LTR with a postop... or GG instead?

[suchgreatheights]

Hi, I'm new here 23yo and postop. :wink:

As above my question is if you guys would have an LTR with a postop or would rather have an LTR with a GG instead. I do wonder ...since both have the same sexual function in terms of genitals.

Would your intention for LTR be then based simply on mutual chemistry and attraction to her looks?

Would it matter to you if you knew about her being a transgirl if she's postop? Would knowing increase or decrease your attraction and comittment to her?

Sorry to ask so many qns on my debut post but I'm struggling about whether to be open about being trans and whether coming out would reduce my value to guys. I do feel not telling will enable me to have a much larger dating pool but I realised there's too many quirks to go into complete stealth about my past. :roll:

[partlycloudy]

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[suchgreatheights]

Thanks for your reply shayala. My main problem is that in my home country in SE asia, I cannot change my birth certificate (which totally sucks) and I think the BC is required for marriage if I'm a foreigner here.

I'm definitely not thinking of marriage now but I wouldn't know what to do if it comes to that point since I would have to tell. *confused*

[suchgreatheights]

partlycloudy: :D Yeah I really love them.

[BlackAdder]

Please forgive Shalaya's ignorant rantings. Shes only 18 and is more confused then you are.



Your most definetly going to have to tell anyone your interested in that your a post-op ts. Men can become violent if you blind side them with information like that.

As to whether your average man would want a GG or post-op ts for a girlfriend, I would have to say it depends on which age group your looking in as well as whether they want biological children or not....That would be the biggest factor for me personally. Younger guys are going to be looking for possible reproduction, whilst older men might already have fufilled that need and are free to invest time in anyone.

[Vicki Richter]

Can you describe your vagina and where you had it done? I've been looking at them online quite a bit (the SRS ones) and I haven't seen any that look that great. Yours may be great, but I haven't heard really any positive things about them from guys or even many TS.

[suchgreatheights]

hi vicki, I had it done in bangkok with chettawut. Will try to describe it lol though I neva did think about it, here goes, out of topic btw.

I think he's a great doctor if you don't require additional grafts (from the tummy or thigh, if scrotal skin is not enough). I think no grafts in my case made dilating and sex really easy. I haven't dated a guy whom I told and none have said a thing, just maybe that I'm tighter. But then again I don't let guys go down on me.

Appearance wise, I don't know really aesthetically on how to compare to other docs, but mine looks alot like those on anne lawrence's section on chet. (I think most pussies look weird anyway even GG ones so I can't really judge). Personal preference factors in more I guess.

I think most reports of sexual function online is overhyped since alot I read don't sleep with guys. Plus rather than hearing bad things I feel there are too many positive things online based on doctor bias, most are reluctant to say negative things about their doctor.

Orgasm clitorally is really easy, but vaginally is more difficult. There's more feeling in anal penetration imo. Lube is really required to make sex comfy. gross thing about it below is that it smells easily. Most of my friends back home see preecha most and then chet next and have had good results and function - they seem to be more popular than suporn who is a favorite here. IMHO, I feel its better to ask girls who are into guys cos function and appearance would be more relevant (unfortunately alot of online experiences are mixed with 'lesbian' or non sexual TS).

Hope that helps. Do pm me if you wanna ask more.

[Vicki Richter]

hi vicki, I had it done in bangkok with chettawut. Will try to describe it lol though I neva did think about it, here goes, out of topic btw.

I think he's a great doctor if you don't require additional grafts (from the tummy or thigh, if scrotal skin is not enough). I think no grafts in my case made dilating and sex really easy. I haven't dated a guy whom I told and none have said a thing, just maybe that I'm tighter. But then again I don't let guys go down on me.

Appearance wise, I don't know really aesthetically on how to compare to other docs, but mine looks alot like those on anne lawrence's section on chet. (I think most pussies look weird anyway even GG ones so I can't really judge). Personal preference factors in more I guess.

I think most reports of sexual function online is overhyped since alot I read don't sleep with guys. Plus rather than hearing bad things I feel there are too many positive things online based on doctor bias, most are reluctant to say negative things about their doctor.

Orgasm clitorally is really easy, but vaginally is more difficult. There's more feeling in anal penetration imo. Lube is really required to make sex comfy. gross thing about it below is that it smells easily. Most of my friends back home see preecha most and then chet next and have had good results and function - they seem to be more popular than suporn who is a favorite here. IMHO, I feel its better to ask girls who are into guys cos function and appearance would be more relevant (unfortunately alot of online experiences are mixed with 'lesbian' or non sexual TS).

Hope that helps. Do pm me if you wanna ask more.

Thanks so much. That was absolutely the most informative post from another TS I've ever read.

It is nearly impossible for a GG to cum vaginally also, so that isn't any difference... That is really great to hear that you orgasm. I have always had trust issues with other TS lying about it so they didn't seem less than real girls... but I legitimately believe your response.

[suchgreatheights]

Please forgive Shalaya's ignorant rantings. Shes only 18 and is more confused then you are.

Thanks :) but I actually appreciate her comments, I think alot of transgirls go thru alot of social stigma, especially in the process of transition. I was treated really badly as an effeminate gay boy, and I can really see the point of not wanting to be gender or socially variant.


Your most definetly going to have to tell anyone your interested in that your a post-op ts. Men can become violent if you blind side them with information like that.

