What % of TS girls are working girls?

[T$420]

My question is, do I have to actually ask a girl if she is in fact "working" before I leave with her? How many girls out there actually are working girls? I'm still fairly new to this scene, so any response is appreciated! Thanks!

[FreddieGomez]

99.9%

[T$420]

99.9%

Are you serious?? That sucks man, I love beautiful tsgirls, but I'm not willing to break them off like that. I guess I've gotten lucky so far, but I'm not some creepy old dude that stalks them either, so maybe that's why I haven't had to pay, but fuck, that sucks!

[FreddieGomez]

Are you serious?? That sucks man, I love beautiful tsgirls, but I'm not willing to break them off like that. I guess I've gotten lucky so far, but I'm not some creepy old dude that stalks them either, so maybe that's why I haven't had to pay, but fuck, that sucks!

yeah it's unfortunate for us dudes who dont pay

[jennylicious]

Before or after complete transition?

[nonnonnon]

are you going to pay her back? :P
I think it's more common than g-girls because transition is expensive but a girl should tell you before you drive across town

[T$420]

Before or after complete transition?

Well, I'm not into CDs, I only like girls who either have implants and actually look like women....so I guess after??

Why, does it matter?

[jennylicious]

Well, I'm not into CDs, I only like girls who either have implants and actually look like women....so I guess after??

Why, does it matter?

Well gender re-assignment is a bit more than just having implants. Facial feminisation surgery, hormonones, councilling. It all takes time and money.

You are more likely to meet a TS before full SRS doing what they can for money, than you are afterwards...

[T$420]

Well gender re-assignment is a bit more than just having implants. Facial feminisation surgery, hormonones, councilling. It all takes time and money.

You are more likely to meet a TS before full SRS doing what they can for money, than you are afterwards...

Guess so, but this girl was completely after transition, had all of that, maybe not the counciling though, lol!

Maybe she needs to pay back the loan to pay for all the work she had done, but again, I'm not the cat that is going to "sponsor" a girl...

[jennylicious]

Guess so, but this girl was completely after transition, had all of that, maybe not the counciling though, lol!

Maybe she needs to pay back the loan to pay for all the work she had done, but again, I'm not the cat that is going to "sponsor" a girl...

Well I'm guessing from your description she hadn't had SRS, and may be on her way to it.

It's ok not to want to sponsor, just appreciate that there are some girls out there that feel they need the money to be the person they are and they aren't going to be too proud to ask.

I had 4 operations on my face alone, and they were certainly an expensive way of putting myself through a lot of pain.

[T$420]

Well I'm guessing from your description she hadn't had SRS, and may be on her way to it.

It's ok not to want to sponsor, just appreciate that there are some girls out there that feel they need the money to be the person they are and they aren't going to be too proud to ask.

I had 4 operations on my face alone, and they were certainly an expensive way of putting myself through a lot of pain.

Sorry, I'm still new to this, what is SRS?

[jennylicious]

Sorry, I'm still new to this, what is SRS?

Sexual Reassignment Surgery. A complete woman.

Sorry, you were talking about her stroking herself, and I took it that she had something to 'stroke'. Maybe I got that wrong.

[Silcc69]

Sorry, I'm still new to this, what is SRS?

SEXUAL REASSIGNMENT SURGERY. (i think)

[LibertyHarkness]

next time a girl offers you a good time just like that, just ask are you charging for this or is you want fun ...

personally in a club i will chjat with anyone but i dont have sex with anyone as i dont do casual 1nights ...i get asked all thje time how much you charge, you want a fuck for fun etc ..

simply just ask them outright before getting involved ..

[T$420]

Sexual Reassignment Surgery. A complete woman.

Sorry, you were talking about her stroking herself, and I took it that she had something to 'stroke'. Maybe I got that wrong.

Ahh, got ya. Yeah, she was still functional...

[TsVanessa69]

Well I'm guessing from your description she hadn't had SRS, and may be on her way to it.

It's ok not to want to sponsor, just appreciate that there are some girls out there that feel they need the money to be the person they are and they aren't going to be too proud to ask.

I had 4 operations on my face alone, and they were certainly an expensive way of putting myself through a lot of pain.
not all of us need an srs to be comple

[T$420]

next time a girl offers you a good time just like that, just ask are you charging for this or is you want fun ...

personally in a club i will chjat with anyone but i dont have sex with anyone as i dont do casual 1nights ...i get asked all thje time how much you charge, you want a fuck for fun etc ..

simply just ask them outright before getting involved ..

Yeah, should have done that, but like I said, I met a few girls from this club b4 as well as on Craigs list and aff, never was asked to pay, so it caught me off guard.

Plus, I didn't want to offend a girl and ask her if she was "working" but after this experience, I guess I just have to ask anyway...

[TsVanessa69]

Before or after complete transition?
Complete transition is not the same for all.
I hate when girls try and tell you you are not complete because you don't want to remove and enjoy having your penis.
I am a transexual not a female. But MY transition is complete. And my 7.5 is still fully functional and I am no less of a woman than one with a vagina.

[TsVanessa69]

Yeah, should have done that, but like I said, I met a few girls from this club b4 as well as on Craigs list and aff, never was asked to pay, so it caught me off guard.

Plus, I didn't want to offend a girl and ask her if she was "working" but after this experience, I guess I just have to ask anyway...
I myself go to clubs to dance and mingle and meet hott guys like any other chick. Escorting to me is a job. I make my money at work.
I play on my free time, and to me going to a club is my free time

[jennylicious]

not all of us need an srs to be comple

Very true Vanessa. My sincerest apologies, I didn't mean for it to be offensive. I have been just trying to make the point that girls on the way to SRS are more strapped for cash than those who have got there.

[T$420]

I myself go to clubs to dance and mingle and meet hott guys like any other chick. Escorting to me is a job. I make my money at work.
I play on my free time, and to me going to a club is my free time

See, this is Exactly what I'm talking about...if I was some creepy dude that can only get a girl by paying for it, I'd search for their ad, call them up and expect to pay since they are "working" but in a club environment, I'm just looking to grab a drink, mingle and if I meet somebody, I don't expect them to be on the clock...

[TsVanessa69]

Very true Vanessa. My sincerest apologies, I didn't mean for it to be offensive. I have been just trying to make the point that girls on the way to SRS are more strapped for cash than those who have got there.
Even girls not on the way get strapped for cash.
Some of us don't need to get "there". We are there, dick and all.
Thus transexual, BEST of BOTH worlds.
Then on top of that some post ops are more fucked than females.
Guys want females or trannys.

[TsVanessa69]

See, this is Exactly what I'm talking about...if I was some creepy dude that can only get a girl by paying for it, I'd search for their ad, call them up and expect to pay since they are "working" but in a club environment, I'm just looking to grab a drink, mingle and if I meet somebody, I don't expect them to be on the clock...
I agree. But to be real, when I was very young, I knew females whose sole porpouse of going to the clubs were to juice guys for money and coke. Its not just a tranny thing. Then some guys think because you do WORK as an escort, you are always on the clock.

[T$420]

I agree. But to be real, when I was very young, I knew females whose sole porpouse of going to the clubs were to juice guys for money and coke. Its not just a tranny thing. Then some guys think because you do WORK as an escort, you are always on the clock.

No, you're right, a lot of girls are looking for that sugar daddy, its not just a tranny thing. So let me ask you, if I see a girl who does work, how do I know if she is in fact on the clock or not without coming off as a complete dick?

[jennylicious]

Even girls not on the way get strapped for cash.
Some of us don't need to get "there". We are there, dick and all.
Thus transexual, BEST of BOTH worlds.
Then on top of that some post ops are more fucked than females.
Guys want females or trannys.

I'm not disputing anything you say. I was simply pointing out to the gentleman that there has been a long history of transexuals turning to prostitution as a means to pay for their treatment.

[ohioguy13]

Maybe your older and creepier then you think? its not like a notice comes in the mail and tells you

[Jackal]

I think the guy knows how old he is

[DarylWashington]

99.9%

:iagree:

[spankrod]

"She works harrrd for the money ... works harrrd for the money ..."

[TSMichelleAustin]

I know ur tooting your own horn hun but there are a lot of fine ass guys who will pay to be with a tranny! Girls work all the time, it just depends if they want u for free or not. A lot of girls know what to say to the dudes they like for free and the ones they make pay. Id take advice from other girls and just ask. I have had guys ask if this a charge or not? No harm in that.

[T$420]

I know ur tooting your own horn hun but there are a lot of fine ass guys who will pay to be with a tranny! Girls work all the time, it just depends if they want u for free or not. A lot of girls know what to say to the dudes they like for free and the ones they make pay. Id take advice from other girls and just ask. I have had guys ask if this a charge or not? No harm in that.

I hear ya...listen, I'm not trying to dog anybody who pays to be with a tranny, its just not what I'm willing to do....maybe I've just gotten lucky up to this point and had some freebies, but the ones I have been with-and I've only been with a few tsgirls, don't seem to be working girls-according to them.

[T$420]

Maybe your older and creepier then you think? its not like a notice comes in the mail and tells you

yeah, maybe you're right....I haven't received any notices in my mailbox yet to tell me I'm older and creepier than I think...is that what they do in Ohio?

[amberskyi]

yeah, maybe you're right....i haven't received any notices in my mailbox yet to tell me i'm older and creepier than i think...is that what they do in ohio?

lmfao...

[T$420]

I know ur tooting your own horn hun but there are a lot of fine ass guys who will pay to be with a tranny! Girls work all the time, it just depends if they want u for free or not. A lot of girls know what to say to the dudes they like for free and the ones they make pay. Id take advice from other girls and just ask. I have had guys ask if this a charge or not? No harm in that.

So Michelle, are you saying you give freebies or you always charge? Do any working girls actually have relationships with guys?

Maybe those fine ass guys who pay to be with a tranny just have no game....I'm just saying....

[fred41]

So Michelle, are you saying you give freebies or you always charge? Do any working girls actually have relationships with guys?

Maybe those fine ass guys who pay to be with a tranny just have no game....I'm just saying....

Some people pay because they might be unattractive or socially awkward
and this might be a way for them to be with someone that they wouldn't normally match up with but also...:

People pay cause they're married
People pay cause they're well known
People pay because they don't have time to "date".
People pay cause the money doesn't mean anything to them

the list goes on.

[BellaBellucci]

What percentage of girls work?

Why 420% of course. Yeeeeah, baby! :dancing:

http://www.420magazine.com/gallery/data/759/420-Girls-Dot-Com.jpg

~BB~

[BellaBellucci]

Oh, and I work and have relationships. There's something to be said for the difference between a 'working girl' and 'a girl who works.'

~BB~

[T$420]

What percentage of girls work?

Why 420% of course. Yeeeeah, baby! :dancing:

http://www.420magazine.com/gallery/data/759/420-Girls-Dot-Com.jpg

~BB~

Hell yeah, love it!!!

[T$420]

Some people pay because they might be unattractive or socially awkward
and this might be a way for them to be with someone that they wouldn't normally match up with but also...:

People pay cause they're married
People pay cause they're well known
People pay because they don't have time to "date".
People pay cause the money doesn't mean anything to them

the list goes on.

Fred, you are absolutely right....I agree with you, what do they always say about paying for it? You pay them to leave! Especially if you are married or well known...

[Helvis2012]

What percentage of girls work?

Why 420% of course. Yeeeeah, baby! :dancing:

http://www.420magazine.com/gallery/data/759/420-Girls-Dot-Com.jpg

~BB~


Nice.......

[T$420]

I didn't even mention this, but I saw a pretty popular ts lady out there last night too, not going to mention any names, but she is a tall blond that I've seen pics of on the net & i'm sure she has pics somewhere on here too...

She kept trying to flirt and make eye contact, calling me handsome & trying to get my attention. I just smiled politely and moved on...why? Because I think she does work & even though she probably wasn't on the clock last night, I'm not interested in even having the conversation of "donations" in the first place...then look what happened, LOL!

[sdman]

The precentage of TS working girls is very high almost all of them are prostitutes.

[TSLexiWade]

The precentage of TS working girls is very high almost all of them are prostitutes.





I have no shame in admitting I am an escort... BUT, I ALSO have a FULL TIME job too! XO.

[TSMichelleAustin]

So Michelle, are you saying you give freebies or you always charge? Do any working girls actually have relationships with guys?

Maybe those fine ass guys who pay to be with a tranny just have no game....I'm just saying....


I have a very healthy open relationship that I have had for 3 years now. I am a working girl, I have had a fulltime job. I produce two podcast, 3 websites, manage my career and have been very good at what I do.

