Psychological Profiles of Closet Cases

[Nicole Dupre]

I think what makes the TS scene the most fucked up is all the secret lives you dudes live. It's often pretty entertaining, although sad, but then there are the really awkward and fucked up situations.

For any guy here who has never told anyone about their thing for trannys, how do you cope? And let me just say, I understand an adult's right to privacy. But I think that the TS sex world is also a very unresolved issue for many of you. It's not that you simply want privacy, but more like you're keeping secrets and feeling guilty. Personally, I think that's so sad. It must be quite a burden.

[tslvrnyc]

I think what makes the TS scene the most fucked up is all the secret lives you dudes live. It's often pretty entertaining, although sad, but then there are the really awkward and fucked up situations.

For any guy here who has never told anyone about their thing for trannys, how do you cope? And let me just say, I understand an adult's right to privacy. But I think that the TS sex world is also a very unresolved issue for many of you. It's not that you simply want privacy, but more like you're keeping secrets and feeling guilty. Personally, I think that's so sad. It must be quite a burden.

It deserves its own entry in the DSM-IV, Transphiliaphobia.

[franks]

I think what makes the TS scene the most fucked up is all the secret lives you dudes live. It's often pretty entertaining, although sad, but then there are the really awkward and fucked up situations.

For any guy here who has never told anyone about their thing for trannys, how do you cope? And let me just say, I understand an adult's right to privacy. But I think that the TS sex world is also a very unresolved issue for many of you. It's not that you simply want privacy, but more like you're keeping secrets and feeling guilty. Personally, I think that's so sad. It must be quite a burden.

Have you ever seen Chris Hansen's "To Catch A Predator"? The same should be done with males who sneak around with transsexuals, lol.

[Gthoma2a]

I find a few interesting dynamics. Society hasn't decided the guy vs girl dynamic as a whole, so liking a tranny becomes too complicated of a thing to label. It is subjective to who you are talking to if you are gay or not. I came to the conclusion a long time ago, I don't know what the fuck to call it, but I know what I like and am fine with it.

Second, a lot of t-girls don't realize that they create some of these weird and awkward situations by being a society filled with so many who work as escorts. This leaves the genre looking like (to general society that simply gives it a glance) gay boys who wanted to make money by dressing and acting like girls. This creates a perverse mentality towards them, ruining the whole scenario, taking away respect from the girls and leaving the girls with detriments that will never let them feel fully accepted (guys notice their most sensitive erogenous zone and they suddenly feel ashamed to be born). This leads to the next situation.

Guys have problems having to wear kid gloves when talking to ts girls because of the fact that they seem so ashamed to be there. Any sign of acceptance (not bottoming for them, but even rubbing them while fucking them) seems gay to them. This is due to the lingering effects of society not being sure how to classify them, so if someone likes them, is that person gay becomes an issue to them. This leads to guys who want to truly accept them as beautiful girls and want to please them in every way seeming unappealing and closet cases who try to act like their key method of pleasure doesn't exist seem somehow caring. This is the situation as I note it in a nutshell. This is why some guys have to walk on eggshells when talking to ts girls. You want them to know you see them as a girl in every way, but have the desire to get them off in every way and they turn it to "you aren't seeing me as me." It is madness, but I am attracted to them.

Why? I love the visible and more apparent signs of arousal. I think it is attractive as hell. If girls clits showed through their pants (like hard nipples) I would be satisfied with genetic girls, but I love the sight of a girl who I know is horny. That is a pleasant visual. I also love the visible cumming. There is no ambiguity regarding the orgasms and to a certain extent how powerful they were. It is there to see. I love the lack of hangups (in some). I have had biological girls who drove me fucking nuts with their bullshit. Things like "it feels so good when you lick my ass, but don't do it because it makes me feel dirty after." When trying to teach a girlfriend how to squirt (I love Cytheria for it... visible sign again) and despite her peeing three times directly prior, she swears she must just have to pee when she is about to cum. These types of things drive me crazy. I like ts girls for that and will continue to deal with whatever mess it brings because it is the most attractive option to me because of these things.

This is my survey of the landscape within the ts/guys who like them world. I can only speak for me and what I have observed (other than some who are just purely bottoms).

[Nicole Dupre]

Have you ever seen Chris Hansen's "To Catch A Predator"? The same should be done with males who sneak around with transsexuals, lol.
No! We don't need that. lol When you see an escort, discretion is part of the package. I mean the guys who call trannys up and say stupid shit like, "I want to drink your cum!", yet who go home and tell their sons 'not to act like faggots', because he secretly wants to yell at himself for being a 'faggot'. People can be very dishonest with themselves and it manifests itself in horrible ways at times. This is why when gay people come out, they are often given a big "yawn" as a response; they thought it was such a big deal, but they realize that most people don't care. That's also sad, but at least they get it over with and move forward.

Have you ever read or seen "Last Exit to Brooklyn"? That book really approached the subject in a brutal way. And it's the same kind of mindset that exists in men's prisons, when these guys return home after having lots of anal sex, yet they never deal with it emotionally. They try to block it out.

[franks]

No! We don't need that. lol When you see an escort, discretion is part of the package. I mean the guys who call trannys up and say stupid shit like, "I want to drink your cum!", yet who go home and tell their sons 'not to act like faggots', because he secretly wants to yell at himself for being a 'faggot'. People can be very dishonest with themselves and it manifests itself in horrible ways at times. This is why when gay people come out, they are often given a big "yawn" as a response; they thought it was such a big deal, but they realize that most people don't care. That's also sad, but at least they get it over with and move forward.

Have you ever read or seen "Last Exit to Brooklyn"? That book really approached the subject in a brutal way. And it's the same kind of mindset that exists in men's prisons, when these guys return home after having lots of anal sex, yet they never deal with it emotionally. They try to block it out.
Good point. No one makes a big deal about Elton John because he came out early on. But if it was kept secret for years and he was busted somewhere soliciting, it would be front page news.

[Nicole Dupre]

Good point. No one makes a big deal about Elton John because he came out early on. But if it was kept secret for years and he was busted somewhere soliciting, it would be front page news.
... especially if he was crusading against the LGBT community at large, like all of these hypocritical politicians and priests always do.

[franks]

... especially if he was crusading against the LGBT community at learge, like all of these hypocritical politicians and priests always do.

I watch the "lockup" prison series occasionally, and hear these guys talk about being in relationships with transsexuals as a coping mechanism; which could be true, but many just don't want to deal with it.

[almoststraight]

I'll offer myself on the chopping block here, and confess that I'm not totally open about it.

I have absolutely no hang ups about whether I'm "gay" or not, it just doesn't matter to me. I've told both my sons all their lives to like whoever they want to like, and date whoever they want to date, and fuck anyone who gives them a hard time about it. I have two women, a wife and a girlfriend, who are completely aware of each other (they are romantically involved with each other actually), and both of them are also aware that I also like ts girls, and they also aren't hung up about it.

