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dancespell98
07-11-2010, 03:13 AM
Some years ago I went to Club Edelweiss (next to Market Dinner) and found a great ass she male. We went to Hellfire and she jacked off three men in a row while everyone watched. We went back to the hotel and I sucked her and fucked her in the ass.

When Club Edelweiss was on 7th Avenue I sucked off 5 she males in a succession in the upstairs room. Vanessa was one of them. She was a Philippine. I miss her and some of the other girls that frequented the place.

I am getting older now but I sucked off a she male that I meet at one of the local parties on Thursdays. She was 21 and from the Bronx.

I hope this brings back memories for Club Edelweiss fans.

bellamy
07-11-2010, 06:53 AM
Yeah that place was great! Easy to pick up a very hot ts. And I never got bothered by girls "working" the crowd.

Helvis2012
07-11-2010, 07:46 AM
What a freak show.

ossumpeiEIEIO
07-11-2010, 01:15 PM
I loved that place, especially when it was on 29th.

I picked up a hottie there and we drove around in an old cadillac and made out at stop lights. We parked in the village and she blew me. I bet she's post op now, she was surely going in that direction.

Detroit
07-11-2010, 05:40 PM
I miss that place, I gave my GF a blow job in the VIP room. She came in my mouth, and the crowd loved it!

Nicole Dupre
07-11-2010, 06:50 PM
I was really trying to get my shit together and get an education during Edelweiss' peak period. (Fat load of good studying fine art did me in retrospect. ;) ) But I knew what was going on there.

NY was sooo different before Giuliani. I know people love the face lift, and the fact that tourism has grown. But Manhattan has lost a TON of it's personality and charm. Some things just do not need to be Disneyfied. True, it being "safer" is great. But it sure as hell did not prevent 9/11, and the economy is less than "stronger than ever" today.

Imo there are four other boroughs that were put on the back burner, as Manhattan was essentially transformed into one big Courtyard by Marriott. lol

JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel
07-11-2010, 07:54 PM
You could go in Edelweiss and see a dude on his knees blowing a chick or go downstairs near the back exit and see a chick blowing a dude, there were soooooooo many hidden spots in there, and what cracks me up most is that had the owner not been an asshole with pricing he could still possibly have that spot open because the money from customers could have payed off the judges that were against him......

Humorously I saw him while parking months ago to walk down to Sunny's club, promoting some half ass event in a bar, I kinda felt bad for him.........

Best silly thing I ever saw in Edelweiss was some guy came in and paid a bbw tranny to dominate him, then he walked around in a skirt and bra for the rest of the night after being treated like a little bitch........... he must have been an asshole to his GG wife and needed to do that to have some sort of release, nonetheless I spit out my heineken during the proceedings

slinky
07-13-2010, 10:18 AM
Some years ago I went to Club Edelweiss (next to Market Dinner) .

I always crack up when i see this or similar. Do y'all think they picked "Edelweiss" out of thin air to name the club because it sounded like a good name for a tranny bar? YGBFKM.

Richctdude
07-13-2010, 03:29 PM
oh the good ole days

yourdaddy
07-13-2010, 04:20 PM
I used to go with A***** the young, blonde Puerto Rican bartender back in the late 90's before they moved from 29th. Years later she went out with Eddie Murphy for a while.

gaffer
07-13-2010, 06:08 PM
I think the name "Edelweiss" came from their first location somewhere in the west 20's or 30's. It was formerly a restaurant and the walls were decorated in alpine murals. This would have been in the late 1980's.

bibtmbill
07-13-2010, 06:52 PM
Yes I remember that place well (ok maybe not so well, more of a haze). I can certainly remember the first time (cause you never forget your first time) but I went with a GG Dominatrix and her CD slave, I remember walking in and feeling like a kid in a candy (cane) store! Spent many a weekend night getting to "know" some of the girls. I went a few times when they moved to the village and while it was good, still the vibe wasn't the same.

I really miss places like that, the parties these days are still excellent (not that I get to many) but they just don't capture that same vibe.

smokeslv
07-15-2010, 12:51 AM
Loved that place... took a while to get to know some of the regulars, but once you did, game on. I would hit Sallys early for a bit (opened at 4pm), drift up to Edelweiss, between the 2 spots, never a night of disappointment...

