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BellaBellucci
03-17-2011, 12:05 AM
When people with power in the porn community say <blank>, it really means <blank>:

you're crazy = you're absolutely right and I'm desperate to discredit you

transvestite = shemale (figure that one out!)

new = new to us

independent model = a pain in the ass that asks too many probing questions

pornstar = whomever we say is famous enough to think they're better than everyone else

latent transitioner = any girl who didn't start transition before she was old enough to do so legally

you're ignorant of the facts = stop exposing the secrets that I use to manipulate people

I'm inclusive and respect everybody = I don't want to alienate people who have nothing to lose because I fear retribution

there is no favoritism = I don't want to alienate people because I need them around as narcissistic supply for my favorites

I want to see you be successful = I want to see you be successful as long as I don't have to help you and you don't cut into my business

I'll help you become successful = I'll help you become successful as long as you either suck my dick (either literally or figuratively), don't cut into my business, or stay around as narcissistic supply for my favorites

we want to capture the natural beauty of our models = we'll either plaster their raw photos all over the internet, or photoshop the hell out of them and just claim them as natural, depending on them model's level of malleability

we support the best in the business = we support those who do what we say and then just market them as 'the best' because they're affiliated with us

you're nobody = we're trying our damnedest to minimize your exposure, see 'you're crazy'

you're in the wrong line of work = it's our way or the highway

we shoot more models than anybody = what was your name again?

we're the biggest = that doesn't make us the best, but, you know...


... please feel free to add yours. I'm sure I'll have more soon.


'I will work to elevate you, just enough to bring you down.' -Tool

rockabilly
03-17-2011, 12:25 AM
ok ... but what does "kiki" and "read" mean?

I can speak Elvish and Klingon and know enough Huttese to order dinner but Tranneze is greek to me.

BellaBellucci
03-17-2011, 12:36 AM
YouTube - Tool - Sober (HD High Definition Music Video) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpWrFxhgtcY)

~BB~

rockabilly
03-17-2011, 12:41 AM
And here i thought you'd post the video for "Stinkfist". :wiggle:

MizRoxxy
03-17-2011, 12:41 AM
ok ... but what does "kiki" and "read" mean?

I can speak Elvish and Klingon and know enough Huttese to order dinner but Tranneze is greek to me.


thats not trans porno lingo.. thats gay lingo..

here you go...
YouTube - Paris is burning La comunidad trans dividida (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpxauPMOHAM)

rockabilly
03-17-2011, 12:47 AM
What about "cakes" that lil Sunshyne loves her cakes ... she must enjoy baking.

Tepres
03-17-2011, 12:51 AM
thats not trans porno lingo.. thats gay lingo..


So does that mean that the trannies who use that lingo are actually gay men?

Just wondering...

rockabilly
03-17-2011, 12:55 AM
So does that mean that the trannies who use that lingo are actually gay men?

Just wondering...

http://tigzy.com/lj/popcorn.gif

south ov da border
03-17-2011, 01:02 AM
that song and video are my fave from tool ...

amberskyi
03-17-2011, 01:16 AM
that song and video are my fave from tool ...

i wanna have maynards baby

BellaBellucci
03-17-2011, 02:46 AM
i wanna have maynards baby

The line forms over there. --->
:whistle:

~BB~

Teabagger Vance
03-17-2011, 05:41 AM
Here's another one:

protect my investment - shut down any criticism about me or my content, no matter how valid it may be.

amberskyi
03-17-2011, 05:55 AM
The line forms over there. --->
:whistle:

~BB~

lol.ive been in the line since middle school

dc_guy_75
03-17-2011, 05:56 AM
By its very nature, the porn industry is shallow and probably populated with scumbags (I know this from reading a David Foster Wallace essay, so it must be true ;).

Consider the Lobster
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/12/books/chapters/0312-1st-wallace.html

serial138
03-17-2011, 11:18 AM
And here I thought Amber only liked black guys. Guess us pale folks do stand a chance.

amberskyi
03-17-2011, 11:45 AM
And here I thought Amber only liked black guys. Guess us pale folks do stand a chance.

lol..only if your strange,a musician and have tatts lol.

