My personal Reasoning on not dating TS attracted men

[tsparisangelline]

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[Billy mays here]

I know this is my first post but I had to reply. Don't you think your a but of a hypocrite ?? I don't care if your a t girl , gf or s fucking dude. You have sex for a living, people with your line of work can't really say much on relationships . You want this normal life and a normal "straight " guy but you whore for money . Get real girl , and before you give me your sob story about the "fight" everyone has tough things to over come in their lives as well . But I suppose if we were to think like you I guess we all should start whoring out for rent . Thank you and good night , I look forward to more pleasant conversations :)

[Jericho]

Damn Butters, you got more hang-ups than, erm, someone with a lot of hang-ups! :lol:

[kyoJecours]

lol from what i can see this seems kinda true anyway. will probably piss a few people off... but still true.

[mbf]

People usually attract other people who are mirror images of themselves.

So whenever I hear someone who cries about the fact they only attract losers, well, it turns out the whiners are losers themselves.

[nonnonnon]

Well, I hear what you're saying. I don't actively seek a transwoman but it's on the menu :P

[dderek123]

All of this seems a bit unfortunate.

[CORVETTEDUDE]

Well, what am I to do now....oh, pray tell, what??!!

[Jericho]

People usually attract other people who are mirror images of themselves.

Oooooooo.K.
I'm slapping tickets to Dinos' wedding on ebay....That's going to be...Spectacular! :hide-1:

[dlbi22]

no one wants to date your hooker ass

[dderek123]

Oooooooo.K.
I'm slapping tickets to Dinos' wedding on ebay....That's going to be...Spectacular! :hide-1:
It would be a good idea to wear some rubber boots, and full face mask to the reception.

[Jericho]

no one wants to date your hooker ass

That's not very nice, is it.
Butters has her preferences, if you're not amongst them, move on, no need to be personal!
Simples! :)

[Jericho]

It would be a good idea to wear some rubber boots, and full face mask to the reception.

I'm thinking, full D.C. suit, stanpak of fullers earth and a Geiger counter! :hide-1:

[lisaparadise]

damn butters, you got more hang-ups than, erm, someone with a lot of hang-ups! :lol:whats this butters crap? And get a new freakin avitar that ones pathetic

[Jericho]

Lisa...I know this is the way you roll...You've told us...Often!
How about slapping the wheels back on your trailer and rolling the fuck off of my internet!

For the record, 'Butters' is a bit of an in joke, if Paris was ever offended by that, she need only say so, and she'd never hear it again (from me).

[NYBURBS]

That's not very nice, is it.
Butters has her preferences, if you're not amongst them, move on, no need to be personal!
Simples! :)

lol the Butters reference is priceless!

[Jericho]

Paris, that pic i made was supposed to symbolize an awkward child growing up into a beautiful woman (you are).
If it offended, i apologize.

[rockabilly]

You need to find a transattracted man not in the community. lol

But this must limit your dating options?

Just so i'm clear ... you want a guy who ...
1. Has never seen/been w/ a tgirl
2. Would take you out/ introduce you to family & friends
3. Puerto Rican / Black

That seems like a tall order Paris , no offence intended.

[rockabilly]

Oh and that Butters pic was hilarious. (^_^)

You're "Marjorine". :)

[rockabilly]

Only issue I found is men cannot stand me escorting.

That's understandable , no man want's other men fucking his gf.

[goku]

First of all the transsexual community is fairly small and so when a guy dates transsexuals he normally dates more than one and you NORMALLY know the last girl he dated.
I personally find it awkward to know my partner had sexual relations with a friend of mine or even a friend of mines friend.

This one I can understand. Knowing how small the community is, this is always going to be a problem. However, if a girl turns someone out, you never know what they will do next. I have a friend that thinks like you, however, her guys keep leaving her for other TS even though they had never been with one before. Once they found they liked it, they wanted to explore the scene even further.



Second MOST men who dates transsexuals have a strong attraction to the Male organ. They see us more as a fetish than an actual person.

While this may be true on an elementary scale, it is more complex than that. A lot of guys entered in with that idea, but have evolved over time. For example, I came to HA to look at the pics years ago. Now, I never come to HA for sexual pleasure. I actually log on to see the topics. Everyone grows, and should be judged on a case by case basis.


Third the MAJORITY of men who likes transsexuals (no matter what they say) pay for sex and even though I am an escort I could NEVER find it in my heart to date someone who is a client because EVERY client I have ever met claims the very thought of paying and doing something illegal is half of what turns them on so much. So it is most likely they will pay AGAIN and if the relationship is long lasting it might be during y'alls time together.

I have no idea about being a client, because I have never taken an escort. It would seem like the whole idea of breaking the law is half the rush for those guys. However, I am sure that there are just as many who wouldn't pay for it, if they could get a TS woman on their own.


Fourth, the majority of men who date ts's date more masculine Trans-women but consider themselves straight and I cannot find myself to be with a man who is not OPEN to the fact that he find masculinity attractive.

[QUOTE=tsparisangelline;840315](I would date a bisexual man with no problems but a man who dates very strong looking transsexual women with no breasts is a turn off to me because he is closet case and not open to himself about his OWN sexuality)

Daryl Washington



Fifth, men who date transsexuals are normally weaker minded than men who do not, and they even hold fear of being "caught".
Men who I have not told in the beginning and told later on have not had those hookups because before they knew I was a ts they never had bad reactions from outsiders.


Now I have alot more reasons but I will come to those in time.

This I completely disagree with!

People who openly date transsexual women are STRONGER minded men, and could give a shit about being caught. We long since dealt with the issues, and faced them head on. We go to the movies, out to eat, and walk past the glaring eyes of the masses without so much as a flinch.


My issue is, this seems to be the thinking of quite a few Transwomen. However, why would you wanna "train" your man each and every time, only to have him run off and start fucking all your friends after you "break him in"? This is a question I have posed to a lot of my friends. Wouldn't you rather have a guy who has gotten all the bullshit out of his system, and is ready to settle down? If I was TS, the last thing I would do is date a guy who is new to the scene. That is like bringing a kid to the amusement park, and only expecting him to ride one ride.

[giovanni_hotel]

Can't imagine a GG saying she hates dating men because they're too obsessed with pussy or only want eat and fucc her vagina!!lol
You girls have more hangups than the guys on HA!!!
Another T who's become bitter and cynical from escorting.....shocker.

[rockabilly]

I guess this means Paris and I shall never date. :(

Because i'm confident in what kind of women i like oh and i'm whiter than snow. lol

[Coroner]

I really don´t know why anyone should want to date you, Paris? You´re not in the position to pick too much.

[rockabilly]

She's in Doggy position or Reverse Cowgirl maybe.

[phobun]

Can't imagine a GG saying she hates dating men because they're too obsessed with pussy or only want eat and fucc her vagina!!lol
You girls have more hangups than the guys on HA!!!
Another T who's become bitter and cynical from escorting.....shocker.


No need to attack her because of her honest and candid feelings.
That's another thing... hounds are so insecure they will often attack the girl for not seeing the world with cock-rimmed glasses.

[phobun]

While this may be true on an elementary scale, it is more complex than that. A lot of guys entered in with that idea, but have evolved over time. For example, I came to HA to look at the pics years ago. Now, I never come to HA for sexual pleasure. I actually log on to see the topics. Everyone grows, and should be judged on a case by case basis.


There is a lot truth in this. I agree that this can happen.

[rockabilly]

lmao Cock and Rimmed in the same sentence.

[giovanni_hotel]

Paris is an ESCORT at present. Would it not make sense to assume her world-view on relationships is somewhat 'warped'???

Men OBJECTIFY women, GG and TGs. Get over it. I respect your mind, but I don't wanna fucc it.
And still with that 'hound' garbage, vietboy/phobun/tollroad.

It's not a COCK THING.
It's a TRANNY THING.
Close, but not the same by a long shot.

[Solitary Brother]

I dont think it matters because your a hooker anyways.
No one cares who a hooker dates when she is not working.
(just being real)

[tsdvdman]

Sounds like you hate yourself for being a transexual and since you don't have the mental capacity or swagger to get a "real" man you "trump up" the escort shit to make yourself feel good when in actuality you're just a lonely confused little,,,
If you was nearly as hot and had it goin on like you make yourself out to be you wouldn't be on here bitchin about all the men you don't like, but rather all the other men and so little time. Afterall,,you still gotta hoe right?

[BellaBellucci]

My issue is, this seems to be the thinking of quite a few Transwomen. However, why would you wanna "train" your man each and every time, only to have him run off and start fucking all your friends after you "break him in"? This is a question I have posed to a lot of my friends. Wouldn't you rather have a guy who has gotten all the bullshit out of his system, and is ready to settle down? If I was TS, the last thing I would do is date a guy who is new to the scene. That is like bringing a kid to the amusement park, and only expecting him to ride one ride.


