What happens to guys and their beautiful TS Secrets?

[Don Pablo]

I mean are all guys that love TS and TV single?? I think not. Do their patners like to join in, or are they secrets - guilty pleasures - for the lucky few? Answers here please!!:Bowdown:

[Richctdude]

secret guilty pleasure!!

[Nicole Dupre]

The level of deceit is mindblowing. And I think the amount of secrecy and guilt they carry around literally drives some of these men insane. But, just like putting our penises in their mouths and letting us penetrate them, they cover it up as best as they can. Occasionally watching them squirm, as they lie on the phone to their families and friends, is one of the most disturbing parts of being a provider imho.

But of course, as transsexuals, we know better than to judge a book by it's cover. ;)

[Don Pablo]

Nicole - thanks for your honesty and candidness. I will return the favour. As someone who has not yet been with a TS, but would like to, I also love my fiance to death. Am I gay? No - I dont want to go with a guy atall. But it somehow turns me on to be with a female dick. Why/how - who knows. The question is do I change my relationship and persuade my fiance to wear a strap-on...or do I go down the guilty pleasure route...to further taint the soul? Questions, questions. But I wanted to create a debate to see what the reality really was like...I mean I guess in the future cross-overs will be normalised more and it will be totally"accepted" to permanently co-habit with a TS and TVs. Right now it seems to be a very small niche as many folk keep their secrets...

[bte]

Everybody has secrets. Whether its secretly drinking some whiskey before you start the day or jacking off to TS porn. I don't think in a relationship that the partner has to be exposed to everything (as long as it is not damaging the partner). If you like TS and your partner doesn't know and you are not buying escorts, then don't tell the spouse. If you like TS and your partner doesn't know and you ARE buying escorts, then tell your partner. Its easy as that. I mean guys who are not into TS don't blab to everyone and say "Yeah I like lesbian porn." or whatever.

[youshouldtrythislol]

Personally, I don't think it is right to see escorts behind your partner's back. I don't think it is fair to them. If you are not hppy in the relationship, maybe its best to end it, then you don't have to go behind anyone's back (unless they bend over and tell you to lol). It shouldn't have to be a secret that you are with a 't'girl.

[Jericho]

I mean guys who are not into TS don't blab to everyone and say "Yeah I like lesbian porn." or whatever.

I dunno about that.
Maybe we drink in different bars, but.... :shrug

[CaptainPlanet]

I dunno about that.
Maybe we drink in different bars, but.... :shrug

Only Guys i know that talk about there porn are between 18-22.
If it wasn't for the secrets half of these TS escorts would be 50-75% out of work. So hate it all you want, there paying your bills.

[Jericho]

Only Guys i know that talk about there porn are between 18-22.

Hang around with many 18-22 year olds?



If it wasn't for the secrets half of these TS escorts would be 50-75% out of work. So hate it all you want, there paying your bills.

Erm, what?
Can we have that again, in english?

[Nicole Dupre]

Nicole - thanks for your honesty and candidness. I will return the favour. As someone who has not yet been with a TS, but would like to, I also love my fiance to death. Am I gay? No - I dont want to go with a guy atall. But it somehow turns me on to be with a female dick. Why/how - who knows. The question is do I change my relationship and persuade my fiance to wear a strap-on...or do I go down the guilty pleasure route...to further taint the soul? Questions, questions. But I wanted to create a debate to see what the reality really was like...I mean I guess in the future cross-overs will be normalised more and it will be totally"accepted" to permanently co-habit with a TS and TVs. Right now it seems to be a very small niche as many folk keep their secrets...
My opinion is that, ultimately, honesty is the best policy. I'd rather be honest, and let the chips fall where they may, than live a lie.

Good luck to you.

[CaptainPlanet]

Hang around with many 18-22 year olds?

Sure do. I work in an industry with all walks of life. I also have a younger brother that is 22.


Erm, what?
Can we have that again, in english?

All im saying is, why do the escorts complain about secrets, when these are obviously the guys that pay to see them the most.

[Nicole Dupre]

All im saying is, why do the escorts complain about secrets, when these are obviously the guys that pay to see them the most.
Who's complaining? All I said was that dishonesty is not optimal. Some people have an understanding in a relationship, and there's an agreement to see other people. If the relationship is flawed, it's not my problem. But it is a bit disturbing to listen to. Maybe more of you should shut your cell phones off in the middle of getting laid. I don't want to know any more about your personal lives, outside of the session, than I have to. Also, if you'd lie to your wife, you'll probably lie to anyone. But do what you have to. Ultimately, who really gives a rat's ass. lol

[bte]

They actually leave their cellphones on during a session. LoL...classic.

