From scratch..................

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

A few members of the NYCHAC (New York City Hung Angel Coalition, LOL) have come up to me saying the best way to have a relationship with a TS is to make one from scratch................

Now I know some of you folks are wondering what I'm talking about. This isn't the fuckin powerpuff girls and you can't put sugar, spice, & everything nice into a pot and make a tranny!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOL

Here's what was meant. The idea they approached me with was to get some feminine boy and slowly develop him into a very sexy TS. While this might be good physically for some it might not work mentally. Nonetheless i would be shocked if someone actually tried this and it worked. I could never do it.

The reasoning behind something like this is a philosophy a few of us have some of the time, about many of the current girls being all about the $$$ and full of shit, and on drugs more than a participant @ N/A.

Sidenote: This isn't always the case, I can honestly say I know a few tgirls that aren't always on some drug, always after the $$$, and always full of shit. There are nice girls out there I think (personally) once some of the girls start to see you are someone thats not just trying to fuck all the time they might consider opening up.

anyway i wanted to hear what you all think on this...........

[BlackAdder]

Interesting...Now if only i could find a willing dup...errr...henchma....errr......Partner.....yes, thats the ticket....

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

LOL. Good points JWBL. If none of the tgirls are easily as gullible and corruptible..Heck, then make one! LOL. Makes sense to me. ;)

~Kisses.

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[SexxxyJade]

While it is true that alot of girls are about $$$, strung out on drugs, or have sum other horrid issue that keeps thier attitudes on edge at times, it is essential to be in the gay/ts life style at least for a little bit,, to function well as a TS.

If u took sum fem boi and gave him hormones, implants, surg and all that, and even if he turned out to be a very pretty and sexy TS, he would still inside be a "fem boy".
To become a lady u must firts live as a lady, and feel like a lady. You must put urself in the surrounding of people of your own genre so that you can adapt and make yourself whole.
So im saying if u did get this fem boi, u would still have to let him hang with sum other TS', and if he did that thenin my opinion he would eventually grow to 1) pick up drug or other bad habits from them 2) start to escort if ucant support how he wants to live 3) pick up sum other bad tgirl habit.
So i think it wouldnt do u much good.
Kinda like test tube babies, when thier born they still have to go out and live in society, cant keep em caged up like an experiement. And when they grow up in society, they become just anpther average human being, where as if u kept em in the lab, theres no telling what kind of animal they'll become.
So in esscence folks thats my hypothesis....

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[Legend]

I think its hard to find a nice girl nowadays with them being money hounds they can either just love money or hook on surgeries which requires money either way they love green. That sounds like a crazy reality show you should pitch it to NBC.

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

Thats a great analogy Jade. No more truer words coming from someone inside the ts/tg community.

There are no guarantee's as to what a femboy turned transexual can become. Its as vague as the colors of the rainbow. Habits (good or bad), lifestyles etc are easily picked up by people. There are No surprises to that.

~Kisses.

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[BADAZZBODY]

Well i fell that children are children.. and if u are a legal adult, rather to be and influence of what your selfish needs desire.. you should be a role model.. for the development of a childs future.. to show the right the wrong, the good, and the bad and have a total and complete understanding of that child needs as a responsible adult woud do.. and make sure that that child dont make the mistakes u made, and lead them into the right path.

childrend watch and learen from what they see what they hear.. but good atmospheres, pear presure, and guildence.. its whats really important for them to know.

more ova.. a homosexual, transsexual, or a sexual disorder is extream... who knows what lies beneath..but not being selfish of someone needs for your own gain.. is not good.. but to be true..and a guardian or parent.. of some one wit issues..like above..(from to the beginning to this thread) its what the mean focuse is...

life is too complicated for someone to decide for u..and people and suroundings affect everyone in someway... as long as your guidence is not for your selfish means... then your work is done... fell me


i totally agree wit johnny walker..

its sounds like childs play to me..children relate to children.. and parents be real parents..whats a fem boy.. and u a grown ass man.. are u a parent or are u selfish..

i hope i am not off topic.. it just seem like this topic took me into the minds of peoples thoughts..

sounds more like i dream of jeannie lol u rub, rub, rub..poof tranny..

sorry unlikely...come on fellas...

[canihavu]

If u took sum fem boi and gave him hormones, implants, surg and all that, and even if he turned out to be a very pretty and sexy TS, he would still inside be a "fem boy".


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Very interesting...

[LG]

No offence JWBL, but this all sounds kinda messed up. And I agree with you, it would never work.Unless a guy already feels feminine, then you cannot make him into a transexual woman.

That is, unless that person actually wants the change (and therefore is already, strictly speaking psychologically transgendered) then you're quite right that it wouldn't work.

There are transgenders out there who are still not quite happy with how they look, who need a guys help to perfect their transformation. This is the only way you can create a tgirl, I think. In fact, you're not so much creating her as helping her become one physically.

And why would a feminine boy want to become a TS anyway? And how could you convince him? And why would you want to?

[brickcitybrother]

JWBL ...

I think that doing what you suggest is a very simple receipe for a deep psychosis. I mean think of it, you are simply manipulating the free will of another to live a life, not of their own design.

I could go on... but won't.

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

whoa fellas, 1st off let me say this................... I am not SUGGESTING this at all............. there are a few other members of this board that I know persoanlly that have walked up to me at a party and thrown that out there, 2 different people on different nights with the same concept, I thought it would make a good topic........... and I do not agree with it, I mean I could never bring myself to put someone through that, but that's just me, there's obviously some people out there that think they could do this, I'm not one of them. I am also not putting anyone down, if a guy can get someone to go through that mentally I'll give them $$$ to run for public office, because that type of mental manipulation is rare in today's society. But what I think they guys that initially told me the thought were trying to say was this "if some prettyboy came up to them and said he wanted to be a woman, they would convince them to go through with various procedures and in the end have someone who they've known through all the stages both mental & physical....................."

if this offended anyone I don't apologize but I do understand where you are coming from

[slinky]

Firstly, I want to say I'm responding to this seriously even though I realise the premise is tongue in cheek.

