Wikileaks.org is dead

[african1]

The plug has been pulled on Assange by all of his hosts. In Sweden. By Amazon in the US and finally by OVH in France. Wikileaks.org is dead with or without a proxy.

I am starting to feel for the guy. It seems to me now that Assange is a pioneer in the domain of virtual freedom. People all over the world are following closely this arm-wrestling between an individual and a super power.

I may not agree with Assange's actions but I sympathize with his struggle nonetheless. Last year, Iranian students almost changed their government using the power of tweets. Assange's journey will tell us whether really the Internet is still that powerful tool that levels the grounds and empowers the common man.

p.s. Wikileaks has a new address in a different country now.

[manc_jay]

its here

mirror.wikileaks.info

[african1]

Yup. They moved to Switzerland. We'll see how the gvt there will react to the pressure.

New address is indeed wikileaks.ch

213.251.145.96

[lisaparadise]

The plug has been pulled on Assange by all of his hosts. In Sweden. By Amazon in the US and finally by OVH in France. Wikileaks.org is dead with or without a proxy.

I am starting to feel for the guy. It seems to me now that Assange is a pioneer in the domain of virtual freedom. People all over the world are following closely this arm-wrestling between an individual and a super power.

I may not agree with Assange's actions but I sympathize with his struggle nonetheless. Last year, Iranian students almost changed their government using the power of tweets. Assange's journey will tell us whether really the Internet is still that powerful tool that levels the grounds and empowers the common man.

p.s. Wikileaks has a new address in a different country now.dead

[scroller]

Thanks for the IP address.

[GroobySteven]

It's pointless.
There are mirrors everywhere, numerous people apparantely have all the information and all the main newspapers ALSO have the information.

By causing a fuss and over-reacting, they have made the information seem more important than it actually is, which is quite dull actually. Practically everything said is just what would have been expected.

Qatar: Anti-terror

The Gulf state of Qatar, which has hosted the American military for years, is described as the "worst in the region" for anti-terrorism, according to a state department cable from last December.
The cable, reported in the New York Times, said Qatar's security service was "hesitant to act against known terrorists out of concern for appearing to be aligned with the US and provoking reprisals".


SO WHY ARE THEY ALLOWED TO HOST THE WORLD CUP IN 2022 ???

[GroobySteven]

BTW, I THOUGHT THESE "CLIFF NOTES" MIGHT BE USEFUL FOR SOME ... OH WHAT IS THAT? IS IT A BIRD? IS IT A PLANE? IT'S NOT A DRO.....

Afghanistan: Karzai and corruption

Cables from Karl Eikenberry, the US ambassador to Afghanistan, reveal concern among both US and other foreign dignitaries about the fitness of President Hamid Karzai to govern.
In a July 2009 cable released by the Guardian (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/us-embassy-cables-documents/215470), Mr Eikenberry describes Mr Karzai as "a paranoid and weak individual unfamiliar with the basics of nation-building", and who is "overly self-conscious" that he might be losing favour among the international community.
But he is also considered an "ever-shrewd politician who sees himself as a nationalist hero".
Several Afghan and foreign officials also refer to Mr Karzai as "weak" or losing his influence.
Mr Eikenberry also writes of widespread corruption among Afghan officials, citing examples of large amounts of cash being taken out of the country (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/us-embassy-cables-documents/230265).
In an October 2009 report (http://cablegate.wikileaks.org/cable/2009/10/09KABUL3068.html), he says Mr Karzai's brother, Ahmad Wali Karzai, is "widely understood to be corrupt and a narcotics trafficker" and advises that his requests for funding for large-scale projects "should be viewed with a healthy dose of scepticism".
China: Missiles and hacking

In November 2007, the US urged Beijing to stop the shipment of ballistic missile components from North Korea to Iran, according to a cable released by the Guardian (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/us-embassy-cables-documents/128567).
The goods were being moved through Beijing, and Washington demanded a "substantive response" to their request.
"We assess that the best way to prevent these shipments in the future is for Chinese authorities to take action... that will make the Beijing airport a less hospitable transfer point," the cable states.
China was also cited in another cable, reported in the New York Times, over concern at its alleged growing use of large-scale computer hacking.
The cable claims that a network of hackers and private security experts has been employed by China since 2002 and that it has hacked into US government and business computers, those of Western allies and the Dalai Lama.
The cable quotes a "Chinese contact" telling the US embassy in Beijing that the Chinese government had been behind the hacking of Google's computer systems in the country in January.
Germany: Rendition row

