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YouTube - Lady Gaga joins Maine rally for repeal of 'Don't Ask Don't Tell' sept 20 2010 new (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nBZhiu-35T8&feature=related)
YouTube - Lady Gaga v. John McCain (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrQvFgjIHZ0)
She is a good artist. She's crazy and she does wacky things and dress weird. But I agree with the second video towards the end when she said that she is too wacky for politicians to take her seriously. Which I agree.
She is a good artist. She's crazy and she does wacky things and dress weird. But I agree with the second video towards the end when she said that she is too wacky for politicians to take her seriously. Which I agree.
She is an entertainer. And entertainers aren't taken seriously. But aren't politicians entertainers too??? :)
YouTube - McCain Busted on DADT by Reporters (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XoV5-8pVGbY&feature=channel)
YouTube - Gods Made in Our Image: Politicians As Entertainers (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OjNO2ia06c)
Maybe so, but she really doesn't have any credibility; so the suits in Washington are not going to take her seriously. Bono is an entertainer, but he has credibility.
flabbybody
09-24-2010, 01:27 AM
Lady Gaga commands an audience of millions of kids who's primary news source is youtube and facebook links. I can assure you her massive fan base of teens and 20 somethings takes her deadly serious. To underestimate her influence is extremely naive
you go girl
Bono credible? Seriously? This is a guy who whines about destitute people in Africa and then registers his band as a company in the Netherlands because he can't be bothered to pay taxes. Because oh shit, he might need those millions for something. He then has the balls to try and solve some of Africa's problems by sponsoring a slave mine, more or less, so that he can bleed them dry some more; instead of reading up and figuring out that Africa's problems are down to European interference. But hey, he's just a dumb catholic middle class Irish guy who like most middle class gets his cues from tabloids.
PomonaCA
09-25-2010, 11:25 PM
I find it amusing that gays argue that their sexuality doesn't define them as people and then argue that it's necessary for them to be able to broadcast their sexuality.
hippifried
09-26-2010, 06:46 AM
I find it amusing that gays argue that their sexuality doesn't define them as people and then argue that it's necessary for them to be able to broadcast their sexuality.
That's not the argument, gay boy, & never has been. The gripe is whether or not you should be forced to hide who or what you are. Aren't you tired of the closet?
PomonaCA
09-26-2010, 08:14 PM
That's not the argument, gay boy, & never has been. The gripe is whether or not you should be forced to hide who or what you are. Aren't you tired of the closet?
You mean like straight people are forced to hide their sexuality?
Who's the gay boy? You fucking drama queen. "Forced"? No one is forcing anything here, you just enjoy using dramatic language. Drama is your power.
trish
09-26-2010, 09:10 PM
You mean like straight people are forced to hide their sexuality?No, like gays are FORCED to hide their sexuality. That's what the "don't tell" is all about in "don't ask, don't tell." It seems that the "don't ask, don't tell" policy doesn't adequately cover that fact the most gays forced out of the military didn't tell; they were spied upon and ratted out by those who weren't supposed to ask but couldn't suppress their curiosity...or should I say bi-curiosity.
PomonaCA
09-26-2010, 09:54 PM
No, like gays are FORCED to hide their sexuality. That's what the "don't tell" is all about in "don't ask, don't tell." It seems that the "don't ask, don't tell" policy doesn't adequately cover that fact the most gays forced out of the military didn't tell; they were spied upon and ratted out by those who weren't supposed to ask but couldn't suppress their curiosity...or should I say bi-curiosity.
Are we talking about the law or the enforcement of the law?
trish
09-26-2010, 10:35 PM
The policy is "don't ask, don't tell." What do military courts construe as "telling?" Apparently a superior officer can search your personal belongings, say the text messages on your cell phone, for evidence that you're gay. This does not count as "asking." But if evidence is found, it counts as "telling."
Is this an issue of law or enforcement? Insofar as it involves both the officer conducting the search and the interpretation of the law by the military court it's an issue of both enforcement and the law.
PomonaCA
09-26-2010, 10:38 PM
The policy is "don't ask, don't tell." What do military courts construe as "telling?" Apparently a superior officer can search your personal belongings, say the text messages on your cell phone, for evidence that you're gay. This does not count as "asking." But if evidence is found, it counts as "telling."
Is this an issue of law or enforcement? Insofar as it involves both the officer conducting the search and the interpretation of the law by the military court it's an issue of both enforcement and the law.
So by this logic I suppose people are are getting busted for being straight, too.
trish
09-26-2010, 10:55 PM
No. I don't suppose you can tell us what illogic would lead you to think so.
PomonaCA
09-26-2010, 11:04 PM
No. I don't suppose you can tell us what illogic would lead you to think so.
That's what I'm talking about. Without your typical wordplay, you don't have a leg to stand on.
trish
09-26-2010, 11:09 PM
NO, PLEASE TELL US what logic you use to conclude "people are are getting busted for being straight, too." Start with the premises of "don't ask, don't tell" and lead us step by step (naming the rules of logic as you use them) to the conclusion.
You do understand that the motto "don't ask, don't tell" only abbreviates the actual law which maintains, that you may not ask if a soldier is gay and that no gay soldier may volunteer the information. The law is not symmetric with respect to sexual orientation. The law does not prevent straights from revealing their orientation.
hippifried
09-27-2010, 01:32 AM
You mean like straight people are forced to hide their sexuality?
Who's the gay boy? You fucking drama queen. "Forced"? No one is forcing anything here, you just enjoy using dramatic language. Drama is your power.
You are! If you weren't gay, you wouldn't be in here looking for pictures of big cum squirting dicks. You can lie to yourself all you want, butt boy, but nobody else is stupid enough to buy into your sniveling denials.
PomonaCA
09-27-2010, 01:34 AM
You are! If you weren't gay, you wouldn't be in here looking for pictures of big cum squirting dicks. You can lie to yourself all you want, butt boy, but nobody else is stupid enough to buy into your sniveling denials.
It's the age old question, does liking trannies make me gay? And then you throw in some ridiculous drama. Is that how guys like you go through life?
The policy is "don't ask, don't tell." What do military courts construe as "telling?" Apparently a superior officer can search your personal belongings, say the text messages on your cell phone, for evidence that you're gay. This does not count as "asking." But if evidence is found, it counts as "telling."
Is this an issue of law or enforcement? Insofar as it involves both the officer conducting the search and the interpretation of the law by the military court it's an issue of both enforcement and the law.
It also falls on what branch of service the person belongs to and what command the person belongs to as well. I was in the military and it was common knowledge of who is gay and who isn't. Nobody cared. The CO knew who was gay and who wasn't and it didn't matter. The people who were gay never came out and told the higher ups they were gay, but it was common knowledge. I remember that my supervisor found out that three guys in my division fucked each other. The only thing he said was "Whatever yall do behind closed doors is yall business." As I said, it all depends on what branch of the military you belong to and what command you are at.
I bet it was the NAVY!
Yup, the Navy has some of the best cocksuckers, followed by the Army and then the Marines.
hippifried
09-28-2010, 08:08 AM
It's the age old question, does liking trannies make me gay? And then you throw in some ridiculous drama. Is that how guys like you go through life?
Oh give it up. You're either into dicks or you're not. You'r hangin' out in here. I'm sick to death of weenie peckerwoods like you claiming to be something you're not.
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