What's Wrong With Transsexual Porn Part 2: Huge lacking of passable American Tgirls

[TSPornFan]

The biggest criticism I give to transsexual is the lack of passable girls. I see so many hot tgirls on escorts pages, but very few girls on the escort scene are pornstars. Girls like Yasmin Lee, Natassia Dreams, Kimber James, Victoria Di Prada, TS Doll, Jessica Host, Jessica Fox, Celeste, Jezebel, Bailey Jay, etc are passable. However the majority of tgirls in porn are very masculine(I will not name any). However in Latina and Asian tgirl porn a lot of the girls are passable.

One thing that is said by tgirl porn producers is that transsexual porn is targeted to straight men. How can this be when most of these are not passable and are very masculine? This is a complete contradiction. The majority of straight men do not want masculine women and tgirls.

One problem in this is the fact that most tgirl chasers and porn viewers constantly request non-passable tgirls. So again this is not targeting straight men. This is more like targeting homosexual and bisexual men.

I would love to see more passable American tgirls in porn. I see passable tgirls from all over the world in porn, but very few passable American tgirls. I don't watch porn of a different language simply because I don't understand it and I want to know what is happening in the story.

Well that's my opinion. Discuss

[goku]

This is easy!


There is shitty TS porn just like there is shitty mainstream porn. In the B-rated mainstream porn, the actors are a lot less attractive. Go pick up one of those 19.99 four hour jobs, and you will see what I mean.


TS porn is no different. All the top notch talent requires a higher check, so companies go to the lesser talent to make the cheaper movies.

Another thing is that some girls transition while making porn. They use the funds to get the surgeries they want. It really is self explanatory, and not everyone can afford the 60 dollar movies, so there will always be a slot for them.

[bat1]

you get what you pay for...

[TSPornFan]

"I get what I paid for". This has NOTHING to do with this. Tgirl sites that have American tgirls cost between 18 and 35 bucks a month depending on if you can find discounts. All of these sites feature passable and non-passable tgirls. Overall there are a lot more non-passable than passable girls. Shemale Pornstars is 29 bucks a month and they feature passable and non-

In straight porn sites like Brazzers and Naughty American shoot the best girls and you pay CHEAPER monthly payments than transsexual porn. Again how much you pay is not a major factor for quality of girls

[SunshyneMonroe]

ill be doin some shoots soon baby ull have all the fish u could ask for...

[shemale-411]

Gawd what a freakin whiny bitch. Piss and moans that there are no passable escorts to lose his virginity to. The girl in his class is just starting transition. The TS porn producers in the US don't use enough pasable girls for him to wank to....And I notice his top model according to his profile is Kimber James.

Franklin, stop trying to change the world to your ideal of what a TS should look like, and good luck changing an entire industry.

My suggestion is to quit your fucking whining and bitching and do something if you feel so strongly about it. That something being move after this semester to somewhere more suiting to your tastes, L.A., NYC, Chicago. Your ideal girls, Kimber James or Bailey Jay are women who went through alot to get to where they are, and had a very specific goal. If you want that in a woman , man up and go where they are more available, instead of bumfuque Tenn, or quit yer bitchin!

http://www.shemale-411.com

[sdman]

that's why I love asian girls most of them are small and passable and there's lot of hispanic girls who are passable. there's not too many white or black trannys that appear to be passable.

[drock]

ill be doin some shoots soon baby ull have all the fish u could ask for...


And then what you gone have all the brothas feining for some of that phat juicy ass, and bring your back in here talking shit about why you won't give us none of it cause you think we're all criminals...

[blackrob]

The biggest criticism I give to transsexual is the lack of passable girls. I see so many hot tgirls on escorts pages, but very few girls on the escort scene are pornstars. Girls like Yasmin Lee, Natassia Dreams, Kimber James, Victoria Di Prada, TS Doll, Jessica Host, Jessica Fox, Celeste, Jezebel, Bailey Jay, etc are passable. However the majority of tgirls in porn are very masculine(I will not name any). However in Latina and Asian tgirl porn a lot of the girls are passable.

One thing that is said by tgirl porn producers is that transsexual porn is targeted to straight men. How can this be when most of these are not passable and are very masculine? This is a complete contradiction. The majority of straight men do not want masculine women and tgirls.

One problem in this is the fact that most tgirl chasers and porn viewers constantly request non-passable tgirls. So again this is not targeting straight men. This is more like targeting homosexual and bisexual men.

I would love to see more passable American tgirls in porn. I see passable tgirls from all over the world in porn, but very few passable American tgirls. I don't watch porn of a different language simply because I don't understand it and I want to know what is happening in the story.

Well that's my opinion. Discuss

I watch a lot of brizilian porn them bitches are beautiful and passable. I dont care if I dont understand what theyre saying I know what theyre doing and there really isnt a need to have too many words in porn just good fucking.

[sunairco]

Maybe if this country wasn't so fucked up about gender dysphoria and transition could start occuring at younger ages like it does in other countries, what you consider "passibility" would be more common. That word sort of bothers me as it's placing an objective label on someone and revealing quite a bit about the insecurity of person saying it.

[TsJizelle]

in my personal experience with the girls...the passable 'americanized' girls tend to remain strictly as SPs and for the most part like to remain stealth. so lots don't wish to do porn

[correa]

Most of the American TS in porn are pretty passable to me with the exception of one.

[TSPornFan]

Gawd what a freakin whiny bitch. Piss and moans that there are no passable escorts to lose his virginity to. The girl in his class is just starting transition. The TS porn producers in the US don't use enough pasable girls for him to wank to....And I notice his top model according to his profile is Kimber James.

Franklin, stop trying to change the world to your ideal of what a TS should look like, and good luck changing an entire industry.

My suggestion is to quit your fucking whining and bitching and do something if you feel so strongly about it. That something being move after this semester to somewhere more suiting to your tastes, L.A., NYC, Chicago. Your ideal girls, Kimber James or Bailey Jay are women who went through alot to get to where they are, and had a very specific goal. If you want that in a woman , man up and go where they are more available, instead of bumfuque Tenn, or quit yer bitchin!

http://www.shemale-411.com

What the fuck are you talking about? I NEVER said there are a lack of hot escorts. Can you fucking read?

I am NOT trying to get with the tgirl in my class. I just simply mention there is a tgirl in my class and asked if this has happen to anyone else.

Don't twist around what was said dumbass bitch.

[alyssaluxor]

i think because in real life many TS admirer/chasers likes also some not that passable TS girls and a little bit of manly looking

for example me i sometimes receive calls and email from possible client but they would say im not their type because im passable and look so soft for them, they like TS girls who look strong, rough and musculine.

and another example the most popular Asian TS escorts/pornstars in Asia are not even passable and feminine at all. i guess most guys prefer that :/

just my 2 cents worth

[MDM23]

i think because in real life many TS admirer/chasers likes also some not that passable TS girls and a little bit of manly looking

for example me i sometimes receive calls and email from possible client but they would say im not their type because im passable and look so soft for them, they like TS girls who look strong, rough and musculine.

and another example the most popular Asian TS escorts/pornstars in Asia are not even passable and feminine at all. i guess most guys prefer that :/

just my 2 cents worth

Lol you talk the biggest amount of shite!!!!!!!!!!

[mrtalentagent]

Remember in other countries prostitution is cheap compare to the united states from money earn to money spent ratio. In other countries you would have to do a lot of prostitution to get a pair of breasts while in america you probably can have 10 escort sessions to pay for 1 pair of breasts.

Doing tranny videos at the most is 10k per session which isn't a lot compare to remain steath and doing escorting. Passable tgirl escorts are way more expensive because there are rich men who have a tranny fetish.

In the United States being a passable tranny escort is very lucrative. More lucrative than being in tranny porn. There aren't a lot of passable girls and there aren't a lot of tgirls out there. Rich men will try trannys atleast once because normal girls do get boring.

The average straight man who got into tranny porn is because they were bored with straight porn. This is the same with rich men and escorts eventually they would be bored with hot girls and want to try something new. The passable ones that are hot always will be expensive because there are alway men willing to pay for them.

In other countries passable girls get paid way less because prostitution in other countries is legal is is not even regulated there are no negative repercussion.