Boardwalkempire
03-17-2011, 11:47 AM
lol..only if your strange,a musician and have tatts lol.

Im black.So do i automatically have an advantage?

AmyDaly
03-17-2011, 12:03 PM
Lets be real. These aren't "Trans porn terms" these are "Things people say to bella".
Or things that LOTS Of people say to bella

amberskyi
03-17-2011, 12:04 PM
Im black.So do i automatically have an advantage?

i do love my men of color lol

BellaBellucci
03-17-2011, 06:33 PM
Lets be real. These aren't "Trans porn terms" these are "Things people say to bella".
Or things that LOTS Of people say to bella

Wow. It must have taken you all day to come up with that. :confused:

~BB~

SunshyneMonroe
03-17-2011, 07:10 PM
hides!

dgs925
03-17-2011, 07:20 PM
Lets be real. These aren't "Trans porn terms" these are "Things people say to bella".
Or things that LOTS Of people say to bella
:iagree::iagree:

She got rejected from porn, and has been sore about it ever since. Geeze Bella, just get a regular job like the rest of us.

bte
03-17-2011, 07:28 PM
What about "cakes" that lil Sunshyne loves her cakes ... she must enjoy baking.

Cake is a lie

bte
03-17-2011, 07:29 PM
Im black.So do i automatically have an advantage?

You're black? Wow, didn't see that.

MrsKellyPierce
03-17-2011, 07:31 PM
lmao

Odelay
03-17-2011, 07:39 PM
By its very nature, the porn industry is shallow and probably populated with scumbags (I know this from reading a David Foster Wallace essay, so it must be true ;).

Consider the Lobster
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/12/books/chapters/0312-1st-wallace.html

Thanks for the link. I'm in the middle of DFW's Oblivion right now, my first read of this author.

BellaBellucci
03-18-2011, 01:48 AM
:iagree::iagree:

She got rejected from porn, and has been sore about it ever since. Geeze Bella, just get a regular job like the rest of us.

You're funny. I wasn't rejected from porn - Seanchai and me got into it after I called him on his and his peoples' sleazy, exploitative, passive aggressive bullshit that was used to attract me to them (and other girls) in the first place. Most of the statements in the list don't even have anything to do with me, so even if you were right, your statements would have no bearing on the fact that I'm speaking the truth.

But you guys keep plugging away with that bullshit line because neither you nor Amy have directly responded to a single thing I actually said. I don't think anybody here is surprised by that and that stock response of yours is really getting played out. :geek: :lol:

~BB~

PS: Is that you in your avatar? :dancing:

phobun
03-18-2011, 05:03 AM
"male talent" = Tom Moore

BellaBellucci
03-18-2011, 05:24 AM
"male talent" = Tom Moore

http://instantrimshot.com/

~BB~

AmyDaly
03-18-2011, 05:26 AM
neither you nor Amy have directly responded to a single thing I actually said. I don't think anybody here is surprised by that and that stock response of yours is really getting played out. :geek: :lol:

~BB~

PS: Is that you in your avatar? :dancing:

There is no point in debating any of this crap. You have the "I am always right" mentality. If anyone doesn't agree with you, they must be part of the conspiracy. Its like debating god with religious people. You can lay down all the facts as they are or point out the lack of them, but it will never matter. They will still believe in made up faerie tales. They will even make new shit up if they have to in order to protect their beliefs. They have to. Because if they ever do realize the reality, their world will crumble. So have at it lol. Everyone knows you are crazy :wiggle:

phobun
03-18-2011, 05:51 AM
They will still believe in made up faerie tales.


Faerie tales about faerie tails

BellaBellucci
03-18-2011, 06:38 AM
There is no point in debating any of this crap. You have the "I am always right" mentality. If anyone doesn't agree with you, they must be part of the conspiracy. Its like debating god with religious people. You can lay down all the facts as they are or point out the lack of them, but it will never matter. They will still believe in made up faerie tales. They will even make new shit up if they have to in order to protect their beliefs. They have to. Because if they ever do realize the reality, their world will crumble. So have at it lol. Everyone knows you are crazy :wiggle:



Nobody said a word about 'conspiracy.' That's always been your word. See the first entry in the OP again if you don't understand how you keep proving my point by continuing to do that about which I complain with little or no provocation. :geek:

But yeah, another failed attempt at deflection by Seanchai's 'willing hell hound.'

