white person is more likely to shot up a school,kill his whole family, serial killer

[natina]

TIM WISE
talks about white violence because of the coping factor
http://stuffwhitepeopledo.blogspot.com/2008/10/suffer-from-privilege-induced-lack-of.html (http://stuffwhitepeopledo.blogspot.com/2008/10/suffer-from-privilege-induced-lack-of.html)



Has Black Friday arrived in America? If so, are you prepared?

Actually, if you're a "white" American, there's a good chance that you're less prepared than other Americans. Emotionally that, is. And mentally. Maybe even physically.

As is so often the case, Tim Wise has explained well this common symptom of learning to be white:

Racism and white privilege/supremacy generates a mindset of entitlement among those in the dominant group. This entitlement mentality can prove dangerous, whenever the expectations of a member of the group are frustrated. Principally this is because such persons develop very weak coping skills as a result of never having to overcome the obstacles that oppressed folks deal with every day and MUST conquer in order to survive.

So, as a result, it is the privileged (the beneficiaries of racism, and also, it should be pointed out, the class system) who are ill-prepared for setback: the loss of a job, stocks taking a nose-dive (who were the folks jumping out the windows in the great depression–not poor folks and folks of color, but rich whites who couldn’t handle being broke!) Likewise, if you look at the various personal pathologies that tend to be disproportionate in the white community (and upper middle class for that matter), they are interesting in that they all are about control–controlling one’s anxiety, emotional pain, or controlling and dominating others–like suicide, substance abuse, eating disorders, self-injury/mutilation, serial killing and mass murder (as opposed to just regular one-on-one homicide), sexual sadism killings, etc.

Not knowing how the world works is dangerous. White privilege and racism allow the dominant group to live in a bubble of unreality. Most days that’s no big deal I suppose. But every now and then reality intrudes on you and if you haven’t been expecting it, the trauma is magnified. So, when 9/11 happened, millions of whites were running around saying “why do they hate us?” because whites have never had to see our nation the way others do–we’ve been able to live in la-la land.

But folks of color didn’t say this, because those without privilege HAVE to know what others think about them. Not to do so is to be in perpetual danger. So whites flipped out, and by virtue of being unprepared, pushed for a policy response (war) that folks of color were HIGHLY skeptical of from the beginning. But whites, enthralled by our sense of righteousness (itself a manifestation of privilege), pushed forward, convinced that the war in Iraq would go swimmingly. How’s that working out?
In other words, racism and privilege generate mentalities and policies that are dysfunctional, even deadly for whites as with folks of color. Folks of color are the first victims, to be sure, and the worst. But as someone else said, what goes around. . .
Privilege creates a false sense of security. Being the dominant group can set you up for a fall, can prevent you from building up the coping skills needed to deal with setback, because so often those skills are ones you just don't need.
Until you do, that is.


[This quotation is adapted from two sources: a comment Tim Wise wrote at Resist Racism (http://resistracism.wordpress.com/2007/10/29/how-does-racism-harm-white-people/), and one of his books, White Like Me: Reflections on Race from a Privileged Son (http://www.powells.com/biblio/1-9781933368993-0). Lyrics (http://www.steelydan.com/lyrkaty.html#track1) for Steely Dan's song "Black Friday"]



This is a clip from The Pathology of Privilege: Racism, White Denial & the Costs of Inequality, the newly released video from the Media Education Foundation. The video is of a speech given by Tim Wise at Mt. Holyoke College, October 1, 2007.



The Pathology of Privilege: Racism, White Denial & the Costs of Inequality
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3Xe1kX7Wsc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3Xe1kX7Wsc)


http://www.redroom.com/video/tim-wise-creation-whiteness-clip (http://www.redroom.com/video/tim-wise-creation-whiteness-clip)


more complete video but has relatedlinks/urls and related to more of his speakings/lectures

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-VEWJncnsk&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-VEWJncnsk&feature=related)



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UJlNRODZHA&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UJlNRODZHA&feature=related)


Tim Wise-institutional racism, labor, prison education
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-VEWJncnsk&NR=1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-VEWJncnsk&NR=1)


affirmative action /school bias white people have affimative action to


YouTube - white people have affimative action to (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0irqMXsiXx0)



“Colorblindness,” “Illuminated Individualism,” Poor Whites, and Mad Men: The Tim Wise Interview, Part 1


http://www.racialicious.com/2010/09/09/%E2%80%9Ccolorblindness%E2%80%9D-%E2%80%9Cilluminated-individualism%E2%80%9D-poor-whites-and-mad-men-the-tim-wise-interview-part-1/ (http://www.racialicious.com/2010/09/09/%E2%80%9Ccolorblindness%E2%80%9D-%E2%80%9Cilluminated-individualism%E2%80%9D-poor-whites-and-mad-men-the-tim-wise-interview-part-1/)

[AmyDaly]

whats the point of this thread?

[princevince89]

whats the point of this thread?

lol yea really

[natina]

coping skills


there are so many threads here about not dating black men and black men are this and that and black ts are ugly ans so on ....
yada yada yada........

so this is to temper



http://www.timwise.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/dvd-150-whiteprivilege.png


http://www.timwise.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/book-150-whitelikeme.png


http://www.timwise.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/book-150-speaking.png



http://www.timwise.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/book-150-colorblind.png

[Dino Velvet]

When we go bad we go really bad!:twisted:

[AmyDaly]

Oh so you are just being racist against white people then...

you racist

[kyoJecours]

:smh why even make it about race...?!

