Ts who retire to poverty,obscurity or......

[natina]

my friend who was working at a strip club in stealth told me" I am going to retire."

my thought was retire to what? poverty! its not like you get a pension or retirement benefits or you were paying into ssi or something.


well I seen my ts friend who was passable enough to work at a strip club's with all GG'S.now my friend works at a Gay hotel cleaning rooms. I seen my friend at the Halloween parade ,when I was told.


I have another friend who still does porn
under the name granny tranny
Caucasian ,tall and a producer of TS PORN


another one of my friends would never see black guys until just recently when the beauty faded because of age and the money dried up.they still make a nice amount but not enough to pay for all those expensive surgeries.will now see anyone that calls. I seen the ad's and the new photo's and new identity


SO WHAT WILL YOU DO WHEN ITS CLOSE TO RETIREMENT AGE?

[bridgetbbyxo]

I'm currently enrolled in school to get my LVN certification, then after i have that apply to the LVN-to-RN program to get my degree in Nursing... I just turned 21 this month... so i think i shouldnt be too well off by the time retirement comes around..

[PomonaCA]

This is a serious issue but it's a question that crosses my mind from time to time.

How does a girl know if she's a tranny? What if she's just a maladjusted boy chasing a fantasy? It's like an ultimate gamble for you girls. If you're a tranny, you better make damn sure you're right because this is life and death. With so many girls blowing their brains out, it's a topic that needs consideration without pointing the finger at "society".

It should be a Maury topic- "Are you sure you're a tranny?"

That would be a great topic. Imagine some dude getting on stage and his family trying to talk him out of it.

If Maury does do a show like that, let me know because that motherfucking no-talent will owe me some money for my brilliant idea.

[NYTSJulie]

This is a serious issue but it's a question that crosses my mind from time to time.

How does a girl know if she's a tranny? What if she's just a maladjusted boy chasing a fantasy? It's like an ultimate gamble for you girls. If you're a tranny, you better make damn sure you're right because this is life and death. With so many girls blowing their brains out, it's a topic that needs consideration without pointing the finger at "society".

It should be a Maury topic- "Are you sure you're a tranny?"

That would be a great topic. Imagine some dude getting on stage and his family trying to talk him out of it.

If Maury does do a show like that, let me know because that motherfucking no-talent will owe me some money for my brilliant idea.

No one is going to go to the extent of becoming transsexual because they think it sounds fun. To transition takes steps, you dont just walk in the doctors office one day as a man then out the next day as a woman. Its hard work, you loose things, and in the begining no one is passable and they will get made fun of, it takes a lot to pull it off, and if your able to pull it off then that in its own is the test.

[PomonaCA]

No one is going to go to the extent of becoming transsexual because they think it sounds fun. To transition takes steps, you dont just walk in the doctors office one day as a man then out the next day as a woman. Its hard work, you loose things, and in the begining no one is passable and they will get made fun of, it takes a lot to pull it off, and if your able to pull it off then that in its own is the test.


That's like saying that no one walks into a bar thinking they'll become an alcoholic. How do you KNOW you're right? Think about the many girls who ended up deciding that they weren't girls afterall. And then the ones who gave themselves a shotgun mouthwash after realizing that being a tranny wasn't all it was cracked up to be.

Lisa Lawer is a good example. Dude KNEW he was a tranny and then thought better of it later on. How do you know you won't be the same?

[NYTSJulie]

That's like saying that no one walks into a bar thinking they'll become an alcoholic. How do you KNOW you're right? Think about the many girls who ended up deciding that they weren't girls afterall. And then the ones who gave themselves a shotgun mouthwash after realizing that being a tranny wasn't all it was cracked up to be.

Lisa Lawer is a good example. Dude KNEW he was a tranny and then thought better of it later on. How do you know you won't be the same?

Yes I know because its me I am a tranny you are not. No one is going to go thru a real transition unless they are trans. They might play dress up and pump a little silicone in their body, but to become a real transsexual is work, from surgery to legal stuff, to mental...ect. I think maybe girls get depressed and might kill themselves due to that. Because the life of a transsexual can be depressing, there is no place in society for an open TS, sad but its true. So unless a girl cab blend into society she is going to have a hard life.

[Jackal]

well, not all TS are in porn/stripping/etc., some have "typical jobs" although they often are met with unfair discrimination.