Helvis2012
07-15-2010, 05:59 AM
Yeah, those were crazy days.....Sally's for happy hour, Eweiss later.....always a scene.
Some of the most insane nights of life were in there.
I liked how it was anything goes.....i remember all the old guys with with razor-stubble, a frumpy skirt on and a purse in one hand and their cock in the other...proof the old saying, "life is weirder than fiction."

Paladin
07-15-2010, 06:23 AM
Sallys and Edelweiss - I remember it too. Too bad i didn't find out about edelweiss until i was only a few months away from moving out of NY...

Helvis2012
07-15-2010, 06:38 AM
Yeah.....looks that kind of scene is gone forever......Eden Underground was wild for a short while recently....but I guess it's over as well.

slinky
07-15-2010, 12:42 PM
Trivia: who tried to burn it down?

snacks35
07-15-2010, 05:03 PM
Was it Michael Alig the former king of NYC club kids who tried to burn it down? Or maybe James St. James from Michael's crew of clubbies??

slinky
07-16-2010, 12:09 AM
bbbbbbbzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...... ..... Wrong answer!!!!!!!!
(unless they tried too and I never heard about it)

dick.john
07-16-2010, 12:49 AM
Are you saying eddie murphy was fucking around with trannies? wow i thought i was one incident. and to think

flabbybody
07-16-2010, 01:06 AM
NowBar on Leroy used to be great on Thursday nights. The girls would come out for smoke breaks around midnight. I used to drive down 7th Ave sometimes just for the show

dc_guy_75
07-16-2010, 01:11 AM
Edelweiss is flower that only grows at high altitudes in the Alps (I know that from Googling the word on Altavista before Google).

I've been to many tranny bars throughout the world, and this was one of the few places where girls often outnumbered guys. The vast majority of the girls were working, and there was a lot of shade and attitude and general sleazyness. Often the pimps would be there, watching the girls from a distance.

The bartenders and the girl(s) to work the door were generally the friendliest (and often prettiest). I remember them more than the patrons.

The bouncers were easily the most surly and thuggish people you've ever seen can meet. Picture football hooligans. In retrospect, understandable.

But the diner was next door was awesome, and being 21 years old and being exposed to the hustle, made me wise beyond my years.

NYC was still in the late stages of shaking off the 1970's malaise then. Its so different now.

El_hefe
07-24-2010, 05:26 AM
Yeah... I went out for a few years with one of the girls that did the door/ tend bar/ etc..., towards the end I got bored with the scene, it seemed more strung out & desperate than I remembered it being on 29 st. Little did I know the entire scene would virtually go away except for some on & off again hook up nights. Too bad. Even Sally's had it's own charm. Now that I'm older there's not much that appeals in the bar scene.

Dino was a jerk, but he was just managing for someone else who dealt strictly on a cash basis, if you get my drift.

West coast back room of the Queen Mary was cool too, but I only got out there a few times.

Shining Star
07-25-2010, 07:25 AM
Edelweiss was the name of the restaurant in Mid-Town/Hearld Square, owned by "Dino".

Events sort of went like this if one can remember:

Dino's restaurant business was dragging, especially at nights (this was the 1980's when that particular area of Mid-Town was still rather gritty, and worse for anyone owning a restaurant or some such business, pretty much shut down by mid-evening and certianly on weekends when the garment center and other companies were closed).

Anywho, Fabric Factory had been chucked out of their weekly bar spot in the West 40's and had moved down to a bar in the West 20's, not far from where the new apartment building and Whole Foods is now.

Dino had heard about the trannie parties and tought it would be a good way to fill his restaurant on the off hours, and actually openly courted some trannies to come to his bar, and thus start attracting a crowd.

In the start things were rather sedate, with girls usually going back and forth between both clubs (Speed Limit and Edelweiss were only Thurs-Sat nights IIRC), and Dino usually let girls in for free.

Then Dino got greedy and saw what was going on, ie; that the girls were working. So he began to raise his cover charges, charging *all* partrons, and even charged girls if they went out and came back later (D realised they often were leaving to turn a date, thus he got his "cut" by charging them another cover fee if they came back).

