Do any of you guys ever feel guilty for the way you objectify transgendered women?

[www.tglovers.com]

We're all adults here and I realize this is an adult oriented site. But I have to admit that I am sometimes disturb by the objectification and misogyny. I have yet to see a guy on here show any level of humanity or respect for transgendered women.

Sex is such a small part of who transgendered woman are but yet it seems to be the focus of every post. Who has the biggest ass, who has the best cock, etc...etc... I've even see post where girls who escort are being reviewed like a commodity. Escorts are people....they are not cattle. To see a review of another human being...sickens me. Even more disturbing is the fact that the guys who do it....feel justified.

How would the guys feel if there was a John review site, where girls discussed how a guy stiffed them or wasn't freshly showered before their session? I don't think guys would appreciate it.
As an African American, it reminds of how slaves would be auctioned off. Is this really what we've come to?

YouTube- Do you feel guilty for objectiftying transsexual women - hits a nerve! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXfRp1blVRg)

That being said....I realize the fault does not solely with the guys. I see a lot of girls who objectify themselves and relish in the objectification.

Color me conservative....but I think its sad.

Wish there was more balance.

[rockabilly]

In a word ... yes.

[BellaBellucci]

You're way off base. Transwomen are the epitome of self-respect. Whachutalkinbout Willis?

~BB~

[bat1]

it is what it is....

[TheToon]

If you are talking about any comments posted about pictures posted on this site. Hell no. One thing that needs to be remember here is that every girl posted is selling herself, either through porn, parties or as an escort. Their product is themselves and we are either consumers of that product or potential consumers. They leave themselves open to critque and should not be too surprised if sometimes some people do not like the product they are selling.

I found your line about escorts being reviewed like a commidity pretty laughable to be honest, that's excatly what an escort is. They are selling themselves, how can you not see that, if they don't like that objectivity as you call it, then get out of the game.

[Dino Velvet]

Before I joined this board I was really bad. I didn't know any T-Girls and saw them only as sex objects. After being here and developing several friendships with some of the girls I have learned quite a lot. I've learned that many have similar interests as me as far as movies, music, and other things. I have also learned to respect their unique differences and have compassion for what they must go through.

[daltx_m]

I only rent them as sex objects.

[Solitary Brother]

My answer is:






















No

[www.tglovers.com]

Before I joined this board I was really bad. I didn't know any T-Girls and saw them only as sex objects. After being here and developing several friendships with some of the girls I have learned quite a lot. I've learned that many have similar interests as me as far as movies, music, and other things. I have also learned to respect their unique differences and have compassion for what they must go through.
I'm really happy to hear that you were able to humanize transsexuals and see that we have more to offer than 1 hour for $250.

[TheToon]

I think you are in the wrong place for that. It's not that people don't humanize you, but this is a site that girls use to promote themselves, the vast majority are not here to make new friends, however much we would like to think they are. They are here to increase their popularity.

If there were a site that was purely a meet, talk shit and make new friends for tgirls and guys, I would all up for that, just point me in that direction.

[BellaBellucci]

If you are talking about any comments posted about pictures this site. Hell no. One thing that needs to be remember here is that every girl posted is selling herself, either through porn, parties or as an escort. Their product is themselves and we are either consumers of that product or potential consumers. They leave themselves open to critque and should not be too surprised if sometimes some people do not like the product they are selling.

I found your line about escorts being reviewed like a commidity pretty laughable to be honest, that's excatly what an escort is. They are selling themselves, how can you not see that, if they don't like that objectivity as you call it, then get out of the game.

She said she's just looking for balance. And she admitted that many girls don't make that easy to achieve. But just because a girl is in the sex business, that doesn't mean she should be disrespected, although she also needs to respect herself to demand respect from others. Her occupation is no excuse for anyone to degrade her unless they've paid for that privilege. Otherwise, when she's off the clock, she's still a person and should be treated as such.

I find it funny how so many people have a hard time grasping this concept when it comes to transwomen. They know they could never treat a GG porn star, stripper, or escort with disrespect because she'd just get up and leave or call in the bouncer, but when it comes to TS's, all bets are off. I'd guess they feel that we're just a bunch of horny men in skirts with male sex drives who like, or even yearn for objectification 24/7 and not just on the set or in a call with a client.

And if sex is a natural, enjoyable, sensual and arguably beautiful process, then what's everyone's obsession with making it degrading? I'm sorry, but that's so IMlive circa 2002 (i.e. look what I can shove up my pussy?)!

~BB~

[www.tglovers.com]

Before I joined this board I was really bad. I didn't know any T-Girls and saw them only as sex objects. After being here and developing several friendships with some of the girls I have learned quite a lot. I've learned that many have similar interests as me as far as movies, music, and other things. I have also learned to respect their unique differences and have compassion for what they must go through.


I think you are in the wrong place for that. It's not that people don't humanize you, but this is a site that girls use to promote themselves, the vast majority are not here to make new friends, however much we would like to think they are. They are here to increase their popularity.

If there were a site that was purely a meet, talk shit and make new friends for tgirls and guys, I would all up for that, just point me in that direction.
pointing you in the direction of www.tglovers.com

[TheToon]

She said she's just looking for balance. And she admitted that many girls don't make that easy to achieve. But just because a girl is in the sex business, that doesn't mean she should be disrespected, although she also needs to respect herself to demand respect from others. Her occupation is no excuse for anyone to degrade her unless they've paid for that privilege. Otherwise, when she's off the clock, she's still a person and should be treated as such.

I find it funny how so many people have a hard time grasping this concept when it comes to transwomen. They know they could never treat a GG porn star, stripper, or escort with disrespect because she'd just get up and leave or call in the bouncer, but when it comes to TS's, all bets are off. I'd guess they feel that we're just a bunch of horny men in skirts with male sex drives who like, or even yearn for objectification 24/7 and not just on the set or in a call with a client.

If sex is a natural, enjoyable, sensual and arguably beautiful process, then what's everyone's obsession with making it degrading? I'm sorry, but that's so IMlive circa 2002 (i.e. look what I can shove up my pussy?)!

~BB~

I'm trying to understand your point are you saying that:

People are disrespectful if they critque girls who post pictures of themselves selling web sites, etc. or reviewing escorts they sent a lot of money on ?

and

People here wouldn't treat GG's doing the same thing, the same way ?

[Legend]

I'm just gonna give a simple no because i know how i feel about transgender women but i really cannot get into it because would make me sound self righteous and a hyprocrite because i post on a porn message board.

[www.tglovers.com]

She said she's just looking for balance. And she admitted that many girls don't make that easy to achieve. But just because a girl is in the sex business, that doesn't mean she should be disrespected, although she also needs to respect herself to demand respect from others. Her occupation is no excuse for anyone to degrade her unless they've paid for that privilege. Otherwise, when she's off the clock, she's still a person and should be treated as such.

I find it funny how so many people have a hard time grasping this concept when it comes to transwomen. They know they could never treat a GG porn star, stripper, or escort with disrespect because she'd just get up and leave or call in the bouncer, but when it comes to TS's, all bets are off. I'd guess they feel that we're just a bunch of horny men in skirts with male sex drives who like, or even yearn for objectification 24/7 and not just on the set or in a call with a client.

And if sex is a natural, enjoyable, sensual and arguably beautiful process, then what's everyone's obsession with making it degrading? I'm sorry, but that's so IMlive circa 2002 (i.e. look what I can shove up my pussy?)!

~BB~
Amen!!!!!! :Bowdown::Bowdown::Bowdown::Bowdown::Bowdown::Bowd own::Bowdown::Bowdown::Bowdown::Bowdown::Bowdown:: Bowdown:

[BellaBellucci]

I'm trying to understand your point are you saying that:

People are disrespectful if they critque girls who post pictures of themselves selling web sites, etc. or reviewing escorts they sent a lot of money on ?

and

People here wouldn't treat GG's doing the same thing, the same way ?

I'm saying the second part, yes, but I actually have no problem at all with girls being critiqued. In fact, I think it's necessary for the industry to function. But I also think that constructive criticism is a lost art.

~BB~

[TSPornFan]

You tgirls are also having sex with us. So we can see it as the other way around as well.

[sdman]

No I don't were all adults.

[Instrumental]

I don't think the way I objectify (transgendered) women is bad so no. I pretty much follow the golden rule when talking with people (i.e. I show them the same kindness and level of respect they show me) but when it comes to picture threads sure I gawk at and objectify the women that are posted in pictures. I don't think that's an inherently bad thing either as the whole point of the pictures is to get the viewer to admire the people who are being shot and quite frankly if I had such photographs of myself posted I'd be flattered to receive the complements. Haven't been with an escort or particularly paid attention to people who "review" them so I can't really comment to in depth. That being said I think it's possible to both review the service an escort provides and be humane at the same time. Or at least objective about it without being cruel. *shrug* (And also, escorts providing reviews of Johns would be a hilarious read).

[tsbrenda]

guys or reviewed
ITS CALLED DATECHECK
and there or other sites and services as well

[Norma]

I'm just gonna give a simple no because i know how i feel about transgender women but i really cannot get into it because would make me sound self righteous and a hyprocrite because i post on a porn message board.

Exactly :Bowdown:

If a guy frequents a forum like this, he is GENERALLY looked down upon by the girls (and I'm not going to look for the threads) as a chaser or not sensitive to girls issues. However some girls interact with the guys when certain subjects come up, and that makes the forum more than JUST a porn forum.

Do the girls come here to actually address transgender issues or is it just a promotional venue? A bit of both, IMO. Depending on the girl.

So, are the girls going to be objectified by SOME of the guys? Yes

Are the girls going to be respected by the other guys? Yes

Should the guys feel guilty about objectifying a girl? Yes, it is demeaning if her goal is to express herself in a non porn/promotional manner. If she participates in a serious thread, and a promoter/website guy or herself posts nude pictures of her with the obvious end of making money, getting feedback or for kicks, then all the rules are gone and it is anything goes, the 'i'd hit it emoticon' guys will have a field day with those pictures.

Equally, she should feel guilty about objectifying a guy, if she thinks/insists/and vehemently persists a guy is a chaser/trick , when he is genuinely interested in long term aspects of a relationship, or intellectual interaction with a girl. It IS (if girls want to accept or not) demeaning, for a guy to be called a chaser/trick, when he is NOT.

[Helvis2012]

Not in the least.

[giovanni_hotel]

Only a TG worries about being sexually objectified. Men objectify GGs every second of every damn day, but somehow it's unacceptable when it happens to a T???

'Objectification' doesn't have to mean disrespectful, degrading or dehumanizing, just an acknowledgement that a sexxy-ass tgirl is known to cause involuntary erections in those men who find them to be some of those most beautiful women on the planet.

People get too sensitive around here. Take the compliment that a dude thinks you're hott and stop trying to interpret the deeper meaning behind why he 'likes' you sexually.

[goku]

I have never taken an escort, so I tend not to look at them as escorts, and more as entertainers. I also realize that they are people, which is why I try not to objectify them too much. I have made my comments, but I usually only comment when it's positive.


Some of us have to understand that these are girls with feelings. So when you write negatively, or make mean comments about them, it hurts them. I know this for a fact, as one of my friends was hurt on a forum like this, when someone made a negative remark about her appearance. It was at that moment that my eyes were opened.


These days I get on here mainly to kick it with some of the personalities this board presents. Today Paris opened a video chat, and I talked at length with Liberty. I came to find out she is a rather amazing girl. She is intelligent, has goals, and I even got to meet her friend.

There is another girl that I chat with almost every day. She is sweet and kind, and as gentle as they come. We don't talk about sex, we just kick it back and forth, bsing about whatever topic comes up for the day.

What started out as a simple interest in the unknown has morphed into some pretty good conversation, getting towards friendships.

[Jericho]

Only a TG worries about being sexually objectified. Men objectify GGs every second of every damn day, but somehow it's unacceptable when it happens to a T???

'Objectification' doesn't have to mean disrespectful, degrading or dehumanizing, just an acknowledgement that a sexxy-ass tgirl is known to cause involuntary erections in those men who find them to be some of those most beautiful women on the planet.

People get too sensitive around here. Take the compliment that a dude thinks you're hott and stop trying to interpret the deeper meaning behind why he 'likes' you sexually.

Damn you, coming here talking sense! :Bowdown:

[Jericho]

We're all adults here and I realize this is an adult oriented site.







Rilly?
I don't think you do!


But I have to admit that I am sometimes disturb by the objectification and misogyny. I have yet to see a guy on here show any level of humanity or respect for transgendered women.


You want to see objectification and misogyny, go to a straight(for want of a better word) porn board. You'll see levels of objectification and misogyny that'll make you bleed!



Sex is such a small part of who transgendered woman are but yet it seems to be the focus of every post. Who has the biggest ass, who has the best cock, etc...etc...


What do you want to talk about, shopping, shoe size, the unbearable lightness of being...oops, got to go, someone's posted some porn....



That being said....I realize the fault does not solely with the guys.



Gee...Thanks


Wish there are more balance.




You want balance, take yourself out of the equation when you preach.
Either that or buy a scales. :shrug

[traLika]

But I have to admit that I am sometimes disturb by the objectification and misogyny. I have yet to see a guy on here show any level of humanity or respect for transgendered women.



Sure, there's a lot of objectification going on around here. But I'm frankly amazed that you have "yet to see a guy on here show any level of humanity or respect for transgendered women". You're either not reading many threads in the General Discussion forum or your view is way too polarised and subjective. There's a lot of humanity and respect mixed in with all the other stuff and you don't have to dig too far to find it...

[BellaBellucci]

Exactly :Bowdown:

If a guy frequents a forum like this, he is GENERALLY looked down upon by the girls (and I'm not going to look for the threads) as a chaser or not sensitive to girls issues.

Just for the record, I've never used the word 'chaser' to describe any of the guys here or ever looked down on them. I actually applaud their desire to get to know us better, which is how they eventually end up seeing us less as sex objects and more as sexy women (i.e. people).

But at the same time I also think respect begets respect, so your mileage may vary us girls as ours does with you. Conflict happens when two people disagree, and while name calling isn't helpful, it's not usually the true cause.

~BB~

[BellaBellucci]

You want to see objectification and misogyny, go to a straight(for want of a better word) porn board. You'll see levels of objectification and misogyny that'll make you bleed!

And that's so incredibly wrong too, but in our case you're dealing with an already largely-marginalized minority group whose members very often get into porn as a matter of either survival or transition. And sure, GGs in porn take a lot of shit too, and even more so on message boards because it's 'teh interweb,' but I think a lot of those guys are just internet toughguys. Even still, TS women are more vulnerable to these types of behaviors because there are fewer people willing to protect us and a dangerous, widely-held perception that all transwomen are hyper-promiscuous.


Sure, there's a lot of objectification going on around here. But I'm frankly amazed that you have "yet to see a guy on here show any level of humanity or respect for transgendered women". You're either not reading many threads in the General Discussion forum or your view is way too polarised and subjective. There's a lot of humanity and respect mixed in with all the other stuff and you don't have to dig too far to find it...

Yeah, what is up with that? Even I balked at that one.

~BB~

[jamiecoxxdotcom]

You know, it's a two way street... I advertise as a sexual devise more or less and feel that if I'm not being objectified than I am not doing my job. On the other side of the coin the johns I see understand that they are merely a means for me to pay my bills and keep a roof over my head. Both parties understand each others rolls in the this scenario. You want to be seen as a fully realized human being... well shit, that's what friends and family are for. I've never been treated with disrespect from any of my clients or web site customers because the 'understanding' is made very clear right from the get go. Everybody has a good time and everybody gets what they want from one another. When I don't feel like being ogled by clients or fans and just want a day off... I turn off the computer or let the emails pile up unchecked for a day or two. It's just that simple.

[youshouldtrythislol]

I don't think I objectify the girls on this site. That said, I don't view this as a 'porn site', I think of it more as a site just to meet people and (attempt) to have conversations about different topics. When I post, I try not to post anything negative about or towards anyone. I think arguing on the internet is pointless. Through this site, I have had the oppertunity to speak to some really nice and intellegent young ladies. There are people who have opinions I don't agree with on here, but it is their right to have those opinions. I understand that some girls only come here to promote their businesses, be it escorting or modeling sites and whatnot, and that is fine. I just wish some of the ladies wouldn't look down on all the guys here and just assume we are all 'chasers' and only want sex. Sure, there are some of those types here, but not all of the people who post here are after that. I think the objectifying can go both ways on this site, and I think it is pointless.

