do you make it public that you like tgirls?

[Infern0]

I don't.

the thing is, if i met one i really liked and wanted to date her, things could be awkward.

i mean i know that i should have the courage to just come out with it, but the thing is, pretty much ALL my friends and family would disown me, which would be a bit shit really.

its a shame people think so backwards, but i think most of them would be like "so your gay?" (obviously im not), men do nothing for me whatsoever

im just worried because it's getting to the stage now, i am socialising wit a lot of trans gendered girls, and I am enjoying their company, im sure one day soon ill meet one that i properly fall for, and then i'll have to make a choice, her or the family.

what a sucky world this is!

[amberskyi]

just pay.less problems

[nonnonnon]

I don't feel the need to shout it off the mountain top or make animations of me as a superhero (cough cough) but I would never keep someone a secret

[amberskyi]

I don't feel the need to shout it off the mountain top or make animations of me as a superhero (cough cough) but I would never keep someone a secret

i like you

[Nowhere]

I don't.

the thing is, if i met one i really liked and wanted to date her, things could be awkward.

i mean i know that i should have the courage to just come out with it, but the thing is, pretty much ALL my friends and family would disown me, which would be a bit shit really.

its a shame people think so backwards, but i think most of them would be like "so your gay?" (obviously im not), men do nothing for me whatsoever

im just worried because it's getting to the stage now, i am socialising wit a lot of trans gendered girls, and I am enjoying their company, im sure one day soon ill meet one that i properly fall for, and then i'll have to make a choice, her or the family.

what a sucky world this is!

You know, I'd bet that they'd not disown you if you were simply 'gay' and brought a guy (and let's not argue with what makes a "guy" for this second - you get my point) back with you one day. THAT is what's f*cked up with the whole situation...

[Jericho]

Anyone don't like it, they're not someone i want as friends or family. :shrug

[Infern0]

You know, I'd bet that they'd not disown you if you were simply 'gay' and brought a guy (and let's not argue with what makes a "guy" for this second - you get my point) back with you one day. THAT is what's f*cked up with the whole situation...

hey, you have a point there.

that makes no sense, why that is semi-acceptable these days but a trans girl is not.

what hippocrites!

[CORVETTEDUDE]

Ya know....I don't run up and down the street with a big sign that says "I Love TGirls!" but, encountered on the subject, I admit my appreciation and affection. Were I with a TGirl, I will walk proudly or, not at all.
And, for the record, I don't care for the term...TGirl.

[phobun]

I don't.

the thing is, if i met one i really liked and wanted to date her, things could be awkward.

i mean i know that i should have the courage to just come out with it, but the thing is, pretty much ALL my friends and family would disown me, which would be a bit shit really.

its a shame people think so backwards, but i think most of them would be like "so your gay?" (obviously im not), men do nothing for me whatsoever

im just worried because it's getting to the stage now, i am socialising wit a lot of trans gendered girls, and I am enjoying their company, im sure one day soon ill meet one that i properly fall for, and then i'll have to make a choice, her or the family.

what a sucky world this is!


It may seem like a sucky world to you, but that is because cockhounds like yourself just want to suck cock in secret then go home and adore your mothers.

If you were a real man and had any sort of spine whatsoever, your life would be lived on your own terms and with respect for the woman you like, whatever circumstances she has overcome.

[kaiser1one]

I don't feel the need to shout it off the mountain top or make animations of me as a superhero (cough cough) but I would never keep someone a secret

This. All my friend's know I like Tgirls anyway so I'm good. I've caught Tgirl stuff on my dad's comp. I don't say anything about it.

[Infern0]

It may seem like a sucky world to you, but that is because cockhounds like yourself just want to suck cock in secret then go home and adore your mothers.

If you were a real man and had any sort of spine whatsoever, your life would be lived on your own terms and with respect for the woman you like, whatever circumstances she has overcome.

Calm down

I already said if i did meet one i really liked, then I would come out with it, and as for adoring my mother, i havent seen her since 1991 so you can fuck right off talking about stuff you don't know, love.

[phobun]

Calm down

I already said if i did meet one i really liked, then I would come out with it, and as for adoring my mother, i havent seen her since 1991 so you can fuck right off talking about stuff you don't know, love.


It shouldn't be a matter of having to "come out".

If you really consider the girl you like to be a girl, then you wouldn't be so obsessed about the "gay" question you whined about in the original post.

And if anyone gave you any lip, then it would be a merely a matter of standing up for her, not "coming out"...

[Infern0]

It shouldn't be a matter of having to "come out".