But that's it -- no one else in my life knows about my sexuality, and I think maybe they shouldn't. Should my grand parents know that I like psychological power games in bed, or how well hung I am, or that I've messed with a guy to try it and I actually didn't mind it but it sort of wasn't my thing?

No, they don't need to know that, and they don't need to know I like girls who have penises either.

On the other hand, if a ts came along and became a serious part of my life, I wouldn't be a bitch and try to keep it a big secret, I'd follow her lead on what she wanted to reveal. Maybe that's the real line: I might not publicly own it as a kink, but I would be honest about a person who was actually an important part of my life.

So what do you think Nicole? Am I a chaser closet case, or do I get a pass? 8)

[TSCURIOUS]

Nicole - Honestly - I'm secure, normal and well adjusted and trust me - I have no burden.
Why do you think any of us would?
I think you have many more "burdens" than all of us who love the girls-

[Nicole Dupre]

I'll offer myself on the chopping block here, and confess that I'm not totally open about it.

I have absolutely no hang ups about whether I'm "gay" or not, it just doesn't matter to me. I've told both my sons all their lives to like whoever they want to like, and date whoever they want to date, and fuck anyone who gives them a hard time about it. I have two women, a wife and a girlfriend, who are completely aware of each other (they are romantically involved with each other actually), and both of them are also aware that I also like ts girls, and they also aren't hung up about it.

But that's it -- no one else in my life knows about my sexuality, and I think maybe they shouldn't. Should my grand parents know that I like psychological power games in bed, or how well hung I am, or that I've messed with a guy to try it and I actually didn't mind it but it sort of wasn't my thing?

No, they don't need to know that, and they don't need to know I like girls who have penises either.

On the other hand, if a ts came along and became a serious part of my life, I wouldn't be a bitch and try to keep it a big secret, I'd follow her lead on what she wanted to reveal. Maybe that's the real line: I might not publicly own it as a kink, but I would be honest about a person who was actually an important part of my life.

So what do you think Nicole? Am I a chaser closet case, or do I get a pass? 8)
That's different. I'm talking about the people carrying guilt around. And it's not a pass/fail thing. Many people do get past this stuff but, while they're getting there, they are carrying around toxic emotions which spill into other aspects of their lives. Of course, some people don't worry about stuff like this from the beginning, or they deal with it relatively early on. That's why trannys can't take delusional guys seriously. We know other people enter these things with their eyes more open.

And I don't think the toxic emotion/thinking always manifests itself as over-the-top macho behavior. I think some poor souls walk around being really wounded, and become passive towards life. It's really sad, and there's nothing for us to be pissed about. The guys who do a nose-dive into satisfying their curiosity, and who are playing the fools, are usually the ones we're dissing.

[reg]

That's different. I'm talking about the people carrying guilt around. And it's not a pass/fail thing. Many people do get past this stuff but, while they're getting there, they are carrying around toxic emotions which spill into other aspects of their lives. Of course, some people don't worry about stuff like this from the beginning, or they deal with it relatively early on. That's why trannys can't take delusional guys seriously.

And I don't think the toxic emotion/thinking always manifests itself as over-the-top macho behavior. I think some poor souls walk around being really wounded, and become passive towards life. It's really sad, and there's nothing for us to be pissed about. The guys who do a nose-dive into satisfying their curiosity, and who are playing the fools, are usually the ones we're dissing.


Well, why are men, TS fans to blame, a lot of women out there are closeted sluts, acting all nice in public...

[Aardvark]

No! We don't need that. lol When you see an escort, discretion is part of the package. I mean the guys who call trannys up and say stupid shit like, "I want to drink your cum!", yet who go home and tell their sons 'not to act like faggots', because he secretly wants to yell at himself for being a 'faggot'...

It's analogous to that guy concealing an addiction to drugs- he's compelled to do it and there's a thrill to it but it's also sick and wrong and not something he'd want his children to do.

[Nicole Dupre]

Nicole - Honestly - I'm secure, normal and well adjusted and trust me - I have no burden.
Why do you think any of us would?
I think you have many more "burdens" than all of us who love the girls-
Because I see how some guys are wrestling with it. lol

Who do you think comes across more emotional basket cases who are T-curious? Trannys or you?

[giovanni_hotel]

Can you give us a hypothetical 'case study', Professor Nikki??
Just so I can put it in real human terms.

[Nicole Dupre]

Well, why are men, TS fans to blame, a lot of women out there are closeted sluts, acting all nice in public...
Who's blaming anyone? And what good would that do? I'm just talking about the guys who haven't worked it out for themselves. I mean, I guess if you want to blame someone, you can blame society. But trust me, this "am I gay" bullshit is gnawing away at some people more than others.

Btw thank you for tipping your hand about how you really feel; that trannys are "secret-sluts". But I've already seen that you have a bit of baggage yourself, so no big shock. ;) lol

[Nicole Dupre]

Can you give us a hypothetical 'case study', Professor Nikki??
Just so I can put it in real human terms.
An example? lol How about any of the hypocritical politicians getting busted for indiscreet faggotry? That's not even a tranny issue.

[reg]

Who's blaming anyone? And what good would that do? I'm just talking about the guys who haven't worked it out for themselves. I mean, I guess if you want to blame someone, you can blame society. But trust me, this "am I gay" bullshit is gnawing away at some people more than others.

Btw thank you for tipping your hand about how you really feel; that trannys are "secret-sluts". But I've already seen that you have a bit of baggage yourself, so no big shock. ;) lol

i wasn't speaking of trannys, but women in general...

at least most ts/cds are more honest about what they want (sex or money)

[Nicole Dupre]

i wasn't speaking of trannys, but women in general...

at least most ts/cds are more honest about what they want (sex or money)
No, sweetheart. ESCORTS are more honest.

[TSCURIOUS]

Got me there!
Perhaps I need to come see you so you can a normal, well-adjusted person who has no tranny hang-ups.
Heck - I'm only 30 minutes away

[reg]

No, sweetheart. ESCORTS are more honest.

never been with an escort

but i have hooked with some good looking cds and ts... though i prefer cds because they dont deal with hormonal effects on their brains

[Nicole Dupre]

never been with an escort

but i have hooked with some good looking cds and ts... though i prefer cds because they dont deal with hormonal effects on their brains
That's fine with me. lol

After hearing that you haven't seen any TS escorts, I doubt you could be basing your opinions on that many experiences.

Anyway...

[Nicole Dupre]

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/assault/roots/freud.html


Henry E. Adams, Lester W. Wright' Jr., and Bethany A. Lohr conducted this research at the Psychology Department of the University of Georgia, where Dr. Adams is now professor emeritus.