[alyssaluxor]

Lol you talk the biggest amount of shite!!!!!!!!!!

lol its true in Asia most of the in demand TS girls are not even passable and feminine. whenever we TS girls met and have dinner together this TS girls doesnt ran out of calls from their phones. they are not passable at all but they have big DICK since they dont take any hormones since birth. they usually look like a man with a wig in person but they airbrush a little bit the pictures they post online. most expats/westerners in Asia love them a lot ;)

and also who are the most popular TS pornstar in Asia? they are not even passable right? the only passable TS pornstar in Asia that ive notice is Amy ;)

http://www.ladyboyamy.com/ladyboy-amy.jpg

[MDM23]

So you're basically saying most western guys want to go with a gay guy in a wig?

Sorry but that's not what I've seen to be honest. Most go for asians cos they're passable unlike most most of the white/black 'girls'

[alyssaluxor]

I
So you're basically saying most western guys want to go with a gay guy in a wig?

Sorry but that's not what I've seen to be honest. Most go for asians cos they're passable unlike most most of the white/black 'girls'

Youre the one who said that not me ;)

[Gthoma2a]

Amy Amour is very passable. I think Moo is hot and so is Kae IMO. I think they are passable. Maybe they aren't as big there, though. I don't know the obsession with some, though. I don't care for Mint that much personally, but those and Lee from the little asian transsexual series are sexy and passable to me.

[alyssaluxor]

Amy Amour is very passable. I think Moo is hot and so is Kae IMO. I think they are passable. Maybe they aren't as big there, though. I don't know the obsession with some, though. I don't care for Mint that much personally, but those and Lee from the little asian transsexual series are sexy and passable to me.


A good example of what im talking about, im not the who brought up her name ok. Mint is like number 1 or 2 most popular TS escort/pornstar in Asia but with no offense at all just being honest shes not passable right? But most guys like her ;)

[Gthoma2a]

I understand that there is a weird market, but passable SHOULD be the goal... I don't get why anybody would want (if they are picking) anything less from a girl. I would rather be with a passable girl with soft features. Or in other words, if the world were sane, you would be one of the most prized in all of Asia rather than a girl with no figure beyond her cock. I suppose that would make it a better market for American porn makers. The beautiful passable girls are less in demand in their countries, so the most beautiful girls are cheaper. Hard to get my head around, but it must be true.

[traLika]

In a way TS porn is where str8 porn and gay porn overlap (like in a Venn diagram), so it seems inevitable that it has two distinct 'sub-cultures'. The str8 guys like pretty, feminine girls while the gay guys prefer more masculine features. (Of course, I'm generalizing - some like a bit of both...)

I generally only like the pretty girls but I think variety shouldn't be discouraged...

[AmyDaly]

Passable and pretty to Franklin is sticking things that look like water balloons in your chest.

How about this...

Whats wrong with transsexual porn:

Guys who start threads like this and trick girls to think that they need all kinds of surgery to be passable.



Surgery looks good in photos, but in real life its a dead give away.

[TSPornFan]

Being passable is being physically feminine with the clothes on and OFF. I see some girls who look passable with their clothes on but when they are off then they look masculine.

[Jericho]

Being passable is being physically feminine with the clothes on and OFF. I see some girls who look passable with their clothes on but when they are off then they look masculine.


Yeah, they got that big ole masculine cock! :rolleyes:

[TSPornFan]

I was referring to more than just a cock.

[mrtalentagent]

Maybe the not so passable ones give better service. I would think 80% of the trannys clients are repeat customers.

[Jericho]

I was referring to more than just a cock.

If you read between the lines...So was i!

[Gthoma2a]

Passable and pretty to Franklin is sticking things that look like water balloons in your chest.

How about this...

Whats wrong with transsexual porn:

Guys who start threads like this and trick girls to think that they need all kinds of surgery to be passable.



Surgery looks good in photos, but in real life its a dead give away.

Says a very passable girl. I don't like all the surgeries personally. A lot of my favorites haven't had any or hadn't when I started liking them.

[rockabilly]

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

:shrug:

[Gthoma2a]

Cliche, but it fits!

[ghbryans1]

What's wrong? What's not? Overly bright lighting, gurls who look like they're bored or on a combination of Zanax and viagra, no tease, and a nearly universal misunderstanding of what's sexy. There are of course exceptions, but they're far between.

What's sexy? Passion, seduction, lust, and sexual emotion and abandon. Pros going through the motions, reciting glib dialog, or putting on an act ain't.

[Silcc69]

Amy looks pretty and passable but anyways I think a good chunk of guys are powerbottoms that luv huge cocks in there arses and great big ole loads.

[Solitary Brother]

The biggest criticism I give to transsexual is the lack of passable girls. I see so many hot tgirls on escorts pages, but very few girls on the escort scene are pornstars. Girls like Yasmin Lee, Natassia Dreams, Kimber James, Victoria Di Prada, TS Doll, Jessica Host, Jessica Fox, Celeste, Jezebel, Bailey Jay, etc are passable. However the majority of tgirls in porn are very masculine(I will not name any). However in Latina and Asian tgirl porn a lot of the girls are passable.

One thing that is said by tgirl porn producers is that transsexual porn is targeted to straight men. How can this be when most of these are not passable and are very masculine? This is a complete contradiction. The majority of straight men do not want masculine women and tgirls.

One problem in this is the fact that most tgirl chasers and porn viewers constantly request non-passable tgirls. So again this is not targeting straight men. This is more like targeting homosexual and bisexual men.

I would love to see more passable American tgirls in porn. I see passable tgirls from all over the world in porn, but very few passable American tgirls. I don't watch porn of a different language simply because I don't understand it and I want to know what is happening in the story.

Well that's my opinion. Discuss


I have been saying this for years and been called a hater.
Your spot on.

[Solitary Brother]

lol its true in Asia most of the in demand TS girls are not even passable and feminine. whenever we TS girls met and have dinner together this TS girls doesnt ran out of calls from their phones. they are not passable at all but they have big DICK since they dont take any hormones since birth. they usually look like a man with a wig in person but they airbrush a little bit the pictures they post online. most expats/westerners in Asia love them a lot ;)

and also who are the most popular TS pornstar in Asia? they are not even passable right? the only passable TS pornstar in Asia that ive notice is Amy ;)

http://www.ladyboyamy.com/ladyboy-amy.jpg


I have been saying this for years.
Your spot on.

[MrWonderful]

I was thinking the same thoughts about alyssaluxor. Whenever I read her comments what comes to mind is the old saying "believe half of what you see and even less of what you hear."

Lol you talk the biggest amount of shite!!!!!!!!!!

[BrendaQG]

It's basic supply and demand economics. If you see certain kinds of girls in porn, it's because of the demand for that kind of girl in porn. Porn is not like say, food, it's all about what's in demand and people can live without it.

What's in demand in tranny porn for allot of American men is a big dick that cums allot. If it's attached to a passable, beautiful tranny that's good too. If it's attached to Kobe Bryant in a dress and wig, that's also good.

Men who actually go see escorts are a little different. They are into different things... if they generally top or are flexible then looks matter to them. If they are all about being anally violated then looks don't matter to them.

The above are not value judgements, just my observations. Different people get hard to different things.

[MrWonderful]

You are very funny. I could not stop laughing when I read this.



What's in demand in tranny porn for allot of American men is a big dick that cums allot.

[alyssaluxor]

I was thinking the same thoughts about alyssaluxor. Whenever I read her comments what comes to mind is the old saying "believe half of what you see and even less of what you hear."

what shite you are talking about and ill prove you WRONG?! ;)

and why so defensive and agitated with my post? because its true and 'YOU' getting affected by it?

kisses
Alyssa Luxor

[alyssaluxor]

It's basic supply and demand economics. If you see certain kinds of girls in porn, it's because of the demand for that kind of girl in porn. Porn is not like say, food, it's all about what's in demand and people can live without it.

What's in demand in tranny porn for allot of American men is a big dick that cums allot. If it's attached to a passable, beautiful tranny that's good too. If it's attached to Kobe Bryant in a dress and wig, that's also good.

Men who actually go see escorts are a little different. They are into different things... if they generally top or are flexible then looks matter to them. If they are all about being anally violated then looks don't matter to them.

The above are not value judgements, just my observations. Different people get hard to different things.

+1

now you guys here believe me some guys here have same opinions as me ;)

[alyssaluxor]

It's basic supply and demand economics. If you see certain kinds of girls in porn, it's because of the demand for that kind of girl in porn. Porn is not like say, food, it's all about what's in demand and people can live without it.

What's in demand in tranny porn for allot of American men is a big dick that cums allot. If it's attached to a passable, beautiful tranny that's good too. If it's attached to Kobe Bryant in a dress and wig, that's also good.

Men who actually go see escorts are a little different. They are into different things... if they generally top or are flexible then looks matter to them. If they are all about being anally violated then looks don't matter to them.