[natina]

I am white

THE TOPIC IS ABOUT WHITE PRIVILEGE and what happens to white people as a result of receiving white privilege

[lisaparadise]

I am white

THE TOPIC IS ABOUT WHITE PRIVILEGE and what happens to white people as a result of receiving white privilegeill be so happy when the day comes when we put all the racist crap to bed its really annoying me.

[Silcc69]

There are some amusing pic in here.

[AmyDaly]

I am white

THE TOPIC IS ABOUT WHITE PRIVILEGE and what happens to white people as a result of receiving white privilege

Oh i'm sorry, I thought this was a porn board...I didn't realize I joined a political discussion board on race.

This board is about transsexual women in porn, we have 0 privilege... so why are you bring this stuff here?

[phobun]

Oh i'm sorry, I thought this was a porn board...I didn't realize I joined a political discussion board on race.

This board is about transsexual women in porn, we have 0 privilege... so why are you bring this stuff here?


Good points. There are too many race-obsessed whiners here.

[Instrumental]

I don't see the issue with discussing it. It is the General board after all.

[kyoJecours]

I don't see the issue with discussing it. It is the General board after all.

because it's a non issue... if you're fucked in the head it has NOTHING to do with what colour your skin is... so there is nothing to discuss.

[Jericho]

coping skills
there are so many threads here about not dating black men and black men are this and that and black ts are ugly ans so on ....
yada yada yada........
so this is to temper


So, yer not just pissing petrol on a bonfire, then? :rolleyes:

[dgs925]

natina=troll


right?

[phobun]

natina=troll


right?


This is a total troll thread. Unfortunately, there are some folks here who will respond to it seriously.

[Instrumental]

because it's a non issue... if you're fucked in the head it has NOTHING to do with what colour your skin is...

While what you're saying is true, that doesn't seem to be the essence of the argument.

[PomonaCA]

Shot up a school? I suppose white people are also more likely to GO to school.

[kyoJecours]

Shot up a school? I suppose white people are also more likely to GO to school.

LoL you dickhead... ironic as well since the article is about the mindset generated from a feeling of white supremacy :fu:

[Instrumental]

This topic reminded me of this video: YouTube - I Can Do Whatever I'm White (What Ever You Like Pardoy) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1L_c7OSqLAg)

So hilarious.

[PomonaCA]

This topic reminded me of this video: YouTube - I Can Do Whatever I'm White (What Ever You Like Pardoy) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1L_c7OSqLAg)

So hilarious.


Old shit is old.

[Instrumental]

Still funny as the first time I watched it though =P

[envivision]

Tea baggers

[giovanni_hotel]

How does this topic relate to TS Porn/escorts/girls in general??

Should be in the Politics Discussion section, IMO. Mods, start modding!!!!

[seamonkey]

I hope this thread motivates everyone to VOTE! These right wing nuts would put us all in concentration camps and gas chambers if they had a chance (I kid you not).

Here are two more sources of info:

http://www.alternet.org/teaparty/148588/fascist_america%3A_is_this_election_the_next_turn_/

http://home.cc.umanitoba.ca/~altemey/

[PomonaCA]

I hope this thread motivates everyone to VOTE! These right wing nuts would put us all in concentration camps and gas chambers if they had a chance (I kid you not).

Here are two more sources of info:

http://www.alternet.org/teaparty/148588/fascist_america%3A_is_this_election_the_next_turn_/

http://home.cc.umanitoba.ca/~altemey/ (http://home.cc.umanitoba.ca/%7Ealtemey/)


Your links were TL;DR. And what do right wing nutjobs have to do with anything other than your paranoid delusions?

[DL_NL]

natina=troll


right?
Right, that's why they invented the Ignore list...

[natina]

talking about not seeing black men

black men and violence

black men and clothing

black men and rap

black men and homophobia


SO NOW!
I decided to post a discussion from another perspective
and TGIM WISE is a great way to do it

WHO HERE EVEN LISTENED TO THE DISCISSION FROM TIM WISE?

BEFORE YOU GOT ALL BENT OUT OF SHAPE!



TIM WISE
talks about white violence because of the coping factor
http://stuffwhitepeopledo.blogspot.com/2008/10/suffer-from-privilege-induced-lack-of.html (http://stuffwhitepeopledo.blogspot.com/2008/10/suffer-from-privilege-induced-lack-of.html)



Has Black Friday arrived in America? If so, are you prepared?

Actually, if you're a "white" American, there's a good chance that you're less prepared than other Americans. Emotionally that, is. And mentally. Maybe even physically.

As is so often the case, Tim Wise has explained well this common symptom of learning to be white:

Racism and white privilege/supremacy generates a mindset of entitlement among those in the dominant group. This entitlement mentality can prove dangerous, whenever the expectations of a member of the group are frustrated. Principally this is because such persons develop very weak coping skills as a result of never having to overcome the obstacles that oppressed folks deal with every day and MUST conquer in order to survive.