[TsVanessa69]

We're all adults here and I realize this is an adult oriented site. But I have to admit that I am sometimes disturb by the objectification and misogyny. I have yet to see a guy on here show any level of humanity or respect for transgendered women.



Sex is such a small part of who transgendered woman are but yet it seems to be the focus of every post. Who has the biggest ass, who has the best cock, etc...etc... I've even see post where girls who escort are being reviewed like a commodity. Escorts are people....they are not cattle. To see a review of another human being...sickens me. Even more disturbing is the fact that the guys who do it....feel justified.


How would the guys feel if there was a John review site, where girls discussed how a guy stiffed them or wasn't freshly showered before their session? I don't think guys would appreciate it.
As an African American, it reminds of how slaves would be auctioned off. Is this really what we've come to?


That being said....I realize the fault does not solely with the guys. I see a lot of girls who objectify themselves and relish in the objectification.


Color me conservative....but I think its sad.


Wish there are more balance.

Which is why girls should not be embarressed because they escort.
these men dont want a person, they want a sex toy.

[Ryz]

I dont want a sex toy :(

[www.tglovers.com]

I dont want a sex toy :(
What do you want?

[TsVanessa69]

I dont want a sex toy :(
Some men don't, but clearly on THIS site, far and few. I bet over half the men who post on here have NEVER dealt with a ts on any level in real life.
Some of the bullshit these dudes post here make me glad I charge for my time and that I should NOT stop any time soon!

[Ryz]

What do you want?

A relationship.

[www.tglovers.com]

Some men don't, but clearly on THIS site, far and few. I bet over half the men who post on here have NEVER dealt with a ts on any level in real life.
Some of the bullshit these dudes post here make me glad I charge for my time and that I should NOT stop any time soon!
I hear so many guys complain about how jaded transsexuals are but when I com to this site....its very easy to see why transsexuals are jaded. From what I've been able to surmise is that most guys on this site (with a few exceptions) see transsexuals as a fetish and not as actual people. I for one think its sad. Maybe I just expect too much or maybe I'm just a prude.

That being said: Kudos to you for at least making sure you are being compensated for being treated like and object.

[www.tglovers.com]

A relationship.
Do you think this site is conducive to the facilitation of a meaningful relationship? Do you think the women who frequent this site are really looking for a relationship?

[TsVanessa69]

A relationship.
That is sweet. Remember after we log off this site, we go to our real lives, where we live as woman and do normal things not related to our cock length, or load size!

[www.tglovers.com]

That is sweet. Remember after we log off this site, we go to our real lives, where we live as woman and do normal things not related to our cock length, or load size!
Amen! Amen!

[tsbrenda]

how are you going to have a relationship with someone who fantasy/dreams is to be the most desired whore on the planet?

[TsVanessa69]

Do you think this site is conducive to the facilitation of a meaningful relationship? Do you think the women who frequent this site are really looking for a relationship?
I dont think most guys on here have basic conversation skills to even carry on a non sexual conversation with a ts.

I see ts as a label put on us by society and those who use us to make money for themselves because they promote us as a fetish for their financial gain.

[arnie666]

We're all adults here and I realize this is an adult oriented site. But I have to admit that I am sometimes disturb by the objectification and misogyny. I have yet to see a guy on here show any level of humanity or respect for transgendered women.



Sex is such a small part of who transgendered woman are but yet it seems to be the focus of every post. Who has the biggest ass, who has the best cock, etc...etc... I've even see post where girls who escort are being reviewed like a commodity. Escorts are people....they are not cattle. To see a review of another human being...sickens me. Even more disturbing is the fact that the guys who do it....feel justified.


How would the guys feel if there was a John review site, where girls discussed how a guy stiffed them or wasn't freshly showered before their session? I don't think guys would appreciate it.
As an African American, it reminds of how slaves would be auctioned off. Is this really what we've come to?


That being said....I realize the fault does not solely with the guys. I see a lot of girls who objectify themselves and relish in the objectification.


Color me conservative....but I think its sad.


Wish there are more balance.


Well I for one would love to have a site for girls to write about some of the punters they see. Iam sure there would be some entertaining stories. And why shouldn't girls rate the men if they want? It might actually help both parties. The men take more care over their personal admin and their attitude, which means a better more fragrant time for girls, and the men might get a better time ,if a girl isn't choking back her own vomit at the site of clingions in your butt crack and an unwashed cock.

But apart from this,no one is putting a gun to their head to sell their arse. If you do a job which involves objectifying yourself ,of course others will objectify you. Female escorts get exactly the same treatment. While you do this , all you are is a pretty fuck hole. If you want men and women to not treat you like the cum guzzling prostitute or porn star you are, get a job in civvy street.That is probably more boring and pays much less.

People sterotype me because of my job,I have to listen to the moans because of the alleged unfairness of one of my collegues or what someone had read in the media. It goes in one ear and out the other. And I get paid much less than a porn star or probably quite a few top class whores gets, and I deal with human turds all day.

[TsVanessa69]

how are you going to have a relationship with someone who fantasy/dreams is to be the most desired whore on the planet?
you are in no position to talk. Using a fake online id as a ts, when we all know you are NOT a ts.

[Ryz]

Do you think this site is conducive to the facilitation of a meaningful relationship? Do you think the women who frequent this site are really looking for a relationship?

lol I'm not looking for a woman off here. I come on HA to waste time
I've already been in a long term relationship with a ts, but if I do ever get into another one with a ts, I'll be labeled a trannychaser lool

[tsbrenda]

TSVANESSA69 HAS BEEN VOTED BY HUNGANGELS TO BE MOST RESEMBLANCE TO SHREK


warning A picture is coming



GUYS ON HERE WANT SHEMALE DICK AND TSVANESSA69 HAS A DISEASED ONE


LOL LOL LOL lol lol lol

[Ryz]

Do you think this site is conducive to the facilitation of a meaningful relationship? Do you think the women who frequent this site are really looking for a relationship?


how are you going to have a relationship with someone who fantasy/dreams is to be the most desired whore on the planet?

Oh wow....

[www.tglovers.com]

lol I'm not looking for a woman off here. I come on HA to waste time
I've already been in a long term relationship with a ts, but if I do ever get into another one with a ts, I'll be labeled a trannychaser lool
It all depends on who you get in a relationship with. I think a mature transsexual is really secure within herself so if you've been with another transsexual...it won't be an issue.

[Ryz]

That is sweet. Remember after we log off this site, we go to our real lives, where we live as woman and do normal things not related to our cock length, or load size!

Lol obviously

[BellaBellucci]

I dont think most guys on here have basic conversation skills to even carry on a non sexual conversation with a ts.

I see ts as a label put on us by society and those who use us to make money for themselves because they promote us as a fetish for their financial gain.

Because we can't be sexy unless we're taboo, right? :Bowdown:

But why is 'TS' in your screen name? :lol:

~BB~

[alyssaluxor]

That is sweet. Remember after we log off this site, we go to our real lives, where we live as woman and do normal things not related to our cock length, or load size!


i highly concur ;)

[www.tglovers.com]

Well I for one would love to have a site for girls to write about some of the punters they see. Iam sure there would be some entertaining stories. And why shouldn't girls rate the men if they want? It might actually help both parties. The men take more care over their personal admin and their attitude, which means a better more fragrant time for girls, and the men might get a better time ,if a girl isn't choking back her own vomit at the site of clingions in your butt crack and an unwashed cock.

But apart from this,no one is putting a gun to their head to sell their arse. If you do a job which involves objectifying yourself ,of course others will objectify you. Female escorts get exactly the same treatment. While you do this , all you are is a pretty fuck hole. If you want men and women to not treat you like the cum guzzling prostitute or porn star you are, get a job in civvy street.That is probably more boring and pays much less.

People sterotype me because of my job,I have to listen to the moans because of the alleged unfairness of one of my collegues or what someone had read in the media. It goes in one ear and out the other. And I get paid much less than a porn star or probably quite a few top class whores gets, and I deal with human turds all day.

That is my issue. Guys seem to think as long as there's a dollar exchanged...there is no damage. Sleeping with someone you have no attraction to is a hard job. I wouldn't want to do it. So I feel they should be compensated greatly.

But at the end of the day money only buys stuff. What about the spirit that is being diminished?

[BellaBellucci]

TSVANESSA69 HAS BEEN VOTED BY HUNGANGELS TO BE MOST RESEMBLANCE TO SHREK


warning A picture is coming



GUYS ON HERE WANT SHEMALE DICK AND TSVANESSA69 HAS A DISEASED ONE


LOL LOL LOL lol lol lol

Do you ever stop? :-?

~BB~

[MDM23]

Fact is most guys just want to fuck you and leave. Can't be bothered with all the bullshit drama that most (not all) trannies like to surround themselves in.

[www.tglovers.com]

Fact is most guys just want to fuck you and leave. Can't be bothered with all the bullshit drama that most (not all) trannies like to surround themselves in.
What kind of stuff would that be? I'm genuinely curious.

[giovanni_hotel]

We're all adults here and I realize this is an adult oriented site. But I have to admit that I am sometimes disturb by the objectification and misogyny. I have yet to see a guy on here show any level of humanity or respect for transgendered women.





Sure, there's a lot of objectification going on around here. But I'm frankly amazed that you have "yet to see a guy on here show any level of humanity or respect for transgendered women". You're either not reading many threads in the General Discussion forum or your view is way too polarised and subjective. There's a lot of humanity and respect mixed in with all the other stuff and you don't have to dig too far to find it...

+1 traLika!!!

That bolded generalized, exaggerated statement is what I to call the 'drama' many girls love to surround themselves.


How can she criticize the men on this board when she obviously hasn't read most of the comments posted in this thread of guys who try to DEFEND the girls from some of the outrageous nonsense posted on HA??

First and foremost, this is a PORN forum, that at times degenerates into a social networking board. Sure we come here to look at the pics, but really it's the interaction with the girls that I believe keeps many of us coming back so often.

[TsVanessa69]

Do you ever stop? :-?

~BB~
People who talk shit about me are proven mental cases, haters and disease carriers, so who cares!

a man using a name tsbrenda online and obsessed with tranny dick doesnt seem all that mentally stabled to me:wiggle:

[TsVanessa69]

Fact is most guys just want to fuck you and leave. Can't be bothered with all the bullshit drama that most (not all) trannies like to surround themselves in.
They just want to fuck and leave, you are right.
So pay, fuck and leave.
And how do you know what a girl surrounds herself with. You are a trick, its none of your business

[www.tglovers.com]

+1 traLika!!!

That bolded generalized, exaggerated statement is what I to call the 'drama' many girls love to surround themselves.


How can she criticize the men on this board when she obviously hasn't read most of the comments posted in this thread of guys who try to DEFEND the girls from some of the outrageous nonsense posted on HA??

First and foremost, this is a PORN forum, that at times degenerates into a social networking board. Sure we come here to look at the pics, but really it's the interaction with the girls that I believe keeps many of us coming back so often.
I know its a porn board and I'm sure not all guys on this board are pigs...but they certainly play in the pen.

[GrimFusion]

I have yet to see a guy on here show any level of humanity or respect for transgendered women.
You haven't read through a lot of my posts, then.


Sex is such a small part of who transgendered woman are but yet it seems to be the focus of every post.
I agree, and I sort of miss the forum back in the day when a good quarter of the new topics were discussion posts.


Who has the biggest ass, who has the best cock, etc...etc... I've even see post where girls who escort are being reviewed like a commodity. Escorts are people....they are not cattle. To see a review of another human being...sickens me. Even more disturbing is the fact that the guys who do it....feel justified.
You have a point, but I do too. Many (if not most) of the transgendered posters around here are also escorts. I mean, honestly; guys who come here looking for a long-term transsexual girlfriend have been a little mislead. While I agree that all of the "biggest cock" and "biggest tits" threads are a little insulting, obviously it's not that big a deal if the ladies are still around. I think you're over-reacting a little, but the forum would benefit if the junk threads ceased a bit.


How would the guys feel if there was a John review site, where girls discussed how a guy stiffed them or wasn't freshly showered before their session? I don't think guys would appreciate it. As an African American, it reminds of how slaves would be auctioned off. Is this really what we've come to?
I really wouldn't care, but we're talking about the internet here. That site likely DOES exist. I shrug it off because I'd likely choose to simply refrain any participation on said site. In full measure, the ladies around here have a similar choice and are still hanging around.


That being said....I realize the fault does not solely with the guys. I see a lot of girls who objectify themselves and relish in the objectification.
You sure do. That's because they like money.


Color me conservative....but I think its sad.
How could you be considered a conservative when it's obvious you're a huge liberal. I mean, here you are pouring your heart out for people you've likely barely held conversation with. That's so cute... and psycho.


Wish there are more balance.
Me too, but things change. I mean, things have changed.

[TheToon]

Wow this thread has progressed a lot since I logged off last night. Good to see, I love the threads with pics of pretty girls, but threads with deep discussions interest me way more.

Anyway read some very angry girls posting here, and a lot of generalising going on. I'm sure there are more than a few guys who come here just for a little tug at the pretty girls, or have purely a sexual interest in transgendered ladies.

But I don't think I'm alone in being someone here that has zero interest in escort (would never use there services), is very open to a relationship with a Tgirl and although there is obviously a strong sexual attraction, sex is not all I am looking for.

Men like me consider transgendered girls as female, purely not sexual fetish objects, and wouldn't dream of treating them in any different way to genetic girls.

I only discovered this forum recently, so I'm fairly new here, and I love it, it's great to be able to chat to tgirls, that never cross my path in my life outside the internet. I do think though that the point someone made earlier about the way girls look down on forum posters here, is very pertinent.

I also think a lot of girls are using their experience with men they have met during escorting as a way of generalising what all men who are attracted to transsexuals are. That's simply not the case, it's a shame that that message doesn't seem to get across.

[Tepres]

Do any of you guys ever feel guilty for the way you objectify transgendered women?

No........

[ARMANIXXX]

We're all adults here and I realize this is an adult oriented site. But I have to admit that I am sometimes disturb by the objectification and misogyny. I have yet to see a guy on here show any level of humanity or respect for transgendered women.

Sex is such a small part of who transgendered woman are but yet it seems to be the focus of every post. Who has the biggest ass, who has the best cock, etc...etc... I've even see post where girls who escort are being reviewed like a commodity. Escorts are people....they are not cattle. To see a review of another human being...sickens me. Even more disturbing is the fact that the guys who do it....feel justified.

How would the guys feel if there was a John review site, where girls discussed how a guy stiffed them or wasn't freshly showered before their session? I don't think guys would appreciate it.
As an African American, it reminds of how slaves would be auctioned off. Is this really what we've come to?

That being said....I realize the fault does not solely with the guys. I see a lot of girls who objectify themselves and relish in the objectification.

Color me conservative....but I think its sad.

Wish there are more balance.




You can't come to a porn site then get bent about there being too much sex talk.

That's silly to come here with that.

[GrimFusion]

I dont think most guys on here have basic conversation skills to even carry on a non sexual conversation with a ts.

I see ts as a label put on us by society and those who use us to make money for themselves because they promote us as a fetish for their financial gain.

Whatever. Look, if you want to hold up the shield of social ineptitude as a defense mechanism, be my guest. I'm not going to waste time by saying "some of us actually can hold a regular conversation" as it equates to a closet racist saying shit like "I have lots of black friends".

Most of us can hold a conversation, and talking to you is no different. Unfortunately, a lot of the guys around here let their raging boners type for them. "Hunt and poke", per se. That doesn't mean we're all a bunch of drooling neanderthals. Perhaps it's just that the priorities are a bit fumbled.

Besides, you act as if you'd somehow enjoy interacting with us on some sort of intellectual level. Last I checked, you were here for the TG on TG drama and to advertise. If one of us were to shoot you a PM filled with conversation about coffee preference and the disdain for all things Ikea, what good would it do? You'd likely view it as creepy and random.

[TsVanessa69]

Whatever. Look, if you want to hold up the shield of social ineptitude as a defense mechanism, be my guest. I'm not going to waste time by saying "some of us actually can hold a regular conversation" as it equates to a closet racist saying shit like "I have lots of black friends".

Most of us can hold a conversation, and talking to you is no different. Unfortunately, a lot of the guys around here let their raging boners type for them. "Hunt and poke", per se. That doesn't mean we're all a bunch of drooling neanderthals. Perhaps it's just that the priorities are a bit fumbled.

