Shemale Vanity...

[lexer]

I 've seen a lot of videos with Vanity, a really beautiful shemale.
In almost all her videos I've seen that she prefer fuck and not to be fucked.
She fucks man and woman, really there are a lot of videos where she fucks expecially woman... she is really active...
Are there possibility that Vanity will be revert to man like Lisa lawer?

[Silcc69]

Lmao!

[Instrumental]

I imagine the only person who could answer that is her. However that'd be a lot of work to undo.

[innocentbychoice]

Lisa Lawer? Who is that? any pics of her before the mtf transition, after mtf transition and after ftm transition?

[kukm4]

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBzS_JNHDaM)

[MrsKellyPierce]

Vaniity is all woman...how proposterous. Who cares if she likes to top.

[PomonaCA]

Blasphemy!

[Jackal]

Just because she likes to top does not make her any less of a woman than any other woman. That's ridiculous. I suppose if she were asexual, she'd be the ultimate woman? Vanity is a beautiful, sexy and pretty transwoman. Period. Quit hating!

[rudh1]

Nooooo

[runround04]

She's got one and knows who to use, I see no issues with that.

[drock]

ummm who cares

[bassman2546]

The videos that I've seen she seems to like bottoming as much as topping which makes her that much more exciting to watch.

[Richctdude]

what what what!!!!!!

[CORVETTEDUDE]

What???? :yayo::yayo:

[effigyc]

You would think that this forum would be one of the most sexually open minded places in the world, but I see really small minded and, frankly, old stereo types popping up again and again.

[phobun]

I 've seen a lot of videos with Vanity, a really beautiful shemale.
In almost all her videos I've seen that she prefer fuck and not to be fucked.
She fucks man and woman, really there are a lot of videos where she fucks expecially woman... she is really active...
Are there possibility that Vanity will be revert to man like Lisa lawer?


Any transgender who likes to top is less of a woman than one who acts like a woman in bed.

And the corollary is that any cockhound who likes to bottom is less of a man than one who takes the male role.

Poo-poo this opinion all you want, but it is very true and commonly held.

[MrsKellyPierce]

Any transgender who likes to top is less of a woman than one who acts like a woman in bed.

And the corollary is that any cockhound who likes to bottom is less of a man than one who takes the male role.

Poo-poo this opinion all you want, but it is very true and commonly held. People need to keep in mind she's a porn ACTRESS. When I did porn I only topped. But in real life I'm a bottom. I topped, because I was saving my ass for someone I loved and cared about. I didn't want to be an open buffet. Plus loads of men have that fantasy of getting fucked in the ass. Some watch women with strap-ons then graduate to transsexuals.

Would you also consider the men that like to get fucked by their wives with strap-ons less manly Phobun? Would you consider the women that love to fuck men with strap-ons less female?

I think what you do in the bedroom, doesn't make you who you are outside the bedroom.

And I certainly don't think the sex you have on camera is for pleasure it's to entertain others.

[phobun]

People need to keep in mind she's a porn ACTRESS. When I did porn I only topped. But in real life I'm a bottom. I topped, because I was saving my ass for someone I loved and cared about. I didn't want to be an open buffet. Plus loads of men have that fantasy of getting fucked in the ass. Some watch women with strap-ons then graduate to transsexuals.


I respect you and I'm not pointing fingers. I'm just speaking about my personal beliefs.


Would you also consider the men that like to get fucked by their wives with strap-ons less manly Phobun? Would you consider the women that love to fuck men with strap-ons less female?


Honestly, yes.


I think what you do in the bedroom, doesn't make you who you are outside the bedroom.


I think what you do in the bedroom is a reflection of who you are outside the bedroom.


And I certainly don't think the sex you have on camera is for pleasure it's to entertain others.


Judging by all the young studs itching to get into porn, I have to believe otherwise, at least for the guys. They aren't paid enough to do it, they must also enjoy it.

[MrsKellyPierce]

I respect you and I'm not pointing fingers. I'm just speaking about my personal beliefs.




Honestly, yes.




I think what you do in the bedroom is a reflection of who you are outside the bedroom.