So, as a result, it is the privileged (the beneficiaries of racism, and also, it should be pointed out, the class system) who are ill-prepared for setback: the loss of a job, stocks taking a nose-dive (who were the folks jumping out the windows in the great depression–not poor folks and folks of color, but rich whites who couldn’t handle being broke!) Likewise, if you look at the various personal pathologies that tend to be disproportionate in the white community (and upper middle class for that matter), they are interesting in that they all are about control–controlling one’s anxiety, emotional pain, or controlling and dominating others–like suicide, substance abuse, eating disorders, self-injury/mutilation, serial killing and mass murder (as opposed to just regular one-on-one homicide), sexual sadism killings, etc.

Not knowing how the world works is dangerous. White privilege and racism allow the dominant group to live in a bubble of unreality. Most days that’s no big deal I suppose. But every now and then reality intrudes on you and if you haven’t been expecting it, the trauma is magnified. So, when 9/11 happened, millions of whites were running around saying “why do they hate us?” because whites have never had to see our nation the way others do–we’ve been able to live in la-la land.

But folks of color didn’t say this, because those without privilege HAVE to know what others think about them. Not to do so is to be in perpetual danger. So whites flipped out, and by virtue of being unprepared, pushed for a policy response (war) that folks of color were HIGHLY skeptical of from the beginning. But whites, enthralled by our sense of righteousness (itself a manifestation of privilege), pushed forward, convinced that the war in Iraq would go swimmingly. How’s that working out?
In other words, racism and privilege generate mentalities and policies that are dysfunctional, even deadly for whites as with folks of color. Folks of color are the first victims, to be sure, and the worst. But as someone else said, what goes around. . .
Privilege creates a false sense of security. Being the dominant group can set you up for a fall, can prevent you from building up the coping skills needed to deal with setback, because so often those skills are ones you just don't need.
Until you do, that is.


[This quotation is adapted from two sources: a comment Tim Wise wrote at Resist Racism (http://resistracism.wordpress.com/2007/10/29/how-does-racism-harm-white-people/), and one of his books, White Like Me: Reflections on Race from a Privileged Son (http://www.powells.com/biblio/1-9781933368993-0). Lyrics (http://www.steelydan.com/lyrkaty.html#track1) for Steely Dan's song "Black Friday"]



YouTube - Tim Wise: On White Privilege (Clip) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3Xe1kX7Wsc)

[natina]

Not withstanding all of her Christian rhetoric she knowingly lied about a race of people and could h




However, doubts about Storro's veracity were already spreading.

Media analyses, including a posting in The Vancouver Voice, questioned why in her photograph acid burns were absent from her face along her hairline, eyes or lips and none were reported on her neck, shoulders or hair or inside her nose or mouth.

..The Vancouver Voice also had reported that homeless witnesses claimed Storro was alone when she fell to the ground screaming.

Chats on The Columbian newspaper website had also questioned the veracity of Storro's tale.


.Storro said that while in the hospital, a Safeway representative gave her a check for $3,000, which was placed into her personal account, KGW TV reported.

She said she spent about $1,500 of the money on dinners for her parents, a train ticket for her sister, "stuff at Target" clothes for herself and round-trip train tickets to Seattle for her and her mother for the weekend of Sept. 12. She also used the money to pay off a $620 bill to a Portland clinic where she had a laser peel on Aug. 30, according to KGW TV.

A fund set up at Umpqua Bank for Storro, in the name of her mother Nancy Neuwelt, has accumulated $4,596.04. That included $800 from a fundraiser at Anytime Fitness.

An account at Riverview Savings Bank in Vancouver has $20,000 in Storro's name. The bank had held a fundraising golf tournament for her.

Nancy and Joseph Neuwelt said last week they didn't know why their daughter lied.

"Our hope is the medical community can find the answer," Nancy Neuwelt said at a Friday news conference outside their Vancouver home. "She’s obviously dealing with some deep internal psychological problems we had no knowledge of. She has a long road ahead of her, and we are going to walk it with her."

The couple said Storro, 28, was "extremely sorry" for causing the community pain.

The Neuwelts said they each believed "as any good parent would" that their daughter had been the victim of an attack. They said did not know until Thursday that the ordeal was a hoax.

Joseph Neuwelt said all money donated to his daughter's relief fund will be returned through the proper channels.



Court documents reveal woman applied drain cleaner to her own face
“ Why in the hell did she say it was a black person, and why in the hell did the media say it was a black person when the police had serious doubts.

I had done a Badger Bite on You Tube Vid expressing sorrow for her because I felt so bad and said that if it had been a black person having acid splashed on them by a white person Reverend Jackson and Al Sharpton would have been all over this. (I still feel the same about that)

But, I think Bethany Storro owes an apology to the black community.

