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Nicole Dupre
06-19-2010, 02:46 PM
1. Go to the gym. No girl likes a fatty, or a man with bigger boobs than what you get from HRT.

2. Tell everyone, starting with your family, that you're attracted to trannys. Imagine how liberating this will feel. Sex without the guilt is the sex you NEED. And then, when you clock a tranny on the street and think about how fun it would be to blow her, you won't get any gray hairs worrying about your mommy wondering if you're a homo.

3. Get a personality. No one cares about your vast knowledge on all topics couch-potato. I'm talking about going out and having character-shaping life-experiences for a change. Wtf? A girl transcends her genitalia and birth gender, and becomes a self-actualized human being. And what do you want to talk about? You favorite Marvel Comics movie? There's a time and place for everything. Learn those times and places, you socially retarded dorks. :geek:

Mix and match, and add your own. :-)

Btw obnoxious guys like Indy Closet are much closer to their objective than 99% of you are. Why? Because he doesn't give a shit. When you try too hard or worry too much, you will never get a date.

HappyTrees420
06-19-2010, 03:41 PM
Oh fuck off already you bitter ass bitch! Enough with the self righteous bullshit

Wordzy
06-19-2010, 04:18 PM
Hmm. so you're saying get a life, then you'll get laid?

I think thats just crazy!

Silcc69
06-19-2010, 04:26 PM
1. Go to the gym. No girl likes a fatty, or a man with bigger boobs than what you get from HRT.

2. Tell everyone, starting with your family, that you're attracted to trannys. Imagine how liberating this will feel. Sex without the guilt is the sex you NEED. And then, when you clock a tranny on the street and think about how fun it would be to blow her, you won't get any gray hairs worrying about your mommy wondering if you're a homo.

3. Get a personality. No one cares about your vast knowledge on all topics couch-potato. I'm talking about going out and having character-shaping life-experiences for a change. Wtf? A girl transcends her genitalia and birth gender, and becomes a self-actualized human being. And what do you want to talk about? You favorite Marvel Comics movie? There's a time and place for everything. Learn those times and places, you socially retarded dorks. :geek:

Mix and match, and add your own. :-)

Btw obnoxious guys like Indy Closet are much closer to their objective than 99% of you are. Why? Because he doesn't give a shit. When you try too hard or worry too much, you will never get a date.

Of course is there wallet is as fat as there belly then that becomes a moot point. :)

BLKGSXR
06-19-2010, 05:01 PM
Of course is there wallet is as fat as there belly then that becomes a moot point. :)
the point is to get laid without having to pay bro...

Wordzy
06-19-2010, 05:05 PM
the point is to get laid without having to pay bro...

You always end up paying, one way of another.

BLKGSXR
06-19-2010, 05:06 PM
You always end up paying, one way of another.
true but id rather pay for a dinner or lunch then knowingly pay for sex...20-30 vs 300+ ....
Most girls are simple even though they do not want to admit it... if they genuinely like you and youre not a complete weirdo your IN!!

Wordzy
06-19-2010, 05:11 PM
Definalty. Get a life, get laid. Works for both TG's and GG's.

Something else to think about A's are attreacted to A's. Realistically you're not going to lay a girl who looks like this:
http://anatranny.com/hosted/1b/photos/12.jpg

Unless you are handsome and have a decent standard of living.


Unfortunatley I'm neither, so I'm hoping they like little dicks :D

Nicole Dupre
06-19-2010, 05:50 PM
Awwww. Did I strike a nerve? You jump on this thread and start calling people names? Go fuck yourself, gayboy.

Get over yourself, loser. "If the shoe fits..."

Nicole Dupre
06-19-2010, 05:53 PM
That's a fallacy; that it takes money to be with a hot girl. What it takes is being desirable. And being desirable starts with a good attitude. "Poor me" is not a sexy attitude. Never was, and never will be.

Nicole Dupre
06-19-2010, 06:09 PM
Of course is there wallet is as fat as there belly then that becomes a moot point. That's bullshit. Money can keep someone on a leash, but it doesn't make the guy handsome or attractive. Well, unless they spend it on as gym and cosmetic enhancements.

Coroner
06-19-2010, 06:20 PM
1. Go to the gym. No girl likes a fatty, or a man with bigger boobs than what you get from HRT.

While I agree that most girls prefer fit guys, there is still something called taste. I like more natural looking girls and a few extra pounds wouldn´t bother me while I´m not interested in super models.


