I tried dating a transexual but.......

[ShaunMoore]

just trying to hear some of the common obstacles faced by men who try dating transexuals but......something always strange happens.

In my experience, men who are new to transexuals face a serious learning curve.

[LaCosa]

just trying to hear some of the common obstacles faced by men who try dating transexuals but......something always strange happens.

In my experience, men who are new to transexuals face a serious learning curve.

Like how?

This may seem like a stupid question - although they say the only stupid question is one not asked - but is it likely and plausible for a transsexual girl to get fucked in her ass daily? I mean like every single day? If so how does the girl respond? I mean is it hurtful and a bit traumatic for her or more on the scale of enjoyable?

Like I said it might seem like a stupid question, but I honestly don't know.

By the way... I'm sitting here as I type looking at another Ashley George ad, this one of her pretty little face. The desire of me to lay atop of her, and squeeze my fat dick into her ass, is probably inspiring this question. :lol:

[ShaunMoore]

You are an example of why transexual women feel forced into the sex industry. I feel sorry for you.

[Ryz]

You are an example of why transexual women feel forced into the sex industry. I feel sorry for you.

Haha it's a shame

[Instrumental]

something always strange happens.

Confirmation bias maybe. You hear the troubling stories and they stick in your head meanwhile the people in normal relationships don't have much to say because... they're in a normal steady relationship and don't have anything notable to say.

[LaCosa]

You are an example of why transexual women feel forced into the sex industry. I feel sorry for you.

Oh come on homie... if you get a chance to read more of my posts you'll see I have a fundamental respect for the human dignity of all people, and that includes transsexuals, prostitutes, or guitar players.

But unless you're a Catholic theologian, you accept (rather than simply acknowledge but disagree with) that just about all human sexual relations objectify all persons that are objects of desire. At least to some degree.

Furthermore, lets not be naive. Ashley more - or biological women from middle-class upbringing - stripping in exotic clubs throughout Las Vegas are into their profession for profit gains.

The United States has the largest porn industry in the world. The United States also has one of the strongest feminist political power blocs in the world. Contemporary American women can go to college and become degree candidates for all sorts of fields, therefore, poverty and oppression are not good explanation for the scale of the pornographic industry in the United States.

Likewise, transsexual women operate with moral autonomy when they disregard Judeo-Christian or Buddhist or Hindu concepts of morality and become transsexual and develop a gender opposite their biological sex. It is quite plausible then, given such scale of autonomy, that they could become transsexual "nuns" vowing celibacy and poverty.

But we are sexual creatures. My cock gets hard looking at naked or damn near naked women. Biology and evolution has an explanation why. If I want to listen to Catholic lay people moralize to me about sex then I would go to a Catholic web board. And believe me... everyone of them are as much a "saint" as you are on this pornographic website. (The irony :rolleyes:)

And please... before you start in on "Treating people like 'ladies'" realize first that the concept of "lady" like "gentleman" was specific to something. Gentleman do not visit porn sites and ladies do not publicly expose themselves nor sell sex.

And understand I'm not intending in anything I've said, to besmirch the very attractive Ashley George, or any other transsexual woman on here. I just think it's possible to be many things, such as a woman, mother, wife, lawyer, friend, and yes a sexual object of desire.

Furthermore, to keep it 100, transsexuals themselves on a certain level want to be sexually objectified as female objects for one or more man to want. That's okay. Most people of both biological sexes want the same things for themselves. But if it were not the case for transsexual women as to what I'm saying... they would not make their bodies look like women. An effeminate gay man or a butch lesbian are the opposite gender of their biological sex - you don't have to become transsexual to express yourself as a gender contradictory to your biological sex. And one might query what a "woman" is anyways? Painted toes, a knock out ass, wearing dresses? Men wore skirts before trousers (which men of the European West adopted from nomadic tribes men of the East like the Scythians) and Harriet Tubman probably expressed a contradiction to your presumptions of what makes a "woman."

Personally, I like the idea of women (or even gay men perhaps :lol:) desiring the aesthetics of my body and wanting to fuck the hell out of me. It was one of the larger reasons why I used to lift weights.

[Niccolo]

Something strange always happens, like taking it up the ass, maybe? That would qualify as a 'steep learning curve' if you haven't done it before.

[hwbs]

I think there are a lot of reasons girls get in the sex indusrty but I am sure its not cause of some bad dating experiences...

[tsparisangelline]

no difference between dating a ts and a real woman if they have self-esteem

[MrsKellyPierce]

I think society in general with all of it's hate and degradation play a part in the need for more surgery, more femininity. Men do tend to put a bad taste in a lot of girls mouth because of the escorting and being treated second class. A secret, a fetish, a playtoy, or more.