[Odelay]

That's like saying that no one walks into a bar thinking they'll become an alcoholic. How do you KNOW you're right? Think about the many girls who ended up deciding that they weren't girls afterall. And then the ones who gave themselves a shotgun mouthwash after realizing that being a tranny wasn't all it was cracked up to be.

Lisa Lawer is a good example. Dude KNEW he was a tranny and then thought better of it later on. How do you know you won't be the same?

Don't mean to go all phobun or anything but what the fuck does a guy know about these issues or why is he even offering an opinion? Get a clue, dude. Your alcohol metaphor is lame, and obviously you have hard on for guns.

[PomonaCA]

Yes I know because its me I am a tranny you are not. No one is going to go thru a real transition unless they are trans. They might play dress up and pump a little silicone in their body, but to become a real transsexual is work, from surgery to legal stuff, to mental...ect. I think maybe girls get depressed and might kill themselves due to that. Because the life of a transsexual can be depressing, there is no place in society for an open TS, sad but its true. So unless a girl cab blend into society she is going to have a hard life.


I'm not talking about "becoming a transsexual" because transsexualism is a state into which you are born..... it's not something you "become". Which leads me to question your logic on transsexualism but that's another thread.

And sure, the life of a transsexual can be depressing and IT'S SOCIETIES FAULT! Right? LOL.

Let's get real. Think about girls that you know who were allegedly trannies today, not trannies tomorrow. I admire the strength it takes for you girls to follow your heart at the cost of being ostracized from your family, friends et al. But I will openly mock the ones who are just masquerading as trannies just to be attractive to normal men. I will mock them and mock them HARD.

[NYTSJulie]

I'm not talking about "becoming a transsexual" because transsexualism is a state into which you are born..... it's not something you "become". Which leads me to question your logic on transsexualism but that's another thread.

And sure, the life of a transsexual can be depressing and IT'S SOCIETIES FAULT! Right? LOL.

Let's get real. Think about girls that you know who were allegedly trannies today, not trannies tomorrow. I admire the strength it takes for you girls to follow your heart at the cost of being ostracized from your family, friends et al. But I will openly mock the ones who are just masquerading as trannies just to be attractive to normal men. I will mock them and mock them HARD.

Dude do you know how dumb you sound. Its like me getting into a fight with a black person and me tell them what its like to be black, lol.

Now sit down and you might learn something, people become transsexual, the word transsexual is a physical state of, and people become transsexual due to the clinical term and medical definition called “gender dysphoria”, so if you want to use terms then make sure you use the right ones. I am not the one you want to have a battle of the mind with, because I will dance circles around you.

[PomonaCA]

Its like me getting into a fight with a black person and me tell them what its like to be black, lol.


I know you love new york but you can't be so stupid as to believe your own bullshit. Negros are born black, whereas you claim that transsexuals aren't born and that transsexualism is simply an acquired state of mind.

Unless you're going to tell me what it's like to be black lol

[NYTSJulie]

I know you love new york but you can't be so stupid as to believe your own bullshit. Negros are born black, whereas you claim that transsexuals aren't born and that transsexualism is simply an acquired state of mind.

Unless you're going to tell me what it's like to be black lol

Ok let me break it down in a simple way, for the simple minds.....I never said that transsexualism is an acquired state of mind, I said the word transsexual is a physical state of being when someone transitions, and what causes them to transition is being gender dysphoric, and that is something you are born with.

My reference to black, is because you are sitting here trying to educate me on something I am and something you’re not. Since we are chatting about nurture vers nature, what made you become a trick, I mean what leads a “normal” male into a forum called “HungAngels”?

[PomonaCA]

Ok let me break it down in a simple way, for the simple minds.....I never said that transsexualism is an acquired state of mind, I said the word transsexual is a physical state of being when someone transitions, and what causes them to transition is being gender dysphoric, and that is something you are born with.

My reference to black, is because you are sitting here trying to educate me on something I am and something you’re not. Since we are chatting about nurture vers nature, what made you become a trick, I mean what leads a “normal” male into a forum called “HungAngels”?

I like to fuck the weak. And you are the weak. I'm sleepy now so I'll disrespect your thinking tomorrow. G'night.

[NYTSJulie]

I like to fuck the weak. And you are the weak. I'm sleepy now so I'll disrespect your thinking tomorrow. G'night.