'There is no Amy, only Zuul.'

YouTube - i want to talk to dana (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnTCajL7I_U)

~BB~

theone1982
03-18-2011, 06:44 AM
Nobody said a word about 'conspiracy.' That's always been your word. See the first entry in the OP again if you don't understand how you keep proving my point by continuing to do that about which I complain with little or no provocation. :geek:

But yeah, another failed attempt at deflection by Seanchai's 'willing hell hound.'

'There is no Amy, only Zuul.'

YouTube - i want to talk to dana (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnTCajL7I_U)

~BB~

HA! LOL! That's awesome! The Ghostbusters defense! If you don't know about Ghostbusters, then you must acquit! "Bustin' makes me feel good!":):cheers::claps

BellaBellucci
03-18-2011, 06:49 AM
HA! LOL! That's awesome! The Ghostbusters defense! If you don't know about Ghostbusters, then you must acquit! "Bustin' makes me feel good!":):cheers::claps

*bow* Thank you, thank you.

And what's worse is that some people don't even know they're being controlled. Wake up, Sheeple! They have power. You don't. See? No specific conspiracy is necessary. Like every other business, those at the top stop at nothing to retain their positions of power and there's nothing complicated about it. In this case, the guy at the top has a bunch of people here who work for him who, as such, have no objectivity regarding their parent company. :geek:

~BB~

AmyDaly
03-18-2011, 07:57 AM
*bow* Thank you, thank you.

And what's worse is that some people don't even know they're being controlled. Wake up, Sheeple! They have power. You don't. See? No specific conspiracy is necessary. Like every other business, those at the top stop at nothing to retain their positions of power and there's nothing complicated about it. In this case, the guy at the top has a bunch of people here who work for him who, as such, have no objectivity regarding their parent company. :geek:

~BB~

You use the same lines every time, you beast. Don't agree with Bella? Oh you work for grooby. Grooby has you on their payroll, Grooby this, grooby that. Grooby is out to get me. And yea, just like any other business, you have people at the who think everyone else owes them something, and people who think the man is trying to hold them down. Cry more about it. Nobody is caring or even reading all of what you post lol

BellaBellucci
03-18-2011, 08:19 AM
You use the same lines every time, you beast. Don't agree with Bella? Oh you work for grooby. Grooby has you on their payroll, Grooby this, grooby that. Grooby is out to get me. And yea, just like any other business, you have people at the who think everyone else owes them something, and people who think the man is trying to hold them down. Cry more about it. Nobody is caring or even reading all of what you post lol

Keep talking Groobster. Keep proving me right. :)

~BB~

AmyDaly
03-18-2011, 10:21 AM
Keep talking Groobster. Keep proving me right. :)

~BB~
Keep telling yourself that, Aunt Sally ; )

BellaBellucci
03-18-2011, 11:31 AM
'Aunt Sally,' you say? OK then. Here's a reworked list. I've removed any of the translations for phrases that have been spoken to me personally:

transvestite = shemale (figure that one out!)

new = new to us

independent model = a pain in the ass that asks too many probing questions

pornstar = whomever we say is famous enough to think they're better than everyone else

I'm inclusive and respect everybody = I don't want to alienate people who have nothing to lose because I fear retribution

there is no favoritism = I don't want to alienate people because I need them around as narcissistic supply for my favorites

I want to see you be successful = I want to see you be successful as long as I don't have to help you and you don't cut into my business

I'll help you become successful = I'll help you become successful as long as you either suck my dick (either literally or figuratively), don't cut into my business, or stay around as narcissistic supply for my favorites

we support the best in the business = we support those who do what we say and then just market them as 'the best' because they're affiliated with us

we shoot more models than anybody = what was your name again?

we're the biggest = that doesn't make us the best, but, you know...

protect my investment - shut down any criticism about me or my content, no matter how valid it may be.