[goku]

My opinion is that, ultimately, honesty is the best policy. I'd rather be honest, and let the chips fall where they may, than live a lie.

Good luck to you.


While I have never taken an escort, I used to be like that. I used to hide my TS porn deep in folder after folder on my computer. I always worried that I would be found out.

Now that people know that I like TS, I feel like their is a huge weight lifted off of me. I don't have to worry about anything, I can just be myself. Now don't get me wrong. I don't walk around with an "I like TS women" tshirt on, but I don't hide it. It's funny when someone asks, "You would fuck a Transsexual?" When you look them in the face, and say "hell yeah!", it totally defuses anything they were gonna say.

I had a couple guys ask me at work, "Would you let a Transsexual girl give you a blowjob", then proceeded to snicker. To which I answered, if she went through that much trouble, and spent that much money to look that good, I sure would. Then one of my co-workers said that when he lived in LA he was propositioned by a TS girl who was absolutely gorgeous. He was tempted, but didn't go through with it(probably did but doesn't wanna tell). Everyone else went silent, and I walked off.

[rockabilly]

My opinion is that, ultimately, honesty is the best policy. I'd rather be honest, and let the chips fall where they may, than live a lie.

Good luck to you.

I'll be damned , I actually agree w/ Nicole.

But she's right , the truth shall set you free.

[Don Pablo]

Hell, this is an insightful set of replies. I agree with most elements. Fundamentally, there is no doubt that honesty frees the soul, and living a lie is deeply unhealthy. Being with an escort is bad whatever the sex if you are with a partner: dishonesty and deception sucks, and ultimately crumbles a relationship from within. Sharing this truth though with my partner (that I am attracted to TS/TV in a quasi-fantasy way) would essentially end the relationship of 4 years, and destroy a future together plus kind of undermine my credibility in many family, work and friend circles. It's a journey I would prefer to take in a more elaborate way if I decided to uncover this secret, as the loss and change would be considerable. Anyone in for a rollercoast ride?!!

[goku]

Hell, this is an insightful set of replies. I agree with most elements. Fundamentally, there is no doubt that honesty frees the soul, and living a lie is deeply unhealthy. Being with an escort is bad whatever the sex if you are with a partner: dishonesty and deception sucks, and ultimately crumbles a relationship from within. Sharing this truth though with my partner (that I am attracted to TS/TV in a quasi-fantasy way) would essentially end the relationship of 4 years, and destroy a future together plus kind of undermine my credibility in many family, work and friend circles. It's a journey I would prefer to take in a more elaborate way if I decided to uncover this secret, as the loss and change would be considerable. Anyone in for a rollercoast ride?!!


The best thing to do is not be with an escort. Peeping at TS porn isn't bad, but cheating is cheating. You have to ask yourself if what you have is what you actually want. If it is, then you have to put away your desires, and not succumb to your lust. Its your choice to make.

[Don Pablo]

thanks bro. That's good advice. Gotta sort out the lust thing with the bigger needs and wants. Watch this space....any other xperiences out there??

[CaptainPlanet]

The best thing to do is not be with an escort. Peeping at TS porn isn't bad, but cheating is cheating. You have to ask yourself if what you have is what you actually want. If it is, then you have to put away your desires, and not succumb to your lust. Its your choice to make.

wise man, well said.

[rockabilly]

The best thing to do is not be with an escort. Peeping at TS porn isn't bad, but cheating is cheating. You have to ask yourself if what you have is what you actually want. If it is, then you have to put away your desires, and not succumb to your lust. Its your choice to make.

Well put , you gained much wisdom while walking the earth.

[canihavu]

I mean are all guys that love TS and TV single?? I think not. Do their patners like to join in, or are they secrets - guilty pleasures - for the lucky few? Answers here please!!:Bowdown:


I have been able to keep my "guilty pleasure" a secret from just about everybody I know for 18 years now.

[south ov da border]

My past 2 gf's have known and shared the same interest. I've never had the experience to be with a ts tho...

