My Dilema

[Chris in LA]

Hi all, thanx for reading, I am new here, but think this site is awesome! I've been reading posts and finally decided to sign up for an account and get your opinions.

So, I went to this club that has a ts night & thought I'd play it cool, just grab a drink and see what was up. There were quite a few hot ts girls there but I'm kind of shy so I don't usually approach girls, especially since my experience is somewhat limited, I've only hooked up with a couple ts girls that I've met online, so this going to the bar was a new deal for me.

I was surprised about how many ts girls were coming up and talking to me, it caught me off guard, but perhaps because I was the new guy, they wanted to see what I was all about. A couple of girls were smiling at me at the bar, but again, without a whole lot of experiences, and my unwillingness to approach them, I decided to walk around and check out the rest of the scene. Well, they followed me and asked me why I wasn't talking to them. I just laughed it off and had a nice conversation with one of them. After a few minutes, she asked to exchange #s, so we did-i called her on my cell so she could save my #...when I asked her what her name was, she told me one name, then said no, input this name instead...I was a little perplexed, but whatever....

About a half hour later, I was lucky enough to have one of the more attractive ts girls I've ever met strike up a conversation with me & we talked for almost an hour it seemed like. I wound up buying her a drink & we got along great. In the meantime, the girl I met b4 was frowning at me & then wound up storming out with her gf...I didn't realize we were dating already! lol

So I waited the standard 3 days to hit her up after, actually it might have been 4or 5 days later, haha, but I text her and she said she was mad at me. I asked why and she said I should know why, but whatever, we got past that and I wanted to know if I could get to know her better. I offered to bring over a bottle of wine so we could just relax and have good conversation to see if it was going to go anywhere.

She responded with something to the effect of "I don't know you well enough yet to have you over to my house...unless you are a customer. But if you want to treat me like a lady and take me out to a nice dinner then we can do that."

This threw me for a bit of a loop, cause I couldn't really understand how she didn't know me enough to have me over, but of course, if I was a paying customer, it would be no problem for her to invite me into her home.

Now, the girls I've met online and hooked up with were not "working" girls, so I never had to shell any $ out of pocket, although I did take one out to dinner and another one out to the movies, just like a normal date.

I didn't even know before her remarks that she was a working girl, but I'm glad she at least let me know. I text her back and told her I've never paid for ass & she responded with, well you can take me out to dinner then.

So, my question for y'all is, do I take her out to dinner and try to work that angle, like I've done in the past, or would it actually be cheaper to just pay her for her services? Which is the better investment?

[TSMichelleAustin]

UR in trouble now! She is a working girl and prob will remain one if u date her. So u need to be prepared for that! There is already a thread on here with another guy doing the same thing... just be careful its a small ts community and can cum bite u back on the ass. Just so you know! Good luck hun!

[flabbybody]

given the circumstances that you met, she'll always view you as a trick.
so just pay the freight and keep it uncomplicated

[rockabilly]

If you just want sex then pay her upfront for it.

It'd be cheaper and save time in the grand scheme.

Now if you want a relationship w/ the girl then take her on dates and get to know her. :shrug:

[FreddieGomez]

aint nothing special about u, she only sees u as dollar signs, some dudes are easier to hustle and obviously you're one of them and they know it....

[AlwaysAda]

LOL trannies are crazy.. and this shit is the reason why... give her all your money... =)

[Chris in LA]

UR in trouble now! She is a working girl and prob will remain one if u date her. So u need to be prepared for that! There is already a thread on here with another guy doing the same thing... just be careful its a small ts community and can cum bite u back on the ass. Just so you know! Good luck hun!

LOL, ok thanx...I didn't know that she was a workin girl, not that I have anything against working girls...but should I even date her now? I don't even know if that is a good idea at this point...

[Chris in LA]

given the circumstances that you met, she'll always view you as a trick.
so just pay the freight and keep it uncomplicated

Wait a minute, I didn't go on some working girl website and call her, so how am I viewed as a trick? I was just having a drink and she was the one who approached me, told me i look just like her ex boyfriend and the way she was talking, it seemed like she wanted to get to know me...