2. Tell everyone, starting with your family, that you're attracted to trannys. Imagine how liberating this will feel. Sex without the guilt is the sex you NEED. And then, when you clock a tranny on the street and think about how fun it would be to blow her, you won't get any gray hairs worrying about your mommy wondering if you're a homo.

If this is a general criteria, maybe the t-girls should start worrying about getting laid? I´d tell everyone if I was in a serious relationship with a t-girl. There´s no point in telling everyone otherwise (because ofthe consequences and because my private life only belongs to me).


3. Get a personality. No one cares about your vast knowledge on all topics couch-potato. I'm talking about going out and having character-shaping life-experiences for a change. Wtf? A girl transcends her genitalia and birth gender, and becomes a self-actualized human being. And what do you want to talk about? You favorite Marvel Comics movie? There's a time and place for everything. Learn those times and places, you socially retarded dorks. :geek:

Mix and match, and add your own. :-)

Btw obnoxious guys like Indy Closet are much closer to their objective than 99% of you are. Why? Because he doesn't give a shit. When you try too hard or worry too much, you will never get a date.

Sure, having a personality is very important but knowledge keeps every meeting fresh. I´m not interested in girls whose intellectual capabilities end with Gucci shoes. I like comics (not the Marvel ones) but I wouldn´t want to talk about them with her.

Wordzy
06-19-2010, 06:44 PM
That's a fallacy; that it takes money to be with a hot girl. What it takes is being desirable. And being desirable starts with a good attitude. "Poor me" is not a sexy attitude. Never was, and never will be.

Yeah, but if you're as attractive as the girl who's pic I posted (a pic from Ana Tranny, sorry I don't know her proper name) then you can afford to be as picky as you like and I'm guessing that going out with a rich guy who is desirable is preferable to going out with a desirable guy who is living in his mums basement.

I'm not saying you are all cold blooded mecenary's just was just using her as an extreme example.

Ryz
06-19-2010, 06:49 PM
My GF always pays for everything :shrug

rockabilly
06-19-2010, 06:59 PM
1. You could find a girl who likes you for who you are on the inside , but that's crazy talk right?

2. Why is it anyone's business who i like? I don't have a family anyway and it would be disrespectful to her to put her business on front street.

3. In an ideal relationship you'd have similiar interest , including comics , music and games.

But then again WTF do i know. Meh

Nicole Dupre
06-19-2010, 07:07 PM
Sure, having a personality is very important but knowledge keeps every meeting fresh. I´m not interested in girls whose intellectual capabilities end with Gucci shoes. I like comics (not the Marvel ones) but I wouldn´t want to talk about them with her.

Very true. But you can't assume that just because a girl is attractive, she's also vapid. (And I'm not saying you would make that assumption. You seem more together than that.)

Some girls can discuss Gucci AND even comic books. However, most don't want to use either as the foundation of a LTR. Intelligence and cash do go a long way, but personality might actually get you to the promised land ie. LOVE.

But for some guys, it's their ego that won't allow them to pay for sex. Maybe they have no money, but they also have a crappy personality and their insecurities holding them back. Imo guys with no looks, no personality, no brains, and no class should just cut to the chase and get a hooker when their finances allow. Waiting for a miracle, and remaining horny and lonely, is no way to go through life. :2cent

Nicole Dupre
06-19-2010, 07:12 PM
My GF always pays for everything :shrug

You'd be surprised how many guys coast through life on their TS escort GF's coins. My ex in FL smoked the best weed, had every fucking video game he could ever want, and ate out in a decent restaurant almost every night on MY DIME.

Dean Wormer
06-19-2010, 07:15 PM
1. You could find a girl who likes you for who you are on the inside , but that's crazy talk right?

2. Why is it anyone's business who i like? I don't have a family anyway and it would be disrespectful to her to put her business on front street.

3. In an ideal relationship you'd have similiar interest , including comics , music and games.

But then again WTF do i know. Meh

Listen chubby. A virgin like you should be using this thread as a learning tool instead of arguing. Because whatever it is that you've been doing up till now hasn't worked. Yes?

Now go join a gym and lay off the Twinkies.

rockabilly
06-19-2010, 07:19 PM
LOL who say's i'm still a virgin? hahahahaha

I'm not arguing at all Dean Wormer , just pointing out that nobody should be judged by their appearance is all , oh and i don't like twinkies ..... i prefer glazed donuts.

Nicole Dupre
06-19-2010, 07:21 PM
1. You could find a girl who likes you for who you are on the inside , but that's crazy talk right?

2. Why is it anyone's business who i like? I don't have a family anyway and it would be disrespectful to her to put her business on front street.