Eventually Speed Limit closed, and that left Dino's party as the only trannie event in the area. As things got popular he pretty much almost abandoned his daytime restaurant and became infatuated (if that is the proper word), with the trannie scene, more to the point the money he could make.

As often the case, things got out of control and the area sound Edelweiss began to resemble a trannie stroll on party nights. Complaint from area residents piled up, raids and local street action by the NYPD (they were literally based around the corner), so one thing led to another and Dino moved his action to the Westside location.

Things continued on as before, only getting more out of hand, with again area residents complaining and so forth. More raids, shutdowns etc.. Each time however Dino was able to go to court and plead not only didn't he know what the trannies were doing in his club, but that he had no control over such things.

Finally NYPD and NYC had enough and set up what has to go down as the biggest trannie bar sting/bust in NYC history. The place was under NYP watch for months, and when the raid finally happened, am told when the lights went on there were more LE officers (undercover of course), in the bar than trannies/patrons.

FWIU it took ages to process everyone in the club, and most everyone went "downtown" especially those without proper ID. Many of the girls already had open cases/records/warrants which didn't help matters. As for the guys in the club, they went downtown as well, which lead to some rather interesting telephone calls one has no doubt. Often guys going to such places leave their ID/wallets in their cars, well (again from what one heard), the Po-Po wasn't letting anyone go anywhere to get anything. So if you didn't have ID on you, you was going ....

In the end enough undercover evidence ws collected to convict and send Dino away for awhile. This is why he can longer obtain a liquour license and upon his release tried to start "Edelweiss" again, however renting space in another bar using their license.

When Edelweiss first started out is really was nice place to go for a drink hang, and hang out. But as the scene became more and more of a stroll/hardcore, lots of both trannies and guys stopped going.

Last time one went, the place had been raided and couldn't serve drinks, but the bartenders had a "stash" and were offering that. Only went because we drove past on the way from Roxy and one of the trannies I was rolling with simply *had* to go in for some reason, otherwise one wouldn't a have bothered, much less pay good money for the cover charge.

Anywho, whilst standing near the front bar upstairs (waiting for aforementioned "friend", some trannie tried to pick this guy's pocket and he caught her. A fight broke out and the trannie pulled a knife. That was it for me! Found my friend and told her I was rolling and if she wasn't coming, she could make her way home the best way she know how.

ossumpeiEIEIO
07-25-2010, 12:36 PM
It did turn into a stroll, that was part of the attraction.

Damn, I picked up some hotties in front of the place on 29th.

joanne_sven
10-12-2011, 01:01 AM
It is difficult to judge what Edelweiss represented to a lot of people. But it's a straight shot for law enforcement to judge that the only component it represented socially speaking was drugs, selling booze without a license, prostitution and other illegal activities. From a patron's perspective, I may have lucky, because during the days I used to go there, I found a lot of dates who were out to find a match, a lover, and purely go on with their lives and maybe get married. I went out so many time with Octavia, a Hawaiian beauty out of this world, and I actually planned to get a divorce, but then came my first child, and I dropped out of the scene for obvious reasons. On the other hand, you had Sandra, a nasty bitch whose only love was the money. I used to tease her and tell her that she'd date me for love only and she insulted me several times. I never connected the dots with drug thing, because I never needed drugs to get high and never even tried anything at all, not even a joint. So when when I read stuff about Nino or whatever the owner's name was on the Daily News, I stopped going there because I knew the place was gonna be busted.

TrannyStripperParty
10-12-2011, 03:46 AM
I remember the Edelweiss days very well when was next to the Diner. I have watched those girls go from being a dragqueen to a tranny. I am still friends with alot of them. Some of the girls are still around and even come to my "Tranny Strip" party on Sundays. Like Zoie, Josie, Sandy Michelle, Gina Germaine, Portia, Miss Pearl, Jened, Joesephine, Afrika, Monica House of Field, Abby, Jessica Foxx, Ebonee Excell etc...

I hope everyone is happy with the NEW Transsexual Party "Tranny Strip" that I have started here in NYC. The party has become a hit and a sensation. The owner Dino was very brave to do what he did in running a drag / TS bar/ club. Too bad the place isn't still around but it will be legendary to the people that had been there before and share stories with one another.

