Guys Playing The Female Role???

[TominNYC]

I have been into TGirls since I was 22 years old back in 1992. I discovered Sallys and Edelwiess in NYC and had great fun for years. I loved meeting the TG girls, having a good time and treating them like woman sexually (me on top). In 95 I got into a live -in relationship with a GG until 2002 and was basicially out of the TG scene. After I became single again 3 years ago I re-discovered Tgirls from the internet (shemaleyum).

What shocks me today after reading SER, this forum, and other TG forums is the fact that most guys who are into TG`s want to bottom??? I don`t understand that?? My TS friend who is an escort tells me that 80% of the guys shes sees want to get f_@ked??? Thats shocking to me ??

My point is that I don`t understand the guys who say that they are str8, but love "chicks with dicks", are NOT attracted to MEN, see TS/TG as woman but then take the FEMALE role with the TS/TG woman that they are attracted to??

Why does a man EVER take the female role??? I don`t understand it?

[cheribaum]

because they are closet homosexuals. Im not gonna pretend....

[GroobySteven]

Ok I'll bite!
I'm not objective, I'm top only.

I think most of the guys who visit escorts are bottom types as they cannot find that in another relationship. I think many guys who are top only with TS's are probably as comfortable, if not more with females as TS's and see TS's as an extension as female - or females with a twist.

A lot of guys are into being bottom with TS's but not as many as websites like this may portray. The bottom guys are more vocal about specific girls - those with the biggest cocks, regardless of the rest of them, whereas top guys will choose a girl whose facial features and other body types may appeal to them more.

I also find that many bottom only type guys are adament that these girls are into being tops with them, even in the face of blunt criticism or truisms like MEGABODY FEELS THE NEED TO SHARE.

So for all those reasons, it gives the appearance that there are more bottom guys - personally, I think overall if you look at guys who go with TS's on a casual or relationship basis (none escort) , it would be balanced in the other direction.

This is not a criticism or dig - whatever you do is fine with me, just my opinion as someone whose worked with these girls for over 8 yrs and has met many more than you could ever dream of.
:?
seanchai

[canihavu]

Here we go again...

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

Here we go again...

LMAO

Top-Only here also

I'm not going to sit back and judge anyone based on their sexual preference. 98% of the tgirls I have met wanted to get FUCKED, but the other 2% said they were top-only (which got them a simple handshake, thank you, buh-bye)

I will admit I am often impressed by some of the pics of some of these ladies with garguantuan members between their legs, but that's all it is........
Having been with one of the ladies you guys on here WORSHIP (no I wont name names) I have to tell you, she like many others covers her privates with her hand (I'd like to know who thought that up, it's so common, even in videos)

To all you bottoms, no disrespect to you at all. Do you.............. leaves more horny broads for me (hehehehe)

[Brideshead]

Here we go again...

LMAO

Top-Only here also

I'm not going to sit back and judge anyone based on their sexual preference. 98% of the tgirls I have met wanted to get FUCKED, but the other 2% said they were top-only (which got them a simple handshake, thank you, buh-bye)

I will admit I am often impressed by some of the pics of some of these ladies with garguantuan members between their legs, but that's all it is........
Having been with one of the ladies you guys on here WORSHIP (no I wont name names) I have to tell you, she like many others covers her privates with her hand (I'd like to know who thought that up, it's so common, even in videos)

To all you bottoms, no disrespect to you at all. Do you.............. leaves more horny broads for me (hehehehe)

I think we can guess who she is.

