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natina
02-26-2011, 03:57 AM
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Think of the Whitest person you know: someone with blond hair, blue eyes and almost translucent skin, not a drop of Black ancestry in them. Now think of the darkest person you know: someone richly endowed with traditional African features, not even a drop of White ancestry in their past. Well, guess what? Scientists now trace the origins of both of these people-and of all human beings who have ever walked the face of the earth-to Black Africa, to the region around what is now Ethiopia. As Spencer Wells, the director of National Geographic's massive Genographic Project, puts it: "Our species evolved in Africa, and a subset of Africans left that continent around 50,000 years ago to populate the rest of the world. Our earliest ancestors probably looked very much like modern Africans."
This would have been news to "Bull" Connor and Orval Faubus and countless other racists from our past. It is also news to most of our White
http://www.africandna.com/images/photos/history.jpg

"I was able to trace the family trees of several prominent African Americans deep into slavery, following the paper trail. And then when the paper trail ended, we tested their DNA in an attempt to discover the origins of their mother's line or their father's line on the African continent."
Henry Louis Gates, Jr.
Alphonse Fletcher University Professor, Harvard University Director,
W.E.B. Du Bois Institute for African and African American Research



everyone regardless if you are white ,Spanish ,Mexican or Asian



can traced there origins back to two Ethiopians ,a man and a women.


these two Ethiopians are everyones ancestors


http://www.africandna.com/tests.aspx
http://www.africandna.com/tests.aspx
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http://www.africandna.com/

http://www.africandna.com/history.aspx
http://www.africandna.com/history.aspx
http://www.africandna.com/history.aspx
http://www.africandna.com/history.aspx
http://www.africandna.com/tests.aspx


http://tvtbt.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/henry-gates.jpg


Henry Louis “Skip” Gates, Jr., (born September 16, 1950) is an American (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/United_States) literary critic (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/Literary_criticism), educator, scholar, writer, editor, and public intellectual (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/Public_intellectual). He was the first African American (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/African_American) to receive the Andrew W. Mellon Foundation Fellowship. He has received numerous honorary degrees and awards for his teaching, research, and development of academic institutions to study black culture (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/Black_culture). In 2002, Gates was selected to give the Jefferson Lecture (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/Jefferson_Lecture), in recognition of his "distinguished intellectual achievement in the humanities."
As the host of the 2006 and 2008 PBS (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/PBS) television miniseries African American Lives (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/African_American_Lives), Gates explored the genealogy of prominent African Americans. Gates sits on the boards of many notable arts, cultural, and research institutions. He serves as the Alphonse Fletcher (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/Alphonse_Fletcher) University Professor (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/Harvard_University_Professor) at Harvard University (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/Harvard_University), where he is director of the W. E. B. Du Bois Institute for African and African American Research. (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/W._E._B._Du_Bois_Institute)


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natina
02-26-2011, 04:24 AM
Spencer Wells - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia@@AMEPARAM@@/wiki/File:Spencer_Wells_2007.jpg" class="image" title="Spencer Wells at the TEDGlobal conference in Arusha, Tanzania in 2007"><img alt="" src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b7/Spencer_Wells_2007.jpg/225px-Spencer_Wells_2007.jpg"@@AMEPARAM@@commons/thumb/b/b7/Spencer_Wells_2007.jpg/225px-Spencer_Wells_2007.jpg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spencer_Wells)

Spencer Wells (born April 6, 1969 in Georgia, United States (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/Georgia,_United_States)) is a geneticist (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/Geneticist) and anthropologist (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/Anthropologist), an Explorer-in-Residence (http://www.nationalgeographic.com/explorers-program/eir/) at the National Geographic Society (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/National_Geographic_Society), and Frank H.T. Rhodes (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/Frank_H.T._Rhodes) Class of '56 Professor at Cornell University (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/Cornell_University). He leads The Genographic Project (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/The_Genographic_Project)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b7/Spencer_Wells_2007.jpg/225px-Spencer_Wells_2007.jpg

natina
03-08-2011, 12:03 PM
trace your DNA

russtafa
03-08-2011, 12:35 PM
I thought the whitest person was in hellboy 2

lisaparadise
03-08-2011, 02:11 PM
Speculation only much like god its wrong period.the only thing thats makes any kind of sence is were from another planet put here for observation purposes only.

natina
03-08-2011, 02:28 PM
everyone is related to everyone

does not matter what race or skin color etc.


Think of the Whitest person you know:Now think of the darkest person you know:
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Think of the Whitest person you know: someone with blond hair, blue eyes and almost translucent skin, not a drop of Black ancestry in them. Now think of the darkest person you know: someone richly endowed with traditional African features, not even a drop of White ancestry in their past. Well, guess what? Scientists now trace the origins of both of these people-and of all human beings who have ever walked the face of the earth-to Black Africa, to the region around what is now Ethiopia. As Spencer Wells, the director of National Geographic's massive Genographic Project, puts it: "Our species evolved in Africa, and a subset of Africans left that continent around 50,000 years ago to populate the rest of the world. Our earliest ancestors probably looked very much like modern Africans."
This would have been news to "Bull" Connor and Orval Faubus and countless other racists from our past. It is also news to most of our White
http://www.africandna.com/images/photos/history.jpg

"I was able to trace the family trees of several prominent African Americans deep into slavery, following the paper trail. And then when the paper trail ended, we tested their DNA in an attempt to discover the origins of their mother's line or their father's line on the African continent."
Henry Louis Gates, Jr.
Alphonse Fletcher University Professor, Harvard University Director,
W.E.B. Du Bois Institute for African and African American Research



everyone regardless if you are white ,Spanish ,Mexican or Asian


can traced there origins back to two Ethiopians ,a man and a women.

these two Ethiopians are everyones ancestors

iamdrgonzo
03-08-2011, 02:47 PM
everyone is related to everyone

One big disfunctional family

Nowhere
03-08-2011, 03:39 PM
Yeah, if you ever do DNA research, this becomes pretty obvious. We were ALL originally black, roughly 12-50,000 years ago. Every single human being. Anyway, everyone's f*cking everyone, as we naturally do, so the whole "race" thing will be a joke in like 50 years. It would be a joke even quicker if it didn't take 21 years to raise a kid...

You know what really blows my mind, though, is that people don't just google photos of Ethiopians. It's 2011 people, and it's SO obvious...

YouTube - BEAUTIFUL ETHIOPIAN WOMEN (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTJa17g2ank)

CORVETTEDUDE
03-08-2011, 03:40 PM
Wutchu tawkin' 'bout...Willis???!!!:loser:

Merkurie
03-08-2011, 08:22 PM
The future of humankind is to look like the people of the Mediterranean Sea. From Portugal around the coast through Italy, Greece, the Balkens, Turkey, Egypt, Lybia and on to Morroco. Its the melting pot of the human family.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d8/Mediterranean_Sea_political_map-en.svg/500px-Mediterranean_Sea_political_map-en.svg.png

Dino Velvet
03-08-2011, 09:50 PM
The future of humankind is to look like the people of the Mediterranean Sea. From Portugal around the coast through Italy, Greece, the Balkens, Turkey, Egypt, Lybia and on to Morroco. Its the melting pot of the human family.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d8/Mediterranean_Sea_political_map-en.svg/500px-Mediterranean_Sea_political_map-en.svg.png

If everyone looked the same things would get pretty boring. I like different types of women because they look different. Sometimes I'm in the mood for White like me but I also lust after Asian and Latin women.

BLKGSXR
03-08-2011, 09:59 PM
Whitest person in LA is Willie Escalade lol.