If you really consider the girl you like to be a girl, then you wouldn't be so obsessed about the "gay" question you whined about in the original post.

And if anyone gave you any lip, then it would be a merely a matter of standing up for her, not "coming out"...

I agree, it shouldnt, but the beliefs of you and me are not shared by 99% of the public, if my original post made you think i'd be too gutless to stand up for her, then i gave you the wrong impression, i most certainly would do that. What i was getting at was that it will be a shame when it comes to that.

what the post really needed was some deep phlisophical title to better explain my feelings towards the small mindedness of modern day society, but sadly the words don't come to me right now, so you got a load of random crap that i typed without thinking instead.

and as for sucking cock, since we are getting crass, thats not something i get any enjoyment out of if im being honest.

[Bobzz]

My wife knows ... and she's cool with it.

[phobun]

I agree, it shouldnt, but the beliefs of you and me are not shared by 99% of the public, if my original post made you think i'd be too gutless to stand up for her, then i gave you the wrong impression, i most certainly would do that. What i was getting at was that it will be a shame when it comes to that.


Fair enough. Maybe if your family understands at the outset that your social circle includes all kinds of people and that you find the small-minded conservatism of where you grew up to be repugnant, then they'll know better than to guilt you with it later.

[Infern0]

Fair enough. Maybe if your family understands at the outset that your social circle includes all kinds of people and that you find the small-minded conservatism of where you grew up to be repugnant, then they'll know better than to guilt you with it later.

heh, appereciate the positive thinking but when they find out its gonna be world war 3, they are decent people, but VERY small minded.

anyway, no point whinging, just wondering if anyone shared my frustration or could give tips on how to handle it

[dderek123]

Well you are assuming that everyone would disown you. You may be surprised by how many would be tolerant of it. I just came out about it since I updated my relationship status in FB last year and it really wasn't a big deal. Last weekend me and my GF went out with my boss for dinner.

Perhaps you are using this 'sucky world' as an excuse so you can live a little bit longer in a nice and cozy closet? There will always be escorts available am I right?

[dderek123]

heh, appereciate the positive thinking but when they find out its gonna be world war 3, they are decent people, but VERY small minded.

anyway, no point whinging, just wondering if anyone shared my frustration or could give tips on how to handle it
Well I was in a similar situation as you. What I did was a bit extreme. I just packed up and left. I felt as though I couldn't be the real me and all the time I was acting fake (or how I perceived others wanted me to act). I went to Thailand and haven't looked back. I did all this in the midst of a career change so it was easy to leave my job because I basically didn't have one.

Looking back now it would be more difficult to do what I am doing back home. I thought moving away from home was the best way. I considered other places too (Ottawa, San Fran, etc.) but Thailand had the best looking ladyboys!

[wendell]

It depends on how you'd define public. As a few people have already mentioned it's not something I feel the need to shoehorn into every conversation I have. On the other hand all my friends know and people I meet if the discussion steers that way find out.

The only caveat to that is my family, while they know i'm friends with some transgendered individuals they do not know that i've had relationships with some.. If I was in a serious relationship with someone who was transgendered then yes absolutely I would let them know, if indeed that was something they needed to or my partner desired them to know. As it stands at the moment however i'd have to spend endless [one member told and it would be the whole families business] mindnumbing, and for me embarrasing, conversations about sexuality and the mechanics of lovemaking. It's something I could do without until it becomes an issue that could impinge on someone else's happiness, paerticuarly someone I care deeply about.

[rockabilly]

At the end of the day you can only guarantee your happiness , If you try to please everyone else and live up to their expectations then you will never be happy.

It's not that bad being disowned ... think of all the money you'll save on birthday/easter/anniversary/Christmas presents

[melbourne1]

My friends know and they dont think of me in a different way or anything. And if they did I wouldnt class them as friends anyway. Infact, when they see Sarina Valentina on my desktop screen or pics of Kelly Shore I know they're all thinking "wow, she's hot!"

My mum and dad dont know or at least I dont think they do but unless I have a relationship with a trans girl ive no need to tell them though they'd be completely cool with it ive no doubt as long as it makes me happy!

So basically I dont announce it to the world every 6 seconds just like I dont announce I fancy the hell out of Katy Perry everyday and love cheeseburgers but its known.

[f1manoz]

Most of my friends know, and anyone who couldn't accept it I just eventually cut out of my life. Accept me for who I am and where my interests lie, and if I were to be dating a T-girl, accept her for who she is as well.

It's my life and I can like who or what I want.