[Chris in LA]

If you just want sex then pay her upfront for it.

It'd be cheaper and save time in the grand scheme.

Now if you want a relationship w/ the girl then take her on dates and get to know her. :shrug:

Well as much as i love sex, I've never just paid outright for it...i'm not knocking anybody that has, i guess i've just been lucky enough not to have to up until this point...

I prefer to get to know a girl b4 i have sex with her, it just helps if you have that vibe b4 intimacy for me...

But the more I think about it, I don't know if I could date somebody on the regular knowing she is a working girl...

[south ov da border]

Wait a minute, I didn't go on some working girl website and call her, so how am I viewed as a trick? I was just having a drink and she was the one who approached me, told me i look just like her ex boyfriend and the way she was talking, it seemed like she wanted to get to know me...

It's called game.:wiggle:

[Chris in LA]

aint nothing special about u, she only sees u as dollar signs, some dudes are easier to hustle and obviously you're one of them and they know it....

Huh?? How am I easier to hustle when I've never paid for booty in my life? You don't know me playa, I grew up out here, I may be new to this game, but I'm not a dude that is easy to hustle, I can assure you.

[AlwaysAda]

Wait a minute, I didn't go on some working girl website and call her, so how am I viewed as a trick? I was just having a drink and she was the one who approached me, told me i look just like her ex boyfriend and the way she was talking, it seemed like she wanted to get to know me...

She probably did.. untill you started showing other interest in another girl..

I must admit im the same way..if I dont have your full interest.. im not interested..

[gmercer]

What the hell are you asking us for, do you want a cost-benefit analysis on whether to date her or something? If you plan on dating her, and she doesn't feel like giving it up right away, you might end up spending more money up front until you get sex, and that's not even guaranteed, compared to seeing her professionally. However, if you continue dating, your cost per sexual encounter will decrease compared to her costs as pro. But remember, costs per sexual encounter increases exponentially over time should you decide to move in together and take the relationship to the next level.

[rockabilly]

Wait a minute, I didn't go on some working girl website and call her, so how am I viewed as a trick? I was just having a drink and she was the one who approached me, told me i look just like her ex boyfriend and the way she was talking, it seemed like she wanted to get to know me...

They sized you up the moment you walked through the door bro.

Fresh meat

[Chris in LA]

What the hell are you asking us for, do you want a cost-benefit analysis on whether to date her or something? If you plan on dating her, and she doesn't feel like giving it up right away, you might end up spending more money up front until you get sex, and that's not even guaranteed, compared to seeing her professionally. However, if you continue dating, your cost per sexual encounter will decrease compared to her costs as pro. But remember, costs per sexual encounter increases exponentially over time should you decide to move in together and take the relationship to the next level.

That's why I asked you gmercer! lol, that was a good answer!

[Chris in LA]

They sized you up the moment you walked through the door bro.

Fresh meat

I was thinking that...is that why the chanting of "fish, fish, fish" was ringing in the back of my head? :)

[Chris in LA]

She probably did.. untill you started showing other interest in another girl..

I must admit im the same way..if I dont have your full interest.. im not interested..

Hmmm...thats a good point, but after we exchanged #s, we parted ways, she was talking to other people and so was I...didn't think it mattered, but apparently it did.

[rockabilly]

I was thinking that...is that why the chanting of "fish, fish, fish" was ringing in the back of my head? :)

Yup , you just rang the dinner bell.

[Chris in LA]

Yup , you just rang the dinner bell.

SO, are all those girls in the club working then?

[rockabilly]

It's not fair to say all are working ... it could be their night off. lol

[south ov da border]

SO, are all those girls in the club working then?

a lot of them yea. If they aren't they still won't pass up an opportunity to get that guap...

[RubyTS]

oooh tough one!

ok, she obviously gave u her work name at first then decided she wanted to get to know u on a more personal level so gave u her real name (or another name so she could distinguish u from clients when u call... all the girls do it) And to see you hitting it off with another girl bothered her which means she actually was interested in u. in case u dont already know there is much competition and caddiness among ts girls, same as genetic females, they all wanna be #1!

