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african1
11-20-2010, 12:02 PM
What happened to the queen of porn?
Is she still hiding?

(http://tour.shemalestrokers.com/06/vicki-tyla/vicki-tyla_4.jpg)

NewAgain
11-20-2010, 02:34 PM
Last pic is sooo hot

stillies77
11-20-2010, 03:43 PM
Check Hungdevils...maybe?

bat1
11-20-2010, 04:00 PM
who cares

bassman2546
11-20-2010, 04:08 PM
All I know is I'd love to do a threesome with her and Lisa Paradise. That is, if Vicki hasn't let herself go more than the last time I saw her.

african1
11-20-2010, 06:26 PM
who cares

Me and 3 others guys do. Obviously you do as well since you opened and read this thread. ;)

african1
11-20-2010, 06:30 PM
Check Hungdevils...maybe?

No she isn't...

What a fucking waste of talent. she comes on twitter from time to time with her weird comments but man...someone (in the industry) should convince her to come back...

Her and Mishka (aka Ivana diamonds etc...)

lisaparadise
11-20-2010, 07:13 PM
All I know is I'd love to do a threesome with her and Lisa Paradise. That is, if Vicki hasn't let herself go more than the last time I saw her.vicki and i have been very good friends for years i love her to death and i miss talking to her i wish she would come back not only in here but in porn.i know alot of people seem to hate her on boards like this but i know her on another level and i dont take her friendship lightly.YouTube - Pornstar Blog Vicki Richter (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnJUwllp-6o) in my opinon the most beautifull and passabe tgirl ive ever seen head to toe and voice flawless

DarylWashington
11-20-2010, 07:13 PM
She used to live in Dallas for a while, had her on Facebook before my account was deleted by the admins. I believe she is either in the Phoenix Arizona or Miami Florida area.

Pelheckitt
11-20-2010, 07:38 PM
You most definetly wont find her at Hungdevils, im 100% sure of that. She can be found at Vicki Richter Forums now along with most of the jokers that use to hang out at HD. Vicki is a blast when shes around. VRF (Vicki Richter) is your best bet!



http://vickirichter.com/boards/ Check it out.

bassman2546
11-20-2010, 11:43 PM
vicki and i have been very good friends for years i love her to death and i miss talking to her i wish she would come back not only in here but in porn.i know alot of people seem to hate her on boards like this but i know her on another level and i dont take her friendship lightly.YouTube - Pornstar Blog Vicki Richter (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnJUwllp-6o) in my opinon the most beautifull and passabe tgirl ive ever seen head to toe and voice flawless

Like I said on another thread, she was one of the first Tgirls that got me hooked. Her face is so passable. Her voice is sexy feminine and I love that cobra cock! Plus, she's intelligent which goes a long way with me.

BellaBellucci
11-20-2010, 11:58 PM
She can be found at Vicki Richter Forums now along with most of the jokers that use to hang out at HD.

Hey! I resemble that remark! :lol:

~BB~

bassman2546
11-21-2010, 12:22 AM
Why are they jokers on HD but people here are not?

BellaBellucci
11-21-2010, 12:31 AM
Why are they jokers on HD but people here are not?

Because here we're not required to worship at the altar of Grooby in order to stay on the mods' good side. :geek:

~BB~

Pelheckitt
11-21-2010, 01:28 AM
Why are they jokers on HD but people here are not?

Yeah you aint going to find anything funny on HD!

But Vicki Richter Forums is alot of laughs.http://vickirichter.com/boards/

Bella you are one of the main Jokers over there!

BellaBellucci
11-21-2010, 01:32 AM
Yeah you aint going to find anything funny on HD!

Please. I beg you. PLEASE do not set me up like this again. I'm... trying... not... to... :ignore::ignore::ignore::ignore::ignore::ignore: !!!!!

~BB~

phobun
11-21-2010, 01:47 AM
Please. I beg you. PLEASE do not set me up like this again. I'm... trying... not... to... :ignore::ignore::ignore::ignore::ignore::ignore: !!!!!

~BB~


If Seanchai gave you another shoot (as you've been practically begging him to do) you'd change your tune OVERNIGHT. It's short-sighted bitterness that keeps you on your anti-Grooby kick. Blame everyone except yourself about sub-par shoots, and all the fallout that followed, but don't torture us with another rant.

phobun
11-21-2010, 01:57 AM
No she isn't...

What a fucking waste of talent. she comes on twitter from time to time with her weird comments but man...someone (in the industry) should convince her to come back...

Her and Mishka (aka Ivana diamonds etc...)


Whatever happened to Ivana Diamonds? She had a cute face. Did she have SRS?

BellaBellucci
11-21-2010, 02:01 AM
If Seanchai gave you another shoot (as you've been practically begging him to do) you'd change your tune OVERNIGHT.

Wrong. I'm done with them. In fact they haven't paid me my affiliate revenue in over 6 months either, so I even dropped their banners. And I didn't blame everyone else. I refused to allow everyone else to put the blame solely on me. But that shows what you know. 'Begging?' Please. All I did was ask him to stop influencing other producers to blacklist me. I don't think that's fair either, do you? This is between his company and me and that's it.

Not to mention how the HD takeover went down, because yeah, the guy isn't a megalomaniac or anything:
http://vickirichter.com/boards/index.php?/topic/571-my-rant-on-the-hungdevils-controversy/

~BB~

Solitary Brother
11-21-2010, 04:33 AM
Vicki Richter was the FIRST transexual I followed online before even Vanity.
When I started following her she had her yahoo group and looked very much like a crossdresser....this was a long time ago.
Look at her now....I NEVER thought she could look this good.

african1
11-21-2010, 04:45 AM
You most definetly wont find her at Hungdevils, im 100% sure of that. She can be found at Vicki Richter Forums now along with most of the jokers that use to hang out at HD. Vicki is a blast when shes around. VRF (Vicki Richter) is your best bet!



http://vickirichter.com/boards/ Check it out.

Yeah, thanks man.

african1
11-21-2010, 04:54 AM
it's just funny how some girls are the talk of the day one year, and another year there isn't one word said about them. Think: Vicki, Daniella, Allanah, etc

african1
11-21-2010, 04:55 AM
Whatever happened to Ivana Diamonds? She had a cute face. Did she have SRS?