Besides, you act as if you'd somehow enjoy interacting with us on some sort of intellectual level. Last I checked, you were here for the TG on TG drama and to advertise. If one of us were to shoot you a PM filled with conversation about coffee preference and the disdain for all things Ikea, what good would it do? You'd likely view it as creepy and random.
It HA it has nothing to do with my private real life.
And the guys I deal with dont see me or refer to me as a shemale, tranny or none of that bullshit.
We do go out for coffee, talk about real wold NON SEXUAL issues, hold hand, and they dont care if I am prettier than this girl, more hung than that and all the bullshit faggots and bitter burnt up trannys throw on this site.
I use this site to show them how grateful that they are not like the guys on this site and we always get a laugh at outsiders looking in with no clue.:wiggle:

[TsVanessa69]

Because we can't be sexy unless we're taboo, right? :Bowdown:

But why is 'TS' in your screen name? :lol:

~BB~
Ts is on anything business related, thus HA, twitter and my ecort site.
Then at the end of the day, the ts sign is turned off and I go about my real life as Reina, that puerto rican chick.

[TsVanessa69]

Lol obviously
No pa, on a site like this, you can't say obviously. These guys call us at all hours of the day or nite like it wasnt obvious, so you have to treat some of these guys like they had less intelligence than a 5th grader.
I come her to waste time too, nothing about this site has any relevance to my real life but the mimi fights, and that has gotten to to point of a hot mess and keep it movin.

[youshouldtrythislol]

If they call you at all hours, why not get a seperate phone, and turn it off whenever you dont want to deal with it? voice mail is a great invention.

[BellaBellucci]

Ts is on anything business related, thus HA, twitter and my ecort site.
Then at the end of the day, the ts sign is turned off and I go about my real life as Reina, that puerto rican chick.

I like your style, lady. :geek:

~BB~

[traLika]

I know its a porn board and I'm sure not all guys on this board are pigs...but they certainly play in the pen.


Well, if HA, in your opinion, is a pig pen, wtf are you doing here?

You like pointing your finger at guys here, so let's take a look at you...

You've made 79 posts on HA since March 2009 and from what I see they're mostly on your own threads, which often ask blinkered questions like the title of this one. You seem to have had little or no interaction with guys here other than that, and even on this thread you appear to be unwilling to discuss anything with guys who don't agree with you - even though you started the discussion.

And you started it with sweeping, irrational statements like: "I have yet to see a guy on here show any level of humanity or respect for transgendered women."

Seems to me that Nicole, Bella and a whole bunch of other girls are way more qualified to judge guys here than you are...

[princevince89]

We're all adults here and I realize this is an adult oriented site. But I have to admit that I am sometimes disturb by the objectification and misogyny. I have yet to see a guy on here show any level of humanity or respect for transgendered women.

Sex is such a small part of who transgendered woman are but yet it seems to be the focus of every post. Who has the biggest ass, who has the best cock, etc...etc... I've even see post where girls who escort are being reviewed like a commodity. Escorts are people....they are not cattle. To see a review of another human being...sickens me. Even more disturbing is the fact that the guys who do it....feel justified.

How would the guys feel if there was a John review site, where girls discussed how a guy stiffed them or wasn't freshly showered before their session? I don't think guys would appreciate it.
As an African American, it reminds of how slaves would be auctioned off. Is this really what we've come to?

That being said....I realize the fault does not solely with the guys. I see a lot of girls who objectify themselves and relish in the objectification.

Color me conservative....but I think its sad.

Wish there are more balance.



It makes a good point we should listen to what it says

[nsagent]

Its funny and ironic that this thread is as I post this directly above Paris Angelina's thread about not wanting to date but get paid for sex. LOL

[www.tglovers.com]

It makes a good point we should listen to what it says
Thank you for at least being open to take in the information. I think so many guys have been objectifying transsexuals for so long that when they get called on it....they go bonkers.

And as I said before....the fault does not completely lie with the gentleman. Trust me...I know transsexuals have a long way to go.

[giovanni_hotel]

Princevince89, I saw whatcha did!! Not funny.

BTW, for a porn/escort FORUM, there isn't as much disrespect or offensive behavior directed at the girls as you make it seem to be.

It's like at a strip bar, a few guys are gonna make catcalls and proposition every stripper in the joint to come back to his car and give him a BJ, but you would be hard pressed to paint every man there with the same brush.

Because of the fact that some girls are willing to actually interact with the guys prevents many admirers from going over the edge.

[mbf]

I know its a porn board and I'm sure not all guys on this board are pigs...but they certainly play in the pen.
oink

but seriously....all you wanna do is plugging your website. So you don't have much cred to go all moral anyways :)

[www.tglovers.com]

oink

but seriously....all you wanna do is plugging your website. So you don't have much cred to go all moral anyways :)

if you read the post....you would see there was no mention of my website. But since you bring it up:

www.tglovers.com (http://www.tglovers.com)

thanks for the reminder!

BESIDES....I THOUGHT THAT'S WHAT THIS SITE WAS FOR, "PROMOTION". I GUESS IF I'M NOT PROMOTING THE SELLING OF ASS....I DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT TO PROMOTE. THANKS FOR FURTHER HELPING TO ILLUSTRATE MY POINT. ADD A FEW MORE "OINKS" TO YOUR BADGE OF HONOR.

[mbf]

if you read the post....you would see there was no mention of my website.

errr your whole handle is a plug ....

yeah I read your post, and its pretty obvious it's onesided and one dimensional.... you live in your bubble of stone-age pseudofeminist thinking. As far as I am concerned, good luck with that :praying:

[DarylWashington]

Nope!.....

[bat1]

I see ts as a label put on us by society and those who use us to make money for themselves because they promote us as a fetish for their financial gain.

for there's or yours?

every TS I met in Hollywood just really wants your wallet..once your sucked dry
they move on to someone else...

[www.tglovers.com]

errr your whole handle is a plug ....

yeah I read your post, and its pretty obvious it's onesided and one dimensional.... you live in your bubble of stone-age pseudofeminist thinking. As far as I am concerned, good luck with that :praying:
The only thing "pseudo" is your intellect. And as far as one dimensional goes: why don't you try see transsexuals in multiple dimensions and not as "one dimensional" sex objects.

And yes...I plug my site as I said before....this site is for promotion. So what? www.tglovers.com! you are shameless and unapologetic for your objectification of tg women. I am shamelessly promoting...I guess we have something in common.

[piazzollac]

i agree with you.

[ARMANIXXX]

The only thing "pseudo" is your intellect. And as far as one dimensional goes: why don't you try see transsexuals in multiple dimensions and not as "one dimensional" sex objects.

And yes...I plug my site as I said before....this site is for promotion. So what? www.tglovers.com (http://www.tglovers.com)! you are shameless and unapologetic for your objectification of tg women. I am shamelessly promoting...I guess we have something in common.

You are on a porn site babe.

You have little reason or right to come here and spout how deadly and detrimental sex talk is here.

Doing so is ludicrous and foolery at the same time....real talk.

[www.tglovers.com]

You are on a porn site babe.

You have little reason or right to come here and spout how deadly and detrimental sex talk is here.

Doing so is ludicrous and foolery at the same time....real talk.
How about you go back and read the original message and then comment. Skimming Vs. reading leads to ill informed statement "babe". I clearly stated in my original post that I am well aware its an adult site. I wouldn't make much sense to ask about objectification on a "Parents Who Home-school" site? You have go to where the debauchery and hedonist live.

[giovanni_hotel]

For the record, if all the guys on the site were about 'objectifying TGs', this thread wouldn't be almost 10 pages long.

Guys would be looking for tittay/cock pics, see none, and move on.
I would love to be a member of a social board dedicated to TS that wasn't primarily sexual, but HA isn't that site.

Try as you might, it's pointless to turn this board into something it's not. HA is about escorting/porn first, checking about the girls, being able to talk to a few, and the thought-provoking, mind enriching convo(!!lol) comes a distant third.

HA is like the Playboy of the transgendered world.

No point in coming on here and being offended that guys are overtly lusting after TGs.

THAT'S THE POINT.

Which isn't same as being insulting or disrespectful.
Most guys simply refuse to post in threads about girls they don't find attractive. They rarely go out of their way to insult girls.

[www.tglovers.com]

For the record, if all the guys on the site were about 'objectifying TGs', this thread wouldn't be almost 10 pages long.

Guys would be looking for tittay/cock pics, see none, and move on.
I would love to be a member of a social board dedicated to TS that wasn't primarily sexual, but HA isn't that site.

Try as you might, it's pointless to turn this board into something it's not. HA is about escorting/porn first, checking about the girls, being able to talk to a few, and the thought-provoking, mind enriching convo(!!lol) comes a distant third.

HA is like the Playboy of the transgendered world.

No point in coming on here and being offended that guys are overtly lusting after TGs.

THAT'S THE POINT.

Which isn't same as being insulting or disrespectful.
Most guys simply refuse to post in threads about girls they don't find attractive. They rarely go out of their way to insult girls.

Who's trying to turn the board into something its not? Its a discussion forum right? This is a discussion. I am amazed at the fact so many of you...take it personally. That speaks volumes. I never attacked anyone as an individual I am simply addressing something that is my mind. But I forget transsexuals are not supposed to have brains, thoughts, feeling, emotions etc....etc... We're supposed to flash or cocks, suck cock and wait for the next client to call.

Makes sense.

[bte]

This board is about sex with discussion about social issues, sports, religion, and politics. When you logon you can expect to see two things well three things: cock, tits, and am I gay threads.

This board does not represent the entire transgender community, but the community that is in the sex industry and the admirers of transsexual women.

[giovanni_hotel]

When you generalize about ALL the male members on this site, in the title of the OP and the text of your message, what do you expect to happen except for people to take it personal??

It's like going to a swinger's board and posing a question about why do all members there disrespect the concept of monogamous relationships??

Just because you're transsexual doesn't mean you're never WRONG.

And ideally you know you would love for HA to be a site that, in your words, doesn't 'objectify' women. Otherwise you wouldn't have posed the question to the male members of the board.

Fielding criticism doesn't mean anyone believes TGs should fuck/suck and not be heard. I don't even know how you got there!

[bte]

When you generalize about ALL the male members on this site, in the title of the OP and the text of your message, what do you expect to happen except for people to take it personal??

It's like going to a swinger's board and posing a question about why do all members there disrespect the concept of monogamous relationships??

Just because you're transsexual doesn't mean you're never WRONG.

And ideally you know you would love for HA to be a site that, in your words, doesn't 'objectify' women. Otherwise you wouldn't have posed the question to the male members of the board.

Fielding criticism doesn't mean anyone believes TGs should fuck/suck and not be heard. I don't even know how you got there!

Good point Giovanni!

[ARMANIXXX]

Who's trying to turn the board into something its not? Its a discussion forum right? This is a discussion. I am amazed at the fact so many of you...take it personally. That speaks volumes. I never attacked anyone as an individual I am simply addressing something that is my mind. But I forget transsexuals are not supposed to have brains, thoughts, feeling, emotions etc....etc... We're supposed to flash or cocks, suck cock and wait for the next client to call.

Makes sense.


Welcome to HA, and enjoy your stay.









Oh yeah...

Pics please, thanks.

;)

[mbf]

you are shameless and unapologetic for your objectification of tg women.

Thanks, I wear that badge with pride :Bowdown:

The more you whine the more I like it, keep it coming!

[giovanni_hotel]

BTW, it's hilarious that you would complain about 'objectification', but in your youtube clips, you have the camera zeroed in on your CLEAVAGE!!lolol

No face, we're forced to essentially dialogue with your bewbies.

TGs....don't understand them.

Can't live without them!

[www.tglovers.com]

BTW, it's hilarious that you would complain about 'objectification', but in your youtube clips, you have the camera zeroed in on your CLEAVAGE!!lolol

No face, we're forced to essentially dialogue with your bewbies.

TGs....don't understand them.

Can't live without them!
This soooo funny to me. I cannot believe you guys want to act as if I'm pulling this out my ass. Like guys don't objectify transsexuals. I guess I am pulling the transsexual equivalent of the race card (lol). Men can be pigs...accept it.

As far as my Youtube videos go...I like to dress sexy...so what? Does that mean I can't be intelligent or have a valid point? When you see me selling ass on Craigslist....then you can talk.

I own a business. A few businesses in fact and the bewbies you see are a direct result of my success as a business woman. Some successful people by cars...I bought boobs.

My point has been made....very few of you feel guilty about the objectification and this obviously why transsexual women are one dimensional when it comes to men and their money.

If you take the time to go back and read some of the responses you will see that in spite of being adult entertainers...some of the girls on this site still feel objectified.

I realize that I am your conscience speaking and you don't like it. Just remember: growth and development are rarely comfortable.

[www.tglovers.com]

Welcome to HA, and enjoy your stay.







Oh yeah...

Pics please, thanks.

;)

Clearly this board is for porn stars and escorts, none of which I am. Therefore I highly doubt the men here would be interested in seeing a photo of an intelligent, self made, independent, successful and might I add stunning....transsexual.

So there will be no photos of me posted!

[bte]

@TGLovers

Do you have an issue with the guys on HA objectifiying transgendered women or the entire porn industry?

Sorry didn't read the other pages to see if someone has asked you that.

[traLika]

My point has been made....very few of you feel guilty about the objectification and this obviously why transsexual women are one dimensional when it comes to men and their money.


Hmmmmm. So for the third and final time, are we to take it that you stand by your original statement: "I have yet to see a guy on here show ANY level of humanity or respect for transgendered women." ?

If so, define what you mean by "ANY level of humanity or respect". We'd all really like to know...

[www.tglovers.com]

Hmmmmm. So for the third and final time, are we to take it that you stand by your original statement: "I have yet to see a guy on here show ANY level of humanity or respect for transgendered women." ?

If so, define what you mean by "ANY level of humanity or respect". We'd all really like to know...
If you have to ask me that question....we are clearly on two different boards.

Unfortunately. I have to get back to work.

Here what I've learned from this topic: Ignorance is bliss

[traLika]

If you have to ask me that question....we are clearly on two different boards.


Well, you clearly don't read many threads outside your own in the General Discussion board, do you?

[Jericho]

Clearly this board is for porn stars and escorts, none of which I am. Therefore I highly doubt the men here would be interested in seeing a photo of an intelligent, self made, independent, successful and might I add stunning....transsexual.

So there will be no photos of me posted!

Modest...Don't forget modest! :roll:

[GrimFusion]

BTW, it's hilarious that you would complain about 'objectification', but in your youtube clips, you have the camera zeroed in on your CLEAVAGE!!lolol

No face, we're forced to essentially dialogue with your bewbies.

TGs....don't understand them.

Can't live without them!

I concur. I think she's has good intentions, but she tends to take her personal experiences and come up with these very black and white blanket statements that don't apply well to the majority of anybody, let alone the group she's targeting. I, too think it's a little ridiculous she spends most of her time practically preaching about equality and social awareness while making her cleavage the focal point. I couldn't help but laugh my ass off while I was watching her "Transsexual Porn Addiction" video, despite entirely disagreeing with her point of view.

[traLika]

Here what I've learned from this topic: Ignorance is bliss


It most certainly is... lol

[ARMANIXXX]

Clearly this board is for porn stars and escorts, none of which I am. Therefore I highly doubt the men here would be interested in seeing a photo of an intelligent, self made, independent, successful and might I add stunning....transsexual.

So there will be no photos of me posted!


As someone mentioned to you, the community of HA, such as it is, does in fact have a tolerance for real discussion and intelligence.

But as you said yourself, this is a porn site.
You will get no sympathy here from the guys, the girls, certainly not the owner, and not from me either, regarding the plight, rather, the objectification of TS's. It's an accepted attrbute by default. If it is disturbing to you, as you said, you might have to bounce. I don't want that, but that is a sane alternative to being disturbed whenever coming here.

Also, you comparing this "plight" to that of black people is rather loathsome as well....obviously, I am black, btw.

And one more thing, how in the he double L are you gonna take this stance when you deliberately show you cleavage (very nice cleavage btw...more please ;) )...you know exactly what your doing with that.
You are being a Hypocrite.

So wtf?