Not withstanding all of her Christian rhetoric she knowingly lied about a race of people and could have caused serious harm to innocent African Americans that have suffered enough.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39278904/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts

http://www.examiner.com/headlines-in-seattle/acid-attack-hoax-bethany-storro-could-face-felony-charges-for-faking-attack


http://www.cbsnews.com/i/tim//2010/09/03/Bethany-Storro_Front_370x278.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_IBVPgalgRAk/TJOQsD0PS3I/AAAAAAAACbk/sEsBjohMSBY/s400/Bethany+Storro+fundraiser2.jpg

[natina]

The case gained worldwide attention shortly after it developed, due to Smith claiming that a black man stole her car and kidnapped her sons (http://crime.about.com/od/murder/a/susan_smith.htm)

Susan Smith
Born September 26, 1971 (1971-09-26) (age 38)
Union, South Carolina
Conviction(s) Two counts of murder
Penalty Life
Status Incarcerated at Leath Correctional Institution
Spouse David Smith (March 15, 1991 - May 1995)[1]
Parents Linda and Harry Vaughan

Susan Leigh Vaughan Smith (born September 26, 1971) is an American woman sentenced to life in prison for murdering her children. Born in Union, South Carolina, and a former student of the University of South Carolina Union, she was convicted on July 22, 1995 of murdering her two sons, 3-year-old Michael Daniel Smith, born October 10, 1991, and 14-month-old Alexander Tyler Smith, born August 5, 1993.[2] The case gained worldwide attention shortly after it developed, due to Smith claiming that a black man stole her car and kidnapped her sons. Smith later claimed that she suffered from mental health issues that impaired her judgment.

According to the South Carolina Department of Corrections, Smith will be eligible for parole on November 4, 2024, after serving a minimum of thirty years. She is currently incarcerated at South Carolina's Leath Correctional Institution, near Greenwood.[3]

Susan Smith - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia@@AMEPARAM@@/wiki/File:Flag_of_South_Carolina.svg" class="image"><img alt="Flag of South Carolina.svg" src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/69/Flag_of_South_Carolina.svg/42px-Flag_of_South_Carolina.svg.png"@@AMEPARAM@@commons/thumb/6/69/Flag_of_South_Carolina.svg/42px-Flag_of_South_Carolina.svg.png (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susan_Smith)

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2004-10-23-susan-smith_x.htm/


http://images.usatoday.com/news/_photos/2004/10/23/susan-smith-photo.jpg

[natina]

racism relates to politics and religion,like law and order does




remember it was not that long ago that another lady made up a story saying the black person did it.

it made national news and caused emotions to run high.


neocon/Republicans feel that blacks are prone to violence and these false accusations would of Lent

credibility to there feelings

White Mom Who Falsely Accused Black Men Of Kidnapping Her Is Found
From msnbc.com

Prosecutors believe that the Pennsylvania woman who was found with her daughter at Disney World after claiming they were abducted by two black men may have been taking actions due to domestic tensions with her second husband.

“They’re still looking into the motive behind this. We believe it may have to do with some domestic problems she may have been having with her husband,” Bucks County (Pa.) district attorney Michelle Henry told TODAY’s Natalie Morales Thursday. Henry said the couple may also have been facing financial problems.

Henry said that Bonnie Sweeten, 38, of Feasterville, will be charged with false reports and identity theft, both misdemeanors, and would be extradited from Florida to face the charges. Her 9-year-old daughter, Julia Rakoczy, was being interviewed by investigators and was to return home with her father and Sweeten’s ex-husband, Anthony Rakoczy.


http://newsone.com/nation/news-one-staff/white-mom-falsely-accuses-black-men-of-kidnapping-is-found-at-disney-world/




http://cdn.newsone.com/files/2009/05/fake-abduction.jpg (http://newsone.com/nation/news-one-staff/white-mom-falsely-accuses-black-men-of-kidnapping-is-found-at-disney-world/)

[AmyDaly]

http://imagemacros.files.wordpress.com/2009/07/successful-troll-is-successful.jpg

[natina]

Amy dalily needs a hug!

[AmyDaly]

Amy dalily needs a hug!
and nadina needs a ban!

How many threads are you going to make to try and stir up race issues?

http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/search.php?searchid=411846


You claim to be white too, but I think you are full of it.

[Helvis2012]

Naturally, look at the population numbers.

[rockabilly]

lol

For Amy Daly

[AmyDaly]

You got issues with race more than anyone...



oh and you aren't white
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/5935/loldk.jpg

[natina]

TIM WISE
talks about white violence because of the coping factor
http://stuffwhitepeopledo.blogspot.com/2008/10/suffer-from-privilege-induced-lack-of.html (http://stuffwhitepeopledo.blogspot.com/2008/10/suffer-from-privilege-induced-lack-of.html)



Has Black Friday arrived in America? If so, are you prepared?

Actually, if you're a "white" American, there's a good chance that you're less prepared than other Americans. Emotionally that, is. And mentally. Maybe even physically.

As is so often the case, Tim Wise has explained well this common symptom of learning to be white:

Racism and white privilege/supremacy generates a mindset of entitlement among those in the dominant group. This entitlement mentality can prove dangerous, whenever the expectations of a member of the group are frustrated. Principally this is because such persons develop very weak coping skills as a result of never having to overcome the obstacles that oppressed folks deal with every day and MUST conquer in order to survive.