WHy girls charge guys: ONE: most of u want a fantasy fuck. You would never date us, go out in daylight with us... so why do u get the fun fantasy fuck in the end? I dont care how hot u are or how smooth of a brother you are. So the theory for most girls is this, u wanna a fantasy, then fill my pockets. Two way street... u get urs, she gets hers.

TWO: Same as the other guy said ur married, u have a gf, etc. Once again ur getting a fuck behind ur significant others back u gotta pay.

And of course a lot of the other reasons. There are a few girls who dont work, live normal lives, but I bet u 9 times out of ten u wont find them at those kind of hang outs. They live stealth lives.... And if I am out and you talk to me, in first five mins I know ur motives, so I will tell you either it cost or it dont. Usually when I am out, I dont want to be bothered, I just want fun time with my friends.

And of course I have fuck buddies that I enjoy my time with! So they get the free stuff! But again they understand my situation and dont ask questions and accept the deal!

[cheez]

I understand that girls need to get paid, but nobody and I mean nobody likes to get hustled with their dick in their hand.
If you're at the point of being half naked, then that's not the time to negotiate. The minute the girl decided you were gonna pay she should have said something.
She has every right to ask you to pay and she has every right to expect to be paid, but don't act like you're getting along.
The escort/non escort girls are often very clear about the situation in NYC which I like- those who wanna fuck say it and those who are looking for compensation won't kiss or play nice with you until your wallet comes out.
My only issue is that 99% of the girls at any party (allanah, sandy, sunny) are working and that's that. The only way to do better is to get to know these girls and actually hang out with them and go to non-tranny clubs when they're just going out with their girlfriends as opposed to trying to pull the one nighters.
I know- way too much work, but that's how you meet the non-working girls...

[BellaBellucci]

I understand that girls need to get paid, but nobody and I mean nobody likes to get hustled with their dick in their hand.
If you're at the point of being half naked, then that's not the time to negotiate. The minute the girl decided you were gonna pay she should have said something.
She has every right to ask you to pay and she has every right to expect to be paid, but don't act like you're getting along.
The escort/non escort girls are often very clear about the situation in NYC which I like- those who wanna fuck say it and those who are looking for compensation won't kiss or play nice with you until your wallet comes out.
My only issue is that 99% of the girls at any party (allanah, sandy, sunny) are working and that's that. The only way to do better is to get to know these girls and actually hang out with them and go to non-tranny clubs when they're just going out with their girlfriends as opposed to trying to pull the one nighters.
I know- way too much work, but that's how you meet the non-working girls...

Co-sign. :Bowdown:

~BB~

[Felicia Katt]

for the wrong guy, the percentage can be 100 per cent and for the right one, it can be zero. Every girl has a Mr Right. Every girl has has a lot more Mr Wrongs. You will know right away if you are the latter category, but may never know if you are "in the right" unless you are ready to play the odds.

FK
PS asking a girl if she is working is the right way to establish if she is, but is the very worst way to find out if she isn't.

[MrF]

In my experience, in the bar scenes where you find pretty and passable TGirls, the percentages are extremely high, probably at least 90%. It's odd.

From the little I've managed to learn, there are a lot of TGirls who live "conservative" and private lives and you won't see them in the clubs. Or in some cases they live most of of their daily lives in "boy mode" because they are not very passable -- only dressing as a woman when in private comfortable settings. Now somebody's going to object that this is a CD not a TGirl; but I don't know if the line between these is well defined.

I suppose you'll need to think up some non-offensive dialog to establish if there is a price. I have no good ideas for how to do that, though.

[T$420]

I have been seeing a ts girl for a few months, but we just hang out at her pad, we don't go out to clubs. It makes sense that most of these girls at the clubs are working, but I would think they are just going out to have a good time and dance with their friends. Maybe that is what caught me off guard, because they are out with their friends, I wouldn't think they were on the clock.

However, Michelle makes some good points because it is mostly a fantasy for the majority of us. The girl I have been seeing isn't a working girl, guess I just got lucky but I like hanging out with her, just being cool, drinking & smoking some good herb, listening to music & enjoying our time together. I do provide the bomb Cali kush herb and alcohol, so maybe that is my payment, lol. Seriously though, we both have an understanding and don't push it past what it is.

[T$420]

Thats the thing too, if you are going to invite me back to your pad after leaving the bar, why not let it be known that you expect $ for me to be there? If she would have said thats what she was expecting, I would have politely declined her invitation or never called her...so I do feel I was a bit misled...

[scroller]

Thats the thing too, if you are going to invite me back to your pad after leaving the bar, why not let it be known that you expect $ for me to be there? If she would have said thats what she was expecting, I would have politely declined her invitation or never called her...so I do feel I was a bit misled...

Agreed, along with Cheez and Bella.

Your hookup was enormously shitty for not communicating in advance (but then there's at least one other live thread here about an escort turning a guy away at the door expecting him to ESP certain requirements). You might've made a small misstep in letting it go on while she's saying "you owe me" (you don't want her at the club badmouthing you, "That guy walked out on paying". I know, easier said than done, eh?)

So, who knows how biased the folks are on this forum? Maybe trusting your own experience is best. Sounds like you're, what, 1-for-5 with your hookups playing out like this? So working hypothesis is 20% of your hookups are messed up chaotics who can't straighten out their own sex/ libido/ payment issues, and will sabotage these encounters. If that's an okay bet for you, then keep doing what you're doing.

[T$420]

Agreed, along with Cheez and Bella.

Your hookup was enormously shitty for not communicating in advance (but then there's at least one other live thread here about an escort turning a guy away at the door expecting him to ESP certain requirements). You might've made a small misstep in letting it go on while she's saying "you owe me" (you don't want her at the club badmouthing you, "That guy walked out on paying". I know, easier said than done, eh?)

So, who knows how biased the folks are on this forum? Maybe trusting your own experience is best. Sounds like you're, what, 1-for-5 with your hookups playing out like this? So working hypothesis is 20% of your hookups are messed up chaotics who can't straighten out their own sex/ libido/ payment issues, and will sabotage these encounters. If that's an okay bet for you, then keep doing what you're doing.

You are absolutely right...I didn't even think about it at the time, guess my little head took over the brain during the moment...hopefully it doesn't come back to bite me later on.

I'm not sure what is worse, her badmouthing me by saying I didn't pay or her saying that she got me to pay! lol Either way, I will probably have to address it at some point if I go back there. But like you said, the odds aren't that bad if 80% of the time I don't get the sales pitch from a working girl...

[Mz.Brownsugah]

I’m not a escort, but have the utmost respect and admiration for what they do. They provide non working girls and guys that just want to get laid with a much needed service. Most bang-able girls who do not escort do not want to be bothered with guys who just want to toot and boot. And most guys, don’t want to be bothered with actually getting to know a girl. Getting laid it’s a game. An escort is just a former non working girl who got wise to the game and then changed it so that she also wins and there’s no point in hating her for playing the game her way. It doesn’t make you any less of a man because you have to pay to play. Consider the alternative; you can fuck the cross-dressing trolls that post on craigslist personals and have the audacity to call themselves TS’s or even worse, you could be force to take out a non-working girl out on a real date and risk liking her for more than her body. The latter doesn’t even guarantee that you would get laid.

[TSLexiWade]

I’m not a escort, but have the utmost respect and admiration for what they do. They provide non working girls and guys that just want to get laid with a much needed service. Most bang-able girls who do not escort do not want to be bothered with guys who just want to toot and boot. And most guys, don’t want to be bothered with actually getting to know a girl. Getting laid it’s a game. An escort is just a former non working girl who got wise to the game and then changed it so that she also wins and there’s no point in hating her for playing the game her way. It doesn’t make you any less of a man because you have to pay to play. Consider the alternative; you can fuck the cross-dressing trolls that post on craigslist personals and have the audacity to call themselves TS’s or even worse, you could be force to take out a non-working girl out on a real date and risk liking her for more than her body. The latter doesn’t even guarantee that you would get laid.



Agreed & VERY WELL STATED! :iagree:

[AngelinaTorres]

When i go to a club i want to have fun with my friends, there is escort websites for that i don't think a club is appropriate for prostitution, i never asked money to anyone in clubs but if they really want to pay me for my services i just gave them my card tell them that i'm not working tonight and ask them to call me another day. Of course if the guy have a body like T$420 i take him home instantly for free lol
I only been to NY in America, girls in clubs use to do lapdance for guys i was shocked because i never saw that in Europe and i will never offer a lapdance to someone in a club! Clubs it's for party, fun, flirt with hot guys!
Some girls go crazy about money. Life is not all about the money, it's important to share something with ppl without thinking of money constantly.
I'm open for free sex anytime lol i worked has an escort only when i'm in the mood.

http://angelina-prive.com/
http://www.angelinatorresxxx.com

[TSMichelleAustin]

I’m not a escort, but have the utmost respect and admiration for what they do. They provide non working girls and guys that just want to get laid with a much needed service. Most bang-able girls who do not escort do not want to be bothered with guys who just want to toot and boot. And most guys, don’t want to be bothered with actually getting to know a girl. Getting laid it’s a game. An escort is just a former non working girl who got wise to the game and then changed it so that she also wins and there’s no point in hating her for playing the game her way. It doesn’t make you any less of a man because you have to pay to play. Consider the alternative; you can fuck the cross-dressing trolls that post on craigslist personals and have the audacity to call themselves TS’s or even worse, you could be force to take out a non-working girl out on a real date and risk liking her for more than her body. The latter doesn’t even guarantee that you would get laid.


YES MA'AM I agree a 100%

I was not always a working girl and I hated going out and all the guys ever wanted was to fuck me. Why u get ur nut off for free? But I agree with the OP it was a shitty move the girl did on him. I would never do that, but I never take home guys from the club... I am not 20 anymore, so no need to bring a guy home for a one nite ordeal. When I am out I am having fun, dont want to be bothered, u ask me to go home I give u an outrageous price... if ur willing to pay now, Ill go home! LOL! Most of time they leave me alone. I like to be left alone... U can loook me up on net if u wanna get off later on! LOL!

[T$420]

When i go to a club i want to have fun with my friends, there is escort websites for that i don't think a club is appropriate for prostitution, i never asked money to anyone in clubs but if they really want to pay me for my services i just gave them my card tell them that i'm not working tonight and ask them to call me another day. Of course if the guy have a body like T$420 i take him home instantly for free lol
I only been to NY in America, girls in clubs use to do lapdance for guys i was shocked because i never saw that in Europe and i will never offer a lapdance to someone in a club! Clubs it's for party, fun, flirt with hot guys!
Some girls go crazy about money. Life is not all about the money, it's important to share something with ppl without thinking of money constantly.
I'm open for free sex anytime lol i worked has an escort only when i'm in the mood.

http://angelina-prive.com/
http://www.angelinatorresxxx.com

See, that is my mindset, if I want an escort, I can go to the websites and arrange it from there. But then it is upfront and there is no bs, both parties no what is up. However, if I am out at a club, I think it should be just to have a good time. Now, I don't expect to go home with a girl that I meet that same night, but if it happens, then so be it-we are both adults.

Oh, I forgot to mention this-lol....so after we finish & Im still naked b4 getting dressed, she opens up her bedroom door and tells her friend to come check me out, saying to her, "look how hot this guy is" and this cd looking chick comes to the door and starts staring at me and smiling...I'm thinking wtf!? I didn't even know anybody else was in her apartment! So that was a little odd, but whatever...shit maybe I should have been the one who asked for a donation!!

[nonnonnon]

Oh, I forgot to mention this-lol....so after we finish & Im still naked b4 getting dressed, she opens up her bedroom door and tells her friend to come check me out, saying to her, "look how hot this guy is" and this cd looking chick comes to the door and starts staring at me and smiling...I'm thinking wtf!? I didn't even know anybody else was in her apartment! So that was a little odd, but whatever...shit maybe I should have been the one who asked for a donation!!

:dead-1:

[phobun]

Most aren't

[phobun]

This is how most chasers talk around their friends:

I went up to this girl, she said, Hi, my name is Sheena
I thought she'd be good to go with a little Funky Cold Medina
She said, I'd like a drink, I said, Ehm - ok, I'll go get it
Then a couple sips she cold licked her lips, and I knew that she was with it
So I took her to my crib, and everything went well as planned
But when she got undressed, it was a big old mess, Sheena was a man
So I threw him out, I don't fool around with no Oscar Meyer wiener
You must be sure that the girl is pure for the Funky Cold Medina

You know, ain't no plans with a man
This is the 80's, and I'm down with the ladies
Ya know?

