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toopretty
10-10-2010, 04:40 AM
As a graduate student, still living in a college town, I go to college bars. Getting laid is like shooting a fish in a barrel with certain behaviors. Now-a-days Im pretty indifferent with girls and im getting laid more then ever. Its like, I meet a girl, "Hi I'm Amber" and I say some like "yeh, cool im going up to the bar." with out even looking at her in a "i dont really care what your name is" tone of voice. And its like they are puddy in your hands if your a dick. If we are standing around in a group I tap her with my empty beer bottle and say something like "hey, how about you go get me a waitress we need beers." and this behavior gets me laid.
So, my question is...is it the same way with ts's. Do you have these same tendencies as gg's. And tell the truth...all girls say they want a nice, funny guy but their track record is full dick heads like me. And the truth is I meet lots of different girls in lots of different situations and they all pretty much view me differently depending on the circumstance. (like it is with most guys.) Some girls see me as the nice, funny guy and some view me as a swaggering, asshole player...it just seems that I get into the pants of the latter.
So ladies, is it the same way with you? ...do you only end up sleeping with or attracted to the jerks?

FreddieGomez
10-10-2010, 04:51 AM
as long as they know you're a playa, they'll want you...........

hippifried
10-10-2010, 10:32 AM
Try it out & come back with a report.

AlwaysAda
10-10-2010, 10:39 AM
if you tap me and tell me to go get a waitress ill tell out to "Get the waitress your god damn self." Then you would be on my shit list. I don't know about other girls but that don't work with me. and I rarely even pay attention to most guys in the bar or club.

Deja Vu
10-10-2010, 10:54 AM
thats whatcha say now...

Pelheckitt
10-10-2010, 10:57 AM
Are you wearing space pants? Cause your ass is out of this world, has never failed! Feel free to use it.

toopretty
10-10-2010, 11:21 AM
if you tap me and tell me to go get a waitress ill tell out to "Get the waitress your god damn self." Then you would be on my shit list. I don't know about other girls but that don't work with me. and I rarely even pay attention to most guys in the bar or club.

I get what your saying but alot of girls say that...and never really back it up with actions. They usually only give their attention to dick heads. I dont like to be mean or act like a dick but I know (through countless experiences) that girls wouldnt even pay attention to me enough to know my name if i wasnt. So the way I see it...its better to be a dick in the game then a nice guy on the sidelines. Even if I might end up on a few shit lists, which never happens because girls think im 24097435145 times more charming when Im half way nice to them for 30 seconds later on in the night.

sunairco
10-10-2010, 02:15 PM
Methinks you've been reading one too many PUA books and websites. If the girls would be anything like my kids or their friends, you'd probably be waddling around with that beer bottle firmly stuck up your ass with an attitude like that. Maybe that cocky alpha male neurolinguistic shit might work on some wide eyed, insecure, small town kid after a couple of drinks. Otherwise most would roll their eyes and laugh you off as a player wannabe. Chicks like confident guys, not total assholes. Most can spot a two bit player with a script from a mile away.

CORVETTEDUDE
10-10-2010, 02:36 PM
I call BULLSHIT!!!

amberskyi
10-10-2010, 03:21 PM
yea.insecure is insecure.
when i first started my transition i had like ZERO self esteem and would fall for stupid shit like that.but as i grew more into a woman my self-esteem and self-worth grew as well.plus i just had a really great boyfriend who showed me how i deserve to be treated.i feel bad for the guys after him cause he set the bar really high.