So, as a result, it is the privileged (the beneficiaries of racism, and also, it should be pointed out, the class system) who are ill-prepared for setback: the loss of a job, stocks taking a nose-dive (who were the folks jumping out the windows in the great depression–not poor folks and folks of color, but rich whites who couldn’t handle being broke!) Likewise, if you look at the various personal pathologies that tend to be disproportionate in the white community (and upper middle class for that matter), they are interesting in that they all are about control–controlling one’s anxiety, emotional pain, or controlling and dominating others–like suicide, substance abuse, eating disorders, self-injury/mutilation, serial killing and mass murder (as opposed to just regular one-on-one homicide), sexual sadism killings, etc.

Not knowing how the world works is dangerous. White privilege and racism allow the dominant group to live in a bubble of unreality. Most days that’s no big deal I suppose. But every now and then reality intrudes on you and if you haven’t been expecting it, the trauma is magnified. So, when 9/11 happened, millions of whites were running around saying “why do they hate us?” because whites have never had to see our nation the way others do–we’ve been able to live in la-la land.

But folks of color didn’t say this, because those without privilege HAVE to know what others think about them. Not to do so is to be in perpetual danger. So whites flipped out, and by virtue of being unprepared, pushed for a policy response (war) that folks of color were HIGHLY skeptical of from the beginning. But whites, enthralled by our sense of righteousness (itself a manifestation of privilege), pushed forward, convinced that the war in Iraq would go swimmingly. How’s that working out?
In other words, racism and privilege generate mentalities and policies that are dysfunctional, even deadly for whites as with folks of color. Folks of color are the first victims, to be sure, and the worst. But as someone else said, what goes around. . .
Privilege creates a false sense of security. Being the dominant group can set you up for a fall, can prevent you from building up the coping skills needed to deal with setback, because so often those skills are ones you just don't need.
Until you do, that is.


[This quotation is adapted from two sources: a comment Tim Wise wrote at Resist Racism (http://resistracism.wordpress.com/2007/10/29/how-does-racism-harm-white-people/), and one of his books, White Like Me: Reflections on Race from a Privileged Son (http://www.powells.com/biblio/1-9781933368993-0). Lyrics (http://www.steelydan.com/lyrkaty.html#track1) for Steely Dan's song "Black Friday"]



This is a clip from The Pathology of Privilege: Racism, White Denial & the Costs of Inequality, the newly released video from the Media Education Foundation. The video is of a speech given by Tim Wise at Mt. Holyoke College, October 1, 2007.



The Pathology of Privilege: Racism, White Denial & the Costs of Inequality
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3Xe1kX7Wsc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3Xe1kX7Wsc)


http://www.redroom.com/video/tim-wise-creation-whiteness-clip (http://www.redroom.com/video/tim-wise-creation-whiteness-clip)


more complete video but has relatedlinks/urls and related to more of his speakings/lectures

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-VEWJncnsk&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-VEWJncnsk&feature=related)



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UJlNRODZHA&feature=related (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UJlNRODZHA&feature=related)


Tim Wise-institutional racism, labor, prison education
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-VEWJncnsk&NR=1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-VEWJncnsk&NR=1)


affirmative action /school bias white people have affimative action to


YouTube - white people have affimative action to (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0irqMXsiXx0)



“Colorblindness,” “Illuminated Individualism,” Poor Whites, and Mad Men: The Tim Wise Interview, Part 1


http://www.racialicious.com/2010/09/09/%E2%80%9Ccolorblindness%E2%80%9D-%E2%80%9Cilluminated-individualism%E2%80%9D-poor-whites-and-mad-men-the-tim-wise-interview-part-1/ (http://www.racialicious.com/2010/09/09/%E2%80%9Ccolorblindness%E2%80%9D-%E2%80%9Cilluminated-individualism%E2%80%9D-poor-whites-and-mad-men-the-tim-wise-interview-part-1/)

http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/attachment.php?attachmentid=350239&stc=1&d=1287825825 http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/attachment.php?attachmentid=350240&stc=1&d=1287825878 http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/attachment.php?attachmentid=350241&stc=1&d=1287825917


http://www.timwise.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/dvd-150-whiteprivilege.png


http://www.timwise.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/book-150-whitelikeme.png


http://www.timwise.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/book-150-speaking.png



http://www.timwise.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/book-150-colorblind.png

[AmyDaly]

Nadina...you aren't white. You are the racist one against white people. You create the race problem on this board more than anyone else. You're a hypocrite.

http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/5935/loldk.jpg

[kyoJecours]

you gotta laugh at that post history... talk about an unhealthy obsession.

[tommymageeshemales2]

Didn't read dickhead!

[natina]

if you do not read what I post and see the essays and here them how can you say its racist?

a white male is the one saying this


http://www.timwise.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/book-150-whitelikeme.png


http://www.timwise.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/book-150-speaking.png

[kyoJecours]

cos you make everything about race. you're obsessed with skin colour. get over it...!

[rockabilly]

Maybe it's "Vader Syndrome".

[hwbs]

that is the hot button of ha...they dont want to reply unless it has racial ramifications

[AmyDaly]

[SIZE=4]if you do not read what I post and see the essays and here them how can you say its racist?
Read what you post?

All you post is youtube clips and clips from news sites. And MOST of the threads you make are about race. You claim that you are a white male, but your name reflects a different race and gender.

If you are trying to make race issues better then good for you. But all you are doing is making it worse.