Hostility and discrimination against homosexual individuals are well-established facts. On occasion, these negative attitudes lead to hostile verbal and physical acts against gay individuals with little apparent motivation except a strong dislike. In fact, more than 90% of gay men and lesbians report being targets of verbal abuse or threats, and more than one-third report being survivors of violence related to their homosexuality. Although negative attitudes and behaviors toward gay individuals have been assumed to be associated with rigid moralistic beliefs, sexual ignorance, and fear of homosexuality, the etiology of these attitudes and behaviors remains a puzzle. Weinberg ( 1972 ) labeled these attitudes and behaviors homophobia, which he defined as the dread of being in close quarters with homosexual men and women as well as irrational fear, hatred, and intolerance by heterosexual individuals of homosexual men and women. . . .
Although the causes of homophobia are unclear, several psychoanalytic explanations have emerged from the idea of homophobia as an anxiety-based phenomenon. One psychoanalytic explanation is that anxiety about the possibility of being or becoming a homosexual may be a major factor in homophobia. For example, de Kuyper (1993) has asserted that homophobia is the result of the remnants of homosexuality in the heterosexual resolution of the Oedipal conflict. Whereas these notions are vague, psychoanalytic theories usually postulate that homophobia is a result of repressed homosexual urges or a form of latent homosexuality. Latent homosexuality can be defined as homosexual arousal which the individual is either unaware of or dent. Psychoanalysts use the concept of repressed or latent homosexuality to explain the emotional malaise and irrational attitudes displayed by some individuals who feel guilty about their erotic interests and struggle to deny and repress homosexual impulses. In fact, West stated, 'when placed in a situation that threatens to excite their own unwanted homosexual thoughts, they overreact with panic or anger." Slaby ( 1994 ) contended that anxiety about homosexuality typically does not occur in individuals who are same-sex oriented, but it usually involves individuals who are ostensibly heterosexual and have difficulty integrating their homosexual feelings or activity. The relationship between homophobia and latent homosexuality has not been empirically investigated and is one of the purposes of the present study.

Specifically, the present study was designed to investigate whether homophobic men show more sexual arousal to homosexual cues than nonhomophobic men as suggested by psychoanalytic theory. . . .

The results of this study indicate that individuals who score in the homophobic range and admit negative affect toward homosexuality demonstrate significant sexual arousal to male homosexual erotic stimuli. These individuals were selected on the basis of their report of having only heterosexual arousal and experiences. Furthermore, their ratings of erection and arousal to homosexual stimuli were low and not significantly different from nonhomophobic men who demonstrated no significant increase in penile response to homosexual stimuli. These data are consistent with response discordance where verbal judgments are not consistent with physiological reactivity, as in the case of homophobic individuals viewing homosexual stimuli. Lang (1994 ) has noted that the most dramatic response discordance occurs with reports of feeling and physiologic responses. Another possible explanation is found in various psychoanalytic theories, which have generally explained homophobia as a threat to an individual's own homosexual impulses causing repression, denial, or reaction formation (or all three; West, 1977 ). Generally, these varied explanations conceive of homophobia as one type of latent homosexuality where persons either are unaware of or deny their homosexual urges. These data are consistent with these notions.

Another explanation of these data is found in Barlow, Sakheim, and Beck's ( 1983) theory of the role of anxiety and attention in sexual responding. It is possible that viewing homosexual stimuli causes negative emotions such as anxiety in homophobic men but not in nonhomophobic men. Because anxiety has been shown to enhance arousal and erection, this theory would predict increases in erection in homophobic men. Furthermore, it would indicate that a response to homosexual stimuli is a function of the threat condition rather than sexual arousal per se. Whereas difficulties of objectively evaluating psychoanalytic hypotheses are well-documented, these approaches would predict that sexual arousal is an intrinsic response to homosexual stimuli, whereas Barlow's (1986 ) theory would predict that sexual arousal to homosexual stimuli by homophobic individuals is a function of anxiety. These competing potions can and should be evaluated by future research.

The hypothesis that homophobic men are merely aggressive is not supported by the present data. There were no differences in aggression scores between groups as measured by the Aggression Questionnaire. . . .

[mac.B]

I think what makes the TS scene the most fucked up is all the secret lives you dudes live. It's often pretty entertaining, although sad, but then there are the really awkward and fucked up situations.

For any guy here who has never told anyone about their thing for trannys, how do you cope? And let me just say, I understand an adult's right to privacy. But I think that the TS sex world is also a very unresolved issue for many of you. It's not that you simply want privacy, but more like you're keeping secrets and feeling guilty. Personally, I think that's so sad. It must be quite a burden.

There you go bein all presumptive n shit. A lot of people the know me know that I like this, but even when they didn't theres still a thrillion things to communicate with them about. Why is it that in this "community" do u only deal wit the sexual aspect of a person? Yeah theres a lot of fucked up guys here, but you want to know what (I think) is the biggest problem? A lot of these transsexuals are too damn insecure, materialistic, and shallow, among other things, to deal with someone on a real and intimate level. Bottom line. Them being a "tranny" always has to come up for no damn reason. Ladies: youre a tranny...so the fuck what. Be that, be comfortable and we can chill. Most of you cant though, so the dick you get and...bye. On to the next one, fortunately or unfortunately.

[reg]

That's fine with me. lol

After hearing that you haven't seen any TS escorts, I doubt you could be basing your opinions on that many experiences.

Anyway...

i dont need to pay for sex

and i think id feel really dirty with a provider, ether gg or tg...

[Jericho]

and i think id feel really dirty with a provider, ether gg or tg...


Hmmmm...Interesting!

[Nicole Dupre]

There you go bein all presumptive n shit. A lot of people the know me know that I like this, but even when they didn't theres still a thrillion things to communicate with them about. Why is it that in this "community" do u only deal wit the sexual aspect of a person? Yeah theres a lot of fucked up guys here, but you want to know what (I think) is the biggest problem? A lot of these transsexuals are too damn insecure, materialistic, and shallow, among other things, to deal with someone on a real and intimate level. Bottom line. Them being a "tranny" always has to come up for no damn reason. Ladies: youre a tranny...so the fuck what. Be that, be comfortable and we can chill. Most of you cant though, so the dick you get and...bye. On to the next one, fortunately or unfortunately.
Ouch. I see. But what's that got to do with repressed sexuality?

Btw, trannys can have repressed feelings too. So what are you going on about, with all that bitching? Did I say we were perfect? All I said was that trannys generally aren't the repressed ones, if anyone is.

This is a perfect example of what I meant, about the baggage and anger. There's always some guy having a hissy fit. "You're all a buncha' rotten heartless fuggin' whores!" *sniffle

Chill out, dude. It's gonna be ok. lol

[Nicole Dupre]

i dont need to pay for sex

and i think id feel really dirty with a provider, ether gg or tg...
Ok. Well, I wouldn't want anyone to spend money they don't need to, or to get all soiled and icky. lol

[mac.B]

Ouch. I see. But what's that got to do with repressed sexuality?