To be honest, im not much into competition so the second u walked off with the other girl i would have realized ur not for me an blacklisted u, only because i want a guy that can recognize quality and see's me and only me, so ur actually kinda lucky that she even gave u the time of day after that, u must be pretty cute!

and u should have figured or at least prepared yourself for the possibility of her being a woring girl, most the girls that are in the scene ARE. But the fact that u even asked if you should just pay goes to show what it is u are looking for so go for it! thats y guys pay, to get what they want and avoid all the extra drama. Its pretty obvious u dont have a lot of experience with tgirls by your post, but once u become a trick to one of them u become a trick to all of them! If youre trying to avoid drama and not have girls flinging drinks and open palms at u i say just pay, get in your experience and then decide what it is that u want. No girl wants to be some guys experiment unless she's being compensated, and no girl wants a desperate tranny chaser bouncing from one girl to the next either so tred lightly, the scene can be pretty harsh to navigate

[rockabilly]

But seriously it's networking.

A girl comes to town has her ad up and or goes to some clubs to mingle.

[lovesall]

I would not get all excited for that you are seen as a trick already, so be prepard to pay up or move on.

[onmyknees]

Huh?? How am I easier to hustle when I've never paid for booty in my life? You don't know me playa, I grew up out here, I may be new to this game, but I'm not a dude that is easy to hustle, I can assure you.

Freddie's piker.. Pay him no mind....he's wrestling with his own sexual identity. He loves chics with dicks, but hates himself for doing so. Most all the gurls on here despise him, and most of the guys laugh at him...

[Chris in LA]

oooh tough one!

ok, she obviously gave u her work name at first then decided she wanted to get to know u on a more personal level so gave u her real name (or another name so she could distinguish u from clients when u call... all the girls do it) And to see you hitting it off with another girl bothered her which means she actually was interested in u. in case u dont already know there is much competition and caddiness among ts girls, same as genetic females, they all wanna be #1!

To be honest, im not much into competition so the second u walked off with the other girl i would have realized ur not for me an blacklisted u, only because i want a guy that can recognize quality and see's me and only me, so ur actually kinda lucky that she even gave u the time of day after that, u must be pretty cute!

and u should have figured or at least prepared yourself for the possibility of her being a woring girl, most the girls that are in the scene ARE. But the fact that u even asked if you should just pay goes to show what it is u are looking for so go for it! thats y guys pay, to get what they want and avoid all the extra drama. Its pretty obvious u dont have a lot of experience with tgirls by your post, but once u become a trick to one of them u become a trick to all of them! If youre trying to avoid drama and not have girls flinging drinks and open palms at u i say just pay, get in your experience and then decide what it is that u want. No girl wants to be some guys experiment unless she's being compensated, and no girl wants a desperate tranny chaser bouncing from one girl to the next either so tred lightly, the scene can be pretty harsh to navigate

Thanks for the advice...I am fairly new, but I just think of ts girls as any other girls, so I guess I was just caught off guard. But I don't want to pay because then I feel I can't get that stigma off if anybody else finds out. Of course, when I'm attracted to them, I want to have sex, who doesn't? But for me, I would rather get to know somebody before I put my penis in them...call me crazy!

But it wasn't like I walked away from her and started talking to any other girls...I was just walking around, talking to different people & then I had this other girl come up and we just hit it off. But I've been to many straight clubs over the years and used to get 4-5 #s a night and it wasn't a big deal...everybody talks to everybody & it wasn't like I just ignored her after that but she wound up leaving anyway.

By no means would I consider myself a chaser, like I said, I'm pretty shy and usually won't approach a girl anyway...but I also am not looking to just "experiment" I've been with a couple ts girls and loved it, again, I just view them as women so I guess I figured it would be simliar, although it does seem there is a bit more caddiness in this world.

[RubyTS]

Thanks for the advice...I am fairly new, but I just think of ts girls as any other girls, so I guess I was just caught off guard. But I don't want to pay because then I feel I can't get that stigma off if anybody else finds out. Of course, when I'm attracted to them, I want to have sex, who doesn't? But for me, I would rather get to know somebody before I put my penis in them...call me crazy!