Hun, I am far from weak in any way, mentally or physically. I thrive on confrontation and I do not back down. You have some twisted mind, I wonder what went on in your childhood home, did daddy fuck your weak little boy ass so now you want to try and be dominate in search of power trying to reclaim yourself lol, what a looney tunes? Darling your the weak one, in complete mental madness, and that is a weak state. Wishing you well and wishing god brings the right medication into your life.......smooches

[phobun]

I'm currently enrolled in school to get my LVN certification, then after i have that apply to the LVN-to-RN program to get my degree in Nursing... I just turned 21 this month... so i think i shouldnt be too well off by the time retirement comes around..


Good for you, you'll do well for yourself in life.

[SXFX]

If she has a clean record and an associates?
Go work for the state at the DMV

[onmyknees]

I like to fuck the weak. And you are the weak. I'm sleepy now so I'll disrespect your thinking tomorrow. G'night.

Hey...maybe you won't wake up having ingested too may sleeping pills, and we'll all have a fucking fucking party for you ....in absentia . Could we be so fucking lucky ?

Julie...I love to take a point I believe in and argue it and defend it...but that's not what's happening here. Thid cat is off his meds...leave it be.

[Silcc69]

I'm currently enrolled in school to get my LVN certification, then after i have that apply to the LVN-to-RN program to get my degree in Nursing... I just turned 21 this month... so i think i shouldnt be too well off by the time retirement comes around..

And we all call this

http://www.layoutlocator.com/graphics/dldimg/4bbac85d565ef4fda4ececa2be8f481d_5b78e2d94e09dc999 335a3292c10bbdd.jpg

[nonnonnon]

I've heard of de-transitioning which can be difficult depending on how much you've done

[CORVETTEDUDE]

All of you retiring ladies are welcome to come live with me. The white sands of Pensacola Beach are a great place to "Just Take It Easy."

[PomonaCA]

Hun, I am far from weak in any way, mentally or physically. I thrive on confrontation and I do not back down. You have some twisted mind, I wonder what went on in your childhood home, did daddy fuck your weak little boy ass so now you want to try and be dominate in search of power trying to reclaim yourself lol, what a looney tunes? Darling your the weak one, in complete mental madness, and that is a weak state. Wishing you well and wishing god brings the right medication into your life.......smooches

If you like confrontation that's your thing but that doesn't make you a strong person.. in fact, it makes you pretty stupid.

[Schimmel]

my friend who was working at a strip club in stealth told me" I am going to retire."

my thought was retire to what? poverty! its not like you get a pension or retirement benefits or you were paying into ssi or something.


well I seen my ts friend who was passable enough to work at a strip club's with all GG'S.now my friend works at a Gay hotel cleaning rooms. I seen my friend at the Halloween parade ,when I was told.


I have another friend who still does porn
under the name granny tranny
Caucasian ,tall and a producer of TS PORN


another one of my friends would never see black guys until just recently when the beauty faded because of age and the money dried up.they still make a nice amount but not enough to pay for all those expensive surgeries.will now see anyone that calls. I seen the ad's and the new photo's and new identity


SO WHAT WILL YOU DO WHEN ITS CLOSE TO RETIREMENT AGE?



Only slimy black dudes will stick around to try to take advantage sexually (and otherwise) of a washed up tranny.

[phobun]

All of you retiring ladies are welcome to come live with me. The white sands of Pensacola Beach are a great place to "Just Take It Easy."


The Redneck Riviera must be a great place to settle down if you're a transsexual woman.

Bubbas, BBQ'd roadkill and a nice trailer to call home. Listen to the skeeters getting zapped on the porch. Oil tar on the white sands. Lovely.

[natina]

now that was a racist TROLL POST BY Schimmel



Only slimy black dudes will stick around to try to take advantage sexually (and otherwise) of a washed up tranny.



shit this thread blew up when I was gone

I take it that it struck a nerve

[Silcc69]

Only slimy black dudes will stick around to try to take advantage sexually (and otherwise) of a washed up tranny.

Proof please

[TsVanessa69]

Proof please
this dude is an asswipe.
he just went thru threads posting dumb shit

[phobun]

Only slimy black dudes will stick around to try to take advantage sexually (and otherwise) of a washed up tranny.


You're not a very good troll.

[NYTSJulie]

If you like confrontation that's your thing but that doesn't make you a strong person.. in fact, it makes you pretty stupid.

Yes, being able to handle confrontation with the mind and intellect and remaining in total control does make someone strong, all the while remaining calm and laughing.