[APD1]

The implication,of you post Tomin that if you're top you can't be homosexual is pretty far off.There are men who dig only men, and are exclusively top.
Perhaps,in the guys who like getting topped,the part of the brain which responds visually to the sexual object,is only stimulated by a woman's body or face;another part which is associated with the sex act itself,is only stimulated when the guy is submissive or being penetrated.Perhaps this explains why "MEGABODY FEELS THE NEED TO SHARE" . :lol:
On the other hand, society is prejudiced against homosexuality and our personality and tastes are greatly determined ,by our environment.Maybe,as you implied it is better for a guy's ego,to be toppped by transsexual and convince himself he's not gay.
I'll hedge my bets as whether its environment or genetics.Probably both. :)

[Ecstatic]

I'm versatile and enjoy both roles. Being bottom has nothing more or less to do with being gay than being top does. Being bottom has everything to do with the simple fact that, especially with a talented top who's the right size for you, it feels so damn good. If you've never tried it, you'll never know. Girls who are bottom only (unless they top for coin as escorts because it pays) may look down at guys who want to be bottom because that's how they see themselves sexually as women, but even they must admit that it feels damn good.

Now topping of course feels damn good too, and a nice tight ass is a sweet thing (as I just experienced the other day, ummm). Do what feels good to you, and don't judge others, that's my take.

[rick_932]

The bottom guys are more vocal about specific girls - those with the biggest cocks, regardless of the rest of them, whereas top guys will choose a girl whose facial features and other body types may appeal to them more.



top only here also and the face is the first physical feature i look for in a girl

[hwbs]

these topics always crack me personally, lol

[GroobySteven]

Top here only also, ltr with a sweet tgirl.

The reason these guys who want to bottom for a t girl is simple. They are closet homo's (not that there is anything wrong with that.) who dont want a MAN type to fuck them and bring out thier sub side. They rely on tgirls because it takes the male persona out of the equation as much as possible.

In the bottom's defense, sex is sex, and what you do is your own business, there are no right or wrongs.

The only issue I have with the whole thing is the guys that scream how getting fucked by a ts is somehow supposed to be straight sex.

If guys who are bottom are closet homos because they get fucked off tgirls - then any guy who goes with a tgirl is a closet homo - because those girls have cocks!
I didn't think this was going to be a thread on whose a homo - as long as you're into tgirls, you're not straight.
seanchai

[GroobySteven]

yes yes u all look for the face, in fact u dont even like to see the penis, u prefer it remained tucked...get the fuck outta here...who started this phoney parade? look at all these fuckin guys scurrying to get in line with the i hate cock signs...yes ur all tops and all look at the face, thats why most of this site is patrick ewing with a wig and guys gushing about how u would love to be on ur knees...

I think you're missing my point and getting way over defensive and aggressive on this.
The reason it appears that there are more bottoms than tops on these boards is that they're more vocal, on one model than spread out over a bunch of models - and yes, for me I look at the girls face before I look at anything else at all.
Many guy's preferring bottom will go nuts over a girl with the biggest cock, regardless of race, body type, etc.
It's not a put down - it just a statement as to why it appears there are more bottoms than tops. Obviously, if you're into tgirls, you're into them because they do have cock, yet for many tops the size of it doesn't matter so much.
I've seen the requests and comments coming in through the websites for years and privy to more information there.
The reason I stated, I'm top only - was to give disclosure that I am not objective as such on it - as I take that one role only.
seanchai

[GroobySteven]

I'd definately agree that most people on this forum don't really care one way or another what people do - or what they're into within boundaries, when someone brings something up so blatent then they are probably closeted on it as you said.
seanchai

[GroobySteven]

Nobody has ever told me I sound stupid.Im like so e-hurt right now.

Well you did get fired by Walmart....
:oops:
:idea:
seanchai

[GroobySteven]

Cuz im sexy,passable, and smart.

All qualities for a Walmart worker :-)

Reach for the skies baby, reach for the skies!
seanchai

[slinky]

a) there's a difference between bottoming and "playing the female role"

b) there's a difference between bottoming and "playing the female role"

c) there's a difference between bottoming and "playing the female role"

[slinky]

It's so funny to see that even on a place like this, the worst thing you can be is gay. Top only guys who are fucking TS's want to assert their superiority (read "straightness") over guys who bottom. Even a TS writing: "because they are closet homosexuals. Im not gonna pretend....".

Let me guess: guys who only see GG's, but like a finger or dildo in their ass are also gay? Of course they are. It can't be becxause they just like the way ot feels. And all gay guys who are bottoms are really "the feamle in the relationshop" (the famous "who's the wife?").