[Aurora]

Not all are working girls. It depends on a lot of things: how accepting the girl's family is, how much money she has, if she is able to get a good job (outside of escorting), whether she wants to escort or not, and so on. I was never a working girl, neither was my girlfriend, and most of my other TS friends.

[T$420]

I know that not all are working girls...I've been dating a girl who is a nurse & has never worked, we get along great, probably because she does have her shit together...I wish there were more girls like her around...hell, maybe there are, I just haven't found out where they hang out at yet...

[phobun]

Not all are working girls. It depends on a lot of things: how accepting the girl's family is, how much money she has, if she is able to get a good job (outside of escorting), whether she wants to escort or not, and so on. I was never a working girl, neither was my girlfriend, and most of my other TS friends.


Are you a transbian?

[phobun]

I know that not all are working girls...I've been dating a girl who is a nurse & has never worked,


There are a lot of transsexual women from the Philippines who work as nurses here.

[T$420]

There are a lot of transsexual women from the Philippines who work as nurses here.

You know whats up...

[fred41]

I know that not all are working girls...I've been dating a girl who is a nurse & has never worked, we get along great, probably because she does have her shit together...I wish there were more girls like her around...hell, maybe there are, I just haven't found out where they hang out at yet...

So what's your situation? Are you two just mutual hook-ups ..or BF/GF ?

..do you two go out on dates (dinner/shows/movies)?...or she doesn't want that?

[TSMichelleAustin]

I know that not all are working girls...I've been dating a girl who is a nurse & has never worked, we get along great, probably because she does have her shit together...I wish there were more girls like her around...hell, maybe there are, I just haven't found out where they hang out at yet...

I think ur statement here is rude. I worked 7yrs in a salon. I have my life and shit together. A real job dont pay shit like escorting can. SO I would like to say not all of us are drug addicts, a mess or whatever ur meaning of Get their shit together means.

So everyone has their visions on what an escort is... I treat it as a business, I dont just bend over for sex, I use my cosmetology background in services I provide too. But I dont just do that, its a small part of my life. I produce sites, promote girls, entertain at clubs, do porn, etc. And I pay my taxes like a good American! LOL! So I would say I have my shit together. I just chose to not break my back in a 9-5 job that didnt pay me shit!

[BigDF]

Complete transition is not the same for all.
I hate when girls try and tell you you are not complete because you don't want to remove and enjoy having your penis.
I am a transexual not a female. But MY transition is complete. And my 7.5 is still fully functional and I am no less of a woman than one with a vagina.You go, girl!:Bowdown:

[Kunzy]

99.9%

spot on:)

[Beaner]

My experience is that even the girls who say they dont escort will suck your dick or give you some ass if you throw the right amount of cash at them so id say most all escort fulltime or partime.

[T$420]

I think ur statement here is rude. I worked 7yrs in a salon. I have my life and shit together. A real job dont pay shit like escorting can. SO I would like to say not all of us are drug addicts, a mess or whatever ur meaning of Get their shit together means.

So everyone has their visions on what an escort is... I treat it as a business, I dont just bend over for sex, I use my cosmetology background in services I provide too. But I dont just do that, its a small part of my life. I produce sites, promote girls, entertain at clubs, do porn, etc. And I pay my taxes like a good American! LOL! So I would say I have my shit together. I just chose to not break my back in a 9-5 job that didnt pay me shit!

Wasn't trying to be rude here at all...not saying that if you escort you don't have your shit together, that's not what I meant. I was just saying that she does have her shit on point and I like that...

Maybe you just like fast money, Michelle? I dated a girl who made bank doing hair, you don't have to escort to do well for yourself. Don't get me wrong, I like fast $ too but this is America & there are a million different ways to make money...you don't have to rent out your body in order to do so-again, I'm not knocking anybody out there who does, I'm just saying you don't have to.

I also didn't say that anybody was a drug addict or a mess, you took that wrong...

[innocentbychoice]

Wasn't trying to be rude here at all...not saying that if you escort you don't have your shit together, that's not what I meant. I was just saying that she does have her shit on point and I like that...

Maybe you just like fast money, Michelle? I dated a girl who made bank doing hair, you don't have to escort to do well for yourself. Don't get me wrong, I like fast $ too but this is America & there are a million different ways to make money...you don't have to rent out your body in order to do so-again, I'm not knocking anybody out there who does, I'm just saying you don't have to.

I also didn't say that anybody was a drug addict or a mess, you took that wrong...

I agree.

Now I don't think any of the girls has really answered what is the proper way to ask if a girl in a club is working. I think in most cases it would be rude to be all like "so are you going to charge me?" ya know... A genetic girl would slap the shit out of you.

[T$420]

I agree.

Now I don't think any of the girls has really answered what is the proper way to ask if a girl in a club is working. I think in most cases it would be rude to be all like "so are you going to charge me?" ya know... A genetic girl would slap the shit out of you.

NO SHIT! That's what I was trying to figure out, how do you ask that without coming off as a complete douchebag?

[TSMichelleAustin]

Wasn't trying to be rude here at all...not saying that if you escort you don't have your shit together, that's not what I meant. I was just saying that she does have her shit on point and I like that...

Maybe you just like fast money, Michelle? I dated a girl who made bank doing hair, you don't have to escort to do well for yourself. Don't get me wrong, I like fast $ too but this is America & there are a million different ways to make money...you don't have to rent out your body in order to do so-again, I'm not knocking anybody out there who does, I'm just saying you don't have to.

I also didn't say that anybody was a drug addict or a mess, you took that wrong...

Saying we dont have shit together.... u talk about fast cash? Its not fast cash for me. I dont see everyone who calls. So i dont do it for fast money. I was 28 with back problems and arthritus from doing hair. SO why I left. I made good money but it wasnt worth my health.

I have a great career and I control my destiny... im 30 yrs old and do what I wnat and very happy! I got my shit together. Not like ur nurse, but I know im wise and well educated and happy with what I have done with my life.

U just made it sound that people who dont have careers are less than others with careers. So I know u didnt say that, but it came off like u did.

[T$420]

Saying we dont have shit together.... u talk about fast cash? Its not fast cash for me. I dont see everyone who calls. So i dont do it for fast money. I was 28 with back problems and arthritus from doing hair. SO why I left. I made good money but it wasnt worth my health.

I have a great career and I control my destiny... im 30 yrs old and do what I wnat and very happy! I got my shit together. Not like ur nurse, but I know im wise and well educated and happy with what I have done with my life.

U just made it sound that people who dont have careers are less than others with careers. So I know u didnt say that, but it came off like u did.

My bad! No, got nothing but mad luv for all the girls out there...as long as they don't charge me, lol! jk...

Oh and btw Michelle, I know you aint paying taxes on that $ you do make from escorting, LOL!

[TSMichelleAustin]

My bad! No, got nothing but mad luv for all the girls out there...as long as they don't charge me, lol! jk...

Oh and btw Michelle, I know you aint paying taxes on that $ you do make from escorting, LOL!

Yes i do... all my money goes into bank account. It affords me a lot more that way. So I pay taxes babe. I have a business name and all i use to front it all. Yes I do pay my taxes... so to like apt places, car dealers, etc shows I have an income.

[T$420]

Yes i do... all my money goes into bank account. It affords me a lot more that way. So I pay taxes babe. I have a business name and all i use to front it all. Yes I do pay my taxes... so to like apt places, car dealers, etc shows I have an income.

But your business is illegal! I know you're not "claiming" all of your tips, just like waiters and bartenders don't...

I'd watch out from those fuckers at the irs, they are always looking to get theirs....

[TSMichelleAustin]

And when u pay taxes for a business like I do... escorting it is not called but I still use that money as my income. I can write off things! So I feel its a better end result!

[TSMichelleAustin]

But your business is illegal! I know you're not "claiming" all of your tips, just like waiters and bartenders don't...

I'd watch out from those fuckers at the irs, they are always looking to get theirs....

YEa and when u put money in bank they wanna knwo where it comes from... so yes I pay my bills and I pay my taxes on what I get. Dude I am not stupid so dont start shit with me. The IRS thinks I do services for people, like makeup, hair etc. So they dont need to know im fucking a guy for that money. As long as they get theirs I get mine.

[T$420]

And when u pay taxes for a business like I do... escorting it is not called but I still use that money as my income. I can write off things! So I feel its a better end result!

Well clearly, Michelle, you have your shit on point, so you go up a few notches in my book ;)

Just figure out a way to write off all that lingerie...actually, I'm quite certain you already have...

[TSMichelleAustin]

Well clearly, Michelle, you have your shit on point, so you go up a few notches in my book ;)

Just figure out a way to write off all that lingerie...actually, I'm quite certain you already have...

No I dont write off lingerie cuz I dont buy it! LOL! But because my business is on appearance I do write off makeup, part of my bills, apt, etc. Clothes, and whatever else because I work out of my house. I am smarter than the average hooker! LOL! So I think it pays to pay your taxes on what u make!

[BigDF]

NO SHIT! That's what I was trying to figure out, how do you ask that without coming off as a complete douchebag?Look, man, you can't! At least not until you know the girl a little better. The girl asked for a donation, right? At least that's what you said. A donation is a gift, ok? No different than bringing over vodka or weed, really. You declined and you got laid anyway, so it sounds more to me like she was attracted to you. You go out there and start asking girls if they're working or not, you're going to be going home alone a lot, at the least.

I think what happened to you is simply just an awkward situation between two people who were attracted to each other. You can do one of two things here, depending on how you feel about her: call it an experience and just move on; call her and find out for sure what's going on with her.

Personally, I think if she was really a working girl you'd have been bounced as soon as you said no. It really sounds to me like a misunderstanding. As far as donating goes, I've donated money to a couple of girls myself and no sex was involved save for my own sweaty little fantasies.:jerkoff

BTW, if you're still tempted to ask that loaded question of some girl, remember that regardless of how you phrase it, the girl is going to hear:ARE YOU A WHORE? Just saying...

[yodajazz]

So last night Im out at a club and after it closes, a pretty sexy ts girl who was fllirting with me earlier, spots me and asks me to come over to her car to talk. She tells me she is going home and I should call her in 10 minutes. So after I call her, she invites me to come over, so I head out to her pad.

After arriving at her apartment, she invites me in, then leads me back to her room. She then starts undressing me, as well as herself, rubbing me and yanking on my cock. All I'm thinking is "yeah, its on, I'm about to fuck the shit out of this girl!"

Then she says, "do you have a donation for me?" I'm thinking motherfucker, I'm not the type of cat that ever has to pay for sex & I tell her that straight out. She then asks me how much $ I have on me and I tell her I don't have anything on me. At this point, I figure, fuck this, I will just bounce. But she is still yanking on my dick and telling me to get naked. She then tells me to "take care" of her next time & starts to suck my cock. So I figure, why not? Throw on a magnum and fucked the shit out of her, just like I originally planned.

She is stroking herself and cums all over her stomach while I'm breaking her off and then she can't take anymore and tells me to jerk off all over her...which I obliged. Then I get dressed and she walks me to the door, and reminds me to remember her "donation" next time.

Now, I've pulled some girls from this club b4 and met up, never was asked to "pay" only to maybe bring over some vodka or some weed, which I love anyway...

My question is, do I have to actually ask a girl if she is in fact "working" before I leave with her? How many girls out there actually are working girls? I'm still fairly new to this scene, so any response is appreciated! Thanks!

I know that, you thought you were getting a freebee. And truth is, you dont have to pay her later, but you will pay later in 99.9% of relationships. This includes gg's. So you might as well throw her some cash when you see her again. The reality is once you understand that you have to give, and do it willingly, they will also give back to you, in other ways. When you are very young it is more likely that you will run into some no-strings sex, but that's for some other reason, like she's been hearing about sex stuff from her girls, and feels like she is bein left out, etc. But continue down the line, and you will have to pay. Like, if you don't get her a Christmas or birthday gift, she'll feel you dont respect her, and kick you to the curb.

One last thing, unless a woman asks you for a house, with a 15-30 mortgage, everything else is small change. But keep in mind little things go a long way, like bringing her a corned beef sandwich, (not the cheapest thing on the menu), lets her know that you are thinking of her, and care about her needs outside of sex. Thanks for sharing your experience.

[nonnonnon]

YouTube - Women Are Hoes (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x49m2SdeGo0)

[FreddieGomez]

i think a woman who has a decent job that she worked thru college to get is the sexiest thing...an independent woman who makes money legally is sexy.... not ones who hustle thru escorting.....