This coming from a man that says he enjoys transsexuals because he likes to "fuck the weak".... kinda like a serial rapist, very strange and disturbed.... unfortunately there are few mental hospitals left, as there existence changed once psychiatric drugs were introduced, I pray for your sake the right medication enters your life.

[innocentbychoice]

I'm currently enrolled in school to get my LVN certification, then after i have that apply to the LVN-to-RN program to get my degree in Nursing... I just turned 21 this month... so i think i shouldnt be too well off by the time retirement comes around..

Good for you Bridget. Congrats.

[natina]

SOME TS are in trouble

retirement age is dawning and they still have not made a dollar


masquerading is a crime

http://www.hungangels.com/board/viewtopic.php?p=837455


http://www.hungangels.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=53856

http://www.hungangels.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=47185&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=ugly+nicole&start=10

http://www.hungangels.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=53856&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=ugly+nicole&start=10





http://www.hungangels.com/board/files/nicole_dupree_122.jpg


most people say that A TS/TG is just a man with boobs or a man with silicone pumped in there butt,cheeks ,hips,breast,chest,chin.

many here or HOMOPHOBIC ,HOMOSEXUALS.

most people say that A TS/TG is just a feminine man or a male that wants to be a girl.


many do not draw a distinct line between a TS or a TG or a CD or a TV or a DRAG QUEEN.

as far as many people or concerned all ts,tg,tv,cd,tv,dq are men

as far as many people or concerned all ts,tg,tv,cd,tv,dq are men in disguise.


there is a law on the books forbidden you to masquerade

http://www.sanfranciscosentinel.com/?p=80102

First Run Features presents STONEWALL UPRISING, opening its regular theatrical engagements starting Friday, July 9, 2010 at Landmark’s Lumiere Theatre (http://maps.google.com/maps/place?client=safari&rls=en&oe=UTF-8&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=Lumiere+Theater,+San+Francisco&fb=1&gl=us&hq=Lumiere+Theater,&hnear=San+Francisco,+CA&cid=15876023531982821605) in San Francisco, and Landmark’s Shattuck Cinemas (http://maps.google.com/maps/place?client=safari&rls=en&oe=UTF-8&um=1&ie=UTF-8&q=Shattuck+Cinemas,+Berkeley,&fb=1&gl=us&hq=Shattuck+Cinemas,&hnear=Berkeley,+CA&cid=4908582216974332018) in Berkeley. The film was also screened last month as part of the Frameline34, 2010 San Francisco International LGBT Film Festival. STONEWALL UPRISING recounts the dramatic event that launched a movement whose impact has deeply affected the course of the human rights struggle. Told by those who took part—from drag queens and street hustlers to police detectives, journalists, and a former mayor of New York—and featuring a rich trove of archival footage, the film revisits a time when homosexual acts were illegal throughout America, and homosexuality itself was seen as a form of mental illness. Hunted and often entrapped by undercover police in their hometowns, gays from around the U.S. began fleeing to New York in search of a sanctuary. Hounded there still by an aggressive police force, they found a semblance of normalcy in a Mafia-run gay bar in Greenwich Village, the Stonewall Inn. When police raided Stonewall on June 28, 1969, gay men and women did something they hadn’t done before: they fought back. As the streets of New York erupted into violent protests and street demonstrations, the collective anger announced that the gay rights movement had arrived.

http://www.sanfranciscosentinel.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/drags1.jpg
October 26, 1962, NYC. Dozens of “Queers” locked up on charges of masquerading and indecent exposure
at the National Variety Artists Exotic Carnival and Ball, held at the Manhattan Center.
Police and detectives herd the costumed guests into police wagons in front of the hall.
Photo, Bettmann/CORBIS
http://www.sanfranciscosentinel.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/stonewall.jpg
STONEWALL UPRISING.
A treasure-trove of archival footage gives life to this all-too-recent reality, a time when Mike Wallace announced on a 1966 CBS Reports: “The average homosexual, if there be such, is promiscuous. He is not interested in, nor capable of, a lasting relationship like that of a heterosexual marriage.” At the height of this oppression, the cops raid Stonewall, triggering nights of pandemonium with tear gas, billy clubs and a small army of tactical police. The rest is history.