phobun
10-10-2010, 05:24 PM
As a graduate student, still living in a college town, I go to college bars. Getting laid is like shooting a fish in a barrel with certain behaviors. Now-a-days Im pretty indifferent with girls and im getting laid more then ever. Its like, I meet a girl, "Hi I'm Amber" and I say some like "yeh, cool im going up to the bar." with out even looking at her in a "i dont really care what your name is" tone of voice. And its like they are puddy in your hands if your a dick. If we are standing around in a group I tap her with my empty beer bottle and say something like "hey, how about you go get me a waitress we need beers." and this behavior gets me laid.
So, my question is...is it the same way with ts's. Do you have these same tendencies as gg's. And tell the truth...all girls say they want a nice, funny guy but their track record is full dick heads like me. And the truth is I meet lots of different girls in lots of different situations and they all pretty much view me differently depending on the circumstance. (like it is with most guys.) Some girls see me as the nice, funny guy and some view me as a swaggering, asshole player...it just seems that I get into the pants of the latter.
So ladies, is it the same way with you? ...do you only end up sleeping with or attracted to the jerks?


This is pure B.S.

ohioguy13
10-10-2010, 05:47 PM
I think you reap what you sow. If you are succussful with this type of approach I doubt very much you attract a quality person. Most classy girls gg or otherwise would pitch a drink in your face. Try showing some class and manners and youd suprise yourself how much better a class of person youll attract. the fact is if your attracted to someone you like to degrade you have issues. Personally ive had success with standing when a lady leaves a table and getting a door for them but hey to each his own. Manners never go out of style

alyssaluxor
10-10-2010, 05:55 PM
As a graduate student, still living in a college town, I go to college bars. Getting laid is like shooting a fish in a barrel with certain behaviors. Now-a-days Im pretty indifferent with girls and im getting laid more then ever. Its like, I meet a girl, "Hi I'm Amber" and I say some like "yeh, cool im going up to the bar." with out even looking at her in a "i dont really care what your name is" tone of voice. And its like they are puddy in your hands if your a dick. If we are standing around in a group I tap her with my empty beer bottle and say something like "hey, how about you go get me a waitress we need beers." and this behavior gets me laid.
So, my question is...is it the same way with ts's. Do you have these same tendencies as gg's. And tell the truth...all girls say they want a nice, funny guy but their track record is full dick heads like me. And the truth is I meet lots of different girls in lots of different situations and they all pretty much view me differently depending on the circumstance. (like it is with most guys.) Some girls see me as the nice, funny guy and some view me as a swaggering, asshole player...it just seems that I get into the pants of the latter.
So ladies, is it the same way with you? ...do you only end up sleeping with or attracted to the jerks?

for me guys who are hot, yummy, fit, nice body and delicious would definitely makes my COCK rocking hard instantly

:fuckin:

also good attitude and a gentleman is a plus ;)

alyssaluxor
10-10-2010, 05:58 PM
I think you reap what you sow. If you are succussful with this type of approach I doubt very much you attract a quality person. Most classy girls gg or otherwise would pitch a drink in your face. Try showing some class and manners and youd suprise yourself how much better a class of person youll attract. the fact is if your attracted to someone you like to degrade you have issues. Personally ive had success with standing when a lady leaves a table and getting a door for them but hey to each his own. Manners never go out of style

:iagree:

I 1000% agree to this one. Call me corny or boring but honestly the guys who open the door for me, give me a seat on the metro train, let me go inside the bus first gives me chills! They are just uber cool for me. That happens to me a lot with strangers. Even with Filipino men mostly they give their metro train seats to me makes me blush so much :Bowdown:

ohioguy13
10-10-2010, 06:25 PM
Making Alyssa blush makes it even that much more fun!

Ryz
10-10-2010, 07:10 PM
Funny thing is that it does work. lool

scroller
10-10-2010, 07:27 PM
Even if I might end up on a few shit lists, which never happens because girls think im 24097435145 times more charming when Im half way nice to them for 30 seconds later on in the night.

Yeah, that there is called sociopathy.

hippifried
10-10-2010, 07:58 PM
Funny thing is that it does work. lool
But anything works if you don't care what kind of person you attract. Flashin' cash works even better, but the big talkers probably wouldn't know anything about that. The problem with the asshole approach is that you end up with girls who never thought they had a prayer of getting laid or are too sloshed to know the difference or care.