And it's even more ironic here than when you see "straight" criticism of guys who see TS's. Here you've got a bunch of guys seeing genetic males who still have their equipment. Wait... that's "here you have guys who chase after genetic males who still have their equipment" criticising other guys for doing the same thing, based solely on what activites they engage in with those genetic males who still have their quipment after the "catch" them". Boy, that kettle sure is black..

Wait... it must be that everyone here is Greek. In Greece, older men frequently take young boys as lovers. The society, however, doesn't consider the older guy to be gay. Only the young boy. Most poeple think this sounds rediculous. I wonder how many here think it's silly, but still hold onto very similar notions when it comes to ther own TS proclivities. I guess it depends on who's ox is being gored.

[slinky]

Nobody has ever told me I sound stupid..


No comment.

[BlackAdder]

Wow...I was going to bust on some ignorant people, but J and Danny have written my posts for me....Awesome, and I guess im a little slow on the draw:(.



I like being a bottom, but a closet homosexual??? Pfff...get real...If thats the route I wanted to go I certainly wouldnt be here.

[slinky]

My point is that I don`t understand the guys who say that they are str8, but love "chicks with dicks", are NOT attracted to MEN, see TS/TG as woman but then take the FEMALE role with the TS/TG woman that they are attracted to??

Yeah, it's only the last part which is odd. Uh, huh. Up till then, everyone in the world would be fine with that. NOT!!!!

How about guys who go to gay book stores and watch straight porn while some gay guy sucks their dicks? As long as they aren't "playing the female role", they're just like any other "normal" straight guy, right?

How about guys who see TS's and play with their dicks (or blow them). As long as they don't "play the female role" by taking it in the ass, they're still straight, right?

You know who's also secretly gay? Asians! They go to these Asian Massage parlors where the girls stick their tongues up their asses. What could be more gay than getting your salad tossed? I mean, that's prison gay. Next thing you know they'll be getting spooned.

[hwbs]

one of my favorite quotes from some of these people are " im a top when im with a gg" lmfao... :smh

[slinky]

and im a vegetarian when im eating salad:)

And in this case, we've got guys claiming that they are vegeratian even when there's meat in their salad.




(or should I have said a side of meat with the salad they are eating?)

[slinky]

Question: Why do you think gay males like to get fucked? Because it makes them "feel gay", or because they enjoy it?

[hwbs]

one of my favorite quotes from some of these people are " im a top when im with a gg" lmfao... :smhI know that sounds a little odd, but don't laugh. There are guys who are all about taking the strap-on from gg's. So that's yet another grey area. ;)

yes i saw a thing on hbo....its huge in sweeden, lmao....

[hwbs]

like that classic scene in road trip at the sperm bank, lol.... "u are going to feel someslight pressure on the prostate" lmao

[hwbs]

not going there, lmfao

[Hugh Jarrod]

Wow haven't been on in a while and missed this, so the female role huh? This just harkins back to another is it gay, straight, or bi BS thread. If you don't understand it then no one can help you. Just by the way you phrase the question you're already pigeonholing people, go beat a dead horse and figure it out on your own. Real easy.

[Ecstatic]

Here's an observation no one has made yet but which several girls from both Mexico and Thailand have made to me: they think it's an American thing. They had never encountered guys wanting to be bottom in their native countries, but only when they came to the US. Because they had always received, this at first seemed weird and even repulsive to them. But each tried it because guys wanted it (and they were being well paid for their services) and they discovered that they really enjoy being top.

I'm thinking that, rather than guys who like being bottom being closet gays, it's the guys who put down those wanting to bottom and/or protest too loudly that they are "only top" who are homophobic and afraid to admit their sexual attractions even to themselves. (Note: this does not mean anyone who simply prefers to top, like seanchai, only those who claim it as some sort of badge of honor or superiority.)