Many girls don't trust men and have hate for them....

Plus many girls like escorting and porn as a profession. They would rather do that than work 9 to 5. While others do it to pay for surgeries, transition, and billls. Then you have girls who do it for attention and a feel of power. Then there is girls that do it only because they have no other option. Then you have girls who again love it. Then there are girls who get addicted to the fast money and are addicted to shopping and surgery. They know they won't be able to lead that lifestyle any other way unless they have a sugar daddy. There are all different types of reasons. I think it depends on the transsexuals character.

[Mari_Mar]

no difference between dating a ts and a real woman if they have self-esteem

We are "real" women. Hence the lack of difference...

[Mari_Mar]

Many girls don't trust men and have hate for them....

TOTALLY!!! I hated, and refused to date men for a year before bumping into my bf. I felt subjected to all of those things you described, and I never have been an escort... just a slut... :whistle:

[MrsKellyPierce]

lol Mari! I really think most men into transsexuals especially the beginning ones need time to accept themselves. I think many girls should try dating with out SEX for at least two to three months. So they see you as a person and a woman before hand. You give it up too fast they will move on to the next.

[Mari_Mar]

I think many girls should try dating with out SEX for at least two to three months. So they see you as a person and a woman before hand. You give it up too fast they will move on to the next.

Yeah, but that doesn't seem very likely to EVER happen. There's just too much validation as a woman, when dudes are throwing themselves at you, to get in your panties. I think most girls, particularly girls who are new to transition, would fold to that temptation.

I know I did.

[LaCosa]

I think there are a lot of reasons girls get in the sex indusrty but I am sure its not cause of some bad dating experiences...

Yeah... you may be right. And I'm not trying to suggest a series of negative dating experiences or negative experiences in general with men, can't motivate some women into joining the sex industry.

Of course... for any heterosexual male or transsexual that posts on "Hung Angles" a website with porn content, and expresses dismay at girls entering the sex industry a question might follow. In the absence of Judeo-Christian morality, why the dismay, especially on a website dedicated to sexual objectifying male-to-female transsexuals? Guilt? Subconscious telling one they are involved in or supporting something morally repugnant?

I'm perfectly at ease with why a transsexual's cock might get hard (maybe from seeing me naked in a hot shower?) or why my own cock might get hard - and it's not from reading a fuckin poem. I like tits and ass, so sue me.

Biological girl or male-to-female transsexual, if you're my girlfriend or wife, your going to be taking my dick on a regular. Don't want dick on regular, or don't want to be the object of desire of a swollen, stiff dick? Then don't become a girlfriend or a wife. Become a de facto "nun." Makes perfect fuckin sense to me.

And it never ceases to amaze me how many atheists and agnostics I run into online who are de facto Popes. Darwin and evolutionary science be damned... I have to listen to their over-moralizing about sexual drives instead.

[PapiBear]

one big obstacle was *conversation*. Admittedly, finding a great conversationalist is hard no matter what. But after about the 3rd date I got sick of every conversation coming back to transgender issues. Yes, they are important. But, hey, can we talk about travel, art, or science?

[MrsKellyPierce]

I agree Mari, unfortunately lets face it, a lot of transsexuals are sluts. LOL
There is nothing wrong with that, but don't be surprised when he don't call you back.

[BellaBellucci]

no difference between dating a ts and a real woman if they have self-esteem

:iagree: Seriously, look me up when you finally go transbian. :dancing:

~BB~

[Mari_Mar]

As an atheist myself, I would like to suggest a different path than celibacy. If you don't want to be the object of impalement from a poky cock...

Be a lesbian. :wiggle:

[BellaBellucci]

one big obstacle was *conversation*. Admittedly, finding a great conversationalist is hard no matter what. But after about the 3rd date I got sick of every conversation coming back to transgender issues. Yes, they are important. But, hey, can we talk about travel, art, or science?

OMG, I just broke up with a guy in part because he kept talking about trans issues. :lol:

~BB~

[Mari_Mar]

...but don't be surprised when he don't call you back.

Hahaha! Oh... I was never "surprised..." Most of the time I was counting on it! :praying:

[runround04]

Im sure a transwomen would drive just as crazy a GG, so no difference to me. hahaha

I think it all comes down to the specific 2 people involved, some people get along and some dont.

[MrsKellyPierce]

lol Mari!!!! Yeah some of the douche men that are into us are ridiculous. I was always rude to them when I was single. Especially the big muscle heads. They are always so dumb and annoying. I know girls like having them on their arms to show off and its what they are attracted to. Most girls anyways are attracted to that, but some of them are so god damn dumb and annoying. Like haha look at my bicep...thats nice! Now go away...was always my reaction.