In 2004, a German citizen was snatched in Macedonia and allegedly taken to a secret prison by the CIA. Agents had apparently mistaken him for an al-Qaeda suspect.
A 2007 cable from the US embassy in Berlin (http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2010/11/28/world/20101128-cables-viewer.html#report/cables-07BERLIN242) details the efforts the US made to persuade Germany not to issue international arrest warrants for the CIA agents accused of involvement.
In an account of a high-level meeting between US and German officials, the cables states that US diplomats "pointed out that our intention was not to threaten Germany, but rather to urge that the German government weigh carefully at every step of the way the implications for relations with the US".
Guantanamo Bay

The cables appear to reveal discussions between various countries on whether they would take prisoners released from the Guantanamo Bay detention facility.
Slovenia is offered the chance to meet President Barack Obama if it takes a prisoner, while Kiribati, in the South Pacific, is offered millions of dollars of incentives. Brussels is told taking prisoners could be "a low-cost way for Belgium to attain prominence in Europe".
Other dispatches suggest Beijing was angered by the refusal by the US to send Uighur prisoners from Guantanamo back to China, with their ambassador to Kyrgyzstan calling the move "a slap in the face". Germany and Finland were allegedly warned by China of damage to bilateral relations if they agreed to take in any of the prisoners.
Iran: Nuclear attack calls

Several Arab leaders and their representatives are quoted as urging the US to carry out an attack on Iran to bring an end to its suspected nuclear weapons programme.
In a cable from April 2008 (http://cablegate.wikileaks.org/cable/2008/04/08RIYADH649.html), the Saudi ambassador in Washington, Adel al-Jubeir, recalled King Abdullah's "frequent exhortations" to the US to attack Iran.
Mr al-Jubeir said the king wanted the US "to cut the head off the snake"; the cable also reported that the Saudi foreign minister was less extreme, calling for more severe sanctions on Tehran.
During a meeting between King Hamad bin Isa al-Khalifa of Bahrain and US General David Petraeus, the king told the US to stop Iran's nuclear programme "by whatever means necessary".
"The danger of letting it go on is greater than the danger of stopping it," he is quoted as saying in the cable from ambassador Adam Ereli (http://cablegate.wikileaks.org/cable/2009/11/09MANAMA642.html), dated November 2009.
In a 2006 cable (http://cablegate.wikileaks.org/cable/2006/04/06ABUDHABI1401.html), the crown prince of Abu Dhabi, Sheikh Mohammad bin Zayed, told the US he believed Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad was "going to take us to war".
Meanwhile, Israel's Defence Minister Ehud Barak used a May 2009 visit by a Congressional delegation to Tel Aviv to warn that time was running out to stop Iran's nuclear programme.
"Barak estimated a window between six and 18 months from now in which stopping Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons might still be viable," says a cable sent back to Washington by the US ambassador (http://cablegate.wikileaks.org/cable/2009/06/09TELAVIV1177.html) the following month.
"After that, he said any military solution would result in unacceptable collateral damage."
Koreas: China's relations

Beijing was growing frustrated with North Korea's behaviour, with a Chinese ambassador warning that Pyongyang's nuclear programme was "a threat to the whole world's security" (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/us-embassy-cables-documents/210695).
Many Chinese officials were starting to think that the Korean peninsula should be reunified under Seoul's control, according to South Korean officials.
They added that China was ready to "face the new reality" that North Korea had little value to Beijing as a buffer state.
Chinese Vice Foreign Minister He Yafei allegedly said Pyongyang was behaving like a "spoiled child".
US and South Korean officials have discussed plans for a united Korea, should North Korea collapse.
The US ambassador in Seoul said South Korea would consider offering commercial incentives to China to "help salve" Beijing's "concerns about living with a reunified Korea".
Mexico: Drug war