Personally, I'm not buying this braggadocio for an instant.

toopretty
10-10-2010, 08:21 PM
yeh yeh yeh...im not a student, im a sociopath, and i only talk to drunk, unattractive girls. you are all right

toopretty
10-10-2010, 08:26 PM
Funny thing is that it does work. lool

it does. and everyone is talking about the low quality of girls it attracts, but its actually what gets the hottest of the hot. You can tell who the old guys are that have no idea what actually works with women compared to the younger guys, on this thread, that go out and actually talk to girls and know what works. haha

LittleGuy
10-10-2010, 08:29 PM
with ts you better have alot of money.

toopretty
10-10-2010, 08:33 PM
Methinks you've been reading one too many PUA books and websites. If the girls would be anything like my kids or their friends, you'd probably be waddling around with that beer bottle firmly stuck up your ass with an attitude like that. Maybe that cocky alpha male neurolinguistic shit might work on some wide eyed, insecure, small town kid after a couple of drinks. Otherwise most would roll their eyes and laugh you off as a player wannabe. Chicks like confident guys, not total assholes. Most can spot a two bit player with a script from a mile away.

no man. this has all morphed from spending the beginning of my undergrad years as the nice guy that watched the girls I was interested go home with frat douches. And I woudnt do it if it didnt work time after time. works the same on 35 year old moms as it does with wide eyes small town kids. Even the women that dont like it and think Im a total asshole still end up giving me the majority of their attention.

DL_NL
10-10-2010, 08:47 PM
Pretty sad to have to resort to routines to get laid.

Ryz
10-10-2010, 08:57 PM
with ts you better have alot of money.

If you're at least decent looking, you don't need money

Mari_Mar
10-10-2010, 09:05 PM
I'd say that this technique probably only works for scoring one-night stands, and the girl has already made up her mind that she wants to get laid that night. I know that there is a certain amount of confidence and cockiness that I appreciate from males, but it's really all in the delivery. Blatant macho bravado is a total turn off, and if I sense it, I either show utter indifference to the guy, or I start flirting with/making out with the other girls in the club.

That said, I could comply with that waitress line given the right context, and not bat an eye at it. But, it most certainly wouldn't make me want to bend over the table right then and there, or anything. I'd probably just think I was helping out the evening... :/

Mari_Mar
10-10-2010, 09:09 PM
If you're at least decent looking, you don't need money

That really depends on who you're hitting on, no? I mean, a working girl will be all about the money, if she's working.

A lesbian or bi-girl may not even notice you.

Ryz
10-10-2010, 09:34 PM
That really depends on who you're hitting on, no? I mean, a working girl will be all about the money, if she's working.

A lesbian or bi-girl may not even notice you.

Yeah, a lesbian wouldn't pay any attention to a guy. Obviously.
If a working girl is just looking to have some fun, it really doesn't matter. You can still get some without a price tag :wiggle:

Mari_Mar
10-10-2010, 09:38 PM
You can still get some without a price tag :wiggle:

Little dancy emote made me lol! :D

Ryz
10-10-2010, 09:44 PM
Little dancy emote made me lol! :D

Haha. It's good to see someone who can actually smile. People here can be so miserable at times...

toopretty
10-10-2010, 09:48 PM
I'd say that this technique probably only works for scoring one-night stands, and the girl has already made up her mind that she wants to get laid that night. I know that there is a certain amount of confidence and cockiness that I appreciate from males, but it's really all in the delivery. Blatant macho bravado is a total turn off, and if I sense it, I either show utter indifference to the guy, or I start flirting with/making out with the other girls in the club.

That said, I could comply with that waitress line given the right context, and not bat an eye at it. But, it most certainly wouldn't make me want to bend over the table right then and there, or anything. I'd probably just think I was helping out the evening... :/

I dont think I have done a good job of explaining myself. Im not mean and i dont treat girls like shit. That waitress thing is just an example. I dont actually expect her to get me a beer... its meant to get her attention and to start a sassy/cocky rapport between us. She will probably be sassy back and say something like "why dont you get ME a beer?" and then Ill say "you can just get your little fan club to buy you drinks (and point at the group of guys that have been hounding her all night). That automatically devalues every guy in there and gets her attention on me and it stays on me all night as she warms up to me. Thats an example of I hit on girls.