But it wasn't like I walked away from her and started talking to any other girls...I was just walking around, talking to different people & then I had this other girl come up and we just hit it off. But I've been to many straight clubs over the years and used to get 4-5 #s a night and it wasn't a big deal...everybody talks to everybody & it wasn't like I just ignored her after that but she wound up leaving anyway.

By no means would I consider myself a chaser, like I said, I'm pretty shy and usually won't approach a girl anyway...but I also am not looking to just "experiment" I've been with a couple ts girls and loved it, again, I just view them as women so I guess I figured it would be simliar, although it does seem there is a bit more caddiness in this world.


there definitely is, i can never seem to get away from it hard as i try. i even see clients that tell me stuff like "dont tell her i saw u, she gets jealous" in reference to other escorts. it recently just happened with one of my regulars, i chose to stop seeing him after that. i dont have the time or the patience, plus it was just a HUGE turn off. ive lost a lot of "friends" to competition.

i think the main thing is to know what u want and be honest with them and yourself, and remain humble and down to earth. And try not to let the biullshit get the best of u. As long as ur doing whatever makes u happy without bringing anyone else down at the end of the day, ur good money =)

[onmyknees]

Hi all, thanx for reading, I am new here, but think this site is awesome! I've been reading posts and finally decided to sign up for an account and get your opinions.

So, I went to this club that has a ts night & thought I'd play it cool, just grab a drink and see what was up. There were quite a few hot ts girls there but I'm kind of shy so I don't usually approach girls, especially since my experience is somewhat limited, I've only hooked up with a couple ts girls that I've met online, so this going to the bar was a new deal for me.

I was surprised about how many ts girls were coming up and talking to me, it caught me off guard, but perhaps because I was the new guy, they wanted to see what I was all about. A couple of girls were smiling at me at the bar, but again, without a whole lot of experiences, and my unwillingness to approach them, I decided to walk around and check out the rest of the scene. Well, they followed me and asked me why I wasn't talking to them. I just laughed it off and had a nice conversation with one of them. After a few minutes, she asked to exchange #s, so we did-i called her on my cell so she could save my #...when I asked her what her name was, she told me one name, then said no, input this name instead...I was a little perplexed, but whatever....

About a half hour later, I was lucky enough to have one of the more attractive ts girls I've ever met strike up a conversation with me & we talked for almost an hour it seemed like. I wound up buying her a drink & we got along great. In the meantime, the girl I met b4 was frowning at me & then wound up storming out with her gf...I didn't realize we were dating already! lol

So I waited the standard 3 days to hit her up after, actually it might have been 4or 5 days later, haha, but I text her and she said she was mad at me. I asked why and she said I should know why, but whatever, we got past that and I wanted to know if I could get to know her better. I offered to bring over a bottle of wine so we could just relax and have good conversation to see if it was going to go anywhere.

She responded with something to the effect of "I don't know you well enough yet to have you over to my house...unless you are a customer. But if you want to treat me like a lady and take me out to a nice dinner then we can do that."

This threw me for a bit of a loop, cause I couldn't really understand how she didn't know me enough to have me over, but of course, if I was a paying customer, it would be no problem for her to invite me into her home.

Now, the girls I've met online and hooked up with were not "working" girls, so I never had to shell any $ out of pocket, although I did take one out to dinner and another one out to the movies, just like a normal date.

I didn't even know before her remarks that she was a working girl, but I'm glad she at least let me know. I text her back and told her I've never paid for ass & she responded with, well you can take me out to dinner then.

So, my question for y'all is, do I take her out to dinner and try to work that angle, like I've done in the past, or would it actually be cheaper to just pay her for her services? Which is the better investment?

Dude....That's a classic dilemma !!!!!! The gurls on here will probably tell you you're already marked, and that's probably true for the most part. But it's worth the price of a dinner just to play your hand and see how this develops or doesn't.
I have no idea what this gurl is like or what her motivation is. I have made friends with several escorts I see fairly regularly...Not friends like meeting her family at Christmas, LMAO.. but friendly enough to have lunch or dinner, or a ride along the beach on the back of one of my bikes. They have no problem or difficulty separating business from a friendly dinner, and I know right where I stand. I works well. There is an unspoken mutual respect. I don't need the fucking drama , and they're probably not looking for a steady dude.

