* Snow, Snow, Snow! *

[*Kiely_Marie*]

It's snowing! Ugh! Why! Why Why! ... I'm over it! :cry:

[Hugh Jarrod]

It's snowing! Ugh! Why! Why Why! ... I'm over it! :cry:

It's winter sweetie, besides I miss the snow during Christmas.

[*Kiely_Marie*]

It's not Christmas yet tho! LoL! ... I dont really hate snow much, I just hate when it gets all slushy and ugly ...

By the time its Christmas the snow will be mushy and slushy and ugly ... Not pretty and white!

[Hugh Jarrod]

Well true in big cities that is.

[dreamer]

I love the snow --my car doesn't -----we have a dust building here near Waterbury CT

[Dkg]

I love the snow --my car doesn't -----we have a dust building here near Waterbury CT


yea, same here. Try owning a convertible though.

Convertible top + Snow = Not good.

[Hugh Jarrod]

Convertible+snow=just plain sucks. Sorry 'bout that one guy.

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

driving in snow in New York City SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[kalina]

I love the snow --my car doesn't -----we have a dust building here near Waterbury CT


yea, same here. Try owning a convertible though.

Convertible top + Snow = Not good.

Actually, it'd be fine if the car wasn't rear-wheel drive and weigh under 3000 pounds :D

[Hugh Jarrod]

Ehh I'll never own a front drive car. If it's a convertible gimme a 63' Continental with suicide rear doors.

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

my car is rear wheel drive WITH traction control, which I believe helped me out alot

what bugs me is the people on the road that DON'T appreciate mother nature.............. I don't care what you have snow is the more dominant element, once you begin to slide it doesn't matter how much power you throw to the wheels you're still gonna slide.........

I saw an Escalade stop traffic on the 59th street bridge after leaving the party this morning, the shit slid wrong and went into the rail, completely stopping traffic

[Skillet]

I personally really love the snow. Wouldn't really feel like Christmas without it.

[kalina]

my car is rear wheel drive WITH traction control, which I believe helped me out alot

what bugs me is the people on the road that DON'T appreciate mother nature.............. I don't care what you have snow is the more dominant element, once you begin to slide it doesn't matter how much power you throw to the wheels you're still gonna slide.........

I saw an Escalade stop traffic on the 59th street bridge after leaving the party this morning, the shit slid wrong and went into the rail, completely stopping traffic

:D Let me guess... Bimmer? I have a little black Z3... rear wheel drive with traction control. I drove to work one day in the snow on the highway and up and down hills (anybody know Radnor, PA? You'll know what I'm talking about), it was freezing cold and the snow started icing up... well, going home I had to go up a ramp to get to the highway... couldn't go up the ramp until a plow came and then I edged over to the plowed surface. Ick.

[hwbs]

agreed i have TCS and my car is front wheel drive and once u hit the skids , its game over!!!

[Quinn]

Worst car in the world for driving in the snow: Porsche 944. In my mid twenties, I bought one and had it restored to mint condition when I was living in PA. I was very happy with it until the first storm. Seriously, if I lost momentum, I could get stuck in little more than an inch of snow. It was ridiculous.

-Quinn

[rick_932]

the high down here was 78 degrees :roll: :wink:

[BeardedOne]

I drove to work one day in the snow on the highway and up and down hills (anybody know Radnor, PA?

The roads of Radnor are to TV Guide what the Sawmill Parkway is to Reader's Digest. Too freakin' scary in the winter. :shock:

Worst car for snow driving: Any of the itty-bitty Chevys and Fords.

Best car for snow driving: 1969 Cadillac Superior Hi-Boy ambulance. :D I actually tried to put it into a slide once and it dug right down to the pavement and kept on rolling.

On ice, however, it was vewy, vewy quiet and went wherever it wanted to go until it bumped into something.

Damn, I miss that car.

Driving a Saturn VUE now and like it a lot. Great for moving, bad for stopping, though. Once you get up the momentum, just about anything slides, no matter how many wheels are turning.

[kalina]

Worst car in the world for driving in the snow: Porsche 944. In my mid twenties, I bought one and had it restored to mint condition when I was living in PA. I was very happy with it until the first storm. Seriously, if I lost momentum, I could get stuck in little more than an inch of snow. It was ridiculous.

-Quinn

The strange thing about NJ/PA is the high number of BMWs, Benzes, and Porsches driving around. It's like... take an average biz bum from Philly and transport him or her to another major city and he or she will probably not be driving anything so nice. And it's weird that there'd be so many rear wheel drive vehicles when the weather can change so much from season to season. Someone joked that most of the owners of the cars above own a Volvo as a backup! I believe it. Of course, being a city girl, I could only afford to have one car in my one space.

[kalina]

The roads of Radnor are to TV Guide what the Sawmill Parkway is to Reader's Digest. Too freakin' scary in the winter. :shock:

Worst car for snow driving: Any of the itty-bitty Chevys and Fords.

Best car for snow driving: 1969 Cadillac Superior Hi-Boy ambulance. :D I actually tried to put it into a slide once and it dug right down to the pavement and kept on rolling.