One cable expresses concern that the Mexican army was failing in its fight against drug cartels, describing the army as "slow and risk averse."
It said troops were not trained to patrol the streets or gather evidence to convict those detained.
However, the Mexican government was praised for its "unprecedented commitment" to take on the drugs gangs.
But the fight is being hampered by widespread "official corruption" and a lack of co-ordination.
According to the cable dated 29 January 2010 (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/us-embassy-cables-documents/246329), the deployment of troops in Ciudad Juarez - a border city at the heart of the drugs war - had failed to reduce violence.
Pakistan: Nuclear fears

US and UK diplomats feared Pakistan's nuclear material could fall into the hands of terrorists, the Guardian reports (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/nov/30/wikileaks-cables-pakistan-nuclear-fears) some of the leaked cables as revealing.
Cables reported in the New York Times (http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/29/world/29cables.html?ref=world) reveal the US has been attempting to remove highly enriched uranium from a research reactor in Pakistan since 2007.
In a May 2009 cable, US ambassador Anne W Patterson says Pakistan had refused a visit from US experts. She quotes Pakistan officials as saying removing the fuel would be seen in Pakistan "as the United States taking Pakistan's nuclear weapons".
Another cable concerning a US intelligence briefing in 2008, reported in the Guardian (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/us-embassy-cables-documents/181529), said Pakistan was "producing nuclear weapons at a faster rate than any other country in the world".
Russian foreign ministry official Yuri Korolev feared that Islamists might infiltrate the ranks of the 120,000-130,000 people directly involved in Pakistan's nuclear and missile programmes.
"There is no way to guarantee that all are 100% loyal and reliable," he told US officials in February, according to the Guardian.
Qatar: Anti-terror

The Gulf state of Qatar, which has hosted the American military for years, is described as the "worst in the region" for anti-terrorism, according to a state department cable from last December.
The cable, reported in the New York Times, said Qatar's security service was "hesitant to act against known terrorists out of concern for appearing to be aligned with the US and provoking reprisals".
Russia: 'Virtual mafia state'

Russia is accused of being a corrupt, autocratic kleptocracy centred on the leadership of Prime Minister Vladimir Putin.
One cable details a briefing for US officials on 13 January 2010 (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/us-embassy-cables-documents/247712), in which a Spanish prosecutor who has specialised on the activities of the Russian mafia in Spain, Jose "Pepe" Grinda Gonzalez, says he considers Belarus, Chechnya and Russia to be virtual "mafia states" and said that Ukraine is going to be one.
In another cable from February 2010 (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/us-embassy-cables-documents/248674), the US ambassador in Moscow John Beyrle details the "shadowy world of corrupt business practices" under former Moscow mayor Yuri Luzhkov, "with corrupt officials requiring bribes from businesses attempting to operate in the city".
"The Moscow city government's direct links to criminality have led some to call it 'dysfunctional', and to assert that the government operates more as a kleptocracy than a government," Mr Beyrle writes.
In another message (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/us-embassy-cables-documents/174440), the UK Foreign Office's Russia director, Michael Davenport, is quoted as calling Russia a "corrupt autocracy".
Mr Putin has denied links to organised crime.
Sri Lanka: 'War crimes'

A cable sent in January 2010 by the US ambassador in Colombo, Patricia Butenis (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/us-embassy-cables-documents/243811), reveals she believed Sri Lanka's President Mahinda Rajapaksa was responsible for alleged war crimes during the final states of the country's civil war.
As the Tamil Tigers rebel movement was defeated, thousands of Tamil civilians are believed to have been killed in the Jaffna peninsula by government forces.
Ms Butenis said one of the reasons why there was so little momentum towards the formation of a Sri Lankan inquiry into the deaths was that the president and the former army commander, Sarath Fonseka, were behind them.
"There are no examples we know of a regime undertaking wholesale investigations of its own troops or senior officials for war crimes while that regime or government remained in power," she wrote.
"In Sri Lanka this is further complicated by the fact that responsibility for many alleged crimes rests with the country's senior civilian and military leadership, including President Rajapaksa and his brothers and opposition candidate General Fonseka," she added.
Gen Fonseka lost to Mr Rajapaksa in January's presidential election, and was subsequently convicted of corruption by a court martial.
Both men have denied that government troops committed war crimes.
UK: Afghan war