Still a pretty good sized list, isn't is Zuulie? Keep on shillin' lady! :)

~BB~

BellaBellucci
03-21-2011, 02:02 AM
YouTube - Living Colour - Cult Of Personality (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xxgRUyzgs0)

~BB~

rockabilly
03-21-2011, 02:20 AM
Um yeahhh ... Ok.

http://smilies.popolz.com/smilies/LUMBERG1.JPG

lol

BellaBellucci
03-21-2011, 02:30 AM
Um yeahhh ... Ok.

http://smilies.popolz.com/smilies/LUMBERG1.JPG

lol

Wow. This thread must have really struck a nerve. Hey, don't shoot the messenger! :lol:

http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showpost.php?p=900316&postcount=11

~BB~

theone1982
03-21-2011, 02:34 AM
YouTube - Living Colour - Cult Of Personality (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7xxgRUyzgs0)

~BB~

Great song! But they never had another hit.:confused: This song is due for a cover version.:dancing:

rockabilly
03-21-2011, 02:40 AM
lol nah Bella but it does seem like you enjoy poking the Grooby Bee's Nest a bit too much.

I get where you're coming from Bella , you were displeased w/ your shoot and felt undermarketed or underexposed and that the end product did not reflect you as a model/performer.

And you don't like the business model that Grooby has etc.

BellaBellucci
03-21-2011, 02:44 AM
lol nah Bella but it does seem like you enjoy poking the Grooby Bee's Nest a bit too much.

I get where you're coming from Bella , you were displeased w/ your shoot and felt undermarketed or underexposed and that the end product did not reflect you as a model/performer.

And you don't like the business model that Grooby has etc.

Well lucky for you, you're not the target audience of this thread. Models are. So do you plan on transitioning? Yes? Well that's great. I only shoot established transsexuals, but you could always throw on a wig and a dress and shoot with Yum. :lol:

~BB~

Infern0
03-21-2011, 02:47 AM
Well lucky for you, you're not the target audience of this thread. Models are. So do you plan on transitioning? Yes? Well that's great. I only shoot established transsexuals, but you could always throw on a wig and a dress and shoot with Yum. :lol:

~BB~

Whats the deal with Yum lol, is it disgraceful or something?

rockabilly
03-21-2011, 02:49 AM
But Grooby has been in business for awhile now and their business model works for them.

If you want to prove Grooby wrong then make yourself a success ... do your own shoots , site , movies indie style ... carve out your own niche and work it. :)

But constantly picking at them will only alienate you Bella , I like you ok ... I get along w/ almost everyone .

Oh and i think there's a glitch w/ Grooby's payroll ... my check hasn't arrived yet. :?:

BellaBellucci
03-21-2011, 02:52 AM
Whats the deal with Yum lol, is it disgraceful or something?

It has low standards and production values and is based on a quantity over quality mentality, much like Wal-Mart. They provide very little support to their beginning models yet use 'friendship' as a recruitment tool. Not to mention everything else on the list. Thanks for asking.

http://bradley.chattablogs.com/evilempire2.jpg

~BB~

rockabilly
03-21-2011, 02:56 AM
Well lucky for you, you're not the target audience of this thread. Models are. So do you plan on transitioning? Yes? Well that's great. I only shoot established transsexuals, but you could always throw on a wig and a dress and shoot with Yum. :lol:

~BB~

No need to get snooty.

And how do you plan on paying these established models?

Do you have camera equipment and a photographer stashed away?

lol

BellaBellucci
03-21-2011, 03:00 AM
No need to get snooty.

And how do you plan on paying these established models?

Do you have camera equipment and a photographer stashed away?

lol

I'm not going to be baited into laying out my entire business plan in public, but suffice it to say I won't be paying models. Instead I'll be setting them up with their own websites and helping them to develop their own businesses which will provide more choice for the consumer and more income opportunities for the model.

I will be foregoing recurring profit from this venture and making it up in other ways, unlike any other producers out there. Oh, and I'm a photographer now. Have you been paying attention these past 2 years? :geek:

~BB~

rockabilly
03-21-2011, 03:07 AM
I'm not going to baited into laying out my entire business plan in public, but suffice it to say I won't be paying models. Instead I'll be setting them up with their own websites and helping them to develop their own businesses which will provide more choice for the consumer and more income opportunities for the model.



Curses foiled again!!