Btw, trannys can have repressed feelings too. So what are going on about, with all that bitching? Did I say we were perfect? All I said was that trannys generally aren't the repressed ones, if anyone is.

This is a perfect example of what I meant, about the baggage and anger. There's always some guy having a hissy fit. "You're all a buncha' rotten heartless fuggin' whores!" *sniffle

Chill out, dude. It's gonna be ok. lol

Nobodys angry now. Cmon now! Just like a white woman; quick to pull that angry ish. I dont have noooooooo gd baggage about nothin. Like I said my people know me...

[Nicole Dupre]

Nobodys angry now. Cmon now! Just like a white woman; quick to pull that angry ish. I dont have noooooooo gd baggage about nothin. Like I said my people know me...
Ok. lol............

[reg]

Ok. Well, I wouldn't want anyone to spend money they don't need to, or to get all soiled and icky. lol

I for one care about hygiene, both personal and of my partner

I dont think a prostitute can ever be "clean" of disease...

[reg]

btw nicole, why do you have those tattoos, youd be more feminine without them...

[Nicole Dupre]

btw nicole, why do you have those tattoos, youd be more feminine without them...
You're a trip. lol

You really seem to know a lot about femininity and diseases.

[Nicole Dupre]

Anyway, all of these sluts know that my cock is the most feminine, and that my asshole smells the most like a twat. ;)

[franks]

Anyway, all of these sluts know that my cock is the most feminine, and that my asshole smells the most like a twat. ;)
So it looks like a taco and smells like a fish? Just kidding Nicole! I'd like to find out for myself, though.

[Nowhere]

To be perfectly honest, there's not one way, but many webs of hate and denial present around you girls:

- The guys who are truly gay, but ashamed, or worse, are in denial of it, and only with tgirls as a sort of "that's ok" kind of justification going on (cock bandits, vast majority of Johns, IMO)

- The guys who are bi, but ashamed, or worse, are in denial of it, and only with tgirls as a sort of "that's ok" kind of justification going on. Those guys typically have further confusion since they like pussy too.

- The guys who simply get a kick of how "wrong" it is, in the way people get their rocks off on digressive sexual things, say in the way a GG might get her rocks off on anal sex, or a couple who are cheating on their boyfriend and girlfriend might get their rocks off on how "so wrong, but so right" their affair is. I'd imagine these guys would be the rare, "only tops" that are around.

- The guys who have a trans nature to themselves, who somehow (I can't even understand the way it works, but it's true) manifest it in being around you girls. But, that's gender identity, not sexual orientation, so further confusion/denial may be present if they're into guys and don't want to accept that, either.

And, to top it all, any man who is drawn to femininity, even if they are completely straight, will be attracted to some tgirls who have transitioned well, since they are being feminine, just like bio girls are. They're wired to be drawn to your appearance, smell, curves, etc - just like any other woman. I know most people don't like to admit this, but YES, guys who even turn down tgirls and wouldn't be with a trans woman in their life, are still attracted to you. And, that'll f*ck with their minds if they ever bump into you and find out later, or hell, even just turn on Maury and pick the wrong girl in the lineup.

It is what it is, and will be for this generation, and the next. I think attitudes will change once transitioning at puberty becomes the norm, given that virtually all girls will simply look like ggirls, making the reality true and apparent. But, we're not there yet...

[Nicole Dupre]

To be perfectly honest, there's not one way, but many webs of hate and denial present around you girls:

- The guys who are truly gay, but ashamed, or worse, are in denial of it, and only with tgirls as a sort of "that's ok" kind of justification going on (cock bandits, vast majority of Johns, IMO)

- The guys who are bi, but ashamed, or worse, are in denial of it, and only with tgirls as a sort of "that's ok" kind of justification going on. Those guys typically have further confusion since they like pussy too.

- The guys who simply get a kick of how "wrong" it is, in the way people get their rocks off on digressive sexual things, say in the way a GG might get her rocks off on anal sex, or a couple who are cheating on their boyfriend and girlfriend might get their rocks off on how "so wrong, but so right" their affair is. I'd imagine these guys would be the rare, "only tops" that are around.

- The guys who have a trans nature to themselves, who somehow (I can't even understand the way it works, but it's true) manifest it in being around you girls. But, that's gender identity, not sexual orientation, so further confusion/denial may be present if they're into guys and don't want to accept that, either.

And, to top it all, any man who is drawn to femininity, even if they are completely straight, will be attracted to some tgirls who have transitioned well, since they are being feminine, just like bio girls are. They're wired to be drawn to your appearance, smell, curves, etc - just like any other woman. I know most people don't like to admit this, but YES, guys who even turn down tgirls and wouldn't be with a trans woman in their life, are still attracted to you. And, that'll f*ck with their minds if they ever bump into you and find out later, or hell, even just turn on Maury and pick the wrong girl in the lineup.

It is what it is, and will be for this generation, and the next. I think attitudes will change once transitioning at puberty becomes the norm, given that virtually all girls will simply look like ggirls, making the reality true and apparent. But, we're not there yet...
Wow. It's actually a lot worse than I thought. lol

[Ben]

I think what makes the TS scene the most fucked up is all the secret lives you dudes live. It's often pretty entertaining, although sad, but then there are the really awkward and fucked up situations.

For any guy here who has never told anyone about their thing for trannys, how do you cope? And let me just say, I understand an adult's right to privacy. But I think that the TS sex world is also a very unresolved issue for many of you. It's not that you simply want privacy, but more like you're keeping secrets and feeling guilty. Personally, I think that's so sad. It must be quite a burden.

It is a burden....

[goku]

Wow. It's actually a lot worse than I thought. lol


No, it's not!


Every guy has that"does this mean I am gay" moment. Whether it's walking up on someone with long pretty hair, only to see it's just a man who uses good hair products, or seeing someone running with tan legs and shorts shorts in the distance, only upon closer inspection to see it was a guy who chose to run in something the length of his boxers.


Every man is attracted to a hot TS woman, the same as they would be if she was a GG. When they find out that she indeed used to be a man, they walk away questioning their manhood. Some choose to investigate further, and others allow their sheer terror to prevent them from stepping forward. Regardless, we all get wood when we see them. That is why when guys get fooled and find out, they flip the fuck out. It isn't so much the fact that they were lied to, as it is they are furious that their body/mind betrayed them, and someone has to be for it.

I went through the range of emotions during my first encounter with the TS world. I was drawn in over some pictures. Me being the kind of person who has to see how deep the rabbit hole goes, I looked further. Fast forward to now. I was outed by my ex girlfriend, trying to get back at me for breaking up with her. It didn't have the effect she thought it would. She actually did me a huge favor. Since then I haven't actually dated a TS, but I do have quite a few TS friends now.