[natina]

rosa parks was a racist who hates white bus drivers



something rush limbaugh,glenn beck,sarah palin........ would say


http://0.tqn.com/d/politicalhumor/1/7/E/c/3/glenn-beck-60s.jpg (http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_kC5MT2r5U8s/TFMUTTHOABI/AAAAAAAAPzw/8XmyhoGV7KE/s1600/55rosa+parks+arrest.jpg)


http://www.bbc.co.uk/1xtra/tx/gallery/media/rosa_parks_405.jpg


http://e-portals.org/Parks/rosa1.gif


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/c4/Rosaparks.jpg/220px-Rosaparks.jpg

[LaCosa]

Just for the record... I wouldn't mind putting my swollen, stiff cock in Ashely George's white ass.

And that would be mulatto cock by the way. :lol:

I watched 2 of those Tim Wise video's. The cat can speak, and I can't really object to anything I heard in his first two clips. Most scholars - so far as I know - do tend to trace the dawn of racism by white people and the concept of "white people" as we know it... to the 1400's. That's what I learned in my past Africology class anyways. My professor was a Vodou Priest with a Ph.D. :) Cool. But that proposition also corroborates much of the history I have read prior to ever taking that Africology course.

By the way... I'm not sure the veracity of what I'm about to say but I have read that in Brazil the transsexuals often are practitioners of Canomble - the "Afro-Brazilian" religion (akin to Vodou and Santeria).

The history of European colonialism and neo-colonialism are with us today. Our artificially carved boarders bare this out. The mestizos throughout Latin America reflect this. Spanish, Portuguese, and English spoken throughout Africa and Asia evidence this.

But exploitation and hierarchy of some sorts seems to go hand-in-hand with what we term "civilization." Supposedly, the most egalitarian societies were the primitive tribal scale societies. Less so the larger Chiefdom's.

The Japanese are usually used as the archetype model for the non-white racism. The Japanese certainly had no love for the Koreans living among them. But the history of Asia, Africa, Europe, and even pre-Columbian Americas is one of the stronger jacking the weaker. Hell, whites rarely captrured Africans, it was black African empires like the Songhay (Muslim) that grew rich selling black people to European traders. The Aztecs have been compared to the Nazi's. And I think Tokyo literally rests atop thousands or more of dead enslaved persons that built the city. Perhaps one of the best civilizations was the Thai of centuries ago. To distinguish themselves from their Khmer neighbors that enslaved peoples, they called themselves "free people" of Thai and they called their country "Land of the Free" or Thailand. :lol: A label more applicable to them centuries ago than to the U.S. narrative of the United States of centuries ago.

Transsexuals really have little political power whether or not they are white. A group of 5 mulatto and black men will have more social clout and potential political capital than 20 white transsexual girls. Even regular gay males and lesbians have more political clout than transsexuals - largely because homosexuals can be "invisible minorities." Being "black" or transsexual is often noticeable or detectable. Some very light people "passed" in the U.S. decades ago, and some very girly looking transsexuals "pass" today as biological girls. In both cases life was or is made easier on the said individuals. Being "outed" can bring negative consequences though.

I think Italy elected a male-to-female transsexual as Prime Minister many years ago. In Brazil I believe a male-to-female transsexual was elected Sheriff in some town.

But as we see... the U.S. is ready to elect a black President (really mulatto, but the U.S. is not Latin America, so, a mulatto raised by whites in white and Asian ass Hawaii is still perceptually "black") before a transsexual President. :lol:

[El Nino]

If Natina is a white male, I am the Pope...

[natina]

but I am not catholic.

my real name is not natina


a few people on this thread can't handle the truth.

the preacher tells the truth and it hurts

[beandip]

These right wing nuts would put us all in concentration camps and gas chambers if they had a chance (I kid you not).


Yea, you're funny. Look what "progressives" want.

Woah!… Soros Group Says Obama Can Use Armed Forces to Push “Progressive” Agenda

Posted by Jim Hoft on Thursday, November 18, 2010, 12:15 PM

http://gatewaypundit.rightnetwork.com/wp-content/themes/Gateway-Pundit-Wordpress-Theme/images/btn-prev-post.jpg (http://gatewaypundit.rightnetwork.com/2010/11/counsel-recommends-censuring-democrat-charlie-rangel/)
http://gatewaypundit.rightnetwork.com/wp-content/themes/Gateway-Pundit-Wordpress-Theme/images/btn-next-post.jpg (http://gatewaypundit.rightnetwork.com/2010/11/arab-americans-counter-protest-westboro-freaks-in-dearbornistan/)

http://gatewaypundit.rightnetwork.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/goosestep-e1290105053527.jpg (http://gatewaypundit.rightnetwork.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/goosestep.jpg)
John Podesta from the Center for American Progress released a report this week that, among other things, suggested that Obama can use the US Military to push the president’s radical totalitarian agenda.
The Blaze (http://www.theblaze.com/stories/podesta-obama-can-use-armed-forces-to-push-progressive-agenda/) reported:

The liberal Center for American Progress doesn’t believe significant GOP gains in the House and Senate should stop the President from implementing more of his polices. The group released a report Tuesday suggesting ways Obama can bypass Congress to accomplish a progressive agenda, and it cites the president’s power as commander-in-chief to make its point.
“I think most of the conversation since the election has been about how President Obama adjusts to the new situation on Capitol Hill,” Center for American Progress head and former Bill Clinton Chief of Staff John Podesta told the Daily Caller. “While that’s an important conversation, it simply ignores the president’s ability to use all levels of his power and authority to move the country forward.”
How does one “move the country forward”? In the center’s report, Podesta explains that Obama can use executive orders, rulemaking, and even the armed forces “to accomplish important change” and that such means “should not be underestimated.”
What exactly does Podesta think the president should use such powers to “accomplish”? Among others, the report suggests “job creation,“ ”quality affordable health care,“ ”sustainable security,“ and ”a clean energy future.”
The report cites specific goals such as mitigating the effects of the military’s “Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell” policy, supporting a Palestinian state, and reducing greenhouse gasses by 17 percent by 2020.
The Center for American Progress was given a 3-year $3,000,000 grant (http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Center_for_American_Progress) by George Soros’ Open Society Institute in 2006.
Media Matters (http://mediamatters.org/), the communication wing of the Center for American Progress, was given a $1,000,000 grant (http://www.politico.com/blogs/onmedia/1010/Soros_gives_1_million_to_Media_Matters.html) by George Soros in October.

[russtafa]

white or black murder should be punished with the death of the murderer and the the family should pay for the expence of the bullet

[natina]

The Underprivileged White Male


YouTube - The Underprivileged White Male (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_jaH_hmnrPU&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL)



TIM WISE ON THE CREATION OF WHITENESS (CLIP)
http://www.redroom.com/video/tim-wise-creation-whiteness-clip



http://www.redroom.com/video/tim-wise-creation-whiteness-clip
http://www.redroom.com/video/tim-wise-creation-whiteness-clip
http://www.redroom.com/video/tim-wise-creation-whiteness-clip
http://www.redroom.com/video/tim-wise-creation-whiteness-clip
http://www.redroom.com/video/tim-wise-creation-whiteness-clip



YouTube - Tim Wise: On White Privilege (Clip) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3Xe1kX7Wsc)




TIM WISE ON THE "DOMINANT HISTORICAL NARRATIVE"
http://www.redroom.com/video/tim-wise-dominant-historical-narrative


http://www.redroom.com/video/tim-wise-dominant-historical-narrative
http://www.redroom.com/video/tim-wise-dominant-historical-narrative
http://www.redroom.com/video/tim-wise-dominant-historical-narrative
http://www.redroom.com/video/tim-wise-dominant-historical-narrative
http://www.redroom.com/video/tim-wise-dominant-historical-narrative
http://www.redroom.com/video/tim-wise-dominant-historical-narrative



YouTube - Tim Wise on the "Dominant Narrative" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyeK7mcestg)



TIM WISE ON WHITE PRIVILEGE (TEASER)


http://www.redroom.com/video/tim-wise-white-privilege-teaser


http://www.redroom.com/video/tim-wise-white-privilege-teaser
http://www.redroom.com/video/tim-wise-white-privilege-teaser
http://www.redroom.com/video/tim-wise-white-privilege-teaser
http://www.redroom.com/video/tim-wise-white-privilege-teaser
http://www.redroom.com/video/tim-wise-white-privilege-teaser



YouTube - Tim Wise: On White Privilege (Teaser) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Il-_SQuklzg)






http://www.redroom.com/media/tim-wise
http://www.redroom.com/media/tim-wise
http://www.redroom.com/media/tim-wise
http://www.redroom.com/media/tim-wise
http://www.redroom.com/media/tim-wise
http://www.redroom.com/media/tim-wise

[natina]

WHITE GUYS HAVE THE HIGHEST HIV RATE
ON THE PLANET

And the trend is not confined to the United States: researchers in the U.K. and Europe have also noted the increase, reported British newspaper The Guardian (http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2010/sep/07/young-gay-men-hiv-epidemic) on Sept. 7. "By investigating the genetic profile of the virus in more than 500 newly screened patients over nine years, scientists in Belgium have identified clusters of people with type B virus--not the one that is most prevalent in Africa," The Guardian reported. "Those infected are almost all white, male, gay and young," the article continued.

The researchers noted that, "Members of this cluster are significantly younger than the rest of the population and have more chlamydia and syphilis infections," the article said.


"Those infected are almost all white, male, gay and young," the article continued


The AIDS crisis that ravaged the gay community in cities like New York and San Francisco may be less visible, but it is still raging, health experts earn--and a new wave of HIV infections may be about to crest.

For some time, researchers have noted that despite efforts to promote safer sex, HIV rates are climbing among young gay men. So are rates for other sexually transmitted diseases, such as syphilis; unfortunately, individuals already infected with one STI may be at an elevated risk for contracting others, including HIV.

While some of the blame may rest with younger gays not having access to safer sex messages, a perception among young MSMs (men who have sex with men) that AIDS is no longer a serious health concern may also be driving the increased incidence in HIV. Most serious of all, however, is a tendency toward unsafe sex and other risky behaviors, such as drug use, which affect judgment and may lead to more unsafe sex-and a higher rate of HIV infection.