That's a really good point. I haven't thought about that. It kind of changes my perspective a little. Although in my case, and I'm not making a value judgement here, I'm quite different from 98% of other transsexuals and the list of guys I've been with is very small, so there hasn't been a lot of crossover between me and other girls that I know of, but it's definitely something to keep an eye out for.

My last boyfriend didn't sleep around or anything, but he did talk about trans issues more than I did, and it was extremely irritating because they really don't factor into my everyday life. The fact that he was constantly reminding me that I'm TS was only one reason I threw his ass out. Among the many others? 'I've come to terms with my sexuality.'

Sure buddy, suuuuure you have.

~BB~

[giveittou]

Your feelings are your feelings but, it seems odd to me to not be attracted to men who are attracted to you.I mean why would a non ts attracted man be attracted to a ts?It just looks like you are setting yourself up for disappointment and heartache.

[BellaBellucci]

Your feelings are your feelings but, it seems odd to me to not be attracted to men who are attracted to you.I mean why would a non ts attracted man be attracted to a ts?It just looks like you are setting yourself up for disappointment and heartache.

I don't think she means that quite so literally. I think she's referring to guys who date transwomen exclusively (i.e. 'chasers'). In the example of my last boyfriend, he has a history of dating GG's with a lot of issues. One was obese and an alcoholic, one was a pill-popper, and one was bi-polar. Clearly some people just like charity cases and insist that transwomen qualify by default, and in my case, he fucked with the wrong bitch because that is not me.

You'd be surprised how many men chase us because they think the fact that we're complicated emotionally and mentally makes us easy sexually. A lot of guys find it easier to get 'broken' women of all kinds and trans is only one.

~BB~

[phobun]

Paris is an ESCORT at present. Would it not make sense to assume her world-view on relationships is somewhat 'warped'???


Be open minded man. Is it possible that your frustrated lust for cock in a skirt might have warped your perspective? Is it possible though?


And still with that 'hound' garbage, vietboy/phobun/tollroad.


Well, you haven't stopped being a hound, have you? Woof woof.


It's not a COCK THING.
It's a TRANNY THING.
Close, but not the same by a long shot.


In your mind, the epithet "tranny" is synonymous with a "woman with a penis". But tell yourself you're not into penises, just "tranny"s. LOL

[mbf]

If you was nearly as hot and had it goin on like you make yourself out to be you wouldn't be on here bitchin about all the men you don't like, but rather all the other men and so little time. Afterall,,you still gotta hoe right?

We in the industry call this "attention whoring" :party:

Of course, by replying I am helping to fulfill those needs so ....

[alyssaluxor]

just for me i prefer a non TS admirer/chaser than to a TS admirer/chaser

id experience having relationship to both but i dont know why TS admirer/chasers seems to be very troublesome when it comes to relationship compared to non TS admirer/chasers

[phobun]

just for me i prefer a non TS admirer/chaser than to a TS admirer/chaser

id experience having relationship to both but i dont know why TS admirer/chasers seems to be very troublesome when it comes to relationship compared to non TS admirer/chasers


From your perspective, how are chasers more troublesome?

[kyoJecours]

From your perspective, how are chasers more troublesome?

you know what the answer will be!! you must have used up your quota of typing 'cockbandits' for today :)

[alyssaluxor]

ok from my experience dating a non TS admirer/chasers(straight guys):

- he have no hang ups being with me, he is even very proud to show me and introduce me to his friends as his girlfriend
- would usually introduce me to his family and relatives, such a MAN!
- would treat me as a girl in bed, day and night
- he likes genetic girls and femininity

TS admirer/chasers:
- have so many hang ups being with me, would hide me and i feel he feel disgusted seeing with me in public
- would usually make me the MAN in bed lol
- he likes COCK lol
- usually have very loose ass

[phobun]

you know what the answer will be!! you must have used up your quota of typing 'cockbandits' for today :)


Well Bella brought up a good point that transfans are always shoving her medical history in her face. No one needs a self-adulating dude who constantly reminds a girl of what she once was to paint himself as a benevolent knight.

So, I'd like to hear Alyssa's thoughts too...

[phobun]

ok from my experience dating a non TS admirer/chasers(straight guys):

- he have no hang ups being with me, he is even very proud to show me and introduce me to his friends as his girlfriend
- would usually introduce me to his family and relatives, such a MAN!
- would treat me as a girl in bed, day and night
- he likes genetic girls and femininity

TS admirer/chasers:
- have so many hang ups being with me, would hide me and i feel he feel disgusted seeing with me in public
- would usually make me the MAN in bed lol
- he likes COCK lol
- usually have very loose ass


Is there a difference in their appearances? Are transfans or straight guys more likely to be fat and smelly?

[DarylWashington]

First of all the transsexual community is fairly small and so when a guy dates transsexuals he normally dates more than one and you NORMALLY know the last girl he dated.
I personally find it awkward to know my partner had sexual relations with a friend of mine or even a friend of mines friend.


Second MOST men who dates transsexuals have a strong attraction to the Male organ. They see us more as a fetish than an actual person.

Third the MAJORITY of men who likes transsexuals (no matter what they say) pay for sex and even though I am an escort I could NEVER find it in my heart to date someone who is a client because EVERY client I have ever met claims the very thought of paying and doing something illegal is half of what turns them on so much. So it is most likely they will pay AGAIN and if the relationship is long lasting it might be during y'alls time together.

Fourth, the majority of men who date ts's date more masculine Trans-women but consider themselves straight and I cannot find myself to be with a man who is not OPEN to the fact that he find masculinity attractive.

(I would date a bisexual man with no problems but a man who dates very strong looking transsexual women with no breasts is a turn off to me because he is closet case and not open to himself about his OWN sexuality)


Fifth, men who date transsexuals are normally weaker minded than men who do not, and they even hold fear of being "caught".
Men who I have not told in the beginning and told later on have not had those hookups because before they knew I was a ts they never had bad reactions from outsiders.


Now I have alot more reasons but I will come to those in time.

Me and you are made for each other! I love the most feminine as possible trans women, I don't like dicks (just like holes), I love trans women & totally don't see them as a fetish, and I'm 100% open to absolutely EVERYONE, no fear of getting caught here!

[alyssaluxor]

Is there a difference in their appearances? Are transfans or straight guys more likely to be fat and smelly?

lol well actually thats a good question, from my experience most straight guys who dated me are usually more fit. the western(mostly Americans, rarely Europeans) powerbottoms ive met are usually unfit, more on the heavy side and got a certain stink once they open their legs :ignore:

[alyssaluxor]

Me and you are made for each other! I love the most feminine as possible trans women, I don't like dicks (just like holes), I love trans women & totally don't see them as a fetish, and I'm 100% open to absolutely EVERYONE, no fear of getting caught here!

My dream BOYFRIEND/HUSBAND!!!

FUCK me please! :fuckin:

[DarylWashington]

ok from my experience dating a non TS admirer/chasers(straight guys):

- he have no hang ups being with me, he is even very proud to show me and introduce me to his friends as his girlfriend
- would usually introduce me to his family and relatives, such a MAN!
- would treat me as a girl in bed, day and night
- he likes genetic girls and femininity

TS admirer/chasers:
- have so many hang ups being with me, would hide me and i feel he feel disgusted seeing with me in public
- would usually make me the MAN in bed lol
- he likes COCK lol
- usually have very loose ass

Me!!

[DarylWashington]

My dream BOYFRIEND/HUSBAND!!!

FUCK me please! :fuckin:

Yeah fuck hung-up Aria, me + you baby!

[toopretty]

First of all the transsexual community is fairly small and so when a guy dates transsexuals he normally dates more than one and you NORMALLY know the last girl he dated.
I personally find it awkward to know my partner had sexual relations with a friend of mine or even a friend of mines friend.


Second MOST men who dates transsexuals have a strong attraction to the Male organ. They see us more as a fetish than an actual person.

Third the MAJORITY of men who likes transsexuals (no matter what they say) pay for sex and even though I am an escort I could NEVER find it in my heart to date someone who is a client because EVERY client I have ever met claims the very thought of paying and doing something illegal is half of what turns them on so much. So it is most likely they will pay AGAIN and if the relationship is long lasting it might be during y'alls time together.

Fourth, the majority of men who date ts's date more masculine Trans-women but consider themselves straight and I cannot find myself to be with a man who is not OPEN to the fact that he find masculinity attractive.

(I would date a bisexual man with no problems but a man who dates very strong looking transsexual women with no breasts is a turn off to me because he is closet case and not open to himself about his OWN sexuality)


Fifth, men who date transsexuals are normally weaker minded than men who do not, and they even hold fear of being "caught".
Men who I have not told in the beginning and told later on have not had those hookups because before they knew I was a ts they never had bad reactions from outsiders.


Now I have alot more reasons but I will come to those in time.


I agree with everything you said. But althought Im not in it for the cock, I would prefer a cock over a fake pussy. Not to disrespect the girls that have gotten SRS. If I dated a ts with SRS I would only want to fuck her in the ass and looking at a cock on tgirls doesnt gross me out as much as looking a SRS flesh pile.

But other then that, when it comes to ts's and gg's, I only like super tiny and super feminine. Im talking like 5'3, 90 pounds. And little breast dont turn me off either, as long as they are on a tiny little frame...little perky tits are more sexy then big fake tits in alot of ways. I also like tgirls that want to be skinny (i dont just mean skinny as in "rail thin"... i mean really low body fat percentage) and fit compared to the tgirls that want to be curvy and pump silicone... their asses are hard and bumpy and look like they are made out of clay.

Alyssats is an a perfect example of what I find really attractive. shes little, skinny, pretty and girly.

[DarylWashington]

Correct Daryl is a closet case in the making.

Oh hell nah lol I eventually want to marry a full time 100% PASSABLE trans woman!

[Solitary Brother]

I am starting to understand why "transexualism" was considered a mental issue not too long ago in medical circles.

Listen to how you girls sound...do you ever listen to what you say?

There are certain girls who have expressed their disdain for so called "tranny-chasers" and their lust for men who if they found out about there transexualism could possibly get violent with them...even kill them.
It makes no sense to me.

This is why I dont fuck with trannies.

You are basically saying the guys who finance your look and surgeries your clothes,ect....are at the bottom of the food chain.
You basically telling every guy on here they are not as good....they are lessers in your eyes.

The more some of the guys on this board praise certain girls the nastier there attitudes get...this is why I am very stern at times because it is needed.

I am not a lesser than...I refuse to accept that.

Some of you girls are just viscous and nasty....you project all your angst on these guys because they are there and you know they will take it.
Thats wrong.

I guess since society doesnt accept you and abuses you you turn around and abuse these guys.

Thats wrong.....its the hate that hate created.

[toopretty]

Lol, if the SRS is done correct it looks real.

And anal isnt limited to pre-ops btw.

I guess your right...but i have seen some jacked ones. I still have to say..even thought I dont have any desire to bottom...i still prefer a non-op ts

[kyoJecours]

it isn't really that complicated... if a girl knows she's hot she's gonna get bored of guys falling at her feet, drooling over her and telling her how sexy she is. at the end of the day there is a conflict of interests... most girls don't enjoy using their cocks but it is a turn on for most guys who are into tgirls. for example... a lot of girls would fuck a guy in the ass for money but i'd bet they wouldn't do so in their personal lives. the girl would be sort of satisfied since she's getting paid but money can't override emotions so she's gonna feel some resentment. if a girl wants to be seen completely as a woman then paris' opinion is kinda logical.

[BellaBellucci]

You are basically saying the guys who finance your look and surgeries your clothes,ect....are at the bottom of the food chain.
You basically telling every guy on here they are not as good....they are lessers in your eyes.

OK, well I live an average life for the most part. No surgeries. Everyday people, places, and things suit me just fine. I most certainly do not base my self worth on my account balances, the names I could drop, or what I wear.

That said, chasers don't pay for affection, they pay for attention, and they get what they pay for.

~BB~

[DarylWashington]

Lol, if the SRS is done correct it looks real.

And anal isnt limited to pre-ops btw.

Most trans girls who go through SRS say one main reason they get it is so they don't have to do anal anymore!

[nonnonnon]

alyssa and daryl? you're gonna break my heart

[Silcc69]

I am starting to understand why "transexualism" was considered a mental issue not too long ago in medical circles.

Listen to how you girls sound...do you ever listen to what you say?

There are certain girls who have expressed their disdain for so called "tranny-chasers" and their lust for men who if they found out about there transexualism could possibly get violent with them...even kill them.
It makes no sense to me.

This is why I dont fuck with trannies.

You are basically saying the guys who finance your look and surgeries your clothes,ect....are at the bottom of the food chain.
You basically telling every guy on here they are not as good....they are lessers in your eyes.

The more some of the guys on this board praise certain girls the nastier there attitudes get...this is why I am very stern at times because it is needed.

I am not a lesser than...I refuse to accept that.

Some of you girls are just viscous and nasty....you project all your angst on these guys because they are there and you know they will take it.
Thats wrong.

I guess since society doesnt accept you and abuses you you turn around and abuse these guys.

Thats wrong.....its the hate that hate created.

Amen to that SB.

[Coroner]

Darling, if you saw the text messages in my PERSONAL phone and knew me in real life you would understand why I can speak the way I speak and also WHY men have an interest in me.

P.S Very few transsexuals on this board are NOT ESCORTS or PORN STARS but you all have an insane addiction to them do you not?


There is a huge variety within the world of TS admirers. If you refuse to date TS admirers, what makes you think a non-admirer would date a TS, no matter how passable she is? I can understanding where you´re coming from with your complaints and observations: as an escort, you´re able to discover the true world of a part of TS admirers that are primarly after the cock. The only plausable conclusion you can draw is that they will never treat you as a lady or consider a serious relationship. It seems to me like they don´t see a cock attached to a girl but the opposite. You´re a woman and they don´t make you feel that way at all but this is how you make your living.
But there is still another group of TS admirers and I think I belong to that group. We´re interested in the whole package combined with feminity and regarding that, I´m sure we are capable of treating a TS woman the appropriate way. The cock doesn´t mean a thing to me but it awakes attraction when on a female body, for whatever reason. Can you believe that I´ve never had sex with a TS? I have the opportunity but I´m simply not obsessed by transsexuals. I´m very content with my sex life but I wouldn´t refuse to fuck a TS. It´s just not like I gotta have one, yet I´ve been aware of the attraction for many years now. However, that attraction decreased and I´m not sure why, while I´m still crazy for GGs. :lol:

[lisaparadise]

it isn't really that complicated... If a girl knows she's hot she's gonna get bored of guys falling at her feet, drooling over her and telling her how sexy she is. At the end of the day there is a conflict of interests... Most girls don't enjoy using their cocks but it is a turn on for most guys who are into tgirls. For example... A lot of girls would fuck a guy in the ass for money but i'd bet they wouldn't do so in their personal lives. The girl would be sort of satisfied since she's getting paid but money can't override emotions so she's gonna feel some resentment. If a girl wants to be seen completely as a woman then paris' opinion is kinda logical.oh very well put,i still wont put my mrs.wiggly in any guys ass and if my boyfriend asked me he d be out the door period

[BeardedOne]

I couldn't help but rephrase (These are not quotes from the original post but tweaks that sound very familiar to me from other circles) some of that first post to thoughts/events that I've encountered in my life:

First of all the poly community is fairly small and so when a guy dates poly people he normally dates more than one and you NORMALLY know the last girl he dated.

I personally find it awkward to know my partner had sexual relations with a friend of mine or even a friend of mines friend.

Yah, BTDT, but most poly people seem to work through it.

Second MOST men who dates women have a strong attraction to the vagina. They see us more as a fetish than an actual person.

I've heard variations of this from GGs.

While I will never really understand the I-won't-date-anyone-that-might-be-interested-in-my-T thinking, I don't see it as being all that different from the timeless I-love-you-exactly-as-you-are-and-will-love-you-more-when-you-change-into-who-I-really-want-you-to-be school of thought.

It's why I have cats and rarely leave my house.

[NYBURBS]

I couldn't help but rephrase (These are not quotes from the original post but tweaks that sound very familiar to me from other circles) some of that first post to thoughts/events that I've encountered in my life:

First of all the poly community is fairly small and so when a guy dates poly people he normally dates more than one and you NORMALLY know the last girl he dated.

I personally find it awkward to know my partner had sexual relations with a friend of mine or even a friend of mines friend.

Yah, BTDT, but most poly people seem to work through it.

Second MOST men who dates women have a strong attraction to the vagina. They see us more as a fetish than an actual person.

I've heard variations of this from GGs.

While I will never really understand the I-won't-date-anyone-that-might-be-interested-in-my-T thinking, I don't see it as being all that different from the timeless I-love-you-exactly-as-you-are-and-will-love-you-more-when-you-change-into-who-I-really-want-you-to-be school of thought.

It's why I have cats and rarely leave my house.

Well said sir, well said.

[tsdvdman]

I'll take a caramel, nubian hottie like Hailey on the right any day over a delusional, self-hating, disrespectful, white trash, one dimensional hustling hoe whose only claim to fame is "the client files".

[lisaparadise]

I'll take a caramel, nubian hottie like Hailey on the right any day over a delusional, self-hating, disrespectful, white trash, one dimensional hustling hoe whose only claim to fame is "the client files".if ya got nuttin nice to say about me then dont say nuttin at all lol crazy bitch lol

[FreddieGomez]

I'll take a caramel, nubian hottie like Hailey on the right any day over a delusional, self-hating, disrespectful, white trash, one dimensional hustling hoe whose only claim to fame is "the client files".

the one on the right is sexy...where can i see more?

[tsdvdman]

Yeah she's sexy. Here's a couple more...

[nonnonnon]

I can always say the ts is never happy unless she is the FIRST!


why is that? you're scaring me :hide-1:

[BeardedOne]

Really the "poly" community is small and you normally know the person they dated?

Oh, wait, I'm generalizing and we certainly wouldn't want to be doing that in THIS thread. :lol:

OK, the poly community that I've known personally may have been exceptionally incestuous over the years but many of them were/are friends to some degree or another.

Let's just say that I have been only moderately surprised by some of the 'Mutual Friends' algorithms that I've come across on places like Facebook, some of which stretch a couple of decades back into my relationship history and have several connecting points.

[mikejones]

However, if If I was TS, the last thing I would do is date a guy who is new to the scene. That is like bringing a kid to the amusement park, and only expecting him to ride one ride.



Awesome quote dude!

[sdman]

Parisx you are a trailer trasher hooker. You should be glad any man wants your nasty ass! I can't understand how someone who sells ass for a living as a tranny and has had thousands of cocks in your ass has right to be picky? Most guys would never date a hooker anyway so I would say that you will be alone in the end.

[sdman]

just for me i prefer a non TS admirer/chaser than to a TS admirer/chaser

id experience having relationship to both but i dont know why TS admirer/chasers seems to be very troublesome when it comes to relationship compared to non TS admirer/chasers

If a guy is really a non TS admirer he's going to more than likely be disgusted by TS anyway so there isn't such a thing.

[rockabilly]

A thousand cocks in her ass?

In a row?

[sdman]

A thousand cocks in her ass?

In a row?


I imagine so whos going to take a hooker like serious thats had so many cocks in her ass?

[rockabilly]

If a guy is really a non TS admirer he's going to more than likely be disgusted by TS anyway so there isn't such a thing.

Q - What happens to a non ts admirer / non chaser when he hooks up w/ a tgirl and likes it?

A - He BECOMES a ts amirer / chaser.

Rare is the man who stays w/ his first tgirl , and rarer still is the tgirl that lets him.

[sdman]

Q - What happens to a non ts admirer / non chaser when he hooks up w/ a tgirl and likes it?

A - He BECOMES a ts amirer / chaser.

Rare is the man who stays w/ his first tgirl , and rarer still is the tgirl that lets him.


You just won the grand prize rockabilly. These girls are only fooling themselves talking about all this non ts admirer crap in here. Guys either like TS or they dont there not going to change them.

[giovanni_hotel]

Phobun/vietboy/tollroad, the reason I find you to be the consummate asshole is because you randomly call out people for the fucc of it, with NOTHING to back it up.
Now you be good boy and do a forensic search of HA, but do I have ONE post where I obsess over a girl's cock, mention my 'lust' - your word - for TS cock, etc., or demonstrate an unusual preoccupation over what's between a girl's legs??
How did I become a 'hound'??

And everyone knows how deep in the closet you are for TS cock, phobun/vietboy/tollroad, as demonstrated by your reflexive disgust and aversion to preops and the guys that love them.
Come out the closet, phobun/vietboy/tollroad. The sun is bright and the air is clean.

About this thread, not to speak for everyone, but here's the dilemma as I see it.
This board caters to transgendered women in the adult entertainment/services industry and their admirers. Fine. All good.

A handful of the girls on HA are 'well-adjusted' with themselves, whether preop or postop, and take the admirer phenomenon all in stride. Some admirers are scummy. Some aren't. There are general tendencies, but all are still different and unique human beings who reach their level of 'trans-attractedness' at different endpoints.

One thing I've learned since posting on HA is that it serves no purpose or advances understanding to judge another person's sexuality (with a big exception for Dino!!lol). What I like to do has nothing to do with anyone else, except for myself and the woman I'm with.

But the conflict on this board is that many, MANY girls are not static, and in reality are in a state of aggressive transition. These girls are merely trading off the sexual lust many men have for preop transsexuals to pay for additional surgeries to advance their transitions.

These girls tolerate their genitalia and hate it at the same time. Their penis is a part of them, but not 'them', i.e., an essential component of who they are.
It's not so different from being turned on by a GG who hates a certain part of her body that you find ideal.
That's where the bitterness comes from, IMO,with girls like Paris. Working as an escort, she sees herself as being desirable to clients/SOs mainly because of her genitalia, not in spite of/including her cock.

The first time I saw a pic of Paris, I saw a cute, hott chick, that's all. I've never seen her penis and initially thought she was postop.

No guy owes anyone an apology for being 'into' preop Ts. If a girl has had a bad experience with a client or in a relationship, I can sympathize, but that's not me.
But I think all admirers need to realize that a majority of preop Ts IMO generally resent their genitalia, and harbor a secret disgust for those who don't.
If there was a magic pussy fairy granting ultimate wishes on HA, there would be no HA.

As for phobun/vietboy/tollroad, if you respected Ts as much as you say, the 'whole person' as you suggest, why is it that you resent so much the men who lust after them??

If a man who lusts after preop Ts is worthy of ridicule and insults because they aren't afraid to to touch, stroke, fellate TS cock, aren't you really saying that it's her COCK that you find offensive, because you find a TS with a penis disgusting, therefore you view all preop Tgirls with disgust?
Could it be that you're projecting your disgust for Ts onto the men that love them, instead of the real object of your rage??
Or is it your own closeted, deep-throated cockbanditry that makes you sick to see your own face in the mirror, or any other man who gets turned on by chicks with dicks??

You are a pathetic human being, sir.

[lisaparadise]

lol, as I said before my personal phone is full of "I miss you", "I want you back" blah blah blah blah blah

from men who "just found out tea"



FAIL



lol, actually I charge 400 to top me dear, so it is a rare occasion anyone actually "has their cock in my ass"



Actually it is not very rare and when your post-op, well that is another story especially if you NEVER tell tea.whats tea stand for?

[rockabilly]

Damn pussy fairy betta not fuck wit HA ... It's ok for the fairy to have a wand but not a girl?

Dats messed up yo!

[Teydyn]

tea -> T -> T girl. Just a guess.

Paris, you are a Hooker. You are young. And on top of that you are transsexual. All 3 things make life complicated. Your life shows you the bad sides of men and that makes you bitter. No big surprise there.

Maybe you will be lucky and realize that before its too late. Might even take you less then 10 years...

[nonnonnon]

You should tell a man, imo. You're still pretty, though. no hate

[amberskyi]

i just love how the guys call the girls a hooker like its the worst possible thing ever

[fred41]

i just love how the guys call the girls a hooker like its the worst possible thing ever

LOL...well when a dog gets bitten it bites back......







(Don't have a problem with escorts myself...just passing through , saw the post...figured I'd take a shot at answering it)

[rockabilly]

It's right between priest and politician. lol

(same as fred no issues w/ escorts at all)

[BellaBellucci]

i just love how the guys call the girls a hooker like its the worst possible thing ever

:Bowdown::Bowdown::Bowdown::Bowdown::Bowdown:

~BB~

[runround04]

Each reason makes a degree of sense, but at the same time, if "Bob" is attracted to transwomen, and your a transwomen, then why hate "Bob" for being attracted to what you are? Not very fair to you or Bob. IMO

oh well, Im not Bob or you, so.... hahaha

[Jericho]

ok from my experience dating a non TS admirer/chasers(straight guys):

- he have no hang ups being with me, he is even very proud to show me and introduce me to his friends as his girlfriend
- would usually introduce me to his family and relatives, such a MAN!
- would treat me as a girl in bed, day and night
- he likes genetic girls and femininity

TS admirer/chasers:
- have so many hang ups being with me, would hide me and i feel he feel disgusted seeing with me in public
- would usually make me the MAN in bed lol
- he likes COCK lol
- usually have very loose ass


- he likes COCK lol


I tick one of your check boxes, fancy a fuck? :hide-1:

[giovanni_hotel]

WHen you generalize about all trans-attracted men, yes, you are bitter.

[runround04]

Oh so saying all black people steal makes me bitter, and all white people smell like bologna makes me bitter, and all spicks mow lawns makes me bitter.

Wow didn't know I was so bitter :(

We smell like bologna? Damn it, nobody ever told me before....

[rockabilly]

"White people smell like lemon furniture polish."

[lisaparadise]

We smell like bologna? Damn it, nobody ever told me before....roflmfao,blondie your priceless lol

[AlwaysAda]

"White people smell like lemon furniture polish."

what white people you been sniffin'?

[JoePitt]

Actually it is not very rare and when your post-op, well that is another story especially if you NEVER tell tea.

That's actually a really bad idea. One, you'll have to lie to your partner about not being able to have kids. Then you'll have to lie to him about why you never talk about your past or why you don't have any pictures from your childhood and/or teens. Or your family. Finally, you'll have to lie about why you've had various operations or procedures done, not to mention how you paid for them.

No long lasting relationship can survive the sheer numbers of lies you'd have feed your spouse. Either he'll figure it out himself, someone will tip him off or you'll have to come clean. Honesty is the best policy.

[rockabilly]

Paris you're white too so beauty fades but bologna is to the bone.

:p :wiggle:

[giovanni_hotel]

Bitter, cynical, pessimistic, resentful......however you want to say it. Paris. IMO you have a belief system formed from personal negative experiences that stem from escorting.

[rockabilly]

what white people you been sniffin'?

That's a quote by Uncle Ruckus on the Boondocks.

[Jericho]

Bitter, cynical, pessimistic, resentful......however you want to say it. Paris. IMO you have a belief system formed from personal negative experiences that stem from escorting.

But, on the upside you've got a great arse! :shrug

[DarylWashington]

White people smell like bad breath saliva spat on a hot over top!

[lisaparadise]

White people smell like bad breath saliva spat on a hot over top!dude speak english lol

[kyoJecours]

But, on the upside you've got a great arse! :shrug

lol :)

[Solitary Brother]

i just love how the guys call the girls a hooker like its the worst possible thing ever

I think most men would not be trying to seriously date escorts(hookers).
It sad when a guy would even care what she thinks about anything.
Most people in society dont but some of the men on this board do.
Thats sad.
Go get a woman someone with self esteem and class....yes you can be a classy hooker but what is that?
These guys on this board are too thirsty to even care what kind if issues some of these hookers bring with them such as HIV.
Thats why these guys get treated like garbage....no not even as good as garbage and its sad and its THEIR fault.

[rockabilly]

But, on the upside you've got a great arse! :shrug

That smells of hot bologna and lube after a hard :fuckin:

[FreddieGomez]

I think most men would not be trying to seriously date escorts(hookers).
It sad when a guy would even care what she thinks about anything.
Most people in society dont but some of the men on this board do.
Thats sad.
Go get a woman someone with self esteem and class....yes you can be a classy hooker but what is that?
These guys on this board are too thirsty to even care what kind if issues some of these hookers bring with them such as HIV.
Thats why these guys get treated like garbage....no not even as good as garbage and its sad and its THEIR fault.

i've been stayin away from this but i have to say i
co-sign

[rockabilly]

He's saying you're thirsty Freddie.

[rockabilly]

lol Paris you're a riot. :lol:

[FreddieGomez]

He's saying you're thirsty Freddie.

i'm not thirsty, never that...i'm not that one payin for ass.....

[runround04]

[QUOTE=tsparisangelline;840909]Just tell black person they all have nappy hair and it WILL come up i promise.





Gonna try it at work tomorrow:dancing:

[rockabilly]

i'm not thirsty, never that...i'm not that one payin for ass.....

Me neither bro , I got game.

[goku]

Darling I have only had one guy out of the dozens who I have dated that has ever "gotten into" transsexuals.
Most guys I date still laugh at trannys and how foolish they look. They are attracted to the look of a female which VERY FEW ts's have.

It does not matter if you come for pleasure or not your sexual attention is on something in time I would prefer to no longer have.





In a few months after your girlfriend really comprehends the hustle of escorting you will understand.



:dancing:



First and foremost, the girl you are talking about is NOT escorting. She is going to college like she should be. I have never dated a girl who sells her body, and never would.

I love all yall, but some of this shit is laughable!


Escorting worsens your opinion about men, considering the majority of those guys are sneaking to you to get a dick up their ass. So here is Paris, a girl who doesn't wanna acknowledge her dick, and she has to shove it up some guy's asshole to get where she wants to be in life.

So you look at the rest of us assuming we want you to bend us over too, or we are all out spending our hard earned cash on escorts ourselves. Well that simply is just not true. Some of us refuse to spend a dollar on a girl, and it's not because we are cheap, but because we want the experience to be genuine, and the girl to be into it.

[amberskyi]

I think most men would not be trying to seriously date escorts(hookers).
It sad when a guy would even care what she thinks about anything.
Most people in society dont but some of the men on this board do.
Thats sad.
Go get a woman someone with self esteem and class....yes you can be a classy hooker but what is that?
These guys on this board are too thirsty to even care what kind if issues some of these hookers bring with them such as HIV.
Thats why these guys get treated like garbage....no not even as good as garbage and its sad and its THEIR fault.

and what niggas cant have hiv too??lmao.i dont have statistics or anything but im betting escorts get sti's and hiv alot less than the general public.we are very aware of whats out there and the very real possibilities.
i think its utterly retarded to come to a board thats geared towards transsexual erotica/the sex industry and have issues with escorts.if you want girls that dont escort go to a different website.
i dont think that my my sense of self and who i am as person has anything to do with whether or not i escort.if you respect yourself and the people around you that translates no matter what a persons profession or way of life.
also what im failing to understand is why are you guys jumping down this girls neck just because she rather not deal with trans attracted men.THATS HER PREFERENCE.the same way youd prefer a girl who doesnt escort.i dnt agree with her completely but she stated some valid points.

[TSMichelleAustin]

Well, I have to say being 30 now I have a lot of experience in this situation. I transitioned at 22, so I have delt with the tranny chasers and the guys who dont know. I never let a guy lead on to believe I was a woman, I was always honest for my safety. But I have to say I was in a 2 yr relationship with a first time guy who became a tranny chaser and cheated on me for more! So, FIRST TIME GUYS are not always best. I have dated more dudes into trannies that have respected me and stayed with me. Guys who live in str8 world dont want to show you off, they are scared of what people will say. I dont care how passable you are. My current bf/partner and I have been together for 3yrs now. His last gf was a tranny and we have been together longer than they were. It is all about maturity and where you are in your life.

As for sex... I love who I am, I accept all parts of my body and if my bf wants me to fuck him I do. I love it as much as I love him fucking me. I think being a woman is from within and no organ can change that. I choose not to have SRS because I accept myself and my life the way it is.

There are pros and cons to everything but know this that fantasy str8 guy who you want. Who had no clue u were trans will eventually dump u because he is scared of what people will do when they find out! Trans attracted men will accept you for who you are! Just in my experience.

[goku]

Well, I have to say being 30 now I have a lot of experience in this situation. I transitioned at 22, so I have delt with the tranny chasers and the guys who dont know. I never let a guy lead on to believe I was a woman, I was always honest for my safety. But I have to say I was in a 2 yr relationship with a first time guy who became a tranny chaser and cheated on me for more! So, FIRST TIME GUYS are not always best. I have dated more dudes into trannies that have respected me and stayed with me. Guys who live in str8 world dont want to show you off, they are scared of what people will say. I dont care how passable you are. My current bf/partner and I have been together for 3yrs now. His last gf was a tranny and we have been together longer than they were. It is all about maturity and where you are in your life.

As for sex... I love who I am, I accept all parts of my body and if my bf wants me to fuck him I do. I love it as much as I love him fucking me. I think being a woman is from within and no organ can change that. I choose not to have SRS because I accept myself and my life the way it is.

There are pros and cons to everything but know this that fantasy str8 guy who you want. Who had no clue u were trans will eventually dump u because he is scared of what people will do when they find out! Trans attracted men will accept you for who you are! Just in my experience.





/ Thread Closed!

[Deja Vu]

I think most men would not be trying to seriously date escorts(hookers).
It sad when a guy would even care what she thinks about anything.
Most people in society dont but some of the men on this board do.
Thats sad.
Go get a woman someone with self esteem and class....yes you can be a classy hooker but what is that?
These guys on this board are too thirsty to even care what kind if issues some of these hookers bring with them such as HIV.
Thats why these guys get treated like garbage....no not even as good as garbage and its sad and its THEIR fault.


i've been stayin away from this but i have to say i
co-sign

co signed.

[arnie666]

To be honest if I was a ladyboy and I had to have cocks shoved up my ass and down my throat ,or fuck mens backsides or have them slobber over my penis for money ,I'd be pretty fucked off. In fact can anyone say bitch anymore than that. it would probably drive me mental. So Iam not going to get all offended and call paris names, as her mind is probably not where it should be.