[insurgentes]

No, I don't make it public.

[bte]

I don't.

the thing is, if i met one i really liked and wanted to date her, things could be awkward.

i mean i know that i should have the courage to just come out with it, but the thing is, pretty much ALL my friends and family would disown me, which would be a bit shit really.

its a shame people think so backwards, but i think most of them would be like "so your gay?" (obviously im not), men do nothing for me whatsoever

im just worried because it's getting to the stage now, i am socialising wit a lot of trans gendered girls, and I am enjoying their company, im sure one day soon ill meet one that i properly fall for, and then i'll have to make a choice, her or the family.

what a sucky world this is!

I have had some TS girls and guys as girlfriends and boyfriends and most of the them do not want their T known to other people. So my family just thought I was dating a girl or guy and not a TS girl or TS guy.

[moonman]

fuck it... i dnt see a reason not especially since im dating a Ts:shrug

[innocentbychoice]

Do they really need to know? Most transgirls would like to be treated and seen as GIRLS, not "transsexuals" you know what I mean? So if you were dating one, why would you feel the need to tell your parents what is (or was) between her legs? Just treat her as the girl she is and if they ever hear a rumor about her just tell them she makes you happy (or if she wants to keep a stealth life, tell them it's a lie).

In any case, I would understand you worrying about what your parents think, but your friends? C'mon now, a real friend would be happy with what and whom makes you happy, if they have a problem with it, they aren't real friends.

You just need to man up and tell the world you don't give a fuck what they think (I might know something about that I'm gay after all), you just have to live your life for yourself and nobody else.

[NatashaLover]

Do they really need to know? Most transgirls would like to be treated and seen as GIRLS, not "transsexuals" you know what I mean? So if you were dating one, why would you feel the need to tell your parents what is (or was) between her legs? Just treat her as the girl she is and if they ever hear a rumor about her just tell them she makes you happy (or if she wants to keep a stealth life, tell them it's a lie).

In any case, I would understand you worrying about what your parents think, but your friends? C'mon now, a real friend would be happy with what and whom makes you happy, if they have a problem with it, they aren't real friends.

You just need to man up and tell the world you don't give a fuck what they think (I might know something about that I'm gay after all), you just have to live your life for yourself and nobody else.

You got a point here. :iagree:

[Willie Escalade]

I don't make it public, but I also don't hide it either...

[Jake4]

My gf is trans and I have no intention of hiding her or keeping a secret. I am proud of her and I want to be with her. I don't usually get asked if my gf is trans, but if someone does ask then I tell that person yes.

If anyone disapproves of my gf then that person is not and never will be a friend.

[onmyknees]

It may seem like a sucky world to you, but that is because cockhounds like yourself just want to suck cock in secret then go home and adore your mothers.

If you were a real man and had any sort of spine whatsoever, your life would be lived on your own terms and with respect for the woman you like, whatever circumstances she has overcome.


You see...there you go again..................you just can't help yourself. The poster asked a simple question. You'd rather name call than answer the question because you can't answer it honestly. Your wife doesn't know you sneak off and lurk in a tranny forum. Don't ever lecture anyone on how they should live thier lives you pathetic hypocrite. Stop attacking people who have not done so to you. You fuck up every thread you respond to with the same old bull shit. You're redundant and revolting.

[FreddieGomez]

hell naw! nobody has to know

[amberskyi]

**rolling eyes at this entire thread**

[Infern0]

You see...there you go again..................you just can't help yourself. The poster asked a simple question. You'd rather name call than answer the question because you can't answer it honestly. Your wife doesn't know you sneak off and lurk in a tranny forum. Don't ever lecture anyone on how they should live thier lives you pathetic hypocrite. Stop attacking people who have not done so to you. You fuck up every thread you respond to with the same old bull shit. You're redundant and revolting.

don't worry, we settled the matter.

[youshouldtrythislol]

I don't go screaming it to the world, but if I was with a 't' girl, I would not hide it. There again, if I was with a girl, I wouldn't go around screaming her business to the world either.

[blckhaze]

family comes around (most folks will get over it especially if you know all the shit they did around town)
friends come and go and good ones dont really give a fuck (and probably already know)


No need to broadcast it like many said, but denial is worse long term.

[Chris in LA]

So basically I dont announce it to the world every 6 seconds just like I dont announce I fancy the hell out of Katy Perry everyday and love cheeseburgers but its known.

Ewww....you fancy the hell out of Katy Perry?? Have you seen the thread on here with her without makeup? Not hot at all!