3. In an ideal relationship you'd have similiar interest , including comics , music and games.

But then again WTF do i know. Meh

1. Well, attraction is mostly physical and chemical. No one falls in love with an intellect alone.

2. And you're goddamn right it's no one's business who you find attractive. Fuck anyone who would criticize another person's sexual tastes. There's an oil leak in the ocean killing the planet right now, and people still worry about who's fucking who. And that's PATHETIC! They should start with the Vatican if they want to find the real predatory perverts.

3. Right. But again, dating is the process of getting to know someone. Having a checklist of similar tastes is not ALL there is to a relationship.

And you know plenty. It's up to you what you do with that info.

Ryz
06-19-2010, 07:28 PM
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alyssats
06-19-2010, 07:28 PM
1. Go to the gym. No girl likes a fatty, or a man with bigger boobs than what you get from HRT.

2. Tell everyone, starting with your family, that you're attracted to trannys. Imagine how liberating this will feel. Sex without the guilt is the sex you NEED. And then, when you clock a tranny on the street and think about how fun it would be to blow her, you won't get any gray hairs worrying about your mommy wondering if you're a homo.

3. Get a personality. No one cares about your vast knowledge on all topics couch-potato. I'm talking about going out and having character-shaping life-experiences for a change. Wtf? A girl transcends her genitalia and birth gender, and becomes a self-actualized human being. And what do you want to talk about? You favorite Marvel Comics movie? There's a time and place for everything. Learn those times and places, you socially retarded dorks. :geek:

Mix and match, and add your own. :-)

Btw obnoxious guys like Indy Closet are much closer to their objective than 99% of you are. Why? Because he doesn't give a shit. When you try too hard or worry too much, you will never get a date.

i love it!

by the way just for me the best sex i had are with guys that i really like and really attracted too without any money involve. especially being with a guy that dont have any hang ups being seen with me in public and introducing me to his family and friends. you Nicole girl rule! :Bowdown:

rockabilly
06-19-2010, 07:29 PM
True Nicole , but i'd like to also add that attraction and chemistry differ from girl to girl and so forth.

Nicole Dupre
06-19-2010, 08:09 PM
True Nicole , but i'd like to also add that attraction and chemistry differ from girl to girl and so forth.
And again, that's trial and error. Human chemistry is not a static event. Sure, the initial indications can be promising. But dating is usually a progressive thing. Also, LTRs are about commitment. If peoples' goals in life are pointed in two completely different directions, there might be noting to gain from good chemistry. Even a great first date might ultimately go no where.

rockabilly
06-19-2010, 08:25 PM
That's life Nicole , you live and learn , you love or you don't.

Things work out or they don't , that's just how it is.

Silcc69
06-19-2010, 08:33 PM
You'd be surprised how many guys coast through life on their TS escort GF's coins. My ex in FL smoked the best weed, had every fucking video game he could ever want, and ate out in a decent restaurant almost every night on MY DIME.

I'd luv to sign up for those benefits.

fred41
06-19-2010, 10:18 PM
2. Tell everyone, starting with your family, that you're attracted to trannys. Imagine how liberating this will feel. Sex without the guilt is the sex you NEED. And then, when you clock a tranny on the street and think about how fun it would be to blow her, you won't get any gray hairs worrying about your mommy wondering if you're a homo.


Not so sure I agree with this one anymore (though I think I understand what you're getting at), here's why- once you start doing that- every young lady you bring around will get that extra once-over...everyone will try to guess (whether they admit it or not)..is she , or isn't she?

A girlfriend doesn't need that extra scrutiny..and it isn't fair to her either. I would say bring your girl around and introduce her to your friends and family..and let them figure it out.

...but I think you pretty much nailed everything else.

Nicole Dupre
06-19-2010, 10:38 PM
Not so sure I agree with this one anymore (though I think I understand what you're getting at), here's why- once you start doing that- every young lady you bring around will get that extra once-over...everyone will try to guess (whether they admit it or not)..is she , or isn't she?

A girlfriend doesn't need that extra scrutiny..and it isn't fair to her either. I would say bring your girl around and introduce her to your friends and family..and let them figure it out.

...but I think you pretty much nailed everything else.

But if you bring it up now, it's up to your family to behave like rational adults at that point, and not you. You braced the people you love and care about for the possibility that you might bring a TS home one day, and that's really all you can do. If they act weird around your girl, that's on them. But at least you'll look like the mature adult. But if you seem like you're not proud enough of who you are, or who she is, you're giving their prejudices validity.