[Nicole Dupre]

It is a burden....
Well, if it's any consolation, Ben, plain ol' gay people go through it too. lol In fact, anyone who's not sticking strictly to 'hetero' missionary, for procreational purposes only, basically is possibly going to have the leeches placed on them. It's just another silly thing to live up to. They come up with this crap to make people feel inferior and vulnerable. In fact, masochists will do it to themselves. People learn what's "wrong with them", and act accordingly. It's not unlike the church turning basic common sense into "sin" and the 10 commandments, when all they really needed was one good one like, "Thou shall not be a fucking loser."

Anyway, I feel for you, Ben.

[Nicole Dupre]

No, it's not!


Every guy has that"does this mean I am gay" moment. Whether it's walking up on someone with long pretty hair, only to see it's just a man who uses good hair products, or seeing someone running with tan legs and shorts shorts in the distance, only upon closer inspection to see it was a guy who chose to run in something the length of his boxers.


Every man is attracted to a hot TS woman, the same as they would be if she was a GG. When they find out that she indeed used to be a man, they walk away questioning their manhood. Some choose to investigate further, and others allow their sheer terror to prevent them from stepping forward. Regardless, we all get wood when we see them. That is why when guys get fooled and find out, they flip the fuck out. It isn't so much the fact that they were lied to, as it is they are furious that their body/mind betrayed them, and someone has to be for it.

I went through the range of emotions during my first encounter with the TS world. I was drawn in over some pictures. Me being the kind of person who has to see how deep the rabbit hole goes, I looked further. Fast forward to now. I was outed by my ex girlfriend, trying to get back at me for breaking up with her. It didn't have the effect she thought it would. She actually did me a huge favor. Since then I haven't actually dated a TS, but I do have quite a few TS friends now.
I understand all that, but I'm not speaking in absolutes. I'm making no blanket statements. I'm just talking about people's inherent tendencies and basic human nature, and how it can all go wrong, and how certain other people can and will take advantage of such things.

[Dkg]

Nicole, first of all, who goes out and one day decides to randomly tell their mom, dad, sister, brother, best friend, girlfriend, whoever, "Hey, I just thought you should know, I'm sexually attracted to transsexual women. You know, women with Penises? Yeah, I like to have sex with them." Now, don't get me wrong, there's NOTHING wrong with telling someone that or "confessing" it. It's just that I've never seen any reason whatsoever to just tell someone that. What business is it of anyone elses what you do and don't like sexually?

I don't see men or women announcing they love to use dildos. Or that they have foot fetishes. most people just assume if you are a guy you like women and if you are a female you like men. Although since transsexuals ARE women it basically falls under the correct assumption...sorta. I suppose in a world or country where "sexual orientations" and labels weren't so important to society it would be different.

Hell, I know I wish it were different as I'm sure everyone else here does. I'm not "scared" or "afraid" but until I find the time and place and appropriate situation for "coming out" I don't think I'm just going to shout it to the world just because. Now If I were on a date with you and my mom, dad, friend, whoever, saw us together then yes, I 'd introduce you as a regular girl that I was dating. Then, things would go from there.

[Nicole Dupre]

Nicole, first of all, who goes out and one day decides to randomly tell their mom, dad, sister, brother, best friend, girlfriend, whoever, "Hey, I just thought you should know, I'm sexually attracted to transsexual women. You know, women with Penises? Yeah, I like to have sex with them." Now, don't get me wrong, there's NOTHING wrong with telling someone that or "confessing" it. It's just that I've never seen any reason whatsoever to just tell someone that. What business is it of anyone elses what you do and don't like sexually?

I don't see men or women announcing they love to use dildos. Or that they have foot fetishes. most people just assume if you are a guy you like women and if you are a female you like men. Although since transsexuals ARE women it basically falls under the correct assumption...sorta. I suppose in a world or country where "sexual orientations" and labels weren't so important to society it would be different.

Hell, I know I wish it were different as I'm sure everyone else here does. I'm not "scared" or "afraid" but until I find the time and place and appropriate situation for "coming out" I don't think I'm just going to shout it to the world just because. Now If I were on a date with you and my mom, dad, friend, whoever, saw us together then yes, I 'd introduce you as a regular girl that I was dating. Then, things would go from there.
That mostly makes sense. But I never said you necessarily had to tell your parents what you do. That's nuts. lol You're not supposed to tell them everything. But most parents have some idea what the sexuality of their adult child is. And I just think never telling anyone, ever, is sad.

Plus, let's face it. If you wanted to bring it up in casual conversation at some point with someone you're close to, like you might bring up any other aspect of your life, you'd be forced to hold back. But if you think keeping it hidden is best, more power to you. Gay people and trannys usually have an epiphany of some sort, and choose to live with the possibility of being ostracized. There comes a time they decide they'll no longer hide anything, and won't deny themselves of anything, that a hetero/breeder wouldn't hide or deny themselves.

[CaptainPlanet]

That mostly makes sense. But I never said you necessarily had to tell your parents what you do. That's nuts. lol You're not supposed to tell them everything. But most parents have some idea what the sexuality of their adult child is. And I just think never telling anyone, ever, is sad.

Plus, let's face it. If you wanted to bring it up in casual conversation at some point with someone you're close to, like you might bring up any other aspect of your life, you'd be forced to hold back. But if you think keeping it hidden is best, more power to you. Gay people and trannys usually have an epiphany of some sort, and choose to live with the possibility of being ostracized. There comes a time they decide they'll no longer hide anything, and won't deny themselves of anything, that a hetero/breeder wouldn't hide or deny themselves.


You think that just because they came out or decided to be TS that there not hiding anything? Thats the dumbest shit i have ever heard. Im sure your parents hid something from you as a child or maybe even through out your whole life, do you think they feel a burden upon them?

[Nicole Dupre]

You think that just because they came out or decided to be TS that there not hiding anything? Thats the dumbest shit i have ever heard. Im sure your parents hid something from you as a child or maybe even through out your whole life, do you think they feel a burden upon them?
Oh, please. Who are you kidding. When other guys are saying, 'Jenna Jameson is so hot', don't you ever just want to say to them, "Yeah, I guess. But you know who I think's totally hot? I'd love to have that (name the tranny of your choice) bang my ass." Well, you can't without some repressed closet faggot giving you a hard time about it. Closet fags help to enforce the anti-fag/anti-TS social dynamic in the world.

[goku]

Oh, please. Who are you kidding. When other guys are saying, 'Jenna Jameson is so hot', don't you ever just want to say to them, "Yeah, I guess. But you know who I think's totally hot? I'd love to have that (name the tranny of your choice) bang my ass." Well, you can't without some repressed closet faggot giving you a hard time about it. Closet fags help to enforce the anti-fag/anti-TS social dynamic in the world.


lol...... so true.

About a week ago I was talking with a group of friends, and the topic came up of "if Beyonce had a dick would you still fuck her?"