I've stated on numerous occasions I have no problem paying for my vices. I get exactly what I want, when I want, and from whom. You watch...They'll be dudes who will from the safe seat behind their keyboards that will howl at that and tell you how they'd never pay for it. That their dick rap is so good they get their shit for gratis.. LMAO. With rare exception, I'm not buyin' it for a second.

My take for what it's worth ?? Take her to dinner see what kind of gurl you're dealing with. By the time you finish your first glass of wine....you should know !

[lisaparadise]

Freddie's piker.. Pay him no mind....he's wrestling with his own sexual identity. He loves chics with dicks, but hates himself for doing so. Most all the gurls on here despise him, and most of the guys laugh at him...wow i didnt know freddie had a brother,stupiditty must run in there family.

[Chris in LA]

wow i didnt know freddie had a brother,stupiditty must run in there family.

Huh? are you talking about me?

[Chris in LA]

Dude....That's a classic dilemma !!!!!! The gurls on here will probably tell you you're already marked, and that's probably true for the most part. But it's worth the price of a dinner just to play your hand and see how this develops or doesn't.
I have no idea what this gurl is like or what her motivation is. I have made friends with several escorts I see fairly regularly...Not friends like meeting her family at Christmas, LMAO.. but friendly enough to have lunch or dinner, or a ride along the beach on the back of one of my bikes. They have no problem or difficulty separating business from a friendly dinner, and I know right where I stand. I works well. There is an unspoken mutual respect. I don't need the fucking drama , and they're probably not looking for a steady dude.

I've stated on numerous occasions I have no problem paying for my vices. I get exactly what I want, when I want, and from whom. You watch...They'll be dudes who will from the safe seat behind their keyboards that will howl at that and tell you how they'd never pay for it. That their dick rap is so good they get their shit for gratis.. LMAO. With rare exception, I'm not buyin' it for a second.

My take for what it's worth ?? Take her to dinner see what kind of gurl you're dealing with. By the time you finish your first glass of wine....you should know !

I think I'm already over taking her out to dinner now...I think her true colors already shined through even though I made my intentions pretty clear. I wanted to get to know her, but she said I could skip all that if I was a customer...

I have no problem with anybody who works or anybody who pays, its just something that I don't want to do because what if I go back out after I meet somebody that I feel I can build something with, and then she finds out I paid for sex with an escort? Then somebody I really like is going to feel differently of me and probably not want a relationship if she found out.

[flabbybody]

your o/p said it was "ts night". that's code for working girls

[BeardedOne]

This can go so many ways and you're getting some good advice from the ladies here (And maybe 50/50 from the guys).

Folx here can tell you that I'm not one to give dating and relationship advice. Decades down the line and more than a hundred partners/lovers under the bridge (Hmm...That didn't come out quite right) and it's pretty clear that I'm not getting the formula correct in the 'normal' routes. So I, for one, will vote the commercial as opposed to the traditional path and, in my experience (And I'm very good with number$) it's proven more economical.


i even see clients that tell me stuff like "dont tell her i saw u, she gets jealous" in reference to other escorts

At the other end of the spectrum I am the guy that asks for references and introductions to other ladies. :) That's primarily because I am of a poly mindset and have run in micro-cultures where plural relationships are more the norm than the exception. Though it does beg the question: If the Chinese ideogram for 'trouble' is the representation of two women under one roof then what would the word be represented by two transwomen under one roof? :screwy

[NYBURBS]

Hi all, thanx for reading, I am new here, but think this site is awesome! I've been reading posts and finally decided to sign up for an account and get your opinions.

So I waited the standard 3 days to hit her up after, actually it might have been 4or 5 days later, haha, but I text her and she said she was mad at me. I asked why and she said I should know why, but whatever, we got past that and I wanted to know if I could get to know her better. I offered to bring over a bottle of wine so we could just relax and have good conversation to see if it was going to go anywhere.

She responded with something to the effect of "I don't know you well enough yet to have you over to my house...unless you are a customer. But if you want to treat me like a lady and take me out to a nice dinner then we can do that."