[Chris in LA]

I don't.

the thing is, if i met one i really liked and wanted to date her, things could be awkward.

i mean i know that i should have the courage to just come out with it, but the thing is, pretty much ALL my friends and family would disown me, which would be a bit shit really.

its a shame people think so backwards, but i think most of them would be like "so your gay?" (obviously im not), men do nothing for me whatsoever

im just worried because it's getting to the stage now, i am socialising wit a lot of trans gendered girls, and I am enjoying their company, im sure one day soon ill meet one that i properly fall for, and then i'll have to make a choice, her or the family.

what a sucky world this is!

Easy solution: only date one thats 100% passable and don't sweat it. Your family is not going to be running in these circles so they should never have to know. I have a roomate who has no idea I like these girls and I've brought 2 home that he met and had no fuckin idea.

The great thing is, I showed a few different friends pics of these girls and they were like, "holy shit, that is the hottest girl I have ever seen! How did you meet her??" The whole time they all think they are real girls, just super fuckin hot! So if you're like me and can pull completely passable girls, you're straight...no pun intended, lol

[LittleGuy]

Ummm phobun is a tranny.

[SunshyneMonroe]

Ummm phobun is a tranny.

so r u :party:

[dc_guy_75]

Easy solution: only date one thats 100% passable and don't sweat it.

....The whole time they all think they are real girls, just super fuckin hot! So if you're like me and can pull completely passable girls, you're straight...no pun intended, lol


Maybe you've met many "100% passable" tgirls, I haven't. I've found most women (and many men) immediately have subconscious suspicions, even with the most beautiful (our brain is evolutionary attuned to gender)

But that's part of life. I'll still go out on dates and more than one girl has met family.

I'm sure there are many trans-women, totally under the radar, but they're rare as meeting a (non-part time) model.

[Infern0]

Maybe you've met many "100% passable" tgirls, I haven't. I've found most women (and many men) immediately have subconscious suspicions, even with the most beautiful (our brain is evolutionary attuned to gender)

But that's part of life. I'll still go out on dates and more than one girl has met family.

I'm sure there are many trans-women, totally under the radar, but they're rare as meeting a (non-part time) model.

yeah i agree, there are many really beutiful girls, like Nikki Extravaganza, but no way are girls like that passable.

[amberskyi]

yeah i agree, there are many really beutiful girls, like Nikki Extravaganza, but no way are girls like that passable.

theres a difference between passable and undetectable.
passable just means that in most situations the girl is accepted and treated as a woman,whether or not it if the people the people around her know her birth gender.alot of transsexual woman are passable.very few are undetectable.

[Infern0]

theres a difference between passable and undetectable.
passable just means that in most situations the girl is accepted and treated as a woman,whether or not it if the people the people around her know her birth gender.alot of transsexual woman are passable.very few are undetectable.

ah ok, thanks for clearing that up, i didnt know the definition of those terms

[dc_guy_75]

theres a difference between passable and undetectable.
passable just means that in most situations the girl is accepted and treated as a woman,whether or not it if the people the people around her know her birth gender.alot of transsexual woman are passable.very few are undetectable.


That's a great point between being "passable" vs "undetectable".

It sums up a few errors of judgment, on my part.

[phobun]

You see...there you go again..................you just can't help yourself. The poster asked a simple question. You'd rather name call than answer the question because you can't answer it honestly. Your wife doesn't know you sneak off and lurk in a tranny forum. Don't ever lecture anyone on how they should live thier lives you pathetic hypocrite. Stop attacking people who have not done so to you. You fuck up every thread you respond to with the same old bull shit. You're redundant and revolting.


..........

[LittleGuy]

so r u :party:

Many women on here seen my pics kid.

[ConceitedNobody]

Of course, why not ?!

[nicebrn]

Sure.

I'm out to everyone whose opinion matters to me, so why not? And even in the past I had no problems being in public with any girl I chose to date, even though many of those girls weren't exactly "undetectable" by any means. At the end of the day it's just degrading, disrespectful and rude to act like you're embarrassed or ashamed to be seen with someone you supposedly like. And while I have many, many faults, deliberate rudeness is not one of them.

Though I did have to deal with some rather invasive and mocking questions from my older sister when I finally explained everything to her. I still find it hard to have anything but a civil surface conversation with her, unfortunately.

[Infern0]

of course, if anyone takes the piss i could always punch them in the face

[Helvis2012]

It may seem like a sucky world to you, but that is because cockhounds like yourself just want to suck cock in secret then go home and adore your mothers.