[*Kiely_Marie*]

Lalalalalalaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

[*Kiely_Marie*]

:shock:

[flabbybody]

Ecstatic, as per usual, you are so correct. Me, I'm not into this "bottom" thing. don't really want anything up my rear there that's not absolutely necessary. did the colonoscopy thing. no fun.

but for those of you are into that scene, no judgement call here. If you want your tgirl friend to f-k you, you're no more or less a man than I am. just use condoms and have a nice life.

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

flabby knows me well enough we hang out at the club and crack jokes, so he'll understand what I am about to say............ you see these horny bastards come in & out of the club weekly, the girls begin to come up to you to just TALK...................
when that happens you start to hear them vent about the guys they get as "clientele" how many of them are wearing Victoria's Secret underwear better than their own, or how they want to be taken roughly from behind......... my point...................
OF COURSE THEY WANNA BE FUCKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

lol, so fellas...........next time you're with that beautiful ts you make sure you rip open her blouse pull off that skirt and pound her furiously!!!!!!!!!!!!

[BlackAdder]

Good advice lol!!!!

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

Here's an observation no one has made yet but which several girls from both Mexico and Thailand have made to me: they think it's an American thing. They had never encountered guys wanting to be bottom in their native countries, but only when they came to the US. Because they had always received, this at first seemed weird and even repulsive to them. But each tried it because guys wanted it (and they were being well paid for their services) and they discovered that they really enjoy being top.

Thats a pretty good observation Ecstatic. I believe in that too. Topping/bottoming has had its cultural influences when it comes to transexual ladies. Ladies brought up in other countries especially South East Asian tgirls are for the most parts bottoms/submissive. While there's completely nothing wrong with topping/domme, It is for the most part a "Western" type of mentality. And in a service industry such as Escorting, to top and or bottom is a "fixed" offering on the menu to cater to a more wider types of men/clientel.


I'm thinking that, rather than guys who like being bottom being closet gays, it's the guys who put down those wanting to bottom and/or protest too loudly that they are "only top" who are homophobic and afraid to admit their sexual attractions even to themselves. (Note: this does not mean anyone who simply prefers to top, like seanchai, only those who claim it as some sort of badge of honor or superiority.)

Well said. :wink: Ive to Add though that topping doesnt neccessarily mean one is "superior" and or "dominant" over the ones taking it of being the "bottom". It could also "Translate" that the ones who does the topping is a submissive..therefore, "submitting" i.e. "servicing" to pleasuring his/her partner. Its goes both ways I believe. :wink:

~Kisses.

HTG

[Hugh Jarrod]

Actually I think men who have sex with men are gay. Just my opinion.

[MarylandsMighty]

I love the fact that on a board that celebrates the penis, that we have a pissing match over who is straighter.

Ridiculous. Some elitist snobs on here who look down on "those who bottom".

Hey you may top, but um your nuts are still slapping a ballbag yourself. lol.

I especially hate the disdain TS's have towards guys who want to bottom.

Listen up TS (if this applies) YOU want the world to accept and embrace you for your choice of having breasts, and trying to be passable. YOU dont want people to sneer at you, call you names, or worse commit senseless acts of crime towards you.

Yet, YOU find it ok to slam guys who actually take an interest in you by calling them a fag, closet gay, etc.

Sorry but YOU want to be treated decently, and the very guys you slam deserve the same thing.

No one is right when it comes to this argument. No one.

Because point blank a group of straight men at the local ESPN zone having poured down 12 pitchers of beer would beat ALL of our asses.

They wouldnt ask who tops or bottoms. They would yell "fag", and commence the beating.

So we need to accept who we are, what we are, what we like, and move on.