[Nivek]

This site is the best, as for objectifying anyone on here, hey you said it... We are all adults on here. You either have thick skin and take everything written about you with a grain of salt.. or you take every word to heart and shrivel up n die. TG's deserve the most respect in my mind because of the sacrifice they put themselves through everyday in public. In my experience on the street I have seen first hand how ppl are quick to ridicule tgs with no reason at all. People are still in the dark ages when it comes to tolerance and acceptance of one another's sexuality and personal choices. Its sad that despite how far along Humans have come with technological advances with medicine and day to day living, that we still cant find it in our hearts to accept our fellow brothers and sisters for who they chose to be.. themselves.

[bte]

And one more thing, how in the he double L are you gonna take this stance when you deliberately show you cleavage (very nice cleavage btw...more please ;) )...you know exactly what your doing with that.
You are being a Hypocrite.

So wtf?

Good point. Aren't the girls objectifiying themselves as well. They are promoting their site and advertising when they are going to be in a city. Aren't they objectifiying themselves and isn't TGLovers doing the same thing with her youtube videos. Which on content alone (and not the camera view of your breasts) are quite excellent. Every race and gender is objectified in some way shape or form. If you go to Hooters, women are being objectified for the sake of buffalo wings. Go to a strip club and women and men are being objectified by getting nude and receiving 1 dollar bills.

[traLika]

TG's deserve the most respect in my mind because of the sacrifice they put themselves through everyday in public. In my experience on the street I have seen first hand how ppl are quick to ridicule tgs with no reason at all. People are still in the dark ages when it comes to tolerance and acceptance of one another's sexuality and personal choices. Its sad that despite how far along Humans have come with technological advances with medicine and day to day living, that we still cant find it in our hearts to accept our fellow brothers and sisters for who they chose to be.. themselves.


Steady on Nivek... you're showing humanity and respect for transgendered women when tglovers clearly states that we don't do that around here. Not ever! ;)

(BTW, I agree totally with what you said!)

[ARMANIXXX]

Good point. Aren't the girls objectifiying themselves as well. They are promoting their site and advertising when they are going to be in a city. Aren't they objectifiying themselves and isn't TGLovers doing the same thing with her youtube videos. Which on content alone (and not the camera view of your breasts) are quite excellent. Every race and gender is objectified in some way shape or form. If you go to Hooters, women are being objectified for the sake of buffalo wings. Go to a strip club and women and men are being objectified by getting nude and receiving 1 dollar bills.

Exactly.

She knows exactly what this place is and is about.

Yet, it's not despicable enough to not advertise the wares of her own website for personal gain.

She is so hypocritical that it isn't even funny....

Actually, scratch that...

it's funny as hell.

lol

[www.tglovers.com]

Exactly.

She knows exactly what this place is and is about.

Yet, it's not despicable enough to not advertise the wares of her own website for personal gain.

She is so hypocritical that it isn't even funny....

Actually, scratch that...

it's funny as hell.

lol
1st all....I don't assume everyone on HA is "despicable" (lol). You all have tried every thing in the book to tear down my original question and have come up empty handed. You objectify transsexual women...admit. Say I don't feel guilty about it and move on like some other guys have.

And this thing about me advertising my site(www.tglovers.com)....is (http://www.tglovers.com%29....is) so funny. Its called branding. I'm sure there are some guys on this site who seek a true connection with a transgendered woman and have no idea where to go.

Most men are 1st introduced to transsexuals through adult entertainment, however at some point they grow out of it and long for a more meaningful connection. You my dears are in a state of arrested development. Grow up!

I hate to ruin your fantasy by bringing reality into the equation.

Not everyone wants to talk about the latest porn scene or who had sex with who. You all sound like a bunch of prepubescent boys in the locker room.

So continue to push your porn and I'll continue to make it my business to let the world know that there is a spectrum of transsexuals. We are not only sexy objects or superficial trophies.

Oh and one more time: www.tglovers.com (http://www.tglovers.com)

[BellaBellucci]

1st all....I don't assume everyone on HA is "despicable" (lol). You all have tried every thing in the book to tear down my original question and have come up empty handed. You objectify transsexual women...admit. Say I don't feel guilty about it and move on like some other guys have.

And this thing about me advertising my site(www.tglovers.com)....is (http://www.tglovers.com%29....is) so funny. Its called branding. I'm sure there are some guys on this site who seek a true connection with a transgendered woman and have no idea where to go.

Most men are 1st introduced to transsexuals through adult entertainment, however at some point they grow out of it and long for a more meaningful connection. You my dears are in a state of arrested development. Grow up!

I hate to ruin your fantasy by bringing reality into the equation.

Not everyone wants to talk about the latest porn scene or who had sex with who. You all sound like a bunch of prepubescent boys in the locker room.

So continue to push your porn and I'll continue to make it my business to let the world know that there is a spectrum of transsexuals. We are not only sexy objects or superficial trophies.

Oh and one more time: www.tglovers.com (http://www.tglovers.com)

You raise a lot of good points, but I think they're a bit non-cohesive. The fact that guys come here to objectify transwomen who are in that business is not a bad thing. They have to go somewhere.

But when objectification either (a) turns into disrespect or (b) doesn't end when the objectifier actually begins to get to know the objectified (i.e. as in friendship, a date, etc.) then IMHO it becomes wrong. In all of my tirades, I don't think I've ever said otherwise, and even if I wanted to, I know this wouldn't be the place to do it.

That said, there are plenty of guys here looking for a relationship and the rest are just pigs (and of course the same goes for us girls). Again: if they want to objectify me and pay for it, that's their right and that's our purpose here, but like Vanessa said, once the day is out, the TS light goes with it. If a girl's not promoting and/or she's talking about something serious, it's probably not the time to ask for pics, especially those of a sexual nature. And usually when someone asks, it's an attempt to belittle someone else's opinion.

I think there's a line. Some guys cross it. Some guys don't. I don't think such broad generalizations ever helped anyone. Whoever shall respect me and mine will earn my respect in return. If a guy wants to objectify me inappropriately or belittle my opinion just because I'm a girl, then yeah, even though I'd never call someone a chaser, that's pretty much what they are, and yes, it can be creepy.

~BB~

[bte]

This is a porn site about transsexual women, so of course there is going to be pictures that objectify transsexual women. If you were a member of a straight porn forum, then there will be pictures objectifiying women. If you were on a gay porn forum, there will be guys being objectified. But its not only the guys that post pictures of porn, the girls on this forum do it as well. So I suppose we are all guilty of objectifying transwomen.

So to answer your original question, we all objectify women, but should we feel guilty? Nah, because this is first and foremost a porn forum.

[www.tglovers.com]

This is a porn site about transsexual women, so of course there is going to be pictures that objectify transsexual women. If you were a member of a straight porn forum, then there will be pictures objectifiying women. If you were on a gay porn forum, there will be guys being objectified. But its not only the guys that post pictures of porn, the girls on this forum do it as well. So I suppose we are all guilty of objectifying transwomen.

So to answer your original question, we all objectify women, but should we feel guilty? Nah, because this is first and foremost a porn forum.
I'm not gay....I'm transgendered. I'm not "straight" I'm transsexual, so my issues are within that tg community. The gay and Straight community have pretty firm rules of engagement established. The TG community....not so much. Although you may think its far fetched, a lot of guys who come to these boards are in the beginning stages of their TG initiation. So they believe what they learn here translates into real life. They believe every transsexual is out to be used for their sexual satisfaction.

As a transsexual woman...I take issue with that. I don't feel bad for wanting the world to know that we are a diverse community. Some girls escort...some don't.

That being said I can at least appreciate and respect the fact that you admit to objectifying transsexuals and you don't feel bad about it.

[BellaBellucci]

So to answer your original question, we all objectify women, but should we feel guilty? Nah, because this is first and foremost a porn forum.

I think the OP's point is that so many guys are spoiled by porn and transfer their feelings about pornstars onto women with whom they claim to want a relationship and most women, trans or GG, even civvie or pornstar, don't want that to become a factor in their intimacy and don't want their relationships to be limited to the physical. This probably happens more to transwomen because so many of us are in the sex business for financial reasons that guys seems to think it's just our preference.

~BB~

[bte]

I think the OP's point is that so many guys are spoiled by porn and transfer their feelings about pornstars onto women with whom they claim to want a relationship and most women, trans or GG, even civvie or pornstar, don't want that to become a factor in their intimacy and don't want their relationships to be limited to the physical. This probably happens more to transwomen because so many of us are in the sex business for financial reasons that guys seems to think it's just our preference.

~BB~

I see, I understand what you are saying. Well the guy should be able to separate real life from fantasy. Most guys can, but there are some guys who cannot separate porn fantasy from real life.

[bte]

I'm not gay....I'm transgendered. I'm not "straight" I'm transsexual, so my issues are within that tg community. The gay and Straight community have pretty firm rules of engagement established. The TG community....not so much. Although you may think its far fetched, a lot of guys who come to these boards are in the beginning stages of their TG initiation. So they believe what they learn here translates into real life. They believe every transsexual is out to be used for their sexual satisfaction.

As a transsexual woman...I take issue with that. I don't feel bad for wanting the world to know that we are a diverse community. Some girls escort...some don't.

That being said I can at least appreciate and respect the fact that you admit to objectifying transsexuals and you don't feel bad about it.

I was just using those as examples. By the way, isn't gay and straight sexuality terms and not gender terms? So isn't there such thing as a straight transgender person or a gay transgender person?

[Nicole Dupre]

Of course they objectify us. We're inviting them to. What sane adult can't figure out where fantasy ends and where reality begins? Compartmentalization is your friend, people. lol

What I think is most bizarre of all is non-sexworker trannys coming here and acting like they want to save the sexworker trannys.

Btw, anyone here find this to be hypocritical? I mean, God forbid Peggy actually backs up anything she says. lol It sounds so right on, until you realize it's all surface talk. :footinmouth

http://www.hungangels.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=25080&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=50

But see, this is the problem. This is not where you come to burn your bra and draw lines in the sand. This forum is about trannys agreeing to give men what they WANT. I am not the girl next door. I'm a promiscuous hussy who wants to get her brains fucked out. Save that altruistic bullshit for somewhere else.

God, I hate this pretentious women's lib crusader crap. "Oh, boohoo. I'm a woman, but now I don't like men treating me the way they would treat any other woman. Boo hoo."

PLEASE. If you wanted to seriously change anything, you'd avoid the TS meat market like the plague. MANY trannys won't come here on principle. But this forum has it's fair share of horny & hypocritical TS masochists and martyrs, like Tika, who come here to jerk off to TS porn, and then proselytize later. lol

[ARMANIXXX]

Of course they objectify us. We're inviting them to. What sane adult can't figure out where fantasy ends and where reality begins? Compartmentalization is your friend, people. lol

What I think is most bizarre of all is non-sexworker trannys coming here and acting like they want to save the sexworker trannys.

Btw, anyone here find this to be hypocritical? I mean, God forbid Peggy actually backs up anything she says. lol It sounds so right on, until you realize it's all surface talk. :footinmouth

http://www.hungangels.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=25080&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=50

But see, this is the problem. This is not where you come to burn your bra and draw lines in the sand. This forum is about trannys agreeing to give men what they WANT. I am not the girl next door. I'm a promiscuous hussy who wants to get her brains fucked out. Save that altruistic bullshit for somewhere else.

God, I hate this pretentious women's lib crusader crap. "Oh, boohoo. I'm a woman, but now I don't like men treating me the way they would treat any other woman. Boo hoo."

PLEASE. If you wanted to seriously change anything, you'd avoid the TS meat market like the plague. MANY trannys won't come here on principle. But this forum has it's fair share of horny & hypocritical TS masochists and martyrs, like Tika, who come here to jerk off to TS porn, and then proselytize later. lol



YES.

That is the funniest and most ironic part.

I'm not sure if its something to be proud and grateful for or otherwise,

But at least here on this site,

The guys are treating the TS's exactly like we would do any other woman.
lol


I want big asses and big titties in my face on the porn sites I visit.....


So freakin sue me.....

Just make sure I get my ass and titties first.

;)

[www.tglovers.com]

Of course they objectify us. We're inviting them to. What sane adult can't figure out where fantasy ends and where reality begins? Compartmentalization is your friend, people. lol

What I think is most bizarre of all is non-sexworker trannys coming here and acting like they want to save the sexworker trannys.

Btw, anyone here find this to be hypocritical? I mean, God forbid Peggy actually backs up anything she says. lol It sounds so right on, until you realize it's all surface talk. :footinmouth

http://www.hungangels.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=25080&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=50

But see, this is the problem. This is not where you come to burn your bra and draw lines in the sand. This forum is about trannys agreeing to give men what they WANT. I am not the girl next door. I'm a promiscuous hussy who wants to get her brains fucked out. Save that altruistic bullshit for somewhere else.

God, I hate this pretentious women's lib crusader crap. "Oh, boohoo. I'm a woman, but now I don't like men treating me the way they would treat any other woman. Boo hoo."

PLEASE. If you wanted to seriously change anything, you'd avoid the TS meat market like the plague. MANY trannys won't come here on principle. But this forum has it's fair share of horny & hypocritical TS masochists and martyrs, like Tika, who come here to jerk off to TS porn, and then proselytize later. lol
You are funny and sad. 1st of all as i said earlier: Why would I go to a board where women are respected and ask if they felt guilty about objectifying transsexuals? This is a place were clearly they are objectified, so it makes sense to ask the question.

I am not trying to "save" anyone...that doesn't want to be saved. But i happened to take pride in setting a different example. I don't judge you for doing what you do to ear a living. Do you mami.

[Nicole Dupre]

If there are girls here, entering the TS sex scene with their eyes closed about what men are really like, and who resent the basic premise of porn and providing men with sexual fantasies, they should step back and reconsider this life There's no débutante party at the end of the rainbow.

I think there are a lot of trannys around who are lesbians, and who just don't like men anyway. Ever notice how the GGs protesting porn are always angry dykes? ;) Yeesh. lol

Werq it out, peoples. lol

[LAKidd]

hey...
Tgirls like a bad boy

[Nicole Dupre]

"Sad"? Sister, you're the one who wants to have these discussions everywhere online with your face blocked out. Werq it out, gurl. lol

Anyway, I didn't say you wanted to save anyone. I just think you're preaching to the wrong crowd, minus a few people who are seriously deluded. I also think this is just a way to get traffic on your sites. lol

[giovanni_hotel]

Women of every stripe are objectified EVERYWHERE all over the world, not just on a TG porn forum. I bet Judge Alito and Justice Thomas have briefly wondered what Ruth Bader Ginsberg's pussy tastes like(!!) in their more vulnerable moments.

That's just how men are wired. It doesn't mean you always vocalize or act on those impulses, but don't act as if this topic is ONLY relevant on HA, when strangely, this is the last place a person, or transgendered female, should be concerned with being seen as a sex object, because that's the neighborhood we're all playing in.

I think the real problem is you have an issue with TGs, escorting and porn, but aren't honest enough to come out and say it.

So instead you generalize that every male member on HA view Tgirls as pieces of meat, blowup dolls with a heartbeat, when in fact you have NO idea what you're talking about.

In many ways, I think HA is one of the more psychologically healthy, emotionally positive porn sites on the interwebz, simply because of the fact that real LIVE transgendered women, both from within the industry and civilians, frequently post here to give the guys some real world perspective about the objects of their affection.

Most guys already know, or have learned about the perspective of most TGs on escorting from their regular posting on HA, how it's not a backdoor to a LTR, that many clients are kinda creepy, that it's all a paper thing.

Of course I'm all about the sucking/fucking too, but I've also learned that so many girls/women here are absolutely more than the sum of their parts, or the erotic power of their images.

But tglover, you came here assuming you had all the answers and no one could tell you differently. You're what my nanna used to call, 'hard-headed'. You assume that you know all about HA, when truthfully there's no way anyone can generalize about the TGs or the men who lust after them.

There obviously are girls I would die to fucc on HA, but at the same time there are females whom I've developed an attraction for that goes way beyond just a physical appeal.

All thanks to HA.
Get real, tglover.

[www.tglovers.com]

"Sad"? Sister, you're the one who wants to have these discussions everywhere online with your face blocked out. Werq it out, gurl. lol

Anyway, I didn't say you wanted to save anyone. I just think you're preaching to the wrong crowd, minus a few people who are seriously deluded. I also think this is just a way to get traffic on your sites. lol
we've already established this is a means for advertising my site www.tglovers.com. You guys keep bringing it up, so I feel compelled to plug it.

Unlike you...I am not a promiscuous slut or whatever you called yourself. So I prefer a level of anonymity. You continue getting plugged and I will continue "plugging".