On ice, however, it was vewy, vewy quiet and went wherever it wanted to go until it bumped into something.

Damn, I miss that car.

Driving a Saturn VUE now and like it a lot. Great for moving, bad for stopping, though. Once you get up the momentum, just about anything slides, no matter how many wheels are turning.

In my early driving days (and after my accident where my Z3 turned into a Z2 :) ), I drove a replacement car... a Ford Escort. The roads around King of Prussia were real wet and the exit was real curvy so I stomped on the brake too hard and spun out. That's when I learned real fast that front wheel drive can be no better than rear wheel. So many idiot consumers just think "front wheel drive, front wheel drive" not thinking that there are other factors that can affect traction and stability.

[Kramer]

The strange thing about NJ/PA is the high number of BMWs, Benzes, and Porsches driving around.


Drug dealers make alot of money!! Thats nothing to them!

[Quinn]

Worst car in the world for driving in the snow: Porsche 944. In my mid twenties, I bought one and had it restored to mint condition when I was living in PA. I was very happy with it until the first storm. Seriously, if I lost momentum, I could get stuck in little more than an inch of snow. It was ridiculous.

-Quinn

The strange thing about NJ/PA is the high number of BMWs, Benzes, and Porsches driving around. It's like... take an average biz bum from Philly and transport him or her to another major city and he or she will probably not be driving anything so nice. And it's weird that there'd be so many rear wheel drive vehicles when the weather can change so much from season to season. Someone joked that most of the owners of the cars above own a Volvo as a backup! I believe it. Of course, being a city girl, I could only afford to have one car in my one space.

My backup car was a Honda Civic, which was actually fairly good in the snow. It's funny you mention Volvo as a backup because that was the last car that I owned (S70) before the one I now use. That and BMWs are my favorite cars.

-Quinn

[Ecstatic]

What gets me are the idjits driving hulking SUVs weighing over 5000 pounds who don't know any physics and think they can fly along in the snow at 60 mph and hit the brakes and stop on a dime. I drive a VW Passat wagon, front wheel drive with traction control and fairly aggressive snow tires. It will take up up snowpacked hills and through anything I'd care to be out in. But those Honda Civics are amazing little cars; I owned an '81 fwd for many years, including a winter in the Copper Country of Michigan (average of 250 inches of snow), and it survived the winter with simply Michelin radials.

[Dkg]

just got it and so far it's great in the spring and summer. just wondering how well it'll hold up this winter.

[BeardedOne]

What gets me are the idjits driving hulking SUVs weighing over 5000 pounds who don't know any physics and think they can fly along in the snow at 60 mph and hit the brakes and stop on a dime.

Having driven heavy commercial chassis cars for many years, in the Bawsten wintahs, and having driven more miles than I care to count, I naturally got the overconfidence attained from not bumping into anything in the snow.

But, oh, the ride I took on the NJ Turnpike during the big blizzard of '90 (Or wazzit '91?). Big-ass Lincoln Town Car with big-ass exec in the back seat and I'm cruising up the road doing the usual 60-ish, not paying attention to the fact that we are the only car on the road in mid afternoon on a weekday, because everyone else has more sense than us. It didn't take a tap on the breaks, either. I hit a clot of snow that had fallen off someone's fender and it was just enough to spin the Town Car twice before it got caught up in a drift, facing back up the road into the headlights of an oncoming car (Who, thankfully, was a little more in tune with what he was driving on). Finished the drive doing about...oh...30 MPH for the rest of the day.

That's scary shit, when all you can do is watch the world revolve around you. There's a hill behind Boston College, where the boulevard winds down towards Newton, where I hit a pacth of ice with a Plymouth Volare taxicab. Saw both sides of the street about four times before the downhill momentum gave up. :shock:

[Ecstatic]

I know that hill by BC. Mass has quite a few, and the driving here is often worse than it is up north even though Maine, NH and Vermont get more snow: being coastal and southern (by comparison), we get more rain/snow mix, both rain turning to snow and snow turning to rain, which create icey conditions making for bad driving. And the idiots on the road! That's the real danger. I've done my share of 360's (and 720's), though. The hardest part in the past decade has been getting used to NOT pumping my brakes, something I've been well practised at for 30 years prior to ABS.

[BeardedOne]

I know that hill by BC. Mass has quite a few, and the driving here is often worse than it is up north even though Maine, NH and Vermont get more snow: being coastal and southern (by comparison), we get more rain/snow mix, both rain turning to snow and snow turning to rain, which create icey conditions making for bad driving. And the idiots on the road! That's the real danger. I've done my share of 360's (and 720's), though. The hardest part in the past decade has been getting used to NOT pumping my brakes, something I've been well practised at for 30 years prior to ABS.

Imagine a little red taxicrab going 'round and 'round and 'round, right down to the Centre. Worst part was that the fare I was driving out to get had called three other companies and I slid past their door when I got there and lost to one of the other cabs by the time I got back up the hill. Bastich! :x

ABS sux! :x They were invented for people that don't know how to drive and they don't make them drive any better. :soapbox

[Ecstatic]

Whew, sounds like fun! I drove cab in Boston ... for one night. That was enough! (Drove cab in Framingham for a few months, but that was a dead end.)