If you were a real man and had any sort of spine whatsoever, your life would be lived on your own terms and with respect for the woman you like, whatever circumstances she has overcome.

That's a little rough. Collectively, yes things might be different if everyone was secure enough to act and do as they please but the real trouble is the prejudice. Just because this guy doesn't wish to make his sexual preferences known doesn't excuse or explain the general intolerance for his situation. Is everybody supposed to showcase their sexuality or is it just some groups in particular? Is there any room for personal preference? Is it wrong to prefer to keep the matter to yourself? See the slippery slope?
Anyway, your characterization of this guy is unfair and undeserved. :banana:

[nicebrn]

of course, if anyone takes the piss i could always punch them in the faceSuccess is the most satisfying form of revenge. :D

[Infern0]

Success is the most satisfying form of revenge. :D

theres nothing more satisfying than putting some small minded tosser to sleep

[Infern0]

That's a little rough. Collectively, yes things might be different if everyone was secure enough to act and do as they please but the real trouble is the prejudice. Just because this guy doesn't wish to make his sexual preferences known doesn't excuse or explain the general intolerance for his situation. Is everybody supposed to showcase their sexuality or is it just some groups in particular? Is there any room for personal preference? Is it wrong to prefer to keep the matter to yourself? See the slippery slope?
Anyway, your characterization of this guy is unfair and undeserved. :banana:

i put it in a later post, that i wouldnt keep it a secret if i did date a tgirl, but what i was getting at is what you pointed out about the intolerence.

the thing is, revealing that i have slightly different sexual tendencies than the accepted norm is a point-of-no-return type deal, once it's known, you cant take it back, so i would only do it for someone special, and not someone who i'm likely to split up with after a few weeks, leaving me to clear up the pieces of my shattered family relationship

[dogsandcats]

It may seem like a sucky world to you, but that is because cockhounds like yourself just want to suck cock in secret then go home and adore your mothers.

If you were a real man and had any sort of spine whatsoever, your life would be lived on your own terms and with respect for the woman you like, whatever circumstances she has overcome.

So everyone knows you like to post on hungangels?

[Infern0]

So everyone knows you like to post on hungangels?

http://www.rvgfanatic.com/mediac/400_0/media/DIR_450101/SimmonsDAMN.gif

DAMN!

let it go, there's no beef, its reconciled

[Ryz]

That's a little rough. Collectively, yes things might be different if everyone was secure enough to act and do as they please but the real trouble is the prejudice. Just because this guy doesn't wish to make his sexual preferences known doesn't excuse or explain the general intolerance for his situation. Is everybody supposed to showcase their sexuality or is it just some groups in particular? Is there any room for personal preference? Is it wrong to prefer to keep the matter to yourself? See the slippery slope?
Anyway, your characterization of this guy is unfair and undeserved. :banana:

This is the first time I've ever seen you post more then four words at once

[Infern0]

This is the first time I've ever seen you post more then four words at once

sakura???? :Bowdown:

[phobun]

That's a little rough. Collectively, yes things might be different if everyone was secure enough to act and do as they please but the real trouble is the prejudice. Just because this guy doesn't wish to make his sexual preferences known doesn't excuse or explain the general intolerance for his situation. Is everybody supposed to showcase their sexuality or is it just some groups in particular? Is there any room for personal preference? Is it wrong to prefer to keep the matter to yourself? See the slippery slope?
Anyway, your characterization of this guy is unfair and undeserved. :banana:


I agree. I shot from the hip too soon. He's a good guy.

[phobun]

So everyone knows you like to post on hungangels?


Being comfortable in public with transsexuals is not equivalent to posting on a porn forum.

[Helvis2012]

I agree. I shot from the hip too soon. He's a good guy.

I always thought you were a leveled headed person. That's why I commented. You usually put more into your comments.

[Chris in LA]

Maybe you've met many "100% passable" tgirls, I haven't. I've found most women (and many men) immediately have subconscious suspicions, even with the most beautiful (our brain is evolutionary attuned to gender)

But that's part of life. I'll still go out on dates and more than one girl has met family.

I'm sure there are many trans-women, totally under the radar, but they're rare as meeting a (non-part time) model.

They do exist, believe me. For the most part, they need to be asian, generally they are smaller framed and are much more passable. I am dating a girl right now who is not only passable but also undetectable as well. How do I know that I'm not just being biased with her? Well, I've taken her out to dinner a couple of times, introduced her to my roomate, he had no idea and when I took her out to a club that featured ts girls, I had a number of ts come up to me and ask, "is your girlfriend a ts?"