I replied yes, and you could have heard a pin drop for about 15 seconds, then all hell broke loose. People started asking me how could I, to which I explained that my dick doesn't give a damn what's between a girl's legs, when she looks like that. Its funny, one of my friends came up later and admitted that when he was in LA, a TS girl wanted to have sex, and he was a millisecond from doing it.

I don't just wear a sign. I just pop in my answers in convenient conversations like that. The funny part is people usually just deal. That might just be because I live in Austin though. Not sure.

[braveheart0219]

Have you seen that people are now fired from their jobs over what they post on Facebook. We live in a scared and paranoid world with extreme economic consequences to almost all our decisions. If as a construction products salesperson all my facebook friends were trannys, how long would I still have my job ? Is that right fair or a burden? no no and yes....

[CaptainPlanet]

That mostly makes sense. But I never said you necessarily had to tell your parents what you do. That's nuts. lol You're not supposed to tell them everything. But most parents have some idea what the sexuality of their adult child is. And I just think never telling anyone, ever, is sad.

Plus, let's face it. If you wanted to bring it up in casual conversation at some point with someone you're close to, like you might bring up any other aspect of your life, you'd be forced to hold back. But if you think keeping it hidden is best, more power to you. Gay people and trannys usually have an epiphany of some sort, and choose to live with the possibility of being ostracized. There comes a time they decide they'll no longer hide anything, and won't deny themselves of anything, that a hetero/breeder wouldn't hide or deny themselves.


Oh, please. Who are you kidding. When other guys are saying, 'Jenna Jameson is so hot', don't you ever just want to say to them, "Yeah, I guess. But you know who I think's totally hot? I'd love to have that (name the tranny of your choice) bang my ass." Well, you can't without some repressed closet faggot giving you a hard time about it. Closet fags help to enforce the anti-fag/anti-TS social dynamic in the world.

I dont even think Jenna Jameson is that hot honestly but there isnt alot of TS that look better then her IMO, so actually id prolly say Kim Kardashian, or actually set the bar to the plateau that only few TS could touch. I have actually showed some of my buddies pics of Jennifer Paris and i didnt out her until the 5th pic and they all said they would still take her down, so theres your answer.

[alyssaluxor]

No! We don't need that. lol When you see an escort, discretion is part of the package. I mean the guys who call trannys up and say stupid shit like, "I want to drink your cum!", yet who go home and tell their sons 'not to act like faggots', because he secretly wants to yell at himself for being a 'faggot'. People can be very dishonest with themselves and it manifests itself in horrible ways at times. This is why when gay people come out, they are often given a big "yawn" as a response; they thought it was such a big deal, but they realize that most people don't care. That's also sad, but at least they get it over with and move forward.

Have you ever read or seen "Last Exit to Brooklyn"? That book really approached the subject in a brutal way. And it's the same kind of mindset that exists in men's prisons, when these guys return home after having lots of anal sex, yet they never deal with it emotionally. They try to block it out.

I also wonder about this, why are guys like this?

[yodajazz]

Nicole, first of all, who goes out and one day decides to randomly tell their mom, dad, sister, brother, best friend, girlfriend, whoever, "Hey, I just thought you should know, I'm sexually attracted to transsexual women. You know, women with Penises? Yeah, I like to have sex with them." Now, don't get me wrong, there's NOTHING wrong with telling someone that or "confessing" it. It's just that I've never seen any reason whatsoever to just tell someone that. What business is it of anyone elses what you do and don't like sexually?

I don't see men or women announcing they love to use dildos. Or that they have foot fetishes. most people just assume if you are a guy you like women and if you are a female you like men. Although since transsexuals ARE women it basically falls under the correct assumption...sorta. I suppose in a world or country where "sexual orientations" and labels weren't so important to society it would be different.

Hell, I know I wish it were different as I'm sure everyone else here does. I'm not "scared" or "afraid" but until I find the time and place and appropriate situation for "coming out" I don't think I'm just going to shout it to the world just because. Now If I were on a date with you and my mom, dad, friend, whoever, saw us together then yes, I 'd introduce you as a regular girl that I was dating. Then, things would go from there.
I agree with this, a lot. I have told a couple of very good friends, but in most of my life, sexual activities are not that important. I did feel it was important to tell my SO about it. I think it was important. I would not mind being in a business where I publically dealt with a trans person (non porn). That would be a way to let the rest of my life know.

[traLika]

For any guy here who has never told anyone about their thing for trannys, how do you cope? And let me just say, I understand an adult's right to privacy. But I think that the TS sex world is also a very unresolved issue for many of you. It's not that you simply want privacy, but more like you're keeping secrets and feeling guilty. Personally, I think that's so sad. It must be quite a burden.


Sure, I’ve hardly told anyone (only a couple of close friends) about my liking for ts but then I’ve always been a private person. I’m hardly gonna shout from the rooftops that I’m into tgirls when I generally don’t say much about my private life anyway. However, if I got into a meaningful long term relationship with a ts I wouldn’t keep that a secret from anybody.

And sure, I once wondered if I’m gay for liking ts who look like beautiful women although I'm not physically attracted to men, and simply came to the conclusion that I’m str8 but who cares if other people think I’m not… So it’s not a burden at all and I’ve never lost any sleep over it. :)

[Nicole Dupre]

For whatever reason, people seem to think I expect them to blurt it out to their grandmother, and I really don't. I don't walk up to people and say, "Hi, I'm Nicole, and btw I have a cock." lol

The thread is about the closet, and the various ways people deal with it. As soon as my genitals are covered, I'm in control of my own privacy too. There's a time and a place for every.. thing. lol

But often the people who are deepest in the closet are also the most misogynistic, homophobic, and/or transphobic. The guys laughing the hardest at the powerbottoms are often doing it to relieve tension over their own secret faggotry. And they exist here on the TS sex circuit aplenty. This forum is crawling with both angry closet queers and angry closet tranny-chasers. I'm not exaggerating, for those of you who think I'd have to make such shit up. Again, if anyone might see one of them coming from a mile away, it would be the trannys. Lucky us. ;) lol

[Nicole Dupre]

Sure, I’ve hardly told anyone (only a couple of close friends) about my liking for ts but then I’ve always been a private person. I’m hardly gonna shout from the rooftops that I’m into tgirls when I generally don’t say much about my private life anyway. However, if I got into a meaningful long term relationship with a ts I wouldn’t keep that a secret from anybody.

And sure, I once wondered if I’m gay for liking ts who look like beautiful women although I'm not physically attracted to men, and simply came to the conclusion that I’m str8 but who cares if other people think I’m not… So it’s not a burden at all and I’ve never lost any sleep over it. :)
It's not about being "gay". It's about worrying that you might be gay; that you might not participate in procreation, and that since you've considered having sex with anything but a genetic vagina, you're inferior.