http://www.sanfranciscosentinel.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/stonewall-inn.jpg
Stonewall Bar, July 2, 1969. Disturbance on Sheridan Square, NYC.
Scenes at Christopher Street & 7th Avenue South with police trying to clear crowds.
Photo, Larry Morris, NY Times
Kate Davis and David Heilbroner have been producing award-winning documentaries for 15 years. They co-directed STONEWALL UPRISING, the first non-fiction film to tell the story of the Stonewall riots by the participants. Their film, Scopes: The Battle Over America’s Soul (History Channel, 2006), was part of Ten Days Which Unexpectedly Changed America, which won the Emmy® for Best Non Fiction Series in 2006. Jockey (HBO, 2004), was nominated for 3 Emmys and won the Emmy Award for Best Non-Fiction Directing. Pucker Up: The Fine Art of Whistling (2004), was broadcast worldwide and had a limited US theatrical release. They also produced Diagnosis Bipolar (2010) and Plastic Disasters (2006) for HBO, and numerous social justice films including Anti-Gay Hate Crimes (A&E Networks, 1998) and Transgender Revolution (A&E Networks, 1999)

http://www.sanfranciscosentinel.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/07/picture-4.jpg
NYC police push back a crowd gathered near the Stonewall Inn.
Photo, NY Daily News


Stonewall Uprising (American Experience Series). DVD. 82 min. with tchr's. guide online. Prod. by WGBH. Dist. by PBS Dist. 2011. ISBN 978-0-3123-4269-2. $24.99.
Gr 9 Up—"In 1969, homosexual acts were illegal in every state except Illinois." With that statement, this film, based on David Carter's Stonewall: The Riots That Sparked the Gay Revolution (St. Martin's Press, 2004), sets the stage for a drama that culminates with the birth of the modern Gay Pride movement. Forty years ago, the idea of being "out and proud" was inconceivable to the men and women-some of them teenagers themselves in the late 1960s-who share their recollections in interviews. Homosexuality was classified as a mental illness. Laws against "lewd conduct" and "masquerading" were used to persecute those who dared to gather at the Mafia-run "gay bars." Despite this, GLBT people who had watched or participated in civil rights campaigns began forming their own "homophile movement" and connecting through groups like the Mattachine Society and the Daughters of Bilitis. After months of escalating crack-downs and arrests, when six police officers were sent to raid the Stonewall Inn in New York City's Greenwich Village in June 1969, they found themselves outnumbered. Instead of meekly submitting, the bar's patrons fought back, and they were quickly joined by a crowd of thousands outside. The riots were followed by what would become known as the first Gay Pride parade. Directors Kate Davis and David Heilbroner interweave archival footage from news coverage and educational films produced in the 1950s and 1960s with contemporary interviews of actual participants. Former Mayor Ed Koch, author Eric Marcus, and law professor William Eskridge provide historical information to set the events in context. The primary source materials, interviewee biographies, teacher's guide, and more supporting resources are available online. Highly recommended for school and public libraries.—Beth Gallego, Los Angeles Public Library, CA
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http://www.libraryjournal.com/slj/home/891528-312/stonewall_uprising_.html.csp


he could of been arrested

Oakland Atlanta Georgia calif

http://www.myhusbandbetty.com/2010/05/05/crossdressing-still-illegal/

http://oaklandlocal.com/article/cross-dressing-illegal-oakland-1879

http://oaklandlocal.com/article/cross-dressing-illegal-oakland-1879


Crossdressing Still Illegal?

Who knew? Crossdressing is still illegal in Oakland, California, & has been for 130 years.

“These laws have a history of being used as a tool of oppression,” have been “an excuse for persecution” against the LGBT community and people who don’t conform to traditional gender rolls.


In Oakland, the cross-dressing ordinance is not enforced and hasn’t been in recent memory. City officials also believe it is unconstitutional. But a report from Kaplan’s office noted that under the existing language, women in uniform working in the police and fire departments could be subject to arrest and misdemeanor charges.

Attention divas, daggers, dykes, sissies and studs: sashay shante, y’all. According to Oakland's Code of Ordinances, your style is illegal.

Immoral Dress Code 9.08.080 has been in place since 1879: “It is unlawful for any person in the city to appear in any public place nude or in the attire of a person of the opposite sex, or in any indecent or lewd attire.”

Yet shockingly, in 2010, cross-dressing remains an offense “against public peace and decency.”


“People who were not perceived to be part of the social ‘norm’ were marginalized and criminalized,” said McLeod. “Everyone is affected by this, not just queer people. If this law was enforced today, all the women on the police and fire departments could be charged with a misdemeanor for cross-dressing.”