The above are not value judgements, just my observations. Different people get hard to different things.

I concur mostly thats what ive noticed also ;)

[steeveX]

A good example of what im talking about, im not the who brought up her name ok. Mint is like number 1 or 2 most popular TS escort/pornstar in Asia but with no offense at all just being honest shes not passable right? But most guys like her ;)

Just because one guy always almost obsessively bumps that thread with pix of "Mint" doesn'T mean shit. Mint got thrown out in those knockout threads fairly early.

[Schimmel]

Gawd what a freakin whiny bitch. Piss and moans that there are no passable escorts to lose his virginity to. The girl in his class is just starting transition. The TS porn producers in the US don't use enough pasable girls for him to wank to....And I notice his top model according to his profile is Kimber James.

Franklin, stop trying to change the world to your ideal of what a TS should look like, and good luck changing an entire industry.

My suggestion is to quit your fucking whining and bitching and do something if you feel so strongly about it. That something being move after this semester to somewhere more suiting to your tastes, L.A., NYC, Chicago. Your ideal girls, Kimber James or Bailey Jay are women who went through alot to get to where they are, and had a very specific goal. If you want that in a woman , man up and go where they are more available, instead of bumfuque Tenn, or quit yer bitchin!

http://www.shemale-411.com
I tend to agree with this. But I think Frank is right, it's bizarre the American talent that makes the cut and achieves acclaim. For every ten turned out, there are about two that are truly jerk-off worthy.



I watch a lot of brizilian porn them bitches are beautiful and passable. I dont care if I dont understand what theyre saying I know what theyre doing and there really isnt a need to have too many words in porn just good fucking.
Same. Brazilian porn is what true porn is all about.

[NYBURBS]

The biggest criticism I give to transsexual is the lack of passable girls. I see so many hot tgirls on escorts pages, but very few girls on the escort scene are pornstars. Girls like Yasmin Lee, Natassia Dreams, Kimber James, Victoria Di Prada, TS Doll, Jessica Host, Jessica Fox, Celeste, Jezebel, Bailey Jay, etc are passable. However the majority of tgirls in porn are very masculine(I will not name any). However in Latina and Asian tgirl porn a lot of the girls are passable.

One thing that is said by tgirl porn producers is that transsexual porn is targeted to straight men. How can this be when most of these are not passable and are very masculine? This is a complete contradiction. The majority of straight men do not want masculine women and tgirls.

One problem in this is the fact that most tgirl chasers and porn viewers constantly request non-passable tgirls. So again this is not targeting straight men. This is more like targeting homosexual and bisexual men.

I would love to see more passable American tgirls in porn. I see passable tgirls from all over the world in porn, but very few passable American tgirls. I don't watch porn of a different language simply because I don't understand it and I want to know what is happening in the story.

Well that's my opinion. Discuss

1) It takes a lot of time and money to get to the point of looking like some of the girls you listed.

2) As someone else posted, some (maybe many) of the ones that reach that point don't want to out themselves via porn.

3) You've never even been with a TS, but you're already falling in that trap of trying to discern which guys are "gay" and which are "straight." When you finally go to get your cherry popped are you going to ask: "Pardon me Miss, but before you stick that in my mouth I need to know: Is that girl penis or boy penis in your panties?"

[Gilian]

A good example of what im talking about, im not the who brought up her name ok. Mint is like number 1 or 2 most popular TS escort/pornstar in Asia but with no offense at all just being honest shes not passable right? But most guys like her ;)

Areeya was/is in the asian top 3 as well, and she is VERY passable...most guys are into Mint cause or her long cock ( it is not even fat) anyway, nothing to do with the rest of her boy-ish body. Personally I like my tgirls very feminine with nice size cocks. But I prefere feminity over big cocks. Like with GG's, some guys are into smaller ones and some like 'm bigger. Just different tastes.

[tsdvdman]

Brazil porn/ts are the best and hottest hands down case closed. There are some fine american ts who are passable on video because of makeup, lighting, camera angles,,etc. But if you ever ran into them in public you'd say,damn that's a nice looking tranny but you would know instantly that she is TS. But in Brazil allot of those ts are literally unclockable. I'm not even just talkin about the ones you see on video in porn. They are on the beaches and in grocery stores and in the mall and you wouldn't even know they are TS unless they tell you (and most will) or you get back to the hotel and out comes the Samba snake. It's truly fucking unreal how hot and natural looking they are.

[Gthoma2a]

Now now, Miriam Rivera is hot and she isn't Brazilian (Mexican if I recall correctly, but started hormones early and had amazing features), but I agree that Brazil is the best per capita. I don't care about the size of the cock, but I like for it to work. I hate when a girl has a cock that never gets hard and never cums. It makes me feel like I have watched her work a standard 9-5, not have a good sexual encounter.

[BellaBellucci]

+1

now you guys here believe me some guys here have same opinions as me ;)

:iagree:

~BB~

[alyssaluxor]

^^^ see many have same opinion and observation as me so im not talking shit lol

i think its MrWonderful and MDM23 who talk the biggest amount of shite!!!!!!!!!! lol

now have a taste of your own shit medicine lol

kisses
Alyssa Luxor

[alyssaluxor]

Areeya was/is in the asian top 3 as well, and she is VERY passable...most guys are into Mint cause or her long cock ( it is not even fat) anyway, nothing to do with the rest of her boy-ish body. Personally I like my tgirls very feminine with nice size cocks. But I prefere feminity over big cocks. Like with GG's, some guys are into smaller ones and some like 'm bigger. Just different tastes.

sorry but Areeya is not even passable at all. people in Asia even Westeners could tell shes a Transexual girl even shes very far away no offense

i remember i have a regular client in Hong Kong and she date Areeya and suddenly while they are in a disco a Westerner told him that the girl(Areeya) together with him is not a girl but a boy. he said he quickly get out of the disco because his so ashamed to be seen with a ladyboy(Areeya).

ive also seen Areeya in person in Nana Plaza no offense and disrespect at all but shes not passable at all

by the way I find her hot, sexy and gorgeous ;)

just my 2 cents worth ;)

[SpoogeMonkey]

Two things I like about transsexual porn

1. Gorgeous girls who at sometime in the picture reveal they have a schlong.
2. Girls who look gorgeous, well groomed but there's something slightly noticeable. I'm sure we've all been to a party and someone you know will be going out with what we call 'a man-bird'. As in her face might be a bit square, she might be a bit more athletic and built up than the normal girl and you talk amongst yourself "is she?".. you want to find out. You check for bulge.... No.. shes a girl.. did she used to be a fella? Secretly though, everyone would love that 'schlong surprise' and be met with the "Oh no, shes quite hot, shes up for it but theres a schlong.. nobody will find out... I wonder what its like.."-scenario.

If you disagree then call me a gayer if you so wish. I'm comfortable with my porn turn ons and will now go over to jizztube to spank off over some dirty vids whilst chanting "I'm not gay, I just like a bit of cock on a girlyboy."

[mbf]

Just because one guy always almost obsessively bumps that thread with pix of "Mint" doesn'T mean shit. Mint got thrown out in those knockout threads fairly early.


A good example of what im talking about, im not the who brought up her name ok. Mint is like number 1 or 2 most popular TS escort/pornstar in Asia but with no offense at all just being honest shes not passable right? But most guys like her ;)

Far from "most popular" many Asians did better than Mint


http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/showthread.php?t=47568

[Gilian]

[QUOTE=
i remember i have a regular client in Hong Kong and she date Areeya and suddenly while they are in a disco a Westerner told him that the girl(Areeya) together with him is not a girl but a boy. he said he quickly get out of the disco because his so ashamed to be seen with a ladyboy(Areeya).

ive also seen Areeya in person in Nana Plaza no offense and disrespect at all but shes not passable at all

by the way I find her hot, sexy and gorgeous ;)

just my 2 cents worth ;)[/QUOTE]

Areeya NOT passable? U are joking right? haha..
YouTube - shemale: Areeya photo shoot (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QFwlSrqYgo&feature=related)
That's not 2 cents! that's minus 200$ ! Oh yeah, I have seen Areeya very up close as well... ;)

[NatashaLover]

Interesting debate, I just have to say that mostly all guys prefer a big cock on a girl than a pretty passable girl. So a lot of these girls in the porn industry stop taking their medicines so they can get hard like rock and make these porn movies and pictures. The consequences are that they start looking not too passable. And its not all of them, because there are some that are blessed to be able to be passable and have huge big cocks, but not too many. I also see a lot of the same girls over and over and I think that talent is out there, I love seeying new girls and its a fact that there are only like a 10%-15% passable t-girls out there and its hard to find, plus this low percentage do mostly escorting because they can do in a date or two more than what they get paid from making a photo session or a video to any of t-porn website and their pictures are not going to be splashed all over the internet. This is just my opinion about this interesting thread.

http://cdn1.fetlife.com/207/207742/3a583c9fcab6791d99916a79ff6c7bd7_20100622042241_51 0.jpg

[dderek123]

Beauty is in the eye of the beerholder.