[LaCosa]

I think society in general with all of it's hate and degradation play a part in the need for more surgery, more femininity. Men do tend to put a bad taste in a lot of girls mouth because of the escorting and being treated second class. A secret, a fetish, a playtoy, or more.

Many girls don't trust men and have hate for them....

Well... it seems to me, Kelly, historically and currently people use other people. That includes biological women and transsexuals using men.

Admittedly men more often use women as sexual objects, but women use men as status objects. I even met a transsexual in a club once (a friend of mine is lesbian and we went to a gay club). When I asked her what she likes in a man the first thing out her mouth pertained to money. :rolleyes:

But there are also men and women that look for different things in a partner. And not all men or all women like the same kind of sex or sexual fetishes.

Some women like being slapped on the ass, and fucked hard too. Other women don't. Is one right or wrong? I know what Catholic theology says - it's one of the major reasons the Catholic Church opposes condoms. The Church views it as encouraging a culture to sexually objectify women. And the Church is using sound reason in that belief. Condoms further help single men treat females as ass and not mothers or potential mothers. But I don't come on Hung Angles to have atheists, agnostics, Buddhist, or half-ass Christians conduct the missionary work and preach the Gospel to me. Evolutionary science provides sound reason as to why males hunt and fuck women. And its has everything to do with the male animal objectify the female animals for end purposes of reproduction of the species - or in atheist Richard Dawkins theory... genes attempting to reproduce themselves.

So, LaCosa wanting to squeeze his dick into the very sexy and feminine Ashly George, is an amoral (meaning not moral) issue as far as evolutionary science and biology are concerned.



Plus many girls like escorting and porn as a profession. They would rather do that than work 9 to 5. While others do it to pay for surgeries, transition, and billls. Then you have girls who do it for attention and a feel of power. Then there is girls that do it only because they have no other option. Then you have girls who again love it. Then there are girls who get addicted to the fast money and are addicted to shopping and surgery. They know they won't be able to lead that lifestyle any other way unless they have a sugar daddy. There are all different types of reasons. I think it depends on the transsexuals character.

I think Michael Jackson was addicted to cosmetic surgery and the first black male to become a white woman in world history. LOL!

[Mari_Mar]

lol Mari!!!! Yeah some of the douche men that are into us are ridiculous. I was always rude to them when I was single. Especially the big muscle heads. They are always so dumb and annoying. I know girls like having them on their arms to show off and its what they are attracted to. Most girls anyways are attracted to that, but some of them are so god damn dumb and annoying. Like haha look at my bicep...thats nice! Now go away...was always my reaction.

Hahaha! Would you actually say "now go away..."??? I've never done that! I usually just act super-indifferent, to the point that it fills the air with uncomfortable tension. Like, if a guy tries to shake my hand, I'll pause and give his hand a squeamish glare, then shake it like I'm bothered by the exchange. I'll stare at my iPhone, and talk to the guy without turning to make eye contact.

I like making guys with bloated egos feel small and insignificant, when/if they try to hit on me. I've actually gotten even more cruel since being in a relationship. It's kind of bad... But... whatevs...

[MrsKellyPierce]

You can't really base your whole opinion on a transsexual at a club. Transsexuals that are at clubs are normally there to escort, unless they are at a straight club. Then they are trying to score straight cock.

I agree women use men just as much for money and security, but what I was talking about is the escorting gets to them. It messes with their head. It makes them hate men. Many strippers have said the same thing after stripping for years. Men disgust them.

Plus a lot of girls try to date men for love, but get mad when the guy wants them as a secret.

Then you have the escort who tries to date for love, and then gets mad when the man wont support she escorts.

Every situation is different, and you are basing your facts off trans-woman you met. Not every girl has that character. It just seems rampant, because you mostly find your transsexuals in the porn niche.

I don't think you saying that about Ashley George is immoral. I think she is a pornstar, and you are a guy who is a fan of her porn. You are supposed to feel that way. HOWEVER if you were trying to date her...I wouldn't say that would be the way to approach her.

[MrsKellyPierce]

Yes, girl I would! I would say worse things than that.....

When I went to club it was mainly to dance..I didn't want to be bothered with some creep trying to get down my pants at the end of the night. I knew that's why he was there. I was never subtle. I find they just don't get the point otherwise, and they keep talking!

[LaCosa]

As an atheist myself, I would like to suggest a different path than celibacy. If you don't want to be the object of impalement from a poky cock...