US and Afghan officials believed UK forces were "not up to the task of securing Helmand" without US military support, according to a cable published in the Guardian newspaper (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/us-embassy-cables-documents/181930).
Other cables relayed Afghan dissatisfaction with how the British troops were conducting operations in the province. President Karzai reportedly said in 2009 that eight years earlier "even Helmand was safe for girls to go school. Now, 4,000 [sic] British soldiers are in Helmand and the people are not safe" (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/us-embassy-cables-documents/193188).
And the governor of Helmand, Gulab Mangal, told a visiting group of Americans (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/us-embassy-cables-documents/187855), including Vice-President-elect Joseph Biden, that US troops were urgently needed in Sangin as UK troops were seldom leaving their base in the city.
In another cable, US General Dan McNeill, was said to be "particularly dismayed by the British effort" (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/us-embassy-cables-documents/103541) in fighting the drugs trade in Afghanistan.
He is quoted as saying that British forces had "made a mess" of counter-narcotics operations in Helmand by employing the "wrong" tactics.
A deal with the Taliban which allowed British troops to be withdrawn from Musa Qala in 2006, "opened the door to narco-traffickers in that area, and now it was impossible to tell the difference between the traffickers and the insurgents", he added.
UK: Cluster bombs

The UK kept quiet about a loophole allowing the US to continue storing cluster bombs on its territory despite an international ban on the weapons.
A senior Foreign Office official is quoted in a message sent in May 2009 (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/us-embassy-cables-documents/208206?intcmp=239).
Britain was among more than 90 countries which signed the Convention on Cluster Munitions (CCM) in December 2008. The treaty bans the use of cluster bombs and prohibits signatories from assisting other countries to use, stockpile or transfer them.
UK: Royal Family

Prince Andrew, the Duke of York, "spoke cockily", allegedly criticising Britain's Serious Fraud Office probe of an arms deal between BAE and Saudi Arabia at a brunch in the Kyrgyz capital Bishkek, in a 2008 cable from the embassy in Bishkek. (http://cablegate.wikileaks.org/cable/2008/10/08BISHKEK1095.html).
He also criticised journalists, "who poke their noses everywhere", for investigating the deal.
The prince said the UK, along with Western Europe and the US were "back in the thick of playing the Great Game" - a reference to the 19th Century struggle between the British and Russian Empires for control of Central Asia.
"And this time we aim to win," he was quoted as saying.
Another cable quoted a senior Commonwealth official as saying Prince Charles, the heir to the throne, "does not command the same respect as the Queen".
UN: US spying

A cable to US diplomats issued under US Secretary of State Hillary Clinton's name (http://cablegate.wikileaks.org/cable/2009/07/09STATE80163.html) tells them to collect "biographic and biometric" information - including iris scans, DNA samples and fingerprints - of key officials at the UN.
The diplomats are also ordered to find credit card details, e-mail addresses and passwords and encryption keys used for computer networks and in official communications.
The officials covered include "undersecretaries, heads of specialised agencies and their chief advisers, top SYG [secretary general] aides, heads of peace operations and political field missions, including force commanders".
At least nine similar directives covering various countries are included in the Wikileaks release, both under the name of Mrs Clinton and her predecessor, Condoleezza Rice.
World leaders

Various world leaders are covered by the documents - showing the diplomats' less than flattering views of them.
Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi is referred to as "feckless, vain, and ineffective as a modern European leader" by a US diplomat in Rome.
US diplomats were similarly unimpressed with German Chancellor Angela Merkel, describing her as "risk averse and rarely creative".
Former UK Prime Minister Gordon Brown tried to strike a deal over Gary McKinnon, who is wanted by Washington for hacking into US computer systems, the Guardian newspaper reports (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/us-embassy-cables-documents/228597). The newspaper goes on to describe the subsequent US rejection of the deal as a "humiliating rebuff".
The head of the Bank of England, Mervyn King, described the current UK Prime Minister David Cameron and Chancellor George Osborne as lacking in experience and criticised their "tendency to think about issues only in terms of politics and how they might affect Tory electorability", the Guardian newspaper reports (http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/us-embassy-cables-documents/249236).
A 2009 cable from the US embassy in Tripoli (http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2010/11/28/world/20101128-cables-viewer.html#report/cables-09TRIPOLI771) claims that Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi "appears to have an intense dislike or fear of staying on upper floors".
The cable also says Col Gaddafi "relies heavily" on his Ukrainian nurse, described as a "voluptuous blonde", and speculates that the two are involved in a romantic relationship.
Zimbabwe Prime Minister Morgan Tsvangirai is praised as a "brave, committed man" in a 2007 cable (http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2010/11/28/world/20101128-cables-viewer.html#report/cables-07HARARE638) written by then ambassador in Harare, Christopher Dell.
But the flattery does not last, and Mr Dell goes on to say: "Tsvangirai is also a flawed figure, not readily open to advice, indecisive and with questionable judgement in selecting those around him."
In another cable, a South African minister takes a pot-shot at Zimbabwean President Robert Mugabe, describing him as "the crazy old man".
In 2008, the Moscow embassy described Russian President Dmitry Medvedev as playing Robin to Prime Minister Vladimir Putin's Batman.
The cables also comment on the extremely close relationship between Mr Berlusconi and Mr Putin.
North Korea's Kim Jong-il is a "flabby old chap" suffering from trauma from a stroke, while Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is referred to as "Hitler".
Afghan President Hamid Karzai freed dangerous detainees and pardoned suspected drug dealers because they were linked to powerful or historically significant figures, a 2009 dispatch says (http://cablegate.wikileaks.org/cable/2009/08/09KABUL2246.html).
Yemen: Drone attacks