And everyone knows i'm a "master baiter" but you wouldn't bite.

I wish you success Bella.

BellaBellucci
03-21-2011, 03:13 AM
I wish you success Bella.

You don't mean that. You've been suspect in my eyes since you started carrying Amy's banner like an electronic man purse.

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_7mbKVw2PFrQ/THGVPsb_47I/AAAAAAAABKs/yNlU7RCQHC8/s1600/manpurse.jpg

Ghey.

~BB~

rockabilly
03-21-2011, 03:18 AM
Think whatever you want Bella but i've always been honest on this forum and i'm sincere when i say that I wish you success not just in the industry but as a woman in general.






and it's a european shoulder satchel not a purse :p

BellaBellucci
03-21-2011, 03:22 AM
I wish you success not just in the industry but as a woman in general.

Jeezus! What's that supposed to mean?! I don't have any problems in that regard thank you very much! :lol: :lol: :lol:

~BB~

Jericho
03-21-2011, 03:29 AM
Wait, whut?
Billy's a tranny?

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_n-hm9gvEHbk/Shm88JwzgaI/AAAAAAAAEN0/QoUgJbeqZek/s400/divine1.jpg

:hide-1:

theone1982
03-21-2011, 03:31 AM
Wait, whut?
Billy's a tranny?

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_n-hm9gvEHbk/Shm88JwzgaI/AAAAAAAAEN0/QoUgJbeqZek/s400/divine1.jpg

:hide-1:

Good lord! *choke*:)

BellaBellucci
03-21-2011, 03:31 AM
Wait, whut?
Billy's a tranny?

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_n-hm9gvEHbk/Shm88JwzgaI/AAAAAAAAEN0/QoUgJbeqZek/s400/divine1.jpg

:hide-1:

Chris Farley was John Candy's comedic house boy.

YouTube - Uncle Buck School (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0awf7TkByM&feature=related)

~BB~

rockabilly
03-21-2011, 03:37 AM
Statistically women earn less than men right?

And i didn't mean to offend the all mighty Belladiva. lol

AmyDaly
03-21-2011, 03:49 AM
So you plan on working with girls who don't know any better, by shooting them for your site which will give no exposure, and instead of paying them you will be setting them up with sites that look just as great and professional as yours? Sounds like a great deal!

BellaBellucci
03-21-2011, 03:53 AM
So you plan on working with girls who don't know any better, by shooting them for your site which will give no exposure, and instead of paying them you will be setting them up with sites that look just as great and professional as yours? Sounds like a great deal!

It's a lot more complicated than that. Now who doesn't know what she's talking about?

Oh, and my site's not done yet. Are you illiterate or blind? :geek:

~BB~

AmyDaly
03-21-2011, 04:05 AM
It's a lot more complicated than that. Now who doesn't know what she's talking about?

Oh, and my site's not done yet. Are you illiterate or blind? :geek:

~BB~
Sounds pretty simple to me. You boost your content by using girls who don't know any better and set them up with a shit web site.

You plan on taking advantage and exploiting girls for your own benefits. Because I think we all know that you can't help any girl get into this business. You have 0 connections because you are crazy and nobody wants to work with you. Your site so far looks like it was made in the 90's, so you are going to offer 0 exposure. You are going to pay them $0. What benefit are they going to get over shooting with a site that will pay them? Oh you will set them up with a site that looks just like yours... You could make a wordpress site that looks better much faster that would get them better exposure because atleast they could get some decent seo from it.

So lets say you are semi-successful into conning 10-15 different girls to shoot with you. You really have the time to manage 15 sites in which they will have updates and billing and promos that you have to manage? Or what? You going to set them up with a shit site and hand it over to them and say here you go!

rockabilly
03-21-2011, 04:08 AM
Bella's business model is long term.

It seems simple to me
1. Get new girls that are hot/cute
2. Put their pics on her site and blog about them
3. Build sites for the girls to do their own content and control what's released
4. When their sites gain members the models keep profits
5. Bella makes money off banners , affiliate codes etc.
6. Bella makes money throwing meet and greet events

:shrug:

Bella is the Moriarty of the trans community. I tip my hat to you Belladiva.