Be a lesbian. :wiggle:

Well... there is that option too. That's presuming human sexual orientation is malleable and can even be altered out of motivations of antagonism against the opposite sex, rather than being a matter of impenetrable genetic constitution, as the socio-political gay advocates like to urge.

But I think my only point was, Mari, respectfully, that regardless of gender or sexual orientation or lack of religiosity, one can take on a personal life a celibacy. One doesn't have to be a Buddhist monk or Trappist monk to be a vegetarian, no what I'm saying?

[Mari_Mar]

Some women like being slapped on the ass, and fucked hard too. Other women don't. Is one right or wrong?

YES!!! Those "Other women" are clearly out of their goddamned fucking minds!

[Mari_Mar]

Well... there is that option too. That's presuming human sexual orientation is malleable and can even be altered out of motivations of antagonism against the opposite sex, rather than being a matter of impenetrable genetic constitution, as the socio-political gay advocates like to urge.

But I think my only point was, Mari, respectfully, that regardless of gender or sexual orientation or lack of religiosity, one can take on a personal life a celibacy. One doesn't have to be a Buddhist monk or Trappist monk to be a vegetarian, no what I'm saying?

Well, I'm nothing if not an advocate to the socio-political gay agenda. So... yeah... I guess either way you slice it... straight people are fucked... (or I guess "not fucked," which in itself is fucked...) :???:

[Mari_Mar]

I find they just don't get the point otherwise, and they keep talking!

Yeah... I know what you mean. I can't tell you how many times I've tried to subtly blow a guy off, and ultimately ended up having to scream at him in order to get him to leave me alone.

One time, a guy was so annoying and full of himself that I abruptly cut him off by excitedly exclaiming "Are you going to rape me and beat me to death in a back alley somewhere!!!!" The room went silent and stared at us. The guy lowered his chin and nervously walked out of the room.

HAHAHAHA!

[LaCosa]

You can't really base your whole opinion of a transsexual at a club. Transsexuals that are at clubs are normally there to escort, unless they are at a straight club. Then they are trying to score straight cock.

Oh no! I wasn't meaning to imply I was judging all transsexuals from that one girl. Actually she seemed to be a nice person. She just was looking for a guy that has lots of bread. And that's not me. :lol:

And for the record... I have no problem with trans girls trying to "score straight cock." :lol:



I agree women use men just as much for money and security, but what I was talking about is the escorting gets to them. It messes with their head. It makes them hate men. Many strippers have said the same thing after stripping for years. Men disgust them.

Plus a lot of girls try to date men for love, but get mad when the guy wants them as a secret.

Ah! I see what you are saying. Yes, I can see how that could happen. I think the same thing most happen to prostitutes too. I think gay male prostitutes might feel similar towards men after a while.

It's one thing for a person to see you as many different things or a person capable of many different roles. It's another thing when all the man ever sees you as is a mere fuck toy.



I don't think you saying that about Ashley George is immoral. I think she is a pornstar, and you are a guy who is a fan of her porn. You are supposed to feel that way. HOWEVER if you were trying to date her...I wouldn't say that would be the way to approach her.

Error, Kelly, dear. :) I haven't really seen any of Ashley George's porn. I see her add pop up all the time on this site. I've also visited her website and watched her intro video (which I was very pleased with I might add LOL). That's about it. Ashley is completely new to me. I don't follow her (can't be called a "fan") and haven't seen any of her porn really. But her ads on this site are promoting an overt sexual objectification of her. Halle Berry and Ashley George, two women in film, both promoting different images of themselves. If any woman keeps parading herself butt naked before a man, the guy is going to think about stick his dick in her. That's just the way it is.

If someone has an issue with that they can take it up with "mother nature" and evolutionary science, and get off my balls.

[LaCosa]

YES!!! Those "Other women" are clearly out of their goddamned fucking minds!

LMAO!!!!!!! Oh boy... that had me rolling! :)

[arnie666]

Just because I treat a ladyboy escort as a playtoy, doesn't mean I don't treat them extremely well. In fact I would say I treat them better than I have women I date.

At the end of the day ,women and men use each other, whether money is directly changing hands for a few hours or not. Just because someone escorts, doesn't mean, they shouldn't get treated with respect, just as you should for anyone carrying out a service for you. And neither should all men who visit escorts be sterotyped either. It's all very well and understandable a ladyboy saying that guys have little understanding of what they go through,but on the other side of it, unless you are in or have walked in the shoes of men who visit ladyboy escorts, then it is wrong to pontificate.

[LaCosa]

Arnie! That signature of yours is awesome! :) Man, that had me seriously LMAO. I'm going to have to steal it. Was it from some novel you read?