I welcome everyone to my "Tranny Strip" party ....gays, straights, bi-sexuals, cross dressers, transsexuals, lesbians and drag queens. And YES we have had all the above there every week. With no problems about everyone getting along.

"Tranny Strip" EVERY SUNDAY!!!!!
New York City's FIRST Transsexual Stripper Party!!

PACKED EVERY SUNDAY!!!

Party from 9pm to 4am

Lap Dances
Over 30 TS Strippers
Champagne Room
Weekly TS Porn Star Appearnces
Weekly Shows
Bachelor Parties
Birthday Parties

Evolve
9pm to 4am
221 East 58th Street Between 2-3 Ave.
** Outdoor Patio in back of Evolve where you can smoke and drink.

Men $25 for admission
Girls $15 for admission (Non-Strippers)
Lap Dances $20 PER SONG! In the Champagne Room.
* Prices subject to change on special events


Please take a look at my website for weekly information on the party and pics of the featured dancers: www.TrannyStrip.com

canihavu
10-12-2011, 03:53 AM
Are you saying eddie murphy was fucking around with trannies? wow i thought i was one incident. and to think


Nah I have had a few trannies tell me Eddie Murphy stories when I used to hang out Edelwiess back in the day. Damn Sally and Edelwiess oh how I used to spendmy time, lol.

blakpadi
10-12-2011, 03:55 AM
I was 21 at the time-went home with Dana Douglas one night -she lived a few blocks away,think her boyfriend was upstairs...

Icanthelpmyself
10-12-2011, 05:59 AM
I can't say I was at Edelweiss but I sure remember Sally's! I remember the mid 80's early 90's I go to the peep booth on the 42st and get all horny then go to Sally's cover charge 10 bucks some of the girls their were so hot I want to just suck all of them. I had alot of my fantasies forfilled, I'm married now still get the eager to hit the clubs but live to far, wish they had some of those clubs upstate.

Paladin
10-12-2011, 06:45 AM
I loved that place, especially when it was on 29th.

I picked up a hottie there and we drove around in an old cadillac and made out at stop lights. We parked in the village and she blew me. I bet she's post op now, she was surely going in that direction.

Hey, I have an old Cadillac! I actually have 4 (but only 1 is old).

but i didn't have it back then - no way - NYC is death on autos...

ILuvFetish
10-23-2011, 05:28 AM
I remember the Edelweiss days very well when was next to the Diner. I have watched those girls go from being a dragqueen to a tranny. I am still friends with alot of them. Some of the girls are still around and even come to my "Tranny Strip" party on Sundays. Like Zoie, Josie, Sandy Michelle, Gina Germaine, Portia, Miss Pearl, Jened, Joesephine, Afrika, Monica House of Field, Abby, Jessica Foxx, Ebonee Excell etc...

I hope everyone is happy with the NEW Transsexual Party "Tranny Strip" that I have started here in NYC. The party has become a hit and a sensation. The owner Dino was very brave to do what he did in running a drag / TS bar/ club. Too bad the place isn't still around but it will be legendary to the people that had been there before and share stories with one another.

I welcome everyone to my "Tranny Strip" party ....gays, straights, bi-sexuals, cross dressers, transsexuals, lesbians and drag queens. And YES we have had all the above there every week. With no problems about everyone getting along.

"Tranny Strip" EVERY SUNDAY!!!!!
New York City's FIRST Transsexual Stripper Party!!

PACKED EVERY SUNDAY!!!

Party from 9pm to 4am

Lap Dances
Over 30 TS Strippers
Champagne Room
Weekly TS Porn Star Appearnces
Weekly Shows
Bachelor Parties
Birthday Parties

Evolve
9pm to 4am
221 East 58th Street Between 2-3 Ave.
** Outdoor Patio in back of Evolve where you can smoke and drink.

Men $25 for admission
Girls $15 for admission (Non-Strippers)
Lap Dances $20 PER SONG! In the Champagne Room.
* Prices subject to change on special events


Please take a look at my website for weekly information on the party and pics of the featured dancers: www.TrannyStrip.com (http://www.TrannyStrip.com)

You said some of the girls from back then, come to your Sunday night party.
Is Josie a girl from back in Edelweiss days who had blonde hair, and I believe moved to Miami the Josie you were referring to.