HOMOPHOBIC GAYS and the difference between a TS & a CD/TV/DQ
1845 statute prohibiting cross-dressing. As originally enacted, the New York statute made it a crime to assemble “disguised” in public places

an arrestable offence
the 1845 statute that made it a crime in the state to masquerade

[natina]

Attention divas, daggers, dykes, sissies and studs: sashay shante, y’all. According to Oakland's Code of Ordinances (http://library.municode.com/html/16308/Book.html), your style is illegal.

Immoral Dress Code 9.08.080 has been in place since 1879: “It is unlawful for any person in the city to appear in any public place nude or in the attire of a person of the opposite sex, or in any indecent or lewd attire.”
In terms of concentration of same sex couples, Oakland is ranked among the top five major metropolitan areas in the nation. Certainly our city is as socially conscious as it is diverse. Yet shockingly, in 2010, cross-dressing remains an offense “against public peace and decency.”
I first learned of this wacky time warp while attending an Oakland LGBT Roundtable (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Oakland-LGBT-Roundtable/121063566660) meeting. Stephanie McLeod, pictured above,an intern with City Council Member Rebecca Kaplan’s (http://www.rkaplan.org/) office, created a slide show presentation which contextualized the ordinance.
The civil war ended and the 15th amendment was ratified. Population explosions accompanied the gold rush and the transcontinental railroad; the latter saw Oakland grow from 1,500 people in 1860 to more than 36,000 in 1880. As the railroad’s western terminus, Oakland experienced a rush of new businesses, new manufacturing industries and new jobs. Migrants from the south, and immigrants from China and Southern Europe, changed the demographics of the area.
“People who were not perceived to be part of the social ‘norm’ were marginalized and criminalized,” said McLeod. “Everyone is affected by this, not just queer people. If this law was enforced today, all the women on the police and fire departments could be charged with a misdemeanor for cross-dressing.”
Though I have been out of the closet for 18 years, I admit sometimes I avoid learning about atrocities of the past; I'm already overwhelmed and frustrated by present day inequality. But after McLeod's presentation, I got curious.
San Francisco preceded Oakland with a similar law in 1866. By 1930, most cities in California had dress code laws. From the mid-19th century, the state enacted all kinds of legislation against LGBT behavior; convictions led to forced sterilization, castration, indefinite hospitalization and life imprisonment. The law lumped child molesters and homosexuals together as “perverts.” Women suffragists wore pants in protest. German theorist Karoly Maria Kertbeny disputed the criminalization of “homosexuality” (a term he coined). Racist medical texts linked the idea of "degenerate" races with "degenerate" sexualities.
In the wake of immigration legislation in Arizona, legislation that enables racial profiling, can we afford to leave vague laws on the books, laws that are subject to the interpretation of the times? Political climates change. In 1850, the state of California outlawed “crimes against nature.” Before 1900, this mainly applied to public sex, rape, and sex with a minor. But the early 20th century experienced a heightened anxiety over visible gender difference in urban communities, and homosexuals were increasingly arrested for “crimes against nature.”
As McLeod emphasized, “It could happen again.”
Shush! What’s that sound? Is it the bang of 1,000 fairies fainting in disbelief, falling to the floor? Nope. It’s the vogue boom of butch-queens dropping into suicide dips, their backs clapping the ground. An elegant tranny lip syncs Mary J. “You can’t keep a good woman down!”

http://oaklandlocal.com/article/cross-dressing-illegal-oakland-1879

[Nicole Dupre]

Two accounts, one married crossdresser!

WIG

ON

YOUR

RUBBER

MASK!

WIG

ON

YOUR

RUBBER

MASK!

[Nicole Dupre]

Two accounts, one married crossdresser!

WIG

ON

YOUR

RUBBER

MASK!

WIG

ON

YOUR

RUBBER

MASK!

[Nicole Dupre]

Attention divas, daggers, dykes, sissies and studs: sashay shante, y’all. According to Oakland's Code of Ordinances (http://library.municode.com/html/16308/Book.html), your style is illegal.