If a group of my friends and I were talking with a group of girls and I was said, "excuse me, ladies...im going to the bar would anyone like a drink?" they would all give me their orders and I would go get their drinks and bring them back to them and the girls would all think how polite I was while they are going back to some other guys house.

Mari_Mar
10-10-2010, 09:56 PM
Yeah, cocky sense of humor goes a long way. When it's playful and sassy it's a total turn on. But, I don't think that equates to being "an asshole." You know? It sounds like you're still engaged and playing a game of give and take with the girl. An asshole is all about "take."


Haha. It's good to see someone who can actually smile. People here can be so miserable at times...

I'm a constant joker.

FreddieGomez
10-10-2010, 10:03 PM
with ts you better have alot of money.

bwahaha everybody knows dudes who look good or are the trannies type are guaranteed to get it for free....half these chicks who escort hit me up offerin it for free because they know a dude looks good...now if you older, bald, fat, and lookin like somebody's high school teacher i'd understand you havin to pay....

alyssaluxor
10-10-2010, 10:28 PM
bwahaha everybody knows dudes who look good or are the trannies type are guaranteed to get it for free....half these chicks who escort hit me up offerin it for free because they know a dude looks good...now if you older, bald, fat, and lookin like somebody's high school teacher i'd understand you havin to pay....

FUCK me!

:fuckin:

Mari_Mar
10-10-2010, 10:30 PM
Someone's horny. ;)

amberskyi
10-10-2010, 10:31 PM
Someone's horny. ;)

yep.she always is lol

Mari_Mar
10-10-2010, 10:34 PM
yep.she always is lol

Hahaha! Lucky girl!

Ryz
10-10-2010, 10:36 PM
bwahaha everybody knows dudes who look good or are the trannies type are guaranteed to get it for free....half these chicks who escort hit me up offerin it for free because they know a dude looks good...now if you older, bald, fat, and lookin like somebody's high school teacher i'd understand you havin to pay....

Most of the time, but not necessarily

TsVanessa69
10-10-2010, 10:37 PM
bwahaha everybody knows dudes who look good or are the trannies type are guaranteed to get it for free....half these chicks who escort hit me up offerin it for free because they know a dude looks good...now if you older, bald, fat, and lookin like somebody's high school teacher i'd understand you havin to pay....
When I get treated like a ts, I get money.
When you treat me like a woman I go with the flow.
Now I give away some pussy free, but NEVER gotten to the point of hittin up dudes.
Now we get alot of dudes hittin us up beggin!

FreddieGomez
10-10-2010, 10:38 PM
When I get treated like a ts, I get money.
When you treat me like a woman I go with the flow.
Now I give away some pussy free, but NEVER gotten to the point of hittin up dudes.
Now we get alot of dudes hittin us up beggin!

i get it too from real chicks as well as trannie...what's your point?

TsVanessa69
10-10-2010, 10:39 PM
If you're at least decent looking, you don't need money
Its not even about looks. Good looking dudes got attitude and I got attitude, so we clash. I'll take the average joe guy with confidence any day.

TsVanessa69
10-10-2010, 10:41 PM
i get it too from real chicks as well as trannie...what's your point?
otra vez! loca un control!
Yay somebody with a vagina gave you some free!!
Want a cookie???
I can get real females too, I just don't want any, can I pass them on to you??

Mari_Mar
10-10-2010, 10:44 PM
i get it too from real chicks as well as trannie...what's your point?

Yeah, I know a lot of girls who throw themselves at guys. Sometimes it's to nab a client, but a lot of the times it's for validation.

I'm not saying you're not someone worth dating Freddie (I don't know you), I'm just saying that sex can have different meanings to some people.