Nicole Dupre
06-19-2010, 10:40 PM
That's life Nicole , you live and learn , you love or you don't.

Things work out or they don't , that's just how it is.

Exactly. But "you have to be in it to win it".

BrendaQG
06-19-2010, 10:54 PM
You missed one thing. After going to the gym they need to take care of that personal hygiene. I for one like the scent of a man, but not the stink of a man and whatever garlicky thing he just ate, or beer, (comming out through his pores.) I'm just saying.

giovanni_hotel
06-19-2010, 11:08 PM
You missed one thing. After going to the gym they need to take care of that personal hygiene. I for one like the scent of a man, but not the stink of a man and whatever garlicky thing he just ate, or beer, (comming out through his pores.) I'm just saying.

LOL!! I can't imagine!

Like the new do' Brenda!

BrendaQG
06-19-2010, 11:24 PM
Thanks. I decided to go a bit more natural. Which our culture tells us is not feminine or beautiful.

Nicole Dupre
06-19-2010, 11:45 PM
Ok, coming in at a strong #4 is B.O. being a definite no-no.

Hygiene is major, guys. I take at least two baths or showers a day. Therefore, I think you guys can find the time to take one. And brushing your teeth and dealing with your stinky breath is also not much to ask.

And I won't even go into your underwear, or how clean your ass is, beyond this point. But I occasionally have these clients wearing briefs which look like they were manufactured during the Clinton years. Wtf is up with that? I'm sorry, but if underwear has that much sentimental or monetary value, you have bigger problems than a lack of sex.

rockabilly
06-19-2010, 11:56 PM
My "El Guapo's" are a classic , and a great convo piece.

But they don't mean i'm quick on the draw.

I buy in bulk and have a "plethora" of them.

fred41
06-19-2010, 11:59 PM
I would also add- spend a little cash on clothing once in a while..and dress appropriately...you might be in love with your cargo pants and hawaiian shirt..but trust me..it's not a chick magnet....

fred41
06-20-2010, 12:03 AM
But if you bring it up now, it's up to your family to behave like rational adults at that point, and not you. You braced the people you love and care about for the possibility that you might bring a TS home one day, and that's really all you can do. If they act weird around your girl, that's on them. But at least you'll look like the mature adult. But if you seem like you're not proud enough of who you are, or who she is, you're giving their prejudices validity.

..but I've been with girls who don't want anyone to know upfront..once you let that cat out of the bag...that's no longer an option.

....to some degree this problem has arisen with me because some people in my family already know.

Floyd R
06-20-2010, 12:04 AM
Please give us a tutorial on how to clean the ass?

Ok, coming in at a strong #4 is B.O. being a definite no-no.

Hygiene is major, guys. I take at least two baths or showers a day. Therefore, I think you guys can find the time to take one. And brushing your teeth and dealing with your stinky breath is also not much to ask.

And I won't even go into your underwear, or how clean your ass is, beyond this point. But I occasionally have these clients wearing briefs which look like they were manufactured during the Clinton years. Wtf is up with that? I'm sorry, but if underwear has that much sentimental or monetary value, you have bigger problems than a lack of sex.

rockabilly
06-20-2010, 12:04 AM
In regards to Hawaiian shirts ... Unless you're a Samoan.

giovanni_hotel
06-20-2010, 12:09 AM
LOLOL! Nicole and Brenda!!

It's crazy this even has to be mentioned, but it's still real talk!!

Nicole Dupre
06-20-2010, 01:54 AM
Please give us a tutorial on how to clean the ass?

We stick you under a high pressure hose, and then just wait a while. ;-) lol

CaptainPlanet
06-20-2010, 02:21 AM
Please give us a tutorial on how to clean the ass?

a Loofa and some SOAP. Do the Math

Nicole Dupre
06-20-2010, 02:32 AM
a Loofa and some SOAP. Do the Math

Actually, a bidet is the way to go. My mom's master bath has one, and I use it whenever opportunity allows. :werd:

onmyknees
06-20-2010, 03:30 AM
[QUOTE=Nicole Dupre;759775]You'd be surprised how many guys coast through life on their TS escort GF's coins. My ex in FL smoked the best weed, had every fucking video game he could ever want, and ate out in a decent restaurant almost every night on MY DIME

How about giving me a crack at a gig like that Nicole ? LMAO...I'm not much for fancy restaurants, I prefer biker and beach bars ...so you could save a few bucks there , and video games aren't me thing, I'd rather be moving my thumbs on the throttle of one of my Harley's!
I'd take you for a little different kinda ride that this dude, I assure you ! LOL


:fuckin::fuckin:

Floyd R
06-20-2010, 03:31 AM
Make a video showing how to clean the ass for those clients of yours that constantly show up with a messy ass. How do you handle a client with a messy ass?