[Ecstatic]

Thats a pretty good observation Ecstatic. I believe in that too. Topping/bottoming has had its cultural influences when it comes to transexual ladies. Ladies brought up in other countries especially South East Asian tgirls are for the most parts bottoms/submissive. While there's completely nothing wrong with topping/domme, It is for the most part a "Western" type of mentality. And in a service industry such as Escorting, to top and or bottom is a "fixed" offering on the menu to cater to a more wider types of men/clientel.
Hmmm, how about prix fixe menu? I'd enjoy all seven courses myself. ;)


Well said. :wink: Ive to Add though that topping doesnt neccessarily mean one is "superior" and or "dominant" over the ones taking it of being the "bottom". It could also "Translate" that the ones who does the topping is a submissive..therefore, "submitting" i.e. "servicing" to pleasuring his/her partner. Its goes both ways I believe. :wink:

~Kisses.

HTG
Absolutely. The superior lover, regardless of position, is the one who fully engages with his/her partner, making for a truly satisfying encounter. In a sense, all those escorts who top for money but hate it and would never do it with a non-paying partner are being submissive, if you follow.

But this much I know: there's a huge difference between being an "active" bottom and a "passive" bottom: an passive bottom just lies there and takes it, and that's not at all satisfying. But someone who knows how to move and how to enrich the experience, you could say someone who knows how to ride, will make the encounter far more fulfilling.

Like the old blues song: "I know my rider 'cuz I've seen her in the dark."

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

But this much I know: there's a huge difference between being an "active" bottom and a "passive" bottom: an passive bottom just lies there and takes it, and that's not at all satisfying. But someone who knows how to move and how to enrich the experience, you could say someone who knows how to ride, will make the encounter far more fulfilling.

I agree. Muscle control and Gyratings hips then Ecstatic :wink:? LOL

~Kisses.

HTG

[BlackAdder]

Hmm...what did you find funny Shalaya pray tell??

[Ecstatic]

Oh yeah, Harajuku, you know it girl!

[brickcitybrother]

silly is tolerable, stupid isnt

I have to second that motion.

[brickcitybrother]

And people of all genders and sexualities are capable of having an oral fixation. What was that George Carlin joke about cigars? ;)

Another agreement reached :wink:

[TSCURIOUS]

I'm just bored with the GG and the strap-on anymore. That's why I'm exploring this part of my sexuality. I want to feel the real thing. It ahs nothing to do with being gay, straight or whatever - It's what I want-
Thoughts?

[sheyum]

this thread makes me nauseous...why doesn't everyone get a life and stop beating this tired-ass topic into the ground..
i find it absolutely absurd and laughably ironic that the idiot who started this thread--and others like him in all of the inane threads like this that have come before--are so clueless that they make these comments--all the while fucking tss themelves..YOU ARE FUCKING A TRANNY!!!!--but because youre on top--youre straight????
dont get me wrong--you MAY be straight--i believe there are a million possibilities as to why we like what we like- and that labels are pointless--but if youre such a "MAN"--why dont you just fuck a woman..i agree--as someone else mentioned earlier--that if anyone here is the closet-homo--its the guy fucking someone who (lets face it) is genetically male--but insists that because hes on top--hes straight..if youre so fucking straight--just fuck a WOMAN--why the woman with a cock??..
I personally have never had sex of any type with a tranny--but the bottom role is what appeals to me--not because im gay..Im 100percent confident that Im not..but because it turns me on for some reason--i think its the idea of being taken-dominated--but i want it from a woman--or what visually appeals to me as a woman--cause i LIKE WOMEN--i just find some fascination with the cock..am i gay?? I think not..how do i know??
cause i have ABSOLUTELY no attraction to ANY man Ive ever met.
Understand--if i was attracted--id fuck a man in a minute--cause I have no problem with homosexuals or homosexuality..i just dont want to do it..
thats how i know im not a closet homo--cause if i wanted to fuck a guy--id do it. Theres noone alive who can convince me that Im gay..and if i were--it would be fine!!!!
you see-there are alot of reasons why a person might like an alternative situation to straight sex,,Mine is just one scenario..each of us is different.
why do these idiots INSIST on classifiying everyone?? could it be that THEY are closet homosexuals?? heavens!!!!!!

[ezed]

My point is that I don`t understand the guys who say that they are str8, but love "chicks with dicks", are NOT attracted to MEN, see TS/TG as woman but then take the FEMALE role with the TS/TG woman that they are attracted to??