And the trend is not confined to the United States: researchers in the U.K. and Europe have also noted the increase, reported British newspaper The Guardian (http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2010/sep/07/young-gay-men-hiv-epidemic) on Sept. 7. "By investigating the genetic profile of the virus in more than 500 newly screened patients over nine years, scientists in Belgium have identified clusters of people with type B virus--not the one that is most prevalent in Africa," The Guardian reported. "Those infected are almost all white, male, gay and young," the article continued.

The researchers noted that, "Members of this cluster are significantly younger than the rest of the population and have more chlamydia and syphilis infections," the article said.

That is not to say that heterosexuals do not also face the risk of contracting HIV; overall, just under half of the new cases of HIV in Britain were gay men, but straights were also getting infected. One main difference was that while gays seemed to be getting infected without traveling to other countries, heterosexuals--who were picking up a different strain of the virus--seemed to be contracting the virus while abroad, the article said.

"Gay men are still the most at risk of HIV infection in the UK," said Nick Partridge, the head of British AIDS charity the Terrence Higgins Trust. "We also know that more than a quarter of people with HIV in the UK are currently undiagnosed, and they’re far more likely to pass the virus on than those who know they have it."

The Belgian study, which looked at HIV trends in Britain and Europe, was carried out by researchers at Ghent University. But health experts in the United States also cautioned that HIV remains a serious health threat here.

In a Sept. 3 release from New York-based Gay Men’s Health Crisis (GMHC), Dr. Marjorie Hill, the group’s CEO, warned, "A new wave of HIV infections is about to hit New York and we had all better get ready for it," and went on to echo that one major concern is the number of people living with HIV who have not gotten tested, and so don’t know that they have it.

However, Dr. Hill continued, a new state law requiring routine HIV testing is likely to lead to a sharp uptick in reported new cases. "Previously, patients were required to sign a separate written consent form in order to get tested for HIV," explained Dr. Hill. "Now, if you agree to a quick swab test, you will only have to give oral consent.

"When undergoing routine medical procedures or check-ups, you will be offered a standard HIV blood test to sign off on along with the battery of tests that most patients receive. Once you give your consent, it stays in effect for all your future blood tests," Hill added, going on to cite the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention as projecting an estimate that says "100,000 people in New York City alone are currently living with HIV infection, but more than 25,000 of them do not know it."

Added Hill, "Most of these unknowing carriers of HIV feel and look healthy and are, in most respects. But they are missing out on treatments that could prevent them from progressing to AIDS. Plus, they are in danger of transmitting the virus to others, continuing to fuel the epidemic."

One crucial benefit of testing is that the sooner HIV+ individuals know their status, the sooner they can begin taking medication to keep the virus in check. Though there is no cure for HIV, modern treatment regimens can help many HIV+ people keep their viral loads down to undetectable levels, meaning that they have a better chance at a normal life span. But early treatment is the key, a Chicago specialist in HIV/AIDS, Dr. James Sullivan (http://www.edgeboston.com/index.php?ch=news&sc=&sc2=&sc3=&id=109750), said recently.


http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=52375&page=4 (http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=52375&page=4)
http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=52375&page=4 (http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=52375&page=4)
http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=52375&page=4 (http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=52375&page=4)
http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=52375&page=4 (http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=52375&page=4)



ESPECIALLY in Europe or the UK but also true in the Americas



http://www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/newsroom/docs/FastFacts-MSM-FINAL508COMP.pdf (http://www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/newsroom/docs/FastFacts-MSM-FINAL508COMP.pdf)
http://www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/newsroom/docs/FastFacts-MSM-FINAL508COMP.pdf (http://www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/newsroom/docs/FastFacts-MSM-FINAL508COMP.pdf)
http://www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/newsroom/docs/FastFacts-MSM-FINAL508COMP.pdf (http://www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/newsroom/docs/FastFacts-MSM-FINAL508COMP.pdf)
http://www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/newsroom/docs/FastFacts-MSM-FINAL508COMP.pdf (http://www.cdc.gov/nchhstp/newsroom/docs/FastFacts-MSM-FINAL508COMP.pdf)

[natina]

coping skills


there are so many threads here about not dating black men and black men are this and that and black ts are ugly and so on ....
yada yada yada........

so this is to temper



http://www.timwise.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/dvd-150-whiteprivilege.png


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http://www.timwise.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/book-150-colorblind.png


YouTube - Tim Wise: On White Privilege (Clip) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3Xe1kX7Wsc)


YouTube - Talk - Tim Wise on White Privilege (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UJlNRODZHA)

[DL_NL]

Incredibly dumb thread. Lay off the race crap here already, it's getting old.

[natina]

This thread is needed again

[w1s2x3]

Is there any evidence of white people forming secret societies? Do they have a secret handshake? or special prices at the store? I think people may associate based on interests. People at work will socialize based on accomplishments on a project. People who go to a church probably socialize around church activities. People can also socialize around their common economic situation (e.g. neighborhoods, etc). Considering white people fought a war to end slavery and a few showed up for civil rights marches I have a hard time thinking they are as bad as you are painting them.

I think disturbed people commit the acts you present. Not all white people
are born to privilege and coping skills are part of the nature/nurture argument.

[Faldur]

This thread is needed again

The tread may be, but you most certainly are not..:loser: