Would you have a serious relationship with a TGIRL?

[innocentbychoice]

I'm gonna call it like I see it. I've seen most guys here want to fuck tgirls, not many say they would have a serious relationship. By serious relationship I mean dating the girl, taking her out, treating her like any other girlfriend you've had in the past. Introducing her to your friends, and maybe even your parents. You know how that is.

Please answer the poll and tell us why.

[amberskyi]

this thread has been done countless times.sometimes it seems like you guys just run in circles.
and what do you mean by "Introducing her to your friends, and maybe even your parents. YOU KNOW WHO THAT IS." please do explain that part....

[Ben]

Yes....

[Silcc69]

If she is as fine as Babydoll im all game

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:N3DtRjKSNiTfgM:http://www.nude-gallery-free.com/galleries/shemales/shemale-329/babydoll-01.jpg&t=1

[jaybee]

My girlfriend (TS) and I have been together for a year, and we're amazingly happy!

[innocentbychoice]

this thread has been done countless times.sometimes it seems like you guys just run in circles.
and what do you mean by "Introducing her to your friends, and maybe even your parents. YOU KNOW WHO THAT IS." please do explain that part....

It says "you know how that is" as in, I don't really need to explain what a serious relationship is even though I already did.

[FreddieGomez]

i honestly don't know...maybe when i'm older?

[Jackal]

I would, but I am also a bit of a dreamer and fantasize about women. Last tgirl I dated was a few years ago.

[bighicknyc]

When you say treat her like a girlfriend do you mean by beating her and stealing her money. Hitting on her friends and forgeting her birthday then hell yes

[toopretty]

I'm gonna call it like I see it. I've seen most guys here want to fuck tgirls, not many say they would have a serious relationship. By serious relationship I mean dating the girl, taking her out, treating her like any other girlfriend you've had in the past. Introducing her to your friends, and maybe even your parents. You know how that is.

Please answer the poll and tell us why.

Yes, yes, yes, yes, and yes. And I wouldnt hide the fact that she was transsexual unless she wanted me to.

[MrsKellyPierce]

It's easy to say yes...doing it is another.

[nonnonnon]

of course. I'm an orphan so I can cross parents off the list. I honestly wish I was more into it like a fetish but I just see them as girls

[south ov da border]

yes, very yes (in my Strongbad voice)...

[tambor]

Have had 2 Long term relationships with transgendered women - both were rewarding experiences.

[harri10]

No way, my wife would kill me!

[lovesall]

For me if it happens yeah I would go for it, but I never really planed for it, so as they say wait and see.

[onmyknees]

Of Course.
There'd be challenges to be sure, but serious what relationship doesn't have challenges ? Any lasting relationship is about 2 way commitment.

[amberskyi]

i honestly don't know...maybe when i'm older?

lmfao..wait to long and no ones going to want too

[Willfromengland]

i would love to but not in the life i live now i feel i would have to leave every one and start fresh somewere.

[Teydyn]

Yes.

8,5 year relationship, 3 years married and going strong...

[FreddieGomez]

lmfao..wait to long and no ones going to want too

i'm still young and want at least one more kid....so getting serious with a tranny wouldnt be logical right now unless she is ok with me cheating to get another chick pregnant....

[amberskyi]

i'm still young and want at least one more kid....so getting serious with a tranny wouldnt be logical right now unless she is ok with me cheating to get another chick pregnant....

LMFAO...this is why as much as they turn me on i dont fuck with latin guys seriously..

[nonnonnon]

Yes.

8,5 year relationship, 3 years married and going strong...

good shit.
As the great Eddie Murphy (who is a chaser btw haha) said, a lot of the tgirls I know like to party all the time so I don't know if they're looking to settle down

[Jake4]

I answered yes because I am already in a serious relationship with a tgirl and I love her very much. Hopefully I will be married to her one day and even more hopefully it will be soon.

[Odelay]

this thread has been done countless times.sometimes it seems like you guys just run in circles.
and what do you mean by "Introducing her to your friends, and maybe even your parents. YOU KNOW WHO THAT IS." please do explain that part....

Okay, I'll marry you, Amber. But I'm only 5'11" so you can't be wearing heels all the time. I'll catch an inferiority complex.

[tsparisangelline]

LMFAO...this is why as much as they turn me on i dont fuck with latin guys seriously..

That and the anger issues, lol.

[amberskyi]

Okay, I'll marry you, Amber. But I'm only 5'11" so you can't be wearing heels all the time. I'll catch an inferiority complex.

the only time i wear heels are in the bedroom and im going to be on my knees or on my back anyways..lol

[DarylWashington]

Done it before, and will do it again!

[FreddieGomez]

LMFAO...this is why as much as they turn me on i dont fuck with latin guys seriously..

well.....

[runrundingoboy]

Absolutely. I already have a good friend who is Transsexual, and we hang out frequently- go to the movies, dinner, etc. Doesn't really phase me. Neither of us is into the other as a relationship prospect, but we're good friends. If I met a Transsexual girl with whom I found mutual attraction & chemistry, the rest would just be details.

[Ryz]

Didn't work out so well.
But would give it another go with someone else

[Chaingunner]

I voted yes. Its the person and not what's between their legs that counts.

[bridgetbbyxo]

Of course i would.

I cant forget to have a relationship and love myself first.

YouTube - All is full of love (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjAoBKagWQA)

[innocentbychoice]

Wow, 45 guys so far answered yes in the poll. But it can't be like that in real life in transgirls are always complaining that it's hard to find a good man.

[MrF]

Wow, 45 guys so far answered yes in the poll. But it can't be like that in real life in transgirls are always complaining that it's hard to find a good man.

It's easy to say yes when you are anonymous. But on the other hand, the crowd of men here are attracted to transwomen, so a lot of the sentiments might be genuine. My own vote was "yes" but it's hypothetical because I have someone.

[SmithXXX]

I'm in one a long term relationship now. We've been together for 2.5 years, and I know her family and she knows mine. As a matter of fact here is a picture of Me my mom and her at Blue Moon Nights last Thursday! if you want to see more pics from that night and other nights and clubs check our Mine and Willie Escalades blog www.otola.net/blog (http://www.otola.net/blog)

[Willie Escalade]

I was in a relationship for about a year. We were close, but she had a change of mind. She never met my whole family, but she did meet my father.

[nonnonnon]

I'm in one a long term relationship now. We've been together for 2.5 years, and I know her family and she knows mine. As a matter of fact here is a picture of Me my mom and her at Blue Moon Nights last Thursday! if you want to see more pics from that night and other nights and clubs check our Mine and Willie Escalades blog www.otola.net/blog (http://www.otola.net/blog)

wow very nice.

[Chaingunner]

Course I voted YES. I’ve been married already with a TS.

But this question has to be directed to people on streets, not here! Obviously in here YES will be majority, coz this is an orientated board. We are in a “higher” level of sociability. I’m very proud of it.

On streets answer will be NO. All in here know that.

I have a better question for you, guys!

ARE YOU DOING SOMETHING TO HELP DECREASING DISCRIMINATION AGAINST TRANSSEXUALS IN YOUR LIFE?

Do you hire a TS to work in your company? I would

Do you tell your friends you have a TS friend online or off line? I have

Do you invite a TS friend to have dinner at home with your family? I would

Do you hold hands with your TS gf when walking on the streets? I would

Have u ever thought about visiting your TS gf’s family on her birthday? I would


Just think about it….

All but one answered hypothetically there.

[Jackal]

I'm in one a long term relationship now. We've been together for 2.5 years, and I know her family and she knows mine. As a matter of fact here is a picture of Me my mom and her at Blue Moon Nights last Thursday! if you want to see more pics from that night and other nights and clubs check our Mine and Willie Escalades blog www.otola.net/blog (http://www.otola.net/blog)



Wonderful story and photo, thanks for sharing yogi,

[blckhaze]

wheres the option for
yes, and this woman wont leave me alone anymore?
...
...
...
ok I'll stick with yes, and im happily off the market :|

[Beaner]

I'm gonna call it like I see it. I've seen most guys here want to fuck tgirls, not many say they would have a serious relationship. By serious relationship I mean dating the girl, taking her out, treating her like any other girlfriend you've had in the past. Introducing her to your friends, and maybe even your parents. You know how that is.

Please answer the poll and tell us why.


Would I have a serious relationship or any kind of relationship with a TG? Hell NO! Would I fuck a TG hell yes in a minute!

[DL_NL]

I've been in two relationships with T-girls so far and would do so again.

[florida_raul]

yeah, over 6 month live-in relationship now. I moved to Philippines just to be with her and it was worth it.
She is stunningly beautiful and sexy, but sometimes very childish and naive. It's not easy to live with her, as we fight a lot,
but we keep on trying. She met my parents, and they didnt even have a clue that she is transsexual. its not much different that relationship with genetic girl.

[BigDF]

Wow, 45 guys so far answered yes in the poll. But it can't be like that in real life in transgirls are always complaining that it's hard to find a good man.You didn't ask about the good man part, IBC. I said yes, although its not in my plans right now. My wife would not tolerate that. But if something happened and I were available, I'd have no problem whatsoever with it.

[audifan]

the only time i wear heels are in the bedroom and im going to be on my knees or on my back anyways..lol

I like that answer! :grin:

[Melissastiehler]

Yes, if I like her, I wouldn't have a problem.

[MrsKellyPierce]

71 % of the men here will date a transsexual most of that percent are brain dead when it comes to transsexuals.

[bellamy]

I have in the past and would again if the situation presented itself

[dan_drade]

I have been with the same girl for almost 5 years now. She has been living with me and my son for over a year now and it's great.

[innocentbychoice]

So to the guys who have dated / are daiting transgirls, do you tell your parents and friends that she is a TS? Is it none of their business?

[innocentbychoice]

Would I have a serious relationship or any kind of relationship with a TG? Hell NO! Would I fuck a TG hell yes in a minute!

Why not? Just wanna know your reasoning.

[dan_drade]

So to the guys who have dated / are daiting transgirls, do you tell your parents and friends that she is a TS? Is it none of their business?

I have not told anyone that she is a TS. When we first started dating she told me I could never tell anyone. She has been a fulltime girl since she was in her late teens. The only people that know is her family, me and a couple of her ex's. There are also a few of her ts friends that know as well. But in the ts community there is a level of respect for the fulltime girls that are stealth. The other girls will never out them to anyone. It's somthing I don't really understand, but I'm sure the girls here know what I'm talking about.

[audifan]

So to the guys who have dated / are daiting transgirls, do you tell your parents and friends that she is a TS? Is it none of their business?

I'm not, so my answer's hypothetical. I'd say firstly it's none of their business, and secondly that she absolutely should be consulted about any question of whether/who to tell.

[innocentbychoice]

I have not told anyone that she is a TS. When we first started dating she told me I could never tell anyone. She has been a fulltime girl since she was in her late teens. The only people that know is her family, me and a couple of her ex's. There are also a few of her ts friends that know as well. But in the ts community there is a level of respect for the fulltime girls that are stealth. The other girls will never out them to anyone. It's somthing I don't really understand, but I'm sure the girls here know what I'm talking about.

Ok so if someone asks about her past, her high school days and stuff, I suppose she has a made up past for those type of questions.

[drock]

I'd be open to it..

[dan_drade]

Ok so if someone asks about her past, her high school days and stuff, I suppose she has a made up past for those type of questions.

Not really, she tells everyone the true stories from her past. She just doesn't mention the fact that she was a boy. Belive it or not, most TS women have pretty girly stories to tell anyway. At least my gf does.

[JoePitt]

Been there, done that and all I got out of it was this lousy t-shirt.

[phobun]

71 % of the men here will date a transsexual most of that percent are brain dead when it comes to transsexuals.


Most of these guys are chasers and insincere by nature. Their priority is themselves and that is why they feel they can be clueless about TS.

[phobun]

sometimes it seems like you guys just run in circles.


He's not your average guy on this forum. He's gay. None of the other guys on this forum are gay. LOL.

[phobun]

Wow, 45 guys so far answered yes in the poll. But it can't be like that in real life in transgirls are always complaining that it's hard to find a good man.


They're full of shit. Guys here are full of shit. Self-deluded or intentionally, it is almost universally true.

[rockabilly]

Deja Vu again.

Why not have a serious relationship?

[phobun]

Deja Vu again.

Why not have a serious relationship?


Getting past any issues chasers have that keep them on the D.L.:

The girls who want SRS are ultimately uninteresting to chasers.
The girls who don't want SRS enjoy their buffet lifestyles and soon tire of any one relationship.