When a ts can't detect another ts, that is pretty fuckin money, don't ya think? So yeah, although rare, they do exist...

[dderek123]

They exist but passability is subjective. It's really in the eye of the beholder. The most important thing is if you are cool with it. There will always be someone out there who can clock a TS.

My gf is very passable. If I brought her back to Canada nobody would have any idea. But here in Thailand she gets clocked quite often. I imagine the other way around would work too.

[loveburst]

I do make it public,

I had to start it gradually, just to test out my theory..

..but everyone likes it.. I'm happy (..about what I like & why, and..), the people around me are aswell..

(..I like all girls though, but I try not to keep it as a secret, that shemales have "really" done it for me too, just like GG's..)

Actually after being open about it, I started to pull more like minded and open people into my life - works like magic.

(Tip: people pondering this - you might benefit of watching "The Secret - the movie" (original version - with Abraham Hicks).. ..and might find the information in there really useful..)

[nosferatus666]

Well to make it public you have to have balls...
I personally can't yet, call me an hypocrite but the truth is that everybody lives a dfferent situation,Maybe we live in denial... I do have a woman in my life and kids, so ts girls for me is the forbidden fruit,my secret pleasure, and my woman is part guilty, she doesn't like anal...for now i'm comfortable with my cowardice

[ed_jaxon]

I gotta ask...what does it mean to make it public?

I hang out all the time with girls in public settings such as restaurants and such. Does that count. I don't scream anything about my sexuality to anyone who I do not want to know.

I like to hang with a lot of different people who some might say are outside of the mainstream. I am pretty comfortable and cool with being me.

[Jackal]

I've dated transwomen in public, taken them to restaurants and cafes, walks in the park, etc...does that count or do you mean wearing a shirt that says proud to have a TG GF or something like that?

[dderek123]

I don't think it is implied that you need to wear a tshirt advertising it or put up billboards explaining the sexual identity of your partner. C'mon now.

To 'make it public' I believe it is to be cool with going out and being seen with TS. Treat your TS partner as you would anybody else. It seems that most TS admirers are not yet comfortable enough to do just that.

[Jackal]

I don't think it is implied that you need to wear a tshirt advertising it or put up billboards explaining the sexual identity of your partner. C'mon now.

To 'make it public' I believe it is to be cool with going out and being seen with TS. Treat your TS partner as you would anybody else. It seems that most TS admirers are not yet comfortable enough to do just that.


IDK, I've seen pride shirts for other groups, why not transattracted too, although since I am single it would not make sense to have that shirt.

[Jackal]

I would guess introducing a TG GF to your family a big part or final step of making it public,

[Infern0]

I gotta ask...what does it mean to make it public?

I hang out all the time with girls in public settings such as restaurants and such. Does that count. I don't scream anything about my sexuality to anyone who I do not want to know.

I like to hang with a lot of different people who some might say are outside of the mainstream. I am pretty comfortable and cool with being me.

Making it public, i.e making it public knowledge, not hiding the fact from anyone

[Helvis2012]

Making it public, i.e making it public knowledge, not hiding the fact from anyone


I think Ed has it right. Unless not hiding it means putting a full page ad in the Times.

[nonnonnon]

if someone asks if she's trans, what do you say?

[Infern0]

if someone asks if she's trans, what do you say?

i'd probably say ask her and let her handle it how she wants tbf, its not for me to confirm or deny it is it?

[nicebrn]

Yeah, that should have already come up early in the relationship. In my experience, you find out real quick whether she wants you to reveal her status to other people or not. If she doesn't, I wouldn't feel comfortable revealing it under most circumstances. Though I've never had any serious involvement with a girl who wasn't comfortable with me admitting she was trans if I were asked.

After meeting the one girl who I brought along to visit my family, I was asked (with some confusion) "if that was a man." I just wanted to see their reaction since I was still considering whether to out myself yet. It was about what I expected: immediate denial and disapproval--mostly because I let them read between the lines. (They knew as well as I do that any girl I bother to introduce to them is either a girlfriend or soon to be one...which also implies that we're fucking.) Though it did take another couple of years before I admitted everything about my preferences. Since then they don't really care to expose themselves to that part of my life, but I've learned to live with it.

[Infern0]

Yeah, that should have already come up early in the relationship. In my experience, you find out real quick whether she wants you to reveal her status to other people or not. If she doesn't, I wouldn't feel comfortable revealing it under most circumstances. Though I've never had any serious involvement with a girl who wasn't comfortable with me admitting she was trans if I were asked.

