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www.tglovers.com
11-08-2010, 04:11 PM
I thought this was a really cool story.

If only every family was this understanding! (http://cerebraldiva.blogspot.com/2010/11/when-little-boys-want-to-dress-up-like.html)

LaCosa
11-08-2010, 04:29 PM
I thought this was a really cool story.

If only every family was this understanding! (http://cerebraldiva.blogspot.com/2010/11/when-little-boys-want-to-dress-up-like.html)


I just read the little article on your link. I don't have time to watch the video right now.

I don't think little boys should be dressing as girls. I also don't think it's good parental guidance to assist and encourage a small child to do such a thing.

I'm not sure what age is appropriate. It also p[probably depends on the individual. But I would approximate the age range to be in a boys teenage years where his autonomy of choice to dress as a girl on Halloween probably should be respected.

Children in general lack autonomy and self realization. Few adults ever obtain a significant level of self realization. But most of us in our late teens begin the process (I emphasize "begin") - generally it takes us till our 30's to actually better grasp ourselves independent from our social settings/influences.

I also don't buy into this notion a child knows they are a boy or girl even at age 1 by some "boy feeling" or "girl feeling."

I recall being confused about what my sex should be as a very young child because most adults confused me for a girl (long curly hair, big eye lashes etc). I knew I was a boy only because that was what I was told I was. I never had any boy or girl "feelings." And I was largely asexual as a child as most small children are (why they run around unashamed butt naked).

www.tglovers.com
11-08-2010, 04:38 PM
I just read the little article on your link. I don't have time to watch the video right now.

I don't think little boys should be dressing as girls. I also don't think it's good parental guidance to assist and encourage a small child to do such a thing.

I'm not sure what age is appropriate. It also p[probably depends on the individual. But I would approximate the age range to be in a boys teenage years where his autonomy of choice to dress as a girl on Halloween probably should be respected.

Children in general lack autonomy and self realization. Few adults ever obtain a significant level of self realization. But most of us in our late teens begin the process (I emphasize "begin") - generally it takes us till our 30's to actually better grasp ourselves independent from our social settings/influences.

I also don't buy into this notion a child knows they are a boy or girl even at age 1 by some "boy feeling" or "girl feeling."

I recall being confused about what my sex should be as a very young child because most adults confused me for a girl (long curly hair, big eye lashes etc). I knew I was a boy only because that was what I was told I was. I never had any boy or girl "feelings." And I was largely asexual as a child as most small children are (why they run around unashamed butt naked).

How is dressing up going to hurt him. The problem isn't with the child the problem is with the narrow minded perceptions of society.

How is dressing up a little boy like a girl any different from letting him dress up as a cop or police officer? Either way he's pretending. That's what kids do....they pretend.

I think its great and I think the parents are terrific.

raiku9909
11-08-2010, 05:09 PM
yeah I came across this story on twitter. Sucks for the kid that he could be so excited by the idea originally and then so easily pick up on the fact that he might be ridiculed for it even before going out in public. Kids absorb so much that it's frightening. Still, kudos to the mom for letting him do what he wanted to do. Harmless if you ask me, except for the other parents, who seem pretty toxic.

LaCosa
11-09-2010, 12:32 AM
How is dressing up going to hurt him. The problem isn't with the child the problem is with the narrow minded perceptions of society.

How is dressing up a little boy like a girl any different from letting him dress up as a cop or police officer? Either way he's pretending. That's what kids do....they pretend.

I think its great and I think the parents are terrific.


From a moral or ethical stand point I view the parents as willfully neglectful. Along similar lines of pacifists raising their young children in inner city Detroit to be pacifists rather than understanding a Darwinian approach to fitness in urban habitats.

How we dress matters in so far as it is used to communicate a message about us to other humans. Police officers - excepted the plain clothed cops - have a distinctive look so that they are readily identifiable. Young boys would be better served pretending to be male. By that I mean members of the male gender. Biological women are female regardless of how they dress - they can be entirely naked and still be female. They have the female gender in so far as their behaviors and even dress model social standards of what qualifies as specifically the feminine gender. In contemporary terms that would be clothing like skirts or certain architectural styles of shorts and trousers.

(Trousers were adopted in the West from nomadic horseman of the East like the Scythians. Prior to that most men of the Western white world wore skirts and or robes or togas. "Who wears the pants in the house" is reference to the once masculine gendered association of trousers, until women began breaking gender rules)

Contemporary culture is confused on gender issues. Concepts like to be a "lady" or "gentleman" had specific reference to a group of separate gender attributes. One of the most confused and asinine concepts of contemporary time (post 1960's when men and women began wear jeans as casual attire - girls going to high school wore dresses as if they were attending a Sunday Protestant Church service, just look at photographs of "The Little Rock Eight") is that a male is suppose to treat a female who wears American football padding, uniform, and participates and dresses in the norms of the male gender, as a "lady." She is not a lady and ought be treated as a member of the male gender. Men that act womanish ought be treated as members of the female gender. And any m2f transsexual is female in gender, from the painted toes to the lipstick.

This boys father should be instilling in this kid masculinity and how to survive around other men.

Of course there is only so much influencing a parent can do and at some point of age, a parent ought increasingly respect the increasing autonomy of a child. Grade school is too young for a boy child to be dressing in public as a girl. Though, I'll have to admit, because it was Halloween which promotes theater and pretending, the girl custom was not entirely inappropriate.