[Nicole Dupre]

we've already established this is a means for advertising my site www.tglovers.com. You guys keep bringing it up, so I feel compelled to plug it.

Unlike you...I am not a promiscuous slut or whatever you called yourself. So I prefer a level of anonymity. You continue getting plugged and I will continue "plugging".
Unlike you, I am not trying to make a porn forum into an anonymous version of the Dr Phil show. I'm a TS sex worker on a site that celebrates TS sex workers. There are things to discuss here beyond the inherent dynamic of the world's oldest profession.

If you're such a desperate prude, that you need to hawk your site on a porn forum, have at it. But you're not sounding very bright along the way. lol

[BellaBellucci]

Of course they objectify us. We're inviting them to. What sane adult can't figure out where fantasy ends and where reality begins? Compartmentalization is your friend, people. lol

Lots of 'sane' adults can't figure it out. Even still, your comment makes a lot of sense. Where's the real Nicole and what have you done to her? :yayo:

~BB~

[BellaBellucci]

You are funny and sad. 1st of all as i said earlier: Why would I go to a board where women are respected and ask if they felt guilty about objectifying transsexuals? This is a place were clearly they are objectified, so it makes sense to ask the question.

I am not trying to "save" anyone...that doesn't want to be saved. But i happened to take pride in setting a different example. I don't judge you for doing what you do to ear a living. Do you mami.

Score 1 Cerebral Diva. This is getting exciting!

http://nutrihealth.in/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/popcorn.jpg

~BB~

[Nicole Dupre]

Score 1 Cerebral Diva. This is getting exciting!

http://nutrihealth.in/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/popcorn.jpg

~BB~
Keep score on getting your asshole fucked without it hurting, you maladjusted loser.

[BellaBellucci]

Keep score on getting your asshole fucked without it hurting, you maladjusted loser.

Ooh! So fiesty!

~BB~

[Nicole Dupre]

Ooh! So fiesty!

~BB~
I'm not even talking to you, Scooby. I already know how flawed your thinking is.

[BellaBellucci]

I'm not even talking to you, Scooby. I already know how flawed your thinking is.

Oh, gee. I'm sorry. Who were you talking to then?

~BB~

[Nicole Dupre]

Oh, gee. I'm sorry. Who were you talking to then?

~BB~
Like most people here; I wasn't talking to you. You're hopelessly retarded.

[Nicole Dupre]

But I am glad you respond to "Scooby Doo" when I address that way, you big, lanky mutt-mutt. lol

[youshouldtrythislol]

wow. this thread has become one long rant instead of a discussion, with some namecalling interjected within. it seems everyone is set in their own ways and is not the least bit open-minded to new ideas, no matter how rational they may be. i know everyone is not going to agree, but it is possible to have a discussion without namecalling.

[www.tglovers.com]

Unlike you, I am not trying to make a porn forum into an anonymous version of the Dr Phil show. I'm a TS sex worker on a site that celebrates TS sex workers. There are things to discuss here beyond the inherent dynamic of the world's oldest profession.

If you're such a desperate prude, that you need to hawk your site on a porn forum, have at it. But you're not sounding very bright along the way. lol
Now that is some funny shit.... You sell your body for a living and I'm desperate? Girl please! Your credibility was shot the moment you said that you are "promiscuous slut". I can barely type....this is so funny.

Someone who "Hawks" their body is calling me desperate! I could really take this someplace dark and ugly and really tell you how a feel about you but out of respect for self-respecting working girls and out of respect for tg women in general...I'm going to refrain and remain a lady (feel free to take notes).

You continue being the promiscuous, lost individual you are and I will continue to be the antidote to the poison and cancer that you so readily and eagerly promote for a buck.And I will continue to promote my site.


www.tglovers.com (http://www.tglovers.com)
www.tglovers.com (http://www.tglovers.com)
www.tglovers.com (http://www.tglovers.com)

[BellaBellucci]

wow. this thread has become one long rant instead of a discussion, with some namecalling interjected within. it seems everyone is set in their own ways and is not the least bit open-minded to new ideas, no matter how rational they may be. i know everyone is not going to agree, but it is possible to have a discussion without namecalling.

I think you know the answer to that. It makes you wonder what some people are so afraid of. :geek:

~BB~

[www.tglovers.com]

wow. this thread has become one long rant instead of a discussion, with some namecalling interjected within. it seems everyone is set in their own ways and is not the least bit open-minded to new ideas, no matter how rational they may be. i know everyone is not going to agree, but it is possible to have a discussion without namecalling.
I agree with you a 100% I simply opened up what i believed to be a valid topic. Everyone began throwing daggers. I felt like a cat with a long tail in a room full of rocking chairs.

I thought it was a discussion forum but for some reason if you challenge the belief and value system of some these people....they take it to another level. I'm not a fighter but I'm far from a shrinking violet.

[Nicole Dupre]

wow. this thread has become one long rant instead of a discussion, with some namecalling interjected within. it seems everyone is set in their own ways and is not the least bit open-minded to new ideas, no matter how rational they may be. i know everyone is not going to agree, but it is possible to have a discussion without namecalling.
Oh, please. Every thread I post on gets a ton of traffic. I wouldn't start bitching.

And anyway, you started things off by calling me "sad'. Well I think you're sad, and that Bella is saddest.

All of you prudes who don't like to fuck or watch porn should remember that porn is not about being politically correct. It's about sex. Sex and sexual fantasies are not "correct", thank god.

[Nicole Dupre]

Now that is some funny shit.... You sell your body for a living and I'm desperate? Girl please! Your credibility was shot the moment you said that you are "promiscuous slut". I can barely type....this is so funny.

Someone who "Hawks" their body is calling me desperate! I could really take this someplace dark and ugly and really tell you how a feel about you but out of respect for self-respecting working girls and out of respect for tg women in general...I'm going to refrain and remain a lady (feel free to take notes).

You continue being the promiscuous, lost individual you are and I will continue to be the antidote to the poison and cancer that you so readily and eagerly promote for a buck.And I will continue to promote my site.


www.tglovers.com (http://www.tglovers.com)
www.tglovers.com (http://www.tglovers.com)
www.tglovers.com (http://www.tglovers.com)
Oh, god. Another self-righteous a-hole thinks it takes "desperation" to be a provider.

You watch too much television. Bitch, you're the one on the porn forum acting stuck-up. Not me. If you can't accept porn for what it is, you're the desperate one. Trust.

[JoePitt]

Why would I go to a board where women are respected and ask if they felt guilty about objectifying transsexuals

That would be tough mainly due to the fact that such a board exists only in Bizzaro World.

[BellaBellucci]

Oh, please. Every thread I post on gets a ton of traffic. I wouldn't start bitching.

And anyway, you started things off by calling me "sad'. Well I think you're sad, and that Bella is saddest.

All of you prudes who don't like to fuck or watch porn should remember that porn is not about being politically correct. It's about sex. Sex and sexual fantasies are not "correct", thank god.

I'm not sure why you keep bringing my name into this. I'm the one that respects both positions, provided the appropriate context.

'Strong and bitter words indicate a weak cause.' That's what I always say. I can only imagine the intense fear you must harbor to feel the need to behave in such a nasty and controlling manner.

I'm sorry, but there is no way in hell that you weren't abused, probably sexually. You're Sicilian and probably Catholic and you swear that you're close to your family, so maybe it was a priest? Maybe you have a lot of guilt that you try to alleviate by insisting on lowering the bar of perception towards both the TS and escort communities to make your shame seem more understandable and bring everyone else down to your level.

Am I getting warm? Just know that there is help. If you come clean and get some, I for one will forgive you. :yingyang:

~BB~

[giovanni_hotel]

When do we get to call tglover what she is, another TROLL talking nonsense on HA??.

[Nicole Dupre]

Bringing up your name? I'm not even talking to you. Step off my twat, Scooby. You're like a bag lady on a subway train, babbling, and hoping someone can't avoid noticing you. You've done this weird shit before, and been completely wrong just as you are now.

Well I'm not you, "Bella Bellucci". Thank fucking GOD. I'm not in a world of pain, or struggling to pay my rent as I eat peanutbutter from a jar. So stop projecting your dead-end life and your own dysfuctional Sicilian upbringing onto me. You've never been "warm" in your whole twisted existence, of shitty jailhouse tattoos and failed marriages.

Once again, you're horrible at doing guess work about me.

[Tepres]

I bet Judge Alito and Justice Thomas have briefly wondered what Ruth Bader Ginsberg's pussy tastes like(!!) in their more vulnerable moments.

You're wrong for putting that thought into my head, bro.

[Jericho]

I agree with you a 100% I simply opened up what i believed to be a valid topic. Everyone began throwing daggers. I felt like a cat with a long tail in a room full of rocking chairs.

Colour me priceless!

[BellaBellucci]

Bringing up your name? I'm not even talking to you. Step off my twat, Scooby. You're like a bag lady on a subway train, babbling, and hoping someone can't avoid noticing you. You've done this weird shit before, and been completely wrong just as you are now.

Well I'm not you, "Bella Bellucci". Thank fucking GOD. I'm not in a world of pain, or struggling to pay my rent as I eat peanutbutter from a jar. So stop projecting your dead-end life and your own dysfuctional Sicilian upbringing onto me. You've never been "warm" in your whole twisted existence, of shitty jailhouse tattoos and failed marriages.

Once again, you're horrible at doing guess work about me.

Thank you. :geek:

~BB~

[Nicole Dupre]

Colour me priceless!
More like being a sanctimonious prude, too ashamed to show her face, in a room full of working girls.

[Nicole Dupre]

Thank you. :geek:

~BB~
Glad I could make you count for 10 seconds, Scoob.

P.S. I love your Duane Reade bag.

[Tepres]

When you click on the link of the site, another site called 'The Tranny Diaries' comes up.

[Nicole Dupre]

When you click on the link of the site, another site called 'The Tranny Diaries' comes up.
That's what she's spamming instead of porn.

[Tepres]

It looks very similar to TGflix.

[www.tglovers.com]

That's what she's spamming instead of porn.
You are so sad. Pathetic even. How desperate can you be shoving an inanimate object up your ass 4 cash.

The only thing "spam" around here is the smell of a used transsexual hooker, past her prime and desperate for clients.

[Nicole Dupre]

it looks very similar to tgflix.
lmao!.........

[Dino Velvet]

I just spent the last 10 minutes looking for fake nudes of Ruth Bader Ginsberg. What the Hell is wrong with me?

[www.tglovers.com]

When do we get to call tglover what she is, another TROLL talking nonsense on HA??.
Oooh a "Troll"...that hit me where it hurts. Trolls pay 4 ass because they can't get it for free. So seeing how you proclaim this to be a a site for "working girls" and you patronize them....I think its safe to assume who's the troll.

I'm not a troll....I'm in con-trol.

[Tepres]

I know that online stores can have sister sites that are similar, but run by the same webmaster. I'm not saying I know for sure that this is a sister site to TGflix...but I just thought I'd throw the possibility out there.

[www.tglovers.com]

I know that online stores can have sister sites that are similar, but run by the same webmaster. I'm not saying I know for sure that this is a sister site to TGflix...but I just thought I'd throw the possibility out there.
No TGFlix is a site that allows nudity! No nudity is allowed on my site. We are two totally different entities, not connected in any way.

[Nicole Dupre]

Now that is some funny shit.... You sell your body for a living and I'm desperate? Girl please! Your credibility was shot the moment you said that you are "promiscuous slut". I can barely type....this is so funny.

Someone who "Hawks" their body is calling me desperate! I could really take this someplace dark and ugly and really tell you how a feel about you but out of respect for self-respecting working girls and out of respect for tg women in general...I'm going to refrain and remain a lady (feel free to take notes).

You continue being the promiscuous, lost individual you are and I will continue to be the antidote to the poison and cancer that you so readily and eagerly promote for a buck.And I will continue to promote my site.

Btw, imo, you should be banned for saying that. TS porn and escorting is why HA is here; not for for your shitty site or your pretentious "antidote" to TS sex work.

[www.tglovers.com]

Btw, imo, you should be banned for saying that. TS porn and escorting is why HA is here; not for for your shitty site or your pretentious "antidote" to TS sex work.
As far I'm concerned...you should be banned from earth...you diseased piece of trash!

[Nicole Dupre]

As far I'm concerned...you should be banned from earth...you diseased piece of trash!
How mature. Someone doesn't agree with you, and you crumble like the flake you are. lol

Why? Because I'm exactly the type of person who intimidates you? lol You're beyond "sad". lol

[www.tglovers.com]

How mature. Someone doesn't agree with you, and you crumble like the flake you are. lol

Why? Because I'm exactly the type of person who intimidates you? lol You're beyond "sad". lol
Girl you are behind a computer....how the hell are you intimidating me? I'm not afraid of text or you. The only thing about you that scares me...would be the misfortune of encountering someone who's actually slept with you or god forbid....sharing a drink. You are grasping at straws and coming up empty handed. You ain't ready for this!


here's another promo....just for you! Enjoy:
YouTube- Do you feel guilty for objectiftying transsexual women - hits a nerve! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXfRp1blVRg)

[youshouldtrythislol]

Oh, please. Every thread I post on gets a ton of traffic. I wouldn't start bitching.

And anyway, you started things off by calling me "sad'. Well I think you're sad, and that Bella is saddest.

All of you prudes who don't like to fuck or watch porn should remember that porn is not about being politically correct. It's about sex. Sex and sexual fantasies are not "correct", thank god.
I never called anyone by name. so i didnt technically start anything.

[Nicole Dupre]

You're obviously intimidated by ALL TS sexworkers, or you wouldn't be making a complete fool of yourself on HA. So you can try to insult me personally all you like, but you're still the faceless troll with the ax to grind and shitty website. lol

[www.tglovers.com]

You're obviously intimidated by ALL TS sexworkers, or you wouldn't be making a complete fool of yourself on HA. So you can try to insult me personally all you like, but you're still the faceless troll with the ax to grind and shitty website. lol
Faceless....but not tasteless.
You stuff a dildo in your ass for money....girl, take a look at your life. You have the unmitigated gall to talk trash about anyone. You are the lowest of the low. In all honesty...I feel bad for you.

Oh and by the way: www.tglovers.com (lol)

[Jericho]

Oh and by the way: www.tglovers.com (http://www.tglovers.com) (lol)

I gotta ask, whom here, are you actually promoting your site to?
The guys, the hookers, who...?

[Nicole Dupre]

Faceless....but not tasteless.
You stuff a dildo in your ass for money....girl, take a look at your life. You have the unmitigated gall to talk trash about anyone. You are the lowest of the low. In all honesty...I feel bad for you.

Oh and by the way: www.tglovers.com (lol)
Bitch, I stuff dildos in my ass BECAUSE IT FEELS ALMOST AS GOOD AS A BIG COCK. lol

Werq it out, Anthony B. Susan. ;)

[www.tglovers.com]

Bitch, I stuff dildos in my ass BECAUSE IT FEELS ALMOST AS GOOD AS A BIG COCK. lol

Werq it out, Anthony B. Susan. ;)
I'm sure the dildo.....probably feels differently. So I'm here to speak on its behalf.

Feel free to werq it out also, Sir Stuff-a-Lot.

Oh...b4 I 4 get: www.tglovers.com (lol)

[Nicole Dupre]

I'm sure the dildo.....probably feels differently. So I'm here to speak on its behalf.

Feel free to werq it out also, Sir Stuff-a-Lot.

Oh...b4 I 4 get: www.tglovers.com (lol)
Yes, let's not forget the shittiest excuse for a TS site online today. No nudes, just prudes.

[www.tglovers.com]

Yes, let's not forget the shittiest excuse for a TS site online today. No nudes, just prudes.
Girl.....you can come for www.tglovers.com (http://www.tglovers.com) all you want. You get paid to suck and fuck random dicks....it gets no "shittier" than that. I'm sure your family must be proud that you grew up to be a professional cock-sucker. Class act!

I wonder what you obituary will read: Here lies Nicole Dupre, she was a proud cock sucker. The only people in attendance will probably be from the CDC as they will have to quarantine the entire venue.