[onmyknees]

i think a woman who has a decent job that she worked thru college to get is the sexiest thing...an independent woman who makes money legally is sexy.... not ones who hustle thru escorting.....

Freddie..and you wonder why you get in the shit with Vanessa and some other ladies on here? I could care less what a woman does to pay her bills. I'm going to enjoy reading you get pulverized...you deserve it.

[DarylWashington]

i think a woman who has a decent job that she worked thru college to get is the sexiest thing...an independent woman who makes money legally is sexy.... not ones who hustle thru escorting.....

They're usually unattractive!

[T$420]

[QUOTE=BigDF;853260]

Personally, I think if she was really a working girl you'd have been bounced as soon as you said no. It really sounds to me like a misunderstanding. As far as donating goes, I've donated money to a couple of girls myself and no sex was involved save for my own sweaty little fantasies.:jerkoff

She is definitely a working girl, I barely searched and I found her ad on backpage...lol.

[fred41]

i think a woman who has a decent job that she worked thru college to get is the sexiest thing...an independent woman who makes money legally is sexy.... not ones who hustle thru escorting.....


They're usually unattractive!


...and they expect you to at least have equal credentials...lol

[audifan]

Freddie, you could possibly have expressed that better.

Most people can admire a girl who does a great job for low wages, like for example a nurse. That's admirable, and is likely to be attractive to guys; but maybe she's sexy, maybe not - it's unrelated.

An escort by definition has to be sexy to her chosen market, or she's out of business. And not every girl has the motivation or mental toughness to escort. Those that do, deserve the money they make. They could care less if we admire their career choice, but we have no reason to judge them. My2c.

[BigDF]

[QUOTE=BigDF;853260]

Personally, I think if she was really a working girl you'd have been bounced as soon as you said no. It really sounds to me like a misunderstanding. As far as donating goes, I've donated money to a couple of girls myself and no sex was involved save for my own sweaty little fantasies.:jerkoff

She is definitely a working girl, I barely searched and I found her ad on backpage...lol.OK, so now you know. She must have been a horny working girl since she went through with it even after you refused to pay her. Life is good, right?:)

[Ryz]

You should of asked her for a donation to suck your cock.

[IMISSHER]

Saying we dont have shit together.... u talk about fast cash? Its not fast cash for me. I dont see everyone who calls. So i dont do it for fast money. I was 28 with back problems and arthritus from doing hair. SO why I left. I made good money but it wasnt worth my health.

I have a great career and I control my destiny... im 30 yrs old and do what I wnat and very happy! I got my shit together. Not like ur nurse, but I know im wise and well educated and happy with what I have done with my life.

U just made it sound that people who dont have careers are less than others with careers. So I know u didnt say that, but it came off like u did.

can u please just answer this, how u do u figure sucking dick and fucking guys is a great career? the money is great im sure. but do u honestly think this is what u want to do for a living. i will never understand this line of thought. as a good friend of mine who is in the buss. says at the end of the day im a whore, nothing else. and no one gets up in the morning and says this is a good day to be a whore. she is rich, but one of the saddest people i have ever met. just curious thats all.

[dlbi22]

can u please just answer this, how u do u figure sucking dick and fucking guys is a great career? the money is great im sure. but do u honestly think this is what u want to do for a living. i will never understand this line of thought. as a good friend of mine who is in the buss. says at the end of the day im a whore, nothing else. and no one gets up in the morning and says this is a good day to be a whore. she is rich, but one of the saddest people i have ever met. just curious thats all.

drunk rant?

[audifan]

can u please just answer this, how u do u figure sucking dick and fucking guys is a great career? the money is great im sure. but do u honestly think this is what u want to do for a living. i will never understand this line of thought. as a good friend of mine who is in the buss. says at the end of the day im a whore, nothing else. and no one gets up in the morning and says this is a good day to be a whore. she is rich, but one of the saddest people i have ever met. just curious thats all.

Well if she's rich then she can do whatever she wants, including training to do something else if that's her wish. Doesn't sound like she has a reason to be sad.

[T$420]

you should of asked her for a donation to suck your cock.

no shit!

[T$420]

[quote=T$420;853381]OK, so now you know. She must have been a horny working girl since she went through with it even after you refused to pay her. Life is good, right?:)

BigDF, you have no idea how good life is right now! I just got in from being out last night @ blue moon....Im sure there are a ton of haters out there of me right now...

[TSMichelleAustin]

can u please just answer this, how u do u figure sucking dick and fucking guys is a great career? the money is great im sure. but do u honestly think this is what u want to do for a living. i will never understand this line of thought. as a good friend of mine who is in the buss. says at the end of the day im a whore, nothing else. and no one gets up in the morning and says this is a good day to be a whore. she is rich, but one of the saddest people i have ever met. just curious thats all.

Yea dude and if u read its not all I do... and its a good career if u like what ur doing! I love sex. I have been having it since i was 12, I love it! So I do something I love and I give every guy a great experience. I have a great relationship and this all allows me the freedom of being able to do my artistic stuff that doesn't make me money! I am not sad at all dude, I have a very loving family, love my life, and enjoy every day of it! So fuck off with the bs u just posted! Some people do it cuz they have to! I dont have to do this, I choose to. There is a difference!

[phobun]

Most people can admire a girl who does a great job for low wages, like for example a nurse.


Actually nurses get paid quite a lot these days. Better than some pharmacists and doctors.

[fred41]

Actually nurses get paid quite a lot these days. Better than some pharmacists and doctors.

..and their services are needed everywhere...it's one of those careers where you can find a job almost anywhere in this country.

[BellaBellucci]

Umm, yeah. I'd rather be an escort than a nurse. A nurse actually does more disgusting things for less money.

... I mean if transsexuals only have two career choices that is. :roll:

Seriously though. Why do so many of you guys knock on escorts? It's not like we have anywhere close to the same number of options as cisgenders and we have a lot more time and income requirements. If we all had regular jobs, we'd be a lot more dependent on men. Moreover, the most successful girls have great diversification of income (besides escorting), which is something many cisgenders don't have the luxury of having, but want in this economy, so maybe it's jealousy. :wiggle:

Or maybe guys just like girls who are helpless and dependent so that they can have all the control but bitch about the responsibility. Maybe it's just proof that misogyny is alive and well?

~BB~

[bte]

Most transwomen that I have met have not been "working girls." So I have no idea.

[BellaBellucci]

Most transwomen that I have met have not been "working girls." So I have no idea.

... and that's a whole other conversation. Most of the girls who don't escort have some kind of support system outside of the trans world. When you have nobody and have been treated like an outcast your entire life for being different, you're not exactly starting your life from the most beneficial place. I'm happy for the girls who have had the love and support of family and long time friends and parlayed that into a 'normal' life, but for many of us, it's just not in the cards and I think there are a lot worse things that a girl can do to level the playing field than escorting, provided they're safe and professional about it.

Again: let's not knock the girls who have fewer career options due to circumstances beyond their control. Remember: there's a huge difference between 'an escort' and 'a girl who escorts.'

~BB~

[audifan]

...Seriously though. Why do so many of you guys knock on escorts? It's not like we have anywhere close to the same number of options as cisgenders and we have a lot more time and income requirements. If we all had regular jobs only we'd be a lot more dependent on men. Moreover, the most successful girls have great diversification of income (besides escorting), which is something many cisgenders don't have the luxury of having, but want in this economy, so maybe it's jealousy. :wiggle:


So, cisgenders have more options, but don't have the luxury of diversification of income. Sorry, lost me there :confused:




Or maybe guys just like girls who are helpless and dependent so that they can have all the control but bitch about the responsibility. Maybe it's just proof that misogyny is alive and well?

~BB~

Sounds good to me ;) But it's hardly misogyny. And girls play the same game from the other side so usually guys just have the illusion of control. We've got them right where they want us.

[BellaBellucci]

So, cisgenders have more options, but don't have the luxury of diversification of income. Sorry, lost me there :confused:

They have more career options. Because of that, most have been told: 'go to school and get a good job.' While it's applauded to have them, most people do not have entrepreneurial skills or even desires because of that. And of course, they simply don't have the distractions that we do. For instance, when I was growing up I was told I would make an excellent lawyer. As much as I love the law and excel at debate, and as much as lawyers are always in demand, it just wasn't my fate because even in a good job, I would have to be a person that I'm not, so instead, I chose to learn as much as I could about everything I could because I felt it was the best way to become a well-rounded person, so despite all of my misfortune, I have been successful many times and will be so again, and I teach my son accordingly. Like I said, in this new economy, it's actually the way to go IMHO.


Sounds good to me ;) But it's hardly misogyny. And girls play the same game from the other side so usually guys just have the illusion of control. We've got them right where they want us.

We're talking about transsexuals here, not GG's. I think transsexuals, while having the same vulnerabilities as GG's, even moreso, are more pragmatic and independent than most GG's. So many GG's are still taught from birth that they should grow up, marry a prince, and have lots of babies. That's not so for us and so I don't think we're as helpless as born women, nor are we as well trained in the nuances of manipulating men over as long a period of time (say, an entire marriage) as GG's, especially since we can't have children.

~BB~

[T$420]

I think you're being shortsided on this...your options aren't more limited because of who you are, that is just bullshit....you don't live in the freakin middle east, you live in the greatest country in the world, one that affords you the opportunity to be who you are & the freedom to create whatever you want out of life...

You're right, we are told from an early age to go to school, get a good education, so we can get a nice, safe, secure job....but this is America! You were too focused on not being a lawyer due to who you are, that is a copout....how many ts are lawyers out there? None? Why not be the first? Why not create a service that helps tsgirls in any legal issues they may face? Don't you think you would rather deal or be represented by somebody out there who understands you? My point is, there are a ton of ways to make $, you just need to think outside of the box for once....clearly you have done that in your personal life in transition, why couldn't you think of an angle to make $ out there that would benefit not only you, but the community you represent?

[phobun]

... and that's a whole other conversation. Most of the girls who don't escort have some kind of support system outside of the trans world. When you have nobody and have been treated like an outcast your entire life for being different, you're not exactly starting your life from the most beneficial place. I'm happy for the girls who have had the love and support of family and long time friends and parlayed that into a 'normal' life, but for many of us, it's just not in the cards and I think there are a lot worse things that a girl can do to level the playing field than escorting, provided they're safe and professional about it.

Again: let's not knock the girls who have fewer career options due to circumstances beyond their control. Remember: there's a huge difference between 'an escort' and 'a girl who escorts.'

~BB~


The transsexuals I've known personally were rejected by their families yet don't escort.

[Ryz]

Yea dude and if u read its not all I do... and its a good career if u like what ur doing! I love sex. I have been having it since i was 12, I love it! So I do something I love and I give every guy a great experience. I have a great relationship and this all allows me the freedom of being able to do my artistic stuff that doesn't make me money! I am not sad at all dude, I have a very loving family, love my life, and enjoy every day of it! So fuck off with the bs u just posted! Some people do it cuz they have to! I dont have to do this, I choose to. There is a difference!

So is it an open relationship? Do you care if he fucks other girls.

[FreddieGomez]

Freddie, you could possibly have expressed that better.

Most people can admire a girl who does a great job for low wages, like for example a nurse. That's admirable, and is likely to be attractive to guys; but maybe she's sexy, maybe not - it's unrelated.

An escort by definition has to be sexy to her chosen market, or she's out of business. And not every girl has the motivation or mental toughness to escort. Those that do, deserve the money they make. They could care less if we admire their career choice, but we have no reason to judge them. My2c.

not all chicks who get college degrees arent sexy....ya'll make it seem like trannies are the only feminine beings, there are still GG's who will always puts the sexiest trannie to shame.....and dude, a gorilla could become an escort, it's not like it's that hard to become one. have u seen some of these trannies who escort?....thirsty dudes will always keep escorts of all categories in business

[joeym75ld]

Michelle and T$420
The IRS could give a shit where and how you get your money. As long as they get their share!

[audifan]

not all chicks who get college degrees arent sexy....

True. But like I said, unrelated.



ya'll make it seem like trannies are the only feminine beings

My post didn't mention TS. Applies to GG's and TS.



there are still GG's who will always puts the sexiest trannie to shame...

Maybe. Maybe just different opinions. I think they're about even. Some beautiful TS out there, GG's too. Likewise some ugly people, both GG and TS.



..and dude, a gorilla could become an escort, it's not like it's that hard to become one. have u seen some of these trannies who escort?....thirsty dudes will always keep escorts of all categories in business

You're just repeating back what I already said. An escort has to be sexy to some people in order to earn. Someone doing a different job needn't be sexy to anyone. The job doesn't stop her being sexy. Doesn't make her sexy either.