Merkurie
03-08-2011, 10:28 PM
Wayne Brady

natina
03-08-2011, 10:31 PM
http://wn.com/African_Women__Ethiopian
http://wn.com/African_Women__Ethiopian
http://wn.com/African_Women__Ethiopian
http://wn.com/African_Women__Ethiopian


YouTube - Ethiopian Women - The Most Beautiful & Sexy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fviOSc4zIbE)


http://www.africandna.com/history.aspx
http://www.africandna.com/history.aspx
http://www.africandna.com/history.aspx
http://www.africandna.com/history.aspx

Think of the Whitest person you know: someone with blond hair, blue eyes and almost translucent skin, not a drop of Black ancestry in them. Now think of the darkest person you know: someone richly endowed with traditional African features, not even a drop of White ancestry in their past. Well, guess what? Scientists now trace the origins of both of these people-and of all human beings who have ever walked the face of the earth-to Black Africa, to the region around what is now Ethiopia. As Spencer Wells, the director of National Geographic's massive Genographic Project, puts it: "Our species evolved in Africa, and a subset of Africans left that continent around 50,000 years ago to populate the rest of the world. Our earliest ancestors probably looked very much like modern Africans."
This would have been news to "Bull" Connor and Orval Faubus and countless other racists from our past. It is also news to most of our White
http://www.africandna.com/images/photos/history.jpg

"I was able to trace the family trees of several prominent African Americans deep into slavery, following the paper trail. And then when the paper trail ended, we tested their DNA in an attempt to discover the origins of their mother's line or their father's line on the African continent."
Henry Louis Gates, Jr.
Alphonse Fletcher University Professor, Harvard University Director,
W.E.B. Du Bois Institute for African and African American Research



everyone regardless if you are white ,Spanish ,Mexican or Asian



can traced there origins back to two Ethiopians ,a man and a women.


these two Ethiopians are everyones ancestors


http://www.africandna.com/tests.aspx
http://www.africandna.com/tests.aspx
http://www.africandna.com/tests.aspx

http://www.africandna.com/

http://www.africandna.com/history.aspx
http://www.africandna.com/history.aspx
http://www.africandna.com/history.aspx
http://www.africandna.com/history.aspx
http://www.africandna.com/tests.aspx


http://tvtbt.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/henry-gates.jpg


Henry Louis “Skip” Gates, Jr., (born September 16, 1950) is an American (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/United_States) literary critic (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/Literary_criticism), educator, scholar, writer, editor, and public intellectual (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/Public_intellectual). He was the first African American (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/African_American) to receive the Andrew W. Mellon Foundation Fellowship. He has received numerous honorary degrees and awards for his teaching, research, and development of academic institutions to study black culture (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/Black_culture). In 2002, Gates was selected to give the Jefferson Lecture (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/Jefferson_Lecture), in recognition of his "distinguished intellectual achievement in the humanities."
As the host of the 2006 and 2008 PBS (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/PBS) television miniseries African American Lives (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/African_American_Lives), Gates explored the genealogy of prominent African Americans. Gates sits on the boards of many notable arts, cultural, and research institutions. He serves as the Alphonse Fletcher (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/Alphonse_Fletcher) University Professor (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/Harvard_University_Professor) at Harvard University (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/Harvard_University), where he is director of the W. E. B. Du Bois Institute for African and African American Research. (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/W._E._B._Du_Bois_Institute)


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Spencer Wells - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia@@AMEPARAM@@/wiki/File:Spencer_Wells_2007.jpg" class="image" title="Spencer Wells at the TEDGlobal conference in Arusha, Tanzania in 2007"><img alt="" src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b7/Spencer_Wells_2007.jpg/225px-Spencer_Wells_2007.jpg"@@AMEPARAM@@commons/thumb/b/b7/Spencer_Wells_2007.jpg/225px-Spencer_Wells_2007.jpg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spencer_Wells)

Spencer Wells (born April 6, 1969 in Georgia, United States (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/Georgia,_United_States)) is a geneticist (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/Geneticist) and anthropologist (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/Anthropologist), an Explorer-in-Residence (http://www.nationalgeographic.com/explorers-program/eir/) at the National Geographic Society (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/National_Geographic_Society), and Frank H.T. Rhodes (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/Frank_H.T._Rhodes) Class of '56 Professor at Cornell University (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/Cornell_University). He leads The Genographic Project (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/The_Genographic_Project)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b7/Spencer_Wells_2007.jpg/225px-Spencer_Wells_2007.jpg

Merkurie
03-08-2011, 10:33 PM
It would be a shame to think of a world without someone like her around:
http://abagond.files.wordpress.com/2008/06/jacob2.jpg

Dino Velvet
03-08-2011, 10:51 PM
This guy takes self-loathing to a new level.

http://edschultzmsnbc.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/black-nazi.jpg

onmyknees
03-09-2011, 02:03 AM
Concise is not a word I'd use to describe your posts Natina....endless you tube links, reference material, etc. It takes an hour to get through it all ! So break it down for me baby....What your point about Gates? I saw the PBS special Gates ( A.K.A. one of the 3 members of the now infamous beer summit) did, and have referenced it on HA several times. If I recall, he traced the genealogy of a dozen or so prominent African Americans back to the 1700's. Almost every one ( including him) had white European ancestors...I believe Oprah was the only "pure African" one in the group. Needless to say Gates was shaken to find out he was a white guy !! LMAO

Merkurie
03-09-2011, 02:33 AM
According to some studies about 17% of white Americans have recent black ancestry.

I believe among non-recent european immigrant whites, the number is far higher.

Jackal
03-09-2011, 02:39 AM
According to some studies about 17% of white Americans have recent black ancestry.

I believe among non-recent european immigrant whites, the number is far higher.


Maybe I cannot think clearly today or something but I am not sure who this applies to...could you give an example?

Merkurie
03-09-2011, 03:02 AM
People who did not come to the states in the 20th century, or people who have US roots prior to the 20th century.

Jackal
03-09-2011, 03:06 AM
OIC, ok.

Jackal
03-09-2011, 03:07 AM
This guy takes self-loathing to a new level.

http://edschultzmsnbc.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/black-nazi.jpg


Would you believe neo-nazism has been growing in popularity in Mongolia?

onmyknees
03-09-2011, 03:12 AM
According to some studies about 17% of white Americans have recent black ancestry.

I believe among non-recent european immigrant whites, the number is far higher.


Huh ???

argentina2007
03-09-2011, 03:13 AM
Stating 'traditional African-Features' is a falsity and an Americanism the Western world need to shed from usage. Half of my family originate in Algeria and are far more towards the 'white' spectrum of genetics/appearance than looking related to anyone of West African descent.
Who has a monopoly over what is African and what isn't anyway?

runningdownthatdream
03-09-2011, 03:39 AM
This guy takes self-loathing to a new level.

http://edschultzmsnbc.files.wordpress.com/2011/01/black-nazi.jpg

Not necessarily so Dino - he looks South Asian which would likely mean he is Hindu and the swastika is a sacred emblem for that religion. As you probably know it was around for thousands of years before it was mis-appropriated by the Nazis after some Europeans became infatuated with the theory that 'Aryans' were responsible for the inventing Sanskrit, writing the Vedas, and generally creating eastern mysticism.

Ben
03-09-2011, 03:47 AM
Spencer Wells - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spencer_Wells)

Spencer Wells (born April 6, 1969 in Georgia, United States (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/Georgia,_United_States)) is a geneticist (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/Geneticist) and anthropologist (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/Anthropologist), an Explorer-in-Residence (http://www.nationalgeographic.com/explorers-program/eir/) at the National Geographic Society (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/National_Geographic_Society), and Frank H.T. Rhodes (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/Frank_H.T._Rhodes) Class of '56 Professor at Cornell University (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/Cornell_University). He leads The Genographic Project (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/The_Genographic_Project)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b7/Spencer_Wells_2007.jpg/225px-Spencer_Wells_2007.jpg


I like Spencer Wells.
Pandora's Seed: The Unforeseen Cost of Civilization is a great book.

Merkurie
03-09-2011, 03:48 AM
Huh ???