BellaBellucci
03-21-2011, 04:12 AM
Sounds pretty simple to me. You boost your content by using girls who don't know any better and set them up with a shit web site.

You plan on taking advantage and exploiting girls for your own benefits. Because I think we all know that you can't help any girl get into this business. You have 0 connections because you are crazy and nobody wants to work with you. You site so far looks like it was made in the 90's, so you are going to offer 0 exposure. You are going to pay them $0. What benefit are they going to get over shooting with a site that will pay them? Oh you will set them up with a site that looks just like yours... You could make a wordpress site that looks better much faster that would get them better exposure because atleast they could get some decent seo from it.

So lets say you are semi-successful into conning 10-15 different girls to shoot with you. You really have the time to manage 15 sites in which they will have updates and billing and promos that you have to manage? Or what? You going to set them up with a shit site and hand it over to them and say here you go!

What's the matter Amy? Are you jealous that I have production skills and you're just a mediocre model? Really you're no better or worse than I am in that regard. :geek:

As far as what I offer the models, that will be decided on a case-by-case basis depending on the need. I'm also not the only one who will be working on these projects, so please stop posting until you know what you're talking about.

You complain all the time that I don't have enough involvement in the day-to-day operations of porn to be commenting on things, but truth be told, you have -ZERO- involvement in the day-to-day operations of me.

Prospective models, photographers, and web designers can check out Sarahbella Media (http://sarahbellamedia.com) for more information on my new co-operative concept in porn production.

~BB~

BellaBellucci
03-21-2011, 04:14 AM
Bella's business model is long term.

It seems simple to me
1. Get new girls that are hot/cute
2. Put their pics on her site and blog about them
3. Build sites for the girls to do their own content and control what's released
4. When their sites gain members the models keep profits
5. Bella makes money off banners , affiliate codes etc.
6. Bella makes money throwing meet and greet events

:shrug:

Bella is the Moriarty of the trans community. I tip my hat to you Belladiva.

Actually, that's close, but incomplete. And that's all you're getting out of me. :lol:

Besides, most of the argeements I make with models will be personalized to their needs. They won't pay for any services they don't use, which is quite the opposite of what Amy's talking about. The name of the concept is Co-op Production and I'll be talking more about it in the coming months.

~BB~

BBaggins06
03-21-2011, 04:15 AM
Chris Farley was John Candy's comedic house boy.

~BB~

That's funny. Mainly because Candy was John Belushi's comedic cabana boy.

BellaBellucci
03-21-2011, 04:16 AM
That's funny. Mainly because Candy was John Belushi's comedic cabana boy.

Touche! :Bowdown:

YouTube - Three Orange Whips (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRp8GrXffhA)

YouTube - Blues Brothers Feast (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mi7nLBNdMKU&NR=1)

~BB~

theone1982
03-21-2011, 04:21 AM
Why not go with the Underpants Gnomes business plan: Phase 1: Collect Underpants
Phase 2: ?
Phase 3: Profit
:)

theone1982
03-21-2011, 04:22 AM
:) Like This.:)

AmyDaly
03-21-2011, 04:25 AM
Bella's business model is long term.

It seems simple to me
1. Get new girls that are hot/cute
2. Put their pics on her site and blog about them
3. Build sites for the girls to do their own content and control what's released
4. When their sites gain members the models keep profits
5. Bella makes money off banners , affiliate codes etc.
6. Bella makes money throwing meet and greet events

:shrug:

Bella is the Moriarty of the trans community. I tip my hat to you Belladiva.


Its pipe dreams, billy. She doesn't have the means or the know how to do it. Look at her site and then look at a a site from SMC or Grooby or Even a indy site like Liberty or Delia. They don't even compare. There is much more work that goes into running a site than throwing together a quick site and handing it over to a model to manage.

BellaBellucci
03-21-2011, 04:28 AM
Its pipe dreams, billy. She doesn't have the means or the know how to do it. Look at her site and then look at a a site from SMC or Grooby or Even a indy site like Liberty or Delia. They don't even compare. There is much more work that goes into running a site than throwing together a quick site and handing it over to a model to manage.