Judging by all the young studs itching to get into porn, I have to believe otherwise, at least for the guys. They aren't paid enough to do it, they must also enjoy it.Well I can say I never enjoyed a single scene lol It's stop/go stop/go stop/go then waiting for the right lighting or taking a break or setting up for a different shot.. lol It was work to me.

[Jackal]

Any transgender who likes to top is less of a woman than one who acts like a woman in bed.

And the corollary is that any cockhound who likes to bottom is less of a man than one who takes the male role.

Poo-poo this opinion all you want, but it is very true and commonly held.


It may be commonly held, but it is not very true. Sexuality is not the same as gender. Sex and gender are not determined by bedroom activities. Are you of the opinion that anyone who is not completely straight is not a real man/woman?
PS: What she does in film is not necessarily what she prefers in real life. I've seen her have sex with men, women and transwomen. I do not know for sure if she is a straight or bisexual woman, but she is a woman. Respect....try it!

[Jake4]

Any transgender who likes to top is less of a woman than one who acts like a woman in bed.

And the corollary is that any cockhound who likes to bottom is less of a man than one who takes the male role.

Poo-poo this opinion all you want, but it is very true and commonly held.

No, it's just an opinion and nothing more. Just because you have an opinion on something it doesn't make it a true statement.

[Melissastiehler]

I tell you what, I wouldn't mind getting destroyed by Vaniity :tongue:

[Jackal]

Any transgender who likes to top is less of a woman than one who acts like a woman in bed.

And the corollary is that any cockhound who likes to bottom is less of a man than one who takes the male role.

Poo-poo this opinion all you want, but it is very true and commonly held.

If anything, please, please learn that it is pooh-pooh. What is wrong with people? And here is a preemptive FYI, it is "hear, hear."

[dogsandcats]

Any transgender who likes to top is less of a woman than one who acts like a woman in bed.

And the corollary is that any cockhound who likes to bottom is less of a man than one who takes the male role.

Poo-poo this opinion all you want, but it is very true and commonly held.

Yup and both are dumb opinions held by closed minded people.

[innocentbychoice]

I think what you do in the bedroom is a reflection of who you are outside the bedroom.

Not at all. Sex is a game, and like in any game, anything goes as long as you and your partner agree. If you want to experience a threesome with your partner, that doesn't make you a whore outside of the bedroom. If you want your girl to stick her fingers in your ass, that doesn't make you less of a man in any way.

[phobun]

If you want your girl to stick her fingers in your ass, that doesn't make you less of a man in any way.


Ponderings on manliness, by a self-described "boy who likes boys"

[innocentbychoice]

Ponderings on manliness, by a self-described "boy who likes boys"

So being a boy who likes boys, being gay, makes me less of a man? or less manly? Oh God :rolleyes:

And I thought that when you said the following in another thread you were talking about others, not yourself:



They don't think about what they're saying EVER. They say stupid idiotic shit like [Ponderings on manliness, by a self-described "boy who likes boys" ]"feminine cock" and "I'm a straight guy who likes cock" all the time.

These straight guys get all toadyish about a TS's penis then turn around and call her a man.

Every time they open their mouths they're bitchslapping themselves.

:rolleyes: lol oh the irony.

[phobun]

So being a boy who likes boys, being gay, makes me less of a man? or less manly? Oh God :rolleyes:


Well guys like Clay Aiken, Lance Bass and Elton have a sky-high manliness quotients. And of course, guys like Carson K., Adam Lambert and Kevin Aviance bring a progressive perspective to manliness. But the guys in leather vests and chaps and wearing biker caps and nipple rings are the manliest of all. GAWD, Freddie Mercury was a hyper-alpha-man!

I don't see how anyone could possibly think gays are not the epitome of manly!

[Jackal]

Phobun sly suggestion shows what a bigot and a moron he is. For every sexual orientation, there is a range of personalities and mannerisms among individuals. I bet someone like Eric Alva could snap Phobun's neck off his smug body, but based on who the guy finds attractive, he is not manly? And why does manliness equal man anyway?

[innocentbychoice]

Well guys like Clay Aiken, Lance Bass and Elton have a sky-high manliness quotients. And of course, guys like Carson K., Adam Lambert and Kevin Aviance bring a progressive perspective to manliness. But the guys in leather vests and chaps and wearing biker caps and nipple rings are the manliest of all. GAWD, Freddie Mercury was a hyper-alpha-man!

I don't see how anyone could possibly think gays are not the epitome of manly!

You do know that there's all type of gay men just like there's all type of people in the world right? And that the fact tha those you mentioned aren't as manly have nothing to do with their sexuality but their personality, they are who they are because of who they are not because of who they like.

Generalizing much? Oh wait, what was I thinking? This is HA after all, it happens all the time, even to the people who love being pseudo-intellectual and trying to act like they know better, like you. Ignorance and sexism is so obvious even when you try to word it nicely.

[innocentbychoice]

Phobun sly suggestion shows what a bigot and a moron he is. For every sexual orientation, there is a range of personalities and mannerisms among individuals. I bet someone like Eric Alva could snap Phobun's neck off his smug body, but based on who the guy finds attractive, he is not manly? And why does manliness equal man anyway?

Shhh! Don't say that, you might actually make him think, that could hurt him.

[phobun]

You do know that there's all type of gay men just like there's all type of people in the world right? And that the fact tha those you mentioned aren't as manly have nothing to do with their sexuality but their personality, they are who they are because of who they are not because of who they like.

Generalizing much? Oh wait, what was I thinking? This is HA after all, it happens all the time, even to the people who love being pseudo-intellectual and trying to act like they know better, like you. Ignorance and sexism is so obvious even when you try to word it nicely.


There are all kinds of gay men sure. But like all celebrities, gay celebrities are a reflection of the underlying society they represent. It's not as if all these gay celebrities behave a certain way and average gays don't behave anything remotely like them. Attempts have been made to quantify the range of human behaviors using such things as masculinity-feminity scoring systems. For gays, if plotted on such a scale, the distribution of behaviors may encompass a wide range indeed, but the mean gay score is skewed away from the mean score for men who are 100% straight.

Surely, you aren't going to argue that you're a "regular guy" who uses a Wonder Woman cartoon avatar and also just happens to be gay.

[phobun]

Phobun sly suggestion shows what a bigot and a moron he is. For every sexual orientation, there is a range of personalities and mannerisms among individuals. I bet someone like Eric Alva could snap Phobun's neck off his smug body, but based on who the guy finds attractive, he is not manly? And why does manliness equal man anyway?


"snap Phobun's neck off his smug body"... hehe, I really got your goat for you to have written that.

Clearly, manliness does not equal man, at least not for everyone.

[innocentbychoice]

There are all kinds of gay men sure. But like all celebrities, gay celebrities are a reflection of the underlying society they represent. It's not as if all these gay celebrities behave a certain way and average gays don't behave anything remotely like them. Attempts have been made to quantify the range of human behaviors using such things as masculinity-feminity scoring systems. For gays, if plotted on such a scale, the distribution of behaviors may encompass a wide range indeed, but the mean gay score is skewed away from the mean score for men who are 100% straight.

Blah blah blah...

There's masculine gay public figures such as rugby player Gareth Thomas, ex basketball player John Amaechi, ex Survivor contestant JP Calderon, ex baseball player Billy Bean, to name a few.


Surely, you aren't going to argue that you're a "regular guy" who uses a Wonder Woman cartoon avatar and also just happens to be gay.

I was waiting for this, the comment about my avatar. I put her because she's a gay icon, and I'm gay but that has nothing to do with what we're talking about and if we're gonna talk about avatars, you can't really say anything about mine as long as you have yours of a (trans?) model or beauty queen working the runway.

[JoePitt]

Poo-poo this opinion all you want, but it is very true and commonly held.

Creationism is a commonly held belief too.

[phobun]

Blah blah blah...

There's masculine gay public figures such as rugby player Gareth Thomas, ex basketball player John Amaechi, ex Survivor contestant JP Calderon, ex baseball player Billy Bean, to name a few.


Exactly. A few.


I was waiting for this, the comment about my avatar. I put her because she's a gay icon, and I'm gay but that has nothing to do with what we're talking about and if we're gonna talk about avatars, you can't really say anything about mine as long as you have yours of a (trans?) model or beauty queen working the runway.


It is okay for a guy to have a pretty girl as an avatar. But it is a bit fruity for a self-described man to have post-menopausal has beens like Judy Garland, Cher, Lynda Carter, Bea Arthur or any another "gay icon" as an avatar.

[Jackal]

So, what exactly is a (effeminate or otherwise) gay man? The third sex? A reptile? an alien from Mars? Take someone like Lance Bass or Quentin Crisp, someone completely gay and effeminate...they are not men to you? I never understood when homophobes said gays are not "real men"(Scotsman fallacy anyone?); then what are they? Straight women? No, they are just as man as any other guy, they just happen to have different attractions(in this case exclusively.

[innocentbychoice]

Exactly. A few.




It is okay for a guy to have a pretty girl as an avatar. But it is a bit fruity for a self-described man to have post-menopausal has beens like Judy Garland, Cher, Lynda Carter, Bea Arthur or any another "gay icon" as an avatar.

That's your opinion. And I'm not a "self described" man, I am a man. A man with a Wonder Woman avatar,. Big deal! The world must be ending. Get over it.

PS: For a self-described manly man (who isn't supposed to be into fruity things as you say), you sure know a lot about gay icons from the past. Keep digging your grave buddy ;).

[phobun]

That's your opinion. And I'm not a "self described" man, I am a man. A man with a Wonder Woman avatar,. Big deal! The world must be ending. Get over it.

PS: For a self-described manly man (who isn't supposed to be into fruity things as you say), you sure know a lot about gay icons from the past. Keep digging your grave buddy ;).


Actually I never called myself manly. I did a search for "gay icons"... What the hell, why so many dried-up old ladies?

[cheez]

Well, if the OP is just stirring shit all everyone is doing is exactly what he wanted- they're falling into predictable arguments- "this is gay, that's gay" kind of shit.
If the OP is just genuinely ignorant about the issues transwomen face (female mind/male body) then we're just not even bothering to educate this person.
In either case, the thread is pointless with all these rants.
There are cases where someone may be so confused about gender and identity and face other external pressures that they could conceivably go from male to female to male again, however that would be incredibly rare.
Most of the women on this board are mentally women and when they go through those changes to bring out that woman, they are not likely to revert to a male persona of any sort.
Yes topping is predominantly seen as a "male" action, but Vaniity is paid to do it and still has a penis. Even if she sees herself as a bottom it still probably feels good. I'm sure there are many sex acts that feel good that I wouldn't indulge in unless I was getting paid to do it.
I myself don't like the idea of a girl topping, but big deal. The world doesn't exist to solely make me happy...

[Jake4]

I 've seen a lot of videos with Vanity, a really beautiful shemale.
In almost all her videos I've seen that she prefer fuck and not to be fucked.
She fucks man and woman, really there are a lot of videos where she fucks expecially woman... she is really active...
Are there possibility that Vanity will be revert to man like Lisa lawer?

Vaniity is gorgeous. I'd love to have the opportunity to suck her cock and have her fuck me.

[DL_NL]

Please everyone, stop quoting that moron phobun. What use is the ignore function when everyone's quoting his keyboard diarrhoea anyway?

[a994]

Any transgender who likes to top is less of a woman than one who acts like a woman in bed.

And the corollary is that any cockhound who likes to bottom is less of a man than one who takes the male role.

Poo-poo this opinion all you want, but it is very true and commonly held.


(sigh) Whatever floats your boat, man.

All I know is that I wouldn't kick Vaniity out of bed, regardless of whatever role she wanted to play.

[waiderox]

The fact that she tops is not an issue.
The girl just loves to cum!
More power to her, whatever gets her off!!!

[Jake4]

The fact that she tops is not an issue.
The girl just loves to cum!
More power to her, whatever gets her off!!!

And speaking of getting her off, I'd certainly like to play a part in getting her off.

[onmyknees]

Please everyone, stop quoting that moron phobun. What use is the ignore function when everyone's quoting his keyboard diarrhoea anyway?


Damn it...I was just going to fuck him up ( verbally, or course...) for some of his bizzare, bigoted, redundant views...but you may have a point. :ignore:

[Johnny O]

Vaniity is all woman...how proposterous. Who cares if she likes to top.

I agree! I prefer girls who like to top anyway.