Since the 1600s many light complexioned African Americans passed into the "white" mainstream and had descendants. By and large those children did not know of their black heritage and grew up considering themselves to be white.

There are many "whites" today with grandparents and great grandparents who were born "black" and assimilated into "white" america. There are of course, many light complexioned african americans who chose not to pass. But the fact remains that "passing for white" was a large phenomenon in the late 19th and early 20th century.

argentina2007
03-09-2011, 03:56 AM
Since the 1600s many light complexioned African Americans passed into the "white" mainstream and had descendants. By and large those children did not know of their black heritage and grew up considering themselves to be white.

There are many "whites" today with grandparents and great grandparents who were born "black" and assimilated into "white" america. There are of course, many light complexioned african americans who chose not to pass. But the fact remains that "passing for white" was a large phenomenon in the late 19th and early 20th century.
What do you define as African American? West African? Or descendants of the entire continent?

Merkurie
03-09-2011, 04:19 AM
The descendants of human beings, primarily West Africans, brought to the New World as slaves between 1620 and 1818.

Dino Velvet
03-09-2011, 04:22 AM
Not necessarily so Dino - he looks South Asian which would likely mean he is Hindu and the swastika is a sacred emblem for that religion. As you probably know it was around for thousands of years before it was mis-appropriated by the Nazis after some Europeans became infatuated with the theory that 'Aryans' were responsible for the inventing Sanskrit, writing the Vedas, and generally creating eastern mysticism.

I know the Swastika used to be some sort of good luck symbol but his shirt has the red background and looks exactly like the old NAZI Flag.

Check out this Japanese Wrestling poster.

Jackal
03-09-2011, 04:25 AM
Not necessarily so Dino - he looks South Asian which would likely mean he is Hindu and the swastika is a sacred emblem for that religion. As you probably know it was around for thousands of years before it was mis-appropriated by the Nazis after some Europeans became infatuated with the theory that 'Aryans' were responsible for the inventing Sanskrit, writing the Vedas, and generally creating eastern mysticism.


but the slant on the swatsika and outlined color makes one consider it is representing Nazi Germany, not Indian, Hindu, Buddhist or Jain culture. I've seen this pic on other sites too

Dino Velvet
03-09-2011, 04:28 AM
but the slant on the swatsika and outlined color makes one consider it is representing Nazi Germany, not Indian, Hindu, Buddhist or Jain culture. I've seen this pic on other sites too

You might be right. I hope he leaves that shirt at home if he visits America. Some people might poke a little fun... or worse.

Merkurie
03-09-2011, 04:29 AM
He looks like a clueless fool to me.

Dino Velvet
03-09-2011, 04:33 AM
Maybe Wayne Grow from Heat wasn't such a bad guy after all. Remember the scene where he kills the young black hooker and the look on her face after she caught a gander at his ink?

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/lZ6seEP9T6c/0.jpg
"It's OK, darlin'! I'm Asian and this means good luck!"

Jackal
03-09-2011, 04:43 AM
You might be right. I hope he leaves that shirt at home if he visits America. Some people might poke a little fun... or worse.


One thing I noticed is that countries where English is not a primary language, although India does have many English speakers, nonsensical or offensive language is often featured on tshirts or signs, perhaps just for the design of the English alphabet/words. For example, I saw tshirts in japan that said "Happy Drug Store Time Clock." maybe this guy is really clueless or he is sympathetic or thinks this symbol is close enough to the swastikas in Asian cultures

runningdownthatdream
03-09-2011, 04:50 AM
but the slant on the swatsika and outlined color makes one consider it is representing Nazi Germany, not Indian, Hindu, Buddhist or Jain culture. I've seen this pic on other sites too

he may also be just another of those smug types who will wear a Che Guevara t-shirt they bought at some pompous over-priced department store and think they're making a statement supporting revolution!

onmyknees
03-09-2011, 05:18 AM
[QUOTE=Dino Velvet;893830]Maybe Wayne Grow from Heat wasn't such a bad guy after all. Remember the scene where he kills the young black hooker and the look on her face after she caught a gander at his ink?
Love the Wayne Grow referrence Dino...Classic

natina
03-09-2011, 05:56 AM
remember the movie

imitation of life


http://www.epinions.com/review/Celia_a_Slave_by_Melton_A_McLaurin/content_67579842180
http://www.epinions.com/review/Celia_a_Slave_by_Melton_A_McLaurin/content_67579842180
http://www.epinions.com/review/Celia_a_Slave_by_Melton_A_McLaurin/content_67579842180
http://www.epinions.com/review/Celia_a_Slave_by_Melton_A_McLaurin/content_67579842180


IF YOU TAKE AFRICAN AMERICAN HISTORY

you will find out that

1.)blacks where invisible
no records kept of family or family tree,family separated.

2.)blacks where nameless with a few exceptions of those who escaped and fought against slavery like FREDERICK DOUGLAS


3.)BLACKS WERE NOT CONSIDERED A PERSON


4.)slave women often father children by slave masters
and so many african americans are concidered to be MULATTOS
THEY WERE RAPED AND THE WHITE WIFE WAS POWERLESS ALTHOUGHT THEY HAD ISSUES WITH IT
YOU CAN NOT RAPE A SLAVE GIRL IF YOU ARE A MASTER.

5.)slaves were considered to be CHATTEL
like live stock

and so much more disturbing facts

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51J5WHBJ09L._BO2,204,203,200_PIsitb-sticker-arrow-click,TopRight,35,-76_AA300_SH20_OU01_.jpg



The said book and what you quoted is very deep and moving. I thought they had 'black history month' in all schools in the US or is it only certain states? do the schools that feed the ivy league teaches it? So they gloss over what happened and only focus on roots which is pure fiction? what about Native American history, isnt it taught in schools because they went throught genocide and denial of basic human rights

One other question. Isnt there is a popular saying: 'I wont be your whipping boy' or 'i wont be your N word' in other words you treat the blacks like that not us? Ist

slave were called chattel and breed

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/chattel


THERE IS A BOOK CALLED

CELIA THE SLAVE

IT DESCRIBES LIFE AS A SLAVE BACK THEN


http://www.epinions.com/review/Celia_a_Slave_by_Melton_A_McLaurin/content_67579842180

this is why African history should be included in American history and taught in the schools in the USA



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McLaurin tells the story of a slave girl named Celia. We only know her as Celia, she has no other name. Robert Newsom, a plantation owner in Callaway, Missouri, purchased her at age 14. Newsom was recently widowed and it seems he purchased Celia with a sexual motive. As he brought her back to the farm, he raped her. From then on, Newsom "visited" Celia often in a cabin he provided for her which was very close to the main household. Over the years, Celia had two children with Newsom, which he considered "his property".

There were four other slaves on the plantation, but they were all men, so it was hard for Celia to confide in anyone. Soon, however, Celia formed a relationship with the slave George. By this time, the girl is 19 years old and is pregnant again. George is aware of what Newsom is doing and gives Celia an ultimatum - either she tell Newsom to leave her alone, or he would leave her.

When Newsom came to her cabin, Celia told him she wouldn't allow him to come anymore. However, Newsom didn't care since HE was HER master. He proceeded to rape her again. However, Celia hit him over the head with a club with intentions to wound him, but it was a fatal blow instead. Thus, the trial of Celia begins.

The rest of the story is history; wonderful history. The author combines a great story with historical facts. This makes the book very interesting. It's not like you're reading a history book, which is just plain facts. This book makes it fun and easy to learn. The information about the trial is factual, but since McLaurin put it in a story-like form, it is very interesting.

This is a great book to read if you are interested in what it was like to be a slave, or even if you need to do some kind of report. The author touches on so many aspects of a slaves' life. Taking place in the 1850's. McLaurin discusses the Dred Scott Case, tensions between bordering states, and regional/national elections. A huge part of this story focuses on the different laws of the time. For example:

-Is a slave 3/5 of a person?
-Does a slave have rights?
-Is a slave considered property?
-Is a slave considered a man or woman?