After meeting the one girl who I brought along to visit my family, I was asked (with some confusion) "if that was a man." I just wanted to see their reaction since I was still considering whether to out myself yet. It was about what I expected: immediate denial and disapproval--mostly because I let them read between the lines. (They knew as well as I do that any girl I bother to introduce to them is either a girlfriend or soon to be one...which also implies that we're fucking.) Though it did take another couple of years before I admitted everything about my preferences. Since then they don't really care to expose themselves to that part of my life, but I've learned to live with it.

i hope for her sake they didnt say that in front of her.

[nicebrn]

No, it was the next day over the phone after I'd gotten back home. She was very thick-skinned and secure and it wouldn't have bothered her anyway. I come from the typical conservative black family, so she was already prepared for the worst-case scenario. But they treated her like any girlfriend they'd met, so it was a surprise to her (though not me) when I told her about the shitstorm that was going on behind the scenes.

[lftsgf]

I haven't told any1. But I plan to.....

[SirDrake]

Y should I get on a bull horn and make an announcement?

[a994]

I would treat any woman whom I was dating the same. I would not keep her a secret.

Now I'm not going to tell anyone that she's a transsexual, unless she wants me to (if asked). Otherwise, it's no one else's business.

[horndog]

Infern0 (http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/member.php?u=74781)

A valid question for HA members...

I was in a serious two year relationship (It's been a few years ago now...) with a wonderful TG gal. In fact, up until that point in my life I would have to say that she was the most "perfect" woman I had ever met. This including my ex wife, whom I did love at one time.

All of my family and friends met her, got to know her. Even though I know the term is way over-used around here, she was that passable as a GG. Out of all the people, men and women that she met, only my ex, thought there was something unusual about her.

She was (is) a very discrete and intelligent person. To my knowledge she still hasn't done SRS. She may never, I don't know.

She could make a ton of money doing porn or escorting, it's not for her, she makes GREAT money as a hairstylist for rich people.

Let me get to the point. After a couple of years together, she "rightfully" asked me where WE were headed. She wanted a commitment out of me. This forced me to consider whether I was ready to back her up in ANY situation/questions that may have come up about her "nature"... She's an upfront type of gal, and she wanted to be able to be honest with my friends and family. I admit to you all, that I freaked a little, and yes, turned chicken-shit too. I could not handle this at the time.

I broke her heart and that was that. It hurt me too, but that's the way it came down.

If this had happened to me now, MAYBE, I wouldn't care if folks close to me found out I was with "a dude with implanted tits" to put it crudely. Because that is the way my circle of family and friends (for the most part) would view it...

OK, let me put on the FLAK gear... :dancing:

[Boardwalkempire]

No I cant say that I have...

[phobun]

I was in a serious two year relationship (It's been a few years ago now...) with a wonderful TG gal. In fact, up until that point in my life I would have to say that she was the most "perfect" woman I had ever met. This including my ex wife, whom I did love at one time.

All of my family and friends met her, got to know her. Even though I know the term is way over-used around here, she was that passable as a GG. Out of all the people, men and women that she met, only my ex, thought there was something unusual about her.

She was (is) a very discrete and intelligent person. To my knowledge she still hasn't done SRS. She may never, I don't know.

She could make a ton of money doing porn or escorting, it's not for her, she makes GREAT money as a hairstylist for rich people.

Let me get to the point. After a couple of years together, she "rightfully" asked me where WE were headed. She wanted a commitment out of me. This forced me to consider whether I was ready to back her up in ANY situation/questions that may have come up about her "nature"... She's an upfront type of gal, and she wanted to be able to be honest with my friends and family. I admit to you all, that I freaked a little, and yes, turned chicken-shit too. I could not handle this at the time.

I broke her heart and that was that. It hurt me too, but that's the way it came down.


You will regret your selfishness for years to come.

[giovanni_hotel]

IF you're posting on this board, trust it's public.

[amberskyi]

Infern0 (http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/member.php?u=74781)

A valid question for HA members...

I was in a serious two year relationship (It's been a few years ago now...) with a wonderful TG gal. In fact, up until that point in my life I would have to say that she was the most "perfect" woman I had ever met. This including my ex wife, whom I did love at one time.

All of my family and friends met her, got to know her. Even though I know the term is way over-used around here, she was that passable as a GG. Out of all the people, men and women that she met, only my ex, thought there was something unusual about her.

She was (is) a very discrete and intelligent person. To my knowledge she still hasn't done SRS. She may never, I don't know.