We stick you under a high pressure hose, and then just wait a while. ;-) lol

Nicole Dupre
06-20-2010, 03:45 AM
Make a video showing how to clean the ass for those clients of yours that constantly show up with a messy ass.

Make a video of you being a decent human being, with no need to antagonize me with your stupid bullshit.

Nicole Dupre
06-20-2010, 03:50 AM
How about giving me a crack at a gig like that Nicole ? LMAO...I'm not much for fancy restaurants, I prefer biker and beach bars ...so you could save a few bucks there , and video games aren't me thing, I'd rather be moving my thumbs on the throttle of one of my Harley's!
I'd take you for a little different kinda ride that this dude, I assure you ! LOL


:fuckin::fuckin:

Actually, I'll never be in that situation again because I will no longer date a guy without a job that affords him what he wants from life. It was fun while it lasted, but 'been there done that'. :D

Floyd R
06-20-2010, 04:25 AM
Why do you think I am antagonizing you? I don't personally know you.


Make a video of you being a decent human being, with no need to antagonize me with your stupid bullshit.

Nicole Dupre
06-20-2010, 04:39 AM
Why do you think I am antagonizing you? I don't personally know you.
I have no idea. Why does anyone troll someone they don't know? You tell me.

Floyd R
06-20-2010, 04:41 AM
Bye Nicole. Go argue with yourself.


I have no idea. Why does anyone troll someone they don't know? You tell me.

Nicole Dupre
06-20-2010, 05:05 AM
Bye Nicole. Go argue with yourself.
Oh. So you're not going to tell me to blow my brains out or call me a man, completely unprovoked, like you have in the past? :confused: It must be my birthday.

tsparisangelline
06-20-2010, 08:12 AM
for me i require cash no freebies :)

bellamy
06-20-2010, 09:16 AM
1. Go to the gym. No girl likes a fatty, or a man with bigger boobs than what you get from HRT.

2. Tell everyone, starting with your family, that you're attracted to trannys. Imagine how liberating this will feel. Sex without the guilt is the sex you NEED. And then, when you clock a tranny on the street and think about how fun it would be to blow her, you won't get any gray hairs worrying about your mommy wondering if you're a homo.

3. Get a personality. No one cares about your vast knowledge on all topics couch-potato. I'm talking about going out and having character-shaping life-experiences for a change. Wtf? A girl transcends her genitalia and birth gender, and becomes a self-actualized human being. And what do you want to talk about? You favorite Marvel Comics movie? There's a time and place for everything. Learn those times and places, you socially retarded dorks. :geek:

Mix and match, and add your own. :-)

Btw obnoxious guys like Indy Closet are much closer to their objective than 99% of you are. Why? Because he doesn't give a shit. When you try too hard or worry too much, you will never get a date.


LOL I love the 2nd one :)

bellamy
06-20-2010, 09:25 AM
for me i require cash no freebies :)


So you're saying you don't date? At all? Thats a shame, it's one thing to get paid for (I got no issues with that at all) but there should be someone in your life that you can be actually intimate with.

Nicole Dupre
06-20-2010, 03:42 PM
for me i require cash no freebies :)
Smart girl. :)

Nicole Dupre
06-20-2010, 03:51 PM
Freebies are an exception, not a rule. Guys who are exceptional in some way, or who get to know a girl outside of the sex industry, are the ones who get a little casual sex and potentially become a SO.

People seemed to be so amazed that I gave the pool guy in my apartment building a BJ a few years ago. But what are you gonna do? Become a pool guy, just hoping that a tranny lives on your route and responds to you flirting with her? That was just fate. My ex, who I spoiled, was not looking for a generous tranny GF. Again, that was just chemistry and fate. But anyone looking for "Nicole Dupre" is getting charged. Beyond that, anything is possible.

jumbo
06-20-2010, 08:46 PM
Hi Nicole,

Great thread!

My only problem is the title, maybe it should be how to get a life.

:)

Jumbo

Nicole Dupre
06-20-2010, 09:52 PM
Thank you, Jumbo. :-)

tsparisangelline
06-20-2010, 09:54 PM
So you're saying you don't date? At all? Thats a shame, it's one thing to get paid for (I got no issues with that at all) but there should be someone in your life that you can be actually intimate with.

intimate with someone when ur sleeping with others?

i dont see any man being able to do that and be in love with me

BeardedOne
06-20-2010, 10:50 PM
And what do you want to talk about? You favorite Marvel Comics movie?