Putting words in my mouth and speaking ill of a site that's still in production isn't going to stop me from helping independent models to decentralize the industry. Again, you know not of what you speak and have no objectivity regardless. :geek:

~BB~

AmyDaly
03-21-2011, 04:30 AM
Actually, that's close, but incomplete. And that's all you're getting out of me. :lol:

Besides, most of the argeements I make with models will be personalized to their needs. They won't pay for any services they don't use, which is quite the opposite of what Amy's talking about. The name of the concept is Co-op Production and I'll be talking more about it in the coming months.

~BB~

Either way. Good luck. You are going to need it. Seeing as how much you like to bad mouth everyone else, I am sure you will have a great reputation.

BellaBellucci
03-21-2011, 04:33 AM
Either way. Good luck. You are going to need it. Seeing as how much you like to bad mouth everyone else, I am sure you will have a great reputation.

I bad mouth people who badmouth me and most people who badmouth me have never even met me. They do it because you Groobies are upset that I want to give models more independence and break up the monopoly that Seanchai seems to have in marketing the niche. Talk about ironic. But like I said, that's Stockholm Syndrome for you.

~BB~

nonnonnon
03-21-2011, 04:46 AM
some say pyramid scheme, I say multi-level marketing

I kid, I kid

AmyDaly
03-21-2011, 04:52 AM
I bad mouth people who badmouth me and most people who badmouth me have never even met me. They do it because you Groobies are upset that I want to give models more independence and break up the monopoly that Seanchai seems to have in marketing the niche. Talk about ironic. But like I said, that's Stockholm Syndrome for you.

~BB~
Do you even know what a monopoly is? I don't really care what other models do. Remember the thread that you started about the future is with indy sites? How many other girls agreed with you? None. And a few of them who are now with SMC even had their own indy sites before that. I just want girls to choose what works best for them. Why don't you want this? You seem to want to push girls into doing what YOU want them to do.

BellaBellucci
03-21-2011, 04:55 AM
Do you even know what a monopoly is? I don't really care what other models do. Remember the thread that you started about the future is with indy sites? How many other girls agreed with you? None. And a few of them who are now with SMC even had their own indy sites before that. I just want girls to choose what works best for them. Why don't you want this? You seem to want to push girls into doing what YOU want them to do.

I'm not pushing anyone to do anything. The whole point of everything I do here is to remind girls that they have choices.

As to the girls who had independent sites, they didn't have a network behind them until they joined one, which is why SMC helped them to become successful... but they just as easily could have started their own co-op just like the one I'm starting. They didn't. I'm doing it. Get over it.

And if it's your argument that I need to be 'in' with Seanchai in order for this venture to be successful, then you're kind of proving my point again, aren't you?

YouTube - Welcome To The Machine - Pink Floyd (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCfVFxRsKQc)

~BB~

JP Ewing
03-21-2011, 04:56 AM
Really? THIS (http://sarahbellamedia.com/?page_id=12) is the quality of photography you are offering? That is what you put up in your Gallery, which as a photographer should be your best work? Wow....

Sorry... I try not to jump in on these things. But after seeing post after post saying that Grooby's quality sucks, and that unless you are one of their solo site models the photograph quality will suck (no one I shoot has a Grooby solo site), so I take a bit of personal offense to this.

AmyDaly
03-21-2011, 04:58 AM
I'm not pushing anyone to do anything. The whole point of everything I do here is to remind girls that they have choices.

~BB~
So you say "You have many choices, but Company A is full of Nazis and Company B is too, so think about that".

Love your sense of business. It seems like its worked for you in porn.

BellaBellucci
03-21-2011, 05:03 AM
Really? THIS (http://sarahbellamedia.com/?page_id=12) is the quality of photography you are offering? That is what you put up in your Gallery, which as a photographer should be your best work? Wow....

Sorry... I try not to jump in on these things. But after seeing post after post saying that Grooby's quality sucks, and that unless you are one of their solo site models the photograph quality will suck (no one I shoot has a Grooby solo site), so I take a bit of personal offense to this.