ILuvFetish
10-23-2011, 05:36 AM
I remember before Edelweiss and Sally's going to the GG Knickerbocker Room with the trapeze dancers

jjhill
10-23-2011, 05:19 PM
You said some of the girls from back then, come to your Sunday night party.
Is Josie a girl from back in Edelweiss days who had blonde hair, and I believe moved to Miami the Josie you were referring to.

I'm wondering the same thing.

yourdaddy
10-23-2011, 09:10 PM
She and Eddie were an item for a month or so while he was in town filming. He gave her 15 grand cash one time just for fun.

ILuvFetish
10-24-2011, 03:24 AM
I'm wondering the same thing.

Do you know her also?
She lived on Long Island for awhile

tgurlzynj
05-14-2023, 11:30 AM
Trivia: who tried to burn it down?


it was another transsexual girl named Stefani she poured gasoline throughout the bar but forgot the matches 🔥 we were watching her do this and wondering she was pouring water or wine everywhere not knowing it was actually gasoline (until the smell hit us and everyone was evacuated)

dangerdog17
05-16-2023, 05:28 AM
has anyone heard from my favorite EDELWEISS bartender CRYSTAL / XETA ?
she worked at the front bar of the club and hasn’t been heard of since 😞
Any info on her ?

tgurlzynj
05-16-2023, 12:01 PM
I arrived in NYC on a Greyhound bus from TEXAS (the day after high school graduation) 🚌 .
Was robbed at Port Authority and was directed to a homeless youth shelter .
I was a feminine presenting boy who met a trans girl who arrived in NYC as well (a month earlier) .
She and I became fast friends and she knew I needed money so she suggested I dress up and head down to the hoe stroll with her the next night .
I slipped into my first trashy dress and slipped my feet into stilletos that surprisingly felt comfortable 👠 .
The next night came and my gf gave me a tour of the landscape .
Dozens of trans girls along the block of 44th between 10th and 11th Ave .
As we reached the end of the block on 11th Ave I found myself drawn to a club .
This club had music pumping and some of the most beautiful transsexuals I ever seen going in and out .
I literally stood there on the corner for a good couple minutes watching the ladies intice and disappear into cab with random gentlemen .
As I approached the square shaped building there it was CLUB EDELWEISS 🍺 .
Little did I know how this dank gritty looking bar would forever change my life 🌟 .
°°° TO BE CONTINUED °°°

Looking 4 Now
05-16-2023, 02:47 PM
My first time was 1994. I stood outside and was a little neverous, I was watching a ton of people walk
into this tiny bar. I finally walked in and the place was pretty empty, where were all the people.
I walked down a stairway and my mouth opened wide, WOW! There was a full blown disco down there filled
with gorgeous girls on the dance floor. Right then and there I knew I found a home

Looking 4 Now
05-16-2023, 03:51 PM
In 1996 or 1997 there was a average looking guy there surrounded by every gorgeous looking girl in the
place. I asked a girl what was going on and she said he was from a new website and it turned out to be the early days of
Shemale Yum.


You don't see to many New York girls on Grooby anymore but in those days that's about all you saw then.
The girls could't wait to get on Yum. That was great for all us New York guys because most of the girls
had nudes on Yum


Those were the days

raw1
10-11-2023, 05:52 AM
Spent more than my share of evenings there. Often the waitresses would scout out those who fit your preferences and sometime they enjoyed a big TIP.

Robyn
10-13-2023, 10:37 PM
My first visit was circa 1990 when the club was still somewhere in the 30s. I met a cute young latina girl that blew me downstairs in a closet before we went to a hotel for more. It was my first time with a trans girl. It was an amazing night. She left a lasting impression.

BCumming
03-13-2024, 08:51 PM
I have some great memories of Edelweis (in all of its locations), but most especially the spot on 11th Ave. Such gorgeous ladies - I would get hard just walking into the place. The upstairs was nice but the better action was downstairs. (licking my lips just remembering)