Secondly, we have to think about cuase and effect: you take some fem-boi, slap tits and make-up on him, feminize him, and......... he'll prabaly start hanging out at TS parties with ugly, fat Tranny Chasers offering him drugs and money to home with them, and then what would you get?

Thirdly, it's not just a TS problem: whether gay, straight, TS or whatever people only come "off the rack"... there is no custom made. And what happens is that people havce these "lists" of "he has to be over 6 feet tall, he has to have blond hair, he has to be a doctor or a lawyer......" (or she or whatever) and what they end up with is someone who has lots of checkmarks on the list, but isn't really someone who they want to have a relationship with.

Whenever I see some nice looking girl (especially tgrils) at a club and they don't have a guy with them all night or at the end of the night. All I can think of is "they are too picky". They are so focussed on having to have every little check ,ark filled on their little card, that they won't take a chance on what would probably be something more interesting. If you want to get more out of life, you've got to take a few risks, and a lot of times that means dropping some silly hoops that you want people to jump thru.

[slinky]

These are the same types of guys who think all of their social problems will be solved by some mail order bride because Russian/Thai/Dominican/Brazilian/Chinese/whatever women are all so obedient/caring/good in bed/make good mothers/whatver.

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

,,,,lets see,,, Hara,, you wouldn't consider me too old, would you? :?

LOL. Old? Ofcourse not. But at 32 if you wish to become a transexual that might be a little bit late an age to be one. But thats my personal opinion. The benefits of hormones works well when one started young i.e. during puberty. :wink:

~Kisses.

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[slinky]

I think that guys who think this don't know too many older gay men who date twinks (who spend all day at teh gym looking at themselves in the mirror, then go out to dinner with their friends on Daddy's credit card, then do drugs and club all nite. And it's worse because it's a lot easier for twinks to go out partying at their spots 7 days a week)

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

,,,,lets see,,, Hara,, you wouldn't consider me too old, would you? :?

LOL. Old? Ofcourse not. But at 32 if you wish to become a transexual that might be a little bit late an age to be one. But thats my personal opinion. The benefits of hormones works well when one started young i.e. during puberty. :wink:

~Kisses.

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You're funny Hara but i was referring to me being too old for you as in, YOUR age preference in guys. I think my initail post in here came out wrong the way i worded it but just to clear it up, i meant that i was too old at 32 to try associating with a younger person in thier teens for any sort of relationship outlined in JWBL's post. LoL. :wink:

LOL. Well it came out wrong and on a thread like this (with "frankensteinian" way of thinking)..can easily be misunderstood. LOL. Umm..But going back to your Q? Not at all. I actually prefer guys between the ages of 30-40 (45 max.)..unless one at 25 is mature or one at 50 looks great then, Good for him! :wink:

~Kisses.

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[Ecstatic]

I actually prefer guys between the ages of 30-40 (45 max.)..unless one at 25 is mature or one at 50 looks great then, Good for him! :wink:

~Kisses.

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Oh, thank you for that last, Hara...at least I can still dream! :wink:

(My birthday is next Tuesday...you don't want to know how old I am--or at least I don't! But a year ago I was carded when I ordered a beer, and one of my Thai friends told me a few days ago that I'm "always 35" so I'll be celebrating my 35th...again....)

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

,,,,lets see,,, Hara,, you wouldn't consider me too old, would you? :?

LOL. Old? Ofcourse not. But at 32 if you wish to become a transexual that might be a little bit late an age to be one. But thats my personal opinion. The benefits of hormones works well when one started young i.e. during puberty. :wink:

~Kisses.

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You're funny Hara but i was referring to me being too old for you as in, YOUR age preference in guys. I think my initail post in here came out wrong the way i worded it but just to clear it up, i meant that i was too old at 32 to try associating with a younger person in thier teens for any sort of relationship outlined in JWBL's post. LoL. :wink:

LOL. Well it came out wrong and on a thread like this (with "frankensteinian" way of thinking)..can easily be misunderstood. LOL. Umm..But going back to your Q? Not at all. I actually prefer guys between the ages of 30-40 (45 max.)..unless one at 25 is mature or one at 50 looks great then, Good for him! :wink:

~Kisses.
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thats good to know Hara, i may not be part of the "young and beautiful" as someone stated on this forum before, but for a 32 yr old, i am in the best shape of my life since i work out and weight train everyday so for my age i look pretty good. Mature though?, i don't know about that as my previous post i totally geeked out with the star wars reference. Hahaha. :oops:

Nah..I certainly dont. I saw your pics on yahoo and I gotta say you dont even look 32. Helps to be young at heart and having the boy in you "still in you"..If you know what I mean? :wink:



I actually prefer guys between the ages of 30-40 (45 max.)..unless one at 25 is mature or one at 50 looks great then, Good for him! :wink:

~Kisses.

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Oh, thank you for that last, Hara...at least I can still dream! :wink:

(My birthday is next Tuesday...you don't want to know how old I am--or at least I don't! But a year ago I was carded when I ordered a beer, and one of my Thai friends told me a few days ago that I'm "always 35" so I'll be celebrating my 35th...again....)

Well advance Happy Birthday Ecstatic!! *throws confetti* I got a candle for you to blow..LOL. Kidding. :wink:

I really think that if one takes good care of themselves that they will infact emanate the AURA of "good feeling" and will definitely look younger for their age. My Mom's 57 though she looks 40. 8)

~Kisses.

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