[Nicole Dupre]

Hell, this is an insightful set of replies. I agree with most elements. Fundamentally, there is no doubt that honesty frees the soul, and living a lie is deeply unhealthy. Being with an escort is bad whatever the sex if you are with a partner: dishonesty and deception sucks, and ultimately crumbles a relationship from within. Sharing this truth though with my partner (that I am attracted to TS/TV in a quasi-fantasy way) would essentially end the relationship of 4 years, and destroy a future together plus kind of undermine my credibility in many family, work and friend circles. It's a journey I would prefer to take in a more elaborate way if I decided to uncover this secret, as the loss and change would be considerable. Anyone in for a rollercoast ride?!!
Just the fact that you're wrestling with this to the extent you are, and you haven't even acted upon the impulse so far, gives me the impression that this will take it's toll on your conscience. But it's when you'd make that jump, from fantasy to reality ie. seeing a provider, that you will more likely reveal guilt in your body language and eyes.

Some men have no sense of guilt or remorse. For them, telling lies is like saying "pass the salt". But, if that's not you, ask yourself if you're ready to bear this burden for the rest of your relationship and/or life.

[LittleGuy]

Im only guilty of coming to this site. I havent fucked a ts before and probably never will.

[south ov da border]

If I do get with a ts, we'll do it together...

[saifan]

In a shaky relationship with a girl right now. She is terrified of meeting friends or family for fear that she'll out me. Even telling her I don't care doesn't seem to help. So for now she is a secret that I hate keeping.

[yodajazz]

My opinion is that, ultimately, honesty is the best policy. I'd rather be honest, and let the chips fall where they may, than live a lie.

Good luck to you.
Some ltr men just feel they need outside sex for happiness. But for many women, knowing this would hurt them. A man should be able to tell if it would hurt her. I think seeing a professional is better than having a outside relationship. It's not that much difference in seeing a ts or a gg, as far as secrets within the relationship. After years go by, sex is less and less a factor in a relationship for most. And then the partner could lose thier desire. So it is difficult to judge what anyone is really going through.

[Nicole Dupre]

Some ltr men just feel they need outside sex for happiness. But for many women, knowing this would hurt them. A man should be able to tell if it would hurt her. I think seeing a professional is better than having a outside relationship. It's not that much difference in seeing a ts or a gg, as far as secrets within the relationship. After years go by, sex is less and less a factor in a relationship for most. And then the partner could lose thier desire. So it is difficult to judge what anyone is really going through.
Sweetheart, he has no hopes of finding an "outside relationship" anyway. The odds of this are almost nil. No TS in their right mind is going to give him one, unless he's lucky. We are rare and exotic creatures, and we know it. So scratch that option.

And why can't I judge what he's going through? He explained it pretty well imo, and asked for feedback.

Sounds like you have a guilty conscience though, and like you're advising him to be dishonest. But misery always loves company, so I'm not shocked.

But you gentlemen do what you must with our blessings. That's why we're here. Like Motel 6, "we'll leave the light on for you". ;)

[Jericho]

In a shaky relationship with a girl right now. She is terrified of meeting friends or family for fear that she'll out me. Even telling her I don't care doesn't seem to help.

Then out yourself...Problem solved! :shrug
(that's not meant to be as glib as it sounds)

[goku]

Some ltr men just feel they need outside sex for happiness. But for many women, knowing this would hurt them. A man should be able to tell if it would hurt her. I think seeing a professional is better than having a outside relationship. It's not that much difference in seeing a ts or a gg, as far as secrets within the relationship. After years go by, sex is less and less a factor in a relationship for most. And then the partner could lose thier desire. So it is difficult to judge what anyone is really going through.


Being dishonest is being dishonest.

In this sense of entitlement society that we live in, people think they have a right to all their desires. Well, your first responsibility is to be true to the person you entered into a contract with, first and foremost. If you know you would have a tough time with that, then don't get married.

The problem is people don't wanna be lonely, but wanna indulge in all their desires, and don't care who they trample along the way. Not only are you hurting that person, but you are altering the way they see relationships for the rest of their life. People should put themselves in others shoes before they commit acts like these.

[archineer]

my attitude is much like goku's- i'm openly bi, single and don't hide my love of ts women. I mean no one seems to care so whats the point?

[Nicole Dupre]

Can I just remind you guys of something? NO WOMAN WANTS TO BE APPROACHED TO PURSUE A LTR SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY'RE TS. We're not apples that you can pick from trees because you know where the orchard is.