A January 2010 cable (http://cablegate.wikileaks.org/cable/2010/01/10SANAA4.html)records a meeting between Yemeni President Abdullah Saleh and Gen Petraeus, then US commander in the Middle East. The cable shows that the US has been operating clandestine bombing raids on suspected al-Qaeda targets in Yemen, with the approval of the Yemeni government in Sanaa.
Mr Saleh criticises the US use of cruise missiles against targets and says US troops cannot operate on the ground, but gives Gen Petraeus permission for fixed-wing bombers to circle outside Yemeni territory and "out of sight", waiting for target information.
The president is quoted as saying: "We'll continue saying the bombs are ours, not yours," while Deputy Prime Minister Rashad Alimi jokes that he had just "lied" to parliament, by telling them recent air raids in Arhab, Abyan, Shebwa had only been US-made but fired by Yemeni forces.

[lisaparadise]

I dont think there worried about whats out there now but more of the unknown thats sure to follow.im sure they will get him aernt you?

[AmyDaly]

even if they do get him, its not going to stop the info from coming out anymore

[lisaparadise]

even if they do get him, its not going to stop the info from coming out anymorenot to sure about that kiddo

[sunairco]

There's plenty of "insurance files" waiting to become torrents in the case anything happens. You can bet on that one. Passwords can be tweeted anytime. They're not stupid. There's been a lot of contingency and continuity planning as well from what I've read. They've never delivered any empty promises and I would expect this to be true too.

[GroobySteven]

not to sure about that kiddo

Why can't you see this? It's not one guy running around with a suitcase? All the info is already there. The papers have it and other people have it?
It's out there.

[AmyDaly]

not to sure about that kiddo

in his QA this morning he said that all of its been givin out to various news sources and in multiple locations. There is no stopping it anymore.

[lisaparadise]

Why can't you see this? It's not one guy running around with a suitcase? All the info is already there. The papers have it and other people have it?
It's out there.its not all out there its in a bunker stored away releasing them if and when hes ready whats so hard to figure out?

[AmyDaly]

its not all out there its in a bunker stored away releasing them if and when hes ready whats so hard to figure out?

Julian Assange:
The Cable Gate archive has been spread, along with significant material from the US and other countries to over 100,000 people in encrypted form. If something happens to us, the key parts will be released automatically. Further, the Cable Gate archives is in the hands of multiple news organisations. History will win. The world will be elevated to a better place. Will we survive? That depends on you.

[lisaparadise]

Julian Assange:
The Cable Gate archive has been spread, along with significant material from the US and other countries to over 100,000 people in encrypted form. If something happens to us, the key parts will be released automatically. Further, the Cable Gate archives is in the hands of multiple news organisations. History will win. The world will be elevated to a better place. Will we survive? That depends on you.i dunno what your thinking that the worlds gonna be a better place?like where is this coming from?do you not watch the news cnn cnbn fox whatever nobody and i mean nobody thinks this will be better come on beautifull

[GroobySteven]

its not all out there its in a bunker stored away releasing them if and when hes ready whats so hard to figure out?

Have you even read anything on this Lisa? It's been stated since the start of this that all documents have been given to
[LIST OF NEWSPAPERS] in completion.