Immoral Dress Code 9.08.080 has been in place since 1879: “It is unlawful for any person in the city to appear in any public place nude or in the attire of a person of the opposite sex, or in any indecent or lewd attire.”
In terms of concentration of same sex couples, Oakland is ranked among the top five major metropolitan areas in the nation. Certainly our city is as socially conscious as it is diverse. Yet shockingly, in 2010, cross-dressing remains an offense “against public peace and decency.”
I first learned of this wacky time warp while attending an Oakland LGBT Roundtable (http://www.facebook.com/pages/Oakland-LGBT-Roundtable/121063566660) meeting. Stephanie McLeod, pictured above,an intern with City Council Member Rebecca Kaplan’s (http://www.rkaplan.org/) office, created a slide show presentation which contextualized the ordinance.
The civil war ended and the 15th amendment was ratified. Population explosions accompanied the gold rush and the transcontinental railroad; the latter saw Oakland grow from 1,500 people in 1860 to more than 36,000 in 1880. As the railroad’s western terminus, Oakland experienced a rush of new businesses, new manufacturing industries and new jobs. Migrants from the south, and immigrants from China and Southern Europe, changed the demographics of the area.
“People who were not perceived to be part of the social ‘norm’ were marginalized and criminalized,” said McLeod. “Everyone is affected by this, not just queer people. If this law was enforced today, all the women on the police and fire departments could be charged with a misdemeanor for cross-dressing.”
Though I have been out of the closet for 18 years, I admit sometimes I avoid learning about atrocities of the past; I'm already overwhelmed and frustrated by present day inequality. But after McLeod's presentation, I got curious.
San Francisco preceded Oakland with a similar law in 1866. By 1930, most cities in California had dress code laws. From the mid-19th century, the state enacted all kinds of legislation against LGBT behavior; convictions led to forced sterilization, castration, indefinite hospitalization and life imprisonment. The law lumped child molesters and homosexuals together as “perverts.” Women suffragists wore pants in protest. German theorist Karoly Maria Kertbeny disputed the criminalization of “homosexuality” (a term he coined). Racist medical texts linked the idea of "degenerate" races with "degenerate" sexualities.
In the wake of immigration legislation in Arizona, legislation that enables racial profiling, can we afford to leave vague laws on the books, laws that are subject to the interpretation of the times? Political climates change. In 1850, the state of California outlawed “crimes against nature.” Before 1900, this mainly applied to public sex, rape, and sex with a minor. But the early 20th century experienced a heightened anxiety over visible gender difference in urban communities, and homosexuals were increasingly arrested for “crimes against nature.”
As McLeod emphasized, “It could happen again.”
Shush! What’s that sound? Is it the bang of 1,000 fairies fainting in disbelief, falling to the floor? Nope. It’s the vogue boom of butch-queens dropping into suicide dips, their backs clapping the ground. An elegant tranny lip syncs Mary J. “You can’t keep a good woman down!”

http://oaklandlocal.com/article/cross-dressing-illegal-oakland-1879
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[Nicole Dupre]

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The ad campaign that Gillette canned.....

[Nicole Dupre]

Attention Brenda: sashay shante, y’all. According to Oakland's Code of Ordinances, your wanted for murder.

Immoral Dress Code 9.08.080 has been in place since 1879: “It is unlawful for any Brendas in the city to appear in any public place nude or in the attire of a person of the opposite sex, or in any indecent or lewd attire.”
In terms of concentration of same sex couples, Oakland is ranked among the top five major metropolitan areas in the nation. Certainly our city is as socially conscious as it is diverse. Yet shockingly, in 2010, cross-dressing remains an offense “against public peace and decency.”
I first learned of this wacky time warp while attending an Oakland LGBT Roundtable meeting. Brenda, pictured above,an intern with City Council Member Rebecca Kaplan’s office, created a slide show presentation which contextualized the ordinance.
The civil war ended and the 15th amendment was ratified. Population explosions accompanied the gold rush and the transcontinental railroad; the latter saw Oakland grow from 1,500 people in 1860 to more than 36,000 in 1880. As the railroad’s western terminus, Oakland experienced a rush of new businesses, new manufacturing industries and new jobs. Migrants from the south, and immigrants from China and Southern Europe, changed the demographics of the area.
“People who were not perceived to be part of the social ‘norm’ were marginalized and criminalized,” said McLeod. “Everyone is affected by this, not just queer people. If this law was enforced today, all the women on the police and fire departments could be charged with a misdemeanor for cross-dressing.”
Though I have never been out of the closet for 18 years, I admit sometimes I avoid learning about reality; I'm already overwhelmed and frustrated by present day inequality. But after McLeod's presentation, I got curious.
San Francisco preceded Oakland with a similar law in 1866. By 1930, most cities in California had dress code laws. From the mid-19th century, the state enacted all kinds of legislation against LGBT behavior; convictions led to forced sterilization, castration, indefinite hospitalization and life imprisonment. The law lumped child molesters and homosexuals together as “perverts.” Women suffragists wore pants in protest. German theorist Karoly Maria Kertbeny disputed the criminalization of “being Brenda” (a term he coined). Racist medical texts linked the idea of "degenerate" races with "degenerate" sexualities.
In the wake of immigration legislation in Arizona, legislation that enables racial profiling, can we afford to leave vague laws on the books, laws that are subject to the interpretation of the times? Political climates change. In 1850, the state of California outlawed “crimes against nature.” Before 1900, this mainly applied to public sex, rape, and sex with a minor. But the early 20th century experienced a heightened anxiety over visible gender difference in urban communities, and homosexuals were increasingly arrested for “crimes against nature.”
As McLeod emphasized, “It could happen again.”
Shush! What’s that sound? Is it the bang of 1,000lbs of Brenda fainting in disbelief smoking meth, falling to the floor? Nope. It’s the vogue boom of Brenda dropping into suicide dips, his back clapping the ground. A black crossdresser named Brenda lip syncs Mary J. “You can’t keep a good rubber mask down!”