As providers, we are giving you a golden opportunity to cut to the chase. You can either tell your SO what you're up to or not. We don't care.

Beyond that, good luck trying to get with us any old time you get a tingle in your BVDs.

[LittleGuy]

finally nicole admits they only care about money

[Nicole Dupre]

Maybe to an intellectual light-weight like you that's what it means, but you're a retarded homo with no friends who can't get laid. Now get back to your flat Earth and stay there, LittlePenis.

[yosi]

Im only guilty of coming to this site. I havent fucked a ts before and probably never will.

no reason to feel guilty , unless you love to feel guilty :banana:

[goku]

my attitude is much like goku's- i'm openly bi, single and don't hide my love of ts women. I mean no one seems to care so whats the point?


LOL


Everything except the "openly bi" thing!!!!!!


Only chicks here my man. GGs or TS, but no men.

(not that's there is anything wrong with that)

[jamiecoxxdotcom]

I won't provide to men who are married. Big ol' disclaimer right in my ad. What's weird is that I get hit up all the time by married men asking if I'll make an exception just this once... they don't even have the wherewithal to lie - as if they get off on the idea of cheating. It's like lying about their marriage would just ruin some part of their fantasy scenario. I tell them that if they try to contact me any further I will tell their wife. I already fucked up one dudes life on Facebook over this exact thing... (I LOVE the idea of forcing people to face the music when they don't mind their P's and Q's.)

[hotnphx]

[QUOTE=jamiecoxxdotcom;795201]I won't provide to men who are married. Big ol' disclaimer right in my ad. What's weird is that I get hit up all the time by married men asking if I'll make an exception just this once... they don't even have the wherewithal to lie - as if they get off on the idea of cheating. It's like lying about their marriage would just ruin some part of their fantasy scenario. I tell them that if they try to contact me any further I will tell their wife. I already fucked up one dudes life on Facebook over this exact thing... (I LOVE the idea of forcing people to face the music when they don't mind their P's and Q's.)[/QUO

Fuckin NICE ,Please tell me it was G.W.Bush..LOL
You being from Texas ..

[giovanni_hotel]

I won't provide to men who are married. Big ol' disclaimer right in my ad. What's weird is that I get hit up all the time by married men asking if I'll make an exception just this once... they don't even have the wherewithal to lie - as if they get off on the idea of cheating. It's like lying about their marriage would just ruin some part of their fantasy scenario. I tell them that if they try to contact me any further I will tell their wife. I already fucked up one dudes life on Facebook over this exact thing... (I LOVE the idea of forcing people to face the music when they don't mind their P's and Q's.)

I'm not presently in a LTR and far from close to being married(!!), but how the heck do you know if a john is married, Jamie??

If a chick is dumb enough to ask, most men are smart enough to lie.

[jamiecoxxdotcom]

I don't know - but will deny service to those who sate that they are. Like I said before so many married men are all too eager to tell you how married they are... they're being so naughty, tee hee... don't I think it's sexy??? NO. I think you should burn in a tire fire.

[rockabilly]

I'm not presently in a LTR and far from close to being married(!!), but how the heck do you know if a john is married, Jamie??

If a chick is dumb enough to ask, most men are smart enough to lie.

Jamie checks their hand , if he has a tan line on his ring finger then that's a clue he may be married and he took off his ring.

[jamiecoxxdotcom]

If they pay in quarter rolls, and old high school football stories it's a pretty safe bet that they are married.

[rockabilly]

"polk high rules!!"

And that's how we went to state and i scored the winning touchdown.

[yodajazz]

I won't provide to men who are married. Big ol' disclaimer right in my ad. What's weird is that I get hit up all the time by married men asking if I'll make an exception just this once... they don't even have the wherewithal to lie - as if they get off on the idea of cheating. It's like lying about their marriage would just ruin some part of their fantasy scenario. I tell them that if they try to contact me any further I will tell their wife. I already fucked up one dudes life on Facebook over this exact thing... (I LOVE the idea of forcing people to face the music when they don't mind their P's and Q's.)

First Nicole says honesty is the best policy, then Jamie says she will penalize men for being honest. Jamie, it's not about the man getting off on cheating; its just more practical to be honest. If one is going to cheat, then the less lies, make things less complicated.