Oh, and I agree with you about interactions between escort and client. I've never had sex with a transsexual or paid one as an escort. But whether the working girl (or boy in the case of gay or bisexual males) is a biological girl or a transsexual, I see no reason why people can't treat each other with a little human respect?

Last night a friend of mine came down the block in tears and shaken up. She has the tattoos from a former gang life, she prostitutes, and is drug addicted. She's no pussy in other words. But whatever violence she witnessed one or more men dishing out on some woman she knew had to have been on level brutal enough to traumatize her. My guys and I where outside. This happened right down the block. I don't know if the woman was beaten to death or not. But I'm happy my friend made it to us. Had those cats came down towards us looking for her they would either have had to draw guns or go knuckle to knuckle with us.

[TSMichelleAustin]

First Kelly, my bf that I am with we had sex first date and we are still together for over two years. So I dont think that whole thing about sex ruins his interest in you! Girls who go to clubs are not always escorting.... I dont ever escort when out, I go out to be with friends and have a good time. If a tranny chaser approaches me I tell him an outrageous price if he wants me. So they leave me alone. I go out to have fun, not to work, if I wanted to work Id stay home.

I think everyone is sexual to an extent be it paying for it or going out and getting it.

[DL_NL]

I've had two relationships with T-girls, both unfortunately cut short (by Immigration and extreme homesickness, respectively) but didn't find the relationships by themselves different from relationships with GGs.

[alyssaluxor]

I think there are a lot of reasons girls get in the sex indusrty but I am sure its not cause of some bad dating experiences...

the number reason why I ended up being in the adult industry is because of a lot of bad dating experiences ;)

[alyssaluxor]

no difference between dating a ts and a real woman if they have self-esteem



lol Mari! I really think most men into transsexuals especially the beginning ones need time to accept themselves. I think many girls should try dating with out SEX for at least two to three months. So they see you as a person and a woman before hand. You give it up too fast they will move on to the next.

:iagree::iagree::iagree:

[IsuckTgirlCock]

I just dated a smoking hott tgirl for months. Takes alot of patience and alot of money to date a tgirl. Its a whole new world of dating cuz the normal rules of dating regular gurls dont carry over to tgirls.

[MrsKellyPierce]

Michelle I meant the girls at the tranny parties/clubs, and I think that situation is rare...that you are in.

[Ryz]

I just dated a smoking hott tgirl for months. Takes alot of patience and alot of money to date a tgirl. Its a whole new world of dating cuz the normal rules of dating regular gurls dont carry over to tgirls.

I've spent more money when I had a genetic girlfriend then on my TS girlfriend. Well actually they both had their own money, but the TS just had more :shrug

[Ryz]

If I have sex with a girl on the first date, I am not taking it any further. If she has sex with me on the first date most likely shes having sex with everyone else.

[alyssaluxor]

If I have sex with a girl on the first date, I am not taking it any further. If she has sex with me on the first date most likely shes having sex with everyone else.

FUCK me NOW!!!

:kiss:

[MrsKellyPierce]

^^^^ amen! Ryz!!

[Jericho]

I can't tell you how many times I've tried to subtly blow a guy off!


:lol:
I know it's childish but, this amuses me! :whistle:

[tsparisangelline]

lol @ ryz

so true

*pulls out magnums*

[Ryz]

FUCK me NOW!!!

:kiss:
Don't you want to go out for dinner first? ;)


^^^^ amen! Ryz!!
It's the truth haha

lol @ ryz

so true

*pulls out magnums*

I love your new sig :fuckin:

[tsparisangelline]

Don't you want to go out for dinner first? ;)


It's the truth haha


I love your new sig :fuckin:

lol thanks...

[TsVanessa69]

We are "real" women. Hence the lack of difference...
So few men on here and in life have the common sense to realize that

[TsVanessa69]

I've spent more money when I had a genetic girlfriend then on my TS girlfriend. Well actually they both had their own money, but the TS just had more :shrug
Thats usually the case, which is why we can be pickier when it comes to men.

[ed_jaxon]

Dating someone in the industry is totally different that dating someone outside of the industry regardless of gender identification.

Schedules are different, common activities are different and it is generally harder on your body.

Its hard but a helluva lot of fun.

It is a community as well and peeps look out for each other and enjoy hanging with their friends.

Met a lot of good people in this arena.

[Mari_Mar]

Dating someone in the industry is totally different that dating someone outside of the industry regardless of gender identification.

Schedules are different, common activities are different and it is generally harder on your body.

Yeah... I always try to pay my fair share. I start to feel guilty when someone is spending all their money on me. But, then... It also took me forever to learn that when approaching a door with a guy, I need to slow down so he can open it for me.