This threw me for a bit of a loop, cause I couldn't really understand how she didn't know me enough to have me over, but of course, if I was a paying customer, it would be no problem for her to invite me into her home.

Now, the girls I've met online and hooked up with were not "working" girls, so I never had to shell any $ out of pocket, although I did take one out to dinner and another one out to the movies, just like a normal date.

I didn't even know before her remarks that she was a working girl, but I'm glad she at least let me know. I text her back and told her I've never paid for ass & she responded with, well you can take me out to dinner then.

So, my question for y'all is, do I take her out to dinner and try to work that angle, like I've done in the past, or would it actually be cheaper to just pay her for her services? Which is the better investment?

Look, a lot of guys just want to have sex with these girls and then act like they don't know them. They won't be seen in public with them, and converse with them only as they get dressed to leave after the sex. Think about it, they can get sex whenever they want (if they are half way decent looking), but what a lot of them want (on a personal level) is for someone to treat them like they would any woman they ask out for a date.

Obviously she wants something more than just sex, or in the alternative she wants to at least make money off of it. If you just want to screw then pony up the cash and leave it at that. Taking her out a couple of times might end up being more money, and fucking with someone's head is bad karma. Just my two cents.

[Chris in LA]

Though it does beg the question: If the Chinese ideogram for 'trouble' is the representation of two women under one roof then what would the word be represented by two transwomen under one roof? :screwy

LMAO, I guess MAJOR TROUBLE!!!

[Chris in LA]

Look, a lot of guys just want to have sex with these girls and then act like they don't know them. They won't be seen in public with them, and converse with them only as they get dressed to leave after the sex. Think about it, they can get sex whenever they want (if they are half way decent looking), but what a lot of them want (on a personal level) is for someone to treat them like they would any woman they ask out for a date.

Obviously she wants something more than just sex, or in the alternative she wants to at least make money off of it. If you just want to screw then pony up the cash and leave it at that. Taking her out a couple of times might end up being more money, and fucking with someone's head is bad karma. Just my two cents.

You make some good points here. I don't mind being seen in public with them, like I said I've been out on dates with a couple ts girls before, dinners & movies, so that's not my issue.

These women go through a lot in their lives & I really can respect that but again, I just don't know how dating a girl who is an escort can turn in to a long term relationship. I think I will leave this particular girl alone & see if my luck continues through other online methods.

[south ov da border]

in the end it's what do you want . If you want to pursue it then you must be willing to deal with her on HER level. Escorts are regular people too, so you have to understand what it is she does does not define her.

[nsagent]

She's just like any other girl, ignore her client talk and proceed as you were. She'll get over the talking to another girl.

[partlycloudy]

you should hang out with t$420...

[yodajazz]

What the hell are you asking us for, do you want a cost-benefit analysis on whether to date her or something? If you plan on dating her, and she doesn't feel like giving it up right away, you might end up spending more money up front until you get sex, and that's not even guaranteed, compared to seeing her professionally. However, if you continue dating, your cost per sexual encounter will decrease compared to her costs as pro. But remember, costs per sexual encounter increases exponentially over time should you decide to move in together and take the relationship to the next level.

Thank you much, for your math analysis. This explains everything. Now I understand, why I'm paying about $5,000 a hit. Whereas I started out getting it free along with a free home cooked meal. And now along with my five grand, I have to bring her some take out food.

[NYBURBS]

You make some good points here. I don't mind being seen in public with them, like I said I've been out on dates with a couple ts girls before, dinners & movies, so that's not my issue.

These women go through a lot in their lives & I really can respect that but again, I just don't know how dating a girl who is an escort can turn in to a long term relationship. I think I will leave this particular girl alone & see if my luck continues through other online methods.

Bro, I can totally understand the whole 'I'm not gonna date an escort,' but then you should just leave it be imo (which you already mentioned).