Almost for got: www.tglovers.com

[Nicole Dupre]

I gotta ask, whom here, are you actually promoting your site to?
The guys, the hookers, who...?
It's lame. It's pretty much her paraphrasing whatever sensationalized online news articles she finds fascinating, and a bunch pf awkward tranny chasers who are too cheap and/or poor to get a real provider. SAD. lol

[www.tglovers.com]

I gotta ask, whom here, are you actually promoting your site to?
The guys, the hookers, who...?
Anyone who's looking to meet transsexuals in not so hyper-sexualized environment

[Nicole Dupre]

Girl.....you can come for www.tglovers.com (http://www.tglovers.com) all you want. You get paid to suck and fuck random dicks....it gets no "shittier" than that. I'm sure your family must be proud that you grew up to be a professional cock-sucker. Class act!

I wonder what you obituary will read: Here lies Nicole Dupre, she was a proud cock sucker. The only people in attendance will probably be from the CDC as they will have to quarantine the entire venue.

Almost for got: www.tglovers.com
Oh I'm sure your family is proud of your headless body babbling about what TS escorts and their tricks might be up to. You're very learned and scholarly. lol

But I don't live to impress anyone's parents, or their waterhead babies when they grow up. lol

[www.tglovers.com]

It's lame. It's pretty much her paraphrasing whatever sensationalized online news articles she finds fascinating, and a bunch pf awkward tranny chasers who are too cheap and/or poor to get a real provider. SAD. lol
So unless a guy is paying he's a tranny-chaser? Any guy with a genuine interest in a non working girl is a tranny-chaser. You've been hurt....poor baby. Lets talk about it? Who did it?

On a side note.....this was a thread that was about objectifying transsexuals and you've turned into a promotional vehicle for my site. Thank you so much. I owe you lunch.

Just for you my love: www.tglovers.com (http://www.tglovers.com)

[Nicole Dupre]

Newsflash! Your members ARE looking for TS escorts! They are approaching me about having sessions! LMAO!

Shows how much you know about what they "want". lol

[www.tglovers.com]

Oh I'm sure your family is proud of your headless body babbling about what TS escorts and their tricks might be up to. You're very learned and scholarly. lol

But I don't live to impress anyone's parents, or their waterhead babies when they grow up. lol
Ypu're correct my family is very proud of me. As I own a boutique (which is very successful), a home, several cars and not to mention money in the bank. And just think...I did it all while standing upright.

You've made a mess of your life. You discont Kat Von D. I have an idea for your next tattoo: www.tglovers.com

[www.tglovers.com]

Newsflash! Your members ARE looking for TS escorts! They are approaching me about having sessions! LMAO!

Shows how much you know about what they "want". lol
I don't care if they are.....

I don't have a problem with people escorting....its just not my thing. So if they are propositioning you...get your money. Just let everyone know you met you latest trick on www.tglovers.com.

By the way its so lame.....but your a member. Ooooooh.....the hypocrisy.

[Nicole Dupre]

Ypu're correct my family is very proud of me. As I own a boutique (which is very successful), a home, several cars and not to mention money in the bank. And just think...I did it all while standing upright.

You've made a mess of your life. You discont Kat Von D. I have an idea for your next tattoo: www.tglovers.com
Sorry, but talk is cheap. I don't believe you have several cars, nor do I believe that some rancid boutique is your personal gold mine. Let's see you and your cars, and I'll start posting pics of my STS, my handbags and jewelry.

[Nicole Dupre]

I don't care if they are.....

I don't have a problem with people escorting....its just not my thing. So if they are propositioning you...get your money. Just let everyone know you met you latest trick on www.tglovers.com.

By the way its so lame.....but your a member. Ooooooh.....the hypocrisy.
I don't go to your site, gurl, because those guys are LOSERS. I joined a year ago, and logged in about 3 times. lol Please ban me. lol

[fred41]

You get paid to suck and fuck random dicks....it gets no "shittier" than that.


So then you are just another person on a porn / escort site to tell everyone how wrong they are and that there is no lower job than an escort..(..cause "it gets no shittier than that"..)...

..basically telling people on a site created for them and their assorted clients (be it porn or escorting)..that you respect the girls ..but there is nothing lower than what they do for a living.

You have a right to your opinion...I'm just trying gain a proper perspective of you.

[www.tglovers.com]

Sorry, but talk is cheap. I don't believe you have several cars, nor do I believe that some rancid boutique is your personal gold mine. Let's see you and your cars, and I'll start posting pics of my STS, my handbags and jewelry.
Hoin' for handbags.....sad. You are so desperate for a peek into my life....but you won't get it. I know what I have and why would I need to prove it to you?

The one thing I can prove is that I am not on the internet stuffing my ass with plastic doing tricks for a dollars. GTFOH.....

But before you do....stop by www.tglovers.com

[www.tglovers.com]

So then you are just another person on a porn / escort site to tell everyone how wrong they are and that there is no lower job than an escort..(..cause "it gets no shittier than that"..)...

..basically telling people on a site created for them and their assorted clients (be it porn or escorting)..that you respect the girls ..but there is nothing lower than what they do for a living.

You have a right to your opinion...I'm just trying gain a proper perspective of you.
No thatt comment was exclusive to Ms. Durpi or however you spell her name. I don't care if girls escort. I'm a transsexual. I am well aware that many girls do it. What I have problem with is a tacky, nasty, filthy ho'

[Instrumental]

My post earlier kind of got glossed over but I still don't understand what's inherently wrong about objectifying a person. There is certainly a wrong time and place for it (e.g. in the midst of a completely unrelated conversation, someone asking for nudes or something) but what's wrong with someone posting pictures and enjoying/appreciating them? Especially when the person in the photos is the person posting them. The end of your video says that your main goal in this discussion is to let people understand that transgendered women are not 1 dimensional beings and that's a very good (but to me and I hope most others, obvious) point to make but understanding that does not preclude being able to appreciate their physical beauty by say looking at pictures and such and honestly I think it's good to show that appreciation (who doesn't want to be let known that they look good?) so long as it's in the right setting (I'd definitely say here is a perfect setting for it) and not to the point of making the person being viewed feel uncomfortable.
Anyway, the discussion seems to have gotten waaaay out of hand so maybe I'll just bail out now.

[Nicole Dupre]

No thatt comment was exclusive to Ms. Durpi or however you spell her name. I don't care if girls escort. I'm a transsexual. I am well aware that many girls do it. What I have problem with is a tacky, nasty, filthy ho'
Don't try to backpedal. Your tea is crystal clear.

[BellaBellucci]

IMO, the problem with this argument is that they're both right. :shrug

~BB~

[Nicole Dupre]

My post earlier kind of got glossed over but I still don't understand what's inherently wrong about objectifying a person. There is certainly a wrong time and place for it (e.g. in the midst of a completely unrelated conversation, someone asking for nudes or something) but what's wrong with someone posting pictures and enjoying/appreciating them? Especially when the person in the photos is the person posting them. The end of your video says that your main goal in this discussion is to let people understand that transgendered women are not 1 dimensional beings and that's a very good (but to me and I hope most others, obvious) point to make but understanding that does not preclude being able to appreciate their physical beauty by say looking at pictures and such and honestly I think it's good to show that appreciation (who doesn't want to be let known that they look good?) so long as it's in the right setting (I'd definitely say here is a perfect setting for it) and not to the point of making the person being viewed feel uncomfortable.
Anyway, the discussion seems to have gotten waaaay out of hand so maybe I'll just bail out now.
We're dealing with a mental midget, who thinks fashion shows with anorexic GGs in fake beards are offensive. lol

[www.tglovers.com]

We're dealing with a mental midget, who thinks fashion shows with anorexic GGs in fake beards are offensive. lol
And girls who stuff rubber in their ass for cash!

just for you: www.tglovers.com

[Nicole Dupre]

Hoin' for handbags.....sad. You are so desperate for a peek into my life....but you won't get it. I know what I have and why would I need to prove it to you?

The one thing I can prove is that I am not on the internet stuffing my ass with plastic doing tricks for a dollars. GTFOH.....

But before you do....stop by www.tglovers.com
Uh huh. I knew you were full of shit.

Oh, btw. What university did you attend and graduate from? You know. The one your parents are so damn proud of? And what did you study? You know. Your degree? ;) lol

[www.tglovers.com]

Uh huh. I knew you were full of shit.

Oh, btw. What university did you attend and graduate from? You know. The one your parents are so damn proud of? And what did you study? You know. Your degree? ;) lol
Just know that I didn't graduate from the school of hard knocks....like yourself and that I didn't get a degree in ho-ology. Feel free to hypothesize but while you're doing it....stop by www.tglovers.com

[Nicole Dupre]

All of those cars, a boutique, but no education?

[www.tglovers.com]

All of those cars, a boutique, but no education?
About as much education as it takes to stuff a dildo in your ass for a buck. I have everything you wish you had. And I have www.tglovers.com (lol)

[Nicole Dupre]

Sure. We believe you. lol ;)

[www.tglovers.com]

Sure. We believe you. lol ;)
Thanks because I value your opinion soooo much. I have to go bed, so I can be up in the morning to open my pretend boutique.

You have fun being used.

Thanks for a fun day...your a blast.

Promise me you will dream of www.tglovers.com

[Nicole Dupre]

No. We value the opinion of some silly bitch who ponders simplistic bullshit with her head cut out of the screen on YouTube. "YOU'RE a blast". lol

[www.tglovers.com]

No. We value the opinion of some silly bitch who ponders simplistic bullshit with her head cut out of the screen on YouTube. "YOU'RE a blast". lol
I'm sure if placed side by side, a headless transsexual with an articulate point of view next to a dildo riding, tattooed freak who pawns her ass, mouth and pathetic penis for cash....my opinion will be the more valuable.

I'll be sure to say a prayer for you tonight. It will go something like this: Please God, let the tricks be bountiful for Nicole. She's a whore...who needs to buy handbags.

What dummy would sell their body to buy tattoos and handbags? Sad. Now I really do have to go to bed. You've been thoroughly entertaining. Thank you for all of the attention once again. Let me know when you want me to buy you that free lunch. Lord knows you've earned it.

Nicole loves www.tglovers.com (http://www.tglovers.com)

[Nicole Dupre]

Bitch, I already have PLENTY of REAL handbags. Don't hate, you headless under-sexed dummy. lol

The tip of the iceberg...

http://www.nikki-dupre.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/My-LVs-Guccis.jpg

Next is a Birkin bag. :party:

[hippifried]

To answer the original question: No.

[Nicole Dupre]

To answer the original question: No.
Wait a second. I thought you were a damn hippie. ;)

j/k xo

[giovanni_hotel]

If tglovers was serious about her shit, would she really even log on to site like HA?? If she's so superior, so successful, so above-it-all and consumed with pity for the lost souls on HA, why is she trolling for new members on her own site by constantly posting insulting, juvenile, nonsense discussion topics on HA??

If you don't like to drink, don't go to bars. If escorts/porn/patrons skeeve you out so much, don't come here. Free country, free (so far) internet, so do us a favor and exercise that free will and BOUNCE.

You don't see me signed in as a member at Stormfront wondering why the White folks on that site are so racist. Because that would be STOOPID.

Are the dots connecting in your brain, hon??

Tglover is the only one that I can see who's degrading and insulting other TGs on HA by calling sex workers 'whores', 'freak', etc.

Yet she claims to be sooo sensitive to the arduous plight of her transgendered sisters.

Here's the problem; it bugs tglover to no end that her uplifting, pro-transgendered, self-empowering TG site can't beg people to join, yet HA is the #1 TG forum on the interwebz.

This gives tglover great offense and consternation, so whenever she posts a discussion topic on HA, she passively attacks the entire site of both admirers and transgendered women.

Because surely her site has more inherent moral value than HA, right?? Tglovers.com must be more social redeeming than a porn cesspool like HA? All HA has is johns and tricks and porn and STDs, yet the boys still come running, and hang around to do more than just look at the pics.

Tglover has driven herself to frustration by attempting to deconstruct the appeal of a site that at the same time makes her ashamed to be TG.

Don't hate. Participate.

If not, step your high and mighty behind back to tglovers.com.

From the heart.

69 on my mind,
G-H

[Nicole Dupre]

If tglovers was serious about her shit, would she really even log on to site like HA?? If she's so superior, so successful, so above-it-all and consumed with pity for the lost souls on HA, why is she trolling for new members on her own site by constantly posting insulting, juvenile, nonsense discussion topics on HA??

If you don't like to drink, don't go to bars. If escorts/porn/patrons skeeve you out so much, don't come here. Free country, free (so far) internet, so do us a favor and exercise that free will and BOUNCE.

You don't see me signed in as a member at Stormfront wondering why the White folks on that site are so racist. Because that would be STOOPID.

Are the dots connecting in your brain, hon??

Tglover is the only one that I can see who's degrading and insulting other TGs on HA by calling sex workers 'whores', 'freak', etc.

Yet she claims to be sooo sensitive to the arduous plight of her transgendered sisters.

Here's the problem; it bugs tglover to no end that her uplifting, pro-transgendered, self-empowering TG site can't beg people to join, yet HA is the #1 TG forum on the interwebz.

This gives tglover great offense and consternation, so whenever she posts a discussion topic on HA, she passively attacks the entire site of both admirers and transgendered women.

Because surely her site has more inherent moral value than HA, right?? Tglovers.com must be more social redeeming than a porn cesspool like HA? All HA has is johns and tricks and porn and STDs, yet the boys still come running, and hang around to do more than just look at the pics.

Tglover has driven herself to frustration by attempting to deconstruct the appeal of a site that at the same time makes her ashamed to be TG.

Don't hate. Participate.

If not, step you high and mighty behind back to tglovers.com.

From the heart.

69 on my mind,
G-H
I tried giving both her and her shitty site an honest chance. But, more and more, you start to see her for what she is; an attention whore with absolutely NOTHING interesting to say. But then, add to that her holier than thou 'tude, and she's truly an annoying fucking LOSER. I think this thread really proves it.

[hippifried]

Wait a second. I thought you were a damn hippie. ;)

j/k xo
Well yeah. Free love, no guilt.

(Well... Not so free anymore.)

[traLika]

I don't even know why we're still arguing with tglovers. What can you say to someone who opens a thread with a statement like "I have yet to see a guy on here show ANY level of humanity or respect for transgendered women" when everybody here knows that many threads in the General Discussion forum contain elements that show both humanity and respect.

tglovers has now made 114 posts on HA, almost exclusively on her own threads and clearly hasn’t read much else on the site. And yet she feels she’s entitled to make judgements about all of those threads she hasn’t even read and pass a one dimensional verdict based on her own limited perception.

tglovers, you describe yourself as an “intelligent, self made, independent, successful and might I add stunning....transsexual.” Well, I’ve got bad news for you - you are a retard. Your opinion is delusional, misinformed and worthless. You are - and I suspect always will be - an overopinionated nobody.

[www.tglovers.com]

I tried giving both her and her shitty site an honest chance. But, more and more, you start to see her for what she is; an attention whore with absolutely NOTHING interesting to say. But then, add to that her holier than thou 'tude, and she's truly an annoying fucking LOSER. I think this thread really proves it.
Give me a chance? Bitch are you serious? How about you give yourself a "Chance" and get at a real life. Anyone who celebrates stuffing a dildo up their ass for cash....is in no place to give anyone a chance. To top it off you have the nerve to post picture of handbags as if that means something.

The handbags on illustrate how sad you are. You are so lost and empty that you have to fill the void with meaningless material objects. You are a sad pathetic individual who put so much paint on her body that you look like a fuckin' Skittle with eyes.

You and the rest of the porn addicts have said everything in your power to discredit and the bottom line is your world is an empty one. /as far as girls who escort as I said before....I don't have an issue with it....you do!

Why else would you be so defensive? I never attacked anyone. Fro the very beginning, I asked Do you feel guilty for objectifying transsexual women. Apparently some of you do not know the definition of objectification because if you did....you would see that my question is a valid on for this forum.

A few guws chimed in and said things like, "No", "Nope", "Sometimes" etc...etc...and left the thread. All of sudden out of no where It became not about the question and about me. "She's just here to promote her site". No shit Sherlock. I am here to promote my site but I never made mention of it in this thread. But when there's was no viable argument for the question, it quickly turned into a witch hunt.


After everyone kept saying "She's here to promote her site", I figured....ok...let me promote my site. Understand this: I could care less about anyone joining my site. My social network are recreational. So join or don't join. Its really no skin off my back.

I could care less about girls who escort or working in porn. What consenting adults do...is their business. But in my opinion everyone should always be challenging themselves to be a better person. Not every girl who works as an escort wants to be an escort for the rest of their life.