I can't tell you how many times we would both start reflexively speeding up, because the other person was speeding up, only to awkwardly collide at the door knob.

[PapiBear]

OMG, I just broke up with a guy in part because he kept talking about trans issues. :lol:

~BB~

Yeah, it gets old after a while. I keep thinking of the line, "looks fade, but dumb is forever."

[BellaBellucci]

Yeah, it gets old after a while. I keep thinking of the line, "looks fade, but dumb is forever."

It's really irritating. He kept walking on eggshells around me and I was like, 'just treat me as you would anyone else,' and well, he wasn't a cock bandit but he was definitely obsessed.

~BB~

[rockabilly]

lol "cock bandit" , whenever i see that i get a mental pic of the Hamburglar.

[PapiBear]

It's really irritating. He kept walking on eggshells around me and I was like, 'just treat me as you would anyone else,' and well, he wasn't a cock bandit but he was definitely obsessed.

~BB~

BB~ I'm sure it's hard for a noob. But should that really be your problem? I bet you have a lot going on if he'd have just paid a little attention to what was in front of him.


"cock bandit" , whenever i see that i get a mental pic of the Hamburglar.

LOL RB~ So why do we too often end up with Major MacCheezers?

[BellaBellucci]

BB~ I'm sure it's hard for a noob. But should that really be your problem? I bet you have a lot going on if he'd have just paid a little attention to what was in front of him.

Aww, thank you! I actually didn't have a problem educating him to be honest. The problem was that he was an excruciatingly slow study and had a lot of irritating habits that drove me up the wall, and frankly, I don't have the time to repeat everything 5 times.


LOL RB~ So why do we too often end up with Major MacCheezers?

YouTube - mayor mccheese (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=koHxKqwTDug)

~BB~

[phobun]

It's really irritating. He kept walking on eggshells around me and I was like, 'just treat me as you would anyone else,' and well, he wasn't a cock bandit but he was definitely obsessed.

~BB~


Oh get real of course he was a cock bandit.

[rockabilly]

Oh get real of course he was a cock bandit.

"Hamburglar"

[BellaBellucci]

Oh get real of course he was a cock bandit.

Nope, not this guy. Although to be fair, it's probably because he was too much of a wimp, which is why we're not together anymore. That, and I have a lead, follow, or get out of the way mentality and he just wasn't getting with the program. Any man I'm with has to be at least as strong as me. :geek:

Do you think that's a tall order?

~BB~

[rockabilly]

Well ... how tall are you? :p

[PapiBear]

I have a lead, follow, or get out of the way mentality and he just wasn't getting with the program. Any man I'm with has to be at least as strong as me.
~BB~

Makes perfect sense. Trouble is, most "nice" guys don't get that they're not being nice, they're being manipulative. They're hoping that if they just are inoffensive long enough they'll "get lucky," as if being a wuss is attractive somehow. I guess maybe on some planet people like that. But, eww.

Anyway, BB, I'm sure that you'll meet a real man who is equal to you and who will put you over his knee when you're being a brat.

In the meanwhile, love me that Family Guy

[BellaBellucci]

Anyway, BB, I'm sure that you'll meet a real man who is equal to you and who will put you over his knee when you're being a brat.


YouTube - Mariah Carey - Someday (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4RWfSUWVP2I&ob=av2e)

~BB~

[Mari_Mar]

EEEEEWWWWW!!!! Hahahahahaha!

[PapiBear]

Yeah, playing Mariah counts as being a Brat.

[Basshunter]

Pointless thread. So it's agreed that everybody is different?

[Paladin]

... I'm perfectly at ease with why a transsexual's cock might get hard (maybe from seeing me naked in a hot shower?) or why my own cock might get hard - and it's not from reading a fuckin poem. I like tits and ass, so sue me...

And from reading your posts, it's pretty clear you like COCK as well as T&A :praying:

[Paladin]

FUCK me NOW!!!

:kiss:

If Only I was in Manila :)

[LaCosa]

And from reading your posts, it's pretty clear you like COCK as well as T&A :praying:

Not quite, Paladin. I don't want a transsexual inserting her cock into my rectum. Not sure I care to go down on her either.

In general I prefer seeing transsexuals with penises smaller than mine. My thing - or fetish - with transsexuals is more to do with domination/submission kind of thing. Some might use the word emasculated. Some of the T-girls here might take issue with that as they would probably argue they were always girls while they were in boy bodies, and therefore the concept of them being emasculated in any sense is nonsensical.

Be that as it may, I can only be the man between us. And I can't be with her in public around other men, and other men picking up cues she is in masculine competition with me. Other men don't have to fear me but they must have enough apprehension about crossing me in words or deeds. So, her trying to have a cock battle with me won't do.