I'm not talking about anyone in particular, but I suppose I could start naming names. Ok, take phobun for example. All of that antagonistic macho posturing is the tip of a very angry iceberg. Wouldn't you think?

[traLika]

I'm not talking about anyone in particular, but I suppose I could start naming names. Ok, take phobun for example. All of that antagonistic macho posturing is the tip of a very angry iceberg. Wouldn't you think?


I’m not quite sure exactly where phobun’s coming from but it’s certainly not the same place as most of the rest of us. But all the evidence does seem to point in one direction… (BTW he's been quiet recently...)

And there are the other posters who get aggressive when anyone raises issues of sexuality in that they call everyone faggots and threaten to go around and punch a guy’s lights out just because he pointed out that they’re into something that isn’t exactly 100% str8. It’s as if they’re saying “If I can beat the living shit out of you that’s proof that I’m a real man and not gay!” Haha!

And then there’s another one who says he won’t go near a tranny and they’re all mentally ill, and yet he’s been posting here for years. Even funnier.

I guess it takes all sorts...

[Jericho]

For whatever reason, people seem to think I expect them to blurt it out to their grandmother

You nearly gave my Granny a fekkin heart-attack.
Grandads funereal, not the time or place! :dancing:

[JackBeLittle]

I guess I'm "in the closet". But, it's not sad at all. I know that the knowledge would cause a lot of ostracizing and pain to quite a few people (not to mention me). I am neither misogynistic nor angry nor homophobic in the least. This is simply something I keep for me and use it to balance my life. So, I'm sorry that you think that how people choose to express their private desires is viewed by you as sad.

[dabaldone]

For whatever reason, people seem to think I expect them to blurt it out to their grandmother, and I really don't. I don't walk up to people and say, "Hi, I'm Nicole, and btw I have a cock." lol

The thread is about the closet, and the various ways people deal with it. As soon as my genitals are covered, I'm in control of my own privacy too. There's a time and a place for every.. thing. lol

But often the people who are deepest in the closet are also the most misogynistic, homophobic, and/or transphobic. The guys laughing the hardest at the powerbottoms are often doing it to relieve tension over their own secret faggotry. And they exist here on the TS sex circuit aplenty. This forum is crawling with both angry closet queers and angry closet tranny-chasers. I'm not exaggerating, for those of you who think I'd have to make such shit up. Again, if anyone might see one of them coming from a mile away, it would be the trannys. Lucky us. ;) lol

Thanks Nicole for a very well thought out thread. I used to be closeted - so to speak. My biggest fear was someone finding out I was into trans-women and would label me as gay. After a number of years; living a lie - GG's by day, trans-women at night; became unbareable.

Like Goku, I was somewhat outed by an ex. She threatened to tell everyone about my then current gf (Trans-woman). She did me a favor. My family and friends didn't bat an eye.

I agree that there are a LARGE number of men who fall under the category of deep in the closet. These guys are angry and lash out in insane ways. ccepting yourself is the first step.

[mbf]

The closet cases are the best entertainment value (next to the jaded, bitter trannies imo) bc they are so easily spotted, ususally they keep throwing "you're a fag, a cockhound, a scumbag trannychaser" around at any given moment....best are those who even log on in invisible mode at the time, so no one would see that before they start yet another tirade they were browsing the big cock threads ....

[Ben]

Well, if it's any consolation, Ben, plain ol' gay people go through it too. lol In fact, anyone who's not sticking strictly to 'hetero' missionary, for procreational purposes only, basically is possibly going to have the leeches placed on them. It's just another silly thing to live up to. They come up with this crap to make people feel inferior and vulnerable. In fact, masochists will do it to themselves. People learn what's "wrong with them", and act accordingly. It's not unlike the church turning basic common sense into "sin" and the 10 commandments, when all they really needed was one good one like, "Thou shall not be a fucking loser."

Anyway, I feel for you, Ben.

Thanks Nicole... :) And, Nicole, I agree w/ you when you write and I quote: "They come up with this crap to make people feel inferior and vulnerable."
Very true.... It's also about a power system that wants to divide/isolate/categorize people so as to control/discipline/regulate them.
It isn't a conspiracy theory. It's a very RATIONAL and analytical way of running the world.
The people that run the world are very rational. And isolating people is very rational. Scary. But rational.

[rockabilly]

With everything going on in the world , a persons sexual orientation or identity should not be big issues.

In the big picture who a person chooses to have sex w/ is nobody elses business.

It's hard enough to find someone that you not only are attracted to but who you connect w/ on a deeper level and then "worry" about what your family or friends or what society has to say about the relationship ... FUCK them if they don't understand , just let it go and be w/ who makes you happy.

[rockabilly]

Oh and procreation .... the world is overpopulated anyway.

With no natural predators and medical advances the human race is too abundant.

Natural selection has been skewed.

[tslvrnyc]

To be perfectly honest, there's not one way, but many webs of hate and denial present around you girls:

- The guys who are truly gay, but ashamed, or worse, are in denial of it, and only with tgirls as a sort of "that's ok" kind of justification going on (cock bandits, vast majority of Johns, IMO)

- The guys who are bi, but ashamed, or worse, are in denial of it, and only with tgirls as a sort of "that's ok" kind of justification going on. Those guys typically have further confusion since they like pussy too.

- The guys who simply get a kick of how "wrong" it is, in the way people get their rocks off on digressive sexual things, say in the way a GG might get her rocks off on anal sex, or a couple who are cheating on their boyfriend and girlfriend might get their rocks off on how "so wrong, but so right" their affair is. I'd imagine these guys would be the rare, "only tops" that are around.

- The guys who have a trans nature to themselves, who somehow (I can't even understand the way it works, but it's true) manifest it in being around you girls. But, that's gender identity, not sexual orientation, so further confusion/denial may be present if they're into guys and don't want to accept that, either.

And, to top it all, any man who is drawn to femininity, even if they are completely straight, will be attracted to some tgirls who have transitioned well, since they are being feminine, just like bio girls are. They're wired to be drawn to your appearance, smell, curves, etc - just like any other woman. I know most people don't like to admit this, but YES, guys who even turn down tgirls and wouldn't be with a trans woman in their life, are still attracted to you. And, that'll f*ck with their minds if they ever bump into you and find out later, or hell, even just turn on Maury and pick the wrong girl in the lineup.

It is what it is, and will be for this generation, and the next. I think attitudes will change once transitioning at puberty becomes the norm, given that virtually all girls will simply look like ggirls, making the reality true and apparent. But, we're not there yet...

That's pretty good. I think also some guys are attracted to the exaggerated femininity as well.

[TSPornFan]

And, to top it all, any man who is drawn to femininity, even if they are completely straight, will be attracted to some tgirls who have transitioned well, since they are being feminine, just like bio girls are. They're wired to be drawn to your appearance, smell, curves, etc - just like any other woman. I know most people don't like to admit this, but YES, guys who even turn down tgirls and wouldn't be with a trans woman in their life, are still attracted to you. And, that'll f*ck with their minds if they ever bump into you and find out later, or hell, even just turn on Maury and pick the wrong girl in the lineup.