From the BBC.
"Wikileaks is working its way through publication of the files, which have been given in full to five media groups, including the New York Times and Guardian newspapers."

[AmyDaly]

i dunno what your thinking that the worlds gonna be a better place?like where is this coming from?do you not watch the news cnn cnbn fox whatever nobody and i mean nobody thinks this will be better come on beautifull
No, I don't watch those news channels, thank god. I used to watch them years ago before I wised up and realized how misleading they are. And fox news is the worst! They are all terrible and full of misleading information. Of course they will say its bad. Fox and CNN especially might as well be us government news channels.

This documentary is a good watch if this is totally blindsiding news to you: http://www.outfoxed.org/

[GroobySteven]

i dunno what your thinking that the worlds gonna be a better place?like where is this coming from?do you not watch the news cnn cnbn fox whatever nobody and i mean nobody thinks this will be better come on beautifull

Practically everyone I know things this is a good thing ... if not just a bit duller than was expected, including most UK news sources.

[african1]

SO WHY ARE THEY ALLOWED TO HOST THE WORLD CUP IN 2022 ???

Because like Russia, they gave a huge bribe to Mr. Blatter. BTW, why were they voting for 2 world cups at the same time and why voting 12 years ahead of time? Is it because Sepp is trying to make the most out it before his term ends?

[GroobySteven]

Because like Russia, they gave a huge bribe to Mr. Blatter. BTW, why were they voting for 2 world cups at the same time and why voting 12 years ahead of time? Is it because Sepp is trying to make the most out it before his term ends?
Yeah no wonder Putin didn't turn up - it was in the bag. Why do only 22 people vote and why is it a secret ballot?

Good question, I have no idea why they done 2 together but Sepp Blatter rhymes with Fucking Cunt ... nearly.

[NYBURBS]

Yeah no wonder Putin didn't turn up - it was in the bag. Why do only 22 people vote and why is it a secret ballot?

Good question, I have no idea why they done 2 together but Sepp Blatter rhymes with Fucking Cunt ... nearly.

LOL, priceless

[lisaparadise]

LOL, pricelessthe world cup and the olypics is the most corrupt people youll ever meet notice how the countries enriched with oil feilds got the world cup?huge and i mean huge bribes and these pricks love to stick it to the U.S.

[bulldog]

If he really does have information that can be really damaging, he needs to get rid of it, delete it, whatever, it will be the death of him and anyone that touches it, they are using kid gloves now, but that will change if they begin to think he might do something stupid



On a side note, I dont mind knowing about stuff that is happening around the world and such, but do you really think straining the relations of governments around the world is a good thing? I mean ffs North Korea is doing enough of that on its on, Iran is too, why push the envelope further? No offense, I really dont want anymore wars in my lifetime, nor in my future kids

[Ben]

The plug has been pulled on Assange by all of his hosts. In Sweden. By Amazon in the US and finally by OVH in France. Wikileaks.org is dead with or without a proxy.

I am starting to feel for the guy. It seems to me now that Assange is a pioneer in the domain of virtual freedom. People all over the world are following closely this arm-wrestling between an individual and a super power.

I may not agree with Assange's actions but I sympathize with his struggle nonetheless. Last year, Iranian students almost changed their government using the power of tweets. Assange's journey will tell us whether really the Internet is still that powerful tool that levels the grounds and empowers the common man.

p.s. Wikileaks has a new address in a different country now.

Julian Assange is doing what he's doing, by and large, to expose what the mainstream media isn't doing: holding power accountable.
The role of journalism [and TMZ isn't news, isn't journalism -- ha! ha!] is to divulge corporate and government wrongdoing. That's the purpose of journalism. Its function isn't to highlight the lives of celebs.
What we have from the mainstream press is infotainment. It isn't news, it isn't journalism.
Again, who is going to hold government accountable if the corporate media and the government have a cozy/comfy relationship???????

[peggygee]

Yup. They moved to Switzerland. We'll see how the gvt there will react to the pressure.

New address is indeed wikileaks.ch

213.251.145.96

Thanks for the IP.

8)

[NYBURBS]

LOL, I just tried to send them money on paypal and it says: "This recipient is currently unable to receive money."

I wonder what is next.

