Finally able to define what I like (or come close to it, atleast)

[toopretty]

Bare with me as I may ramble on a bit

I have said on here before that I am sexually attracted to very attractive,feminine fem boys (or whatever they are called). But if i was ever to date one I would want him/her to be permanently like that, not someone who goes goes back and forth between "girl" and "boy" mode... I would want total "femboy" mode forever. And my attraction to ts women is singular to a ts that WANTS to be a ts... not a ts that is in the process of becoming a woman by getting srs. I want them to want to keep their penis and use it. I dont really have the desire to be a bottom (and dont consider myself even remotely gay) but If Im in a committed relationship with one and she wants to be the one doing the fucking sometimes, then I will not force her to go elsewhere to do it.
I just read about the "travesti identity" and it more closely resembles my preferences. I used to think "travesti" was just the spanish word for "transsexual" or something like that. But travesti is its own unique identity.

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anybody else feel the same way as me?

ladies, what your take on this?

[amberskyi]

if they identify as gay and dont see themselves as woman wouldnt thank make you gay too?i mean if your attracted to men no matter how feminine who identify as men thats the definition of homosexual.you attracted to members of the same sex.they just happen to be pretty lol.
also being a transsexual female doesnt necessarily means vaginoplasty.

[toopretty]

if they identify as gay and dont see themselves as woman wouldnt thank make you gay too?i mean if your attracted to men no matter how feminine who identify as men thats the definition of homosexual.you attracted to members of the same sex.they just happen to be pretty lol.
also being a transsexual female doesnt necessarily means vaginoplasty.

thats where it gets tricky I guess. But the way it is described, is exactly how I feel in my attraction to them. i quote "The male sexual partners of a travesti are not themselves seen as gay, unless they take a passive role in intercourse. Rather, they are seen as "normal" masculine men."

and i wouldn't want a travesti that identifies as male ( as it says not all of them do). I am more interest feminine looking ones that take on "feminine dress, language, and social and sexual roles."

and when you say 'being a transsexual female doesnt necessarily mean vaginoplasty" i agree with you and that would be the type of ts that I want.

[Saffron]

thats where it gets tricky I guess. But the way it is described, is exactly how I feel in my attraction to them. i quote "The male sexual partners of a travesti are not themselves seen as gay, unless they take a passive role in intercourse. Rather, they are seen as "normal" masculine men."

and i wouldn't want a travesti that identifies as male ( as it says not all of them do). I am more interest feminine looking ones that take on "feminine dress, language, and social and sexual roles."

and when you say 'being a transsexual female doesnt necessarily mean vaginoplasty" i agree with you and that would be the type of ts that I want.


I mean are you serious? You're posting on a board called HUNGangels talking about your attraction to gay feminine men. Get real dude you are as queer as Christmas at macys! I'll never be able to comprehend how you men can live in such denial. You don't have my sympathy but you have my prayers. I imagine it's similar to the denial I was in before I transitioned.

[amberskyi]

I mean are you serious? You're posting on a board called HUNGangels talking about your attraction to gay feminine men. Get real dude you are as queer as Christmas at macys! I'll never be able to comprehend how you men can live in such denial. You don't have my sympathy but you have my prayers. I imagine it's similar to the denial I was in before I transitioned.

ouch.that was way harsh.why isnt it possible for people to voice their opinions without being disrespectful??its like intelligent conversation or argument is taboo.
the guy just asked a simple question and shared his perspective about his sexuality.im not saying not to have an opinion but dont be an ass about things.

[SF_Julie]

Put the Labels aside... Be, date, fuck and love whoever you want!!! We only live once, so start picking up dates at Macy's. Seriously, there you'll find fembois, TV's and TS's, Ggs and anything in between!

[rockabilly]

Or try Hot Topic. lol

[Odelay]

Put the Labels aside... Be, date, fuck and love whoever you want!!! We only live once, so start picking up dates at Macy's. Seriously, there you'll find fembois, TV's and TS's, Ggs and anything in between!

Amen! My problem with the OP's idea is that he seems to want an idealized mate, and then he never wants that person to change. How is that love? It would be stifling to have a lover who demanded that you never change, especially in a situation for a fem boi who already straddles the line btwn male and female.

I say stick to porn. An image or video never changes. That fem boi from the magazine is never gonna remove his penis, nor start growing hair all over his body. In fact, he'll always be the same age as when the picture is taken. Problem solved.

[toopretty]

I mean are you serious? You're posting on a board called HUNGangels talking about your attraction to gay feminine men. Get real dude you are as queer as Christmas at macys! I'll never be able to comprehend how you men can live in such denial. You don't have my sympathy but you have my prayers. I imagine it's similar to the denial I was in before I transitioned.

Im not in denial...if anything its obvious that I pretty much know exactly what i want

i want to fuck this

[toopretty]

not this!

[Miss Fagina]

Bare with me as I may ramble on a bit

I have said on here before that I am sexually attracted to very attractive,feminine fem boys (or whatever they are called). But if i was ever to date one I would want him/her to be permanently like that, not someone who goes goes back and forth between "girl" and "boy" mode... I would want total "femboy" mode forever. And my attraction to ts women is singular to a ts that WANTS to be a ts... not a ts that is in the process of becoming a woman by getting srs. I want them to want to keep their penis and use it. I dont really have the desire to be a bottom (and dont consider myself even remotely gay) but If Im in a committed relationship with one and she wants to be the one doing the fucking sometimes, then I will not force her to go elsewhere to do it.
I just read about the "travesti identity" and it more closely resembles my preferences. I used to think "travesti" was just the spanish word for "transsexual" or something like that. But travesti is its own unique identity.

Travesti - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Travesti)

anybody else feel the same way as me?

ladies, what your take on this?

I wouldn't take that wikipedia article to seriously. I have read the research on which it is based. You'll find it here:

Amazon.com: Travesti: Sex, Gender, and Culture among Brazilian Transgendered Prostitutes (Worlds of Desire: The Chicago Series on Sexuality, Gender, and Culture) (9780226461007): Don Kulick: Books@@AMEPARAM@@http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41L0qpdNjbL.@@AMEPARAM@@41L0qpdNjbL (http://www.amazon.com/Travesti-Brazilian-Transgendered-Prostitutes-Sexuality/dp/0226461009/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1292642125&sr=8-1)

Don Kulick is not a native Brazilian.. he's actually a Swede, and among methodological problem he admits to is... he didn't even speak the language! (Spanish? Portuguese? I don't know the difference). He is also a professor of "gender studies" at Stockholm university, and as such might be ideologically biased on seeing both gender identity and sexuality as social constructs. He is further an out gay man.

Whether travestis identify as gay men, or women.. I don't know, but I wouldn't take Don Kulick's word on it. Perhaps someone here knows better.. Travesti should never be translated into transvestite though. The best equivalent to western culture would still be to call them non-op ts, or tg.