Some girls like you Nicol, set the bar for their lives pretty low. A few handbags, a tattoo over the entire torso and you've arrived. So I applaud you on making it. What really gets me is how angry you seem at girls who are not escorts? Why is that if we chose to work a non sex related job, in your eyes we are relegated to being altruistic do-gooders?

So if the question I asked stirred up this much emotion....I feel quite accomplished.

[www.tglovers.com]

I don't even know why we're still arguing with tglovers. What can you say to someone who opens a thread with a statement like "I have yet to see a guy on here show ANY level of humanity or respect for transgendered women" when everybody here knows that many threads in the General Discussion forum contain elements that show both humanity and respect.

tglovers has now made 114 posts on HA, almost exclusively on her own threads and clearly hasn’t read much else on the site. And yet she feels she’s entitled to make judgements about all of those threads she hasn’t even read and pass a one dimensional verdict based on her own limited perception.

tglovers, you describe yourself as an “intelligent, self made, independent, successful and might I add stunning....transsexual.” Well, I’ve got bad news for you - you are a retard. Your opinion is delusional, misinformed and worthless. You are - and I suspect always will be - an overopinionated nobody.
You're a pig....go black and play in the pen. Your opinion is worthless. Enough said....next!

[rockabilly]

You're a pig....go black and play in the pen. Your opinion is worthless. Enough said....next!

But tgl once he "goes black" he'll never go back. :wiggle: lol

[www.tglovers.com]

If tglovers was serious about her shit, would she really even log on to site like HA?? If she's so superior, so successful, so above-it-all and consumed with pity for the lost souls on HA, why is she trolling for new members on her own site by constantly posting insulting, juvenile, nonsense discussion topics on HA??

If you don't like to drink, don't go to bars. If escorts/porn/patrons skeeve you out so much, don't come here. Free country, free (so far) internet, so do us a favor and exercise that free will and BOUNCE.

You don't see me signed in as a member at Stormfront wondering why the White folks on that site are so racist. Because that would be STOOPID.

Are the dots connecting in your brain, hon??

Tglover is the only one that I can see who's degrading and insulting other TGs on HA by calling sex workers 'whores', 'freak', etc.

Yet she claims to be sooo sensitive to the arduous plight of her transgendered sisters.

Here's the problem; it bugs tglover to no end that her uplifting, pro-transgendered, self-empowering TG site can't beg people to join, yet HA is the #1 TG forum on the interwebz.

This gives tglover great offense and consternation, so whenever she posts a discussion topic on HA, she passively attacks the entire site of both admirers and transgendered women.

Because surely her site has more inherent moral value than HA, right?? Tglovers.com must be more social redeeming than a porn cesspool like HA? All HA has is johns and tricks and porn and STDs, yet the boys still come running, and hang around to do more than just look at the pics.

Tglover has driven herself to frustration by attempting to deconstruct the appeal of a site that at the same time makes her ashamed to be TG.

Don't hate. Participate.

If not, step your high and mighty behind back to tglovers.com.

From the heart.

69 on my mind,
G-H
What are you talking about? Sometimes its better to close your mouth and be thought of as a fool, than to speak up and remove all doubt. Why do you guys keep talking about www.tglovers.com. You say I'm the one promotion but you guys are the ones who keep constantly bringing it up.

I've said it several times during this thread. Let me say it one more time and hopefully this time you will here it: I am here to promote my site!.

Are we clear on that? Can we move on?

My site is a small site so this what is done. We've all been on the internet, you know how the game goes. You go around to various sites and promote yours. Its nothing new. Am I ashamed of promoting my site?...not at all.

So that being said, please find a new angle because this one is getting old.

As far as your "bar" analogy goes: Most bars cut people off after they've had too much to drink. Maybe you're too drunk on porn to see the error of your ways?

[Nicole Dupre]

Give me a chance? Bitch are you serious? How about you give yourself a "Chance" and get at a real life. Anyone who celebrates stuffing a dildo up their ass for cash....is in no place to give anyone a chance. To top it off you have the nerve to post picture of handbags as if that means something.

The handbags on illustrate how sad you are. You are so lost and empty that you have to fill the void with meaningless material objects. You are a sad pathetic individual who put so much paint on her body that you look like a fuckin' Skittle with eyes.

You and the rest of the porn addicts have said everything in your power to discredit and the bottom line is your world is an empty one. /as far as girls who escort as I said before....I don't have an issue with it....you do!

Why else would you be so defensive? I never attacked anyone. Fro the very beginning, I asked Do you feel guilty for objectifying transsexual women. Apparently some of you do not know the definition of objectification because if you did....you would see that my question is a valid on for this forum.

A few guws chimed in and said things like, "No", "Nope", "Sometimes" etc...etc...and left the thread. All of sudden out of no where It became not about the question and about me. "She's just here to promote her site". No shit Sherlock. I am here to promote my site but I never made mention of it in this thread. But when there's was no viable argument for the question, it quickly turned into a witch hunt.


After everyone kept saying "She's here to promote her site", I figured....ok...let me promote my site. Understand this: I could care less about anyone joining my site. My social network are recreational. So join or don't join. Its really no skin off my back.

I could care less about girls who escort or working in porn. What consenting adults do...is their business. But in my opinion everyone should always be challenging themselves to be a better person. Not every girl who works as an escort wants to be an escort for the rest of their life.

Some girls like you Nicol, set the bar for their lives pretty low. A few handbags, a tattoo over the entire torso and you've arrived. So I applaud you on making it. What really gets me is how angry you seem at girls who are not escorts? Why is that if we chose to work a non sex related job, in your eyes we are relegated to being altruistic do-gooders?

So if the question I asked stirred up this much emotion....I feel quite accomplished.You're not an "altruistic do-gooder". I just said above, you're an attention whore. lol

And your site sucks. Sorry. lol

Oh, I'm also sorry that I own so many nice things. I'm sorry I just spent over 2K yesterday at the David Yurman counter in Bloomingdales, even with the 20% off sale. Sorry. Ok? lol

[www.tglovers.com]

You're not an "altruistic do-gooder". I just said above, you're an attention whore. lol

And your site sucks. Sorry. lol

Oh, I'm also sorry that I own so many nice things. I'm sorry I just spent over 2K yesterday at the David Yurman counter in Bloomingdales, even with the 20% off sale. Sorry. Ok? lol
While you spent....I earned and saved. We have different philosophies on money and life. If spending money at Bloomingdales makes you feel better....by all means its your money...you "EARNED" it.

How about the next time your out buying a bag....you pick a a portfolio. A diversified portfolio, with a little bit of hedge funds, mutual funds, stocks, bonds and a high interest yielding savings account.

You really are lost. The more you speak....the more clueless, I realize you are. You need to be at Walmart trying to save a few bucks for your I'm an over the hill hooker, retirement plan.

[Nicole Dupre]

Is the headless dummy still babbling about her "several cars"? lol

Great "investment" btw. Cars always go up in value. lol

[www.tglovers.com]

Is the headless dummy still babbling about her "several cars"? lol

Great "investment" btw. Cars always go up in value. lol
You are correct they do not go up in value but the get me to and from work. Of course since you lay on your ass waiting for the phone to ring and hoping some lost soul will wander your way with a couple of extra dollars....you don't have to worry about getting to and from work.

So I can see how you'd feel cars were worthless(lol)

And guess what....one of the cars I own....was purchased for me by my loving boyfriend. And might I add a previous boyfriend bought me a home. you get bags...I get homes. You do the math.

I've had men in my life who have given to me because they love me. You keep fuckin' for bags and lets see who gets to the top 1st.

You are not even close to being in my league. You are disposable.

[giovanni_hotel]

tglover: yall are losers. Please come visit my site. Did I say something wrong??

And don't throw around finance and investment terms if you don't really know what they mean.

'How about the next time your out buying a bag....you pick a a portfolio. A diversified portfolio, with a little bit of hedge funds, mutual funds, stocks, bonds and a high interest yielding savings account.'

This makes very little sense....not surprising, considering the source.

[Nicole Dupre]

Of course you're not my league. You're an uneducated loser on an ego trip via a retarded website. lol I was raised in an environment of attorneys, physicians, investment analysts, engineers, artists, career law enforcement, and career criminals. Money doesn't impress me. I just have some money, and keep making it. And a house? I don't want a house. I like apartments. In fact, I have a beautiful house being left to me that I don't even want or need! lol I drive a 2010 STS and a 2009 Toureg. How many cars do I need? lol

Now tell us more about your sugar daddy and how hard you've worked in life. And I'm still waiting to hear where you went to school. lol

[Nicole Dupre]

Charlina Schwab in da howiss. lol

[Nicole Dupre]

Anyway, this whole charade about "objectifying women" is LATE. Worry about yourself, honey. No one here is impressed. This is a porn forum, loaded with hookers, tits, and cocks. We all like to FUCK. Catch it.

[www.tglovers.com]

Of course you're not my league. You're an uneducated loser on an ego trip via a retarded website. lol I was raised in an environment of attorneys, physicians, investment analysts, engineers, artists, career law enforcement, and career criminals. Money doesn't impress me. I just have some money, and keep making it. And a house? I don't want a house. I like apartments. In fact, I have a beautiful house being left to me that I don't even want or need! lol I drive a 2010 STS and a 2009 Toureg. How many cars do I need? lol

Now tell us more about your sugar daddy and how hard you've worked in life. And I'm still waiting to hear where you went to school. lol
Girl please...you were raised by a pack of wolves....you animal. As far as my sugar daddy goes...he treats me well. You'd be shocked how well men treat you, when they actually respect you.

I know this may come as a surprise to you but some guys will actually take better care of you if they have genuine feelings for you and you for them. But I guess its a hard concept to grasp when the only love you receive, comes courtesy of a silicone dick.

[www.tglovers.com]

Anyway, this whole charade about "objectifying women" is LATE. Worry about yourself, honey. No one here is impressed. This is a porn forum, loaded with hookers, tits, and cocks. We all like to FUCK. Catch it.
The only thing "Late" is those clients who read your reviews and decide not to show up!

[www.tglovers.com]

tglover: yall are losers. Please come visit my site. Did I say something wrong??

And don't throw around finance and investment terms if you don't really know what they mean.

'How about the next time your out buying a bag....you pick a a portfolio. A diversified portfolio, with a little bit of hedge funds, mutual funds, stocks, bonds and a high interest yielding savings account.'

This makes very little sense....not surprising, considering the source.
And neither does tricking but that hasn't stopped you. So why would I let a few typos stop me. The message was still abundantly clear.

[Nicole Dupre]

A "pack of wolves"? lol How many wolves go to Ivy League universities, and pass bar exams or are doctors?

If you have a sugar daddy, you are simply a one-on-one whore. Sorry to burst your bubble, loser. You've earned NOTHING and have NO EDUCATION. Thanks for clearing that all up.

Next! lol

[Nicole Dupre]

Oh, and let's just remind everyone that there is NO NUDITY on this bullshit site of yours, fool. It takes about two minutes to get bored with that waste of cyberspace.

[www.tglovers.com]

A "pack of wolves"? lol How many wolves go to Ivy League universities, and pass bar exams or are doctors?

If you have a sugar daddy, you are simply a one-on-one whore. Sorry to burst your bubble, loser. You've earned NOTHING and have NO EDUCATION. Thanks for clearing that all up.

Next! lol
I never claimed to have a sugar daddy...you did. I said my boyfriend but since you felt compelled to call him a sugar daddy, I decided to ride with you for entertainment purposes.

As far as my education goes....my credentials speak in the real world. I don't feel compelled to run them down to you. You're a professional cock-sucker.

That being said I have to get ready for work. Time for me to open my fictitious boutique and drive my invisible car. Lets hope that I can read the street signs as I clearly lacking an education (lol).

Meanwhile....between sucking cocks, why don't you pick up a book and try to pick up a marketable skill. Maybe you can find a job where they allow you to type and suck cock at the same time?

How does one who was raised in such an illustrious environment wind up a cock sucking Skittle? Nature Vs. Nurture.

[www.tglovers.com]

Oh, and let's just remind everyone that there is NO NUDITY on this bullshit site of yours, fool. It takes about two minutes to get bored with that waste of cyberspace.
Yes...it is nudity free. That way i don't have to worry about logging in to see girls stuffing projectiles up their ass in order to buy purses.

Since you once again are bringing it into the conversation: www.tglovers.com

[Nicole Dupre]

I obviously clocked you for having a sugar daddy. Don't hate. I don't hold it against you. You need one. You're too stuck up to be a regular GF or an escort, and you obviously never went to college or had a real job.

And you have no problem coming here and being exposed to nudity and sex. Why withhold it from the saps on your website?

[goku]

You are correct they do not go up in value but the get me to and from work. Of course since you lay on your ass waiting for the phone to ring and hoping some lost soul will wander your way with a couple of extra dollars....you don't have to worry about getting to and from work.

So I can see how you'd feel cars were worthless(lol)

And guess what....one of the cars I own....was purchased for me by my loving boyfriend. And might I add a previous boyfriend bought me a home. you get bags...I get homes. You do the math.

I've had men in my life who have given to me because they love me. You keep fuckin' for bags and lets see who gets to the top 1st.

You are not even close to being in my league. You are disposable.



TG lovers, you know I have never said an ill word to you on any website, but you just struck a nerve.

Guys don't just objectify TS women, they do so to GGs also. This all started because women, instead of marrying for love, started marrying for materials. So men find it hard to trust, or take women seriously, for fear of being taken to the cleaners.

Fuck falling in love with someone you are attracted to, and are very good friends with, let's settle on the guy who can get you want you want, so YOU don't have to lift a finger for it. You wanna piss off a slew of men, remarking about how your guys bought you things is exactly how to do it.

This is why the world is so fucked up, because women(like yourself) basically become a live in prostitute for the material things that they want in life. You have no idea how much you damage the men you trample on, while collecting your possessions through life. Every one of those guys had aspirations of a REAL relationship, only to find out he had been duped. IMO, that is far worse than anything you could ever do escorting. At least there, the man knows his position.

The venom I spit is out of experience. Below is my first house. Some woman convinced me that we needed it. As soon as we got it.......well, you can guess the rest. I was so proud of that house, and to lose it the way I did was heart breaking. There was no kids involved, and no infidelity.

[Nicole Dupre]

I never claimed to have a sugar daddy...you did. I said my boyfriend but since you felt compelled to call him a sugar daddy, I decided to ride with you for entertainment purposes.

As far as my education goes....my credentials speak in the real world. I don't feel compelled to run them down to you. You're a professional cock-sucker.

That being said I have to get ready for work. Time for me to open my fictitious boutique and drive my invisible car. Lets hope that I can read the street signs as I clearly lacking an education (lol).

Meanwhile....between sucking cocks, why don't you pick up a book and try to pick up a marketable skill. Maybe you can find a job where they allow you to type and suck cock at the same time?

How does one who was raised in such an illustrious environment wind up a cock sucking Skittle? Nature Vs. Nurture.
Oh, btw - actually, jackass, half of my income comes from a completely above-board business, which is still growing. And I actually do have an education and great employment record. I'd put my resume up against yours any day.

You just can't accept that some girls can hack being providers and you can't. We all see that now.

[goku]

I tire of hearing about how men objectify women, when IMO it's the women who 8 out of 10 times do the real damage. Almost all mature men just want a woman they are attracted to, that they can have a friendship with, and will do their best to satisfy them sexually. If we had those things, most of us wouldn't cheat or anything.

What happens in reality is quite the opposite. women go from taking care of themselves, to not giving a shit what you think. They go from giving head without asking religiously, to you finding out that they never really liked it in the first place.

I am sure women have the same complaints, but where it separates is men don't take all your shit when they leave! There are plenty of men on here that feel my pain. Whether it was a house, or just a car, you did something to show your love and commitment, and a woman just took it and ran. Now, the next bitch that came into my life was doomed. Because she got the flawed Goku with all the baggage, and his battle armour on at all times. lol

[www.tglovers.com]

I obviously clocked you for having a sugar daddy. Don't hate. I don't hold it against you. You need one. You're too stuck up to be a regular GF or an escort, and you obviously never went to college or had a real job.

And you have no problem coming here and being exposed to nudity and sex. Why withhold it from the saps on your website?
Because if they want nudity....they can find it here. The internet is chalked full of sites that cater carnal desires.

Unlike you...I happen to believe that transsexuals have more to offer than good heads or tails. So when I created my social network (www.tglovers.com - which you seem to be obsessed with) I wanted to make it forum that wasn't centered around the sexuality of a transgendered woman.