[yodajazz]

What the hell are you asking us for, do you want a cost-benefit analysis on whether to date her or something? If you plan on dating her, and she doesn't feel like giving it up right away, you might end up spending more money up front until you get sex, and that's not even guaranteed, compared to seeing her professionally. However, if you continue dating, your cost per sexual encounter will decrease compared to her costs as pro. But remember, costs per sexual encounter increases exponentially over time should you decide to move in together and take the relationship to the next level.

Thank you much, for your math analysis. This explains everything. Now I understand, why I'm paying about $5,000 a hit. Whereas I started out getting it free along with a free home cooked meal. Now along with my five grand, I have to bring her some take out food.


Look, a lot of guys just want to have sex with these girls and then act like they don't know them. They won't be seen in public with them, and converse with them only as they get dressed to leave after the sex. Think about it, they can get sex whenever they want (if they are half way decent looking), but what a lot of them want (on a personal level) is for someone to treat them like they would any woman they ask out for a date.

Obviously she wants something more than just sex, or in the alternative she wants to at least make money off of it. If you just want to screw then pony up the cash and leave it at that. Taking her out a couple of times might end up being more money, and fucking with someone's head is bad karma. Just my two cents.

I'm with NYBURBS on this. Take her out. She could be checking you out for boyfriend material. It could be a slow buildup to a fantastic night. The best possible thing, could be that you figure out that she is crazy, and you dont want to be bothered with her. You could be put on the waiting list. that you may get that call when she is in heat. Lots of possible scenarios, if your really interested. But be honest with yourself, with what you really want. If your life is already complicated, then go for the pro service, to keep things simple.

[Chris in LA]

I'm with NYBURBS on this. Take her out. She could be checking you out for boyfriend material. It could be a slow buildup to a fantastic night. The best possible thing, could be that you figure out that she is crazy, and you dont want to be bothered with her. You could be put on the waiting list. that you may get that call when she is in heat. Lots of possible scenarios, if your really interested. But be honest with yourself, with what you really want. If your life is already complicated, then go for the pro service, to keep things simple.


Yeah, she could be, but I don't know if its worth it, being that she is an escort and all...I mean, I'm not just about fucking a girl to fuck her, I would rather get to know her & build on something if its worth it & I don't know if that's possible with her work. I'm not really down to be on the waiting list although late night booty calls can be fun, lol. I think I better just let this one slide and hope I can find a girl that is open to a relationship who is not an escort.

[Chris in LA]

Bro, I can totally understand the whole 'I'm not gonna date an escort,' but then you should just leave it be imo (which you already mentioned).

Yep, think that's what I'm gonna do.

[Chris in LA]

you should hang out with t$420...

Who? Why is that?

[Chris in LA]

She's just like any other girl, ignore her client talk and proceed as you were. She'll get over the talking to another girl.

You would think, right? Seeing that she has sex for a living, looking back on it, I don't know why she would be jealous that I was talking to another girl, but like a few of the girls on here mentioned, apparently there is competition like crazy out there!

[Chris in LA]

in the end it's what do you want . If you want to pursue it then you must be willing to deal with her on HER level. Escorts are regular people too, so you have to understand what it is she does does not define her.

I agree, we are all just people. I just don't know if I can handle dating a girl who does that for a living. I mean, if I start to get feelings, Im not sure if I could handle that.

[ARMANIXXX]

I agree, we are all just people. I just don't know if I can handle dating a girl who does that for a living. I mean, if I start to get feelings, Im not sure if I could handle that.

Lots of TS's in LA.....go for a different one if you're not feeling this one.

Out of curiosity, what club was it, Chris in LA?

[Chris in LA]

Lots of TS's in LA.....go for a different one if you're not feeling this one.

Out of curiosity, what club was it, Chris in LA?

I think it was called the Palms?? I went on a friday, I think that is their only ts night, but I could be wrong.

[BigDF]

Why is this such a dilemma for you? It's a fairly reasonable choice you're being offered, either treat her like someone you want to get to know and date or purchase her sexual favors. I can tell you right now, if you like intimacy and a relationship, the former is the way to go. As Ruby said, if she gives you her dating name, she's interested in you as a man, not a trick. As far as being able to tell who's working and who isn't, you're probably going to just have to stumble on through it like the rest of us. Your best bet would be to follow the golden rule and treat people the way you'd like to be treated.