Celia is assigned lawyers, since a slave isn't allowed to testify in court - Can you believe the ridiculous laws back then? If a slave can't testify, how is he/she supposed to state his/her side of the story?

I don't want to give away all of the details of the trial, but there is one crucial element that I want to discuss a little bit. The issue is discussed of whether Celia is considered a woman. White women had the right to defend themselves against a man who was forcing himself upon her. Celia is a woman, so this law should apply to her as well. After all, she was only defending herself from this man. This discussion was a huge turning point during the trial. The jury and judge had to decide whether or not Celia had this right. It was such a big issue because it would totally change the law around. If she was a woman, she would have this right and it would make slave women more equal with white women. This would, in turn, take away some of the powers of the slave holder. If she did not have this right, things would remain the same and Celia would be hung.

By the end of the book, after much fighting and debating, Celia is pronounced guilty. The story illustrates just how terrible the life of a slave could be. The author put so much into this piece and made it so thorough that you don't just learn about the history while the trial is going on. Instead, he dedicated a couple of chapters to give you some background on the subject and to show the reader what is influencing the judge and jury's decision. (That is the part of the book that gets a little bit boring, because it really isn't in a story format, but just fact after fact on paper). Also, some parts of the book are a little bit hard to understand, this is not an extremely easy reader.

"Celia, A Slave" is a great historical book that is well written and actually fun to read. I really didn't think I would like the book when I first got it, I was actually a little bit hesitant, but it turned out just fine in the end.



Since the 1600s many light complexioned African Americans passed into the "white" mainstream and had descendants. By and large those children did not know of their black heritage and grew up considering themselves to be white.

There are many "whites" today with grandparents and great grandparents who were born "black" and assimilated into "white" america. There are of course, many light complexioned african americans who chose not to pass. But the fact remains that "passing for white" was a large phenomenon in the late 19th and early 20th century.

Dino Velvet
03-09-2011, 06:00 AM
One thing I noticed is that countries where English is not a primary language, although India does have many English speakers, nonsensical or offensive language is often featured on tshirts or signs, perhaps just for the design of the English alphabet/words. For example, I saw tshirts in japan that said "Happy Drug Store Time Clock." maybe this guy is really clueless or he is sympathetic or thinks this symbol is close enough to the swastikas in Asian cultures

Me thinks he went to one of Kelly Shore's Garage Sales and got that shirt.


he may also be just another of those smug types who will wear a Che Guevara t-shirt they bought at some pompous over-priced department store and think they're making a statement supporting revolution!

I walked up to a dude in the gym wearing one of those. He had no idea how bad Che was and ended up being pretty embarassed. Given the choice I'll wear the Swastika shirt since it matches my skin tone so well. That Che shirt isn't even worthy to be used as a cum towel.



Love the Wayne Grow referrence Dino...Classic

Thanks. I'm a big fan of the movie Heat. I thought all the characters were outstanding. Wayne Grow was a badass.

argentina2007
03-09-2011, 06:03 AM
I walked up to a dude in the gym wearing one of those. He had no idea how bad Che was and ended up being pretty embarassed. Given the choice I'll wear the Swastika shirt since it matches my skin tone so well. That Che shirt isn't even worthy to be used as a cum towel.
I've always found it difficult to detect message-board sarcasm, but please tell me you're not being serious?

Merkurie
03-09-2011, 06:05 AM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/67/Carol_Channing.jpg/450px-Carol_Channing.jpg


According to Channing's memoirs, when she left home to attend Bennington College in Vermont, her mother informed her that her father, a journalist who Carol had believed was born in Rhode Island, had in fact been born in Augusta, Georgia, to a German-American father and an African-American mother. According to Channing's account, her mother reportedly did not want [Channing] to be surprised "if she had a black baby".[3][4] Channing kept this a secret to avoid any problems on Broadway and in Hollywood, ultimately revealing it only in her autobiography, Just Lucky I Guess, published in 2002 when she was 81 years old. Channing's autobiography, containing a photograph of her mother, does not have any photos of her father or son.[5] Her book also states that her father's birth certificate was destroyed in a fire.

Hello Dolly!
Just one admitted example.

natina
03-09-2011, 06:06 AM
Six Black Presidents: Black Blood : White Masks USA

Amazon.com: Six Black Presidents: Black Blood : White Masks USA (9781880187005): Auset Bakhufu: Books@@AMEPARAM@@http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41RCtnNo1mL.@@AMEPARAM@@41RCtnNo1mL (http://www.amazon.com/Six-Black-Presidents-Blood-White/dp/1880187000)

Amazon.com: Six Black Presidents: Black Blood : White Masks USA (9781880187005): Auset Bakhufu: Books@@AMEPARAM@@http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41RCtnNo1mL.@@AMEPARAM@@41RCtnNo1mL (http://www.amazon.com/Six-Black-Presidents-Blood-White/dp/1880187000)


the benefits of denying your black ancestry in a movie
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imitation_of_Life_(1959_film)

http://www.bagofnothing.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/200


https://www.diversityinc.com/public/images/sixblackposter.gif

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/5b/Imitation_of_Life_1959_poster.jpg/215px-Imitation_of_Life_1959_poster.jpg
http://www.bagofnothing.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/6thbackpreas1.jpg

One book, "Black People and their Place in World History," by Dr. Leroy Vaughn, even claims that five past presidents — Thomas Jefferson, Andrew Jackson, Abraham Lincoln, Warren Harding and Calvin Coolidge — had black ancestors, which would make Obama the sixth of his kind.

Mix in a few centuries' worth of Central, South and Native Americans, plus Asians, and untold millions of today's U.S. citizens need a DNA test to decipher their true colors. The melting pot is working.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081213/ap_on_re_us/obama_s_not_black

Six Black Presidents: Black Blood : White Masks USA

Amazon.com: Six Black Presidents: Black Blood : White Masks USA (9781880187005): Auset Bakhufu: Books@@AMEPARAM@@http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41RCtnNo1mL.@@AMEPARAM@@41RCtnNo1mL (http://www.amazon.com/Six-Black-Presidents-Blood-White/dp/1880187000)

Amazon.com: Six Black Presidents: Black Blood : White Masks USA (9781880187005): Auset Bakhufu: Books@@AMEPARAM@@http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41RCtnNo1mL.@@AMEPARAM@@41RCtnNo1mL (http://www.amazon.com/Six-Black-Presidents-Blood-White/dp/1880187000)


the benefits of denying your black ancestry in a movie
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imitation_of_Life_(1959_film)

http://www.bagofnothing.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/200

https://www.diversityinc.com/public/images/sixblackposter.gif

http://www.bagofnothing.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/6thbackpreas1.jpg

natina
03-09-2011, 06:06 AM
http://www.africandna.com/history.aspx
http://www.africandna.com/history.aspx
http://www.africandna.com/history.aspx
http://www.africandna.com/history.aspx

Think of the Whitest person you know: someone with blond hair, blue eyes and almost translucent skin, not a drop of Black ancestry in them. Now think of the darkest person you know: someone richly endowed with traditional African features, not even a drop of White ancestry in their past. Well, guess what? Scientists now trace the origins of both of these people-and of all human beings who have ever walked the face of the earth-to Black Africa, to the region around what is now Ethiopia. As Spencer Wells, the director of National Geographic's massive Genographic Project, puts it: "Our species evolved in Africa, and a subset of Africans left that continent around 50,000 years ago to populate the rest of the world. Our earliest ancestors probably looked very much like modern Africans."
This would have been news to "Bull" Connor and Orval Faubus and countless other racists from our past. It is also news to most of our White
http://www.africandna.com/images/photos/history.jpg