Ivana had a lot going for her. She just didn't know how to manage her assets. What a waste.

phobun
11-21-2010, 05:02 AM
Ivana had a lot going for her. She just didn't know how to manage her assets. What a waste.


What does that mean?

phobun
11-21-2010, 05:03 AM
This is between his company and me and that's it.


If you really believed that you wouldn't use this forum to impugn him in front of everyone else.

african1
11-21-2010, 05:13 AM
What does that mean?

I think I wrote in English. :shrug

BellaBellucci
11-21-2010, 05:46 AM
If you really believed that you wouldn't use this forum to impugn him in front of everyone else.

Which came first?

http://www.world-agriculture.com/images/chicken.jpg

http://unchealthcare.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/egg.jpg

~BB~

african1
11-21-2010, 06:14 AM
which came first?

http://www.world-agriculture.com/images/chicken.jpg

http://unchealthcare.files.wordpress.com/2009/11/egg.jpg

~bb~

Answer: JESUS

Pelheckitt
11-21-2010, 07:15 AM
Im pretty sure the Chicken or the egg, came before Jesus.

Buddy Jesus kicks ass!

BellaBellucci
11-21-2010, 07:24 AM
Im pretty sure the Chicken or the egg, came before Jesus.

Buddy Jesus kicks ass!

You mean Buddy Christ. :lol:

YouTube - Buddy Christ - Scene from Dogma (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BEZaPN8gUY)

I fucking LOVE that movie!

~BB~

Odelay
11-21-2010, 08:10 AM
For what it's worth, I've watched TS porn for at least a decade now (that's a lot of cocks I've seen) and Vicki's cut hard-on is the closest in shape and size to my own pride and joy.

Silcc69
11-21-2010, 08:36 AM
Vicki is the shit and Ivanna WOW loved that bitch sexy ass PR i seen her on tranny trick with Dirt Sanchez and she captivated me.

peggygee
11-21-2010, 09:56 AM
Vicki's cool peeps, sweet, funny, very bright, now that I know where
she's at I'll give her a holla.

traLika
11-21-2010, 10:54 AM
Yeah, Vicki is one of my favourites!

Nikka
11-21-2010, 01:50 PM
hiding from what?

bassman2546
11-21-2010, 03:41 PM
Answer: JESUS

I'm still waiting for proof of this Jesus guy. All I see is a ficticious book that contradicts everything to do with man and the evolution of man. I'll stick to logical science thank you very much. But, if this Jesus guy makes you feel good about yourself and makes you a better person, then all the power to ya.

lisaparadise
11-21-2010, 03:49 PM
I'm still waiting for proof of this Jesus guy. All I see is a ficticious book that contradicts everything to do with man and the evolution of man. I'll stick to logical science thank you very much. But, if this Jesus guy makes you feel good about yourself and makes you a better person, then all the power to ya.you ll never find any proof because its impossable jesus god the bible its all a myth period.we are all born to die and in the end theres only one thing we turn to and thats faith we have faith we really dont know what it is but we hope theres something there on the other side so when the lights go out we want to believe they will be turned on again somewhere somehow.

Coroner
11-21-2010, 04:27 PM
The bible much contradicts everything: evolution of man, physics, ethics etc. People invest pretty much time in reading about Kim Kardashian's private life rather than reading a good science book which is why they believe in fairy tales, even if they´ve been disproven a long time ago.

traLika
11-21-2010, 06:13 PM
Yup, 2000-5000 years ago our ancestors didn't have a clue about a lot of stuff that we take for granted today. They didn't know that plate tectonics were partially responsible for earthquakes, that thunder and lightning were caused by charged particles building up in the atmosphere, that a rainbow was a result of the diffraction of light through loads of tiny water droplets in the sky, and so on...

When any of these things happened they must have thought, "WTF???". So somebody came up with the perfect all-in-one solution and said: "There's a huge bearded dude in the sky who's doing all this stuff", and everyone else said, "Oh, okay, sounds cool - I guess that answers just about everything we don't understand including 'Is there life after death?'."

And, of course, if people were crushed during an earthquake or struck by a lightning bolt it was because they were bad - nothing to do with just being in the wrong place at the wrong time... ;)

Ooops, you've got me onto religion. I'd better shut up... hehe

Back to the lovely Vicki Richter...

NYCe
11-21-2010, 06:51 PM
Not to mention how the HD takeover went down, because yeah, the guy isn't a megalomaniac or anything:
http://vickirichter.com/boards/index.php?/topic/571-my-rant-on-the-hungdevils-controversy/

~BB~

Yikes.

Nikka
11-21-2010, 06:59 PM
Yikes.

who r these people?

GroobySteven
11-21-2010, 10:13 PM
http://vickirichter.com/boards/index.php?/topic/571-my-rant-on-the-hungdevils-controversy/


Hahahah - that's brilliant.
Some people have far too much time on there hands. What sad sack.

lisaparadise
11-21-2010, 10:56 PM
http://vickirichter.com/boards/index.php?/topic/571-my-rant-on-the-hungdevils-controversy/


Hahahah - that's brilliant.
Some people have far too much time on there hands. What sad sack.i got through the first 2 paragraghs lol

BellaBellucci
11-21-2010, 11:16 PM
http://vickirichter.com/boards/index.php?/topic/571-my-rant-on-the-hungdevils-controversy/


Hahahah - that's brilliant.
Some people have far too much time on there hands. What sad sack.

http://www.moonbattery.com/mega_lo_mart_sticker-.jpg

Crimson's post was long, but very complete. Anyone who wants to spend a whole 15 minutes trying to untangle your clusterfuck will easily find the truth. 'Too much time on there (sic) hands?' Look who's talking! Don't you have a company to run or something?! :lol:

~BB~

Pelheckitt
11-21-2010, 11:48 PM
http://vickirichter.com/boards/index.php?/topic/571-my-rant-on-the-hungdevils-controversy/


Hahahah - that's brilliant.
Some people have far too much time on there hands. What sad sack.


My guess is anyone that takes the time to post or reply to a post has downtime. It's kind of the pot calling the kettle black. Whatever guess everyone is entitled to their own opinions and thoughts on a forum where they arent subject to censorship if someone person doesnt like what is being said.

Star Angel 86
11-22-2010, 12:14 AM
i got through the first 2 paragraghs lol

Lisa,I know you took interest because your favorite American Moosehead drinking friend made a comment in that thread. :cheers::cool::twisted::mrgreen:

lisaparadise
11-22-2010, 01:20 AM
Lisa,I know you took interest because your favorite American Moosehead drinking friend made a comment in that thread. :cheers::cool::twisted::mrgreen:yes spitfire i had no clue till i read it lol but ya know i love ya

bassman2546
11-22-2010, 02:53 PM
you ll never find any proof because its impossable jesus god the bible its all a myth period.we are all born to die and in the end theres only one thing we turn to and thats faith we have faith we really dont know what it is but we hope theres something there on the other side so when the lights go out we want to believe they will be turned on again somewhere somehow.

My sentiments exactly. Someone put it best when they said, "Jesus is like Santa Claus for adults." If we're good all year, in this case all of our life, we will get rewarded on the big day.

bassman2546
11-22-2010, 03:09 PM
you ll never find any proof because its impossable jesus god the bible its all a myth period.we are all born to die and in the end theres only one thing we turn to and thats faith we have faith we really dont know what it is but we hope theres something there on the other side so when the lights go out we want to believe they will be turned on again somewhere somehow.


http://www.moonbattery.com/mega_lo_mart_sticker-.jpg

Crimson's post was long, but very complete. Anyone who wants to spend a whole 15 minutes trying to untangle your clusterfuck will easily find the truth. 'Too much time on there (sic) hands?' Look who's talking! Don't you have a company to run or something?! :lol:

~BB~

Who the hell has time to read all of that? All I know is, since Vicki has been banned I NEVER go to that site. It's boring, plain and simple. Sifting through all the bullshit that I read, to me, it's an ego thing from Seanchai that has resulted in a low quality site. I'm sure if he looks at the traffic, he'll find the numbers way down over the past several months. That being said, I've seen a lot of people swallow their pride after making such a decision and rescinding it. I don't think this would matter as I'm sure Vicki would tell him to shove it up his ass if he reconsidered. She may have all the quirks in the world, and what goes on at these 'prestigious round tables' has fuck all to do with my enjoyment of a forum. The bottom line? The fans are missing out. And to me, that's all that counts.

hwbs
11-22-2010, 04:46 PM
Whatever happened to Ivana Diamonds? She had a cute face. Did she have SRS?


One of my friends is childhood friends with ivanna....I got me meet her a couple months ago.....she is sooooo soooooo hot I have to say

GroobySteven
11-22-2010, 06:03 PM
I'm sure if he looks at the traffic, he'll find the numbers way down over the past several months.

Want to put money on that if you are so sure? Don't confuse ego with business sense.

We took out all the cliche and bullshit that was there before and left it open for anyone to feel comfortable there, regardless of whether they were deemed T enough. Vicki can come back anytime :dancing:

BellaBellucci
11-22-2010, 08:45 PM
Want to put money on that if you are so sure? Don't confuse ego with business sense.

You changed everything about the forum including design, personnel, target market, and advertised product. You changed the atmosphere from one of cozy community and turned the site into TGirlTalk.com Part II. Since that site has already failed, why revisit it? I don't know about anyone else, but that sounds a lot like an ego-driven decision to me. :wiggle:


We took out all the cliche and bullshit that was there before and left it open for anyone to feel comfortable there, regardless of whether they were deemed T enough. Vicki can come back anytime :dancing:

'T' enough? Seriously, you're the only one anywhere who thinks that a man in a wig and a dress is 'T.' This isn't about competition; it's about dedication. To use my usual analogy: dressing up in a bear suit doesn't make one a bear.

And Vicki can come back but I can't? Look, I don't care on a personal level, but let's be honest: that was just a stupid statement because neither of us are interested. You don't have to like us but we're both forum attractions and you don't deserve either of us. :geek:

~BB~

shemale-411
11-22-2010, 08:51 PM
Damn, I don't post on HD, but any site willing to ban the bad elements, and stick to it, yet be flexible enough to allow others back in can't be all bad, gonna register right now and make my first post!

http://www.shemale-411.com

BellaBellucci
11-22-2010, 08:54 PM
Damn, I don't post on HD, but any site willing to ban the bad elements, and stick to it, yet be flexible enough to allow others back in can't be all bad, gonna register right now and make my first post!

http://www.shemale-411.com

I'm surprised you haven't already. Aren't you Steven's sex slave or something? :whistle:

Oh, and when you get there, please don't look back.

http://www.bdsmromance.com/leatherman-old-guard/leather-master-with-male-slave.jpg

~BB~

GroobySteven
11-23-2010, 12:21 AM
And Vicki can come back but I can't? Look, I don't care on a personal level, but let's be honest: that was just a stupid statement because neither of us are interested. You don't have to like us but we're both forum attractions and you don't deserve either of us. :geek:

~BB~

No you can't - we don't want vermin thanks. You are not an attraction, nobody other than those following your pathetic little dramas are interested in you and they can get enough of you here.

BellaBellucci
11-23-2010, 12:52 AM
No you can't - we don't want vermin thanks. You are not an attraction, nobody other than those following your pathetic little dramas are interested in you and they can get enough of you here.

http://vickirichter.com/boards/index.php?app=core&module=search&do=search&andor_type=&sid=95765cd307ca94e88b0d057b69797b06&cType=topic&cId=457&search_term=bella&search_app=forums

Oh? But really? Isn't that just another lie? Do you ever tell the truth? You're too fucking funny! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Why do you keep fighting this war with me? All I ever wanted is a real apology for all of your attempts to subjugate me and your denials of such, but instead you just keep spreading lies, and badly I might add, since you're still proving my case for me.

~BB~

BellaBellucci
11-23-2010, 01:00 AM
Seanchai seems as though he is very skevy and conniving.

go bella!

It was a really, really awful breakup. It's a painful memory I'd rather nor revisit. Suffice it to say:

YouTube - Toni Braxton: He Wasn't Man Enough (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suO9o-AC_5U)

~BB~

dgs925
11-23-2010, 01:29 AM
Seanchai seems as though he is very skevy and conniving.

go bella!


Bella comes across as a sore loser who is mad because porn producers don't want to take naked pictures of her OLD ASS. Not to say that nobody wants to see pics of her ass, just not enough people to justify dealing with her.


That's just how it seems to me, as a reader.

ETA:

It was a really, really awful breakup. It's a painful memory I'd rather nor revisit.
~BB~

Except you try to revisit it on every thread on here!

BellaBellucci
11-23-2010, 01:35 AM
Bella comes across as a sore loser who is mad because porn producers don't want to take naked pictures of her OLD ASS. Not to say that nobody wants to see pics of her ass, just not enough people to justify dealing with her.


That's just how it seems to me, as a reader.

ETA:


Except you try to revisit it on every thread on here!

This actually has very little to do with me, which is why I posted the thread from Vicki's new board. But more importantly, the people who continue to use what you're saying as a defense for everything I say about people are doing nothing more than attempt to distract people from the true subject at hand.

Let's try to stay on topic:

Steven's response has been to simply laugh off the HD takeover fiasco. He continues to defend himself from allegations of shady behavior, and won't fess us when he's been caught. I don't care who he is, nobody is above having to at least apologize once in a while.

~BB~

dgs925
11-23-2010, 01:38 AM
the HD takeover fiasco


:rolleyes:

BellaBellucci
11-23-2010, 01:39 AM
:rolleyes:

You're happy with anybody who gives you free porn aren't you? :dancing: :lol:

~BB~

GroobySteven
11-23-2010, 01:43 AM
Steven's response has been to simply laugh off the HD takeover fiasco. He continues to defend himself from allegations of shady behavior, and won't fess us when he's been caught. I don't care who he is, nobody is above having to at least apologize once in a while.



It is a joke and that's why I'm laughing at you.
I bought a property, I made the changes I wanted to, to make it into a profitable venture and recoup the money. That's all it is.
If Vicki hadn't planned to create another version of the site, then why didn't she keep a fully backed-up copy of the database and release it on on a similar domain, that's why she was hit with a legal notice.

I'd apologize if I'd done anything wrong but I haven't.

BellaBellucci
11-23-2010, 01:44 AM
It is a joke and that's why I'm laughing at you.
I bought a property, I made the changes I wanted to, to make it into a profitable venture and recoup the money. That's all it is.
If Vicki hadn't planned to create another version of the site, then why didn't she keep a fully backed-up copy of the database and release it on on a similar domain, that's why she was hit with a legal notice.

I'd apologize if I'd done anything wrong but I haven't.

The proof is in the links so I'll play it where it lies.

~BB~

GroobySteven
11-23-2010, 01:48 AM
Why do you keep fighting this war with me? All I ever wanted is a real apology for all of your attempts to subjugate me and your denials of such, but instead you just keep spreading lies, and badly I might add, since you're still proving my case for me.

~BB~

1. I've told you before Bella, I'm not fighting a war with you. You may think you are with me but I've no interest in your other than responding to the negative publicity you spread about my company.

2. I've nothing to apologize for because apart from kicking you off my forums when you started spreading lies, I've done nothing to you - or had to deny anything. Once again, show any proof of anything?

3. What lies am I spreading about you?

Once again Bella, I didn't want to reshoot you - it's my companies money and my call on where I spend the budgets for each site. I'm sorry you couldn't deal with that but your ongoing campaign has shown how delusional you are and if it's had any effect, whatsoever, I've yet to see it.

BellaBellucci
11-23-2010, 02:36 AM
1. I've told you before Bella, I'm not fighting a war with you. You may think you are with me but I've no interest in your other than responding to the negative publicity you spread about my company.

2. I've nothing to apologize for because apart from kicking you off my forums when you started spreading lies, I've done nothing to you - or had to deny anything. Once again, show any proof of anything?

I started spreading 'lies?' You mean spreading speculation, and I'm sorry, but like it or not, that's totally legitimate as are the many criticisms of your company lobbed at you from numerous parties. The most interesting thing about all this is that it's your responses that make you look guilty... because you likely are.

All of this while you're also trying to convince everyone that I have no influence. If that were the case, wouldn't it be in your best interest to ignore me? You don't, so you're lying and you do feel like you're in a war. I'm shocked.

And I don't need absolute proof of a damn thing because we're not in court, but I've been laying out a pretty damning circumstantial case for a few months now.


Once again Bella, I didn't want to reshoot you - it's my companies money and my call on where I spend the budgets for each site. I'm sorry you couldn't deal with that but your ongoing campaign has shown how delusional you are and if it's had any effect, whatsoever, I've yet to see it.

What part of, 'I'll never shoot with you again,' did you not understand when I said it the first time? Second time? Fifth time?!

~BB~

GroobySteven
11-23-2010, 02:52 AM
I started spreading 'lies?' You mean spreading speculation, and I'm sorry, but like it or not, that's totally legitimate as are the many criticisms of your company lobbed at you from numerous parties. The most interesting thing about all this is that it's your responses that make you look guilty... because you likely are.

Guilty of what?



All of this while you're also trying to convince everyone that I have no influence. If that were the case, wouldn't it be in your best interest to ignore me? You don't, so you're lying and you do feel like you're in a war. I'm shocked.
When people state lies or mis-information, I refute that so the very few individuals who don't know your pathology for lying, get to see my point of view. That isn't a war, how dramatic.



And I don't need absolute proof of a damn thing because we're not in court, but I've been laying out a pretty damning circumstantial case for a few months now.
No, sorry, you really haven't laid out anything at all because you have no case ... what are you accusing us of?




What part of, 'I'll never shoot with you again,' did you not understand when I said it the first time? Second time? Fifth time?!
You were never asked so when would you have had an opportunity to say it even once? You just need to get over that Bella and move on/ :loser:

lisaparadise
11-23-2010, 03:09 AM
guilty of what?


When people state lies or mis-information, i refute that so the very few individuals who don't know your pathology for lying, get to see my point of view. That isn't a war, how dramatic.


No, sorry, you really haven't laid out anything at all because you have no case ... What are you accusing us of?



You were never asked so when would you have had an opportunity to say it even once? You just need to get over that bella and move on/ :loser:seriously this silliness has been going on long enough people.bella i get it that your pissed cause things didnt work out the way you had hoped but its time to let it go for the sake of the rest of us who read this crap.ive had words with steven many years ago when my first shoot didnt work out he was just gonna eat the money he paid me count his losses and not re-shoot me now the only reason he did was i had shown progression and never carried on in any public arena my displeasure simply because im smart enough to know that its a business and hes the boss period.this thread was supposed to be about our friend vicki who i love dearly instaed all i read is slanderous nonsence so im begging you to please let it go as i love reading your posts when your funny and flirty so from one mom to another just take the high road k.

BellaBellucci
11-23-2010, 03:16 AM
Guilty of what?


When people state lies or mis-information, I refute that so the very few individuals who don't know your pathology for lying, get to see my point of view. That isn't a war, how dramatic.


No, sorry, you really haven't laid out anything at all because you have no case ... what are you accusing us of?



You were never asked so when would you have had an opportunity to say it even once? You just need to get over that Bella and move on/ :loser:

I'm not going to let you turn this into another one of your convoluted clusterfucks. It's your stock in trade so I'm not biting. Let's stick to this one argument for now.

You bought HD and that's fine, but you promised to change very little when you did and instead of keeping that promise, you turned it into yet another Grooby altar. Seriously, what did you think you were going to do with that site? Get everyone to just kiss your ass?

So those who didn't want to be your bitches were forced to find a new home and Vicki gave it to them. You got upset about it and served her with notice. You then turned the mods against each other in order to solidify your dominance. Since then, the activity on your site has plunged because, as I've said, people quickly realized that it was just TGirlTalk 2 and that you're a lousy host outside of your ability to give out free porn. You're waaaaay too shady.

Let's talk about you for once and stop deflecting this back to me. I'm not here to play ping-pong.

http://www.geekologie.com/2009/03/31/ping%20pong%20dining%201.jpg

~BB~

GroobySteven
11-23-2010, 03:22 AM
I'm not going to let you turn this into another one of your convoluted clusterfucks. It's your stock in trade so I'm not biting. Let's stick to this one argument for now.

You bought HD and that's fine, but you promised to change very little when you did and instead of keeping that promise, you turned it into yet another Grooby altar. Seriously, what did you think you were going to do with that site? Get everyone to just kiss your ass?

So those who didn't want to be your bitches were forced to find a new home and Vicki gave it to them. You got upset about it and served her with notice. You then turned the mods against each other in order to solidify your dominance. Since then, the activity on your site has plunged because, as I've said, people quickly realized that it was just TGirlTalk 2 and that you're a lousy host outside of your ability to give out free porn.

Let's talk about you for once and stop deflecting this back to me. I'm not here to play ping-pong.



I actually changed very little overall apart from the attitude of not being so cliche. I bought it as a business and that's how I run it and it works - and it does work, I don't need to explain how to you.
The members of that site including the old ones are very happy with it which is why so many of the original members are STILL there, only the 7-8 sycophants to Vicki left on protest (yet never questioned why she sold it if she cared so much about you all!) - and of course, yourself, who was kicked off. Fancy, thinking I'd let you spread lies about my company, on a website I own?
I'm not here to play anything with you Bella, it's getting tiring so I'll leave you playing by yourself, as per usual.

PS What does ANY of this have to do with you anyway?

BellaBellucci
11-23-2010, 03:28 AM
seriously this silliness has been going on long enough people.bella i get it that your pissed cause things didnt work out the way you had hoped

Do you know why I keep going at it with Seanchai? Because people keep saying that. All of the shady shit that he does has nothing to do with my bad shoot. The shoot was simply the first example.

IMO, anyone continuing to use my bad personal experience with Seanchai's company as a way to dismiss my point of view of him considering the multiple examples of shade that I, and indeed others have provided, is in deep denial. That would explain why most of his defenders are on his payroll or want to be.

~BB~

GroobySteven
11-23-2010, 03:30 AM
Do you know why I keep going at it with Seanchai? Because people keep saying that. All of the shady shit that he does has nothing to do with my bad shoot. The shoot was simply the first example.

IMO, anyone continuing to use my bad personal experience with Seanchai's company as a way to dismiss my point of view of him considering the multiple examples of shade that I, and indeed others have provided, is in deep denial. That would explain why most of his defenders are on his payroll or want to be.

~BB~


What shady things Bella? Name them.

BellaBellucci
11-23-2010, 03:32 AM
PS What does ANY of this have to do with you anyway?

It had to do with me the moment you banned me for 'spreading lies' on your website. Funny, you still haven't told us what my lies were. :geek:

~BB~

BellaBellucci
11-23-2010, 03:34 AM
What shady things Bella? Name them.

We're only talking about one right now.

http://vickirichter.com/boards/index.php?/topic/571-my-rant-on-the-hungdevils-controversy/

Stay on topic. I'm not going to let you stray. Focus Danielsan.

http://www.cobrakaidojo.com/albums/cobrakai_allvalley/PDVD_057.jpg

~BB~

GroobySteven
11-23-2010, 03:34 AM
It had to do with me the moment you banned me for 'spreading lies' on your website. Funny, you still haven't told us what my lies were. :geek:

~BB~


Pretty much everything you've said about me or Grooby and your negative campaigning solely because we didn't want to shoot you again which you see as some sort of conspiracy.

shemale-411
11-23-2010, 03:45 AM
Why argue with Belluci. Every generation has one fringe pseudo political nutjob. Used to be Marlayna Lacie, now it's Belluci. The MO is almost identical. Down to prowling nightclubs with a cheap camera to get free content. You shot her down on a second shoot, and now you've denied her a place to self promote/rant. She will online argue you till the end of days, cause let's be honest, she doesn't have anything else to do.

BellaBellucci
11-23-2010, 03:49 AM
Pretty much everything you've said about me or Grooby and your negative campaigning solely because we didn't want to shoot you again which you see as some sort of conspiracy.

Now who's delusional? Conspiracy? The shoot (especially its marketing) was your responsibility. Either you marketed me poorly on purpose or you're incompetent. Which is it?

The way you bully people around on message boards for respecting the differences between the different types of transgenders (i.e. a TV is not a 'shemale') and your nuclear responses to the slightest criticisms...

How you subjugated some very important mods and forum members on HD. It was your right, but you could have been diplomatic. Well, no I guess you couldn't have because you lack the proper skills.

What about the shady circumstances regarding the closure of Cobra and the opening of Buddy's T-Party, not to mention the attempt to copy a trademarked nightclub name in T-Girl Tuesday?

How about suing people for thousands of dollars for 'stealing' porn that they couldn't afford in the first place? Wait, here's a visual:

http://www.cartoonstock.com/newscartoons/cartoonists/ggu/lowres/ggun460l.jpg

How about the original and excessive branding of the term 'shemale' on the internet? Or those tacky logos with the huge cocks? Or your general control-freak, megalomaniacal attitude? Or your token philanthropy that you tout as if you're the Gods' savior for transwomen?

Those are the highlights. Everything that happens around you has a questionable situation, circumstance, or conflict of interest tied to it. You have an angry demeanor and the people around you are all as arrogant and cliquey as the day is long, both online and in Los Angeles.

I can't say a positive thing about you or your company. I'm sorry. I've tried. I understand full well how it would have been better for me to get along with you, but I resent everything you stand for and it trickles down within your corporate culture to those who work with you.

~BB~

BellaBellucci
11-23-2010, 03:52 AM
Why argue with Belluci. Every generation has one fringe pseudo political nutjob. Used to be Marlayna Lacie, now it's Belluci. The MO is almost identical. Down to prowling nightclubs with a cheap camera to get free content. You shot her down on a second shoot, and now you've denied her a place to self promote/rant. She will online argue you till the end of days, cause let's be honest, she doesn't have anything else to do.

You're a lousy affiliate. Who cares what you think? :geek:

*crickets chirp*

~BB~

GroobySteven
11-23-2010, 04:07 AM
Now who's delusional? Conspiracy? The shoot (especially its marketing) was your responsibility. Either you marketed me poorly on purpose or you're incompetent. Which is it?

Neither. As a model you performed badly. Which is why other companies like SMC and Strokers didn't want to reshoot you.



The way you bully people around on message boards for respecting the differences between the different types of transgenders (i.e. a TV is not a 'shemale') and your nuclear responses to the slightest criticisms, such as this one...
A TV can be a shemale. Any transgender can be a shemale.
Nuclear? I've answered your points fairly calmly? I think you are a decrepit little shit but that's hardly nuclear and plenty of others feel the same way.



How you subjugated some very important mods and forum members on HD. It was your right, but you could have been diplomatic. Well, no I guess you couldn't have because you lack the proper skills.
I was diplomatic which is why I kept mods in place on Hungdevils and why there are still two original mods in place. I only kicked off one and that was the proper thing to do. As it is, how I run my business, really is none of your business.



What about the shady circumstances regarding the closure of Cobra and the opening of Buddy's T-Party, not to mention the attempt to copy a trademarked nightclub name in T-Girl Tuesday?
As I've said plenty times I have nothing to do with Cobra closing, or the Blue Moon nights other than I sponsor a night there (give away some DVD's and do some publicity) - your fucking nuts.
T-Girl Tuesday is NOT trademarked - go check it. I've had some illuminating conversations about the girl that runs that club and she thinks ... nah, better not say it.




How about suing people for thousands of dollars for 'stealing' porn that they couldn't afford in the first place? Wait, here's a visual:
I can't afford a Ferrari, I don't steal it.
This point is neither here nor there, it's a business decision we take to protect our copyright and business and ensure we will continue to be around for your future.


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How about the original and excessive branding of the term 'shemale' on the internet?
I never started that word, it was around long before and there were plenty of "shemale" sites on the internet. Shemale Central was the first I was aware of. Why did you further this by working with Shemale Yum, Shemale Club and Shemale Strokers if you had such an issue?



Or those tacky logos with the huge cocks?

Subjective.



Or your general control-freak, megalomaniacal attitude?

Why does this affect or offend you so much? I control my company, I have to - it keeps people employed?



Or your token philanthropy that you tout as if you're the Gods' savior for transwomen?
Huh? When have I EVER said anything of the sort? Madness.



Those are the highlights. Everything that happens around you has a questionable situation, circumstance, or conflict of interest tied to it.

Huh? My reputation is solid as a business person, you were just slighted by not being reshot and frankly, with statements like this, just pulling it out your ass?



You have an angry demeanor and the people around you are all as arrogant and cliquey as the day is long, both online and in Los Angeles.
An angry demeanor? Anybody whose met me in person would say anything but the sort. I'm fairly relaxed and easy going as are most of the people around me. We're not cliquey at all, I talk and hang out with anybody who may be interested in doing the same. It's just YOU we don't like to be around.



I can't say a positive thing about you or your company. I'm sorry. I've tried. I understand full well how it would have been better for me to get along with you, but I resent everything you stand for and it trickles down within your corporate culture to those who work with you.


We're a very small corporation Bella - we started grassroots and built up. Many of our photographers and staff have been with us for over 10 yrs and share in the company profits as well as have daily input into the sites. We don't "stand for" anything, we just happen to be the most prominent and the largest in this niche, which is a very small niche.
You've taken a mission against us as your role as an advocate for tgirl pornstars failed when the models basically said they didn't want you as an advocate for them. You are obviously someone who needs to have an enemy, whether it's a victim complex or you genuinely need to be seen to as some sort of activist, it's just misplaced and really, very very sad.

Odelay
11-23-2010, 04:16 AM
Hey Bella,

Why don't you just let it go? And I'll give you one big reason why... you have not been banned yet on Hung Angels of which seanchai has full control of. And participation on Hung Angels gives you a pretty high amount of visibility. I can see there are some guys on here that really dig you. I'm guessing that some Hung Angels participants have probably paid you for various webcam and/or escort services.

I, personally, have spent some significant $ on some girls who I would not have found anywhere except for here. If it's not the highest traffic TS forum that includes both TS admirers & T-girls, then it's got to be in the top 3. By constantly haranguing seanchai you're risking the ban, and therefore the loss of visibility that you get on this board, which costs you nothing out of pocket.

I'm not a particularly big seanchai fan. I'm sure many of your grievances are accurate. But so what? You've said your piece, now let it go.

But the thing is... I know you won't let it go. You're gonna start by responding to this post. You'll dice up what I'm saying in 3 or 4 parts addressing everything point by point, and in the process bore everyone to tears. You can't help yourself. This post is not an attack on you, yet you'll treat it as such. That's just the way you roll.

And I'll bet anyone $5 (payable via paypal) that Bella will indeed reply to this. I'll bet $10 with favorable 2-to-1 odds that Bella will continue to bash seanchai.

GroobySteven
11-23-2010, 04:27 AM
And I'll bet anyone $5 (payable via paypal) that Bella will indeed reply to this. I'll bet $10 with favorable 2-to-1 odds that Bella will continue to bash seanchai.

I wouldn't take that bet but I don't own this forum (or do I !?!) nor have I ever called for her to be banned from it.

tsdvdman
11-23-2010, 04:31 AM
Quote:
You have an angry demeanor and the people around you are all as arrogant and cliquey as the day is long, both online and in Los Angeles.

I have never ever met this guy in person but I can vouch for how cool and genuine he was with me when I was heading back to Brazil a few years ago. I really wanted some quality tgirl experiences and was looking for a contact. I PM'd him and he responded, gave me the name and number of a guy in Rio who hooked me up big time. No scams no trying to charge me, just genuinely cool people because of Senchai's name. By far my most memorable tranny experiences ever and I'm sure I fucked a couple of the popular brazillian pornstars now before they became stars..

BellaBellucci
11-23-2010, 04:32 AM
Neither. As a model you performed badly. Which is why other companies like SMC and Strokers didn't want to reshoot you.

Strokers has reshot me. Very successfully I might add.


A TV can be a shemale. Any transgender can be a shemale.

I have to disagree. If you want to shoot both TV's and TS's, it might be more respectful to not imply that they're the same.


Nuclear? I've answered your points fairly calmly?

I wasn't talking about the way you deal with me. It's fairly apparent that your responses to me are practiced at this point. Your ability to handle other criticism has always proven questionable.



I was diplomatic which is why I kept mods in place on Hungdevils and why there are still two original mods in place. I only kicked off one and that was the proper thing to do. As it is, how I run my business, really is none of your business.

None of my business? Oh, that old chestnut? Guess what: you run a message board and you promote it to the public. That said, all public opinion is valid.


As I've said plenty times I have nothing to do with Cobra closing, or the Blue Moon nights other than I sponsor a night there (give away some DVD's and do some publicity) - your fucking nuts.
T-Girl Tuesday is NOT trademarked - go check it. I've had some illuminating conversations about the girl that runs that club and she thinks ... nah, better not say it.

... and I don't believe a word of this.


I can't afford a Ferrari, I don't steal it.
This point is neither here nor there, it's a business decision we take to protect our copyright and business and ensure we will continue to be around for your future.

Wow! At thousands sued per piece of content 'stolen,' I wonder how much the restitution would be for stealing an Italian sports car. Moreover, did you ever consider other alternatives, such as going after the content hosts or using piracy as a promotional tool? No, of course not, because suing people is a promotional tool, too. Any press is good press, right El Capitan?


I never started that word, it was around long before and there were plenty of "shemale" sites on the internet. Shemale Central was the first I was aware of. Why did you further this by working with Shemale Yum, Shemale Club and Shemale Strokers if you had such an issue?

Didn't I read that you took credit for the branding in your interview with Caramel? Why yes, I did!


Huh? When have I EVER said anything of the sort? Madness.

I didn't say you said, I said you 'act as if.'


Huh? My reputation is solid as a business person, you were just slighted by not being reshot and frankly, with statements like this, just pulling it out your ass?

Your reputation with whom? And no, again you're lying. The shoot was the catalyst to make me look more closely at the way you operate. It is not even remotely the sole problem I have with you as I've shown repeatedly.


An angry demeanor? Anybody whose met me in person would say anything but the sort. I'm fairly relaxed and easy going as are most of the people around me.

While that may be true with some people, it's not true with everyone. Being an internet tough guy doesn't help you either, though.


We're a very small corporation Bella - we started grassroots and built up. Many of our photographers and staff have been with us for over 10 yrs and share in the company profits as well as have daily input into the sites.

Maybe you should give more girls that same opportunity?! To your credit, I can see you've been starting to, but IMO you're lagging way behind SMC.


You've taken a mission against us as your role as an advocate for tgirl pornstars failed when the models basically said they didn't want you as an advocate for them. You are obviously someone who needs to have an enemy, whether it's a victim complex or you genuinely need to be seen to as some sort of activist, it's just misplaced and really, very very sad.

The backlash against you has been building for a while. You made yourself my enemy, not me, so I have no problem spearheading that opposition. You're over-analyzing this. Yes, it really is your own fault.

http://vickirichter.com/boards/index.php?/topic/571-my-rant-on-the-hungdevils-controversy/page__view__findpost__p__12108

~BB~

BellaBellucci
11-23-2010, 04:37 AM
Quote:
You have an angry demeanor and the people around you are all as arrogant and cliquey as the day is long, both online and in Los Angeles.

I have never ever met this guy in person but I can vouch for how cool and genuine he was with me when I was heading back to Brazil a few years ago. I really wanted some quality tgirl experiences and was looking for a contact. I PM'd him and he responded, gave me the name and number of a guy in Rio who hooked me up big time. No scams no trying to charge me, just genuinely cool people because of Senchai's name. By far my most memorable tranny experiences ever and I'm sure I fucked a couple of the popular brazillian pornstars now before they became stars..

He got you laid. Gee. I wonder why you like him. :roll:

~BB~

GroobySteven
11-23-2010, 04:49 AM
The backlash against you has been building for a while. You made yourself my enemy, not me, so I have no problem spearheading that opposition. You're over-analyzing this. Yes, it really is your own fault.

~BB~

Oh dear, keep it up Bella - your doing a great job at that.

lisaparadise
11-23-2010, 04:56 AM
hey bella,
.

And i'll bet anyone $5 (payable via paypal) that bella will indeed reply to this. I'll bet $10 with favorable 2-to-1 odds that bella will continue to bash seanchai.oh for fucks sakes i was watchin my leafs kick ass and missed out on the betting damn it

african1
11-23-2010, 05:11 AM
I'm surprised you haven't already. Aren't you Steven's sex slave or something? :whistle:

Oh, and when you get there, please don't look back.

http://www.bdsmromance.com/leatherman-old-guard/leather-master-with-male-slave.jpg

~BB~


:mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen::mrgreen:


This picture is funny as hell.

african1
11-23-2010, 05:19 AM
Bella comes across as a sore loser who is mad because porn producers don't want to take naked pictures of her OLD ASS. Not to say that nobody wants to see pics of her ass, just not enough people to justify dealing with her.


That's just how it seems to me, as a reader.




She doesn't look old to me. On the opposite, she's vibrant and beautiful.
You must be stoned when you do your readings Mr. Reader. May I suggest you change your avatar. You don't deserve to use the face of a genius.

Pelheckitt
11-24-2010, 09:11 AM
Bella has a great ass!

bassman2546
11-24-2010, 04:44 PM
oh for fucks sakes i was watchin my leafs kick ass and missed out on the betting damn it

And you're a fellow Leafs fan too. You are just too awesome young lady.

lisaparadise
11-24-2010, 04:46 PM
And you're a fellow Leafs fan too. You are just too awesome young lady.yes my life revolves around my beloved maple leafs ive met a few of them if ya know what i mean lol

bassman2546
11-24-2010, 04:49 PM
oh for fucks sakes i was watchin my leafs kick ass and missed out on the betting damn it


Want to put money on that if you are so sure? Don't confuse ego with business sense.

We took out all the cliche and bullshit that was there before and left it open for anyone to feel comfortable there, regardless of whether they were deemed T enough. Vicki can come back anytime :dancing:

I guess I can only take your word for it. All I know is, I don't go there and I hear countless people say they don't go there anymore. You're the owner so any proof will only be sided toward you.

bassman2546
11-24-2010, 04:49 PM
yes my life revolves around my beloved maple leafs ive met a few of them if ya know what i mean lol

Nice. Good for you. So how is that Mikael Grabovsky in bed? lol

GroobySteven
11-24-2010, 04:57 PM
I guess I can only take your word for it. All I know is, I don't go there and I hear countless people say they don't go there anymore. You're the owner so any proof will only be sided toward you.
But I don't need to prove it.

lisaparadise
11-24-2010, 05:03 PM
Nice. Good for you. So how is that Mikael Grabovsky in bed? loldude lol im 47 damn it my peeps are retired now and oh ya i bet ya didnt know that one of the all times great leafs lives a couple miles from me who i play golf with lol

bassman2546
11-24-2010, 05:18 PM
yes my life revolves around my beloved maple leafs ive met a few of them if ya know what i mean lol


dude lol im 47 damn it my peeps are retired now and oh ya i bet ya didnt know that one of the all times great leafs lives a couple miles from me who i play golf with lol

Sorry, your wording led me to believe it was current leafs. And you don't look 47. not even close.

Coroner
11-24-2010, 08:07 PM
47? No fucking way.

nohj68
12-01-2010, 10:01 PM
yes my life revolves around my beloved maple leafs ive met a few of them if ya know what i mean lol

Ranger fan here but glad to see some fellow hockey lovers on the boards.

As for Vicki...whenever someone makes a poll about T-girls and who is your favorite, etc., she always comes into mind.

Tepres
12-02-2010, 12:41 AM
The Maple Laughs get way more loyalty than they deserve. :smh

youshouldtrythislol
12-02-2010, 01:45 AM
after reading the long post about the 'hd takeover', i think that anyone involved in that, or anyone who has issues with eachother, should be locked in a cage and fight to the death. i just lost 10 minuites of my life that i will never get back. lol.

lisaparadise
12-02-2010, 01:48 AM
after reading the long post about the 'hd takeover', i think that anyone involved in that, or anyone who has issues with eachother, should be locked in a cage and fight to the death. i just lost 10 minuites of my life that i will never get back. lol.co-sign but afterall kids will be kids some people will never grow up.ps. somebody tell vicki to get her ass in here i need to speak with her

BellaBellucci
12-02-2010, 01:51 AM
co-sign but afterall kids will be kids some people will never grow up.ps. somebody tell vicki to get her ass in here i need to speak with her

Caring about and losing the people you talk to on a daily basis, whether in person or online, is childish to you? :confused:

A lot of friendships were ended as a result of the HD shakeup and some people were appropriately upset. I don't see the need to call them kids. :geek:

~BB~

lisaparadise
12-02-2010, 01:53 AM
Caring about and losing the people you talk to on a daily basis, whether in person or online, is childish to you? :confused:

A lot of friendships were ended as a result of the HD shakeup and some people were appropriately upset. I don't see the need to call them kids. :geek:

~BB~i dont believe in online friendships sorry you all acted like spoilled little kids fighting over the remote

BellaBellucci
12-02-2010, 01:58 AM
i dont believe in online friendships sorry you all acted like spoilled little kids fighting over the remote

See if you get me in video chat with that attitude! :lol:

~BB~

lisaparadise
12-02-2010, 02:00 AM
See if you get me in video chat with that attitude! :lol:

~BB~roflmfao.see what happens when ya take stevens side over mine i tend to get alittle pissy lol but dont get your snot in a knot lol im just messin with ya

BellaBellucci
12-02-2010, 02:24 AM
roflmfao.see what happens when ya take stevens side over mine i tend to get alittle pissy lol but dont get your snot in a knot lol im just messin with ya

Like I said on the other thread, I call 'em how I see them, regardless of who stands on either side. I don't exactly have a reputation for being a follower, now do I? :lol:

~BB~

lisaparadise
12-02-2010, 02:32 AM
Like I said on the other thread, I call 'em how I see them, regardless of who stands on either side. I don't exactly have a reputation for being a follower, now do I? :lol:

~BB~thats because i havent trained you just yet lol

bassman2546
12-02-2010, 03:17 AM
The Maple Laughs get way more loyalty than they deserve. :smh

Hey, we're dedicated fans. We don't bounce around from team to team like some people do in other major sports. It's hockey and you'll find that most fans stick with the team they like regardless of where they finish in the standings. I don't see anything wrong with it. I'm sure as fuck not goona cheer for the Habs, Wings, Bruins or Rangers.

bassman2546
12-02-2010, 03:29 AM
The Maple Laughs get way more loyalty than they deserve. :smh


But I don't need to prove it.

Yes you do.