[arnie666]

Assange, is working to others interest, don't believe he is a free spirit for a second. If you seriously think he is some kind of hero, you are extremely naive and perhaps michael savage is right that liberals do have a mental disorder, as they are blinded by their bias.because surely you would question what is being revealed and when, and who it concerns?

Iam no fan of the mainstream media either, I do believe journalism has gone from honest unbiased reporting of the facts to becoming much too opinionated, focussing too much on celebrities and influenced by government,with big overly emotional headlines, which actually tell you very little about what is going on in the world. Even the BBC and CNN (stations that I used to think were the best news stations going), have sucumbed, to this 24 hr new media, idea,the BBC in particular being far too influenced by the government in power at one particular time, .The BBC was held as less influenced by corporations,but actually due to the licence fee, and pressure from murdoch , it is now just as bad.

But again, saying journalists are JUST there to expose corporate and government wrongdoing,that that is it's sole purpose is wrong also. That suggests journalists should have an inbuilt dislike of governments and corporations and that should be reflected in their reporting. That won't help either. Anarchy in my view is just as harmful to society, as excesses by corporations and governments.

Actually governments do need to be able to keep their diplomatic discussions with other nations private. And there are things that need to be kept secret because lives and national security are at risk if they are not.What is wrong, is that in recent years, the people have been lied too regarding the reasons of going to iraq, there is an increased emphasis on world government ,that no one wants. For instance the EU, the peoples in those countries aren't allowed to vote on the decisions governments make on their behalf. Increasingly national identities are being blurred , decisions are made we have no say in, and we don't like it. For instance I tell you now, if the german people were allowed to vote on whether to keep the euro as their currency,they would say no,if the British were allowed a vote on whether to keep the lisbon treaty they would say no. In fact I'd wager the British people would probably vote to leave the EU.

There is a climate in america it seems where people think neither the republicans or democrats are representing them properly.That the elite political establishment, are out of touch.Hence the tea party,even if they are also controlled by those with money, many of it's members are supporting it because they are sick of being lied too and don't trust those at the top,I never bought the media lies for a second that it was really about Obama being black .Don't you see Obama is just another puppet like Bush . They are just sick of feeling not listened too by both parties . There is increased social unrest in Britain and other european countries.We have the menace of extremist islam to deal with also.

In my view,we all need a clean out of our political systems and the media , and get politicians we can trust to conduct business on our behalf, and yes behind closed doors in secret . The main issue I think,is since the idiocy of Bush (yes while a conservative I never supported him,many far right conservatives didn't support his war in iraq or anywhere else) the lies, no one trusts politicians, no one trusts the media either because they broadcasted those lies and called anyone traitors if they were against those wars .Sadly to me the leaks are a dangerous red herring lives are at risk and he will be dealt with ,believe me. google dr david kelly, I never believe what they said happened there. But don't think assange is on our side, he isn't someone is pulling his strings.

I just wish more people didn't just sit and moan about what the establishment is doing ,and get off their backsides and do something about it. Because THAT is the only thing they are frightened of and will listen too.

[hippifried]

I just wish more people didn't just sit and moan about what the establishment is doing ,and get off their backsides and do something about it. Because THAT is the only thing they are frightened of and will listen too.

Isn't that what Assange is doing, regardless of what anybody else thinks of his motives?

Sure scared the hell out of everybody for a day. Until they figured out that nobody was surprized by any of the revelations.

[dderek123]

i dunno what your thinking that the worlds gonna be a better place?like where is this coming from?do you not watch the news cnn cnbn fox whatever nobody and i mean nobody thinks this will be better come on beautifull

This post is comedy gold.

[arnie666]

Isn't that what Assange is doing, regardless of what anybody else thinks of his motives?

Sure scared the hell out of everybody for a day. Until they figured out that nobody was surprized by any of the revelations.


What assange is doing, won't change a damn thing and I don't believe he is some lone ranger figure, taking on the man. I also think he will get people killed, and some of you don't care about that in your thirst for information,perhaps those peoples who's live's will be lost you think is for the greater good or collateral damage? who does that remind you of?



As nigel farage said however, as there is this increasingly creep to removing peoples national identities, ,the people will become increasingly attracted to extreme nationalist groups within their own countries. Interesting times ahead.

[CaptainPlanet]

yea the damage has definitely been done.