But seriously, what a man finds passable/attractive on a ladyboy will be different from what a ladyboy considers passable/attractive on a ladyboy.

From person to person it's all subjective.

[mbf]

Interesting debate, I just have to say that mostly all guys prefer a big cock on a girl than a pretty passable girl.


Nope. Why aren't those big cock/hard looking ones not winning those knockout competitions then?

They have their fans, but the passable ones who actually win those popularity threads as we currently see have more fans. As well as the actual prOn sales show, it's still Vaniity, Kimber James etc who are the best seller as well as the Brazilian ones.

[dgs925]

Nope. Why aren't those big cock/hard looking ones not winning those knockout competitions then?

Because those "knockout competition" threads are pretty close to the gayest threads on this board. They mean nothing, and add nothing to the discussion. A good measuring stick about what kind of girls guys go for is how much money they bring in, be it on the street or on the web.

[TSPornFan]

Nope. Why aren't those big cock/hard looking ones not winning those knockout competitions then?

They have their fans, but the passable ones who actually win those popularity threads as we currently see have more fans. As well as the actual prOn sales show, it's still Vaniity, Kimber James etc who are the best seller as well as the Brazilian ones.

You bring up a good point. The non-passable girls were quickly eliminated in the knockout competitions. This does show men WANT passable twomen and NOT non-passable tgirls.

[dgs925]

You bring up a good point. The non-passable girls were quickly eliminated in the knockout competitions. This does show men WANT passable twomen and NOT non-passable tgirls.

Here is a good point: FRANKLIN, the most retarded of the newer posters, firmly believes in the utility of the "knocout competition" threads.

[traLika]

Whether you like 'em or not, the knockout competitions do give some indication of which girls the guys at HA prefer.

[shemale-411]

Franklin is kinda of a moron. I mean he idolizes girls of the pornstar mold, Kimber etc, yet rags all day about non-passable girls. He's a self proclaimed virgin whose main experience with TS culture is through porn.

Newsflash, by it's very definition, passable would mean you would can't clock the girl. She would be one of those pretty cocktail waitresses, dealers, whatever I knew, that flew under the radar in Vegas.

Franklin's ideal girls, super sexy pornstar girls are going to come under scrutiny for their uber hot looks, and honestly they shoot for that. He lives in a fantasy world of which he has no experience.

To each their own. But for Franklin to decide he has this litmus test for the porn industry is kind of ridiculous.

[goku]

Interesting debate, I just have to say that mostly all guys prefer a big cock on a girl than a pretty passable girl. So a lot of these girls in the porn industry stop taking their medicines so they can get hard like rock and make these porn movies and pictures. The consequences are that they start looking not too passable. And its not all of them, because there are some that are blessed to be able to be passable and have huge big cocks, but not too many. I also see a lot of the same girls over and over and I think that talent is out there, I love seeying new girls and its a fact that there are only like a 10%-15% passable t-girls out there and its hard to find, plus this low percentage do mostly escorting because they can do in a date or two more than what they get paid from making a photo session or a video to any of t-porn website and their pictures are not going to be splashed all over the internet. This is just my opinion about this interesting thread.

http://cdn1.fetlife.com/207/207742/3a583c9fcab6791d99916a79ff6c7bd7_20100622042241_51 0.jpg

I wouldn't say men want a "big" dick, as much as I would say they want a functional one.

I would go out on a limb and say the thing with mint was her ability to suck her own cock and fuck herself, that gained her popularity.

The thing that most people are leaving out is people's "talents". Those are the things that make most people sought after in porn. Annette Schwartz has the nasty deepthroating ability. Same thing with Heather from Ideepthroat. In TS porn, Sharon Lopes and Bruna Tavarez can cum geysers. Some girls cum while getting fucked well. Some girls move on a dick like they are at the club dancing. Most guys are willing to overlook a few flaws if the girl is capable of doing acts that you find sexually stimulating.

Now when you add that to the TS world, it thins the herd considerably. We wanna see girls that can fuck, suck dick well, and execute lewd, rauchy sex acts. I would rather see a cute but not really passable girl fucking with passion and swallowing dick to the base, then to see a fully passable girl, who just lays there motionless while getting fucked. There are just not a lot of fully passable girls out there who do that.

[tslvrnyc]

I think it's because the Brazilians are willing to inject ridiculous amounts of silicone into themselves because they figure they'll be dead by 40 anyway. It looks good usually but at what cost? I don't think the same degree of fatalism exists in North America.

[jimmeer]

From where I am standing there are loads of passable Tgirls out there. Surely they don't all have to look like Marilyn Monroe to be sexy, pretty and exciting. One mans meat is another ones poison and I think it is sad to be so critical.
But I do think the issue of passability is a long way second to the lack of imagination of the film-makers. So predictable, all flesh all action, wham bam thank you mam and thats it. Surely some of the trannies would just love to show how good they can look with their clothes on- and, who knows, some of them may even be able to act, because for sure they get no chance to do so outside sucking cock and getting it up the butt at the moment. Even some of the retro shemale porn seems to have a lot more content, variety and imagination than the current stuff.
That must be what Joe Public wants, so apologies because I suppose I have got it wrong!!

[tsdvdman]

From where I am standing there are loads of passable Tgirls out there. Surely they don't all have to look like Marilyn Monroe to be sexy, pretty and exciting. One mans meat is another ones poison and I think it is sad to be so critical.
But I do think the issue of passability is a long way second to the lack of imagination of the film-makers. So predictable, all flesh all action, wham bam thank you mam and thats it. Surely some of the trannies would just love to show how good they can look with their clothes on- and, who knows, some of them may even be able to act, because for sure they get no chance to do so outside sucking cock and getting it up the butt at the moment. Even some of the retro shemale porn seems to have a lot more content, variety and imagination than the current stuff.
That must be what Joe Public wants, so apologies because I suppose I have got it wrong!!

I agree and even the biggest name producers don't seem to get it or they just don't care because the shits most likely going to sell anyway. If you but the product already and you're not satisfied at all,,oh well. The solo scenes have become all too predictable. a little interview (if that) and then sitting on a chair for 15 minutes jerking off. No walking around in clothes,,stripping,showing a bulge,,walking around with a hard-on,,nothing,,just talk and jerk. And it absolutely blows my mind that when a potentially good scene is happening where the girl is rock hard (which is few and far between) and they are moving into another position where they have to stand or get up,,the camera man moves away from the girl, not focusing on her ass or cock at all,,and most of the time focusing on the guy's cock for an extended amount of time. It's those things that make me think twice about what I am watching and where I'm spending my money and say fuck TS porn. In regular porn,,the guy is just a prop for the most part,(unless he is a brand name),in TS porn more and more of the camera focus is on the guy fucking the girls we want to see. That to me keeps TS porn kinda in the gay category which is just not my thing.

[traLika]

Even some of the retro shemale porn seems to have a lot more content, variety and imagination than the current stuff.
That must be what Joe Public wants, so apologies because I suppose I have got it wrong!!


Unfortunately that's the way things are done these days: if something sells well they just make more of the same until they do it to death. It's the same with magazines, television programmes and Hollywood movies.

I'd love to see more creativity in porn - and also in magazines, TV programmes and Hollywood movies...

[TSPornFan]

Franklin is kinda of a moron. I mean he idolizes girls of the pornstar mold, Kimber etc, yet rags all day about non-passable girls. He's a self proclaimed virgin whose main experience with TS culture is through porn.

Newsflash, by it's very definition, passable would mean you would can't clock the girl. She would be one of those pretty cocktail waitresses, dealers, whatever I knew, that flew under the radar in Vegas.

Franklin's ideal girls, super sexy pornstar girls are going to come under scrutiny for their uber hot looks, and honestly they shoot for that. He lives in a fantasy world of which he has no experience.

To each their own. But for Franklin to decide he has this litmus test for the porn industry is kind of ridiculous.

This has NOTHING to do with topic. I am a moron for ONLY being attracted to passable tgirls. LOL! You are very ignorant. You act as if what I find sexually attractive for a Tgirl is a crime. I have different standards for GG and Tgirls for obvious reasons.