Mari_Mar
10-10-2010, 10:47 PM
otra vez! loca un control!
Yay somebody with a vagina gave you some free!!
Want a cookie???
I can get real females too, I just don't want any, can I pass them on to you??

My god! You're offering cookies and females! SIGN ME UP!!! ;)

Ryz
10-10-2010, 10:50 PM
My god! You're offering cookies and females! SIGN ME UP!!! ;)

:iagree::iagree::iagree::iagree::iagree:

FreddieGomez
10-10-2010, 10:59 PM
otra vez! loca un control!
Yay somebody with a vagina gave you some free!!
Want a cookie???
I can get real females too, I just don't want any, can I pass them on to you??

i'm jus sayin you aint the ONLY one it happens to.

Mari_Mar
10-10-2010, 11:01 PM
Freddie...

TsVanessa69
10-10-2010, 11:02 PM
i'm jus sayin you aint the ONLY one it happens to.
I know I am not, and like I said, I got some to share.
I have never been greedy, and I do help the needy!

TsVanessa69
10-10-2010, 11:03 PM
:iagree::iagree::iagree::iagree::iagree:
I gotchall don't trip!

TsVanessa69
10-10-2010, 11:05 PM
Yeah, I know a lot of girls who throw themselves at guys. Sometimes it's to nab a client, but a lot of the times it's for validation.

I'm not saying you're not someone worth dating Freddie (I don't know you), I'm just saying that sex can have different meanings to some people.
Yea. That sucks that a man is needed for validation

Mari_Mar
10-10-2010, 11:10 PM
Yea. That sucks that a man is needed for validation

Totally! I fell for it early on in my transition, and acted like a total slut. Ultimately, it just lead to me becoming distrustful of men, and a militant lesbian. Luckily, I've grown out of both mentalities.

sucka4chix
10-10-2010, 11:10 PM
It's a well documented FACT that girls, no matter what they say, love assholes! They love the dangerous guy, the guy with all the testosterone-driven traits that they officially complain about. There are exceptions to everything, but I gentleman will get laid far less than a jerk!
Trannies can be different because some think more like women and some don't. I know that girls have told me I don't get it for free because I don't come around (like Vanessa said I treat them like trannies). But if I don't come around it's because I don't want you like that! There are tgirls I'd love to date, but there are also tgirls I don't want to be around after I cum. If I have to pay, so be it. Like they say you don't pay for the sex, you pay for them to go away.

Mari_Mar
10-10-2010, 11:20 PM
Like they say you don't pay for the sex, you pay for them to go away.

Pffffft! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

tsparisangelline
10-10-2010, 11:20 PM
Ummm, this thread is a FAIL!!

toopretty
10-10-2010, 11:28 PM
Ummm, this thread is a FAIL!!

why do you say that?

tsparisangelline
10-10-2010, 11:42 PM
Because it is all about "how to get laid all the time".

toopretty
10-11-2010, 12:10 AM
Because it is all about "how to get laid all the time".

that wasnt my intention. Its gotten a bit out of context and its partially my fault. So let me rephrase.

It is a truism in life that the majority of desirable women give their time, attention, and bodies to jerks. Is the same with ts's? why or why not?

hows that? lets proceed from there

Mari_Mar
10-11-2010, 12:22 AM
You're talking about a social paradigm centered around the dynamics of gender binary dating. So, I'm going to say that "yes," within the circumstances that a t-girl conforms to that paradigm, she will be just as likely to be wooed by a jerk. But, there are many variances.

I personally don't like jerks, but I do like a guy who is confident, and can even put me in my place every now and then.

toopretty
10-11-2010, 01:04 AM
so many big words that I literally had a siezure and passed out half way through your first sentence

DL_NL
10-11-2010, 01:06 AM
Hahahahaha!

Mari_Mar
10-11-2010, 01:07 AM
so many big words that I literally had a siezure and passed out half way through your first sentence

:oops: :oops: :oops:

SXFX
10-11-2010, 05:46 AM
Yeah it works. Sorry....

scroller
10-11-2010, 05:56 AM
Because it is all about "how to get laid all the time".