I know this is a getting a little deep for you and all that cock sucking has probably caused your brain to swell but try to stick with me here: I am sexual just like most humans but I don't feel I have to stuff prosthetic penises up my ass in order for men to appreciate me. I have more to offer. Apparebtly you've determined your worth to be associated with the number of clients you can turn in a day. Maybe one day you'll make Guinness for the most cock sucked in a day by a tattooed hooker. I can see that happening for you. You've certainly had enough practice.

As far as a sugar daddy goes: Some of my men have been well to do. That's what I happen to attract. I've also dated guys with very little money. I don't need their money...I earn my own.

How you feel choosing not be an escort make me stuck up...is beyond me. So I am not going to even try to understand it. I'm a transsexual woman, who lives in the real world and not some porno laced parallel universe. Where stuffing dildos up your ass makes you a class act.

[www.tglovers.com]

TG lovers, you know I have never said an ill word to you on any website, but you just struck a nerve.

Guys don't just objectify TS women, they do so to GGs also. This all started because women, instead of marrying for love, started marrying for materials. So men find it hard to trust, or take women seriously, for fear of being taken to the cleaners.

Fuck falling in love with someone you are attracted to, and are very good friends with, let's settle on the guy who can get you want you want, so YOU don't have to lift a finger for it. You wanna piss off a slew of men, remarking about how your guys bought you things is exactly how to do it.

This is why the world is so fucked up, because women(like yourself) basically become a live in prostitute for the material things that they want in life. You have no idea how much you damage the men you trample on, while collecting your possessions through life. Every one of those guys had aspirations of a REAL relationship, only to find out he had been duped. IMO, that is far worse than anything you could ever do escorting. At least there, the man knows his position.

The venom I spit is out of experience. Below is my first house. Some woman convinced me that we needed it. As soon as we got it.......well, you can guess the rest. I was so proud of that house, and to lose it the way I did was heart breaking. There was no kids involved, and no infidelity.
I live alone....in my own home. So how you come to the conclusion that i am a live in prostitute is beyond me. I have never lived with a man. I've had situations were the man I was dating lived with me but never in reverse.

Sorry that happened to you but you are way....off base on this one. I take care of me...no one else does.

[www.tglovers.com]

I tire of hearing about how men objectify women, when IMO it's the women who 8 out of 10 times do the real damage. Almost all mature men just want a woman they are attracted to, that they can have a friendship with, and will do their best to satisfy them sexually. If we had those things, most of us wouldn't cheat or anything.

What happens in reality is quite the opposite. women go from taking care of themselves, to not giving a shit what you think. They go from giving head without asking religiously, to you finding out that they never really liked it in the first place.

I am sure women have the same complaints, but where it separates is men don't take all your shit when they leave! There are plenty of men on here that feel my pain. Whether it was a house, or just a car, you did something to show your love and commitment, and a woman just took it and ran. Now, the next bitch that came into my life was doomed. Because she got the flawed Goku with all the baggage, and his battle armour on at all times. lol
Every single man that has given to me....I've given in return. Because I have dated some well to do gentleman they were able to give gifts that were probably of a greater monetary value than what i was capable of giving to them but I still gave.

I don't believe in one sided relationships as evident by one of the videos on my channel. I think you have me all wrong but you don't know me so I can undestand how you would get it wrong.

YouTube- WHAT MAN WANTS A WOMAN WITH HER HAND ALWAYS STUCK OUT? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9G2m_qzRCE)

[bte]

I don't even know why we're still arguing with tglovers. What can you say to someone who opens a thread with a statement like "I have yet to see a guy on here show ANY level of humanity or respect for transgendered women" when everybody here knows that many threads in the General Discussion forum contain elements that show both humanity and respect.

tglovers has now made 114 posts on HA, almost exclusively on her own threads and clearly hasn’t read much else on the site. And yet she feels she’s entitled to make judgements about all of those threads she hasn’t even read and pass a one dimensional verdict based on her own limited perception.

tglovers, you describe yourself as an “intelligent, self made, independent, successful and might I add stunning....transsexual.” Well, I’ve got bad news for you - you are a retard. Your opinion is delusional, misinformed and worthless. You are - and I suspect always will be - an overopinionated nobody.

How do you know she is stunning? The only shot we seen is her cleavage.

[www.tglovers.com]

How do you know she is stunning? The only shot we seen is her cleavage.
And that is the only shot you will see. My face has nothing to do with the message. I'm headless so you can feel free to place to face of transsexual you'd like on my torso and imagine the words coming from her mouth.

That's why I'm headless. Isn't about me....its about the message.

[goku]

I live alone....in my own home. So how you come to the conclusion that i am a live in prostitute is beyond me.

"And guess what....one of the cars I own....was purchased for me by my loving boyfriend. And might I add a previous boyfriend bought me a home. you get bags...I get homes. You do the math.

I've had men in my life who have given to me because they love me. You keep fuckin' for bags and lets see who gets to the top 1st.

You are not even close to being in my league. You are disposable. "





"Girl please...you were raised by a pack of wolves....you animal. As far as my sugar daddy goes...he treats me well. You'd be shocked how well men treat you, when they actually respect you." - TG lovers



Above are the two posts that pissed me off. You probably mean well, but having a sugardaddy is basically prostitution. More power to you if that's what you wanna do, but if you really wanna be righteous, then give back the gifts, and completely do things on your own. I am not siding in this battle with you and Nicole, as I don't know her, nor have we ever spoken. Those things you said just struck a nerve. I would rather a woman escort, than use a man who probably cares for her, to sustain her life comforts.

[bte]

I think you show your cleavage as a way to invite guys in to hear your point of view, because they wouldn't if you didn't.

[www.tglovers.com]

"And guess what....one of the cars I own....was purchased for me by my loving boyfriend. And might I add a previous boyfriend bought me a home. you get bags...I get homes. You do the math.

I've had men in my life who have given to me because they love me. You keep fuckin' for bags and lets see who gets to the top 1st.

You are not even close to being in my league. You are disposable. "





"Girl please...you were raised by a pack of wolves....you animal. As far as my sugar daddy goes...he treats me well. You'd be shocked how well men treat you, when they actually respect you." - TG lovers



Above are the two posts that pissed me off. You probably mean well, but having a sugardaddy is basically prostitution. More power to you if that's what you wanna do, but if you really wanna be righteous, then give back the gifts, and completely do things on your own. I am not siding in this battle with you and Nicole, as I don't know her, nor have we ever spoken. Those things you said just struck a nerve. I would rather a woman escort, than use a man who probably cares for her, to sustain her life comforts.
Lets agree to disagree. I happen to believe that when you're in a relationship its okay to do nice things for the person you care about.

As far as Nicole goes....you go back and read the thread and you see who started all this. I wasn't the one who initiated it. I'm the one who didn't back down.

As I said before...I feel bad for you that you were taken advantage of but not all women who receive gifts from their men are looking to take advantage of them.

[www.tglovers.com]

I think you show your cleavage as a way to invite guys in to hear your point of view, because they wouldn't if you didn't.

I show it because when I make videos...I am in my attire for the day. If some men like to listen to talking titties....be my guest. But some actually hear the message.

[bte]

I watch your videos and listen to what you have to say, and I even go to your site to read the blogs that you have and comment on a few. I am just saying that aren't you objectifying yourself by showing your breasts on a Youtube video? Instead of people just seeing your face and listen and see you talk about whatever you have to say. To me that is classier [sic] than having a shot of your breasts talking about how men should feel guilty of objectifying transsexuals.

[www.tglovers.com]

I watch your videos and listen to what you have to say, and I even go to your site to read the blogs that you have and comment on a few. I am just saying that aren't you objectifying yourself by showing your breasts on a Youtube video? Instead of people just seeing your face and listen and see you talk about whatever you have to say. To me that is classier [sic] than having a shot of your breasts talking about how men should feel guilty of objectifying transsexuals.
I have breast. I make no apologies for it. If a man is going to ogle over boobies...there's not a lot I can do about it. That's they way I dress. I's a sexy dresser. I never said being sexy was not okay. I asked for balance. I think a sexy woman with a point of view, is balanced.

[Nicole Dupre]

This is how you deliver a message with anonymity.

YouTube- Message to Scientology (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCbKv9yiLiQ)

[bte]

I have breast. I make no apologies for it. If a man is going to ogle over boobies...there's not a lot I can do about it. That's they way I dress. I's a sexy dresser. I never said being sexy was not okay. I asked for balance. I think a sexy woman with a point of view, is balanced.

I agree a sexy woman with a point of view is balanced. I am not asking you to make apologies, hell I don't even want an apology. But you ask if guys feel guilty for objectifying transgender women, when you are objectifying yourself by posting only your breasts while discussing your various view points. You automatically assume that men will ogle over breasts, so you post a video of your breasts instead of posting a video where the primary focus is the message that you trying to convey. Because when I see the video the first thing that I and I am pretty much most guys and some girls focus on is your breasts.

[Nicole Dupre]

I agree a sexy woman with a point of view is balanced. I am not asking you to make apologies, hell I don't even want an apology. But you ask if guys feel guilty for objectifying transgender women, when you are objectifying yourself by posting only your breasts while discussing your various view points. You automatically assume that men will ogle over breasts, so you post a video of your breasts instead of posting a video where the primary focus is the message that you trying to convey. Because when I see the video the first thing that I and I am pretty much most guys and some girls focus on is your breasts.
Praise be to Zombie Jesus, and praise "BOB". lol

[Jericho]

I agree a sexy woman with a point of view is balanced. I am not asking you to make apologies, hell I don't even want an apology. But you ask if guys feel guilty for objectifying transgender women, when you are objectifying yourself by posting only your breasts while discussing your various view points. You automatically assume that men will ogle over breasts, so you post a video of your breasts instead of posting a video where the primary focus is the message that you trying to convey. Because when I see the video the first thing that I and I am pretty much most guys and some girls focus on is your breasts.

Head...Brickwall! :banghead :shrug

[ARMANIXXX]

You know,
I'm very bored now.

Can we at least get one obligatory ass and titties pics please?

[www.tglovers.com]

I agree a sexy woman with a point of view is balanced. I am not asking you to make apologies, hell I don't even want an apology. But you ask if guys feel guilty for objectifying transgender women, when you are objectifying yourself by posting only your breasts while discussing your various view points. You automatically assume that men will ogle over breasts, so you post a video of your breasts instead of posting a video where the primary focus is the message that you trying to convey. Because when I see the video the first thing that I and I am pretty much most guys and some girls focus on is your breasts.
I'm not objectified because...I am in control of what I show and how its shown. Its like asking me why wear open to shoes when a guy has a foot fetish? I shouldn't have to change who what I wear because someone else is perverted. The problem is the pervert.

As I stated earlier....I don't have a problem with sexuality, prostitution or porn. I asked for balanced. Its like I have to be at either end of the spectrum. Sexy and Intelligent cannot coexist?

[Nicole Dupre]

I'm not objectified because...I am in control of what I show and how its shown. Its like asking me why wear open to shoes when a guy has a foot fetish? I shouldn't have to change who what I wear because someone else is perverted. The problem is the pervert.

As I stated earlier....I don't have a problem with sexuality, prostitution or porn. I asked for balanced. Its like I have to be at either end of the spectrum. Sexy and Intelligent cannot coexist?
Girl, if someone disagrees with you, you come unraveled and then become offensive. You are FAR from "balanced".

[fred41]

It's okay (and sometimes really classy ) to turn extremely expensive gifts down..I've seen lots of people do it...accepting them is fine too...but then you can't take credit for "earning them" later on...otherwise there will always be the perception (and perception is important in life) that they were only "earned" one way...and that perception is usually correct regardless of self-rationilization.

[www.tglovers.com]

Girl, if someone disagrees with you, you come unraveled and then become offensive. You are FAR from "balanced".
You have sex with a dildo on the internet for money.... You are not equipped t judge balance. Clearly the only balancing you're accustom to is trying to keep the cock from slipping out of your mouth!

[giovanni_hotel]

What the hell wrong is there with sucking cock?? You keep using the fact that someone fellates another person as some kind of morally superior hammer, which is an odd position to take on HA.

DO you suck dick, tglovers???

[www.tglovers.com]

It's okay (and sometimes really classy ) to turn extremely expensive gifts down..I've seen lots of people do it...accepting them is fine too...but then you can't take credit for "earning them" later on...otherwise there will always be the perception (and perception is important in life) that they were only "earned" one way...and that perception is usually correct regardless of self-rationilization.
This thread has clearly gone in a different direction. What was intended to be an adult conversation about objectification, has turned into a cluster-fuck.

I've turned down gifts, given gifts, received gifts and even re-gifted. What this has to do with the objectification of women...I'm not sure?

[traLika]

Tglovers, do you really think you can sit there on a porn forum with your tits hanging out, sanctimoniously telling us that we should all be ashamed for admiring tgirls and NOT get a negative response?

If you go back to the beginning of his thread, you’ll see that there was just a bunch of us guys politely disagreeing with your ‘sermon’. Your response was to completely ignore several posters’ valid points and give a ‘holier than thou’ attitude to other posters. Nicole is absolutely right: if anyone disagrees with your blinkered views you just can’t handle it!

Oh, and your reply to my last post is priceless: “You're a pig....go black and play in the pen.” Lol!!!! Learn to spell, fucko.

[www.tglovers.com]

What the hell wrong is there with sucking cock?? You keep using the fact that someone fellates another person as some kind of morally superior hammer, which is an odd position to take on HA.

DO you suck dick, tglovers???
Depends on who its attached to. Sucking dick is not the issue, its the lack of discretion. If someone I wasn't attracted to showed up and said "here's a couple dollars suck my dick" I wouldn't do it. For me to have sex...I have to be attracted. I fail to see why that is a bad thing. I don't want to sell my body. I want real relationship. Gifts or no gifts.

Its really just Nicole. I'm disgusted by her.

[www.tglovers.com]

Tglovers, do you really think you can sit there on a porn forum with your tits hanging out, sanctimoniously telling us that we should all be ashamed for admiring tgirls and NOT get a negative response?

If you go back to the beginning of his thread, you’ll see that there was just a bunch of us guys politely disagreeing with your ‘sermon’. Your response was to completely ignore several posters’ valid points and give a ‘holier than thou’ attitude to other posters. Nicole is absolutely right: if anyone disagrees with your blinkered views you just can’t handle it!

Oh, and your reply to my last post is priceless: “You're a pig....go black and play in the pen.” Lol!!!! Learn to spell, fucko.

You got the message. Mission accomplished. Trick bitch!

Not one error!

[Nicole Dupre]

So, in other words, if I've done porn, I don't have valid opinions? Is that what your pea-brains has come up with? lol Girl, your mind is GONE. You flash those jugs on YouTube, babble about nonsense, and you suddenly think you have some moral high ground. lol I love it! LMAO!

[www.tglovers.com]

So, in other words, if I've done porn, I don't have valid opinions? Is that what your pea-brains has come up with? lol Girl, your mind is GONE. You flash those jugs on YouTube, babble about nonsense, and you suddenly think you have some moral high ground. lol I love it! LMAO!
Ms. Thing go back and read this thread.....you were the one who chimed in and attacked me for my opinion. You said something about me trying to be Dr. Phil or whatever... How is that conducive to a healthy dialog? You discounted my opinion because I chose not to work as an adult entertainer.

I'm not sure how you feel you are being victimized. You could have came at me from an angle that was counter to mine but still respectful...you didn't. You chose to be venomous. When I'm attacked...I attack back. When I'm respected....I respect back.

I am open to the opinions of anyone...except someone who's trying to attack me.

[tslvr]

Just my thoughts here: I respect all people as individuals and would love to meet a t-girl and get to know her for who she is and see how things progress from there. And, if she is fully functional and enjoys that part of her body, so much the better.
But, when it comes to girls who escort, I believe if guys are going to pay for it, they do have a right to know what they are buying, i.e., would you be happy to go out and buy a new car and find out after you paid, it has no gas pedal?

[traLika]

You got the message. Mission accomplished. Trick bitch!

Not one error!


Gee, you’re obviously far too clever for me. But then again I forgot you are (in your own words) an “intelligent, self made, independent, successful and might I add stunning....transsexual.” lol

[traLika]

I am open to the opinions of anyone...except someone who's trying to attack me.


If you look at my first post, you will clearly see that I was not attacking you. I was merely disagreeing with you.

You are clearly NOT open to everyone's opinions. Only people who see things YOUR way...