Bear in mind we do not respect the autonomy of people under 18 years of age in the United States and place coercive governmental restrictions on them (we deny them the right to vote also). A 7 year old boy or girl just can't walk into a tattoo parlor and receive a tattoo. A parent giving a glass of beer to a 14 year old child might be subject to a fine or jail sentence. And corporal punishment of children is still regarded as permissible in many American states.

Autonomy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autonomy)


Autonomy (Ancient Greek: αὐτονομία autonomia from αὐτόνομος autonomos from αὐτο- auto- "self" + νόμος nomos, "law" "one who gives oneself their own law") is a concept found in moral, political, and bioethical philosophy. Within these contexts, it refers to the capacity of a rational individual to make an informed, un-coerced decision. In moral and political philosophy, autonomy is often used as the basis for determining moral responsibility for one's actions. One of the best known philosophical theories of autonomy was developed by Kant. In medicine, respect for the autonomy of patients is an important goal, though it can conflict with a competing ethical principle, namely beneficence. Politically, it is also used to refer to the self-government of the people.

www.tglovers.com
11-09-2010, 03:43 AM
From a moral or ethical stand point I view the parents as willfully neglectful. Along similar lines of pacifists raising their young children in inner city Detroit to be pacifists rather than understanding a Darwinian approach to fitness in urban habitats.

How we dress matters in so far as it is used to communicate a message about us to other humans. Police officers - excepted the plain clothed cops - have a distinctive look so that they are readily identifiable. Young boys would be better served pretending to be male. By that I mean members of the male gender. Biological women are female regardless of how they dress - they can be entirely naked and still be female. They have the female gender in so far as their behaviors and even dress model social standards of what qualifies as specifically the feminine gender. In contemporary terms that would be clothing like skirts or certain architectural styles of shorts and trousers.

(Trousers were adopted in the West from nomadic horseman of the East like the Scythians. Prior to that most men of the Western white world wore skirts and or robes or togas. "Who wears the pants in the house" is reference to the once masculine gendered association of trousers, until women began breaking gender rules)

Contemporary culture is confused on gender issues. Concepts like to be a "lady" or "gentleman" had specific reference to a group of separate gender attributes. One of the most confused and asinine concepts of contemporary time (post 1960's when men and women began wear jeans as casual attire - girls going to high school wore dresses as if they were attending a Sunday Protestant Church service, just look at photographs of "The Little Rock Eight") is that a male is suppose to treat a female who wears American football padding, uniform, and participates and dresses in the norms of the male gender, as a "lady." She is not a lady and ought be treated as a member of the male gender. Men that act womanish ought be treated as members of the female gender. And any m2f transsexual is female in gender, from the painted toes to the lipstick.

This boys father should be instilling in this kid masculinity and how to survive around other men.

Of course there is only so much influencing a parent can do and at some point of age, a parent ought increasingly respect the increasing autonomy of a child. Grade school is too young for a boy child to be dressing in public as a girl. Though, I'll have to admit, because it was Halloween which promotes theater and pretending, the girl custom was not entirely inappropriate.

Bear in mind we do not respect the autonomy of people under 18 years of age in the United States and place coercive governmental restrictions on them (we deny them the right to vote also). A 7 year old boy or girl just can't walk into a tattoo parlor and receive a tattoo. A parent giving a glass of beer to a 14 year old child might be subject to a fine or jail sentence. And corporal punishment of children is still regarded as permissible in many American states.

Autonomy - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autonomy)

I'm not a parent but at one point in my life, I was in shoes very similar to the ones that this young person may walk in one day. I didn't want to hear about Darwin, autonomy or any other psychobabble. I wanted the unconditional love and support of my family.

I don't want you to think I'm dismissing your points because I can understand your position.

I wish I had more time to really dig into this subject the way I want to but unfortunately...I'm pressed for time.


Clothing is but a shell. Its what's inside that counts.

natina
11-09-2010, 08:52 AM
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TSMichelleAustin
11-09-2010, 08:56 AM
This topic is so stupid.... I dressed up as a girl when I was kid for halloween 3 times after 3 time I think my dad had a problem but it never made my parents or myself bad! I think kids should express themselves in anyway they feel fit. Kids dont understand sexuality, gender or any of the things that society says is wrong! They are just going with what makes them happy! That is why they dont judge!!! They act the way they act to others when they get older because how they see adults act!

natina
11-09-2010, 09:30 AM
you grew up to be a TS/tg and AND THATS WHAT THE PUBLIC IS AFRAID OF

another one this time making national news 3 ++ million blog views and nation tv news

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This topic is so stupid.... I dressed up as a girl when I was kid for halloween 3 times after 3 time I think my dad had a problem but it never made my parents or myself bad! I think kids should express themselves in anyway they feel fit. Kids dont understand sexuality, gender or any of the things that society says is wrong! They are just going with what makes them happy! That is why they dont judge!!! They act the way they act to others when they get older because how they see adults act!

TSMichelleAustin
11-09-2010, 10:11 AM
but this person in here LaCosa says its wrong.... which is funny cuz they are in a transgendered forum is all I am saying! I can understand the people in the world that dont get it and are ignorant but someone in this forum saying its wrong is stupid! I guess I should of said that.