I had a date with one gurl whose nipples got hard when I started talking about comic books. :) A rare treat, but not impossible.

I only date commercially these daze, because I'm a dysfunctional mess, but I agree with many of the basic rules put forth here be they for a single hook-up with a pro or an LTR with the woman of your dreams.

You'd think that some of these rules would be basic common sense. Be clean, respectful, attentive, etc. I guess that I have delusional concepts of 'common sense'.

@ Brenda, I'm afraid that when you meet me you will discover that I almost always smell like beer (Trust me, I know what you mean), but I do try to balance it with a long shower and some 'curiously strong' mints. :) BTW, I can see your boobies in your av. :dancing:

rover187
06-20-2010, 10:58 PM
That comment about the gym and hygiene is prettyu on the money. I've gone out and met plenty of girls that compliment me on my manners, hygiene, and body. It definitely will get yo laid faster in LA by a "GG" or "T-Girl" for sure.

Nicole Dupre
06-20-2010, 11:02 PM
I had a date with one gurl whose nipples got hard when I started talking about comic books. :) A rare treat, but not impossible.

I only date commercially these daze, because I'm a dysfunctional mess, but I agree with many of the basic rules put forth here be they for a single hook-up with a pro or an LTR with the woman of your dreams.

You'd think that some of these rules would be basic common sense. Be clean, respectful, attentive, etc. I guess that I have delusional concepts of 'common sense'.

@ Brenda, I'm afraid that when you meet me you will discover that I almost always smell like beer (Trust me, I know what you mean), but I do try to balance it with a long shower and some 'curiously strong' mints. :) BTW, I can see your boobies in your av. :dancing:
Dysfunctional, perhaps, but you've never lacked a healthy outlook or common sense, you beer swilling Nortonite.

BeardedOne
06-20-2010, 11:03 PM
intimate with someone when ur sleeping with others?

i dont see any man being able to do that and be in love with me

That's a tough row to hoe...Or a tough ho' to row, but it does happen.

I've known some couples of this nature and I speak from personal experience as well. I was with a GG for about four years that was probably the most prolific street whore in the city at the time. Though she had a surprisingly upscale clientele, per se, she had little self-worth and worked the low end of the profession.

I can't begin to count the number of times I drove out to East Bumfuck to pick her up after a date-gone-bad or the times I took her to the ER for worse. I still can't put a finger on why I loved her and put up with so much, but I did. Eventually, the lifestyle did wear me down (Moreso by the low-end clientele that she kept following than the nature of the game) and we went our separate ways. More than thirty years later, we still connect from time to time via email and mutual friends.

I'm sure that a lot of it has to do with a person's state of mind and morals. I'm bi/poly so I don't have as much of an issue with 'different' relationships and I understand that hooking/escorting is a job, not a relationship. I don't have the mindset that equates escorting with bad/evil either. Though there is the jealousy issue, I never worried about it too much because I could see that I was 'The Boyfriend' and the clients were 'The Customer'. It's a slim margin, but there really =IS= a difference.

BeardedOne
06-20-2010, 11:12 PM
Dysfunctional, perhaps, but you've never lacked a healthy outlook or common sense, you beer swilling Nortonite.

*Snark* :)

Thanx. As bizarre as my life has been, I've had a lot of perspective thrown at me in recent years. I duck, but it keeps hitting me.

They still haven't renamed that bridge, have they?

youshouldtrythislol
06-20-2010, 11:17 PM
I find it kind of sad that a thread like this had to be made in the first place. Seems like most, if not all of this should have been common sense. The world never ceases to amaze me.

sucka4chix
06-21-2010, 02:34 AM
If this thread is about transgirls which I assume it is, being on HA and all, the first and hardest step is FINDING them. Then you must readjust. If you met them at a function flooded with working girls, all the other stuff is moot. If you just stumbled upon them at the market, you have to be overly aggressive because you prolly won't stumble upon another one for years.

tsparisangelline
06-21-2010, 03:33 AM
That's a tough row to hoe...Or a tough ho' to row, but it does happen.

I've known some couples of this nature and I speak from personal experience as well. I was with a GG for about four years that was probably the most prolific street whore in the city at the time. Though she had a surprisingly upscale clientele, per se, she had little self-worth and worked the low end of the profession.