Depends what culture you live,but as if Iam going to show off my ladyboy girlfriend down the pub, or take her to work social events where you bring a partner. Not only would it be social suicide for me,but I would actually worry for her safety, as people round here just see ladyboys as messed up freaks, and frankly if they found out she escorted they would probably think she had aids and should be shot and they would tell her that to her face .And they would be worse once they had had a few drinks. And because of the job I do, it would become known very quickly what she was and in fact I could end up in the shit at work if it was found she was an escort or had ever escorted.

I think the guys here saying they would date a ladyboy are liars. They are probably trying to get free ass on here,lot of the guys here are black,so see paying for ass as a reflection on them as men, so tell these girls what they want to hear. I think thats worse than some guy paying for sex, with a tranny,at least he isn't a liar or manipulating them. Which means it will poison their ideas about men more. And going by what paris and others have said,the guys here have fucked their chances up anyway, because they are on this website jacking off no doubt to chicks with dicks. Doesn't matter then how manly you act, make out you never would take it in the ass.You lads are fucked.

I just don't think it's realistic to try and find some straight man who knows nothing about your cock and balls in your panties ,,and think he won't react in a violent or hysterical way ,but not only that think he won't just want to fuck you ,if he was certain his mates wouldn't find out, but would want to date you ,and introduce you to his friends, who would also know about you being a transexual and all. It's a good way I think,to end up in accident and emergency or extremely upset, when he doesn't want anything more than secret ass.

[magicmost]

'I see the bad side of men because of my job? No i see the bad side of men because I choose to date those who are not the best men in society.'


um ok, that says it all i think. good choice

[phobun]

You have sex for a living, people with your line of work can't really say much on relationships . You want this normal life and a normal "straight " guy but you whore for money . Get real girl , and before you give me your sob story about the "fight" everyone has tough things to over come in their lives as well . But I suppose if we were to think like you I guess we all should start whoring out for rent .


no one wants to date your hooker ass


You girls have more hangups than the guys on HA!!!
Another T who's become bitter and cynical from escorting.....shocker.


I dont think it matters because your a hooker anyways.


I am starting to understand why "transexualism" was considered a mental issue not too long ago in medical circles.


Parisx you are a trailer trasher hooker. You should be glad any man wants your nasty ass! I can't understand how someone who sells ass for a living as a tranny and has had thousands of cocks in your ass has right to be picky? Most guys would never date a hooker anyway so I would say that you will be alone in the end.


I imagine so whos going to take a hooker like serious thats had so many cocks in her ass?


Bitter, cynical, pessimistic, resentful......however you want to say it. Paris. IMO you have a belief system formed from personal negative experiences that stem from escorting.


So here is Paris, a girl who doesn't wanna acknowledge her dick, and she has to shove it up some guy's asshole to get where she wants to be in life.



The hatred and bitterness on this thread is unbelievable but is coming from one direction: that of the transfans. A girl writes her honest thoughts and these guys take it as a personal affront and go into attack mode, get personal, spew their venom and bile with ad hominem.

What a bunch of sorry fucks.

[goku]

To be honest if I was a ladyboy and I had to have cocks shoved up my ass and down my throat ,or fuck mens backsides or have them slobber over my penis for money ,I'd be pretty fucked off. In fact can anyone say bitch anymore than that. it would probably drive me mental. So Iam not going to get all offended and call paris names, as her mind is probably not where it should be.

Depends what culture you live,but as if Iam going to show off my ladyboy girlfriend down the pub, or take her to work social events where you bring a partner. Not only would it be social suicide for me,but I would actually worry for her safety, as people round here just see ladyboys as messed up freaks, and frankly if they found out she escorted they would probably think she had aids and should be shot and they would tell her that to her face .And they would be worse once they had had a few drinks. And because of the job I do, it would become known very quickly what she was and in fact I could end up in the shit at work if it was found she was an escort or had ever escorted.

I think the guys here saying they would date a ladyboy are liars. They are probably trying to get free ass on here,lot of the guys here are black,so see paying for ass as a reflection on them as men, so tell these girls what they want to hear. I think thats worse than some guy paying for sex, with a tranny,at least he isn't a liar or manipulating them. Which means it will poison their ideas about men more. And going by what paris and others have said,the guys here have fucked their chances up anyway, because they are on this website jacking off no doubt to chicks with dicks. Doesn't matter then how manly you act, make out you never would take it in the ass.You lads are fucked.

I just don't think it's realistic to try and find some straight man who knows nothing about your cock and balls in your panties ,,and think he won't react in a violent or hysterical way ,but not only that think he won't just want to fuck you ,if he was certain his mates wouldn't find out, but would want to date you ,and introduce you to his friends, who would also know about you being a transexual and all. It's a good way I think,to end up in accident and emergency or extremely upset, when he doesn't want anything more than secret ass.



I can honestly say that this is not true.


Some of us actually do openly date TS girls. I know it is hard to believe, but we do. I conduct everything you see here right out in the open in my real life also. When I saw TS Michelle out here in Austin, I stopped her and introduced myseld first as Goku, and then told her my real name. She now can get in contact with me whenever she wants, and is even on my FB page.

Bridget and I also hang all the time. We have been to each others' houses, go out to eat, and genuinely just enjoy each others' company.

While I argue from time to time with Paris, if I saw her out, I would chop it up with her too. Deep down inside, she is a good girl. I don't agree with the ideology some of these girls have, but I do understand how they come to their conclusions. If there is anything I want any TS here to take away from this thread it's this.......


Judge each person by his/her own merits. There are some people who truly are good people, and honestly have good intentions at heart. Don't allow your blinders to miss something wonderful simply because it came to you in a way that is unorthodox.

[alyssaluxor]

I agree with everything you said. But althought Im not in it for the cock, I would prefer a cock over a fake pussy. Not to disrespect the girls that have gotten SRS. If I dated a ts with SRS I would only want to fuck her in the ass and looking at a cock on tgirls doesnt gross me out as much as looking a SRS flesh pile.

But other then that, when it comes to ts's and gg's, I only like super tiny and super feminine. Im talking like 5'3, 90 pounds. And little breast dont turn me off either, as long as they are on a tiny little frame...little perky tits are more sexy then big fake tits in alot of ways. I also like tgirls that want to be skinny (i dont just mean skinny as in "rail thin"... i mean really low body fat percentage) and fit compared to the tgirls that want to be curvy and pump silicone... their asses are hard and bumpy and look like they are made out of clay.

Alyssats is an a perfect example of what I find really attractive. shes little, skinny, pretty and girly.

owww youre such a sweetie im scared to fall oin love lol ;)


alyssa and daryl? you're gonna break my heart

why my dear? you like Daryl also?




it isn't really that complicated... if a girl knows she's hot she's gonna get bored of guys falling at her feet, drooling over her and telling her how sexy she is. at the end of the day there is a conflict of interests... most girls don't enjoy using their cocks but it is a turn on for most guys who are into tgirls. for example... a lot of girls would fuck a guy in the ass for money but i'd bet they wouldn't do so in their personal lives. the girl would be sort of satisfied since she's getting paid but money can't override emotions so she's gonna feel some resentment. if a girl wants to be seen completely as a woman then paris' opinion is kinda logical.

very good points!!!



If a guy is really a non TS admirer he's going to more than likely be disgusted by TS anyway so there isn't such a thing.

true thats a FAIL lol
you completely dont know what youre talking about, i had sex with a lot of non TS admirer/chasers and also dated a lot of them. they are not really into TS girls but if youre pretty and passable its great for them. they see me as a WOMAN 100% ;)

try to be a passable and pretty and sexy TS girl even just for a day and youll find out what im talking about :party:

[yosi]

men who date transsexuals are normally weaker minded than men who do not


in simple words : you don't want to join a club that is willing to accept you as a member..........:peanutbutter

[Nikka]

who wants to marry me?

[dderek123]

The hatred and bitterness on this thread is unbelievable but is coming from one direction: that of the transfans. A girl writes her honest thoughts and these guys take it as a personal affront and go into attack mode, get personal, spew their venom and bile with ad hominem.

What a bunch of sorry fucks.

Right selfous you are.

[dderek123]

http://i54.tinypic.com/1zqpk47.jpg

It is funny, several ts's have cosigned it on two other forums i am on.
Even several men.

It's unfortunate that you don't want to date the individuals who want to be with you. It's nobody's fault, it's just how it is.

I remember months ago you posted that you planned to do the full transition eventually and you wanted to live your life as a woman anyways. So it makes sense that you don't want to get involved with trans-attracted guys. This way you can save up all your lovin' for the lucky guy you meet after your transition is complete.

Your preferences for not wanting to mess with tricks in your personal life is understandable. But there are some guys who are into TS who aren't in the scene or chasing after escorts. Being a trans-attracted male its actually really hard to find a perfect match as well.

PS I love that picture!

[Admiral]

I'd like to think I'm more proscuitto, the other, other white meat, than bologna.