It is what it is, and will be for this generation, and the next. I think attitudes will change once transitioning at puberty becomes the norm, given that virtually all girls will simply look like ggirls, making the reality true and apparent. But, we're not there yet...


No, it's not!


Every guy has that"does this mean I am gay" moment. Whether it's walking up on someone with long pretty hair, only to see it's just a man who uses good hair products, or seeing someone running with tan legs and shorts shorts in the distance, only upon closer inspection to see it was a guy who chose to run in something the length of his boxers.


Every man is attracted to a hot TS woman, the same as they would be if she was a GG. When they find out that she indeed used to be a man, they walk away questioning their manhood. Some choose to investigate further, and others allow their sheer terror to prevent them from stepping forward. Regardless, we all get wood when we see them. That is why when guys get fooled and find out, they flip the fuck out. It isn't so much the fact that they were lied to, as it is they are furious that their body/mind betrayed them, and someone has to be for it.

I went through the range of emotions during my first encounter with the TS world. I was drawn in over some pictures. Me being the kind of person who has to see how deep the rabbit hole goes, I looked further. Fast forward to now. I was outed by my ex girlfriend, trying to get back at me for breaking up with her. It didn't have the effect she thought it would. She actually did me a huge favor. Since then I haven't actually dated a TS, but I do have quite a few TS friends now.

That's part of a problem. There are not a lot of tranny chasers like us who ONLY like the passable girls who look and act like GG Women.

Most tranny chasers are homosexuals. Just look at most American Tranny Porn. We see a lot of manly transsexuals in demand. These types of tranny chasers may as well go find a cross dresser.

[Jericho]

Old sayings don't get old without a reason.
The truth will set you free.

[fred41]

I’m not quite sure exactly where phobun’s coming from but it’s certainly not the same place as most of the rest of us. But all the evidence does seem to point in one direction… (BTW he's been quiet recently...)

And there are the other posters who get aggressive when anyone raises issues of sexuality in that they call everyone faggots and threaten to go around and punch a guy’s lights out just because he pointed out that they’re into something that isn’t exactly 100% str8. It’s as if they’re saying “If I can beat the living shit out of you that’s proof that I’m a real man and not gay!” Haha!

And then there’s another one who says he won’t go near a tranny and they’re all mentally ill, and yet he’s been posting here for years. Even funnier.

I guess it takes all sorts...

Yup...a person can be completely struck blind when looking into the mirror. They may fit a psychological profile to an absolute T...but still lash out either in denial ... or bewilderment. Hey , to each his own...if people want to live in denial...that's fine, but please do it quietly.

...and as far as internet tough guys...the toughest bad asses I know have enough self-confidence where they rarely ever threaten anyone...unless it's part of their job.

There are also a few guys on this site who really are (knowingly) absolute flaming queens...but they amuse themselves by posting on this site as somewhat macho personas ..but give themselves away by their accumulated posts and the subject matter therein. Sometimes these guys are very funny though...either intentionally or not...lol.

[jjmalone3000]

most depressing this is. focus on the fun.

[goku]

That's part of a problem. There are not a lot of tranny chasers like us who ONLY like the passable girls who look and act like GG Women.

Most tranny chasers are homosexuals. Just look at most American Tranny Porn. We see a lot of manly transsexuals in demand. These types of tranny chasers may as well go find a cross dresser.


I found out a lot of these guys on HA were into men, when I popped up on cam to chat with the girls. Next thing I know guys are asking to see my dick. lol

[rockabilly]

Are you sure they were talking to you goku?

[Gthoma2a]

Odd that this is coming up, I just looked at my profile a while ago and realized that the people who have looked at it appear to be dudes from the names. That shit is going private now.

[goku]

Are you sure they were talking to you goku?


lol............yeah!


It was private messages!

[goku]

Odd that this is coming up, I just looked at my profile a while ago and realized that the people who have looked at it appear to be dudes from the names. That shit is going private now.



not always the case. Sometimes people are trying to get to your old posts by looking under your profile. Although they could be looking for your pictures......lol

[Gthoma2a]

Private just to be safe. haha

[rockabilly]

lol............yeah!


It was private messages!

LMAO

Damn

http://www.hiphopstan.com/forum/images/smilies/dammm.gif

[rockabilly]

not always the case. Sometimes people are trying to get to your old posts by looking under your profile. Although they could be looking for your pictures......lol

Or in goku's case his penis. smh

[goku]

LMAO

Damn


lol, I know right?

I mean, I don't care if you are gay. I just don't think the TS forum is a place for you to be combing for some man-dick. Hey, whatever floats their boat.

[Helvis2012]

Yeah...there's a lot them.

[traLika]

Odd that this is coming up, I just looked at my profile a while ago and realized that the people who have looked at it appear to be dudes from the names. That shit is going private now.


lol - that's funny! A lot of people check posters out just to see who they are. It doesn't mean a dick is gonna come out of the monitor and go up your ass! You've got nothing to worry about. Unless you're a closet... ;)

[rockabilly]

lol - that's funny! A lot of people check posters out just to see who they are. It doesn't mean a dick is gonna come out of the monitor and go up your ass! You've got nothing to worry about. Unless you're a closet... ;)

Maybe he has a 3D monitor?

"It's coming right at me!!!"

[giovanni_hotel]

That's why I'm reluctant to post a dick pic on HA. Not bragging, but random, unsolicited attention from other MEN is not my agenda.;)

[Gthoma2a]

My thing is since there are apparently legitimately ones out there trying to talk to other guys who like t-girls, I put it private and the problem should go away. They can still see my posts, but that is all they need IMO. I don't need the same shit that happened to my myspace. I didn't list sexual preference since I don't really classify my love of t-girls. I had every gay guy who I ever worked with or went to any school with's friend requests and weird messages (some with stupid pics and as the saying goes, "what is seen can't be unseen").

[sunairco]

It's probably more benign then you think. Somebody posts something off the wall or posts a very interspective comment, I might check out the profile just to see what the person is about. Someone PM's me or b4 I PM someone, likewise. IRL, it's only natual that you try to find something out about a person or some common ground before engaging them or attempting to understand their position.

[Gthoma2a]

Yeah, I am sure. I am just really cautious about that stuff. I may start a thread for people to disclose general profile type info started with mine. I know it isn't weird stuff for most, but I don't want to ever fall victim to bad experiences with another website... It went so far in the past that one guy had a girl I was going to see ask me questions for him... As for my posts, they are there to be commented on and I am fine with any discussions that follow them. I will make profile info public again, not a huge deal I suppose.

[traLika]

Yeah, nothing to worry about...