[Solitary Brother]

Interesting debate, I just have to say that mostly all guys prefer a big cock on a girl than a pretty passable girl. So a lot of these girls in the porn industry stop taking their medicines so they can get hard like rock and make these porn movies and pictures. The consequences are that they start looking not too passable. And its not all of them, because there are some that are blessed to be able to be passable and have huge big cocks, but not too many. I also see a lot of the same girls over and over and I think that talent is out there, I love seeying new girls and its a fact that there are only like a 10%-15% passable t-girls out there and its hard to find, plus this low percentage do mostly escorting because they can do in a date or two more than what they get paid from making a photo session or a video to any of t-porn website and their pictures are not going to be splashed all over the internet. This is just my opinion about this interesting thread.

http://cdn1.fetlife.com/207/207742/3a583c9fcab6791d99916a79ff6c7bd7_20100622042241_51 0.jpg


I agree with everything you said.

[Gthoma2a]

Maybe it is just me, but one of the things I like most is that a lot of t-girls are largely exotic beauties and not Marilyn Monroe wannabees. I like some of the girls who are down home, but I enjoy the added flare of an exotic beauty. It may not exactly have much to do with passable (in my eyes) as it does something I don't see every day. That is why I like Brazilian girls so much.

[alyssaluxor]

Interesting debate, I just have to say that mostly all guys prefer a big cock on a girl than a pretty passable girl. So a lot of these girls in the porn industry stop taking their medicines so they can get hard like rock and make these porn movies and pictures. The consequences are that they start looking not too passable. And its not all of them, because there are some that are blessed to be able to be passable and have huge big cocks, but not too many. I also see a lot of the same girls over and over and I think that talent is out there, I love seeying new girls and its a fact that there are only like a 10%-15% passable t-girls out there and its hard to find, plus this low percentage do mostly escorting because they can do in a date or two more than what they get paid from making a photo session or a video to any of t-porn website and their pictures are not going to be splashed all over the internet. This is just my opinion about this interesting thread.

http://cdn1.fetlife.com/207/207742/3a583c9fcab6791d99916a79ff6c7bd7_20100622042241_51 0.jpg


I agree with everything you said.

i also agree from what ive noticed in this forum ;)

[arnie666]

The things I see wrong with tranny porn ,I also see wrong with straight porn. Extremely poor camera work ,and also not enough Black females and Black trannies. The other issue ,is this emphasis on throat fucking , a blowjob is one thing, but seeing a girl spewing and choking over a mans penis isn't sexy to me.

[tsparisangelline]

The biggest criticism I give to transsexual is the lack of passable girls. I see so many hot tgirls on escorts pages, but very few girls on the escort scene are pornstars. Girls like Yasmin Lee, Natassia Dreams, Kimber James, Victoria Di Prada, TS Doll, Jessica Host, Jessica Fox, Celeste, Jezebel, Bailey Jay, etc are passable. However the majority of tgirls in porn are very masculine(I will not name any). However in Latina and Asian tgirl porn a lot of the girls are passable.

One thing that is said by tgirl porn producers is that transsexual porn is targeted to straight men. How can this be when most of these are not passable and are very masculine? This is a complete contradiction. The majority of straight men do not want masculine women and tgirls.

One problem in this is the fact that most tgirl chasers and porn viewers constantly request non-passable tgirls. So again this is not targeting straight men. This is more like targeting homosexual and bisexual men.

I would love to see more passable American tgirls in porn. I see passable tgirls from all over the world in porn, but very few passable American tgirls. I don't watch porn of a different language simply because I don't understand it and I want to know what is happening in the story.

Well that's my opinion. Discuss

Kimber james is not passable

Victoria Di Prada is not passable

TS Doll is not passable

Celeste is not passable

So since you obviously know little of passability in the transsexual community

your THREAD is a TOTAL FAIL

[alyssaluxor]

Areeya NOT passable? U are joking right? haha..
YouTube - shemale: Areeya photo shoot (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QFwlSrqYgo&feature=related)
That's not 2 cents! that's minus 200$ ! Oh yeah, I have seen Areeya very up close as well... ;)


sorry im not joking why not test it yourself! date her in public in the streets of Bangkok or Hong Kong or Singapore and im sure people around you knows shes a Transexual girl ;)

[Gilian]

sorry im not joking why not test it yourself! date her in public in the streets of Bangkok or Hong Kong or Singapore and im sure people around you knows shes a Transexual girl ;)

I went out with her in BKK, and she looked stunnin' ! And I am sure that any Asian local would probably know that she is a LB. But I could have taken her to any club in the Western world an nobody would have known. And I agree with the fact that straight guys and transsexuals have totally different ideas about passability.

[Silcc69]

And i would love to see how much somebody liek say Dream (HUGE COCK non passable) makes compared to Doll (SMALL COCK non passable)

[NatashaLover]

Kimber james is not passable

Victoria Di Prada is not passable

TS Doll is not passable

Celeste is not passable

So since you obviously know little of passability in the transsexual community

your THREAD is a TOTAL FAIL


LOL LOL LOL
:iagree:

[fitz207]

I think the OP is talking about passable by porn industry standards. And he has a point. Plus Celeste is one of the most passable girls out there.

[Star Angel 86]

Plus Celeste is one of the most passable girls out there.

Absolutely she looks more female by the day a lass you could bring home to mom.:cheers::mrgreen:

[Mylon]

Yeah, there's a lot of bad porn out there. And most of it is not targeted at straight men with the huge number of upward facing shots where the cock makes up the majority of the view. I want to see a girl that happens to have a cock, I don't want to see a cock that happens to have tits attached.

That said, I find even un-erect t-girls to be attractive.

[ebonreaver]

There is a difference between passable in a static photo shoot and in video/person. There are many beautiful girls that photograph well and that I would love to be with but could not go out in public and not throw off an aura of being "different". That being said beauty is not the measure of being passable. I believe many of the amateur girl next door types as well as the ladies on here could go to a bar or restaurant and only turn heads for being a pretty girl.

[alyssaluxor]

I went out with her in BKK, and she looked stunnin' ! And I am sure that any Asian local would probably know that she is a LB. But I could have taken her to any club in the Western world an nobody would have known. And I agree with the fact that straight guys and transsexuals have totally different ideas about passability.

:iagree:

i find her hot and sexy but not passable no disrespect at all ;)

[JoePitt]

:iagree:

i find her hot and sexy but not passable no disrespect at all ;)

The thing is what you and Paris think is "passable" differs completely from what an average guy thinks is "passable".

[Schimmel]

Kimber james is not passable

Victoria Di Prada is not passable

TS Doll is not passable

Celeste is not passable

So since you obviously know little of passability in the transsexual community

your THREAD is a TOTAL FAIL

Nice dish of truth right there. Have to agree.

[alyssaluxor]

The thing is what you and Paris think is "passable" differs completely from what an average guy thinks is "passable".

not really! like i said have a test for yourself! date her in public and walk with her on the streets like in Bangkok or Singapore or Hong Kong and youll find out what im talking about ;)

[alpha2117]

Passable is all in the eye of the beholder too. A lot of Asian girls seem passable because they are petite but when you sit them next to actual gg asian girls they really are no more passable than the equivalant anglo giels.

[GroobySteven]

not really! like i said have a test for yourself! date her in public and walk with her on the streets like in Bangkok or Singapore or Hong Kong and youll find out what im talking about ;)

...but walk with her in London, Paris or NYC and she's passable. The countries you mentioned are more used to seeing transgenders like that.

People are mentioning some of the best looking models as being "un-passable" - it's absolute rubbish. Another TS or someone who is around the scene, knows what to look for but most of those girls (Kimber, Celeste, etc.) put them in the general public and the general public would not have a clue.

You seem very bitter a lot of the time Alyssa with your posts?

[Nicole Dupre]

...but walk with her in London, Paris or NYC and she's passable. The countries you mentioned are more used to seeing transgenders like that.



Exactly. Celeste and Kimber are both very tiny, and that works out in their favor in the West. In Asia though, any woman who's taller than 5'6" is going get stared at and potentially clocked.

That's why so many trannys dread going into nail salons. First of all, we're far more likely to get clocked by them than by American or European women. And secondly those little Asian bitches are all talking smack in their native tongue about EVERYONE anyway. lol

"Uh oh! Godzilla needs a pedicure today! Ruuuuuuuuuun!" lol

[KimberlyBanxxx]

Exactly. Celeste and Kimber are both very tiny, and that works out in their favor in the West. In Asia though, any woman who's taller than 5'6" is going get stared at and potentially clocked.