I can't begin to count the number of times I drove out to East Bumfuck to pick her up after a date-gone-bad or the times I took her to the ER for worse. I still can't put a finger on why I loved her and put up with so much, but I did. Eventually, the lifestyle did wear me down (Moreso by the low-end clientele that she kept following than the nature of the game) and we went our separate ways. More than thirty years later, we still connect from time to time via email and mutual friends.

I'm sure that a lot of it has to do with a person's state of mind and morals. I'm bi/poly so I don't have as much of an issue with 'different' relationships and I understand that hooking/escorting is a job, not a relationship. I don't have the mindset that equates escorting with bad/evil either. Though there is the jealousy issue, I never worried about it too much because I could see that I was 'The Boyfriend' and the clients were 'The Customer'. It's a slim margin, but there really =IS= a difference.




if a man dates me i see him dating me for money not love

i know until im out of the game and the surgeries i want are completed i will not be able to have a relationship

rockabilly
06-21-2010, 03:36 AM
You need to set a trap to land a "trap".

For bait i'd go w/ .... Gucci handbags and Prada shoes. jk

Nicole Dupre
06-21-2010, 04:43 AM
If you just stumbled upon them at the market, you have to be overly aggressive because you prolly won't stumble upon another one for years.

Well then you need to shop at the Wilton Manors, FL Publix, my friend. lol I'd see a tranny in there on the average of once every week or two.

Nicole Dupre
06-21-2010, 04:46 AM
Prada, schmada. I want one of THESE, Rockabilly. lol

http://www.stylebyme.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/chocolate-hermes-birkin.jpg

rockabilly
06-21-2010, 05:05 AM
I know a guy who knows a guy in Red Hook who can get whatever you need.

Frankie "Fingers" Finlay is his name.

Just don't ask too many questions.

alyssats
06-21-2010, 06:07 AM
Prada, schmada. I want one of THESE, Rockabilly. lol

http://www.stylebyme.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/chocolate-hermes-birkin.jpg

OMG i think thats Hermes im drooling for that, im thinking of buying that or a new car before the year ends

igotmacedbymimi:(
06-21-2010, 06:07 AM
1. Big buff ripped gym stud.

2. Does what he likes, fucks with girls, guys and ts, doesnt care shit about what people think of him as long as he gets his big cock wet.

3. Talk about whatever, has the gameplan, the lyrics and the words to charm.

=

Ts girl falls in love with him, gets fucked shitless for a month or two, wants to be his 'one and only', ends up being dumped after a month and gets replaced by a hot genetic girl or another hot buff gym stud.

You know thats how it works in the real world.

Then ts goes back to escorting and having a bitter mind, back on hormones and cant wait for the day when the next big buff gym stud comes along (only for it to happen all over again).

alyssats
06-21-2010, 06:11 AM
Freebies are an exception, not a rule. Guys who are exceptional in some way, or who get to know a girl outside of the sex industry, are the ones who get a little casual sex and potentially become a SO.

People seemed to be so amazed that I gave the pool guy in my apartment building a BJ a few years ago. But what are you gonna do? Become a pool guy, just hoping that a tranny lives on your route and responds to you flirting with her? That was just fate. My ex, who I spoiled, was not looking for a generous tranny GF. Again, that was just chemistry and fate. But anyone looking for "Nicole Dupre" is getting charged. Beyond that, anything is possible.

I could so much relate to this, do you know how many cute bell boy/hotel staff in luxury hotels ive fukced since theyre so fukcing yummy. lol :wiggle:

Also some delivery boys cant get away from me without getting a blowjob lol
if youre H0T lets FUKC!!!

uhmmm :fuckin:

igotmacedbymimi:(
06-21-2010, 06:15 AM
if a man dates me i see him dating me for money not love

i know until im out of the game and the surgeries i want are completed i will not be able to have a relationship

Good post.

You're an escort. What real sexy guy is going to date a genetic female escort when she is having sex with other men?

NONE.

He might fuck her if hes getting for free (lol hes not going to pay if he can get whatever girl he likes for free).

So after your surgeries, when you quit the sex industry, have some qualifications and decent job/business set up. You can get the man you really want. Not always the case, but a lot more realistic.

Imagine a man who has a fetish for midget porn. He loves female midgets. Is he going to want his female midgit girlfriend to be an escort and make porn? He might fancy some of the star midgit porn actresses, he might fuck a few of them, but does he want a relationship with the midgit pornstars when he knows they are fucking clients behind his back and making porn movies?

He'd have to be one fucked up guy.