My main point is that we should not judge people, because we do not know all that they are going through. I have a saying, that you can not talk about relationships, unless you have been in one for ten years. And when you get to 15, I'll start listening. So many here seem to have some idealistic view of ltr's, thinking once they get into one they will never cheat, even if it's 20+ years. For one thing, you are bound to get into some serious disagreements in that period of time, as your life takes new direction. You are bound to spend some time apart, if only on business purposes. Maybe that was just at the exact time when you needed someone to tell you that you are still desirable. And I am not telling people to be unfaithful and lie. I'm saying that we should not be so quick judge someone.

[yodajazz]

Sweetheart, he has no hopes of finding an "outside relationship" anyway. The odds of this are almost nil. No TS in their right mind is going to give him one, unless he's lucky. We are rare and exotic creatures, and we know it. So scratch that option.

And why can't I judge what he's going through? He explained it pretty well imo, and asked for feedback.

Sounds like you have a guilty conscience though, and like you're advising him to be dishonest. But misery always loves company, so I'm not shocked.

But you gentlemen do what you must with our blessings. That's why we're here. Like Motel 6, "we'll leave the light on for you". ;)

I was not limiting 'outside sex' to ts women. As far as needing sex in general, some friends who work at nursing homes told be about the seniors there, hooking up.

It sounded to me like you were talking in general not a specific person. But men in general have problems in talking about their emotions with other men. They often don't have an emotional outlet, when things go wrong at home. So in many cases, an outside fling, is as much about an emotional connection as it is sex.

Lastly, if I am miserable, I dont want someone to join me. I want others to be free to find their own happiness. But also happy people want others to find the happiness they have found. I have peace, and I want the world to have it to.

[jamiecoxxdotcom]

If a dude lies then the onus is on him.
If he's honest, well - I'm not punishing anyone. That's not my job, but I'm not obligated to service anyone I don't see fit. Besides, being honest about having a wife is pale fucking version of honesty. If the dude was truly honest he wouldn't be screwing around on his wife... he'd get a divorce or (here's a novel fuckin' thought) not get married in the first place. If you think cheating is an inevitability you're drastically fatalistic at best and a god-damned sociopath at worst. I don't have to be a party to anyone's infidelity. Fuck married dudes.



First Nicole says honesty is the best policy, then Jamie says she will penalize men for being honest. Jamie, it's not about the man getting off on cheating; its just more practical to be honest. If one is going to cheat, then the less lies, make things less complicated.

My main point is that we should not judge people, because we do not know all that they are going through. I have a saying, that you can not talk about relationships, unless you have been in one for ten years. And when you get to 15, I'll start listening. So many here seem to have some idealistic view of ltr's, thinking once they get into one they will never cheat, even if it's 20+ years. For one thing, you are bound to get into some serious disagreements in that period of time, as your life takes new direction. You are bound to spend some time apart, if only on business purposes. Maybe that was just at the exact time when you needed someone to tell you that you are still desirable. And I am not telling people to be unfaithful and lie. I'm saying that we should not be so quick judge someone.

[yodajazz]

If a dude lies then the onus is on him.
If he's honest, well - I'm not punishing anyone. That's not my job, but I'm not obligated to service anyone I don't see fit. Besides, being honest about having a wife is pale fucking version of honesty. If the dude was truly honest he wouldn't be screwing around on his wife... he'd get a divorce or (here's a novel fuckin' thought) not get married in the first place. If you think cheating is an inevitability you're drastically fatalistic at best and a god-damned sociopath at worst. I don't have to be a party to anyone's infidelity. Fuck married dudes.

I don't think cheating is inevitable. But if it happens, its not my call how wrong it is. Quite a few people in relationships get caught cheating, and they work their way through it. And some people can't afford the tens of thousands of dollars, a divorce would cost. So they do their best to muddle through, finding a momeint of pleasure. Of course you dont have to see anyone that you don't want to. But the other side of it, is that you could be saving a life. Some married dudes get so twisted with their lack of emotional outlets. We had two high profile cases of men killing their spouses recently. Seems like they could not see life outside their relationship. It wasn't about cheating, the women just wanted to leave. Those couples would have been better off it the man had hired an escort and chilled th f out.

[Dkg]

Well, I'm in a relationship but currently looking to get out of it. That said I could never see myself cheating on her. Right now I'm just looking and if I were to find someone else then I'd end it with my current before doing anything with the new girl.
Does hanging out with a girl that you are interested in (just getting to know her) still constitute as "cheating"?