I've no issue with you or what you find sexy. That's your free choice. My argument was about escorts needing to be sexy at least to their tricks; and non-escorts not needing to be, but might be anyway.

[BellaBellucci]

I think you're being shortsided on this...your options aren't more limited because of who you are, that is just bullshit....you don't live in the freakin middle east, you live in the greatest country in the world, one that affords you the opportunity to be who you are & the freedom to create whatever you want out of life...

I'm not talking about now. I'm talking about childhood and early transition. Maybe I'm just speaking from my own anecdotal evidence here, but in my case my parents were so controlling and abusive that the middle east would have been heaven. I had -ZERO- opportunity growing up that I didn't create for myself. Also, in the case of many TS's, obviously gender variant people are pretty openly discriminated against. I may not be a member of that class of people any more, but most TS, including myself, were early in their transitions.


My point is, there are a ton of ways to make $, you just need to think outside of the box for once....clearly you have done that in your personal life in transition, why couldn't you think of an angle to make $ out there that would benefit not only you, but the community you represent?

... because I haven't had enough time. Well, that and the economy is no help at all. Stay tuned. I always play the long game and I have years and years worth of plans. :)


The transsexuals I've known personally were rejected by their families yet don't escort.

I'm sure, but don't you think that was fortunate for them? Because it's certainly not the norm. They must have had some kind of support system! You don't go from neglected and rejected to successful without resources.

~BB~

[audifan]

They have more career options. Because of that, most have been told: 'go to school and get a good job.' While it's applauded to have them, most people do not have entrepreneurial skills or even desires because of that. And of course, they simply don't have the distractions that we do. For instance, when I was growing up I was told I would make an excellent lawyer. As much as I love the law and excel at debate, and as much as lawyers are always in demand, it just wasn't my fate because even in a good job, I would have to be a person that I'm not, so instead, I chose to learn as much as I could about everything I could because I felt it was the best way to become a well-rounded person, so despite all of my misfortune, I have been successful many times and will be so again, and I teach my son accordingly. Like I said, in this new economy, it's actually the way to go IMHO.



We're talking about transsexuals here, not GG's. I think transsexuals, while having the same vulnerabilities as GG's, even moreso, are more pragmatic and independent than most GG's. So many GG's are still taught from birth that they should grow up, marry a prince, and have lots of babies. That's not so for us and so I don't think we're as helpless as born women, nor are we as well trained in the nuances of manipulating men over as long a period of time (say, an entire marriage) as GG's, especially since we can't have children.

~BB~

I don't agree with everything you say about careers, but props for making a good argument out of it. Like T$420 said, you could be a good lawyer if you wanted.

And thanks for the insights about TS women. :)

[audifan]

... You don't go from neglected and rejected to successful without resources.

~BB~

I don't know the people Phobun was talking about, so I can't talk about that. But some for some people neglect and rejection is a catalyst to use their own resources to become successful. That success could come through escorting, or another path. I agree that TS people are actively discriminated against and have obstacles put in their way. For many I guess that's very discouraging, and having access to some external resources would be a big help. For a few, it could just spur them on without help from anyone.

[BellaBellucci]

I don't know the people Phobun was talking about, so I can't talk about that. But some for some people neglect and rejection is a catalyst to use their own resources to become successful. That success could come through escorting, or another path. I agree that TS people are actively discriminated against and have obstacles put in their way. For many I guess that's very discouraging, and having access to some external resources would be a big help. For a few, it could just spur them on without help from anyone.

That may be true, but not for everyone. I was in foster care in my late teen years and had to drop out of high school to get away from my foster parents who were just outright controlling. It was all good at first, but then I met some people (who called themselves 'friends') who took advantage of me pretty badly as well. When I figured them out and tried to get away from them, they concocted a scheme to set me up for a crime and then loot my house during the 2 days I was in jail. It's funny actually: people have been conspiring against me my entire life and they wonder why I'm 'paranoid.' But really, that's just their way of saying, 'relax, this won't hurt a bit.' :lol:

So then it was all downhill from there. I was homeless off and on and involved with the GG escort industry to survive. Then I hooked up with one of the girls, had my son, got married, and almost immediately realized what I was doing was wrong. I needed to transition after all of my attempts at self-denial, so I did. I don't know where I would have found the stability necessary for 7-8 years of school at any point in my life and at this stage and with my current responsibilities, I think it still may be years off before I find the time to be able do that kind of work.

~BB~

[audifan]

Bella, good for you for getting to where you have from a bad start. And if it takes you years to get where you want, that's OK too. It's now 2011 here so Happy New Year!

[T$420]

I'm not trying to be a dick here, but everybody has had issues in their lives in which we must overcome to first survive & then thrive...you can't focus on the past....

While driving down this crazy road called life, you have to have a very small rear view mirror and an enormous windshield, in order to get to where you want to go....

[BellaBellucci]

Bella, good for you for getting to where you have from a bad start. And if it takes you years to get where you want, that's OK too. It's now 2011 here so Happy New Year!


I'm not trying to be a dick here, but everybody has had issues in their lives in which we must overcome to first survive & then thrive...you can't focus on the past....

While driving down this crazy road called life, you have to have a very small rear view mirror and an enormous windshield, in order to get to where you want to go....

Thanks both of you. And I'm not complaining about any of it. I'm just pointing out that for some of us, the deck is more heavily stacked against us. Far too much of life really just has to do with luck.

... look at Seanchai for instance. *rimshot* :dancing:

HAPPY 2011! GOODNIGHT EVERYONE! YOU'VE BEEN A LOVELY AUDIENCE! :lol:

~BB~

[audifan]

I'm not trying to be a dick here, but everybody has had issues in their lives in which we must overcome to first survive & then thrive...you can't focus on the past....

While driving down this crazy road called life, you have to have a very small rear view mirror and an enormous windshield, in order to get to where you want to go....

That's true too.

[ohioguy13]

they move to redondo beach thats what we do with them lol

[innocentbychoice]

At first, I didn't like the fact that some tgirls won't have sex unless you pay them but, now that I think about it, straight guys pretty much pay for sex all the time. If you want to fuck a GG you take her out to dinner, once or twice, you pay everything each time and you might even give her gifts. You can't tell her upfront that you want to fuck her, so you just act like a gentleman, and spend tons of money along the way. And she can't tell you that she loves the attention and the free stuff, so she just plays hard to get.

So, when you're hanging out with a tgirl (and you know she's a tgirl) chances are, most of the times, you'll act like a horny bastard and pretty much tell her right away that you want her ass. So if you are that upfront, and you treat her and see her like a freaking object, then she's damn right in asking you for money. You also "donate" to the GGs but in a different way. Tgirls deserve the same.

[amberskyi]

i think a woman who has a decent job that she worked thru college to get is the sexiest thing...an independent woman who makes money legally is sexy.... not ones who hustle thru escorting.....

fuck what you think nigga

[T$420]

At first, I didn't like the fact that some tgirls won't have sex unless you pay them but, now that I think about it, straight guys pretty much pay for sex all the time. If you want to fuck a GG you take her out to dinner, once or twice, you pay everything each time and you might even give her gifts. You can't tell her upfront that you want to fuck her, so you just act like a gentleman, and spend tons of money along the way. And she can't tell you that she loves the attention and the free stuff, so she just plays hard to get.

So, when you're hanging out with a tgirl (and you know she's a tgirl) chances are, most of the times, you'll act like a horny bastard and pretty much tell her right away that you want her ass. So if you are that upfront, and you treat her and see her like a freaking object, then she's damn right in asking you for money. You also "donate" to the GGs but in a different way. Tgirls deserve the same.

You're absolutely right...I'm not ever going to judge or knock a girl who is hustling to make her $, but with my story, I wasn't told she was working...

Again, if I was the guy who hit her up off an ad & it was up front, it would be different...but I'm not that guy...

[NYBURBS]

It sounds as if she was attracted to you and wanted to get laid, but also tried to hustle some money from you in the process. Hustlers come in all shapes and sizes, but I guess it worked out for you anyway.

[T$420]

It sounds as if she was attracted to you and wanted to get laid, but also tried to hustle some money from you in the process. Hustlers come in all shapes and sizes, but I guess it worked out for you anyway.

I guess it worked out...until I see her out again...don't need drama but have a feeling there might be some...we shall see.

[T$420]

Upon further review...I think it's 99.99%

[drock]

Upon further review...I think it's 99.99%


That's pretty accurate..

[SirCumsAlot]

You know what you should do? Now, I haven't read all the responses because I'm not gonna sit up here and read all 11 pages, but, next time something like that happens to you, YOU ask her do she have the mula before she asks you 8-)

gotta play the gigolo, man!

[SirCumsAlot]

i think a woman who has a decent job that she worked thru college to get is the sexiest thing...an independent woman who makes money legally is sexy.... not ones who hustle thru escorting.....


fuck what you think nigga

haha I hate to say but I agree with him. Think about it, if you have no college education, or no career plans or whatever, what the hell you gonna do when you get too old for escorting??? No one's not gonna want no 50+ yrs old escort, well who knows, somebody might, but when it's "time to retire", what you gonna do? Cant escort until the day you die. And if you think you gonna have a boyfriend to help support you, you better get out this whole, "fuck dudes, get money" mind set quick. Escorting's not the only option but if a girl is living life like that is her only option, goal, or way to get money and/or live life, then that, my friend, is not sexy

[amberskyi]

haha I hate to say but I agree with him. Think about it, if you have no college education, or no career plans or whatever, what the hell you gonna do when you get too old for escorting??? No one's not gonna want no 50+ yrs old escort, well who knows, somebody might, but when it's "time to retire", what you gonna do? Cant escort until the day you die. And if you think you gonna have a boyfriend to help support you, you better get out this whole, "fuck dudes, get money" mind set quick. Escorting's not the only option but if a girl is living life like that is her only option, goal, or way to get money and/or live life, then that, my friend, is not sexy

you know zero about me,my background,goals or ambitions.dont presume that you know my motivations,mind set,or future.

[nsagent]

For all those that are saying he should ask before gettin up with her I got news for you (especially the girls sayin that)

i thought tgirls were women who wanted to be treated as such?? If so why the fuck would you want a man to ask you such a unnatural question? i have never asked a girl at the club if i had to pay to play before i went forward with her. Men dont talk to WOMEN like that...

[Ryz]

For all those that are saying he should ask before gettin up with her I got news for you (especially the girls sayin that)

i thought tgirls were women who wanted to be treated as such?? If so why the fuck would you want a man to ask you such a unnatural question? i have never asked a girl at the club if i had to pay to play before i went forward with her. Men dont talk to WOMEN like that...

I know right.

"Men just wanna have sex and use us they don't want a relationship! That's why we charge for our time!"

Who's really trying to date an escort though. :/

[tsparisangelline]

you know zero about me,my background,goals or ambitions.dont presume that you know my motivations,mind set,or future.

Ive been saying this for ages, lol.


I know right.

"Men just wanna have sex and use us they don't want a relationship! That's why we charge for our time!"

Who's really trying to date an escort though. :/

Plenty of men.

[Ryz]

Ive been saying this for ages, lol.



Plenty of men.

guyrollingandlaughinghysterically.gif :dead:

[tsparisangelline]

guyrollingandlaughinghysterically.gif :dead:

Uh huh, guess u havent noticed most escorts aren't single...

[Ryz]

Uh huh, guess u havent noticed most escorts aren't single...

Your "dates" don't count ;)

[tsparisangelline]

Your "dates" don't count ;)

I don't see black "dates"

[Ryz]

Do you spoil your boyfriend?

[tsparisangelline]

Do you spoil your boyfriend?

No, why would i?

[Ryz]

No, why would i?

I don't know. I'm sick and really bored. Just trying to get the day moving. Ugh what you doing

[nonnonnon]

I don't know. I'm sick and really bored. Just trying to get the day moving. Ugh what you doing

don't let her seduce you

[tsparisangelline]

I don't know. I'm sick and really bored. Just trying to get the day moving. Ugh what you doing

Wondering why d.c clients have no class.

[T$420]

You know what you should do? Now, I haven't read all the responses because I'm not gonna sit up here and read all 11 pages, but, next time something like that happens to you, YOU ask her do she have the mula before she asks you 8-)

gotta play the gigolo, man!

I think you hit it right on the head bro....I've decided I'm going to create my own service just for tranny's...I was watching the show "HUNG" on tv the other day & thought, I could really do that! Every girl I've been with leaves satisfied & tells me they love my cock & the way I fuck them, so why not? LMAO

I looked through EROS the other day & noticed that 3 ts girls I've been with are advertising on there...they never mentioned it to me when I met them or when I was with them, so obviously the "donation" word never came up in conversation but they all wanted to see me again later on....