[robertlouis]

Attention Brenda: sashay shante, y’all. According to Oakland's Code of Ordinances, your wanted for murder.

Immoral Dress Code 9.08.080 has been in place since 1879: “It is unlawful for any Brendas in the city to appear in any public place nude or in the attire of a person of the opposite sex, or in any indecent or lewd attire.”
In terms of concentration of same sex couples, Oakland is ranked among the top five major metropolitan areas in the nation. Certainly our city is as socially conscious as it is diverse. Yet shockingly, in 2010, cross-dressing remains an offense “against public peace and decency.”
I first learned of this wacky time warp while attending an Oakland LGBT Roundtable meeting. Brenda, pictured above,an intern with City Council Member Rebecca Kaplan’s office, created a slide show presentation which contextualized the ordinance.
The civil war ended and the 15th amendment was ratified. Population explosions accompanied the gold rush and the transcontinental railroad; the latter saw Oakland grow from 1,500 people in 1860 to more than 36,000 in 1880. As the railroad’s western terminus, Oakland experienced a rush of new businesses, new manufacturing industries and new jobs. Migrants from the south, and immigrants from China and Southern Europe, changed the demographics of the area.
“People who were not perceived to be part of the social ‘norm’ were marginalized and criminalized,” said McLeod. “Everyone is affected by this, not just queer people. If this law was enforced today, all the women on the police and fire departments could be charged with a misdemeanor for cross-dressing.”
Though I have never been out of the closet for 18 years, I admit sometimes I avoid learning about reality; I'm already overwhelmed and frustrated by present day inequality. But after McLeod's presentation, I got curious.
San Francisco preceded Oakland with a similar law in 1866. By 1930, most cities in California had dress code laws. From the mid-19th century, the state enacted all kinds of legislation against LGBT behavior; convictions led to forced sterilization, castration, indefinite hospitalization and life imprisonment. The law lumped child molesters and homosexuals together as “perverts.” Women suffragists wore pants in protest. German theorist Karoly Maria Kertbeny disputed the criminalization of “homosexuality” (a term he coined). Racist medical texts linked the idea of "degenerate" races with "degenerate" sexualities.
In the wake of immigration legislation in Arizona, legislation that enables racial profiling, can we afford to leave vague laws on the books, laws that are subject to the interpretation of the times? Political climates change. In 1850, the state of California outlawed “crimes against nature.” Before 1900, this mainly applied to public sex, rape, and sex with a minor. But the early 20th century experienced a heightened anxiety over visible gender difference in urban communities, and homosexuals were increasingly arrested for “crimes against nature.”
As McLeod emphasized, “It could happen again.”
Shush! What’s that sound? Is it the bang of 1,000 fairies fainting in disbelief, falling to the floor? Nope. It’s the vogue boom of Brenda dropping into suicide dips, their backs clapping the ground. An black crossdresser named Brenda lip syncs Mary J. “You can’t keep a good rubber mask down!”

:Bowdown::Bowdown::Bowdown::Bowdown: Too good, Nicole. LMAO.