"I was able to trace the family trees of several prominent African Americans deep into slavery, following the paper trail. And then when the paper trail ended, we tested their DNA in an attempt to discover the origins of their mother's line or their father's line on the African continent."
Henry Louis Gates, Jr.
Alphonse Fletcher University Professor, Harvard University Director,
W.E.B. Du Bois Institute for African and African American Research



everyone regardless if you are white ,Spanish ,Mexican or Asian



can traced there origins back to two Ethiopians ,a man and a women.


these two Ethiopians are everyones ancestors


http://www.africandna.com/tests.aspx
http://www.africandna.com/tests.aspx
http://www.africandna.com/tests.aspx

http://www.africandna.com/

http://www.africandna.com/history.aspx
http://www.africandna.com/history.aspx
http://www.africandna.com/history.aspx
http://www.africandna.com/history.aspx
http://www.africandna.com/tests.aspx


http://tvtbt.files.wordpress.com/2010/02/henry-gates.jpg


Henry Louis “Skip” Gates, Jr., (born September 16, 1950) is an American (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/United_States) literary critic (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/Literary_criticism), educator, scholar, writer, editor, and public intellectual (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/Public_intellectual). He was the first African American (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/African_American) to receive the Andrew W. Mellon Foundation Fellowship. He has received numerous honorary degrees and awards for his teaching, research, and development of academic institutions to study black culture (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/Black_culture). In 2002, Gates was selected to give the Jefferson Lecture (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/Jefferson_Lecture), in recognition of his "distinguished intellectual achievement in the humanities."
As the host of the 2006 and 2008 PBS (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/PBS) television miniseries African American Lives (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/African_American_Lives), Gates explored the genealogy of prominent African Americans. Gates sits on the boards of many notable arts, cultural, and research institutions. He serves as the Alphonse Fletcher (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/Alphonse_Fletcher) University Professor (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/Harvard_University_Professor) at Harvard University (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/Harvard_University), where he is director of the W. E. B. Du Bois Institute for African and African American Research. (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/W._E._B._Du_Bois_Institute)


http://shadmia.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/henry-louis-gates.gif

Dino Velvet
03-09-2011, 06:07 AM
I've always found it difficult to detect message-board sarcasm, but please tell me you're not being serious?

Joking about the NAZI Shirt.
Serious as a heart attack about the Che blouse.

natina
03-09-2011, 06:08 AM
Spencer Wells - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia@@AMEPARAM@@/wiki/File:Spencer_Wells_2007.jpg" class="image" title="Spencer Wells at the TEDGlobal conference in Arusha, Tanzania in 2007"><img alt="" src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b7/Spencer_Wells_2007.jpg/225px-Spencer_Wells_2007.jpg"@@AMEPARAM@@commons/thumb/b/b7/Spencer_Wells_2007.jpg/225px-Spencer_Wells_2007.jpg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spencer_Wells)

Spencer Wells (born April 6, 1969 in Georgia, United States (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/Georgia,_United_States)) is a geneticist (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/Geneticist) and anthropologist (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/Anthropologist), an Explorer-in-Residence (http://www.nationalgeographic.com/explorers-program/eir/) at the National Geographic Society (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/National_Geographic_Society), and Frank H.T. Rhodes (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/Frank_H.T._Rhodes) Class of '56 Professor at Cornell University (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/Cornell_University). He leads The Genographic Project (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/The_Genographic_Project)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b7/Spencer_Wells_2007.jpg/225px-Spencer_Wells_2007.jpg

natina
03-09-2011, 06:10 AM
one example of many many more

was there the rape that was oh so common?

THE MCCAIN THAT ARE BLACK OR VOTING FOR SEE THE VIDEO I won't spoil it

AFRICAN AMERICAN MCCAIN 'S IN THE FAMILY TREE

http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/?rn=3906861&cl=10343331&ch=4226716&src=news





http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/67/Carol_Channing.jpg/450px-Carol_Channing.jpg


According to Channing's memoirs, when she left home to attend Bennington College in Vermont, her mother informed her that her father, a journalist who Carol had believed was born in Rhode Island, had in fact been born in Augusta, Georgia, to a German-American father and an African-American mother. According to Channing's account, her mother reportedly did not want [Channing] to be surprised "if she had a black baby".[3][4] Channing kept this a secret to avoid any problems on Broadway and in Hollywood, ultimately revealing it only in her autobiography, Just Lucky I Guess, published in 2002 when she was 81 years old. Channing's autobiography, containing a photograph of her mother, does not have any photos of her father or son.[5] Her book also states that her father's birth certificate was destroyed in a fire.

Hello Dolly!
Just one admitted example.

Jackal
03-09-2011, 06:13 AM
remember the movie

imitation of life


http://www.epinions.com/review/Celia_a_Slave_by_Melton_A_McLaurin/content_67579842180
http://www.epinions.com/review/Celia_a_Slave_by_Melton_A_McLaurin/content_67579842180
http://www.epinions.com/review/Celia_a_Slave_by_Melton_A_McLaurin/content_67579842180
http://www.epinions.com/review/Celia_a_Slave_by_Melton_A_McLaurin/content_67579842180


IF YOU TAKE AFRICAN AMERICAN HISTORY

you will find out that

1.)blacks where invisible
no records kept of family or family tree,family separated.

2.)blacks where nameless with a few exceptions of those who escaped and fought against slavery like FREDERICK DOUGLAS


3.)BLACKS WERE NOT CONSIDERED A PERSON


4.)slave women often father children by slave masters
and so many african americans are concidered to be MULATTOS
THEY WERE RAPED AND THE WHITE WIFE WAS POWERLESS ALTHOUGHT THEY HAD ISSUES WITH IT
YOU CAN NOT RAPE A SLAVE GIRL IF YOU ARE A MASTER.

5.)slaves were considered to be CHATTEL
like live stock

and so much more disturbing facts

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51J5WHBJ09L._BO2,204,203,200_PIsitb-sticker-arrow-click,TopRight,35,-76_AA300_SH20_OU01_.jpg


Even though technically fiction, Invisible Man and Autobiography of an Ex-Colored Man are excellent perspectives on the alienation and attempts at dehumanizing African Americans. See the nonfictional and recent Inherently Unequal for historical recounting of legal injustice and its consequence, barbaric medieval lynchings that are beyond horrific.

natina
03-09-2011, 06:19 AM
Did any one watch "Human Family Tree" on Natgeo
Incredible television show that went into the genetic make up of humans and showed how we are all related.

1) We are all Africans...doesnt matter your skin tone, you go back far enough you are from Africa

2) Adam and Eve both were Africans

3) Your ancestry is more jumbled than you can possible imagine

4) RACE is a made up notion it is meant only to divide and conquer. It is fallacy and belief in it is abhorrent.

Must see television for everyone...

natina
03-09-2011, 06:20 AM
your DNA REVEALED
FROM AFRICAN AMERICAN HISTORY THEY ARE MIXED WHICH MAKES THEM BLACK

THIS was surpressed


see the root


OBAMA is not the 1st half black & white president of the USA


I INVITE THEM TO GET THERE DNA TESTED

OBAMA is not the 1st half black/white president of the USA

infact when you think about it obama was not the 1st black president if you say like past America that a drop of African blood makes you black.

THE 1ST PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES AND A FEW MORE WERE HALF BLACK but they could not promote that else they would not get elected or accepted



famous Caucasian people find out there PART BLACK
will this change there attitude?

your DNA REVEALED

http://www.theroot.com/id/44256?videoId=1386375784

http://www.theroot.com/id/44162

Bliss Broyard

Bliss Broyard is the author of My Father, Dancing (1999), a New York Times notable book of the year, and One Drop: My Father's Hidden Life -- A Story of Race & Family Secrets (2007). Her work has been anthologized in Best American Short Stories, The Pushcart Prize Anthology and The Art of the Essay, and she is a frequent contributor to Elle Magazine and The New York Times Book Review. Broyard lives in Brooklyn, New York, with her husband and daughter.