As to whether your average man would want a GG or post-op ts for a girlfriend, I would have to say it depends on which age group your looking in as well as whether they want biological children or not....That would be the biggest factor for me personally. Younger guys are going to be looking for possible reproduction, whilst older men might already have fufilled that need and are free to invest time in anyone.

Thanks for your opinion. I posted this because most average heterosexual men will freak out if they find out their partner is ts. The guys here though seem to be more accepting but I wonder if guys who are attracted to TS girls will like postops at all. (it just somehow makes sense its more likely that a guy attracted to tgirls in the first place would be more likely to like them as postop - not sure if its simply about having a dick or not)

[BeardedOne]

Girl if you got yo pussy you dont need to be on a forum like this.The men that prowl these alleys are all scumbags.

Well, I was going to say that GG or TS, the only thing that would make a difference to me would be that you weren't a schizophrenic, game-playing psycho like most of my ex-lovers (Primarly GG), but it seems like Ms. S. already made the point another way. :roll:

[Gus The Dagger]

LTR w/GG

[Ecstatic]

Welcome to HA! Different strokes for different folks, and generalizations are easy. Personally I am most attracted to a pre-op TS, but if I were with a pre-op in an LTR and she wanted SRS, then I would be very happy for her and supportive all the way. That's the difference between initial attraction and love, to me. However, I agree that you should be open about it at the onset (well, not necessarily the first date, but very early on) simply because of the "blindside" effect others have mentioned.

[brickcitybrother]

my question is if you guys would have an LTR with a postop or would rather have an LTR with a GG instead. I do wonder ...since both have the same sexual function in terms of genitals.

For the guys on these types of sites - you will find a double edged sword. I think that there will be a minority population that will be very, if not totally accepting. This is the reason they are on sites/forum such as HA. Unfortunately, I also think that there will be a large contigent of men who will do nothing more then spew criticism and hate - because you no longer fit the description of what interests them.

Good Luck.

P.S. I think most men come to realize that 'The heart wants what the heart wants.' It is the real man who then go on to listen to their hearts.

[suchgreatheights]

Thanks guys really appreciate your comments.

Here's a couple of recent pics to give an idea of how I look. I look really pasty and lifeless here w/o makeup (not so stunning and glamourous as some girls here :wink: ).

Please excuse the weird colors I got from fiddling with the pics, I'm no photoshop expert. :lol:

[BlackAdder]

Nice lol...you have exactly the build that I and several other posters here love...Welcome aboard and dont let the trolls we have here bother you:)

[Ecstatic]

Yes, adder, my type of build exactly: slender, fit, just curvy enough. But your best features suchgreatheights are your eyes, your cheeks, your lips. Beautiful.

[roy404]

Can you describe your vagina and where you had it done? I've been looking at them online quite a bit (the SRS ones) and I haven't seen any that look that great. Yours may be great, but I haven't heard really any positive things about them from guys or even many TS.

Vicki you are in the adult dvd business. You should know ther are many post-op ladies working that route as well as topless and nude dancing.

[roy404]

Hi, I'm new here 23yo and postop. :wink:

As above my question is if you guys would have an LTR with a postop or would rather have an LTR with a GG instead. I do wonder ...since both have the same sexual function in terms of genitals.

Would your intention for LTR be then based simply on mutual chemistry and attraction to her looks?

Would it matter to you if you knew about her being a transgirl if she's postop? Would knowing increase or decrease your attraction and comittment to her?

Sorry to ask so many qns on my debut post but I'm struggling about whether to be open about being trans and whether coming out would reduce my value to guys. I do feel not telling will enable me to have a much larger dating pool but I realised there's too many quirks to go into complete stealth about my past. :roll:

I have been in long term relationships with GG's as well as pre and post-op's. I even legally married a post-op lady twice.
I have a past just as most of the women I date do. If you really do care for a person the relationship you have with them should be all you need. If people are your friends they WILL understand.
In 92 I basicly came out on the Geraldo show and I was in business here in Dallas. I did not lose 1 customer or friend. If people are good good will come to them.
Good luck.

[hotfireman69]

I am like Estatic, in that I would prefer pre-op, but it is not about the dick, if I met you, (and you certainly are beautiful) and we got along and the chemistry was there it would not matter what was down below....IMO relationships are based on chemistry, and sexual attraction, but as was said earlier, you should be up front with a man about you SRS when you meet him...

[Thick_Bar]

If I'm attracted to a girl, in every way, if I like her looks, personalitly and values, etc., I wouldn't care if she was a post op, or a gg, though I might prefer a post-op. Even if I did marry a post-op and wanted children, it would still be possible to adopt them.

Also, the same goes for pre-op girls. The qualities I want can be found in all three of these catagories. I do like pre-ops, but I'd rather be with someone I liked the best, than with someone just because they're a pre-op. When I have a gg or post-op gf that I really care about, I am very content.

The marriage situation must be hard if you can't change your sex on your birth certificate. I don't know how you'd get around that. There would be ways to get around some of the difficulties here in the US (like living together as an unmarried couple, and being able to have the same insurance benefits (etc) as a married couple, at least where I work), getting the green card would be tough, but possible.

Anyway, if I met the right girl, and we totally grooved, I'd be down to do anything it would take to make it work, no matter if she was gg, post, or pre-op.

Wecome to the board. Your pics are very pretty!