[lisaparadise]

Wondering why d.c clients have no class.roflmfao.

[tsparisangelline]

I think you hit it right on the head bro....I've decided I'm going to create my own service just for tranny's...I was watching the show "HUNG" on tv the other day & thought, I could really do that! Every girl I've been with leaves satisfied & tells me they love my cock & the way I fuck them, so why not? LMAO

I looked through EROS the other day & noticed that 3 ts girls I've been with are advertising on there...they never mentioned it to me when I met them or when I was with them, so obviously the "donation" word never came up in conversation but they all wanted to see me again later on....

Male prostitution thrives with homosexuals not women.
Lol @ pink dick being satisfying

*vomitz*



roflmfao.

Chile they all wanna talk nasty and are overly nervous about police.

Why the fuck would a cop be on youtube..

[T$420]

Male prostitution thrives with homosexuals not women.
Lol @ pink dick being satisfying

*vomitz*



It doesn't matter what color the cock is when it's big enough sweetheart...stop being such a racist little biatch, I wouldn't fuck you if my cock was purple...

[SirCumsAlot]

you know zero about me,my background,goals or ambitions.dont presume that you know my motivations,mind set,or future.

You damn right I dont know zero about you and who the hell said I was talking about you? I was talking about every tgirl out there with a mindset like that. If you say you have goals and a set future, congrats to you, and any other tgirl who thinks the same

[dolce__vita]

I think you hit it right on the head bro....I've decided I'm going to create my own service just for tranny's...I was watching the show "HUNG" on tv the other day & thought, I could really do that! Every girl I've been with leaves satisfied & tells me they love my cock & the way I fuck them, so why not? LMAO

I looked through EROS the other day & noticed that 3 ts girls I've been with are advertising on there...they never mentioned it to me when I met them or when I was with them, so obviously the "donation" word never came up in conversation but they all wanted to see me again later on....

You're pretty conceited. They must've had pretty low self esteem or needed the validation of fucking some random dude. They must be really classy to have sex with a random guy from a bar, especially a tranny chaser. :puke :puke

[tsparisangelline]

It doesn't matter what color the cock is when it's big enough sweetheart...stop being such a racist little biatch, I wouldn't fuck you if my cock was purple...

But yet you wanted to chill for free :(

Lol size doesn't matter when a guys a delusional chaser.

Dead @racist against whites

Damn i guess hate all races lol



You're pretty conceited. They must've had pretty low self esteem or needed the validation of fucking some random dude. They must be really classy to have sex with a random guy from a bar, especially a tranny chaser. :puke :puke

Chile imma need you to make a best friends forever bracelet ive already made yours.

[tsparisangelline]

This idiot has the nerve.

Hes giving me freddie teas now

[amberskyi]

You damn right I dont know zero about you and who the hell said I was talking about you? I was talking about every tgirl out there with a mindset like that. If you say you have goals and a set future, congrats to you, and any other tgirl who thinks the same

because you said something very similar in another thread when you responded to something i said

[RubyTS]

reading thru these posts i realize there are so few people on this board whos opinions and views i agree with. Aside from that there is so much jade, immaturity, low self esteem (Usually disguised by over-confident, or cocky remarks but not disguised very well at all!) and definsiveness among everyone. there are so many more of u i am growing to dislike more and more with each post. But what i find funny and thoroughly ammusing is the fact that i can literally see thru people and there is an obvious undertone to a lot of written posts here that completely contradict the point of the post itself. Why must i analyze everything lol

[BLKGSXR]

reading thru these posts i realize there are so few people on this board whos opinions and views i agree with. Aside from that there is so much jade, immaturity, low self esteem, and definsiveness among everyone. there are so many more of u i am growing to dislike more and more with each post. But what i find funny and thoroughly ammusing is the fact that i can literally see thru people and there is an obvious undertone to a lot of written posts here that completely contradict the point of the post itself. Why must i analyze everything lol
Sharping the knives to stick people with Ruby...?
Everywhere you go in life you wont always see eye-to-eye with people but being Mature enough to accept their point of view and not push your own onto them is what defines you as a person.

[T$420]

You're pretty conceited. They must've had pretty low self esteem or needed the validation of fucking some random dude. They must be really classy to have sex with a random guy from a bar, especially a tranny chaser. :puke :puke

I knew that was coming, I was joking about the charging part, lol.

Why must they have had pretty low self esteem or need validation? I'm not just some random dude, I actually took a couple of them out for dinner & drinks before we ever hooked up.

Just cause a girl gets paid to have sex, doesn't mean she enjoys it. From what I've heard not everybody knows how to fuck a ts the right way....so why not kick it with a chill cat, have a good time, and if it leads to it, take it to the next level?

And if I'm the one getting chased by a tranny, does that make me the chaser?? ;)

[T$420]

For all those that are saying he should ask before gettin up with her I got news for you (especially the girls sayin that)

i thought tgirls were women who wanted to be treated as such?? If so why the fuck would you want a man to ask you such a unnatural question? i have never asked a girl at the club if i had to pay to play before i went forward with her. Men dont talk to WOMEN like that...

Thank you...exactly...

[T$420]

But yet you wanted to chill for free :(

Lol size doesn't matter when a guys a delusional chaser.

Dead @racist against whites

Damn i guess hate all races lol



If I want to chill & smoke herb, it doesn't mean I want to fuck you...I've smoked with girls waaay hotter than you & haven't done anything more than just be cool friends with them...and you're right, size doesn't matter...unless u know how to use it...

[BLKGSXR]

I gotta agree with my boy TS420
I smoked out numerous girls and girls who dont know me assumed I wanted something I said is it wrong for me to smoke a friend out who I happen to really like as a "friend" because they dont bring drama to me...This girl said "I dont like you" Gsxr-oh thats fine I have enough people liking me already.
That said its hit and miss and it does matter on who you are with or friends with.

[BLKGSXR]

Exactly...I mean come on bro, how many girls have we smoked out either at the club or afterward at Buddy's house that we haven't done anything more with? I think the answer is, the majority of them...
I still cant believe he broke my blunt up and handed me the weed back-fucked my high up but same time hella happy I got my shit back lol!

[T$420]

I still cant believe he broke my blunt up and handed me the weed back-fucked my high up but same time hella happy I got my shit back lol!

I can't stand that little bitch...he was like "it's my rule not to smoke weed out here in the back patio" and the fucker is the ASSistant Manager, lol! That tool was fucking all of our buzzes up, including Buddy's...we need to find a way to remove his dumbass from the club...

[BLKGSXR]

I can't stand that little bitch...he was like "it's my rule not to smoke weed out here in the back patio" and the fucker is the ASSistant Manager, lol! That tool was fucking all of our buzzes up, including Buddy's...we need to find a way to remove his dumbass from the club...
Hes been fired before he is NOT the Assistant manager..
That said he just trys too hard to fit in with the Patrons.

[tsparisangelline]

I knew that was coming, I was joking about the charging part, lol.

Why must they have had pretty low self esteem or need validation? I'm not just some random dude, I actually took a couple of them out for dinner & drinks before we ever hooked up.

Just cause a girl gets paid to have sex, doesn't mean she enjoys it. From what I've heard not everybody knows how to fuck a ts the right way....so why not kick it with a chill cat, have a good time, and if it leads to it, take it to the next level?

And if I'm the one getting chased by a tranny, does that make me the chaser?? ;)

Only a desperate ho chases.


If I want to chill & smoke herb, it doesn't mean I want to fuck you...I've smoked with girls waaay hotter than you & haven't done anything more than just be cool friends with them...and you're right, size doesn't matter...unless u know how to use it...

Uh huh the percentage of girls prettier than me is 0 well claudia and bianca freire get it lol. Othetwise nwww.
Oh and j.p


Exactly...I mean come on bro, how many girls have we smoked out either at the club or afterward at Buddy's house that we haven't done anything more with? I think the answer is, the majority of them...

Yea cuz they chose not to

[NatashaLover]

So last night Im out at a club and after it closes, a pretty sexy ts girl who was fllirting with me earlier, spots me and asks me to come over to her car to talk. She tells me she is going home and I should call her in 10 minutes. So after I call her, she invites me to come over, so I head out to her pad.

After arriving at her apartment, she invites me in, then leads me back to her room. She then starts undressing me, as well as herself, rubbing me and yanking on my cock. All I'm thinking is "yeah, its on, I'm about to fuck the shit out of this girl!"

Then she says, "do you have a donation for me?" I'm thinking motherfucker, I'm not the type of cat that ever has to pay for sex & I tell her that straight out. She then asks me how much $ I have on me and I tell her I don't have anything on me. At this point, I figure, fuck this, I will just bounce. But she is still yanking on my dick and telling me to get naked. She then tells me to "take care" of her next time & starts to suck my cock. So I figure, why not? Throw on a magnum and fucked the shit out of her, just like I originally planned.

She is stroking herself and cums all over her stomach while I'm breaking her off and then she can't take anymore and tells me to jerk off all over her...which I obliged. Then I get dressed and she walks me to the door, and reminds me to remember her "donation" next time.

Now, I've pulled some girls from this club b4 and met up, never was asked to "pay" only to maybe bring over some vodka or some weed, which I love anyway...

My question is, do I have to actually ask a girl if she is in fact "working" before I leave with her? How many girls out there actually are working girls? I'm still fairly new to this scene, so any response is appreciated! Thanks!

Nice story, this sounds like a good movie clip scene. I think there is a big percent of non working tgirls out there but they are living in stealth. You wont find them in tgirl clubs, just in straight regular clubs. (yeah its hard to find them)

[dolce__vita]

I knew that was coming, I was joking about the charging part, lol.

Why must they have had pretty low self esteem or need validation? I'm not just some random dude, I actually took a couple of them out for dinner & drinks before we ever hooked up.

Just cause a girl gets paid to have sex, doesn't mean she enjoys it. From what I've heard not everybody knows how to fuck a ts the right way....so why not kick it with a chill cat, have a good time, and if it leads to it, take it to the next level?

And if I'm the one getting chased by a tranny, does that make me the chaser?? ;)

You have sex with men with breast implants, you're a chaser :puke :puke :puke :puke

[dolce__vita]

But yet you wanted to chill for free :(





Chile imma need you to make a best friends forever bracelet ive already made yours.



Yes Fish!!!!!:)

[tsparisangelline]

Yes Fish!!!!!:)


Lol you already know

[onmyknees]

reading thru these posts i realize there are so few people on this board whos opinions and views i agree with. Aside from that there is so much jade, immaturity, low self esteem (Usually disguised by over-confident, or cocky remarks but not disguised very well at all!) and definsiveness among everyone. there are so many more of u i am growing to dislike more and more with each post. But what i find funny and thoroughly ammusing is the fact that i can literally see thru people and there is an obvious undertone to a lot of written posts here that completely contradict the point of the post itself. Why must i analyze everything lol

Exactly !!!!!!!! I love the humor of it all !! But one thing it's not is boring. If we all just "got along" and showered each other with sweet nothings....it would be just like that other place. Nice....but boring. Is it a representitive cross section of society at large ? Probably not but I find most people essentially tedious. Don't over analyze baby...there's not enough hours in the day to shrink this crowd ! LOL

[SirCumsAlot]

because you said something very similar in another thread when you responded to something i said

my bad, dont take it to heart. I wasn't talking about you. I don't judge people I don't know, that's not me. I was just trying to make a statement and hope to get it threw people heads who read this who may be a bit hard headed. If anyone gets offended, then they may be the hard headed one I was talking about, if someone don't get offended over it, then everythings cool. I'm not trying to get at no one, just trying to make a simple opinion and statement

[T$420]

Only a desperate ho chases.



Uh huh the percentage of girls prettier than me is 0 well claudia and bianca freire get it lol. Othetwise nwww.
Oh and j.p



Yea cuz they chose not to

You're so wack...how's that photo shopping of your test results working out for you???

[SirCumsAlot]

Only a desperate ho chases.



Uh huh the percentage of girls prettier than me is 0 well claudia and bianca freire get it lol. Othetwise nwww.


:shock::dead:::dead::bs::dead::dead::dead:

[phobun]

You have sex with men with breast implants, you're a chaser :puke :puke :puke :puke


true enough

[T$420]

Nice story, this sounds like a good movie clip scene. I think there is a big percent of non working tgirls out there but they are living in stealth. You wont find them in tgirl clubs, just in straight regular clubs. (yeah its hard to find them)

For sure...very difficult to find, but they must be out there!!