She could make a ton of money doing porn or escorting, it's not for her, she makes GREAT money as a hairstylist for rich people.

Let me get to the point. After a couple of years together, she "rightfully" asked me where WE were headed. She wanted a commitment out of me. This forced me to consider whether I was ready to back her up in ANY situation/questions that may have come up about her "nature"... She's an upfront type of gal, and she wanted to be able to be honest with my friends and family. I admit to you all, that I freaked a little, and yes, turned chicken-shit too. I could not handle this at the time.

I broke her heart and that was that. It hurt me too, but that's the way it came down.

If this had happened to me now, MAYBE, I wouldn't care if folks close to me found out I was with "a dude with implanted tits" to put it crudely. Because that is the way my circle of family and friends (for the most part) would view it...

OK, let me put on the FLAK gear... :dancing:

thats extremely sad.i feel for her because i went through this in june.
it really sucks when someone who you really love and think you can trust with your heart breaks it for some idiotic reason like cowardice.
its kinda just makes me want to stop trying...
fuck boys,get money!

[wendell]

I appreciate your honesty Horndog it takes guts to admit when you when you think you were wrong or behaved poorly. For the record I think you made the wrong decision, two years. That is a long time with someone you love to end it for any reason least of all one that doesn't affect the quality of feelings you have for each other. I don't want to beat you over the head with the decision though as you seem to feel contrite for it and I do empathise with your situation I can understand your family fears, but if ever there was a time to throw caution to the wind it is surely in pursuit of a long term loving relationhip.

[dolce__vita]

Infern0 (http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/member.php?u=74781)

A valid question for HA members...

I was in a serious two year relationship (It's been a few years ago now...) with a wonderful TG gal. In fact, up until that point in my life I would have to say that she was the most "perfect" woman I had ever met. This including my ex wife, whom I did love at one time.

All of my family and friends met her, got to know her. Even though I know the term is way over-used around here, she was that passable as a GG. Out of all the people, men and women that she met, only my ex, thought there was something unusual about her.

She was (is) a very discrete and intelligent person. To my knowledge she still hasn't done SRS. She may never, I don't know.

She could make a ton of money doing porn or escorting, it's not for her, she makes GREAT money as a hairstylist for rich people.

Let me get to the point. After a couple of years together, she "rightfully" asked me where WE were headed. She wanted a commitment out of me. This forced me to consider whether I was ready to back her up in ANY situation/questions that may have come up about her "nature"... She's an upfront type of gal, and she wanted to be able to be honest with my friends and family. I admit to you all, that I freaked a little, and yes, turned chicken-shit too. I could not handle this at the time.

I broke her heart and that was that. It hurt me too, but that's the way it came down.

If this had happened to me now, MAYBE, I wouldn't care if folks close to me found out I was with "a dude with implanted tits" to put it crudely. Because that is the way my circle of family and friends (for the most part) would view it...

OK, let me put on the FLAK gear... :dancing:


Coward. However you're no different than any man I've ever met.

[LibertyHarkness]

try dating a genetic girl as a transsexual its just as insanely hard :(

[horndog]

I'll take all the bitch slapping quietly...

It was cowardly, I agree.

It also hurt my heart too.

As the song goes, regrets, I have a quite few.

After my ex and I divorced (I was the broken-hearted fool in this...), I told myself that I would never get in a SERIOUS relationship again. Of course this was self-delusional. So when I met HER, it was a bit of a "re-bounding" situation for me, she came along at the right time.

I NEVER, ever, led her to believe that we were headed for "permanent" residency. In fact, I considered it a perfect relationship because we enjoyed each other's company so much without the traditional "pressures" that men and women put on each other...

I would NEVER have intentionally hurt her. If she had been a GG and put that ultimatum on me, it's highly likely that I would have said the same to her, why ruin a good (from my point of view at the time...) thing.

Of course without the additional add-on of standing up, or not, to family, friends and possibly, those who hold the reigns of your particular career, and how they feel about your being with a TG woman.

I work in a very "conservative" business, I do believe that it would have poisoned my career once the word got around that I was with a TG on a full time basis.

In a socially-evolved world, none of this would matter, but we don't live there yet. Probably not in our life times...

It's easily justifiable (especially for you gals) to throw rocks at me, it was something I had to think HARD about, making my living out in the world that is OUTSIDE of HA.

Heh, I could go on and on but I'll finish up here. Obviously I visit HA from time to time. I have never used an escort, or even been to a TG club. There you have it.