1753 Etienne Broyard, Bliss Broyard's fourth great grandfather, arrives in New Orleans from La Rochelle, France, a white soldier in the French Royal Army. Approximately half of the 3,000 people living in New Orleans at this time are slaves.

1855 Henry Antoine Broyard and Marie Pauline Bonnet, Bliss Broyard's great, great grandparents, marry in 1855. Pauline is a free person of color, and because marriage between blacks and whites is prohibited, Henry lists himself as "FPC," a free person of color, on the marriage license. Marie Pauline's family is among the 10,000 refugees from Saint Domingue, later renamed Haiti, who came to New Orleans after the colony's fight for independence.

1862 Henry Broyard's regiment, the First Louisiana Native Guard Infantry, is the first black regiment in the Union Army to enter the Civil War in September, 1862.

1920 Anatole Broyard is born in 1920. In 1927, Paul and Edna Broyard abandon New Orleans for Brooklyn, N.Y., bringing Anatole and his two sisters with them.

1990 New York Times critic and essayist Anatole Broyard dies of cancer. His wife, Alexandra, tells his daughter Bliss and son Todd that their father is part black, descended from Creoles in New Orleans.
Put Bliss Broyard's life and ancestry in historical context with the Interactive Historical Timeline.

http://www.pbs.org/wnet/aalives/profiles/broyard.html


http://www.diversityinc.com/public/images/black_pres_poster.jpg

natina
03-09-2011, 06:22 AM
by Falrune


Posted: Sun Nov 11, 2007 1:08 am


Race is an old concept that should probably be discarded. It was

created by people who had a very limited knowledge of their world. If you

look at any genetic map (mitochondrial or Y chromosome DNA), you can

see there is no biological basis for the idea of a white or black or asian

race.

Here's a nice map

http://www.bradshawfoundation.com/journey/

Jackal
03-09-2011, 06:29 AM
Adam and Eve? There is no historical or anthropological evidence for such claim.

natina
03-15-2011, 12:59 PM
I highlighted the facts for you,there in bold:iagree::wiggle::dancing:


Think of the Whitest person you know: someone with blond hair, blue eyes and almost translucent skin,

not a drop of Black ancestry in them. Now think of the darkest person you know: someone richly endowed

with traditional African features, not even a drop of White ancestry in their past. Well, guess what?

Scientists now trace the origins of both of these people-and of all human beings who have ever

walked the face of the earth-to Black Africa, to the region around what is now Ethiopia. As

Spencer Wells, the director of National Geographic's massive Genographic Project, puts it: "Our

species evolved in Africa, and a subset of Africans left that continent around 50,000 years ago to

populate the rest of the world. Our earliest ancestors probably looked very much like modern

Africans."

This would have been news to "Bull" Connor and Orval Faubus and countless other racists from our past. It is

also news to most of our



...

natina
03-15-2011, 09:28 PM
http://www.bing.com/getimage?q=FTVS_9b1a32fd6834a14ffe91ca01d2c7a337_2&wf=Genimage


Lisa Kudrow ("Friends") serves as executive producer for this series, based on a popular show in the U.K., in which viewers get a look at the family histories of popular celebrities. Kudrow, Matthew Broderick, Spike Lee, Sarah Jessica Parker, Susan Sarandon, Brooke Shields and Emmitt Smith are among the celebrities whose genealogies are explored


http://www.bing.com/tv/episodes?q=Who+Do+you+think+you+are&seasonnumber=2&description=true&FORM=DTPTVO
http://www.bing.com/tv/episodes?q=Who+Do+you+think+you+are&seasonnumber=2&description=true&FORM=DTPTVO
http://www.bing.com/tv/episodes?q=Who+Do+you+think+you+are&seasonnumber=2&description=true&FORM=DTPTVO
http://www.bing.com/tv/episodes?q=Who+Do+you+think+you+are&seasonnumber=2&description=true&FORM=DTPTVO

natina
03-15-2011, 09:48 PM
Obama is related to

Brad Pitt 22nd cousin

George w bush

Hilary Clinton

john McCain

Winston Churchill

http://specials.msn.com/A-List/Entertainment/Famous-people-ancestry.aspx?cp-documentid=28001887&imageindex=8
http://specials.msn.com/A-List/Entertainment/Famous-people-ancestry.aspx?cp-documentid=28001887&imageindex=8
http://specials.msn.com/A-List/Entertainment/Famous-people-ancestry.aspx?cp-documentid=28001887&imageindex=8
http://specials.msn.com/A-List/Entertainment/Famous-people-ancestry.aspx?cp-documentid=28001887&imageindex=8

http://blstb.msn.com/i/F1/41827FBC1F9FC85D428DA38388B56.jpg

natina
03-15-2011, 09:55 PM
Soledad O'Brien
The CNN reporter's full name, María de la Soledad Teresa O'Brien, offers clues to her heritage. (See photos of her (http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=Soledad+O'Brien&qpvt=Soledad+O'Brien&FORM=msnhal).) She was born in New York to an African-American mom from this island (http://www.bing.com/maps/default.aspx?q=Cuba&mkt=en-US&FORM=msnhal). Her dad? He's of Irish descent and an emigrant from Toowoomba in this country (http://www.bing.com/maps/default.aspx?q=Australia&mkt=en-US&FORM=msnhal).



http://specials.msn.com/A-List/Entertainment/Famous-people-ancestry.aspx?cp-documentid=28001887&imageindex=15&cp-searchtext=Soledad%20O%27Brien&FORM=MSNIIT
http://specials.msn.com/A-List/Entertainment/Famous-people-ancestry.aspx?cp-documentid=28001887&imageindex=15&cp-searchtext=Soledad%20O%27Brien&FORM=MSNIIT
http://specials.msn.com/A-List/Entertainment/Famous-people-ancestry.aspx?cp-documentid=28001887&imageindex=15&cp-searchtext=Soledad%20O%27Brien&FORM=MSNIIT

http://blstb.msn.com/i/AB/DE387F1848175C4CDC1E2DB6A3544.jpg

onmyknees
03-16-2011, 01:33 AM
Adam and Eve? There is no historical or anthropological evidence for such claim.


I'm not sure if Adam and Eve were black or white...maybe they looked like this.....who knows? Who cares? I just jump at the chance to make any biblical referrence to see you and Phobun go into a free fall !!!!! LMAO

Silcc69
03-16-2011, 02:48 AM
I had such a huge crush on Soledad O'Brien back in the late 90's.

rockabilly
03-16-2011, 03:03 AM
You callin me an African Booty Scratcher? :wiggle:

Yvonne183
03-16-2011, 03:17 AM
everyone regardless if you are white ,Spanish ,Mexican or Asian


can traced there origins back to two Ethiopians ,a man and a women.

these two Ethiopians are everyones ancestors


I always wondered about the above,, if this is true, then how does one explain the lack of a diverse gene pool to keep a species alive and evolving. I always thought that for a species to thrive there should be a large enough gene pool for the species survival. I never understood how mankind could come from just two people, to me, the inbreeding should have made us mutants,, unless of course we are mutants.

natina
03-16-2011, 04:03 AM
SPENCER WELLS discusses this in great detail in The Genographic Project (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/The_Genographic_Project)
and in his books and writings/essays


Spencer Wells (born April 6, 1969 in Georgia, United States (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/Georgia,_United_States)) is a geneticist (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/Geneticist) and anthropologist (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/Anthropologist), an Explorer-in-Residence (http://www.nationalgeographic.com/explorers-program/eir/) at the National Geographic Society (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/National_Geographic_Society), and Frank H.T. Rhodes (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/Frank_H.T._Rhodes) Class of '56 Professor at Cornell University (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/Cornell_University). He leads The Genographic Project (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/The_Genographic_Project)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b7/Spencer_Wells_2007.jpg/225px-Spencer_Wells_2007.jpg



everyone regardless if you are white ,Spanish ,Mexican or Asian


can traced there origins back to two Ethiopians ,a man and a women.

these two Ethiopians are everyones ancestors


I always wondered about the above,, if this is true, then how does one explain the lack of a diverse gene pool to keep a species alive and evolving. I always thought that for a species to thrive there should be a large enough gene pool for the species survival. I never understood how mankind could come from just two people, to me, the inbreeding should have made us mutants,, unless of course we are mutants.

natina
03-28-2011, 03:25 AM
http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=55109



“I Am African” Ad Campaign


New “I Am African” Ad Campaign Shows Celebs In Tribal Paint


Richard Gere, Sarah Jessica Parker & Liv Tyler Are Africans


A slew of A-list stars are featured in the new "I Am African" campaign for the nonprofit organization Keep a Child Alive.