(I'm not saying she can't disagree with me or not get angry with me... but she's not going to be dominating me)

[phobun]

In general I prefer seeing transsexuals with penises smaller than mine. My thing - or fetish - with transsexuals is more to do with domination/submission kind of thing. Some might use the word emasculated. Some of the T-girls here might take issue with that as they would probably argue they were always girls while they were in boy bodies, and therefore the concept of them being emasculated in any sense is nonsensical.


Whoa. Some guys write really peculiar fetish-based things like the above, which is at least honest. Because other guys write obviously untrue things like they are attracted to her "fearlessness."

I bet if you sat 100 guys down and gave them truth serum you'd get weird answers like the above in most cases. And it is because of these weird motivations for liking transgenders that most guys are on the D.L. Most guys keep their relationships with transgenders secret because of what those relationships mean for them... they don't want the strange truth about their peculiar fetishes to get out.

I think this emphasizes how in most cases a real relationship will be impossible between a guy who chases transgenders and a tgirl. Relationships with GGs are not motivated by the same sorts of peculiar fetishes.

[phobun]

I dated a really gorgeous Tgirl a few years ago for several months. We weren't 100% exclusive so at the same time I was dating a GG. In the end the time came to choose which girl to be exclusive with and I wound up choosing the GG but not for any Tgirl related reasons. Although I will admit that if I had chosen the TGirl I'd probably have kept it from my parents. Just too much potential drama there to be avoided.


Was she not passable? If she was passable, why is it necessary for your parents to know every detail of her personal history (i.e., that she is transgender)? If parents ever started hinting for grandkids, just say "Sorry mom and dad, she can't have kids because of a medical problem." That could be anything, and her medical record is really none of their business.

Of course, some girls want to pointlessly flash their transgender badge in front of the guy's faminly as a measure of how accepting they are.

[shemale-411]

Whoa. Some guys write really peculiar fetish-based things like the above, which is at least honest.I think this emphasizes how in most cases a real relationship will be impossible between a guy who chases transgenders and a tgirl. Relationships with GGs are not motivated by the same sorts of peculiar fetishes.

And anyone who so absolutely fetishizes post-op vagina as you do can pretty much apply the same measure to your chances of ever having a relationship.

[phobun]

And anyone who so absolutely fetishizes post-op vagina as you do can pretty much apply the same measure to your chances of ever having a relationship.


Oh I don't absolutely fetishize post-op vagina... there are tons of unattractive beasts running around who happen to have post-op vaginas and they are of no interest to me.

It's the complete package, just as with any girl. Same as with a GG, you might think about her honey pot, but only if the rest of her is also appealing.

[BellaBellucci]

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~BB~

[LaCosa]

Whoa. Some guys write really peculiar fetish-based things like the above, which is at least honest. Because other guys write obviously untrue things like they are attracted to her "fearlessness."

I bet if you sat 100 guys down and gave them truth serum you'd get weird answers like the above in most cases. And it is because of these weird motivations for liking transgenders that most guys are on the D.L. Most guys keep their relationships with transgenders secret because of what those relationships mean for them... they don't want the strange truth about their peculiar fetishes to get out.

I think this emphasizes how in most cases a real relationship will be impossible between a guy who chases transgenders and a tgirl. Relationships with GGs are not motivated by the same sorts of peculiar fetishes.

There are plenty of fetishes fantasized or being lived out between the heterosexual male, heterosexual female couples.

In fact most heterosexual relationships with biological women use some domination/submission play. The doggy style and pulling of hair is not about "equality" but asymmetrical positions of power. This is why Catholicism romanticizes missionary sex absent of oral sex and sodomy within marriages, because it romanticizes the notion of innocence before the "tree of knowledge" and subsequent loss of innocence and the subsequent result of domination vs submission play between men and women in sex. Catholicism believes in the high ideal of "sharing" one another and not using your wife as a mere sexual object.

Darwinian evolution offers a different perspective and its based largely on selfishness of organisms within a population. There are aspects of cooperation and even ultraism too, in evolutionary theory, but within the area of reproduction selfishness is the primary or sole factor of the agents or organisms.

Both Catholicism and and sociology (social science) acknowledge that people can have genders opposite their biological sex. And for the record a man can be gay and have the same gender as his biological sex, he'd just be a masculine gay man. An effeminate gay man or butch lesbian have the opposite gender of their biological sex. All male-to-female transsexuals therefore, have a gender in contradiction to their biological sex.

Catholicism and social science both acknowledge this, but social science makes no judgment, Catholicism does offer moral judgment.