Actually, that sounds like "Win".

toopretty
10-11-2010, 06:03 AM
You're talking about a social paradigm centered around the dynamics of gender binary dating. So, I'm going to say that "yes," within the circumstances that a t-girl conforms to that paradigm, she will be just as likely to be wooed by a jerk. But, there are many variances.

I personally don't like jerks, but I do like a guy who is confident, and can even put me in my place every now and then.

what do you mean by put you in your place. Ive always heard girls say that. Ive always thought it means something along the lines of telling her (with words and actions) that im not going to put with her doing things I dont like and if she doesnt stop then I bounce on her, which is what i do.

so whats your definition of put you in your place?

Mari_Mar
10-11-2010, 07:33 AM
I suppose it could mean a lot of things, but nothing violent. I'm thinking more along the lines of a guy possessing the strength of character to apply logic to a situation that I'm being emotional about, and provide the strength to help make the right decision, when I'd rather be naughty. I respect a man who can be an island of strength, in an otherwise temulturous sea...

tsparisangelline
10-11-2010, 08:48 AM
To the men here, you act like a dick with me I dare you

I AM KNOWN TO CHOP OFF BALLS!!!!!!

TSMichelleAustin
10-11-2010, 09:31 AM
I personally have no desire to talk to a guy at the clubs! I want to hang out with my friends and not be bothered! And Im 9 times outta 10 a bitch to a guy who tries to talk to me. Especially if he is trying to play a game! If I am into you, you will know! Other than that, I prefer to be social with my friends!

toopretty
10-11-2010, 10:24 AM
I personally have no desire to talk to a guy at the clubs! I want to hang out with my friends and not be bothered! And Im 9 times outta 10 a bitch to a guy who tries to talk to me. Especially if he is trying to play a game! If I am into you, you will know! Other than that, I prefer to be social with my friends!

Yeh, I never really go up to a girl. Thats pointless, the girl always chooses when it comes to guys and trying to side step that process usually back fires. I know that how it is in movies, with the charming guy just sitting down at a table of girls and whooing them or something, but doing that in real life would just annoy them. If a girl sees a guy across the bar that catches her attention for any reason she will most likely explore it. So, I just wait and let them come to me or let it happen on its own. I just dont drop the ball once I have it.

TSMichelleAustin
10-11-2010, 10:39 AM
Well I have never approached a guy in my life! Even if I think he's hot! I rarely see tgirls go up to guys but girls might! That jerk type guy ur talking about I have no time for. When I was younger but I don't put up with that now! Lol!

Mari_Mar
10-11-2010, 05:48 PM
To the men here, you act like a dick with me I dare you

I AM KNOWN TO CHOP OFF BALLS!!!!!!


Good point! It's like, "if I was more than willing to get rid of mine, how much could I really give a crap for yours!?" ;) ;) ;)

sucka4chix
10-11-2010, 07:15 PM
Good point! It's like, "if I was more than willing to get rid of mine, how much could I really give a crap for yours!?" ;) ;) ;)
Kinda inconsistent to like guys, but not like dicks!

ohioguy13
10-11-2010, 08:59 PM
zzzzzzhaha

Fudge
10-11-2010, 09:53 PM
The more interested you are in them, and they pick up on it, the more likely they are going to ignore you. You don't have to be rude, just self confident, down to earth, decent looking and dressed and slightly uninterested in them. They get real curious and self conscious because your not fitting into the 95% of men sniffing after them. It works, and has always worked for me. Women can smell desperation a mile away, indifference drives them nuts.

Never go grocery shopping on an empty stomach!

Mari_Mar
10-12-2010, 02:05 AM
Kinda inconsistent to like guys, but not like dicks!

Really? So, how's being into chick's without a vag working out for you? ;)

I'm actually just being a smart ass. But, I'm way more into girls than guys. And even when I am into guys, I'm not one of those girls who's "all about the dick."

Besides, we were talking about cutting off the balls, not the dick! ;)