[dderek123]

Currently living with my ladyboy girlfriend here in Thailand. We love each other and most people say we make a good couple. She just landed a sales and marketing position with a large real estate company and her office will be located close to where I work. Soon we will be getting a house or condo together. Things are rolling along just fine with very few bumps in the road. She is very feminine and quite stealth but those that do know are very surprised but don't seem to be bothered all that much.

I moved over here to live my life like this and I am happier than a pig in shit.

This lady inspired me a whole lot.

YouTube - Ayn Rand on the Pursuit of Happiness (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUkUobSjyQk)

[nonnonnon]

Wow, 45 guys so far answered yes in the poll. But it can't be like that in real life in transgirls are always complaining that it's hard to find a good man.

emphasis on good, obviously. If everyone just lowered their standards... :praying:

[CORVETTEDUDE]

I answered the second 'Yes'. I don't see it happening but, I wouldn't view it, in a personal manner, differently than any other relationship. It takes two people, focused on love, respect, understanding, compromise and support, to make ANY relationship successful. Getting married, really has nothing to do with it.

[blutch]

It is not in my plan. But, if i like her and if she like me, we could get a serious relationship.

For my friends and my family, it could be a trouble. In a fisrt time, i could not tell them she is a TS. If the relation is really serious, i could if she want it. I can do it for my real friend, event if i may loss some.

In a fact, is it really important for a TS to be introduce like a TS ? Or does she prefer to be a girl ? She is my girl, is not she.


note : sorry my english is not really good ;)

[south ov da border]

Currently living with my ladyboy girlfriend here in Thailand. We love each other and most people say we make a good couple. She just landed a sales and marketing position with a large real estate company and her office will be located close to where I work. Soon we will be getting a house or condo together. Things are rolling along just fine with very few bumps in the road. She is very feminine and quite stealth but those that do know are very surprised but don't seem to be bothered all that much.

I moved over here to live my life like this and I am happier than a pig in shit.

This lady inspired me a whole lot.

YouTube - Ayn Rand on the Pursuit of Happiness (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUkUobSjyQk)


Rand was always on the real stuff. Personally I would but I've had some face to face conversations with some but no intimate contact. I could see myself with anyone as long as we click, so I could go for it. Maybe I'd change my mind if I've been thru the intimate part of it, BUT I doubt it...

[innocentbychoice]

Currently living with my ladyboy girlfriend here in Thailand. We love each other and most people say we make a good couple. She just landed a sales and marketing position with a large real estate company and her office will be located close to where I work. Soon we will be getting a house or condo together. Things are rolling along just fine with very few bumps in the road. She is very feminine and quite stealth but those that do know are very surprised but don't seem to be bothered all that much.

I moved over here to live my life like this and I am happier than a pig in shit.

This lady inspired me a whole lot.

YouTube - Ayn Rand on the Pursuit of Happiness (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUkUobSjyQk)

Your story is awesome. I'm glad to hear things are good for you, and that she's got a great job. Now, does your family know about her and that she's a ts?

[innocentbychoice]

He's not your average guy on this forum. He's gay. None of the other guys on this forum are gay. LOL.

I like cock...attached to men not women, so I guess that makes me a lot different ;).

[MrsKellyPierce]

Some of us lived as girls when we were in HIGH SCHOOL FYI

Ashley, myself, and many others.

so we wouldn't really be lying about our school life or past lol

And even when I was little I played with girl stuff and played dress up...there are actually pictures of me in princess outfits etc and holding a my little pony.

Some of the stereotypes on here...grrrrrrrr

Lets face it most of the men on here would throw us under the bus if anyone found out.

I for one would love to see some of the men that are interested in us join our fight.

Not many do....

[innocentbychoice]

Some of us lived as girls when we were in HIGH SCHOOL FYI

Ashley, myself, and many others.

so we wouldn't really be lying about our school life or past lol

And even when I was little I played with girl stuff and played dress up...there are actually pictures of me in princess outfits etc and holding a my little pony.

Some of the stereotypes on here...grrrrrrrr

Lets face it most of the men on here would throw us under the bus if anyone found out.

I for one would love to see some of the men that are interested in us join our fight.

Not many do....

Hey Kelly. So how did you meet your husband? Did he know you are a ts?

[MrsKellyPierce]

Hey Kelly. So how did you meet your husband? Did he know you are a ts?
Actually he met me through facebook - he didn't know I was a transsexual/pornstar at first....the first time I turned him down. Then he grew on me.

[innocentbychoice]

^Ok, cool.

[Caff_Racer]

Lets face it most of the men on here would throw us under the bus if anyone found out.


That's a pretty harsh thing to hear, but unfortunately you're probably right... It's a pity that those of us who don't think that way get tarred with the same brush though...

[JoePitt]

Then he grew on me.

Like a fungus? There are shots for that. ;)

[BLKGSXR]

As long as they are not in the scene of course like as soon as we start dating boom gone!

[gjamestgirlfan]

I have been seeing a transexual girl now for 4 years and im proud of it. i used to be a real girl chaser until i found out about transexual woman and much much better and im not just stating about the obvious, is soo many other sides to a transexual girl, i know each girl is different to the other but have more to offer than a genetic girl to me

[dderek123]

Rand was always on the real stuff. Personally I would but I've had some face to face conversations with some but no intimate contact. I could see myself with anyone as long as we click, so I could go for it. Maybe I'd change my mind if I've been thru the intimate part of it, BUT I doubt it...

Well I felt like that for a long while. But I had to try it because I thought I would regret it for a long time if I didn't go for it.

The intimate part isn't that different to be honest except for the anatomy.

[Jackal]

I have been seeing a transexual girl now for 4 years and im proud of it. i used to be a real girl chaser until i found out about transexual woman and much much better and im not just stating about the obvious, is soo many other sides to a transexual girl, i know each girl is different to the other but have more to offer than a genetic girl to me


Good for you, she looks beautiful. Are you Greek or in Greece?

[gjamestgirlfan]

No i was in Thailand, a beautiful country

[dogsandcats]

I was in a relationship with a ts woman for 8 years. Broke it off about 8 months ago. She is completely passable and my parents didn't know her t. She didn't want them to know. Some of my friends knew but it wasn't a big deal.

[Instrumental]

I voted for the first option but really, the first two apply to me. I'm not specifically looking for a transgendered woman and thus am not planning on it but if I happened to meet such a girl I'd have no issue dating her.

[a994]

I would be willing. I'm not necessarily trying to date anyone now, but when I am interested in dating again (I gotta change some things in my life first, some things beyond my control right now must change as well--it's a long story), I would be open to dating a transsexual. Long term? If our relationship goes well, I don't see why not.

[Martin C.]

I'm married with a TRAVESTI for 2 years and it is being the best choice I"ve done.

[nonnonnon]

the more I think about it, I think I've seen one too many episodes of that show Cheaters and it makes me paranoid. why can't I just win the lottery and retire to the land of smiles :yayo:

[stevenb432000]

Of course I could, to me she is a woman....

[Dkg]

Depends on if I liked/loved her enough to want to take it to that level. Sure there is some hesitation taking it to that level but I've always wanted to find a ts woman who I could connect with and be with not just for sex.

[phobun]

I like cock...attached to men not women, so I guess that makes me a lot different ;).


Is your name Tom Moore?

[RubyTS]

hate to say this but truth be told the majority of guys on this board are middle aged overweight and/or unattractive tranny chasers who would love the opportunity to have a cock to suck every night. just saying... dont wait for your parents to die of old age before you feel comfortable finding happinesss for yourself. no tranny wants a middle aged/old man unless he can provide financially. The same way the guys on this board regard sex appeal to be a big factor in being with a ts, so do we

[amberskyi]

hate to say this but truth be told the majority of guys on this board are middle aged overweight and/or unattractive tranny chasers who would love the opportunity to have a cock to suck every night. just saying... dont wait for your parents to die of old age before you feel comfortable finding happinesss for yourself. no tranny wants a middle aged/old man unless he can provide financially. The same way the guys on this board regard sex appeal to be a big factor in being with a ts, so do we

i see im not the only one whos having a lame saturday night lol

[onmyknees]

hate to say this but truth be told the majority of guys on this board are middle aged overweight and/or unattractive tranny chasers who would love the opportunity to have a cock to suck every night. just saying... dont wait for your parents to die of old age before you feel comfortable finding happinesss for yourself. no tranny wants a middle aged/old man unless he can provide financially. The same way the guys on this board regard sex appeal to be a big factor in being with a ts, so do we

Interesting how you would know that Ruby...You know what turns men off ( and trust me on this) more than a fugly tranny with a base face ?

Sweeping generalizations and drama queens who sit on a perch in judgement of everyoine else. You're a chick with a dick for christ sakes...not Dr. Freud ,and you're posting on HA on Saturday night in NYC !! Get the fuck over yourself baby !! LMAO...just sayin. :dancing:

[amberskyi]

Interesting how you would know that Ruby...You know what turns men off ( and trust me on this) more than a fugly tranny with a base face ?

Sweeping generalizations and drama queens who sit on a perch in judgement of everyoine else. You're a chick with a dick for christ sakes...not Dr. Freud ,and you're posting on HA on Saturday night in NYC !! Get the fuck over yourself baby !! LMAO...just sayin. :dancing:

uh she doesnt live in ny.
and why you mad for??its not like what she saying isnt true.go thru the post and see how long alot of these guys been members? i was noticing that the other day.i was like damn alot of these guys are old lol.
and what does she having a dick has to do with anything?? because she's a tranny she doesnt have the privilege of expressing her opinions???
sounds like you sir need to get over yourself!!!!

[dderek123]

Yeah I agree with Ruby. Make a move before you turn into a chaser!

[flabbybody]

hate to say this but truth be told the majority of guys on this board are middle aged overweight and/or unattractive tranny chasers who would love the opportunity to have a cock to suck every night. just saying... dont wait for your parents to die of old age before you feel comfortable finding happinesss for yourself. no tranny wants a middle aged/old man unless he can provide financially. The same way the guys on this board regard sex appeal to be a big factor in being with a ts, so do we

we're not all fat and ugly... just a little middle aged.
And yea, lot of us can provide financially

[T$420]

I don't consider myself old, overweight or ugly...and yeah, if I found the right girl, I would absolutely have a serious, monogomous relationship with her...

[RubyTS]

thanks for the defense amber. im actually having a great saturday night at home with my friends and my beauty regimen, and preparing for my upcoming new england tour. I spent the whole day on the phone with my hubby and im being a good girl tonight. I dont need to go out every weekend, actually im rather content in my solitude. if u take what i say personally then u obviously have a guilty conscience, and maybe you should take those issues up with a psychiatrist or a plastic surgeon? All im saying is 90% of the guys here, i, as well as the majority of my friends, would not give a second glance at a club or on the street. and the other 10% would ruin whatever chances they had by simply opening up their mouths. This doesnt mean that i think im better than anyone in here, or fulll of myself. Actually quite the contrary. Anyone who knows me knows that i am one of the most down to earth girls you could meet. some people may have a problem with my opinions or my blunt nature, but you'll get over it

[T$420]

So what you're saying is, 100% of the guys on here would not have a chance with you or your friends??? Yeah, you're right, you are completely down to earth...lmfao!

[RubyTS]

lol what does mine or my friends attractions have to do with how down to earth i am? of all the years ive been on here, there was only 1 guy who was physically on point for me, we chatted a lot and had really cool conversations. Now all he ever talks about is cock size. id still talk to most you guys as friends, but i cant help it that im picky.

Do another pole asking the girls if THEY would date any guys here on HA and who, and i bet u i can predict the outcome

[a994]

So what you're saying is, 100% of the guys on here would not have a chance with you or your friends??? Yeah, you're right, you are completely down to earth...lmfao!

Yeah, it would be nice if the ladies would give us overweight, ugly middle-aged guys SOMETHING to hope for or at least dream about. :lol:

[T$420]

You said the other 10% of us would ruin it as soon as we opened our mouths? Yeah, don't really define that as down to earth, but whatever...you're not my type anyway...

[RubyTS]

lol

personality goes a long way. Unfortunately the ones who have it usually arent physically up to par, and the ones who are physically up to par have no personality. whats a girl to do? lol

im so glad i found my soul mate and i genuinely wish all those DESERVING happiness. If you dont love, your not living life, your merely surviving it.

[RubyTS]

You said the other 10% of us would ruin it as soon as we opened our mouths? Yeah, don't really define that as down to earth, but whatever...you're not my type anyway...

you made my point for me u 10%er lol. who said anything about u n me anyway? hold ur horses big boy im a married woman

[a994]

lol

personality goes a long way. Unfortunately the ones who have it usually arent physically up to par, and the ones who are physically up to par have no personality.

Oh, that's cool. Other than your aforementioned masculine categories, most of us men are okay after all. What a relief.:party:



i genuinely wish all those DESERVING happiness.

Just out of curiosity Ruby, who would you define as those who are deserving of happiness?

[nonnonnon]

you could tell us what not to say? :p

[fastingforlife]

I am 56, in a three year relationship with a 32 year old TS woman who I don't support financially. My good looks have faded, and I am caring around too much weight, but she still loves me, and I her.

[RubyTS]

lol some guys are so cute until they open up their mouths. i cant tell anyone what to say, either your personalities mesh or they dont. my boyfriend hooked me with his persistance and his personality. i fell in love with everything else after. and yeah most of u guys are ok, some need a little more guidance than others, i dont mind educating and being friends. but the truth is a lot of guys arent on here for relationships or even dating. and when i do allow some guys in, and try my best to be a friend, im often insulted by classless flirts and random odd sexual comments. my best advice would be just be yourself and be honest and know what it is that YOU want but from what i notice here a lot of HA guys dont even know what they want and still struggle with their attractions
I mean some girls hate guys that only want sex, but what they hate even more is a guy pretending he doesnt and playing with girls emotions. . maybe i dont like it but im sure there are girls who do and everybody can appreciate an honest person.

[amberskyi]

you made my point for me u 10%er lol. who said anything about u n me anyway? hold ur horses big boy im a married woman

ahaha witty what you did with the word loser lol

[RubyTS]

lol in the nammmmmmmme siistaaaA (MABEL VOICE)

[amberskyi]

lol in the nammmmmmmme siistaaaA (MABEL VOICE)

LMFAO! she is a kiki to listen to. TURN IT,TRUST (MABEL VOICE) LOL

[Silcc69]

aMBER WHAT THE hell r u drakin n ur avatar?

[IMISSHER]

You're a married woman who is still taking on clients...your hubby must be so proud...

ditto the above... your a married woman and u still have sex with men for money... then u go home to your husband,,, u just cant make this shit up... God help him.

[flabbybody]

way to end a good thread guys

[onmyknees]

thanks for the defense amber. im actually having a great saturday night at home with my friends and my beauty regimen, and preparing for my upcoming new england tour. I spent the whole day on the phone with my hubby and im being a good girl tonight. I dont need to go out every weekend, actually im rather content in my solitude. if u take what i say personally then u obviously have a guilty conscience, and maybe you should take those issues up with a psychiatrist or a plastic surgeon? All im saying is 90% of the guys here, i, as well as the majority of my friends, would not give a second glance at a club or on the street. and the other 10% would ruin whatever chances they had by simply opening up their mouths. This doesnt mean that i think im better than anyone in here, or fulll of myself. Actually quite the contrary. Anyone who knows me knows that i am one of the most down to earth girls you could meet. some people may have a problem with my opinions or my blunt nature, but you'll get over it

I've noticed that's how alot of you gurls reconcile the nasty shit that you come on here and post....you turn it back on the person that confronts you about your sweeping, usually incorrect generalazations. There's an art to making a cogent point, and it's not with a flame thrower ! You throw this stuff out there, and then are somewhat taken back when you get shit thrown back at you. The point is Ruby...that you may be the sweetest, most down to earth person that ever graced us with your words, but that just didn't come across in your post. Too late to hit the rewind button...and that's a pity cause prior to this I would have loved to check you out on your New England tour, but you'll get over it !! LOL

[flabbybody]

I hate taking sides here but a lot of guys here are way too easily offended. Ruby simply referred to her lack of physical attraction to older out of shape men. It's a fact of life. To pretend younger woman love us like our mothers is like the proverbial ostrich with their head in the sand.
And getting shitty with her won't change the sad reality that young girls dig young guys. and it was totally low class to bring up what she does for a living as a way of attacking her.

stop acting like assholes. you're making daryl look good

[amberskyi]

You're a married woman who is still taking on clients...your hubby must be so proud...

you know ZERO about her and here circumstances so why dont you do us a favor and SHUT UP!!

[amberskyi]

[QUOTE=Silcc69;858631]aMBER WHAT THE hell r u drakin n ur avatar?[/QUOTE
cheap bubbly :)

[onmyknees]

I hate taking sides here but a lot of guys here are way too easily offended. Ruby simply referred to her lack of physical attraction to older out of shape men. It's a fact of life. To pretend younger woman love us like our mothers is like the proverbial ostrich with their head in the sand.
And getting shitty with her won't change the sad reality that young girls dig young guys. and it was totally low class to bring up what she does for a living as a way of attacking her.

stop acting like assholes. you're making daryl look good

Flabby....i respect your thoughts, and I'm certainly not taking it personally...this is a tranny forum and I get that, but I think her original post went a little further than simply saying she liked younger guys. That's just my opinion. Some guys won't confront these ladies no matter what outrageous shit they say...I suppose they have a fantasy that someday they'll meet one of these gurls and have a relationship...memo to those dudes..unless you have a fistfull of dollars some of these gurls aren't going to give you the time of day! I have no such illusions, and there's certain people on here ( guy and gurl) that talk shit. I confront Daryl and Freddie as much as anyone...so I'm not hatin' on Gurls. Ruby actually surprised me cause she's not normally like that...The vast majority of ladies on here I have nothing but love for..Could I have framed my response to her differently? Sure. But I despise sweeping generalazations and condesention, be they directed to ( or from ) men, gays, CD's GG's or TS.

[T$420]

All im saying is 90% of the guys here, i, as well as the majority of my friends, would not give a second glance at a club or on the street. and the other 10% would ruin whatever chances they had by simply opening up their mouths.

That is talking shit right there....I'm a counter puncher babe, I won't throw out the first one, but if you can dish it, you better be able to take it too...

[Odelay]

The entertainment quotient always goes up when Ruby gets involved in these threads. :party:

[Caff_Racer]

All im saying is 90% of the guys here, i, as well as the majority of my friends, would not give a second glance at a club or on the street. and the other 10% would ruin whatever chances they had by simply opening up their mouths.


Nowt new there, then: that's the standard issue statement from GGs and TGs around the world. Let's face it lads, if you don't have: a) the face of the male actor of the moment, b) the body of a world-class athlete, and c) the financial clout of Bill Gates, Roman Abramovitch and the Sultan of Brunei all rolled into one, you're not even going to get the slightest whiff of a look-in (notice that I haven't remarked on any intellectual ability: if you possess points a), b) and c), you can be as thick as mince - think Cristiano Ronaldo - but the girls don't care, because you've got it made).

On the other hand if, like myself, you're an average bloke in the street, 40 years old, reasonably articulate and intelligent, funny, well-mannered, considerate, etc. (selling myself hard, here! :lol: ) but that you're a bit tubby (damn it, I'm a foodie!), with average looks, and you have to work your arse off to have money in your pocket, well in that case you can go swivel, because to all intents and purposes you'll be as see-through as the Invisible Man, and then some.

No, I'm not being bitter (damn - reminds me that there's no beer in the house... :cheers: ); I got over that stage years ago, but all the same it is a bit of a ball-ache trying to be Mr Nice Bloke all the time, only to get slapped in the face.

Anyway after my wee rant (sorry for the "tocho" - brick - as they say here in Spain), to answer the O.P.'s question: yes I would have a serious relationship with a t-girl if the opportunity arose.

Right then, I'm off to get that beer! ;-)

[audifan]

Nowt new there, then: that's the standard issue statement from GGs and TGs around the world. Let's face it lads, if you don't have: a) the face of the male actor of the moment, b) the body of a world-class athlete, and c) the financial clout of Bill Gates, Roman Abramovitch and the Sultan of Brunei all rolled into one, you're not even going to get the slightest whiff of a look-in (notice that I haven't remarked on any intellectual ability: if you possess points a), b) and c), you can be as thick as mince - think Cristiano Ronaldo - but the girls don't care, because you've got it made).

On the other hand if, like myself, you're an average bloke in the street, 40 years old, reasonably articulate and intelligent, funny, well-mannered, considerate, etc. (selling myself hard, here! :lol: ) but that you're a bit tubby (damn it, I'm a foodie!), with average looks, and you have to work your arse off to have money in your pocket, well in that case you can go swivel, because to all intents and purposes you'll be as see-through as the Invisible Man, and then some.

No, I'm not being bitter (damn - reminds me that there's no beer in the house... :cheers: ); I got over that stage years ago, but all the same it is a bit of a ball-ache trying to be Mr Nice Bloke all the time, only to get slapped in the face.

Anyway after my wee rant (sorry for the "tocho" - brick - as they say here in Spain), to answer the O.P.'s question: yes I would have a serious relationship with a t-girl if the opportunity arose.

Right then, I'm off to get that beer! ;-)

Caff, what you say is and always has been generally true of young, pretty girls. They're not young and pretty forever and they often work it for what they can get while they can get it. It's not universally true, personality can trump good looks and wealth, but only if she's open to it, which she may well not be.

Not saying this is you, but picking up on what you wrote; personally I always think it's unrealistic for any middle aged bloke to try to pick up flighty young things who they have little in common with. For me, it seems more sensible to seek out attractive women nearer to the guy's age, who may actually want him as a boyfriend. Not as easy to find as the pretty young things out decorating the clubs looking for boys, but probably more worthwhile to seek out. Just my 2c :)

[amberskyi]

what i find beyond interesting is that you guys are actually surprised/mad because young girls arent interested in older guys(and yes 40 is older for women in my age group).i mean come on, yal'll need to be realistic.why not just go after girls in the same age group as you?its no big surprise that people want to hook up with people they find attractive.how many guys here would date a ts girl who may be very sweet and down to earth but not very passable at all with overtly masculine features??
im personally not too big on looks.you have to be some kind of attractive but i love dorky guys to death.if you can make me laugh,have stimulating conversations,have a love of horror movies and can booze with me im yours.

[Caff_Racer]

Amberskyi, I'm not mad/surprised/having a fit of the vapours. If I was, my comment would have been much more scathing, instead of being largely tongue-in-cheek. On the other hand, 40 isn't that old nowadays (and on a personal note I don't actually look my age: people always think I'm in my early thirties for some reason), and I think that I could get away with courting (I like that old-fashioned term :) ) a young woman in her mid-twenties, let's say, without looking too much like "mutton dressed as lamb". ;-)

[RubyTS]

lol awww im sorry if i hurt anyones feelings, that was never my intention. im also sorry im not as easily offended as some of the male posters on here. if i were to take offense to half of the things some guys say id have been driven crazy a long time ago. My bluntness can definitely get the best of me sometimes, and if anyone took what i said as a personal attack against them, they sadly have their own demons to confront. There are so many nice guys on here who are a blast to talk to, sadly the odds of them having anything serious with half of the girls they show interest in is merely fantasy. And then there are the younger (some might consider more attractive) guys on here who ruin any chances they might have had based on their looks with pure ignorance and stupidity. This is a fact

[phobun]

lol awww im sorry if i hurt anyones feelings, that was never my intention.


Chasers tend to be insecure hypersensitive crybabies about issues like age, body size, weight, height, hair, money, status, dick size, hand size, toe size, femur length, etc. etc. etc.

They're more vainly obsessive and easily hurt than any girl.

And don't call them gay either.

[amberskyi]

As long as they are not in the scene of course like as soon as we start dating boom gone!
very interesting since your pretty much in the scene yourself....

[Caff_Racer]

Well you didn't hurt my feelings or offend me, RubyTS! As for your bluntness, I like people who call a spade a spade (in this day and age of ridiculous political correctness it's getting harder to find)! :cheers:

My comment was just that: a comment, not a criticism or a gripe.

Of course, the first person to call me grandpa is going to get me boot up their arse!! :dead:

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[phobun]

very interesting since your pretty much in the scene yourself....


He is not your typical dude trying to score though. He tries to be a friend, not another chaser in search of an orgasm.

[T$420]

You didn't hurt my feelings, your statement was just ignorant & stupid...the fact of the matter is I pull way hotter girls than you, so to hear that you wouldn't give any guys on this entire board the time of day-without paying you of course, when you haven't met or seen 90% of us, is a short sided generalization that makes you look ridiculous...

[phobun]

Of course, the first person to call me grandpa is going to get me boot up their arse!!


At 40, if you have enough sugar, you can get called daddy. And so... lots of 40 year old men find their soul-mates with 23 year olds.

The 23 year old girls thank heaven that most of the old fogeys leave for the office during the day.

[phobun]

the fact of the matter is I pull way hotter girls than you


This is usually a bluff. Most guys realize its not true, unlike their insistence that they are straight.

[beandip]

Pretty stupid "choices" to pick from.

...it all depends on if she was all butt hurt and hung up about having a dick.

If she's ok with it...and not one of those "I hate my dick" types... yea, no prob.

[T$420]

This is usually a bluff. Most guys realize its not true, unlike their insistence that they are straight.

Usually...but not this time...

[phobun]

If she's ok with it...and not one of those "I hate my dick" types... yea, no prob.


Too bad girls have to get hate for having gender dysphoria from guys who only love them for their dicks.

[Martin C.]

I'm having a serious relationship with a shemale for 2 years. Yeah, we had some disturbing facts ... like with my family. My mother does not talk to me like before I admitted I was dating a shemale and this fact bothered me for a long time. Now I"m in peace with myself 'cause I admitted to me that the shemale I'm married makes me a GAY person, and when you admit that you're gay (not the ordinary gay that likes men) your life gets better.

[phobun]

I'm having a serious relationship with a shemale for 2 years. Yeah, we had some disturning facts ... like with my family. My mother does not talk to me like before I admitted I was dating a shemale and this fact bothered me for a long time. Now I"m in peace with myself 'cause I admitted to me that the shemale I'm married makes me a GAY person, and when you admit that you're gay (not the ordinary gay that likes men) your life gets better.


If you were married to anyone other than a guy in a skirt you wouldn't refer to her as a shemale.

[RubyTS]

You didn't hurt my feelings, your statement was just ignorant & stupid...the fact of the matter is I pull way hotter girls than you, so to hear that you wouldn't give any guys on this entire board the time of day-without paying you of course, when you haven't met or seen 90% of us, is a short sided generalization that makes you look ridiculous...

obviously

[amberskyi]

If you were married to anyone other than a guy in a skirt you wouldn't refer to her as a shemale.

i was about to say the same thing.if he really was dating a ts woman he would know WE ALL without exception hate that word

[T$420]

Yeah, it is true, I do pull hotter girls than you & I don't have to pay for it either...my feelings aren't hurt because I stated that fact...I'm just calling you out after that statement you made which sounded like you think your shit doesn't stink...

[fred41]

This is usually a bluff. Most guys realize its not true, unlike their insistence that they are straight.

In his case, it might...in fact be true. (the statements from the guys out west seem to indicate this).
...but when you're very good looking....hooking up with girls is not hard...the hard part comes in keeping one.

...then you have to lose your vanity and become interesting. (by the way ...I'm not referring to you T420 with this last statement...just people in general)

[amberskyi]

obviously

lol.why is this dude all on your ish for? is there t? did he try to kick it to you and you ignored him or something lol.

[T$420]

Getting back to the original point of this thread, I would have a serious relationship with a ts, and yes Fred, you are right, relationships take work to maintain, but for the right girl, it would be worth it...

[RubyTS]

Yeah, it is true, I do pull hotter girls than you & I don't have to pay for it either...my feelings aren't hurt because I stated that fact...I'm just calling you out after that statement you made which sounded like you think your shit doesn't stink...

YouTube - Super Rooty Tooty Fresh & Fruity! "My P**** Smells Like Roses" w/LYRICS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7Q1XszLC9U)

[nonnonnon]

I agree with what you're saying but you knew how someone would react when you say everyone on here is old, gross, broke and has a shitty personality. Some of these can be helped but getting old is unavoidable even for you

[Admiral]

Amazing how few posters come off well in this thread

[T$420]

lol.why is this dude all on your ish for? is there t? did he try to kick it to you and you ignored him or something lol.

I have no issue with her, Amber. But she seemed less than humble by saying what she said...I've never heard you say anything like that as you seem cool and down to earth...I'm just sticking up for all the guys on this site who she dissed with her comments...

[RubyTS]

lol.why is this dude all on your ish for? is there t? did he try to kick it to you and you ignored him or something lol.

idk girl, u would think so right?

[RubyTS]

I have no issue with her, Amber. But she seemed less than humble by saying what she said...I've never heard you say anything like that as you seem cool and down to earth...I'm just sticking up for all the guys on this site who she dissed with her comments...

ok superman, so its your job to humble me? way to save the day lol. i would call u egotistical but its obvious to me that ur self esteem is shot. and btw, i get way hotter guys than u too

[Martin C.]

Yeah, I got your message, however let me try to decode it: you did not like the term SHEMALE. Here in Brazil we use different terms to describe a shemale. TRAVESTI is the worst, 'cause it remember us about those who are prostitutes on the streets, but that's what they are TRAVESTIS. They try to use " TRANS; BONECA; TRAVA " etc aiming to attenuate the negative perspective of them, but we should see them like they are: for me SHEMALE (in other countries) or TRAVESTI here in Brazil.

[Martin C.]

Dear RubyTS, I got your message, however let me try to decode it: you didn't like the term SHEMALE. I got your point, but like here in Brazil, they try to attenuate the negative perspective everybody has of shemales. Here they are TRAVESTIS, but they use "BONECA, TRAVA " etc trying to attenuate the image of street prostitutes. It must happen there too. Here almost all shemales are hookers, and dating one will not make some close people happy. You know what I mean ???

[innocentbychoice]

Yeah, I got your message, however let me try to decode it: you did not like the term SHEMALE. Here in Brazil we use different terms to describe a shemale. TRAVESTI is the worst, 'cause it remember us about those who are prostitutes on the streets, but that's what they are TRAVESTIS. They try to use " TRANS; BONECA; TRAVA " etc aiming to attenuate the negative perspective of them, but we should see them like they are: for me SHEMALE (in other countries) or TRAVESTI here in Brazil.

So you say "shemale" doesn't have a bad connotation in Brazil. Ok fine, now what about "travesti"? It means, transvestite or crossdresser in english. Are you calling your wife a man in a girl costume?

PS: If you wife is actually a man in drag, it would make total sense that you call yourself gay (as you did in another post) cuz otherwise I don't get it.

[rockabilly]

Not to toot my own horn Amber but I can be charming , am quite dorky at times , love horror movies and deep conversations about life and spirituality vs religion but i don't drink ... on the bright side that would mean more booze for you though. :)

[MrF]

It would be best to get back to the thread and not worry about personal injuries here. I don't think anyone wins these arguments and it just distracts us.

I've already contributed to this thread, but I'll reiterate that yes, I would consider a serious relationship if the opportunity arose.

On the matter of age differences, I agree that an age diff of over 10 years is usually not realistic. There's always exceptions, see James Bond movies -- ok, those are fantasies for the most part. For some folks no compromise on looks is possible. This is clear, and it's simply how the world works. But for many folks, especially after they've had experience, a higher priority may be placed on how nice you are, your empathy, and indeed your financial and social status. Of course, either way it's a competition. And as people on this thread have already pointed out, the most challenging part is making a relationship last. It's a source of deep happiness when it does. Well, good luck to all of you in finding happiness.

[dogsandcats]

Dear RubyTS, I got your message, however let me try to decode it: you didn't like the term SHEMALE. I got your point, but like here in Brazil, they try to attenuate the negative perspective everybody has of shemales. Here they are TRAVESTIS, but they use "BONECA, TRAVA " etc trying to attenuate the image of street prostitutes. It must happen there too. Here almost all shemales are hookers, and dating one will not make some close people happy. You know what I mean ???

transgendered woman? ever try that one?

[dogsandcats]

thanks for the defense amber. im actually having a great saturday night at home with my friends and my beauty regimen, and preparing for my upcoming new england tour. I spent the whole day on the phone with my hubby and im being a good girl tonight. I dont need to go out every weekend, actually im rather content in my solitude. if u take what i say personally then u obviously have a guilty conscience, and maybe you should take those issues up with a psychiatrist or a plastic surgeon? All im saying is 90% of the guys here, i, as well as the majority of my friends, would not give a second glance at a club or on the street. and the other 10% would ruin whatever chances they had by simply opening up their mouths. This doesnt mean that i think im better than anyone in here, or fulll of myself. Actually quite the contrary. Anyone who knows me knows that i am one of the most down to earth girls you could meet. some people may have a problem with my opinions or my blunt nature, but you'll get over it

Saying something loudly and bluntly doesn't mean it's correct. :)

[dderek123]

Yeah this was a good thread until ...

[amberskyi]

Yeah this was a good thread until ...
my girlfriend popped alot of yall bubbles

[Ryz]

You're a married woman who is still taking on clients...your hubby must be so proud...

I hope hes fucking other girls. If not, he's just a sucker :dancing:

[dderek123]

Suckers are not uncommon. In Bangkok there is a trend happening where old white men are marrying prostitutes 30 years younger than them and then telling their sob stories back at the bar with their drinking mates after she takes him for as much money she (and her family) can get.

[dderek123]

my girlfriend popped alot of yall bubbles
Yep it's not as nice as champagne bubbles.

And then all the butthurt reactions. Ruby clearly stated her observation was cast over the majority of the guys here and not all of them.

[rockabilly]

I'm not offended at all , I'm secure w/ myself and status. :shrug

[nonnonnon]

Suckers are not uncommon. In Bangkok there is a trend happening where old white men marrying prostitutes 30 years younger than them and then telling their sob stories back at the bar with their drinking mates after she takes him for as much money she (and her family) can get.

this is my fear. I get so attached even to working girls :hide-1:

[Ryz]

That's why I'm going to marry an ugly girl. So she doesn't ever leave me

[dderek123]

An old colleague of mine used to say that it's best not to marry a pretty woman if you want to sleep well at night.

[rockabilly]

That's why I'm going to marry an ugly girl. So she doesn't ever leave me

And fat too ... that way if she runs away she won't get far.

[dogsandcats]

my girlfriend popped alot of yall bubbles

What bubble did she pop?

She is pretty but she is talking shit about the same type of guy that she is probably fucking for money. Put another way....I don't think that puts her on some sort of high ground to talk from since she is probably fucking the same middle aged dumb sounding men for money that she is complaining about. I could care less if she hooks but don't act like a precious queen and make it seem like she is so much better than those johns that hire her.

And back to the topic of the thread....I would be in another relationship with a ts but I'm not gonna play captain save a hoe like I tried to do for so long with my ex. We were together for 8 years.

[dderek123]

Yeah I have had that experience as well. Being a captain save a hoe can be so exhausting in a monogamous relationship. After a while I realized I was still with her because I wanted to make sure she was content somehow. *shudder*

[south ov da border]

relationships are tricky, especially when the people aren't at the same place in life. I've been left high and dry, and have bailed out while I could as well. I wonder what a relationship with a Tgirl would be like. At least there won't be any surprise babies popping up...

[nonnonnon]

I guess you can't marry in florida if you're trans... I don't like it here anyways

[innocentbychoice]

162 so far have said yes. That's nice. Let's keep this thread going.

So let's ask something else related to the topic, to the guys who said "yes", would you prefer to have a serious relationship with a pre-op or a post op? If she's a pre-op, would you rather be with a top, a bottom, someone versatile, or it doesn't matter to you?

[south ov da border]

no you can't marry here in Florida. It's a shame...

[nonnonnon]

I think post-op is the best of both worlds but it's a real roll of the dice getting the surgery. Sometimes you get a perfect one like Danielle Foxx and sometimes it looks like a horrible wound

[RubyTS]

my girlfriend popped alot of yall bubbles

lmfaooooooooooooo

[dogsandcats]

lmfaooooooooooooo

whats so funny?:confused:

[audifan]

162 so far have said yes. That's nice. Let's keep this thread going.

So let's ask something else related to the topic, to the guys who said "yes", would you prefer to have a serious relationship with a pre-op or a post op? If she's a pre-op, would you rather be with a top, a bottom, someone versatile, or it doesn't matter to you?

To me post-op = girl, pre-op = tgirl (physically), so I answered the poll question as relating to pre-op only, and I'm top only so would seek compatibility.

[audifan]

I think post-op is the best of both worlds but it's a real roll of the dice getting the surgery. Sometimes you get a perfect one like Danielle Foxx and sometimes it looks like a horrible wound


Agree Danielle looks beautiful. I don't know if that was luck or a good surgeon.

[Instrumental]

162 so far have said yes. That's nice. Let's keep this thread going.

So let's ask something else related to the topic, to the guys who said "yes", would you prefer to have a serious relationship with a pre-op or a post op? If she's a pre-op, would you rather be with a top, a bottom, someone versatile, or it doesn't matter to you?

Post op just because it seems most pre-op transgendered women are not comfortable with using what they have and having sex with someone who doesn't want to have their stuff touched or used in anyway is majorly lame and pretty much contradictory to what sex is.

[RubyTS]

What bubble did she pop?

She is pretty but she is talking shit about the same type of guy that she is probably fucking for money. Put another way....I don't think that puts her on some sort of high ground to talk from since she is probably fucking the same middle aged dumb sounding men for money that she is complaining about. I could care less if she hooks but don't act like a precious queen and make it seem like she is so much better than those johns that hire her.

And back to the topic of the thread....I would be in another relationship with a ts but I'm not gonna play captain save a hoe like I tried to do for so long with my ex. We were together for 8 years.


What bubble did she pop?

She is pretty but she is talking shit about the same type of guy that she is probably fucking for money. Put another way....I don't think that puts her on some sort of high ground to talk from since she is probably fucking the same middle aged dumb sounding men for money that she is complaining about. I could care less if she hooks but don't act like a precious queen and make it seem like she is so much better than those johns that hire her.

And back to the topic of the thread....I would be in another relationship with a ts but I'm not gonna play captain save a hoe like I tried to do for so long with my ex. We were together for 8 years.

Thank you =) but im not acting like a precious queen or standing on high ground as u said. i simply stated that i wouldnt date anyone here, with good reason. And i really like my fat hairy older clients lol (they treat me very nice, i just wouldnt be serious with them, and thats ok. Because i dont get upset when guys say they would fuck us but wouldnt date us!) everyone serves a purpose! The sooner some of these guys come to terms with the reality of the situation the better off we all will be. Should we really base relationships on emotion YES, in a perfect world. Do we ever really??? Tell me u dont take into consideration all aspects when involving yourself with someone, how they make u feel about yourself, how hot they are, how good the sex is? And how many women do u know that wont date a guy unless he has a great job and a full head of hair? Lets be real

ive come to terms with the fact that the majority of tslovers are our worst enemies. They degrade us, fetishize us and do not defend us in our fight, instead they hide in shame. They use us, they manipulate us and then they bitch at us for having feelings and being human. They treat us like objects and then complain when we embrace that role. They criticize us and expect perfection of us but are not willing to give of themselves.

And then when they're 35 - 50 yrs old and finally grow up, get lonely and realize their whole life what they wanted but was too pussy to stand up to society, they decide its convenient for them to finally go after it, after buying a sportscar of course lol. and email 20 year old escorts saying they want a relationship and expect us to swoon cuz some old fart is interested in us

[AlwaysAda]

Thank you =) but im not acting like a precious queen or standing on high ground as u said. i simply stated that i wouldnt date anyone here, with good reason. And i really like my fat hairy older clients lol (they treat me very nice, i just wouldnt be serious with them, and thats ok. Because i dont get upset when guys say they would fuck us but wouldnt date us!) everyone serves a purpose! The sooner some of these guys come to terms with the reality of the situation the better off we all will be. Should we really base relationships on emotion YES, in a perfect world. Do we ever really??? Tell me u dont take into consideration all aspects when involving yourself with someone, how they make u feel about yourself, how hot they are, how good the sex is? And how many women do u know that wont date a guy unless he has a great job and a full head of hair? Lets be real

ive come to terms with the fact that the majority of tslovers are our worst enemies. They degrade us, fetishize us and do not defend us in our fight, instead they hide in shame. They use us, they manipulate us and then they bitch at us for having feelings and being human. They treat us like objects and then complain when we embrace that role. They criticize us and expect perfection of us but are not willing to give of themselves.

And then when they're 35 - 50 yrs old and finally grow up, get lonely and realize their whole life what they wanted but was too pussy to stand up to society, they decide its convenient for them to finally go after it, after buying a sportscar of course lol. and email 20 year old escorts saying they want a relationship and expect us to swoon cuz some old fart is interested in us

You ain't never been more right in your life, This pretty much sums it all up! This is why I love you!!! LMFAO

[nonnonnon]

It sounds like you had a few bad eggs

[RubyTS]

love u 2

for gods sake, a relationship means being able to put someone before yourself, and tons of the guys even on a ts admirer website still struggle with acceptance of it themselves, not even secure with it themselves, how on earth will u comfort a person who has to go thru it on a daily basis?\

[BLKGSXR]

love u 2

for gods sake, a relationship means being able to put someone before yourself, and tons of the guys even on a ts admirer website still struggle with acceptance of it themselves, not even secure with it themselves, how on earth will u comfort a person who has to go thru it on a daily basis?\
:geek::iagree:

[melbourne1]

Of course I would, im attracted to women so if I met the right one then yes, no doubt.

[Silcc69]

love u 2

for gods sake, a relationship means being able to put someone before yourself, and tons of the guys even on a ts admirer website still struggle with acceptance of it themselves, not even secure with it themselves, how on earth will u comfort a person who has to go thru it on a daily basis?\

DARYL WASHINGTON WERE ARE You!?

[rockabilly]

DARYL WASHINGTON WERE ARE You!?

Probably banging an Asian CD. :shrug

[Ryz]

DARYL WASHINGTON WERE ARE You!?

He isn't Batman. Lmao

[mikelpo]

Why not? If we both were into each other I'd deffo give it a go!

[dogsandcats]

Thank you =) but im not acting like a precious queen or standing on high ground as u said. i simply stated that i wouldnt date anyone here, with good reason. And i really like my fat hairy older clients lol (they treat me very nice, i just wouldnt be serious with them, and thats ok. Because i dont get upset when guys say they would fuck us but wouldnt date us!) everyone serves a purpose! The sooner some of these guys come to terms with the reality of the situation the better off we all will be. Should we really base relationships on emotion YES, in a perfect world. Do we ever really??? Tell me u dont take into consideration all aspects when involving yourself with someone, how they make u feel about yourself, how hot they are, how good the sex is? And how many women do u know that wont date a guy unless he has a great job and a full head of hair? Lets be real

ive come to terms with the fact that the majority of tslovers are our worst enemies. They degrade us, fetishize us and do not defend us in our fight, instead they hide in shame. They use us, they manipulate us and then they bitch at us for having feelings and being human. They treat us like objects and then complain when we embrace that role. They criticize us and expect perfection of us but are not willing to give of themselves.

And then when they're 35 - 50 yrs old and finally grow up, get lonely and realize their whole life what they wanted but was too pussy to stand up to society, they decide its convenient for them to finally go after it, after buying a sportscar of course lol. and email 20 year old escorts saying they want a relationship and expect us to swoon cuz some old fart is interested in us


Fair enough. I guess I'm different since I was in my relationship from 22-30. I am one of those few good guys. I don't degrade or put down since I've been treated like shit before. I don't want my girls to act like an object because the girls I have seen who act like an object (always wanting pumped or wanting to get some sort of unnecessary work done) usually suck as a person. That being said I am trying to decide if I even want to try to build a relationship with another ts. The relationship I was in didn't end well and I still harbor a lot of resentment from the things that happened. Further, I've seen everything that goes on with the girls and all the drama that can come with it and I don't think I can do this all over again. But who knows....maybe the right girl will come along who actually lives within 150 miles. :tongue:

And yes you are right that we do search for sexual/physical attraction in relationships when that shouldn't be as big of a consideration. That being said I don't want to be with a ts who is bigger and taller than me lol!

Anyhow, before I start rambling on about other stuff I want to say that I do agree with a lot of what you said, because I've seen that too. Sorry for coming off too abrasive earlier. I do understand a lot of the guys are dicks and worthless and treat you gals like something only to be seen behind closed doors. Society does suck with how ts are treated.

[RubyTS]

=)

and that wasnt nice for anyone to wish negative upon my relationship or call my boyfriend any names, especially when you dont know the dynamics of our relationship, I thought ya'll already were all aware by now that i AM leaving the industry and i AM getting married

[onmyknees]

=)

and that wasnt nice for anyone to wish negative upon my relationship or call my boyfriend any names, especially when you dont know the dynamics of our relationship, I thought ya'll already were all aware by now that i AM leaving the industry and i AM getting married

I agree....your relationship was and is off limits to to everyone. I have no knowledge of it, and even if I did....it has nothing to do what you posted. I was pretty tough in my respose, but you were pretty tough in your post, so that's a wash and you're a big gurl. . One's private life should never be fodder for a forum like this.

[Silcc69]

=)

and that wasnt nice for anyone to wish negative upon my relationship or call my boyfriend any names, especially when you dont know the dynamics of our relationship, I thought ya'll already were all aware by now that i AM leaving the industry and i AM getting married


:party::party::party:

[RubyTS]

I agree....your relationship was and is off limits to to everyone. I have no knowledge of it, and even if I did....it has nothing to do what you posted. I was pretty tough in my respose, but you were pretty tough in your post, so that's a wash and you're a big gurl. . One's private life should never be fodder for a forum like this.

very true
seems like some guys on here compete 4 points for low lows. i dont take it personally though im a very hard person to anger. actually i find it more ammusing than anything else the lengths people will go to provoke emotion, but i learned my lesson with sharing too much personal info. either way im really happy and i wish everyone else happiness too even some of the miserable fools on here

[rockabilly]

Congrats and much happiness Ruby.

[RubyTS]

Congrats and much happiness Ruby.

thanks sweety =)

[onmyknees]

very true
seems like some guys on here compete 4 points for low lows. i dont take it personally though im a very hard person to anger. actually i find it more ammusing than anything else the lengths people will go to provoke emotion, but i learned my lesson with sharing too much personal info. either way im really happy and i wish everyone else happiness too even some of the miserable fools on here

Yes....I wouldn't share too much of anything of a personal nature on here. Well you did provoke me, but I'm glad it wasn't personal. I think the reason I was provoked was because I didn't fit the picture you were painting...!! Anyway..we both stand by what we said and that's cool. You're a pretty lady, and wish you much happiness back. Just go a little easier on some of us from now on ! There are a few decent guys around...hey you found one......didn't ya ?? LOL

[LibertyHarkness]

i would date a ts no issue at all x

[onmyknees]

you little fuckin' fuck !! LMAO...Date this !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


You're a hoot Lib !

[RubyTS]

Yes....I wouldn't share too much of anything of a personal nature on here. Well you did provoke me, but I'm glad it wasn't personal. I think the reason I was provoked was because I didn't fit the picture you were painting...!! Anyway..we both stand by what we said and that's cool. You're a pretty lady, and wish you much happiness back. Just go a little easier on some of us from now on ! There are a few decent guys around...hey you found one......didn't ya ?? LOL

lol he took a bit of molding but he was willing to compromise as was i and it was so worth it! i thank god everyday that i never had to deal with his insecurities, family, friends, public was never an issue. he made me very comfortable being me from day 1 and he's super cute and has such a sexy back (omg!) and amazing smile and his duality perfectly coincides with mine. Its almost like we are one perfect person when we are together. We fill in voids where the other lacks, its almost like we were made for each other, and the SEX (Grrrr!) anyways im rambling, i do that when i talk about him lol. no man has ever made me feel more like a person =) he's my everything!!!

[onmyknees]

you sound happy....good for you. I envy you in that regard. Not many ever find thier true soulmate !

But I have to tell ya..........of all the body parts I've heard women describe on a guy that's sexy....I never heard one mention a back !!!!!!!!! LOL...did you mean to say backside?? Must be a girl thing !!LMAO !!

[nonnonnon]

i would date a ts no issue at all x

you some kinda sexual deviant? :)

[innocentbychoice]

This a free forum, I get that but could you guys please keep the convo on topic? Ruby's married life can be discussed by you two in private :). And I say that in the nicest way.

[onmyknees]

This a free forum, I get that but could you guys please keep the convo on topic? Ruby's married life can be discussed by you two in private :). And I say that in the nicest way.

Oh excuse us....let's get back to who's a powerbottom, who's a racist, who's a fag....who's a cockhound....who's a transexual ...you're right...those are pressing issues. So now you have the floor...what is it you'd like to say??... !!!!!!!:) LMAO

[T$420]

This a free forum, I get that but could you guys please keep the convo on topic? Ruby's married life can be discussed by you two in private :). And I say that in the nicest way.

:claps:claps

[RubyTS]

sorry for hijacking but are u writing a book or something?

and yea his back is so sexy, its so strong and his skin is so tight and soft

[T$420]

Where did you meet him?

[innocentbychoice]

sorry for hijacking but are u writing a book or something?

and yea his back is so sexy, its so strong and his skin is so tight and soft

Writing a book? Not right now, but that's a good idea.

[youshouldtrythislol]

Back on topic for a bit, so long as a woman has a great personality, I don't care if she is trans or not.

And now back to off topic conversation.

[T$420]

I think we are all just curious Ruby, since you know...you wouldn't date ANYBODY on this website and all...where did you meet your Soul Mate? I think we all would like some insight on how to pull such an amazing & beautiful girl such as yourself...

[Dkg]

ive come to terms with the fact that the majority of tslovers are our worst enemies. They degrade us, fetishize us and do not defend us in our fight, instead they hide in shame. They use us, they manipulate us and then they bitch at us for having feelings and being human. They treat us like objects and then complain when we embrace that role. They criticize us and expect perfection of us but are not willing to give of themselves.

And then when they're 35 - 50 yrs old and finally grow up, get lonely and realize their whole life what they wanted but was too pussy to stand up to society, they decide its convenient for them to finally go after it, after buying a sportscar of course lol. and email 20 year old escorts saying they want a relationship and expect us to swoon cuz some old fart is interested in us

I don't fit into any of that at all. Also, don't play the victim. You girls use men just as much as they use you. You wouldn't want to date half of the guys who would actually want to date you. You'd rather spend his money and get rides in his sports car. It's not just TS women but all women. And when I say victim, I mean as though you are the only one being played. You are playing each other, that's why it's called a game in most situations.

And when you say willing to "give of themselves" what does that mean? more money? I have yet to find a TS woman who wants to hang out and it NOT be about money. Though it's hard to find that with many women it's damn nigh impossible with TS women. And no, I don't mean cross dressing men.

[T$420]

I have yet to find a TS woman who wants to hang out and it NOT be about money. Though it's hard to find that with many women it's damn nigh impossible with TS women. And no, I don't mean cross dressing men.

That's not entirely true brother...maybe you need to get the fuck out of DC, lol...

The last 3 ts girls I've hung out with haven't asked me for a dime and were more real than most ggs I've been with....and if you saw the 3 I'm talking about, you'd shit yourself-so fuckin hot, but none of them were really into the scene...maybe I'm just a lucky bastard, but it can happen, not impossible...

[amberskyi]

I don't fit into any of that at all. Also, don't play the victim. You girls use men just as much as they use you. You wouldn't want to date half of the guys who would actually want to date you. You'd rather spend his money and get rides in his sports car. It's not just TS women but all women. And when I say victim, I mean as though you are the only one being played. You are playing each other, that's why it's called a game in most situations.

And when you say willing to "give of themselves" what does that mean? more money? I have yet to find a TS woman who wants to hang out and it NOT be about money. Though it's hard to find that with many women it's damn nigh impossible with TS women. And no, I don't mean cross dressing men.

i see.nice strategy with playing the whole "all ts woman are gold diggers and whores so they set themselves up for the objectification" card.
all you have to do is go through this forum and see all the threads these guys have about how hard they struggle with theyre attraction to trannies or threads similar to this.its not hard to see its alittle bit deeper than just ts woman only care about money.

[Dkg]

That's not entirely true brother...maybe you need to get the fuck out of DC, lol...

The last 3 ts girls I've hung out with haven't asked me for a dime and were more real than most ggs I've been with....and if you saw the 3 I'm talking about, you'd shit yourself-so fuckin hot, but none of them were really into the scene...maybe I'm just a lucky bastard, but it can happen, not impossible...


I think I'm just looking in the wrong places. And there aren't exactly any ts bars/clubs/social venues around here. Like I said once before on this forum, I can't even spot them when I'm just out and about (both a good and bad thing). Maybe you are just a lucky bastard...


i see.nice strategy with playing the whole "all ts woman are gold diggers and whores so they set themselves up for the objectification" card.
all you have to do is go through this forum and see all the threads these guys have about how hard they struggle with theyre attraction to trannies or threads similar to this.its not hard to see its alittle bit deeper than just ts woman only care about money.

Of course, not all are. I'm just saying, it's not fair to play the victim card when they are no more victims than the men are. Since I joined this thread I've maybe seen a 2 or 3 such threads. Most guys here accept that they are attracted to ts women, they just aren't necessarily open about it in their personal lives. With the society we live in, it's not exactly hard to understand why that is. Like I said, most ts women I've meet (in person or on the net) seem to mostly care about the money. I'm just speaking from personal experience.

[T$420]

I think we are all just curious Ruby, since you know...you wouldn't date ANYBODY on this website and all...where did you meet your Soul Mate? I think we all would like some insight on how to pull such an amazing & beautiful girl such as yourself...

Ruby...

[RubyTS]

i see.nice strategy with playing the whole "all ts woman are gold diggers and whores so they set themselves up for the objectification" card.
all you have to do is go through this forum and see all the threads these guys have about how hard they struggle with theyre attraction to trannies or threads similar to this.its not hard to see its alittle bit deeper than just ts woman only care about money.

DING DING DING!!!

We're all suckers. We all get used for one thing or another. And usually the last thing we want to be used for. Men dont want to be used for their money, women dont want to be used for their body, but i have to say that i try my damned HARDEST to be seen as a person and not an object, and give men PLENTY of reasons to like me beyond just physical attraction. Its like u guys cant help some of the stupid shit that comes out your mouth sometimes. Like those dating shows where the guy screws up in 3...2...1....

lol i remember this one time (i told this story b4) i was with this guy who drove me somewhere and my tuck was hurting so i loosened it up a bit and the guy noticed and wouldnt stop commenting on my cock the whole ride, telling me i could take it out if i wanted to and hang it out the car window and stuff ... ughh... so inappropriate. and he just wouldnt stop!!!! Another guy i met as friends and was playing video games and he just kept looking for reasons to brush up against me, or touch me, or make little random flirty comments and when i wouldnt respond as he hoped after an hour he dropped his pants in my house to ask me what i thought of his cock like we were in some cheesy porno scene and i was gonna jump on it. i was SO disrespected i kicked his ass out after giving him a hot piece of my spanish mouth!!! And not the good kind!

the truth is it doesnt matter WHERE u meet the girls, its all about you, your confidence, and the way you make her feel about herself. women like men to treat them like friends. Let the GIRL make the first advance, she wouldnt be spending time with u if she wasnt interested, (or time your advances accordingly. Pay close attention to mannerisms and mood, its not hard people are very easy to read!) u dont have to remind her that u like her every 5 seconds, or OVER compliment her, its looses it's genuine-ness after the first 5 times u tell her how pretty she is and makes u look a little desperate! Women love confidence, and believe me, that goes a LONG WAY!!! Its right up there with WIT and humor! But there is a VERY fine line between confidence and cockiness and there nothing more of a turnoff than an egotistical guy! Try treating a girl like u would your mom, or your sister, or a close family friend. With respect! That will take u so much further than bragging about how many hot chicks you get (lol) or making inappropriate comments that only YOU find funny!

And finally, i met my boyfriend online. He wasnt my type initially and i shot him down over and over again. One day i noticed an awesome away msg and commented on aim and we just got to chatting. i didnt know it was him, but i was so enveloped in his personality, natural charm and charisma that i decided to contine talking with him as friends. He went WAYY out of his way and met me in Atlantic City BTW A CASINO IS AN AWESOME FIRST DATE!!!! Anything interractive and fun really.... I was impressed by his persistence and confidence. Our conversations flowed effortlessly, and from day i we were BEST FRIENDS. He would pick on me and i would pick on him and the playfulness was exhilirating and such a great change of pace. i kept him with me for 3 days, and after that we were inseperable. It wasn't long before we were exchanging "i love you's" The chemistry was amazing and effortless. then i started to realize how cute he really is, and wondered why i didnt see it sooner. Now i feel very fortunate to have found him. He is the best thing that has ever happened to me!

[Caff_Racer]

Most guys here accept that they are attracted to ts women, they just aren't necessarily open about it in their personal lives. With the society we live in, it's not exactly hard to understand why that is.


Fair enough, but if us blokes don't start speaking openly about the fact that we like transwomen the same way we like genetic women then that society isn't really likely to change any time soon, is it?


DING DING DING!!!

We're all suckers. We all get used for one thing or another. And usually the last thing we want to be used for. Men dont want to be used for their money, women dont want to be used for their body, but i have to say that i try my damned HARDEST to be seen as a person and not an object, and give men PLENTY of reasons to like me beyond just physical attraction. Its like u guys cant help some of the stupid shit that comes out your mouth sometimes. Like those dating shows where the guy screws up in 3...2...1....

lol i remember this one time (i told this story b4) i was with this guy who drove me somewhere and my tuck was hurting so i loosened it up a bit and the guy noticed and wouldnt stop commenting on my cock the whole ride, telling me i could take it out if i wanted to and hang it out the car window and stuff ... ughh... so inappropriate. and he just wouldnt stop!!!! Another guy i met as friends and was playing video games and he just kept looking for reasons to brush up against me, or touch me, or make little random flirty comments and when i wouldnt respond as he hoped after an hour he dropped his pants in my house to ask me what i thought of his cock like we were in some cheesy porno scene and i was gonna jump on it. i was SO disrespected i kicked his ass out after giving him a hot piece of my spanish mouth!!! And not the good kind!

the truth is it doesnt matter WHERE u meet the girls, its all about you, your confidence, and the way you make her feel about herself. women like men to treat them like friends. Let the GIRL make the first advance, she wouldnt be spending time with u if she wasnt interested, (or time your advances accordingly. Pay close attention to mannerisms and mood, its not hard people are very easy to read!) u dont have to remind her that u like her every 5 seconds, or OVER compliment her, its looses it's genuine-ness after the first 5 times u tell her how pretty she is and makes u look a little desperate! Women love confidence, and believe me, that goes a LONG WAY!!! Its right up there with WIT and humor! But there is a VERY fine line between confidence and cockiness and there nothing more of a turnoff than an egotistical guy! Try treating a girl like u would your mom, or your sister, or a close family friend. With respect! That will take u so much further than bragging about how many hot chicks you get (lol) or making inappropriate comments that only YOU find funny!

And finally, i met my boyfriend online. He wasnt my type initially and i shot him down over and over again. One day i noticed an awesome away msg and commented on aim and we just got to chatting. i didnt know it was him, but i was so enveloped in his personality, natural charm and charisma that i decided to contine talking with him as friends. He went WAYY out of his way and met me in Atlantic City BTW A CASINO IS AN AWESOME FIRST DATE!!!! Anything interractive and fun really.... I was impressed by his persistence and confidence. Our conversations flowed effortlessly, and from day i we were BEST FRIENDS. He would pick on me and i would pick on him and the playfulness was exhilirating and such a great change of pace. i kept him with me for 3 days, and after that we were inseperable. It wasn't long before we were exchanging "i love you's" The chemistry was amazing and effortless. then i started to realize how cute he really is, and wondered why i didnt see it sooner. Now i feel very fortunate to have found him. He is the best thing that has ever happened to me!



I couldn't believe the bit about the bloke dropping his kecks in front of you! I really wonder what goes through some blokes' heads! I'd never dream of behaving like that to anybody, not even if I was totally off my face...

And the bit I've highlighted in red (hope you don't mind) are words of wisdom that I think all blokes ought to read attentively every so often - indeed, some of the loudmouths on this forum should recite them as a mantra, several times a day: it might stop them from making bigger fools of themselves than they already are! (one can only hope...)

[amberskyi]

I think I'm just looking in the wrong places. And there aren't exactly any ts bars/clubs/social venues around here. Like I said once before on this forum, I can't even spot them when I'm just out and about (both a good and bad thing). Maybe you are just a lucky bastard...



Of course, not all are. I'm just saying, it's not fair to play the victim card when they are no more victims than the men are. Since I joined this thread I've maybe seen a 2 or 3 such threads. Most guys here accept that they are attracted to ts women, they just aren't necessarily open about it in their personal lives. With the society we live in, it's not exactly hard to understand why that is. Like I said, most ts women I've meet (in person or on the net) seem to mostly care about the money. I'm just speaking from personal experience.

"they just aren't necessarily open about it in their personal lives. With the society we live in, it's not exactly hard to understand why that is"

yep that just smacks of acceptance.pleaseeee.if you wanna treat me like a dirty secret,ima keep running those pockets.why should i give the time of day to men who are to ashamed and hung up to take me seriously.show me your not a trick then ill respect you as a man.come at me with a bunch of hang ups and wanting to be on the low than youll just go in the box with the dollar signs.
and im guessing you havent seen the thread where almost all the men in here were discussing their addiction to trannies and how they try to cope or kick their habit.it was crazy,you really would of thought they were talking about crack.its great to know that im something to be coped with or tried to kick.

[amberskyi]

DING DING DING!!!

We're all suckers. We all get used for one thing or another. And usually the last thing we want to be used for. Men dont want to be used for their money, women dont want to be used for their body, but i have to say that i try my damned HARDEST to be seen as a person and not an object, and give men PLENTY of reasons to like me beyond just physical attraction. Its like u guys cant help some of the stupid shit that comes out your mouth sometimes. Like those dating shows where the guy screws up in 3...2...1....

lol i remember this one time (i told this story b4) i was with this guy who drove me somewhere and my tuck was hurting so i loosened it up a bit and the guy noticed and wouldnt stop commenting on my cock the whole ride, telling me i could take it out if i wanted to and hang it out the car window and stuff ... ughh... so inappropriate. and he just wouldnt stop!!!! Another guy i met as friends and was playing video games and he just kept looking for reasons to brush up against me, or touch me, or make little random flirty comments and when i wouldnt respond as he hoped after an hour he dropped his pants in my house to ask me what i thought of his cock like we were in some cheesy porno scene and i was gonna jump on it. i was SO disrespected i kicked his ass out after giving him a hot piece of my spanish mouth!!! And not the good kind!

the truth is it doesnt matter WHERE u meet the girls, its all about you, your confidence, and the way you make her feel about herself. women like men to treat them like friends. Let the GIRL make the first advance, she wouldnt be spending time with u if she wasnt interested, (or time your advances accordingly. Pay close attention to mannerisms and mood, its not hard people are very easy to read!) u dont have to remind her that u like her every 5 seconds, or OVER compliment her, its looses it's genuine-ness after the first 5 times u tell her how pretty she is and makes u look a little desperate! Women love confidence, and believe me, that goes a LONG WAY!!! Its right up there with WIT and humor! But there is a VERY fine line between confidence and cockiness and there nothing more of a turnoff than an egotistical guy! Try treating a girl like u would your mom, or your sister, or a close family friend. With respect! That will take u so much further than bragging about how many hot chicks you get (lol) or making inappropriate comments that only YOU find funny!

And finally, i met my boyfriend online. He wasnt my type initially and i shot him down over and over again. One day i noticed an awesome away msg and commented on aim and we just got to chatting. i didnt know it was him, but i was so enveloped in his personality, natural charm and charisma that i decided to contine talking with him as friends. He went WAYY out of his way and met me in Atlantic City BTW A CASINO IS AN AWESOME FIRST DATE!!!! Anything interractive and fun really.... I was impressed by his persistence and confidence. Our conversations flowed effortlessly, and from day i we were BEST FRIENDS. He would pick on me and i would pick on him and the playfulness was exhilirating and such a great change of pace. i kept him with me for 3 days, and after that we were inseperable. It wasn't long before we were exchanging "i love you's" The chemistry was amazing and effortless. then i started to realize how cute he really is, and wondered why i didnt see it sooner. Now i feel very fortunate to have found him. He is the best thing that has ever happened to me!

bitch,when you write i shut up and listen lol.your always right on point.i think im going to have to write ya another letter.

[BigDF]

DING DING DING!!!

We're all suckers. We all get used for one thing or another. And usually the last thing we want to be used for. Men dont want to be used for their money, women dont want to be used for their body, but i have to say that i try my damned HARDEST to be seen as a person and not an object, and give men PLENTY of reasons to like me beyond just physical attraction. Its like u guys cant help some of the stupid shit that comes out your mouth sometimes. Like those dating shows where the guy screws up in 3...2...1....

lol i remember this one time (i told this story b4) i was with this guy who drove me somewhere and my tuck was hurting so i loosened it up a bit and the guy noticed and wouldnt stop commenting on my cock the whole ride, telling me i could take it out if i wanted to and hang it out the car window and stuff ... ughh... so inappropriate. and he just wouldnt stop!!!! Another guy i met as friends and was playing video games and he just kept looking for reasons to brush up against me, or touch me, or make little random flirty comments and when i wouldnt respond as he hoped after an hour he dropped his pants in my house to ask me what i thought of his cock like we were in some cheesy porno scene and i was gonna jump on it. i was SO disrespected i kicked his ass out after giving him a hot piece of my spanish mouth!!! And not the good kind!

the truth is it doesnt matter WHERE u meet the girls, its all about you, your confidence, and the way you make her feel about herself. women like men to treat them like friends. Let the GIRL make the first advance, she wouldnt be spending time with u if she wasnt interested, (or time your advances accordingly. Pay close attention to mannerisms and mood, its not hard people are very easy to read!) u dont have to remind her that u like her every 5 seconds, or OVER compliment her, its looses it's genuine-ness after the first 5 times u tell her how pretty she is and makes u look a little desperate! Women love confidence, and believe me, that goes a LONG WAY!!! Its right up there with WIT and humor! But there is a VERY fine line between confidence and cockiness and there nothing more of a turnoff than an egotistical guy! Try treating a girl like u would your mom, or your sister, or a close family friend. With respect! That will take u so much further than bragging about how many hot chicks you get (lol) or making inappropriate comments that only YOU find funny!

And finally, i met my boyfriend online. He wasnt my type initially and i shot him down over and over again. One day i noticed an awesome away msg and commented on aim and we just got to chatting. i didnt know it was him, but i was so enveloped in his personality, natural charm and charisma that i decided to contine talking with him as friends. He went WAYY out of his way and met me in Atlantic City BTW A CASINO IS AN AWESOME FIRST DATE!!!! Anything interractive and fun really.... I was impressed by his persistence and confidence. Our conversations flowed effortlessly, and from day i we were BEST FRIENDS. He would pick on me and i would pick on him and the playfulness was exhilirating and such a great change of pace. i kept him with me for 3 days, and after that we were inseperable. It wasn't long before we were exchanging "i love you's" The chemistry was amazing and effortless. then i started to realize how cute he really is, and wondered why i didnt see it sooner. Now i feel very fortunate to have found him. He is the best thing that has ever happened to me!

Way to go, Ruby. Very good primer for the guys to read and learn from. Any guy looking for any kind of serious relationship with a woman should mine all of the gems out of your post.

I loved the story about the two boys with you, mainly because I was like that myself at one time due to a combination of nerves, horniness and alcohol. I'll pretty much guarantee that the boy who couldn't keep his mouth shut in the car knew that he was going too far in his comments and was actually trying desperately to shut up. And one of the problems that guys have from watching too much porn is that they don't realize that no real woman is going to act like that unless she's getting paid.

I also liked your personal love story too because it shows how really strong relationships evolve. I met my wife at work and we used to talk a lot as friends. At first I had no romantic attraction to her, she just seemed and smelled nicer than the guys that worked with her. We enjoyed chatting about things that went on at work and around the town where we lived and after a couple of years we just moved into a romantic relationship. She told me then that she'd never planned it that way and in fact was going to try and hook me up with her friend who was constantly having man problems. But the timing of that never worked out right and she decided to keep me for herself, thank God.

I think you a very attractive woman and person, Ruby, especially for sharing you life and thoughts with us. Your inner beauty shines through your words.

Thank you,
Dave

[alyssaluxor]

im looking for a boyfriend/long term relationship!

anyone out there looking for a TS girl 100% passable and hot just contact me and lets FUKC everynight *wink wink*

[Ryz]

im looking for a boyfriend/long term relationship!

anyone out there looking for a TS girl 100% passable and hot just contact me and lets FUKC everynight *wink wink*

Where are you baby? I'm ready to get married :D

[dogsandcats]

im looking for a boyfriend/long term relationship!

anyone out there looking for a TS girl 100% passable and hot just contact me and lets FUKC everynight *wink wink*

lol you are too boy crazy right now, but you are beautiful ;)

[innocentbychoice]

im looking for a boyfriend/long term relationship!

anyone out there looking for a TS girl 100% passable and hot just contact me and lets FUKC everynight *wink wink*

So is it safe to say that your relationship with the guy who wouldn't blow you is over?

[LibertyHarkness]

i am not being funny, i really would date a TS ... i like girls and boys equally so it would be no issue to me ..

my whole family know i am bisexual and TS .. they are used to seeing boys/girls etc flitting about our home lol

I have seen some lovely girls i would love to date and get to know more personally/emotiaonlly xx

[dogsandcats]

DING DING DING!!!

We're all suckers. We all get used for one thing or another. And usually the last thing we want to be used for. Men dont want to be used for their money, women dont want to be used for their body, but i have to say that i try my damned HARDEST to be seen as a person and not an object, and give men PLENTY of reasons to like me beyond just physical attraction. Its like u guys cant help some of the stupid shit that comes out your mouth sometimes. Like those dating shows where the guy screws up in 3...2...1....

lol i remember this one time (i told this story b4) i was with this guy who drove me somewhere and my tuck was hurting so i loosened it up a bit and the guy noticed and wouldnt stop commenting on my cock the whole ride, telling me i could take it out if i wanted to and hang it out the car window and stuff ... ughh... so inappropriate. and he just wouldnt stop!!!! Another guy i met as friends and was playing video games and he just kept looking for reasons to brush up against me, or touch me, or make little random flirty comments and when i wouldnt respond as he hoped after an hour he dropped his pants in my house to ask me what i thought of his cock like we were in some cheesy porno scene and i was gonna jump on it. i was SO disrespected i kicked his ass out after giving him a hot piece of my spanish mouth!!! And not the good kind!

the truth is it doesnt matter WHERE u meet the girls, its all about you, your confidence, and the way you make her feel about herself. women like men to treat them like friends. Let the GIRL make the first advance, she wouldnt be spending time with u if she wasnt interested, (or time your advances accordingly. Pay close attention to mannerisms and mood, its not hard people are very easy to read!) u dont have to remind her that u like her every 5 seconds, or OVER compliment her, its looses it's genuine-ness after the first 5 times u tell her how pretty she is and makes u look a little desperate! Women love confidence, and believe me, that goes a LONG WAY!!! Its right up there with WIT and humor! But there is a VERY fine line between confidence and cockiness and there nothing more of a turnoff than an egotistical guy! Try treating a girl like u would your mom, or your sister, or a close family friend. With respect! That will take u so much further than bragging about how many hot chicks you get (lol) or making inappropriate comments that only YOU find funny!

And finally, i met my boyfriend online. He wasnt my type initially and i shot him down over and over again. One day i noticed an awesome away msg and commented on aim and we just got to chatting. i didnt know it was him, but i was so enveloped in his personality, natural charm and charisma that i decided to contine talking with him as friends. He went WAYY out of his way and met me in Atlantic City BTW A CASINO IS AN AWESOME FIRST DATE!!!! Anything interractive and fun really.... I was impressed by his persistence and confidence. Our conversations flowed effortlessly, and from day i we were BEST FRIENDS. He would pick on me and i would pick on him and the playfulness was exhilirating and such a great change of pace. i kept him with me for 3 days, and after that we were inseperable. It wasn't long before we were exchanging "i love you's" The chemistry was amazing and effortless. then i started to realize how cute he really is, and wondered why i didnt see it sooner. Now i feel very fortunate to have found him. He is the best thing that has ever happened to me!


How long have yall been together?

I will say one thing. Relationships are work. The infatuation and excitement will fade over time, but the love and the bond between yall will always be there if you work on your relationship together. Just make sure that you guys always communicate and show appreciation for one another. It can be easy to become complacent in a relationship. After years of being together it can be easy to get in a rut sexually and emotionally. Make sure that each of you is putting in 100% into building your relationship, figuring out ways to keep things lively between you two, and figuring out ways to always make sure the lines of communication are open.

Further, try to think longer term and how you two are going to accommodate each others goals and desires in life. It's easy to feel great in the short term when you are in love, but if yall have different goals in life then you 2 need to figure out how to try to fulfill those goals.

I'll stop rambling and I wish yall the best :party:

[RubyTS]

Way to go, Ruby. Very good primer for the guys to read and learn from. Any guy looking for any kind of serious relationship with a woman should mine all of the gems out of your post.

I loved the story about the two boys with you, mainly because I was like that myself at one time due to a combination of nerves, horniness and alcohol. I'll pretty much guarantee that the boy who couldn't keep his mouth shut in the car knew that he was going too far in his comments and was actually trying desperately to shut up. And one of the problems that guys have from watching too much porn is that they don't realize that no real woman is going to act like that unless she's getting paid.