[goku]

If the dude was truly honest he wouldn't be screwing around on his wife... he'd get a divorce or (here's a novel fuckin' thought) not get married in the first place. If you think cheating is an inevitability you're drastically fatalistic at best and a god-damned sociopath at worst. I don't have to be a party to anyone's infidelity. Fuck married dudes.


Exactly!!!

Just be single. People act like it's so fucking hard to be single. In most cases, people know going in about their wants and desires. Why you would drag someone into your bullshit for the sake of "being comfortable" is beyond me. Women are guilty of it too, marrying for money, when they know damn well they barely even like the guy.

I know full well the things in my heart, and I am not walking down the aisle until I get them sorted out. It's as simple as that. I am not going to ruin a girl, and give her trust issues for the rest of her life, simply because I wanna have my cake and eat it too. Grow a fucking set already people. Man up and face life head on. Quit conducting all your bullshit in the shadows already.

[amberskyi]

Exactly!!!

Just be single. People act like it's so fucking hard to be single. In most cases, people know going in about their wants and desires. Why you would drag someone into your bullshit for the sake of "being comfortable" is beyond me. Women are guilty of it too, marrying for money, when they know damn well they barely even like the guy.

I know full well the things in my heart, and I am not walking down the aisle until I get them sorted out. It's as simple as that. I am not going to ruin a girl, and give her trust issues for the rest of her life, simply because I wanna have my cake and eat it too. Grow a fucking set already people. Man up and face life head on. Quit conducting all your bullshit in the shadows already.

ohhh.i like this comment

[Legend]

Exactly!!!

Just be single. People act like it's so fucking hard to be single. In most cases, people know going in about their wants and desires. Why you would drag someone into your bullshit for the sake of "being comfortable" is beyond me. Women are guilty of it too, marrying for money, when they know damn well they barely even like the guy.

I know full well the things in my heart, and I am not walking down the aisle until I get them sorted out. It's as simple as that. I am not going to ruin a girl, and give her trust issues for the rest of her life, simply because I wanna have my cake and eat it too. Grow a fucking set already people. Man up and face life head on. Quit conducting all your bullshit in the shadows already.

Nicely said!

[jamiecoxxdotcom]

SAVE A LIFE? You are horrible at rationalizing - Dude, if fucking some guy is the only thing that will keep him from MURDERING someone then that guy was a lost cause from the womb. What's with your whole transference of obligation from the married man to the hooker or the wife or the mistress? You're a spooky dude.




I don't think cheating is inevitable. But if it happens, its not my call how wrong it is. Quite a few people in relationships get caught cheating, and they work their way through it. And some people can't afford the tens of thousands of dollars, a divorce would cost. So they do their best to muddle through, finding a momeint of pleasure. Of course you dont have to see anyone that you don't want to. But the other side of it, is that you could be saving a life. Some married dudes get so twisted with their lack of emotional outlets. We had two high profile cases of men killing their spouses recently. Seems like they could not see life outside their relationship. It wasn't about cheating, the women just wanted to leave. Those couples would have been better off it the man had hired an escort and chilled th f out.

[fred41]

Exactly!!!

Just be single. People act like it's so fucking hard to be single. In most cases, people know going in about their wants and desires. Why you would drag someone into your bullshit for the sake of "being comfortable" is beyond me. Women are guilty of it too, marrying for money, when they know damn well they barely even like the guy.

I know full well the things in my heart, and I am not walking down the aisle until I get them sorted out. It's as simple as that. I am not going to ruin a girl, and give her trust issues for the rest of her life, simply because I wanna have my cake and eat it too. Grow a fucking set already people. Man up and face life head on. Quit conducting all your bullshit in the shadows already.

I agree with everything you say...almost. What I will say though is that a lot of people , especially women...get married...not so much for money, but to have children.

Also a lot of people still get married at a fairly young age (sometimes the reason being...the child came first)...and often time the issues DON'T come up before the wedding...a lot of changes happen in a person in between the beginning and the end of a long term marriage. If you folks believe that you remain the same person after a couple of decades then you're either blind or just too young. I only bring this up to show people that you can't always be precognizant of what's going to happen in the future of a relationship.