The Hollywood heavyweights -- including Richard Gere, Sarah Jessica Parker and Liv Tyler, as well as black Americans Janet Jackson, Alicia Keys and Tyson Beckford, along with Somali-born supermodel Iman, the organization's global ambassador -- are photographed in tribal face paint to more effectively send the message that "each and every one of us contains DNA that can be traced back to our African ancestors



http://www.bvblackspin.com/2011/03/25/richard-gere-sarah-jessica-parker-and-liv-tyler-are-africans/ (http://www.bvblackspin.com/2011/03/25/richard-gere-sarah-jessica-parker-and-liv-tyler-are-africans/)
http://www.bvblackspin.com/2011/03/25/richard-gere-sarah-jessica-parker-and-liv-tyler-are-africans/ (http://www.bvblackspin.com/2011/03/25/richard-gere-sarah-jessica-parker-and-liv-tyler-are-africans/)
http://www.bvblackspin.com/2011/03/25/richard-gere-sarah-jessica-parker-and-liv-tyler-are-africans/ (http://www.bvblackspin.com/2011/03/25/richard-gere-sarah-jessica-parker-and-liv-tyler-are-africans/)
http://www.bvblackspin.com/2011/03/25/richard-gere-sarah-jessica-parker-and-liv-tyler-are-africans/ (http://www.bvblackspin.com/2011/03/25/richard-gere-sarah-jessica-parker-and-liv-tyler-are-africans/)

http://www.blogcdn.com/www.bvblackspin.com/media/2011/03/i-am-african-450pk032511.jpg

plankton
03-28-2011, 04:01 AM
Read about the multi-regional theory.

natina
03-28-2011, 04:36 AM
THE PROBLEM WITH THAT THEORY
is that all land was once one big piece of land then it broke up into the different countries we have today.
there is more evidence of how the people became yellow ,whiter, straighter hair etc.:iagree::geek:


plus every time someones DNA IS CHECKED USING THE STATE OF THE ART TECHNOLOGY THERE DNA IS TRACED BACK TO THESE TWO ETHIOPIANS IN BORN AFRICAN


Spencer Wells - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia@@AMEPARAM@@/wiki/File:Spencer_Wells_2007.jpg" class="image" title="Spencer Wells at the TED Global conference in Arusha, Tanzania in 2007"><img alt="" src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b7/Spencer_Wells_2007.jpg/225px-Spencer_Wells_2007.jpg"@@AMEPARAM@@commons/thumb/b/b7/Spencer_Wells_2007.jpg/225px-Spencer_Wells_2007.jpg (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spencer_Wells)

Spencer Wells (born April 6, 1969 in Georgia, United States (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/Georgia,_United_States)) is a geneticist (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/Geneticist) and anthropologist (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/Anthropologist), an Explorer-in-Residence (http://www.nationalgeographic.com/explorers-program/eir/) at the National Geographic Society (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/National_Geographic_Society), and Frank H.T. Rhodes (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/Frank_H.T._Rhodes) Class of '56 Professor at Cornell University (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/Cornell_University). He leads The Genographic Project (http://www.hungangels.com/wiki/The_Genographic_Project)

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/b/b7/Spencer_Wells_2007.jpg/225px-Spencer_Wells_2007.jpg


Read about the multi-regional theory.

natina
05-02-2011, 02:35 PM
some need this education

Angeles Cid
05-02-2011, 10:48 PM
the theory of black eve has been going around for a long time

natina
05-03-2011, 03:39 AM
tits not a theory if it can be proven with DNA EVIDENCE

it can be proven with DNA EVIDENCE



CAUCASIAN people are part of the Haplogroups.

I bet you don't even know the what tha is
YOUR TALKING OUT THE SIDE OF YOUR NECK

YAPPIN!


http://www.africandna.com/

http://www.africandna.com/history.aspx


Think of the Whitest person you know: someone with blond hair, blue eyes and almost translucent skin, not a drop of Black ancestry in them. Now think of the darkest person you know: someone richly endowed with traditional African features, not even a drop of White ancestry in their past. Well, guess what? Scientists now trace the origins of both of these people-and of all human beings who have ever walked the face of the earth-to Black Africa, to the region around what is now Ethiopia. As Spencer Wells, the director of National Geographic's massive Genographic Project, puts it: "Our species evolved in Africa, and a subset of Africans left that continent around 50,000 years ago to populate the rest of the world. Our earliest ancestors probably looked very much like modern Africans."
This would have been news to "Bull" Connor and Orval Faubus and countless other racists from our past. It is also news to most of our White brothers and sisters today. But it is an undeniable fact. We are all, in a very real sense, "Africans." The only question is how recently did our ancestors leave the Motherland? For the 35 million of us who are African- Americans-and for Black people in the Caribbean and Latin America-the answer is: very recently.


The first enslaved Africans arrived in the United States in the 17th century. So, in historical terms, our ancestors arrived here from Africa virtually "yesterday." This means that we are among the oldest Americans; but it also means that our relation to our African ancestors is recent.
This also means that we have many genetic "cousins" walking around the African continent today-a fact that has long obsessed me. Like 130 million other people, I watched every episode of Alex Haley's Roots when it first aired in 1977. And like many other African-Americans, I have yearned ever since to trace my own roots, to identify where in Africa my own ancestors came from, what tribe they were part of. Why is it important to do this? Two reasons. First, almost as soon as an African-American steps off a plane in Africa, he can't help but realize how "African" our people still are. Despite the horrors of the slave trade, African slaves brought their culture with them: their music, dances, religious beliefs, the way they cooked food, the way they walked, the way they lived--and loved--even the way they buried their dead. And many of these customs and traditions have been preserved, or subtly transformed, by our African- American ancestors. Indeed, if you go to a dance club in Africa, attend church, or eat a meal with an African family, you will be surprised at how much you can feel right at home, as if you have just met long lost relatives. The feeling is uncanny-and intensely pleasurable.

But there is another, perhaps more powerful, reason to trace one's African ancestry. For centuries, racists attempted to prevent us from connecting with our past. The entire system of slavery was dedicated to preventing us from preserving any memories of Africa, our ancestors' tribal identities, the languages we spoke there, the customs we practiced, the gods that we worshipped, even our African names. Slavery was a carefully conceived effort to rob our people of all family ties and the most basic sense of self-knowledge. Slave owners didn't want their slaves building family trees. They didn't want them to marry or maintain deep, abiding relations with their mothers and fathers, their grandparents or their siblings. They wanted them to feel no bonds of kinship, especially to Africa or to other Africans. Why? Because a family unit is a bond-and an extended family is a larger bond-and out of such bonds, loyalty and resistance are built. And the last thing in the world slave owners wanted was resistance from our ancestors who were slaves. Slave owners wanted our ancestors to think of themselves as nameless objects of property, plain and simple, like a chicken or a cow.
I am convinced that this still impacts our people today, crippling our ability to know ourselves by connecting with our family's past in the way that so many White Americans can. Ignorance and misunderstanding of our own history have served as a limitation on what we can achieve. We have internalized generations of doubt and fears about who we are as a people and what we can accomplish, just as White racists wanted us to do. And we continue to pay a terrible price for this.
Carter G. Woodson, the father of African-American history, famously wrote that a people cannot determine their future if they are ignorant of their past. This is why Malcolm Little took as his surname the letter "X"--which marked the hidden past of our people back through slavery to Africa, the past that racists sought to deny us. Malcolm wanted that "X" to serve as a constant reminder that it was our people's mission to fill in the blank slate that was the African-American collective past, the details of which, down to our family trees and our individual tribal origins, had been robbed or hidden from us. I believe that this is as true and necessary today as it has ever been, especially given our high school drop-out and teen-pregnancy rates.