Props to Paris for being honest, no harm there. What's troubling is that her POV seems to be prevalent among attractive TS's, and it's nonsensical to a straight male.

As others have noted, you're not attracted to exactly the kind of guys who are attracted to you. GGs have no trouble with guys who like them for their boobs or legs or hair color, they play those things up. [Guys have no trouble being liked by anything with tits.]

For myself, and I think others, being the proprietor of a penis makes it difficult for me to see why you'd be willing to consider losing it via a dangerous operation. I don't get the idea of hating it and I don't get the idea that not having it makes you any more of a woman.

I went out on a date (a real date, not an escort) with a Tgirl once, she liked me and we ended up in bed. She swore she couldn't come, but I got her off [with my hand, pervs], pretty quickly, and she seemed surprised that she could do it. I loved her body the way it was, but she took a little trip to Thailand a few months later, and that was that.

Two other times, I met girls who had posted personal ads on the Internet. Both of them, like Paris, said they weren't interested in guys who were interested in Trannies. I asked the first one why she would place an ad in that case, and she said "just to see what's out there." That one eventually went post-op, the other didn't but has a girlfriend now of the GG sort.

After that, I decided it wasn't really worth the effort, though I'd like to be proved wrong.

I don't do the escort thing, not because of the money and not because there's a stigma, but mainly because of disease. I don't like condoms. I wouldn't have any trouble with dating somebody who had been an escort, it'd be kind of a turn-on, but mainly because of the disease question, I don't think I'd be comfortable with somebody actively in that business.

[Ryz]

I can honestly say that this is not true.


Some of us actually do openly date TS girls. I know it is hard to believe, but we do. I conduct everything you see here right out in the open in my real life also. When I saw TS Michelle out here in Austin, I stopped her and introduced myseld first as Goku, and then told her my real name. She now can get in contact with me whenever she wants, and is even on my FB page.

Bridget and I also hang all the time. We have been to each others' houses, go out to eat, and genuinely just enjoy each others' company.

While I argue from time to time with Paris, if I saw her out, I would chop it up with her too. Deep down inside, she is a good girl. I don't agree with the ideology some of these girls have, but I do understand how they come to their conclusions. If there is anything I want any TS here to take away from this thread it's this.......


Judge each person by his/her own merits. There are some people who truly are good people, and honestly have good intentions at heart. Don't allow your blinders to miss something wonderful simply because it came to you in a way that is unorthodox.

Yeah I don't know what this dude is talking about. I was in a relationship with a TS at 18 for 10 months....

[Admiral]

Oh, btw, Paris is the kind of girl I like, visually speaking

[FreddieGomez]

i dig amberskyi because she seem like a real hood chick

[nonnonnon]

why my dear? you like Daryl also


she's got jokes :cheers:

[amberskyi]

i dig amberskyi because she seem like a real hood chick

im not really all that hood.i was just raised there lol

[SunshyneMonroe]

goko where did u say u work again?

[TSMichelleAustin]

http://hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?p=837083#post837083


So getting SRS means you do not accept yourself?

hmmm..



Never said that hun, I said SRS isnt for me... I have come to terms with my life the way it is. That is different for each girl. I support any girl wanting the change or not. I personally accept life as it is. And I understand what you are saying on the OP, I am not knocking anything you have said because u and a lot of girls feel the same way and have valued points. I am just going off my past.

[TSMichelleAustin]

Oh ok, thank you for understanding my points without criticism and also understanding that ALOT of girls feels the same way, lol.

Yes ma'am... we all have our views because we all live different lives. My experience with men has been different than urs. We all have our views and interest. You just put urs out there so people can understand.

I hate people saying cuz you escort u have no room to talk about things. You still have a heart and know when u find love! Nothing to do with your work! But also later in life your opinion on guys might change but that also would be determined with ur sex change or not too. So, I think its great u put ur opinion on this out there, and I dont think its attention seeking, its just stating ur view!

[DarylWashington]

Escorts are scum of the Earth, except for Paris Angelline & Britney Boykins!

[nonnonnon]

and sunshyne :geek:

[DarylWashington]

and sunshyne :geek:

Sunshyne is lower than scum :)

[yodajazz]

Sunshyne is lower than scum :)

Here's something I have learned. Even the lowest of people, can still learn to be better people. Once they do, the people who put them down are left looking like fools. The ones wo encouraged them, are left looking good, and they also end up feeling better about themselves. Some will fail, even after they have been encouraged, but the ones that do will make up for the ones that dont. It's your world. So make our world better by lifting up those here that need it.

[Deja Vu]

http://hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?p=837083#post837083

No more ass for you


thought dat get ur attention

[pretty_boi_rico]

i feel paris on dis cus alotta people who date trannies cant really be committed anyway bcus 9 times outta ten dey are confused bout dere sexuality and cant be dedicated

[lisaparadise]

i feel paris on dis cus alotta people who date trannies cant really be committed anyway bcus 9 times outta ten dey are confused bout dere sexuality and cant be dedicatedand you fuckers whine about my spelling?fuck outta here lol

[GrimFusion]

and you fuckers whine about my spelling?fuck outta here lol

ha ha ha... that's classic. I think the dude was doing it on purpose because he sure as hell didn't have any problem correctly spelling 'dedicated' or 'commitment'. An internet persona is some sad shit. I sure hope the guy doesn't have some kind of split personality disorder.

[amberskyi]

i feel paris on dis cus alotta people who date trannies cant really be committed anyway bcus 9 times outta ten dey are confused bout dere sexuality and cant be dedicated

just because YOU are confused doesnt mean that everyone else is.i have been in two realtionships.one that lasted for two years and the other lasted for a year (but were still friends).what i need to realize that for all the analysis in the world dating is never easy.it doesnt matter if it a transsexual relationship,a "straight" one,or a gay one.in order for them to work it takes alot of effort.and a coward is a coward no matter who or what he's dating.

[GrimFusion]

just because YOU are confused doesnt mean that everyone else is.i have been in two realtionships.one that lasted for two years and the other lasted for a year (but were still friends).what i need to realize that for all the analysis in the world dating is never easy.it doesnt matter if it a transsexual relationship,a "straight" one,or a gay one.in order for them to work it takes alot of effort.and a coward is a coward no matter who or what he's dating.

Agreed!
@pretty_boi_rico: I'd add that there's no excuse for laying pipe elsewhere. If you find yourself sexually incompatible or bored with your other, have the decency to discuss it and/or break the hell up before your dousing rod ends up finding another wet hole. Don't blame it on confusion, inebriation, ill-communication, or incompatibility. It's god damn sad that people can't grow a pair and at least be honest.

[blckhaze]

why get mad?
Would you REALLY wanna date this pale hoe?


HI CASPER!!!! :)

[IMISSHER]

I know this is my first post but I had to reply. Don't you think your a but of a hypocrite ?? I don't care if your a t girl , gf or s fucking dude. You have sex for a living, people with your line of work can't really say much on relationships . You want this normal life and a normal "straight " guy but you whore for money . Get real girl , and before you give me your sob story about the "fight" everyone has tough things to over come in their lives as well . But I suppose if we were to think like you I guess we all should start whoring out for rent . Thank you and good night , I look forward to more pleasant conversations :)
well said dude. i will never understand the logic of working girls giving info on what works and what doesnt in relationships. it baffles me that on this board so many equate prostitution connected to regular relationships. they are so far apart. im in love and with a t/g who is not a whore in any sense of the word. our relationship works fine im attracted to her and vice a versa. if there was even a hint of whoring by her i would be gone in a flash. there is no connection between the 2. none. t/g is a person worthy of love and normal relationships as any other gg. thats all there is, no more. thanks.

[lisaparadise]

well said dude. i will never understand the logic of working girls giving info on what works and what doesnt in relationships. it baffles me that on this board so many equate prostitution connected to regular relationships. they are so far apart. im in love and with a t/g who is not a whore in any sense of the word. our relationship works fine im attracted to her and vice a versa. if there was even a hint of whoring by her i would be gone in a flash. there is no connection between the 2. none. t/g is a person worthy of love and normal relationships as any other gg. thats all there is, no more. thanks.calling us a hoe isnt very nice we make a living just as you guys do.why the bitterness?assholes like you could never get a beautifull tgirl working or not my man wouldnt ever call me a hoe because hes respectfull i suspect assholes who talk like that dont deserve anything in life period.

[phobun]

calling us a hoe isnt very nice we make a living just as you guys do.why the bitterness?assholes like you could never get a beautifull tgirl working or not my man wouldnt ever call me a hoe because hes respectfull i suspect assholes who talk like that dont deserve anything in life period.


I have found the irony is that most of the guys here are, or aspire to be, male hoes of the highest order. At least the girls are left with cash at the end of the short relationships, whereas the mansluts get fucked as much any working girl but without any love or money to show for it.