I will say one thing though..a lot of threads like this begin..."I'm engaged..", "have a fiance.."..."...and" have these strong feelings.." Look, if you're going to go into a marriage with the idea that you might cheat or wish to before you even tie the knot...then what the hell are you doing?!! To me...you're not ready for marriage...and please don't string a girl along indefinitely because,..as was said - you want to have your cake and eat it too. Let her find a guy who doesn't already have all these issues so that she's got a better shot at a strong marriage from the get go.

[yodajazz]

SAVE A LIFE? You are horrible at rationalizing - Dude, if fucking some guy is the only thing that will keep him from MURDERING someone then that guy was a lost cause from the womb. What's with your whole transference of obligation from the married man to the hooker or the wife or the mistress? You're a spooky dude.

That's only an extreme case. My point is that for some, having a sexual outlet is a release from lifes' other frusatrations. Men in general don't talk to other men on an emotional level. They reserve much of their emotional release to talking with thier women partners, or a woman relative. But when things go bad in the relationship, they sometimes have no where to turn. So cases like you, who would refuse to provide service/comfort to a man because he is married, only add to his frustrations. And saying that men should not get into ltr relationships, is simplistic. Everyone goes into them witlh the best of expectations, however life brings changes. Maybe you will understand after you have invested 15+ years into one relationship.

I have my own outlets, so I don't have to cheat with others. However I'm not condemning someone else who decides to do it.

[amberskyi]

being an escort has given me severe trust issues with men.reading some of these replies strangely both reaffirms and challenges them.

[south ov da border]

I was with my girl and we're having sex and in the middle she stops me and asks what do I want to do with a shemale, screw, get screwed, suck, etc. She then told me that it's ok but she has to be there with us. My girl rocks...

[Nivek]

is my fascination Secret? yes, but I carry no amount of guilt at all. I know what turns me on, what i find pleasing and what makes me worked up. I wouldn't hide it from other people but at the same time i wouldn't start wearing billboards announcing my sexual preferences just as I wouldn't invade anyone else's privacy regarding sexual orientation, fetishes, preferences, etc. As Long as Children and animals aren't involved, I say live your life and fulfill your dreams, goals, and sexual desires. The only guilt I'd ever have is not acting on my sexual desires and dreams and one day being too damn old to do anything about it!

[cubano008]

i am married, but thankfully my wife is into it and we watch ts porn together, and there has been some contemplating a 3-some with a Ts. I was honest with her in regards to having gone out with a TS before...she doesn't hold this against me in arguments or when angry, which i had though she would do based on some bad reactions other guys' wifes/gf have

[jamiecoxxdotcom]

Again - you are a spooky dude... You might go into a relationship with the best expectations but if shit goes south most people have the wherewithal not to fucking murder over it. You must be a defense lawyer or something - Your sense of civility is seriously screwy.


That's only an extreme case. My point is that for some, having a sexual outlet is a release from lifes' other frusatrations. Men in general don't talk to other men on an emotional level. They reserve much of their emotional release to talking with thier women partners, or a woman relative. But when things go bad in the relationship, they sometimes have no where to turn. So cases like you, who would refuse to provide service/comfort to a man because he is married, only add to his frustrations. And saying that men should not get into ltr relationships, is simplistic. Everyone goes into them witlh the best of expectations, however life brings changes. Maybe you will understand after you have invested 15+ years into one relationship.

I have my own outlets, so I don't have to cheat with others. However I'm not condemning someone else who decides to do it.

[Amsterdamage]

being an escort has given me severe trust issues with men.reading some of these replies strangely both reaffirms and challenges them.

honestly...not to be kissing asses or anything cause ppl who read my posts know i ain't nothing like that at all, but i seriously doubt you'd have anything to worry about if you'd become somebody's steady gf....

[WendyY0143]

Hey all;

My wife and I have been together since early 1978. She knows of my interests and has even watched some TS videos with me. Her interest, though, is peripheral to mine, just a little bit of spice as it were.

However, I have never stepped out on her and wouldn't. I believe that she has the same commitment to me.

I like looking at pretty women; everything a TS woman has is another facet of beauty. I do also like looking at handsome men.

One can appreciate from afar.

Would I sample the "goodies" if I were unattached, yes.

take care - Wendall (with the bit of Wendy inside)

[amberskyi]

honestly...not to be kissing asses or anything cause ppl who read my posts know i ain't nothing like that at all, but i seriously doubt you'd have anything to worry about if you'd become somebody's steady gf....

why wouldnt i have to worry?