That's why so many trannys dread going into nail salons. First of all, we're far more likely to get clocked by them than by American or European women. And secondly those little Asian bitches are all talking smack in their native tongue about EVERYONE anyway. lol

"Uh oh! Godzilla needs a pedicure today! Ruuuuuuuuuun!" lol

bwhaha
the nails salons are the worst
because you knowwww they are talking about you..

[traLika]

People are mentioning some of the best looking models as being "un-passable" - it's absolute rubbish. Another TS or someone who is around the scene, knows what to look for but most of those girls (Kimber, Celeste, etc.) put them in the general public and the general public would not have a clue.



Couldn't agree more! I think too many people here put all of the girls under a microscope. Let's face it, there are plenty of GGs who look less feminine than some ts that have been described here as 'un-passable'.

[Nowhere]

People, look, it's a matter of sheer economics and prejudice. America is far wealthier than other parts of the world, and the women who transition well, most often opt out of porn. In other parts of the world, the girls are forced to support themselves (and often their families, as well) by porn and escorting, hence you see them there. I'm quite sure there's plenty of more passable American girls, but they're just not in porn.

Also, it is true, as was stated - the perception of the demand (I really disagree that it's there, but the belief is present with producers) is there that people want highly functional girls. And, if they're functional, by definition, they'll be less passable, since that's what testosterone does to the human body. It masculizes it. If the perception by the producers was for girls to be bottom-only and as feminine as possible, they'd block all of the testosterone, not be active, and far more feminine, and therefore, passable.

So, that's the full explanation of it.

[Gthoma2a]

There are always exceptions, though. Bianca Freire, Kalena Rios, Alana Ferreira, Miriam Rivera, and Luana Araujo are all very passable and have fully functioning cocks. There is nothing wrong with it. There are enough masculine looking ggs to make any reasonably hot t-girl passable.

[alyssaluxor]

...but walk with her in London, Paris or NYC and she's passable. The countries you mentioned are more used to seeing transgenders like that.

People are mentioning some of the best looking models as being "un-passable" - it's absolute rubbish. Another TS or someone who is around the scene, knows what to look for but most of those girls (Kimber, Celeste, etc.) put them in the general public and the general public would not have a clue.

You seem very bitter a lot of the time Alyssa with your posts?

huh! im not bitter at all! i didnt mention any TS name here its other poster who mention them not me ok ;)

by the way im base in Asia what could i do? if i tell those girls will are passable in the streets of Asia will be total rubbish right?

[alyssaluxor]

Exactly. Celeste and Kimber are both very tiny, and that works out in their favor in the West. In Asia though, any woman who's taller than 5'6" is going get stared at and potentially clocked.

That's why so many trannys dread going into nail salons. First of all, we're far more likely to get clocked by them than by American or European women. And secondly those little Asian bitches are all talking smack in their native tongue about EVERYONE anyway. lol

"Uh oh! Godzilla needs a pedicure today! Ruuuuuuuuuun!" lol

:iagree:

im also scared to go to nail salons for most are Chinese/HK people i dont know if they are talking that im a TS or not lol

[thaibound]

by the way im base in Asia what could i do? if i tell those girls will are passable in the streets of Asia will be total rubbish right?

if those girls walk down the street in bangkok with their hair done poorly, their make-up sloppy, their clothes lacking style and poorly fit, their feet in flats instead of hot high heels, caring as little about being attractive as most natural females who've been married for years do, rather than maximizing their beauty and sexuality as the ladyboys do -- i think they might pass.:geek:

[archineer]

miriam rivera doesn't pass in real life btw- and she's covered in scars....

[tsparisangelline]

YOU CAN ALways tell the difference between a woman and a ts

[blatinobrotha]

Kimber James, Bailey Jay, Yasmin Lee, Jessica Host, Natassia Dreams, Mia Isabella, Jezebel Yum... These chicks are all passable and they're American. The only one You forget is Celeste.

[TSPornFan]

YOU CAN ALways tell the difference between a woman and a ts

No you can't. Go watch Maury. Everyone on the show though Yasmin Lee was a gg.

[tsparisangelline]

Exactly. Celeste and Kimber are both very tiny, and that works out in their favor in the West. In Asia though, any woman who's taller than 5'6" is going get stared at and potentially clocked.

That's why so many trannys dread going into nail salons. First of all, we're far more likely to get clocked by them than by American or European women. And secondly those little Asian bitches are all talking smack in their native tongue about EVERYONE anyway. lol

"Uh oh! Godzilla needs a pedicure today! Ruuuuuuuuuun!" lol

I never had a asian clock me.

[tsdvdman]

Jessica Host USED to look passable but the surgeries she had actually fucked her face up. I don't like her at all but she was damn cute now her face looks clownish.

[blatinobrotha]

Jessica Host USED to look passable but the surgeries she had actually fucked her face up. I don't like her at all but she was damn cute now her face looks clownish.

I still think she's cute, but it's true...a lot of chicks get surgery and lose their appeal.

[tsparisangelline]

No you can't. Go watch Maury. Everyone on the show though Yasmin Lee was a gg.

i am speaking of more masculine gg's

[Schimmel]

...a lot of chicks get surgery and lose their appeal.
Absolutely. Like Kimber James what a nightmare. Even with four or five shots of Nemiroff Original I would still be looking for a window to jump out of.

[Tepres]

The biggest criticism I give to transsexual is the lack of passable girls. I see so many hot tgirls on escorts pages, but very few girls on the escort scene are pornstars. Girls like Yasmin Lee, Natassia Dreams, Kimber James, Victoria Di Prada, TS Doll, Jessica Host, Jessica Fox, Celeste, Jezebel, Bailey Jay, etc are passable.

All clock-able to the trained eye and ear.


The other issue ,is this emphasis on throat fucking , a blowjob is one thing, but seeing a girl spewing and choking over a mans penis isn't sexy to me.


I like the Gag Factor series. To each his own. :)
http://www.gagfactor.com/covers/jm113_front_huge.jpg
http://static.rarbg.com/posters2/0/0e0db240d1e7264fbe98c22d293ffb1e3054dec1.jpg

[Dkg]

in my personal experience with the girls...the passable 'americanized' girls tend to remain strictly as SPs and for the most part like to remain stealth. so lots don't wish to do porn

SP? What does SP mean??

Make sense that they wouldn't want to do porn. Maybe they just want to feel like regular girls.

[Nowhere]

YOU CAN ALways tell the difference between a woman and a ts


I agree with you on >99.99% of girls. But, if a girl transitions before puberty (meaning she's never been hit by pretty much any testosterone) and has really, really, really good genetics, she can do it.

I only know of about one or two examples, ever, given that almost no girls in the world are able to get t-blockers/estrogen/progesterone at an early enough age. If the girl is supported by her family, the medical community typically forces girls to wait until they're an "adult" meaning there's been some testosterone affect on them. If the girl isn't supported, she's typically working, meaning she needs use of her cock, also making there be some testosterone affect on them.

Only in the rare, rare, rare situation where a girl is extremely insistent at starting as early as possible, with unbelievably supportive parents are you going to get the biological conditions for a girl's body to form in the way that bio born women are, making them completely passable.

[BrendaQG]

I agree with you on >99.99% of girls. But, if a girl transitions before puberty (meaning she's never been hit by pretty much any testosterone) and has really, really, really good genetics, she can do it.

-----

Only in the rare, rare, rare situation where a girl is extremely insistent at starting as early as possible, with unbelievably supportive parents are you going to get the biological conditions for a girl's body to form in the way that bio born women are, making them completely passable.

Even people like that are not 100% passable. To a well trained eye and ear the sings are obvious.

One name comes to mind, Kim Petras (http://freddyo.com/tag/dramatic-surgery/) probably one of the most flawless possible. Due in part to the support of her family and ability to sing well enough she has no need to do porn. But who knows she is an entertainer and they have a tendency after reaching a certain age to rebel against their teenybopper persona.

[TSPornFan]

Let me show you who is flawless and is new in porn.

Sarina Valentina

http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/picture.php?albumid=85&pictureid=958

http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/picture.php?albumid=85&pictureid=959

http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/picture.php?albumid=85&pictureid=960

We need more girls like Sarina in porn.

[amberskyi]

the more passable a girl is usually means the more consistent on hormones she is.now while one can still function while on hormones one can not ejaculate (shoot).in shemale porn thats what alot of directors and fans want.some girls just arent willing to delay or set their transition back to make a movie.