Who's playin' who?

[DL_NL]

Well, thanks for letting everyone here know you won't date them. You look great but I wouldn't date you either. In fact getting a date isn't the reason why I'm here (never mind that it's a dumb idea to try and find a date 6000+ miles away).

As for your motives- lots of blanket statements there. You have a rather black and white perception of people. Maybe escorting does that to you.

[IMISSHER]

calling us a hoe isnt very nice we make a living just as you guys do.why the bitterness?assholes like you could never get a beautifull tgirl working or not my man wouldnt ever call me a hoe because hes respectfull i suspect assholes who talk like that dont deserve anything in life period.
whore, escort, prostititue whatever. the job is sex for money.. if u read the post i am involved in a relationship with a t/g for a long time. why would u be offended to be called a whore, i did not use the word hoe. if thats your job hence the word. dont u think the ultimate act of dispespect is when your man feels your line of work is ok and at the same time express love for you. im in love with her, why would i ever want her to continue to be a whore.please explain that to me.

[kyoJecours]

whore, escort, prostititue whatever. the job is sex for money.. if u read the post i am involved in a relationship with a t/g for a long time. why would u be offended to be called a whore, i did not use the word hoe. if thats your job hence the word. dont u think the ultimate act of dispespect is when your man feels your line of work is ok and at the same time express love for you. im in love with her, why would i ever want her to continue to be a whore.please explain that to me.

you can't be that content with your girl if you need to get bitter on an internet forum. it's funny when people try and turn on others but end up looking more twisted themselves :p

[Jackal]

I am a trans-attracted man but I respect your preferences and you for this reasoning/choice. I just ask for reciprocity in that regard. And we're not all alike either, even if we're guys who like TS women and/or watching ts porn.

[Saffron]

First of all the transsexual community is fairly small and so when a guy dates transsexuals he normally dates more than one and you NORMALLY know the last girl he dated.
I personally find it awkward to know my partner had sexual relations with a friend of mine or even a friend of mines friend.


Second MOST men who dates transsexuals have a strong attraction to the Male organ. They see us more as a fetish than an actual person.

Third the MAJORITY of men who likes transsexuals (no matter what they say) pay for sex and even though I am an escort I could NEVER find it in my heart to date someone who is a client because EVERY client I have ever met claims the very thought of paying and doing something illegal is half of what turns them on so much. So it is most likely they will pay AGAIN and if the relationship is long lasting it might be during y'alls time together.

Fourth, the majority of men who date ts's date more masculine Trans-women but consider themselves straight and I cannot find myself to be with a man who is not OPEN to the fact that he find masculinity attractive.

(I would date a bisexual man with no problems but a man who dates very strong looking transsexual women with no breasts is a turn off to me because he is closet case and not open to himself about his OWN sexuality)


Fifth, men who date transsexuals are normally weaker minded than men who do not, and they even hold fear of being "caught".
Men who I have not told in the beginning and told later on have not had those hookups because before they knew I was a ts they never had bad reactions from outsiders.


Now I have alot more reasons but I will come to those in time.
:iagree::iagree::iagree:

[a994]

it isn't really that complicated... if a girl knows she's hot she's gonna get bored of guys falling at her feet, drooling over her and telling her how sexy she is. at the end of the day there is a conflict of interests... most girls don't enjoy using their cocks but it is a turn on for most guys who are into tgirls. for example... a lot of girls would fuck a guy in the ass for money but i'd bet they wouldn't do so in their personal lives. the girl would be sort of satisfied since she's getting paid but money can't override emotions so she's gonna feel some resentment. if a girl wants to be seen completely as a woman then paris' opinion is kinda logical.

Kinda like hot-looking g(enetic)-women who know that they are knockouts, get married, and turn out to be super-frigid in the bedroom.

[RubyTS]

im sooooooooo glad i dont have to deal with dating anymore, GOD it's frustrating, the shit we go thru trying to find someone bearable. Aside from physical and emotional necessities, theres still so much going on that make it almost impossible to find a guy without feeling like your settling for less

[a994]

Well, I have to say being 30 now I have a lot of experience in this situation. I transitioned at 22, so I have delt with the tranny chasers and the guys who dont know. I never let a guy lead on to believe I was a woman, I was always honest for my safety. But I have to say I was in a 2 yr relationship with a first time guy who became a tranny chaser and cheated on me for more! So, FIRST TIME GUYS are not always best. I have dated more dudes into trannies that have respected me and stayed with me. Guys who live in str8 world dont want to show you off, they are scared of what people will say. I dont care how passable you are. My current bf/partner and I have been together for 3yrs now. His last gf was a tranny and we have been together longer than they were. It is all about maturity and where you are in your life.

As for sex... I love who I am, I accept all parts of my body and if my bf wants me to fuck him I do. I love it as much as I love him fucking me. I think being a woman is from within and no organ can change that. I choose not to have SRS because I accept myself and my life the way it is.

There are pros and cons to everything but know this that fantasy str8 guy who you want. Who had no clue u were trans will eventually dump u because he is scared of what people will do when they find out! Trans attracted men will accept you for who you are! Just in my experience.


Why does this feel like the voice of sanity and of one who is happy with who she is?:)

Michelle, all I know is I would be The World's Happiest Man if I met a woman (t-woman or g-woman) who feels the same way that you do. I just hope your boyfriend appreciates you and lets you know every day.

[DL_NL]

I guess it all comes down to personal preference...

[russtafa]

i always date t girls

[russtafa]

I've been in a relationship with a beautiful Tgirl for 18 months now...Maddison

[a994]

Here's something I have learned. Even the lowest of people, can still learn to be better people. Once they do, the people who put them down are left looking like fools. The ones wo encouraged them, are left looking good, and they also end up feeling better about themselves. Some will fail, even after they have been encouraged, but the ones that do will make up for the ones that dont. It's your world. So make our world better by lifting up those here that need it.


Words of wisdom, for all of us. Thank you yodajazz.

[rockabilly]

Is this a variation of "I would never be in club that would have me as a member" ?

How about .... " I would never be w/ a guy who would have my member ".

All joking aside it's understandable why you ladies feel the way you do about dating and relationships.

But guys who are trans attracted and decent/nice do exist.

[DL_NL]

The usual '99.4% ruin it for the rest of us'?

[SXFX]

I'm not going to read, oh my god 19 pages, but well...look we men are men.
We are sex addicts. I'm sorry. Get use to it. when I'm with a girl all i have on my mind is pussy and sex. when I'm with another type of girl all i can think of her is her ass and sex.
The only catch is how she was born.
But then again, I also just like going out to coffee or the movies as well.
So just as I can't come out and say girls are money hungry, though most are, it's wrong for me to say that guys are sex addicts, though we mostly are.

[Solitary Brother]

im sooooooooo glad i dont have to deal with dating anymore, GOD it's frustrating, the shit we go thru trying to find someone bearable. Aside from physical and emotional necessities, theres still so much going on that make it almost impossible to find a guy without feeling like your settling for less


How about dating a hooker....how is that for settling for less?

[dolce__vita]

How about dating a hooker....how is that for settling for less?

Or how about a closeted homosexual who uses a pre-op Transsexual as validation for heterosexuality that never existed? That's MUCH better right?

[dolce__vita]

Im mad these men claim to be so diff but yet attacked me because i said i wont fuck with them. Of course u think theyd realize by now if ur not caramel or darker than im not ibterested.

:)

Girl who cares they're all fools and tricks with no money... a waste of human life.

[dolce__vita]

Lol they say the same about the escorts they jack off to lol.

They only criticize escorts because..

1) They can't afford them

2) They want the satisfaction of getting dick/ass for free, so they feel special

[phobun]

How about dating a hooker....how is that for settling for less?

Or how about a closeted homosexual who uses a pre-op Transsexual as validation for heterosexuality that never existed? That's MUCH better right?


Solitary Sister is not really a closeted homosexual considering that he is one of the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence there in San Francisco (http://www.thesisters.org).

[Jackal]

I've seen escorts twice, and, frankly, the fact it was illegal made it scarier(or perhaps, better put, more anxious).

[Jackal]

Is this a variation of "I would never be in club that would have me as a member" ?

How about .... " I would never be w/ a guy who would have my member ".

All joking aside it's understandable why you ladies feel the way you do about dating and relationships.

But guys who are trans attracted and decent/nice do exist.

Agreed but even if it's not understandable, its their choice. Can't really get mad over that....just be the best you can and seek a lady who is interested in you.

[a994]

Agreed but even if it's not understandable, its their choice. Can't really get mad over that....just be the best you can and seek a lady who is interested in you.


Yep. You can never force someone who is not interested in you or who has low regard for you to be with you. She will resist you all the more and you will only waste your time.

As painful as it might be, all you can do is cut your losses and move on.