I stand by my photography, as well as that on Total-TG.com. In fact my work is very popular with both club goers and viewers. Here's a link to the thread (http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=46803&highlight=partypics) for better reference. I shoot in the dark, on the fly, in heels, with smoke and lasers all over the place, and despite all of that I get some pretty epic shots. :geek:

As far as you being offended, my statement is blanket and not intended towards any photog in particular, but overall, yes I think that Yum's quality is poorer than it's competitors, as do many other people who will hopefully speak up in this thread as they have in others. I meant no personal offense and in fact I'm friendly with a few people who work for your company, photogs included, despite my issues with Dear Leader.

~BB~

BellaBellucci
03-21-2011, 05:05 AM
So you say "You have many choices, but Company A is full of Nazis and Company B is too, so think about that".

Love your sense of business. It seems like its worked for you in porn.

Actually, no. You're wrong again. I've been telling models that Yum is still the biggest and they should shoot for the site at least for the exposure. I just don't think that anyone should trust them to have any more business with them beyond that. I don't find them trustworthy and I'm not alone. :geek:

But keep trying to catch me in a 'gotcha moment.' I can do this all nite.

~BB~

AmyDaly
03-21-2011, 05:06 AM
but they just as easily could have started their own co-op just the one I'm starting. They didn't. I'm doing it. Get over it.

And if it's your argument that I need to be 'in' with Seanchai in order for this venture to be successful, then you're kind of proving my point again, aren't you?

~BB~

Obviously you didn't read your own thread when all the girls who previously had indy sites told you exactly why it wouldn't work. You don't need to Lie to try and prove your point. Please quote me on when I said: " need to be 'in' with Seanchai in order for this venture to be successful".

What ever Bella, good luck. Can't wait to see how great these sites look and the established models you put out.

here is a free advertisement for you. Girls, if you want a site developed by Bella, check out one of the designs here: http://kittyfallon.com/

JP Ewing
03-21-2011, 05:10 AM
I stand by my photography, as well as that on Total-TG.com.

If that is what you consider epic shots and high quality club photography.... then it was dumb of me to worry about your opinion.

Thanks!

AmyDaly
03-21-2011, 05:14 AM
Look how obsessed she is:

http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/search.php?searchid=923327
http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/search.php?searchid=923329

She is like Natina and posts about race.

BellaBellucci
03-21-2011, 05:15 AM
Obviously you didn't read your own thread when all the girls who previously had indy sites told you exactly why it wouldn't work. You don't need to Lie to try and prove your point. Please quote me on when I said: " need to be 'in' with Seanchai in order for this venture to be successful".

What ever Bella, good luck. Can't wait to see how great these sites look and the established models you put out.

here is a free advertisement for you. Girls, if you want a site developed by Bella, check out one of the designs here: http://kittyfallon.com/

This is a brand-new concept and I'm still recruiting outside design talent. I do most of the work myself, but not all of it. But again, that doesn't stop you from comparing sites still in production with those that have been running for a year or more. This is an opportunity for girls to get in at the ground level of something they can do long term. Apples and oranges. But you've always debated like a 5-year old so I'm not surprised.

And as far as the girls who told me 'it won't work,' well, you don't know until you try, do you? Of course the terrific thing is if I fail, then no harm no foul because you've set the bar so low. If I succeed, well... :lol:

~BB~

AmyDaly
03-21-2011, 05:19 AM
And as far as the girls who told me 'it won't work,' well, you don't know until you try, do you? Of course the terrific thing is if I fail, then no harm no foul because you've set the bar so low. If I succeed, well... :lol:
~BB~
I set the bar low for what?

BellaBellucci
03-21-2011, 05:20 AM
Look how obsessed she is:

http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/search.php?searchid=923327
http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/search.php?searchid=923329

She is like Natina and posts about race.


you're crazy = you're absolutely right and I'm desperate to discredit you

you're ignorant of the facts = stop exposing the secrets that I use to manipulate people

you're nobody = we're trying our damnedest to minimize your exposure, see 'you're crazy'

you're in the wrong line of work = it's our way or the highway


Keep talking. :dancing:

~BB~

AmyDaly
03-21-2011, 05:30 AM
Thats what I thought. I'm out. I have school tomorrow and have to get tested...shooting another dvd this week. See ya luv <3

theone1982
03-21-2011, 05:37 AM
Can't we all just get along?:):):):):):):):):):)