[bte]

Let me show you who is flawless and is new in porn.

Sarina Valentina

http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/picture.php?albumid=85&pictureid=958

http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/picture.php?albumid=85&pictureid=959

http://www.hungangels.com/vboard/picture.php?albumid=85&pictureid=960

We need more girls like Sarina in porn.

Isn't that Alexis/Saige? If that is, then she is not new to porn.

[tsparisangelline]

I agree with you on >99.99% of girls. But, if a girl transitions before puberty (meaning she's never been hit by pretty much any testosterone) and has really, really, really good genetics, she can do it.

I only know of about one or two examples, ever, given that almost no girls in the world are able to get t-blockers/estrogen/progesterone at an early enough age. If the girl is supported by her family, the medical community typically forces girls to wait until they're an "adult" meaning there's been some testosterone affect on them. If the girl isn't supported, she's typically working, meaning she needs use of her cock, also making there be some testosterone affect on them.

Only in the rare, rare, rare situation where a girl is extremely insistent at starting as early as possible, with unbelievably supportive parents are you going to get the biological conditions for a girl's body to form in the way that bio born women are, making them completely passable.

before you qouted my post you should have read the next message i made

[MissBStar]

the more passable a girl is usually means the more consistent on hormones she is.now while one can still function while on hormones one can not ejaculate (shoot).in shemale porn thats what alot of directors and fans want.some girls just arent willing to delay or set their transition back to make a movie.

that's definately my hold up! I won't come off of hormones just to shoot a load for a camera. I'll take cialis to put on a good show on webcam but i'm too masculine to come off of the hormones. =(

sometimes i wish i just ran away from i was 16 and started hormones then but then again puberty started for me as early as 12 =(

[tsparisangelline]

Even people like that are not 100% passable. To a well trained eye and ear the sings are obvious.

One name comes to mind, Kim Petras (http://freddyo.com/tag/dramatic-surgery/) probably one of the most flawless possible. Due in part to the support of her family and ability to sing well enough she has no need to do porn. But who knows she is an entertainer and they have a tendency after reaching a certain age to rebel against their teenybopper persona.

kim petras is clockeable

[amberskyi]

that's definately my hold up! I won't come off of hormones just to shoot a load for a camera. I'll take cialis to put on a good show on webcam but i'm too masculine to come off of the hormones. =(

sometimes i wish i just ran away from i was 16 and started hormones then but then again puberty started for me as early as 12 =(

girl no shade but neither am i.you could get all the surgeries in the world but youll still look manly without blocking the testosterone and inserting estrogen.
sure youll have this fab porn career and money but when your ass getss old and no longer making movies youll be just another manly ts that gets laughed at.

[alyssaluxor]

the more passable a girl is usually means the more consistent on hormones she is.now while one can still function while on hormones one can not ejaculate (shoot).in shemale porn thats what alot of directors and fans want.some girls just arent willing to delay or set their transition back to make a movie.

:iagree:

most TS admirers/chasers like a hard huge COCK that could CUM usually no matter the TS girl look like. so in the end most TS girls need to stop or lessen hormones and look more musculine

[Gthoma2a]

:iagree:

most TS admirers/chasers like a hard huge COCK that could CUM usually no matter the TS girl look like. so in the end most TS girls need to stop or lessen hormones and look more musculine

I disagree, for me anyway. I don't care what size the cock is so long as it can cum. The reason for this, from the time I was 8, I have hated and feared the idea of women faking orgasms (I have done whatever it takes to get my girlfriends to cum as often as physically possible due to this fear, using anything I could learn... that is why I always worked with my gg girlfriends on squirting). That shit messed with me. I knew the sexiest thing I had ever seen women do was cum and quite frankly, orgasms should never be fake. You can't fake cum. I want the girl to look and act very feminine, but ultimately, I want to see her cum so that I can see her in the most sexually appealing state. I don't care about size and I don't want her to use it on me, but I want her to cum. I am not saying girls should stop the hormones, but don't go all steroid freak with the dosages. I don't particularly know the science of the thing, but I would imagine at a certain point, you can pretty much maintain with a lower dose, look beautiful, and still cum.

[bte]

:iagree:

most TS admirers/chasers like a hard huge COCK that could CUM usually no matter the TS girl look like. so in the end most TS girls need to stop or lessen hormones and look more musculine

I am gonna have to disagree. Although I am sure that is true for some guys, but most guys do not want a TS girl who look masculine. What would be the point of being with a TS girl when she looks masculine?

[MDM23]

:iagree:

most TS admirers/chasers like a hard huge COCK that could CUM usually no matter the TS girl look like. so in the end most TS girls need to stop or lessen hormones and look more musculine

Complete and utter bollocks.

[amberskyi]

I disagree, for me anyway. I don't care what size the cock is so long as it can cum. The reason for this, from the time I was 8, I have hated and feared the idea of women faking orgasms (I have done whatever it takes to get my girlfriends to cum as often as physically possible due to this fear, using anything I could learn... that is why I always worked with my gg girlfriends on squirting). That shit messed with me. I knew the sexiest thing I had ever seen women do was cum and quite frankly, orgasms should never be fake. You can't fake cum. I want the girl to look and act very feminine, but ultimately, I want to see her cum so that I can see her in the most sexually appealing state. I don't care about size and I don't want her to use it on me, but I want her to cum. I am not saying girls should stop the hormones, but don't go all steroid freak with the dosages. I don't particularly know the science of the thing, but I would imagine at a certain point, you can pretty much maintain with a lower dose, look beautiful, and still cum.

sad to say but no you cant.a girl can be on hormones and be functional(i.e get erections and orgasms) but in order for the estrogen to work properly the testosterone has to be almost completely blocked.semen is a by product of testosterone.when you go to the doctor he/she puts you on the proper dose and one of the signs they look for to see if the dose is effective is lack of ejaculate.

[Gthoma2a]

I still think it is best to have a Alessandra Ribeiro type thing, a Kalena type thing, a Alana Ferreira type thing or something like that. These girls are beautiful and, let's not start that debate again, feminine and they can cum. I don't know how it is, but girls shouldn't deny themselves the ability to show cum (it is hard to move past that concept). I kind of like it because it is reassuring (I could likely be happy for the arousal and face while they are cumming), but I still have in the back of my head those girls doing it as awesome. Like I say, I don't understand the stuff like you girls do, but it is just ever so reassuring to see that a girl has cum, even if it is in clear little traces.

[emmettray]

I wouldn't say men want a "big" dick, as much as I would say they want a functional one.

I would go out on a limb and say the thing with mint was her ability to suck her own cock and fuck herself, that gained her popularity.

The thing that most people are leaving out is people's "talents". Those are the things that make most people sought after in porn. Annette Schwartz has the nasty deepthroating ability. Same thing with Heather from Ideepthroat. In TS porn, Sharon Lopes and Bruna Tavarez can cum geysers. Some girls cum while getting fucked well. Some girls move on a dick like they are at the club dancing. Most guys are willing to overlook a few flaws if the girl is capable of doing acts that you find sexually stimulating.

Now when you add that to the TS world, it thins the herd considerably. We wanna see girls that can fuck, suck dick well, and execute lewd, rauchy sex acts. I would rather see a cute but not really passable girl fucking with passion and swallowing dick to the base, then to see a fully passable girl, who just lays there motionless while getting fucked. There are just not a lot of fully passable girls out there who do that.



Well said.

I share this view entirely.

[blonde_sweetheart]

I still think it is best to have a Alessandra Ribeiro type thing, a Kalena type thing, a Alana Ferreira type thing or something like that. These girls are beautiful and, let's not start that debate again, feminine and they can cum. I don't know how it is, but girls shouldn't deny themselves the ability to show cum (it is hard to move past that concept). I kind of like it because it is reassuring (I could likely be happy for the arousal and face while they are cumming), but I still have in the back of my head those girls doing it as awesome. Like I say, I don't understand the stuff like you girls do, but it is just ever so reassuring to see that a girl has cum, even if it is in clear little traces.

Some girls don't cum because they're on hormones. Whats the OBSESSION with cum??

[TsVanessa69]

Some girls don't cum because they're on hormones. Whats the OBSESSION with cum??
they want to swallow your baby babys

[Gthoma2a]

Nah, it is more about the visual of a girl cumming, that is all. I like it, it is like confirmation of a good job like when a stream of precum starts dripping from her cock when I fuck her. Call me crazy to like feedback.:shrug

[bte]

Nah, it is more about the visual of a girl cumming, that is all. I like it, it is like confirmation of a good job like when a stream of precum starts dripping from her cock when I fuck her. Call me crazy to like feedback.:shrug

You know there are other ways to know if your partner is enjoying themselves sexually with you? Most notably (besides cumming) is the "sex flush" that comes over a person. I noticed it when I am having sex with white girls, their cheeks turn a rosy color and parts of their body also turn a rosy color.