I also liked your personal love story too because it shows how really strong relationships evolve. I met my wife at work and we used to talk a lot as friends. At first I had no romantic attraction to her, she just seemed and smelled nicer than the guys that worked with her. We enjoyed chatting about things that went on at work and around the town where we lived and after a couple of years we just moved into a romantic relationship. She told me then that she'd never planned it that way and in fact was going to try and hook me up with her friend who was constantly having man problems. But the timing of that never worked out right and she decided to keep me for herself, thank God.

I think you a very attractive woman and person, Ruby, especially for sharing you life and thoughts with us. Your inner beauty shines through your words.

Thank you,
Dave

Thank u so much =) love always comes when ur not looking for it. Those are always the best relationships. Friends first! The rest will develop on its own if the chemistry is right. Its not a good idea to chase a girl down just because you have a crush, those never end well. People need to involve themselves in relationships for the right reasons, then there will be so many more happy stories to share!


bitch,when you write i shut up and listen lol.your always right on point.i think im going to have to write ya another letter.

LOL!!!


"they just aren't necessarily open about it in their personal lives. With the society we live in, it's not exactly hard to understand why that is"

yep that just smacks of acceptance.pleaseeee.if you wanna treat me like a dirty secret,ima keep running those pockets.why should i give the time of day to men who are to ashamed and hung up to take me seriously.show me your not a trick then ill respect you as a man.come at me with a bunch of hang ups and wanting to be on the low than youll just go in the box with the dollar signs.
and im guessing you havent seen the thread where almost all the men in here were discussing their addiction to trannies and how they try to cope or kick their habit.it was crazy,you really would of thought they were talking about crack.its great to know that im something to be coped with or tried to kick.

whats funny is no matter how much we explain this it always goes in 1 ear and out the other. like i said before, confidence is key, and confidence also includes walking proud with ur woman regardless to what society thinks. i THANK THE LORD i never had this problem with my baby. He is a total man and absolutely could care less what society or his family thinks (But im happy they adore me!) This issue is usually typical of younger guys, and any guy that says he's loooking for a relationship with a TS isnt ready for one at all if theyre still concerning themselves with what other people think. its a complete contradiction to what a relationship is about!!! Again, a relationship is about being able to put somone else's needs before your own. How can u say u want a relationship but concern yourself with other peoples opinions in the same breath? Everyone has an opinion, you shouldnt let that interfere with your happiness. It shows immaturity and an extreme lack of confidence and is definitely the #1 turn off among ts women and the reason WHY a lot of girls choose to go into the adult industry. So when i say that i wish happiness to those deserving, people like this guy are NOT on the list! You will only help to further her insecurities if you involve yourself with a ts and still maintain this mindset. She has enough criticism to deal with on a daily basis, she shouldnt have to deal with it from the people who claim to lover her!!!

[audifan]

Hey Ruby,

Thanks for posting here. Hope it all goes well for you with your future plans.

[Dkg]

"they just aren't necessarily open about it in their personal lives. With the society we live in, it's not exactly hard to understand why that is"

yep that just smacks of acceptance.pleaseeee.if you wanna treat me like a dirty secret,ima keep running those pockets.why should i give the time of day to men who are to ashamed and hung up to take me seriously.show me your not a trick then ill respect you as a man.come at me with a bunch of hang ups and wanting to be on the low than youll just go in the box with the dollar signs.
and im guessing you havent seen the thread where almost all the men in here were discussing their addiction to trannies and how they try to cope or kick their habit.it was crazy,you really would of thought they were talking about crack.its great to know that im something to be coped with or tried to kick.

If I have genuine feelings for a girl, it would literally be against my nature to keep her as a dirty secret...why would I want to? If I know a girl who is a skank or ho then of course I would not want to be affiliated with her. I personally have no hang ups and the only reason I didn't take one particular relationship to that level was because I felt she was "too old" for me and had nothing to do with the fact she was trans.

Nah, I didn't see that part of the thread but if you want to give me a link I'll check it out. Not that I don't believe you. and I'm not denying that there are some guys out there that might feel "ashamed" or whatever, but most I know on here aren't including myself. I came to terms with it looong ago. Probably when I was 17 or so and I'm 27 now so yeah. Its just not an issue to me anymore. I don't go around announcing it to the world but I don't try to "kick the habit" or some stupid -ish like that.

[RubyTS]

Hey Ruby,

Thanks for posting here. Hope it all goes well for you with your future plans.

thanks

[TsVanessa69]

i honestly don't know...maybe when i'm older?
Age is not the issue.
I've had finer guys than you, younger than you, takin me to meet moms right in NYC.

[onmyknees]

thanks

Well Ruby....for a thread that started out with some "misunderstanding" , it certainly turned into one of the better ones recently. I'm glad we got that straightened out ...LOL...you're pretty funny, and pretty honest. I'd like to buy that man of yours a drink sometime ! xo

[a994]

=)

and that wasnt nice for anyone to wish negative upon my relationship or call my boyfriend any names, especially when you dont know the dynamics of our relationship, I thought ya'll already were all aware by now that i AM leaving the industry and i AM getting married


Ruby, congratulations to you and your future hubby! May everything go well for the both of you.

After having read your recent posts in this thread, I apologize for misjudging you earlier in this thread as a mere misanthrope. You have a lot of wisdom to your words, especially concerning guys being open about having a relationship with any woman, t- or otherwise.

[skateboardp0]

Its very difficult to have a relationship with a T-girl most of them are too money hungry and you can't make a ho into a housewife.

[RubyTS]

How long have yall been together?

I will say one thing. Relationships are work. The infatuation and excitement will fade over time, but the love and the bond between yall will always be there if you work on your relationship together. Just make sure that you guys always communicate and show appreciation for one another. It can be easy to become complacent in a relationship. After years of being together it can be easy to get in a rut sexually and emotionally. Make sure that each of you is putting in 100% into building your relationship, figuring out ways to keep things lively between you two, and figuring out ways to always make sure the lines of communication are open.

Further, try to think longer term and how you two are going to accommodate each others goals and desires in life. It's easy to feel great in the short term when you are in love, but if yall have different goals in life then you 2 need to figure out how to try to fulfill those goals.

I'll stop rambling and I wish yall the best :party:

i totally missed this. we've been together since june 2010. thanks for your advice. im super analytical so i wouldnt jump into anything without severly overthinking it with my computer brain lol. we've been talking long term for a while now. We are both eager to please each other, both verrrry affectionate and or sex drives r a match. just about every aspect of us goes hand in hand. I know it sounds cheesy but the more we learn the more we believe that we were actually and literally made for each other. i usually bore of people really quick, but hes maintained my interest this long and the feelings have only grown stronger. I never knew about compromise until we got together but we both have sacrificed a LOT and continue to do so. We are very raw with our emotions and are brutally honest while still trying to avoid not saying things to purposely hurt each other. We are both very defensive and very quick to lash with the tongue, but we're both realllly good at calming each other down as well as pushing each other's buttons lol. Our arguments never last long, he usually finds me cute when im angry and laughs or jokes and puts me in a better mood, either that or he'll hold me and pulverize me with kisses til i calm down. i have my ways of dealing with him too lol.

We've been speaking long term for a while now, we've already spoken to our families about us getting married but haven't set a date. Im working now to save enough to sustain myself while i go back to college, and he will be doing his thing. We're contemplating going to cosmetology school together and opening up a barber shop/salon. We've also been considerring the restaurant business. i would still like to complete my fashion degree but the business is sooo competative. id really like one day to start my own line of clothes. Not really sure what the future holds, but i have options =) idc if we both work in macdonalds as long as we're together

sorry for rambling and for anyone who finds this too mushy, you should know better than to get me started talking about my man i could go on for hourssss lol

[Dkg]

Its very difficult to have a relationship with a T-girl most of them are too money hungry and you can't make a ho into a housewife.


and you're only a 6 posts?

Oh yeah, you'll fit in here....

[RubyTS]

maybe thats all hes good for

[onmyknees]

Ruby, congratulations to you and your future hubby! May everything go well for the both of you.

After having read your recent posts in this thread, I apologize for misjudging you earlier in this thread as a mere misanthrope. You have a lot of wisdom to your words, especially concerning guys being open about having a relationship with any woman, t- or otherwise.


LMAO.....Wow...you're good Ruby. Talk about coming in like a lion and going out like a lamb !! cheers :cheers:

[dogsandcats]

i totally missed this. we've been together since june 2010. thanks for your advice. im super analytical so i wouldnt jump into anything without severly overthinking it with my computer brain lol. we've been talking long term for a while now. We are both eager to please each other, both verrrry affectionate and or sex drives r a match. just about every aspect of us goes hand in hand. I know it sounds cheesy but the more we learn the more we believe that we were actually and literally made for each other. i usually bore of people really quick, but hes maintained my interest this long and the feelings have only grown stronger. I never knew about compromise until we got together but we both have sacrificed a LOT and continue to do so. We are very raw with our emotions and are brutally honest while still trying to avoid not saying things to purposely hurt each other. We are both very defensive and very quick to lash with the tongue, but we're both realllly good at calming each other down as well as pushing each other's buttons lol. Our arguments never last long, he usually finds me cute when im angry and laughs or jokes and puts me in a better mood, either that or he'll hold me and pulverize me with kisses til i calm down. i have my ways of dealing with him too lol.

We've been speaking long term for a while now, we've already spoken to our families about us getting married but haven't set a date. Im working now to save enough to sustain myself while i go back to college, and he will be doing his thing. We're contemplating going to cosmetology school together and opening up a barber shop/salon. We've also been considerring the restaurant business. i would still like to complete my fashion degree but the business is sooo competative. id really like one day to start my own line of clothes. Not really sure what the future holds, but i have options =) idc if we both work in macdonalds as long as we're together

sorry for rambling and for anyone who finds this too mushy, you should know better than to get me started talking about my man i could go on for hourssss lol

:) Well it sounds like you 2 have a good base to start from and a much better base than me and my ex did:tongue: And man I remember going back....6 months in is like the height of things when you are like sick if you have to be away from each other. Enjoy all the moments while you can.

lol oh yeah and keep your ts friends away from him! You know as well as I do how the girls like to be messy. lol oh the memories....

This thread and message board really brings out a lot of the good memories for me and reminds me of times gone by with my ex. Oh well...that's gone....c'est la vie.

[alyssaluxor]

Where are you baby? I'm ready to get married :D

FUCK me now :fuckin:


lol you are too boy crazy right now, but you are beautiful ;)

thanks sweetie baby :jerkoff


So is it safe to say that your relationship with the guy who wouldn't blow you is over?

yes i have a new boy toy now i always FUCKED him so good :dancing:

[alyssaluxor]

current toy lol :jerkoff

YouTube - Shemale Alyssa Boyfriend lol (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pj9WpbF5Qhc)

[nevada64]

FUCK me now :fuckin:



thanks sweetie baby :jerkoff



yes i have a new boy toy now i always FUCKED him so good :dancing:

He is a lucky boy... I can only dream....

[Caff_Racer]

Its very difficult to have a relationship with a T-girl most of them are too money hungry and you can't make a ho into a housewife.

I know it's been done to death and then some, but:

"It's better to keep your mouth shut and let people think that you're a fool, than to open it and confirm that you are indeed a fool".

[nevada64]

I know it's been done to death and then some, but:

"It's better to keep your mouth shut and let people think that you're a fool, than to open it and confirm that you are indeed a fool".

Well said old boy...

[RubyTS]

:) Well it sounds like you 2 have a good base to start from and a much better base than me and my ex did:tongue: And man I remember going back....6 months in is like the height of things when you are like sick if you have to be away from each other. Enjoy all the moments while you can.

lol oh yeah and keep your ts friends away from him! You know as well as I do how the girls like to be messy. lol oh the memories....

This thread and message board really brings out a lot of the good memories for me and reminds me of times gone by with my ex. Oh well...that's gone....c'est la vie.

i meant 2009, we're about to make year and a half on the 17th! 5 days!!! and lol at onmyknees, there goes that duality i was talking about =P

[dderek123]

Ruby I like your posts! It's nice to hear your relationship is going so well.

[RubyTS]

thank u bayyyybeeehhhhh

[dderek123]

lol @ bayyyybeeehhhh

[skateboardp0]

Im just sayin....

[dderek123]

Say wah?

[tsparisangelline]

Lol this thread is funny