Why does a man EVER take the female role??? I don`t understand it?

:wink: Well Tom let me answer that for you. In ancient Sumeria, about 5000BC a man walked up to a Yak, who liked to yak so the man assumed the Yak was gay and to be avoided. So the man turned and walked away .... but the Yak quickly mounted him.....WAIT A FUCKING MINUTE! WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON HERE! THIS FUCKING FORUM IS A REMAKE OF THE MOVIE "GROUNDHOG DAY" EVERYTIME I CHECK IT'S A RERUN OF THE DAY BEFORE! I'VE ADDRESS THIS QUESTION A NUMBER OF TIMES AND IT KEEPS COMINIG UP! (So to speak). :? I'm going on to the next thread, maybe this day will end. :cry: Or maybe, just maybe, mind you, there will be a pic of a beautiful girl pounding a guy while using his tool as a joystick.... :D My label - "Proud to be hard and thank you to all you girls who make it possible!" or "INSEPECTED BY 4578"

[Hugh Jarrod]

My point is that I don`t understand the guys who say that they are str8, but love "chicks with dicks", are NOT attracted to MEN, see TS/TG as woman but then take the FEMALE role with the TS/TG woman that they are attracted to??

Why does a man EVER take the female role??? I don`t understand it?

:wink: Well Tom let me answer that for you. In ancient Sumeria, about 5000BC a man walked up to a Yak, who liked to yak so the man assumed the Yak was gay and to be avoided. So the man turned and walked away .... but the Yak quickly mounted him.....WAIT A FUCKING MINUTE! WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON HERE! THIS FUCKING FORUM IS A REMAKE OF THE MOVIE "GROUNDHOG DAY" EVERYTIME I CHECK IT'S A RERUN OF THE DAY BEFORE! I'VE ADDRESS THIS QUESTION A NUMBER OF TIMES AND IT KEEPS COMINIG UP! (So to speak). :? I'm going on to the next thread, maybe this day will end. :cry: Or maybe, just maybe, mind you, there will be a pic of a beautiful girl pounding a guy while using his tool as a joystick.... :D My label - "Proud to be hard and thank you to all you girls who make it possible!" or "INSEPECTED BY 4578"

LOL! Funny as all hell ezed.

[ezed]

[quote=TominNYC]


LOL! Funny as all hell ezed.

Thanks Hugh Jarrod!

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

yeah that shit was fucking hilarious
LOL

[ezed]

yeah that shit was fucking hilarious
LOL

Thanks, it came to me in the night as many things do. :wink:

[Andrew Johnson]

I have been into TGirls since I was 22 years old back in 1992. I discovered Sallys and Edelwiess in NYC and had great fun for years. I loved meeting the TG girls, having a good time and treating them like woman sexually (me on top). In 95 I got into a live -in relationship with a GG until 2002 and was basicially out of the TG scene. After I became single again 3 years ago I re-discovered Tgirls from the internet (shemaleyum).

What shocks me today after reading SER, this forum, and other TG forums is the fact that most guys who are into TG`s want to bottom??? I don`t understand that?? My TS friend who is an escort tells me that 80% of the guys shes sees want to get f_@ked??? Thats shocking to me ??

My point is that I don`t understand the guys who say that they are str8, but love "chicks with dicks", are NOT attracted to MEN, see TS/TG as woman but then take the FEMALE role with the TS/TG woman that they are attracted to??

Why does a man EVER take the female role??? I don`t understand it?

Ahh!!!!!!!! The joy of internet message boards.

I've been lurking on this board for a while now, and only recently started posting. Here's my 2 cents on this one...

Most people in our society are more comfortable if they put everything into a nice, neat little box. (Straight, bi, gay, top, bottom, etc...and anything and everything else for that matter)

I don't care about neat little boxes. Everything is what it is. No need to define and box it up.

There certainly is no reason for any one to understand everything anyone else does or feels. I don't think anything in life is as cut and dry as some would like it to be.