I think it depends upon the vehicle; the ABS on my VW works awesomely; for all my experience (about 38 years or so) of winter driving (that's Maine, NH, Mass, Vermont, Michigan, Colorado), I can't break as well as the VW system does. But I've driven other cars that don't work as well. Good tires, though, are far more important. Most of the year I drive Michelin Pilots which are outstanding on dry and wet roads--in the rain, you'd swear the road was dry--but they suck raw eggs in the snow. Downright dangerous. So on go my Cooper snows, and I'm good to go.

Most outrageous winter driving experience: probably in the Colorado Rockies. We were on Spring break from Ft Collins, down in New Mexico. 75 degree weather, beautiful day. We stopped at the Black Canyon of the Gunnison and had an amazing time. Hit the road to cross over Monarch Pass between Gunnison and Salida (11,312 ft, irrc the third highest pass in CO). They closed the road behind us as the snow started to fall. My friend (a veteran of driving semis across the Rockies) drove up over the pass--in that '82 Civic with radial tires (we found out coming down out of the pass that the road had been closed). The storm dropped 28" of snow in a few hours. I took the wheel outside Salida and drove out to the Interstate at Colorado Springs and north to Fort Collins--at least six hours when the only other vehicles on the road were snowplows. Between the two of us, we made it safely (our third friend was useless). Although I'm proud of the six hours' drive I put in through 2 1/2 feet of snow, my friend's performance driving over the pass remains possibly the most impressive winter driving I've ever witnessed.

[hwbs]

im just over driving in the snow...my next vehicle, lol

[BeardedOne]

Whew, sounds like fun! I drove cab in Boston ... for one night. That was enough! (Drove cab in Framingham for a few months, but that was a dead end.)

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Most outrageous winter driving experience: probably in the Colorado Rockies.

I bet it was the same cab I drove in Boston (ITOA - One day and ended up owing them money for the lease). My cab 'career' was in one of the 'burbs, where the Teamsters had fought to make leasing an option (If I knew then what I know now, I would have shifted to leasing once I got the hang of the work).

Framingham. Scary place. I spent last summer haunting the library, historical society, and cemeteries for familial past.

I know about the Rockies, especially after my 21 cities in 21 states in 21 days tour of this past summer. Fortunately the weather was kind to me throughout the trip (Though temps at the top were below freezing on a couple of the nites). I wondered about those big gates at the highway ramps until someone told me about the winters. A bit sobering to think that they'd close them =after= you left town.

Damn. It's starting to snow here now. I should probably try and get the stray onto the porch before the little furball gets buried under the stuff.

[Ecstatic]

Yeah, they're not supposed to close them after you've passed, but somehow we slipped by. Deeply stoned, too, lol.

Framingham: I moved there when I was in Jr High from Maine and couldn't wait till I graduated HS and could leave. Spent the intervening years in Arizona, Colorado, Michigan, Maine, and Western Mass, but in 1984 found myself back in Framingham (long story short, my folks were still there and I was recovering from a near-fatal car accident). Bought a condo, lived there for 12 years, then finally got out again...all the way to Marlborough.

Now my sights are set on either New Mexico...or Thailand!

[Kramer]

Arianna, you still feel the need to call me names? But you expect none back in return? You seem very immature for your age. Im not stupid enough to post my pic on any site, unlike you. You leave yourself open for critizism. I think I called you every name in the book the last time you called me racist, so im not gonna even bother this time. However I do suggest you change your avatar to a sitcom character, because that broken up face is FUGLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 8) Come for me!!! Cmon, badboy!!!

[Kramer]

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


You are so lonely arent you?? :lol: You can accuse me of anything you want, but you are showing the rest of the people here that you are a moron! :lol: This is funny, what makes you think I cant afford to buy a nice car anyway? :lol: I'll tell you what, I dont have to suck dick to make my money!! Hows that, you poor excuse for a shemale!?!?! My kids college funds are already paid for, they can go where they wish. Unlike you and your 8th grade education!! :lol:

See I can make accusations too. This is boring though. Let me know when you wanna stop. 8)

[Kramer]

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: thats funny, the finger and The K man's face!


People need to stop being so damn sensitive. Who cares what is posted, from a rebel flag to a swastika, who the hell cares. That was a long time ago.

That quote is true. People have to lighten up and remember sticks and stones....................................!


Maybe you do drive a nice car, how would I know. Who cares!

But dont tell me you dont suck dick for $$.

I'll play your little game.....................your turn. :lol:

[4DegreesWarmer]

Well...

To get back on topic, I was totally against snow(I've hated it since I've been out of school and into the "real" world).

Now it looks like I won't be working tomorrow, so thank god for the 1day vacation.

[BeardedOne]

We just had a bit of a dusting here last night. The stray came by and looked like he'd been rolling in it. Black cat, much snow, very contrasty. :)