Fortunately, something magical is happening in the African-American community today: Many of us are now using genealogy to trace our family trees on this side of the Atlantic, back deep into slavery. And then, when the paper trail ends and we have exhausted our sources, we are starting to look at something that our ancestors from Africa brought with them that not even the slave trade could take away: their distinctive strands of DNA. Because their DNA has been passed down to us-their direct descendants-it can serve as a key to unlocking our African past.
With cells collected from the insides of our mouths, geneticists can analyze small sections of our genetic material that form distinctive sequences known as "haplotypes," which can then be compared to DNA samples taken from people on the African continent. The process is a bit like matching fingerprints on CSI. A match between our DNA and the DNA from a person from Africa means that we have possibly found someone with whom we share a common ancestor, someone from our same "tribe"-be it Igbo or Yoruba, Fulani or Mende. Such a match can reveal an ethnic identity that has been lost for centuries, since the dreadful Middle Passage.
I would urge anyone who is interested to try and trace their family back to Africa, through genealogical research and DNA testing. There are several tests available, and each is surprisingly inexpensive, often less than a pair of designer sneakers. The test you choose to take depends on whether you are male or female, how much you can afford and what you want to find out. For example, to learn something about your father's line (if you are a male) or your mother's ancestral line (if you are male or female), you can take a lineage test. This test analyzes small portions of DNA that are passed down, virtually unchanged (like a genetic fingerprint), from father to son, and mother to child. Because these small sections of your DNA do not recombine from one generation to the next, they become "markers of descent," which scientists use to determine ancestry shared by a group, such as a tribe or an ethnic group. We have all heard of "paternity tests." Well, in a similar way, these single-marker tests can solve genealogical mysteries by verifying if two individuals are related. When tracing your African tribal ancestry, they can also suggest your ancestral origins back to Africa, telling you where your female ancestors or your male ancestors originated-long before they were captured as slaves.

Keep in mind that this process is still in its infancy. The available DNA data is not by any means complete, and these tests will not yield the names of any of the individuals on our distant family trees-just the general geographic areas in which our ancestors lived. Sometimes the tests yield multiple exact tribal matches, making it necessary for historians to interpret the most plausible result. AfricanDNA.com, which I co-founded with FamilyTreeDNA, offers this service. And sometimes you will discover that your DNA can be traced to a White ancestor, especially on your father's side, because some masters raped their female slaves. About 30 percent of us have White male ancestors.
Yet learning even these bare facts can be enormously satisfying. Receiving the results in the mail, and sharing them with your family and friends, is one of the most exciting experiences an African-American can have. I know it has been for me, and for my friends such as Oprah Winfrey and Chris Tucker, who appeared in my PBS program, African American Lives (part two in the series appears on PBS in February).
Of course, it can be painful. When one discovers the identity of an ancestor who lived as a slave, one necessarily is forced to relive the brutal details of the slave past, a past that our ancestors experienced not as we do through history books or films, but in their everyday lives. But I believe we must get past this pain. If we want to go forward as a people, we need to be able to understand where we came from. We need to get ourselves grounded, and the process starts by grounding ourselves in our own family's extended past, our own genealogical "invisible network," like that cell phone ad says. This process is so nourishing because it can enable a person to feel the inimitable sense of connection, of belonging that can only be found by unearthing the branches of your family tree, your very own roots, roots that extend back through the slave past directly into the verdant soil of Africa.


the theory of black eve has been going around for a long time

natina
05-03-2011, 03:59 AM
mtDNA: ‘Caucasian Eve’ Had Only Six Daughters (http://ethnicgenome.wordpress.com/2009/03/01/mtdna-white-eve-had-only-six-daughters/)

Over 90% of all Caucasoids – people native to Europe, North Africa and the Middle East – are descendants of the same 6 women who lived 20,000 to 30,000 years ago.
Their mtDNA (maternal line) haplogroups are H, J, K, T, V and U. All of them came from haplogroup R, which originated (https://genographic.nationalgeographic.com/genographic/atlas.html?card=mm015) somewhere between the Black Sea and the Caspian Sea. That region is known as Caucasus, which is why white people are referred to as Caucasians.
East Asian haplogroups B and F, as well as the Pacific haplogroup P also derived from R, but due to the vast geographic separation from the above 6 haplogroups, they became vastly different.
There’re also some white people belonging to haplogroup X (and a small number of I and W), which is why BRYAN SYKES referred to Caucasoid mtDNA as having descended from the 7 daughters of Eve.
But as I explained (http://ethnicgenome.wordpress.com/2009/03/01/haplogroup-x-the-near-universal-mtdna/), I don’t believe it to be accurate because X is a near-universal haplogroup that is found in small numbers throughout much of the world, including among Amerindians, Pakistanis and others. It is therefore more an international haplogroup than a Caucasian one.
X originated (https://genographic.nationalgeographic.com/genographic/atlas.html?card=mm015) in Iran or Turkmenistan, and not in the Caucasus. It is part of the haplogroup IWX and is related to haplotype R only because both IWX and R descended from haplotype N 30,000 to 55,000 years ago.
There are similarly 9 women who are the ancestors of all Japanese people, and 4 women (http://www.plosone.org/article/info:doi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0001764) (haplogroups A2, B2, C1 and D1) are the ancestors of nearly all American Indians (and most of the remaining are descendants of haplogroup X).
This how mtDNA developed since the first humans left Africa. (You have to adjust your eyes because this map has Africa on top.)


http://ethnicgenome.wordpress.com/2009/03/01/mtdna-white-eve-had-only-six-daughters/
http://ethnicgenome.wordpress.com/2009/03/01/mtdna-white-eve-had-only-six-daughters/
http://ethnicgenome.wordpress.com/2009/03/01/mtdna-white-eve-had-only-six-daughters/
http://ethnicgenome.wordpress.com/2009/03/01/mtdna-white-eve-had-only-six-daughters/


the theory of black eve has been going around for a long time

dc_guy_75
05-03-2011, 05:15 AM
The future of humankind is to look like the people of the Mediterranean Sea. From Portugal around the coast through Italy, Greece, the Balkens, Turkey, Egypt, Lybia and on to Morroco. Its the melting pot of the human family.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d8/Mediterranean_Sea_political_map-en.svg/500px-Mediterranean_Sea_political_map-en.svg.png


Great, lazy and corrupt societies of the future.

Deimos
05-03-2011, 08:44 AM
well this is common knowledge really

natina
05-09-2011, 08:41 AM
White skin appeared just 20,000 to 50,000 years ago, as dark-skinned humans migrated to colder climes and lost much of their melanin pigment.

http://discovermagazine.com/2007/feb/20-things-skin


see there is no biological basis for the idea of a white or black or asian


Race is an old concept that should probably be discarded. It was

created by people who had a very limited knowledge of their world. If you

look at any genetic map (mitochondrial or Y chromosome DNA), you can

see there is no biological basis for the idea of a white or black or asian

race.

Here's a map

http://www.bradshawfoundation.com/journey/

natina
05-17-2011, 11:03 PM
great for freddie gomez