[T$420]

You have sex with men with breast implants, you're a chaser :puke :puke :puke :puke

Who the fuck are you Dolce vita? you have 10 posts under your belt and you're talking shit? Come on, let us know what gender you are & why you are gracing us with your presence...stop hiding...

[RubyTS]

For sure...very difficult to find, but they must be out there!!

sure sounds like a chaser to me :hide-1:

[dlbi22]

Who the fuck are you Dolce vita? you have 10 posts under your belt and you're talking shit? Come on, let us know what gender you are & why you are gracing us with your presence...stop hiding...

its ashley george... shes a joke

[dolce__vita]

its ashley george... shes a joke

You're mothers a joke faggot.

[T$420]

sure sounds like a chaser to me :hide-1:

if it wasn't for chasers, you'd be broke...

[dolce__vita]

Who the fuck are you Dolce vita? you have 10 posts under your belt and you're talking shit? Come on, let us know what gender you are & why you are gracing us with your presence...stop hiding...

My name is Ashley, I'm a TS and I think you sound like a moron. I'm not hiding!

[RubyTS]

if it wasn't for chasers, you'd be broke...

thats y i love u baby! lonnngg timmme!!!!

[T$420]

You have sex with men with breast implants, you're a chaser :puke :puke :puke :puke


So, what does that make you? a man with little hormone titties & a tiny little peepee...

[T$420]

My name is Ashley, I'm a TS and I think you sound like a moron. I'm not hiding!

You are pretty cute though...

[dolce__vita]

So, what does that make you? a man with little hormone titties & a tiny little peepee...

My breasts are a 34-E they are nobody's little titties

[T$420]

thats y i love u baby! lonnngg timmme!!!!

So how do you define a chaser? I'm just curious...i pull both girls & ts but I've never paid for ass...

[T$420]

My breasts are a 34-E they are nobody's little titties

34-E??? I don't believe you....prove it

[RubyTS]

So how do you define a chaser? I'm just curious...i pull both girls & ts but I've never paid for ass...

a man who post on ts websites asking where he can find free trannie ass pretty much defines a chaser to me. maybe theres a better term? chaser is a little harsh but thats what it is same as ts and chick with a dick or tranny.But the truth is mmost of yall aint ts lovers, youre just tranny ass/cock chasers.
And if u dont mind taking my criticism with an open mind and not getting defensive like u do all yoo often, your fake cocky attitude doesnt help u much either. hot guys are so much hotter when they are humble. You constantly tell the girls on here about how you've banged way hotter girls" and always feel the need to mention in every post how u dont and never will pay almost as if youre trying to convince yourself.

[RubyTS]

yet and still you continue to post here and converse with sex workers.

[dlbi22]

You're mothers a joke faggot.

*your

[dolce__vita]

a man who post on ts websites asking where he can find free trannie ass pretty much defines a chaser to me. maybe theres a better term? chaser is a little harsh but thats what it is same as ts and chick with a dick or tranny.But the truth is mmost of yall aint ts lovers, youre just tranny ass/cock chasers.
And if u dont mind taking my criticism with an open mind and not getting defensive like u do all yoo often, your fake cocky attitude doesnt help u much either. hot guys are so much hotter when they are humble. You constantly tell the girls on here about how you've banged way hotter girls" and always feel the need to mention in every post how u dont and never will pay almost as if youre trying to convince yourself.

:iagree: She said what I was trying to say in a more eloquent manner. You'd do well to take her advice. PS Ruby, you were the first TS I ever saw on Youtube when I was like 15 (I'm 19 now) I've always LOVED your funny ass videos and honest approach. I admire you a lot!! :) Loved your vid where you layed out all the cash for your FFS...I can't wait to do that too!!! :)

[dolce__vita]

*your

Haha I'm usually the one making that correction :-P

[dlbi22]

Haha I'm usually the one making that correction :-P

people forget when theyre mad:)

[RubyTS]

:iagree: She said what I was trying to say in a more eloquent manner. You'd do well to take her advice. PS Ruby, you were the first TS I ever saw on Youtube when I was like 15 (I'm 19 now) I've always LOVED your funny ass videos and honest approach. I admire you a lot!! :) Loved your vid where you layed out all the cash for your FFS...I can't wait to do that too!!! :)

lol thanks, i miss my youtube too but i just dont have the patience anymore. im glad u liked it! Me and my hubby have some stuff up in the air i cant really talk about but there will be a lot more of us out together hopefully soon

[dolce__vita]

34-E??? I don't believe you....prove it

Even though you absolutely dont deserve it...

[T$420]

Even though you absolutely dont deserve it...

Looking good ma...

[T$420]

yet and still you continue to post here and converse with sex workers.

That's because I still got mad love for you all...its not easy being you, so I respect what you've gone thru...

[RubyTS]

That's because I still got mad love for you all...its not easy being you, so I respect what you've gone thru...

Im not trying to bash u, i actually can tell that ur a cool guy with NOT AS MUCH malicious intentions as a lot of the guys were used to dealing with, but it really doesnt come across when you get defensive, you put on this egotistical exterior that really isnt a good look for you. and to be honest i dont know 1 woman that thinks cockiness on a man is sexy, in fact its MY biggest turn off! some guys are just so much hotter when they are humble and quiet. Usually the hot ones open their mouth and a huge pile of shit falls out lol

[T$420]

a man who post on ts websites asking where he can find free trannie ass pretty much defines a chaser to me. maybe theres a better term? chaser is a little harsh but thats what it is same as ts and chick with a dick or tranny.But the truth is mmost of yall aint ts lovers, youre just tranny ass/cock chasers.
And if u dont mind taking my criticism with an open mind and not getting defensive like u do all yoo often, your fake cocky attitude doesnt help u much either. hot guys are so much hotter when they are humble. You constantly tell the girls on here about how you've banged way hotter girls" and always feel the need to mention in every post how u dont and never will pay almost as if youre trying to convince yourself.

ok...well, I'm not on here tyring to find free trannie ass....

when I go out with a ts girl, i treat her with respect and act as if she is just like any other girl...

I don't constantly tell girls I've banged hotter girls than them, with the exception of that young and dumb racist biatch....what's her name...i can't even think of it right now, but you know who i'm talking about, lol

I've never paid, but if i take a girl out and pay for dinner does that count? If I kiss her like I would any other gg, does that make me a chaser or a lover?

[T$420]

Im not trying to bash u, i actually can tell that ur a cool guy with NOT AS MUCH malicious intentions as a lot of the guys were used to dealing with, but it really doesnt come across when you get defensive, you put on this egotistical exterior that really isnt a good look for you. and to be honest i dont know 1 woman that thinks cockiness on a man is sexy, in fact its MY biggest turn off! some guys are just so much hotter when they are humble and quiet. Usually the hot ones open their mouth and a huge pile of shit falls out lol

You are right, maybe I shouldn't get defensive, but i'm a counter puncher, I don't start it, just fire back when I feel i'm being attacked...I'd say i'm more confident than cocky but maybe I should just be more humble and shut up...

[dolce__vita]

ok...well, I'm not on here tyring to find free trannie ass....

when I go out with a ts girl, i treat her with respect and act as if she is just like any other girl...

I don't constantly tell girls I've banged hotter girls than them, with the exception of that young and dumb racist biatch....what's her name...i can't even think of it right now, but you know who i'm talking about, lol

I've never paid, but if i take a girl out and pay for dinner does that count? If I kiss her like I would any other gg, does that make me a chaser or a lover?

A chaser is someone who fetishizes (is that a word??) a ts girl down to one feature, her cock. Theres nothing I can't stand more than that! Because when it comes down to it, the only reason a man would ACTIVELY PURSUE a Ts girl is her cock, because assuming that she is feminine and passable the only difference between her and a GG is the dick. I've heard of rare mystical men that don't chase TS girls down like hungry tigers, but under the right circumstances would take one out, just as they would a GG. However, if these mystical creatures exist, you won't find them at Tranny Clubs or on HungAngels. If I believed in love that would be the type of guy I'd be holding out for.

[RubyTS]

ok...well, I'm not on here tyring to find free trannie ass....

when I go out with a ts girl, i treat her with respect and act as if she is just like any other girl...

I don't constantly tell girls I've banged hotter girls than them, with the exception of that young and dumb racist biatch....what's her name...i can't even think of it right now, but you know who i'm talking about, lol

I've never paid, but if i take a girl out and pay for dinner does that count? If I kiss her like I would any other gg, does that make me a chaser or a lover?

actually thats also the first thing u said to me when we had our first little tiff and yeah i noticed u said it to whats her face too. i think the statement alone that u made which ii quoted in itself was enough to raise a red flag to girls who are avoiding tranny chasers" aside from the fact that your even on a ts website to begin with. But if you want you can call it a ts admirer, if that makes u feel any better about it.

[RubyTS]

A chaser is someone who fetishizes (is that a word??) a ts girl down to one feature, her cock. Theres nothing I can't stand more than that! Because when it comes down to it, the only reason a man would ACTIVELY PURSUE a Ts girl is her cock, because assuming that she is feminine and passable the only difference between her and a GG is the dick. I've heard of rare mystical men that don't chase TS girls down like hungry tigers, but under the right circumstances would take one out, just as they would a GG. However, if these mystical creatures exist, you won't find them at Tranny Clubs or on HungAngels. If I believed in love that would be the type of guy I'd be holding out for.

yes yes yes like like LIKKKKKE!!!! u turned it lmfaoo

[T$420]

actually thats also the first thing u said to me when we had our first little tiff and yeah i noticed u said it to whats her face too. i think the statement alone that u made which ii quoted in itself was enough to raise a red flag to girls who are avoiding tranny chasers" aside from the fact that your even on a ts website to begin with. But if you want you can call it a ts admirer, if that makes u feel any better about it.

That's true, I did say that to you, lol...but I like you a million times better than what's her face...

[RubyTS]

That's true, I did say that to you, lol...but I like you a million times better than what's her face...

yeah... noww! lol. thats only cuz i admitted to crusties on my wall

[dlbi22]

A chaser is someone who fetishizes (is that a word??) a ts girl down to one feature, her cock. Theres nothing I can't stand more than that! Because when it comes down to it, the only reason a man would ACTIVELY PURSUE a Ts girl is her cock, because assuming that she is feminine and passable the only difference between her and a GG is the dick. I've heard of rare mystical men that don't chase TS girls down like hungry tigers, but under the right circumstances would take one out, just as they would a GG. However, if these mystical creatures exist, you won't find them at Tranny Clubs or on HungAngels. If I believed in love that would be the type of guy I'd be holding out for.

yeah, well we like a girl with a cock...pretty simple haha

[T$420]

A chaser is someone who fetishizes (is that a word??) a ts girl down to one feature, her cock. Theres nothing I can't stand more than that! Because when it comes down to it, the only reason a man would ACTIVELY PURSUE a Ts girl is her cock, because assuming that she is feminine and passable the only difference between her and a GG is the dick. I've heard of rare mystical men that don't chase TS girls down like hungry tigers, but under the right circumstances would take one out, just as they would a GG. However, if these mystical creatures exist, you won't find them at Tranny Clubs or on HungAngels. If I believed in love that would be the type of guy I'd be holding out for.

I don't know that I entirely agree with you here...I don't hook up with ts girls only for their cock, actually that's the last thing I'm into...I love ts girls because they are exotic, they aren't some boring white girl that I see everyday here in LA. I've always been attracted to more exotic women, and you can't get much more exotic than a hot ts...and yeah, if I had a chance, I would love to take you out on a date & treat you just like I do to any other girl...

[dlbi22]

I don't know that I entirely agree with you here...I don't hook up with ts girls only for their cock, actually that's the last thing I'm into...I love ts girls because they are exotic, they aren't some boring white girl that I see everyday here in LA. I've always been attracted to more exotic women, and you can't get much more exotic than a hot ts...and yeah, if I had a chance, I would love to take you out on a date & treat you just like I do to any other girl...

that sounds better than what i said haha

[T$420]

that sounds better than what i said haha

lmao!

[dolce__vita]

I don't know that I entirely agree with you here...I don't hook up with ts girls only for their cock, actually that's the last thing I'm into...I love ts girls because they are exotic, they aren't some boring white girl that I see everyday here in LA. I've always been attracted to more exotic women, and you can't get much more exotic than a hot ts...and yeah, if I had a chance, I would love to take you out on a date & treat you just like I do to any other girl...

Well a boring white girl is exactly what I look like so I must not be your type.