[Amsterdamage]

no i said: i DOUBT that you would have to worry.
in other words: i don't think you would have to worry.
meaning: there would have to be something terribly wrong with a guy if he would have you as his gf and still cheat on you..

it was a compliment. i don't give those out that much so i'm not very good at it. lol

[tsparisangelline]

no i said: i DOUBT that you would have to worry.
in other words: i don't think you would have to worry.
meaning: there would have to be something terribly wrong with a guy if he would have you as his gf and still cheat on you..

it was a compliment. i don't give those out that much so i'm not very good at it. lol

hmmm, then you must not know men.

Men if you have not noticed cheat on the more attractive girls with the less attractive.

[amberskyi]

no i said: i DOUBT that you would have to worry.
in other words: i don't think you would have to worry.
meaning: there would have to be something terribly wrong with a guy if he would have you as his gf and still cheat on you..

it was a compliment. i don't give those out that much so i'm not very good at it. lol

ohh...duh...lol..i can be so clueless sometimes.thanks tho.is that you in profile pic??

[Amsterdamage]

yes of course lol why?

@paris: what you say makes no sense, but maybe i'm different then

[tsparisangelline]

@paris: what you say makes no sense, but maybe i'm different then

Hmmmmm, do you want me to bring in proof?
You obviously have never seen a situation where a guy cheats

LOL so YOU only cheat with girls that look better than your current girlfriend?

(just caught how he said "I am different")

[Amsterdamage]

proof? no i don't need proof, why? as if i care? if you say that that's case then so be it. i'm just saying, to me it makes no sense why a guy would cheat on a girl less attractive than his own girl. it's like...finally getting that Mercedes Benz SL65 AMG you always dreamed of, but start rolling in a Hyundai every now and then after a couple of months....

oh and i'm not gonna comment on your silly remark where you indirectly suggest that i'm a cheater.....

[tsparisangelline]

Hey you said it, not I!

(plus you are the one with a real life girlfriend, but enough time to converse on a sex site too though)

(Might I add you hold very thorough conversations on this site, even on sunny days)

so........................................

You already know!

[Amsterdamage]

what? since when is this exclusively a sex site? and who says i have a girl now? and even if i had a girl, who says she wouldn't be aware of me being on this forums? would i post several face pics of myself in that facepic thread if i had anything to hide?

ugh i always think to myself 'why do all these people let themselves end up in pointless discussions with this paris chick?!' and now i'm doing it myself. it ends here.

[amberskyi]

yes of course lol why?

@paris: what you say makes no sense, but maybe i'm different then

your really cute.too bad your in europe

[Amsterdamage]

lol, is it? i love america but (un)fortunately living in europe generally still is in many ways a lot healthier than living in the US....so....c'mere! lol

oh and thank you :)

[amberskyi]

lol, is it? i love america but (un)fortunately living in europe generally still is in many ways a lot healthier than living in the US....so....c'mere! lol

oh and thank you :)


yea america kinda sucks.lol.i try to leave every chance i get.i would luv to go,i havent been since i was little but europe is soo expensive.

[Amsterdamage]

not anymore, well maybe places like London and Paris and Milano are still relatively expensive but most Dutch and German and Spanish places for instance are very doable now.....viva la crisis!

oh wait...are we going off topich here? lol sorry

[tsparisangelline]

what? since when is this exclusively a sex site? and who says i have a girl now? and even if i had a girl, who says she wouldn't be aware of me being on this forums? would i post several face pics of myself in that facepic thread if i had anything to hide?

ugh i always think to myself 'why do all these people let themselves end up in pointless discussions with this paris chick?!' and now i'm doing it myself. it ends here.


my gf 'caught' me once, as in i have a TS friend in my blackberry messenger, and she found out. it wasnt like i was keeping it a secret but i wasn't blatent about it either. and her and i have normal conversations, no dirty talk, so yeah not a big deal, but i do have a couple of TS friends in my facebook so she is kinda starting to develop some concerns now...more 'competition' for her..you know how girls think haha. anyway i'm a good boy. mostly.

lol that is why i said u have a girl!

[Amsterdamage]

well i'm flattered how you remember my posts from the past

[tsparisangelline]

well i'm flattered how you remember my posts from the past

I remember everything EVERYONE SAYS.