From a strict stand point of evolutionary science... my particular fetish is an amoral issue. It's also probably neither "weird" nor "peculiar" (value judgments) - at least no more so than your frequent visits to this website.




And by the way... there exists a thriving BDSM community or subculture within the heterosexual world.

[fred41]

I think this emphasizes how in most cases a real relationship will be impossible between a guy who chases transgenders and a tgirl. Relationships with GGs are not motivated by the same sorts of peculiar fetishes.

This makes no sense because as someone already pointed out, there are numerous relationships with GGs that involve fetishes.

chubby chasers
guys into huge breasts
couples into multiple partners for multiple reasons
BDSM
foot fetishists

the list goes on and on...

[fred41]

Was she not passable? If she was passable, why is it necessary for your parents to know every detail of her personal history (i.e., that she is transgender)? If parents ever started hinting for grandkids, just say "Sorry mom and dad, she can't have kids because of a medical problem." That could be anything, and her medical record is really none of their business.

Of course, some girls want to pointlessly flash their transgender badge in front of the guy's faminly as a measure of how accepting they are.

Lots of girls want to keep it a secret...but when a couple is very family oriented the truth may easily come out eventually...and sometimes (or not)..the girl may want your family to know...and then you will have to deal with it. Every situation is different.
If the girl doesn't want it told...you should always go with that...but if she did want it told...and I could see why she might want to for whatever personal reasons she may have,...then you're going to have to do that.

[britneymarkham]

im dateing an amazeing guy were moveing in together this weekend i really care so much for him but its obvious he cares alooooot more for me he treats me so amazeing i almost feel like i dont deserve it just becouse men maid me feel like a fantasy for so long but i have no one to blame but me i put my self in this industry i love it and he accepts me so thers guys out ther that really look past the fantasy and start looking at the person for who she or he is.

[SXFX]

she lived an hour away and I wasn't ready to date yet.......shame I really liked her.
Great girl. Maybe I'll get lucky again? Who knows?
Sx

[DL_NL]

That's great to hear, Britney. From your posting, you're not the only one who's in luck. I wish you both all the best.

[phobun]

This makes no sense because as someone already pointed out, there are numerous relationships with GGs that involve fetishes.

chubby chasers
guys into huge breasts
couples into multiple partners for multiple reasons
BDSM
foot fetishists

the list goes on and on...


It's true enough that fetishes exist in the heterosexual world but I doubt that they underlie most heterosexual relationships. A guy might like blondes, long legs or big boobs and that could prompt him to approach a girl, which eventually might lead to a relationship, but that doesn't mean he has a fetish for huge breasts, etc.

[phobun]

Lots of girls want to keep it a secret...but when a couple is very family oriented the truth may easily come out eventually...and sometimes (or not)..the girl may want your family to know...and then you will have to deal with it. Every situation is different.
If the girl doesn't want it told...you should always go with that...but if she did want it told...and I could see why she might want to for whatever personal reasons she may have,...then you're going to have to do that.


Fair points

[blackrob]

Yes, girl I would! I would say worse things than that.....

When I went to club it was mainly to dance..I didn't want to be bothered with some creep trying to get down my pants at the end of the night. I knew that's why he was there. I was never subtle. I find they just don't get the point otherwise, and they keep talking!


so you dont give up the ass on the first night?

[kal-el]

Fair points

I'm sure there a lot of parents would distance themselves from a son dating a transgendered girl, just like there are a lot of parents who feel betrayed when their "son" becomes their "daughter". Me? You? We might be ok with it. But not everyone is gonna be cool with the situation. Its sorta like interracial or mixed religion relationships were looked down upon in the past. If you're lucky enough to find "the right person", you'll be able to deal with whatever life throws your way.

Don't ever throw away true happiness because of what the people around you say or think. If I fall in love with a woman, whether she has a penis or a vagina, she's the woman I love and my friends & family will just have to accept her & I together, or move on from my life. If it's real, she's gotta be the most important thing in my life.

[PapiBear]

I'm sure there a lot of parents would distance themselves from a son dating a transgendered girl

Not necissarily, and even if so, often not permanently. Parents my have certain expecations that don't include having a transgendered girl in the family. But most parents really want to know that they succeeded as parents and that their kids are genuinely happy. As long as it is clear that the couple is in love, the parents will often come around.

There is an adjustment period. It's like people who have planned a trip to Italy finding out that their plane landed in Denmark. It will take a while before they are open to how fabulous a country Denmark is. But eventually Denmark will win them over. And, eventually a fabulous woman will win over most reluctant of parents.

Of course, a less than fabulous woman will run into a parent's reluctance, TG or GG.

Me recommend bringing cookies.