[Gthoma2a]

True, and there is the glazed over eyes and stuff, but you know what I mean. It is just kind of cool, but eh whatever I guess.

[rockabilly]

Among other things ... quick shallow breaths , muscle spasms , toe curling etc.

[Gthoma2a]

I'm aware of that, but I was thinking of the other stuff (I have had it happen a few times, but I was thinking blowing a load was more common). You know, like Cytherea is for gg (even if it is clear). I guess it isn't that important, but it is kind of cool IMO. I especially like the no hands p-spot orgasms/other stuff that happen from time to time. Is it being said that that even precum can't happen with hormones, so that is why I may not see it right after a girl's injections (I never asked when I was with them, but when it didn't happen, I just kept hoping it was about to happen)?

[amberskyi]

I'm aware of that, but I was thinking of the other stuff (I have had it happen a few times, but I was thinking blowing a load was more common). You know, like Cytherea is for gg (even if it is clear). I guess it isn't that important, but it is kind of cool IMO. I especially like the no hands p-spot orgasms/other stuff that happen from time to time. Is it being said that that even precum can't happen with hormones, so that is why I may not see it right after a girl's injections (I never asked when I was with them, but when it didn't happen, I just kept hoping it was about to happen)?

whats supper weird is since being on hormones i precum waaay more.its almost to the point that in extremely hot encounters i get ailttle embarressed.but when it comes to orgasms im as dry as the sahara.

[TSPornFan]

There's currently a group of members at TS Seduction who are pissed off about the latest update featuring a non-passable tgirl.

[Gthoma2a]

I have limited t-girl experiences (I try to date, not purchase), so maybe I am just dealing with too small a sampling (two tgs a little over a handfull of times with them). There is nothing to be embarassed about with precum. I think that is some of the sexiest stuff to see a girl dripping. I love seeing that (there are clips all over that I look for and I think other guys do the same because it is fascinating), it is like when the gg gets so wet that you feel it all around the area and even onto the bed. That is what I liken it to, and it is a welcomed thing to most guys.

[NatashaLover]

that's definately my hold up! I won't come off of hormones just to shoot a load for a camera. I'll take cialis to put on a good show on webcam but i'm too masculine to come off of the hormones. =(

sometimes i wish i just ran away from i was 16 and started hormones then but then again puberty started for me as early as 12 =(


Well I have seen you and girl you are adorable and hot! I bet you thousands of girls out there would kill to look like you.
Just keep up the great work and keep looking good, but most important keep having a great personality! :Bowdown:

[Gthoma2a]

Well I have seen you and girl you are adorable and hot! I bet you thousands of girls out there would kill to look like you.
Just keep up the great work and keep looking good, but most important keep having a great personality! :Bowdown:

The avitar looks great!

[NatashaLover]

The avitar looks great!

Thanks! I needed to make a change on it, but there will be more changes coming soon! :)

[bte]

Among other things ... quick shallow breaths , muscle spasms , toe curling etc.

Toe curling can be faked and also the shallow breaths. I faked it once because the sex was so boring.

[morty]

If people didn't like it they wouldn't pay for it but people are paying the price so they will continue to use those people.

I also think it is being done very smart now the people mentioned that pass are in 1 scene and on the cover and the rest are not lets say what you like so they only have to pay 1 big check to the star so more profit is made it's all about business

[Gthoma2a]

There's currently a group of members at TS Seduction who are pissed off about the latest update featuring a non-passable tgirl.

May I ask what model? They have a few that are pretty damned hot. From what I have seen, Honey and Yasmin are awesome. They have used Deanna, Jessica Host, Natasha Dreams, and others that are not too shabby in the past, so they likely need to take the good with the bad. I don't care for everything on HBO, but I will continue to pay for it because a lot of the content is enjoyable.

[tsparisangelline]

ts seduction has alot of non passable transsexuals

[Gthoma2a]

I will agree about some, but then again, you don't consider anyone but yourself passable and we have covered this ground. No reason to hate on all other girls.

[BrendaQG]

kim petras is clockeable

Of course she is, to you and mean and those of us who are in the tranny club.

Have you ever known a Freemason? I have. They claim they can tell a member of their secret club, who they have never met is a member by how they walk and talk.

You and I are in the tranny club. We know the secret hand shake. People who are not in the club don't know the sings. Pretty much if you look more convincing that Mrs. Doubtfire then you are passable. Most people would have not a clue that Kim petras, or most of the other people named in this thread were trans. including most every HA that has commented.

[Andrew Johnson]

Guys who are turned on by transexuals, have some fucked up shit going on in there heads. Why can't you just enjoy what ever turns you on, and not even notice what doesn't?

Why does there always have to be a huge debate....passable vs. not passable...straight vs. gay....implants vs. no implants......blah, blah, blah

Just jerk off to what gets you hard, and hire whatever escorts float your boat. WTF?

[tsparisangelline]

I will agree about some, but then again, you don't consider anyone but yourself passable and we have covered this ground. No reason to hate on all other girls.

I can name girls I actually find passable dear.

Do you wish to see the list?

[tsparisangelline]

Of course she is, to you and mean and those of us who are in the tranny club.

Have you ever known a Freemason? I have. They claim they can tell a member of their secret club, who they have never met is a member by how they walk and talk.

You and I are in the tranny club. We know the secret hand shake. People who are not in the club don't know the sings. Pretty much if you look more convincing that Mrs. Doubtfire then you are passable. Most people would have not a clue that Kim petras, or most of the other people named in this thread were trans. including most every HA that has commented.

I have met many transsexuals that I have not clocked, Kim Petras is clockeable.

It is not about me seeing it in them, it what the rest of the world sees.

http://img.metro.co.uk/i/pix/2008/09b/KimPetras180908_450x423.jpg

[Gthoma2a]

When will you get that it is subjective. What is passable to you isn't the universal definition of passable and what isn't to you is not a closed case to reality either. You have your opinion, but it is just an opinion.

[tsparisangelline]

When will you get that it is subjective. What is passable to you isn't the universal definition of passable and what isn't to you is not a closed case to reality either. You have your opinion, but it is just an opinion.

Passability is not like beauty (IT IS NOT IN THE EYES OF THE BEHOLDER).

You fail to realize that just because you think a girl is attractive DOES NOT mean she is passable.

You need to LEARN THAT beauty and passability do not go hand in hand.

PASSABILTY is determined by the girls overall look compared to a GG's and the ability to walk effortlessly in broad daylight and not receive anything defaming them or spooking their "tea".

Beauty is judged by different people and their beliefs in what physically attracts them.

White men normally prefer more petite figured woman with big breasts.

Black men normally prefer larger girls with small waists, large thighs, large buttocks and hips.

WAKE UP hun. Get into how the program works, and stop acting like you know something about a community you most likely have zero association with other than these forums.


Now pump to the beat i am making.

:) (over and OUT)

[Gthoma2a]

Okay, it isn't science. Two people will often think differently, that is subjectivity. This is not science where we can speak in definites. If you were right, Maury would have been teaching a class rather than picking on people for the inability to clock a manly girl versus a hot ts (although, for you, you may could rewatch and learn the lesson). The idea of gender being predetermined based on traits that you put forth as "science" sounds like stuff from WWII that the Nazis used to determined kids who looked most German. Let's finish the conversation with, I agree to disagree.

[blatinobrotha]

Paris, Paris, Paris....

[dderek123]

Guys who are turned on by transexuals, have some fucked up shit going on in there heads. Why can't you just enjoy what ever turns you on, and not even notice what doesn't?

Why does there always have to be a huge debate....passable vs. not passable...straight vs. gay....implants vs. no implants......blah, blah, blah

Just jerk off to what gets you hard, and hire whatever escorts float your boat. WTF?

..................... Indeed.

[TSPornFan]

White men petite figured woman with big breasts.

Black men normally prefer larger girls with small waists, large thighs, large buttocks and hips.




I'm a black man who prefers tits over ass any day, and only like white women.

Just sayin'.

[tsparisangelline]

Paris, Paris, Paris....

hmmmmmm????

[tsparisangelline]

I'm a black man who prefers tits over ass any day, and only like white women.

Just sayin'.

But you know as well as I that the majority of black men prefer ass, lol.