[giovanni_hotel]

LOL trannies are crazy.. and this shit is the reason why... give her all your money... =)

LOL!!

She's giving the 'signs' that's she's a headcase and a hoe4life!! You didn't even approach her on that level, but she ONLY saw you as a trick!!

If you only wanna fucc her, pay the dime and keep it moving. But clearly this girl isn't relationship material on any level.

It's sad that some girls fucc up their own shit without even knowing it. I bet you're the kind of dude who would willingly have spent more money on this chick in an informal way as you would for any casual GF, but she only sees that one time payoff.

Not all these girls are crazy IMO, but there is a LOT of crazy out there in the trans-community.
Keep your wallet in your front pocket, Don Juan.

[fred41]

LOL!!

She's giving the 'signs' that's she's a headcase and a hoe4life!! You didn't even approach her on that level, but she ONLY saw you as a trick!!

If you only wanna fucc her, pay the dime and keep it moving. But clearly this girl isn't relationship material on any level.

It's sad that some girls fucc up their own shit without even knowing it. I bet you're the kind of dude who would willingly have spent more money on this chick in an informal way as you would for any casual GF, but she only sees that one time payoff.

Not all these girls are crazy IMO, but there is a LOT of crazy out there in the trans-community.
Keep your wallet in your front pocket, Don Juan.

I think you might have over thought this one just a bit. Most people don't go to the "TS Bar" looking for relationship material...for the most part it's just not that kind of dynamic. If it happens it happens.

[giovanni_hotel]

Where else are you gonna go in town to meet TGs?? At the bar.

And the OP didn't approach her like she was a trick, so why treat him like a john?? Regardless, she's sounds mental.

If she was working that evening, she should have put it out there up front, that she was going to charge him for the privilege.

[fred41]

Where else are you gonna go in town to meet TGs?? At the bar.

And the OP didn't approach her like she was a trick, so why treat him like a john?? Regardless, she's sounds mental.

If she was working that evening, she should have put it out there up front, that she was going to charge him for the privilege.

A "TSBar" isn't just any bar...and I'm pretty sure you know this. It's like someone once said "You don't go to a topless bar looking for a date". Sure, the possibility is always there...it happens to plenty of guys...but that isn't the main purpose for the establishment and the people that work there. Chris is from LA,,,there are lots of regular bars and clubs that have TS...just like New York...in New York it's some of the gay bars that feature drag shows...some of the big dance clubs like Pacha...etc.This is where the girls go in their free time just to have fun (and yes, they shop too like any other young woman)...you know-just like everybody else.

The easiest route is the route he took...but you can't go there thinking that the majority of girls there aren't working...sure some are there for the goof...but not "the majority" and even some of the girls there just for the goof probably work but are just off that night.She probably figured he knew this, or maybe at least certainly understood that the chance of her being an escort was very high.

Besides...she was "second choice' that night why shouldn't she be the slightest bit insulted?

Ruby was spot on...she was interested in him. She gave him her real name...she had to get back to work. It's how she pays her rent. Do you stop working on your job just because someone caught your eye? No...people have jobs to make money..to pay bills and eat. Even if she didn't leave with a client...she's networking..getting numbers.

..and no one with any class approaches a girl like a "trick"...even if that's the purpose of the approach.So that doesn't mean anything either.

[Chris in LA]

I'm really glad I didn't pursue her now...

[dderek123]

I was surprised about how many ts girls were coming up and talking to me, it caught me off guard, but perhaps because I was the new guy, they wanted to see what I was all about. A couple of girls were smiling at me at the bar, but again, without a whole lot of experiences, and my unwillingness to approach them, I decided to walk around and check out the rest of the scene.

Uh, earth-to-Chris, they were all prostitutes!


So, my question for y'all is, do I take her out to dinner and try to work that angle, like I've done in the past, or would it actually be cheaper to just pay her for her services? Which is the better investment?

Depends on what you're looking for.

If you just want to have a good time. Pay her.

If you are looking for a relationship (or can see yourself looking for one in the new future), just move on. Don't be friends, AOL chat buddies nor acquaintances. The lady is working so let her work.