[RubyTS]

yeah, well we like a girl with a cock...pretty simple haha

the only thing that bothers me about tranny chasers is the fact that the range in attraction for them is so much wider than the range in females. For example, while men date/fuck females, they usually stick to a specific type! While tranny chasers will go after black, white, puertorican, chinese, big, small, old, young, fat thick AND skinny, passable AND non passable. how can u like me AND like herrrrrrrrrr??? it just doesnt make sense to me, unless what ur attracted to is simply the fact that we r transexual and nothing else really matters.Everyone wants to feel special right? No man wants to be liked for his money, and we dont want to be liked siimply for what we are, but who we are. That doesnt happen with chasers, which is why a lot of us girls avoid them. Chasers are more like fan's.

[amberskyi]

A chaser is someone who fetishizes (is that a word??) a ts girl down to one feature, her cock. Theres nothing I can't stand more than that! Because when it comes down to it, the only reason a man would ACTIVELY PURSUE a Ts girl is her cock, because assuming that she is feminine and passable the only difference between her and a GG is the dick. I've heard of rare mystical men that don't chase TS girls down like hungry tigers, but under the right circumstances would take one out, just as they would a GG. However, if these mystical creatures exist, you won't find them at Tranny Clubs or on HungAngels. If I believed in love that would be the type of guy I'd be holding out for.

those men that your talking about do exist but theyre like fucking four leaf clovers.you cant really look for them,you just stumble upon them.its funny tho how every "ts admirer" CLAIMS to be that guy.

[T$420]

Well a boring white girl is exactly what I look like so I must not be your type.

I don't think you look boring whatsoever....

[dlbi22]

the only thing that bothers me about tranny chasers is the fact that the range in attraction for them is so much wider than the range in females. For example, while men date/fuck females, they usually stick to a specific type! While tranny chasers will go after black, white, puertorican, chinese, big, small, old, young, fat thick AND skinny, passable AND non passable. how can u like me AND like herrrrrrrrrr??? it just doesnt make sense to me, unless what ur attracted to is simply the fact that we r transexual and nothing else really matters.Everyone wants to feel special right? No man wants to be liked for his money, and we dont want to be liked siimply for what we are, but who we are. That doesnt happen with chasers, which is why a lot of us girls avoid them. Chasers are more like fan's.

well you took that a little too seriously...

but thats absolutely false about sticking to a specific type of girl. i actually find it to be the opposite of what you said between female and ts... atleast with me

[amberskyi]

I don't know that I entirely agree with you here...I don't hook up with ts girls only for their cock, actually that's the last thing I'm into...I love ts girls because they are exotic, they aren't some boring white girl that I see everyday here in LA. I've always been attracted to more exotic women, and you can't get much more exotic than a hot ts...and yeah, if I had a chance, I would love to take you out on a date & treat you just like I do to any other girl...

than why not just date real exotic genetic women???i know tons of gg's that are waayyy more exotic than me lol.you living in LA should too.
you guys really should just be honest with yourselves...

[dlbi22]

than why not just date real exotic genetic women???i know tons of gg's that are waayyy more exotic than me lol.you living in LA should too.
you guys really should just be honest with yourselves...

ok..we're both in NY... lets get out haha

[RubyTS]

well you took that a little too seriously...

but thats absolutely false about sticking to a specific type of girl. i actually find it to be the opposite of what you said between female and ts... atleast with me

i think i might have a little more experience in dealing with tranny chasers than you

[T$420]

the only thing that bothers me about tranny chasers is the fact that the range in attraction for them is so much wider than the range in females. For example, while men date/fuck females, they usually stick to a specific type! While tranny chasers will go after black, white, puertorican, chinese, big, small, old, young, fat thick AND skinny, passable AND non passable. how can u like me AND like herrrrrrrrrr??? it just doesnt make sense to me, unless what ur attracted to is simply the fact that we r transexual and nothing else really matters.Everyone wants to feel special right? No man wants to be liked for his money, and we dont want to be liked siimply for what we are, but who we are. That doesnt happen with chasers, which is why a lot of us girls avoid them. Chasers are more like fan's.

Well according to what you just said, I'm out of the "chaser" category....I'm picky as hell and have never hooked up with a fat, big, or non-passable ts girl or gg for that matter...i do stick to a specific type, both gg & ts have to be exotic looking in order for me to be attracted to them...and i don't just hook up with anybody...

[amberskyi]

the only thing that bothers me about tranny chasers is the fact that the range in attraction for them is so much wider than the range in females. For example, while men date/fuck females, they usually stick to a specific type! While tranny chasers will go after black, white, puertorican, chinese, big, small, old, young, fat thick AND skinny, passable AND non passable. how can u like me AND like herrrrrrrrrr??? it just doesnt make sense to me, unless what ur attracted to is simply the fact that we r transexual and nothing else really matters.Everyone wants to feel special right? No man wants to be liked for his money, and we dont want to be liked siimply for what we are, but who we are. That doesnt happen with chasers, which is why a lot of us girls avoid them. Chasers are more like fan's.

you must be on tour to be up this late and on this website...

[dlbi22]

i think i might have a little more experience in dealing with tranny chasers than you

haha that is true...

[T$420]

than why not just date real exotic genetic women???i know tons of gg's that are waayyy more exotic than me lol.you living in LA should too.
you guys really should just be honest with yourselves...

I have dated real exotic genetic women, I can't help it if I'm attracted to beautiful exotic ts girls too...I am being honest...

[dolce__vita]

than why not just date real exotic genetic women???i know tons of gg's that are waayyy more exotic than me lol.you living in LA should too.
you guys really should just be honest with yourselves...

That's all I'm saying too!! Be honest and girls will respect you!! If you wanna get fucked and suck dick just say so but I can't stand the front guys put up...I live my life true to myself why can't guys??

[RubyTS]

you must be on tour to be up this late and on this website...

lol no im still stuck on amazon.com lol i cant stop shopping its become a really bad addiction!!! i really should work though ugh i just keep seeing my #'s get lower and lower. btw today is my bday! im gonna spend it waiting on my cpu and vanity table deliveries lol

[RubyTS]

haha that is true...

lol :dancing:i win

[dolce__vita]

I don't think you look boring whatsoever....

Well thanks. But I'm going to play PS3 and go to bed lattterrrr

[T$420]

That's all I'm saying too!! Be honest and girls will respect you!! If you wanna get fucked and suck dick just say so but I can't stand the front guys put up...I live my life true to myself why can't guys??

I will never get fucked....I'm the only one who does the fucking, lol

[RubyTS]

Well thanks. But I'm going to play PS3 and go to bed lattterrrr

whats ur sn? u have resident evil 5??? add me rubyliscious

[amberskyi]

lol no im still stuck on amazon.com lol i cant stop shopping its become a really bad addiction!!! i really should work though ugh i just keep seeing my #'s get lower and lower. btw today is my bday! im gonna spend it waiting on my cpu and vanity table deliveries lol

i saw that on facebook.i was going to wish you a happy birthday in the morning.well here it is HAPPY BIRTHDAYYY!!! LOL

[dlbi22]

I will never get fucked....I'm the only one who does the fucking, lol

yea...not all guys that are into ts are the same. i've dated 2 girls who were both 100% bottoms and thats what i like

[gaga99]

The term "chaser" is stupid & redundant. So a guy who goes after a bunch of gg's is a girl chaser? Yes. What's the problem with a "tg chaser"? If that's what you're into then why not go for it?

[amberskyi]

I have dated real exotic genetic women, I can't help it if I'm attracted to beautiful exotic ts girls too...I am being honest...

and your attracted to exotic ts girls because we have something extra....OUR DICKS! if you werent attracted to us for that reason than the exotic pussies would be enough for you...

[RubyTS]

The term "chaser" is stupid & redundant. So a guy who goes after a bunch of gg's is a girl chaser? Yes. What's the problem with a "tg chaser"? If that's what you're into then why not go for it?

try reading

[dlbi22]

and your attracted to exotic ts girls because we have something extra....OUR DICKS! if you werent attracted to us for that reason than the exotic pussies would be enough for you...

you never think that it could be the fact that some ts were born male and are hotter than alot of girls born female?

[RubyTS]

i saw that on facebook.i was going to wish you a happy birthday in the morning.well here it is HAPPY BIRTHDAYYY!!! LOL

thank u bayyybayyy!!!! im finally 18!!! :whistle:

[amberskyi]

The term "chaser" is stupid & redundant. So a guy who goes after a bunch of gg's is a girl chaser? Yes. What's the problem with a "tg chaser"? If that's what you're into then why not go for it?

its only stupid and redundant because you didnt take the time to find out what a chaser is.
and trust me girl have terms for guys like that too i.e "dog" , "thirsty" and etc
anyways the guys who usually get offended are usually ...... lol

[amberskyi]

thank u bayyybayyy!!!! im finally 18!!! :whistle:

shhhh im still 21

[T$420]

and your attracted to exotic ts girls because we have something extra....OUR DICKS! if you werent attracted to us for that reason than the exotic pussies would be enough for you...

I've had plenty of exotic pussy in my life...maybe I got bored with it but I'm not only attracted to exotic ts girls because of your dicks! I love the other features as well, face, ass, tits, hips, lips, legs....

[gaga99]

try reading
Awesome rebuttal, I'll pass tho.

[amberskyi]

you never think that it could be the fact that some ts were born male and are hotter than alot of girls born female?

what do males have? smh
i honestly feel like we're going in circles.lol.if you like hot women than theyre are TONS and TONS of genetic women who are hella sexy.there are more hot gg's than there are hot ts girls,trust.

[RubyTS]

what do males have? smh
i honestly feel like we're going in circles.lol.if you like hot women than theyre are TONS and TONS of genetic women who are hella sexy.there are more hot gg's than there are hot ts girls,trust.

girl i gave up, no side will ever win lol. they just dont get it and they wont until they live in our shoes, pay it and pummp, im grabbing a bowl of cereal lmao

[dlbi22]

girl i gave up, no side will ever win lol. they just dont get it and they wont until they live in our shoes, pay it and pummp, im grabbing a bowl of cereal lmao


this argument will go on FOREVER haha

[RubyTS]

lets just say then there there are chasers and men that have chaser qualities lol and m,aybe not every man on here is a chaser, but the fact that u saught out this website means that u have CHASER QUALITIES! Fair enuf? lol

[amberskyi]

girl i gave up, no side will ever win lol. they just dont get it and they wont until they live in our shoes, pay it and pummp, im grabbing a bowl of cereal lmao

i already got my ghetto ass hot cheddar poopcorn. 25 cents a bag.im soo hood ahahah

[RubyTS]

i canttt lol i got a headache now lol, i gotta wake up when my deliveries come so im out. goodnight yall

[slinky]

The single biggest problem I have with the use of "tranny chaser" here is that it is almost always used as an epithet, and the derogatory tone is usually coming from someone who makes their living off of "them". In the same way I don't like TS calling guys who like TS "faggots".

but there certainly are "tranny chasers" in the same way you have "chubby chasers", guys with "yellow fever", "jungle fever", etc. To me, not every guy who has an interest in TS is a Tranny Chaser. OTOH, when I some of the following characteristics I myself this "chaser":
- When meeting a TS the first words out of the guy's mouth are "Hell" or "What's your name?", but instead "How big is your dick?" or "Do you top?"
- Guys who start threads on HA like "Which GG's do you wish had cocks?"
- Guys who comments on total bricks, no tits, FFS or any other sign of "work" who are obviously "men in bad wigs", but have huge cocks, and what they have to say is "isn't she gorgeous".

[BLKGSXR]

The single biggest problem I have with the use of "tranny chaser" here is that it is almost always used as an epithet, and the derogatory tone is usually coming from someone who makes their living off of "them". In the same way I don't like TS calling guys who like TS "faggots".

but there certainly are "tranny chasers" in the same way you have "chubby chasers", guys with "yellow fever", "jungle fever", etc. To me, not every guy who has an interest in TS is a Tranny Chaser. OTOH, when I some of the following characteristics I myself this "chaser":
- When meeting a TS the first words out of the guy's mouth are "Hell" or "What's your name?", but instead "How big is your dick?" or "Do you top?"
- Guys who start threads on HA like "Which GG's do you wish had cocks?"
- Guys who comments on total bricks, no tits, FFS or any other sign of "work" who are obviously "men in bad wigs", but have huge cocks, and what they have to say is "isn't she gorgeous".
Very well said. Slinky

[NYTSJulie]

99.9 percent, there are too many thirsty men willing to pay so its hard for us not to get into the biz

[Silcc69]

99.9 percent, there are too many thirsty men willing to pay so its hard for us not to get into the biz

Damn them.