Same with the ts genre.

Nicole Dupre
06-21-2010, 06:16 AM
OMG i think thats Hermes im drooling for that, im thinking of buying that or a new car before the year endsIt is a Birkin by Hermes. That particular one was donated and auctioned for a charity by Naomi Campbell. http://bagbunch.com/naomi-campbell-gives-away-hermes-birkin-bag-for-charity/

igotmacedbymimi:(
06-21-2010, 06:20 AM
Freebies are an exception, not a rule. Guys who are exceptional in some way, or who get to know a girl outside of the sex industry, are the ones who get a little casual sex and potentially become a SO.

People seemed to be so amazed that I gave the pool guy in my apartment building a BJ a few years ago. But what are you gonna do? Become a pool guy, just hoping that a tranny lives on your route and responds to you flirting with her? That was just fate. My ex, who I spoiled, was not looking for a generous tranny GF. Again, that was just chemistry and fate. But anyone looking for "Nicole Dupre" is getting charged. Beyond that, anything is possible.

And this is why you will NEVER ever have a normal life.

Sex is a commodity for you.

Sex is all you can offer.

Sex with a transexual.

So instantly that elliminates about 90% of men who dont want to have sex with a transexual. You are left with 10% of men.

If you think of sex as a commodity, how can you ever make love to a partner? Will you try and charge them every time you have sex with them?

Or why dont you try and meet a male escort who is into trans? What if he charges more than you do? So you charge him your fee, then he charges you his fee, his fee is more, therefore you pay the extra difference every time you have sex with him?

This is where the 'tranny' mindset totally brings them down. Men and women have sex with they have feelings for each other, sex is an extension of those feelings, not just a physical action.

You will never have sex with feelings because sex to you is a 'commodity', therefore you have lost out on one of the best things life has to offer.

igotmacedbymimi:(
06-21-2010, 06:26 AM
It is a Birkin by Hermes. That particular one was donated and auctioned for a charity by Naomi Campbell. http://bagbunch.com/naomi-campbell-gives-away-hermes-birkin-bag-for-charity/

It's a leather bag. A bag made of leather with a metal clasp, thats all.

Naomi cambell is a well known high fashion model who is stupid as shit with zero education and really is no role model for anyone at all.

You are a tatood tranny sex worker, selling sex for a living (whatever way you dress it up) having to sleep with fat ugly men, suck them off to sell your body (the only commodity you have available) to the people who get their rocks off for that fetish of pornography.

That is the real world. I have many trans friends, i have dated some as well, one in particular who is now studying to be a doctor!! She has my respect. Her name is plastered around this forum by the fucking cock hounds how theyd want to do this to her cock, or do this to her tits etc because she was one of the biggest trans pornstars in the world, had made a lot of money, and wasted so much of it on utter crap like the bags above.

Real world is about knowledge, friendships, peace and love.

If you get them, materialism means nothing. They are not free, they require someone to have the correct mindset and intelligence to seek true happiness in life.

Not some stupid little leather bag that a stupid fashion model high on coke donated to an auction.

That is real.

Nicole Dupre
06-21-2010, 06:34 AM
And this is why you will NEVER ever have a normal life.

Sex is a commodity for you.

Sex is all you can offer.

Sex with a transexual.

So instantly that elliminates about 90% of men who dont want to have sex with a transexual. You are left with 10% of men.

If you think of sex as a commodity, how can you ever make love to a partner? Will you try and charge them every time you have sex with them?

Or why dont you try and meet a male escort who is into trans? What if he charges more than you do? So you charge him your fee, then he charges you his fee, his fee is more, therefore you pay the extra difference every time you have sex with him?

This is where the 'tranny' mindset totally brings them down. Men and women have sex with they have feelings for each other, sex is an extension of those feelings, not just a physical action.

You will never have sex with feelings because sex to you is a 'commodity', therefore you have lost out on one of the best things life has to offer.

Wow. Where do you come up with this bullshit? "10% of men"? "Dating male escorts"? And charging my boyfriend to sleep with me? You're fucking high, and very bitter too; another guy who can't afford what he really wants, and has to build a fantasy world about what escorts are missing out on with him and the supposed special love he has to share. If you were in a sexually fulfilling and healthy monogamous relationship, then what are you doing on a porn forum; you, and your 10% buddies who know so much about love, dating, and relationships?

Worry about yourself, and why you're a fixture on a porn forum. Where is your GF tonight, Romeo?

Nicole Dupre
06-21-2010, 06:41 AM
Oh, and I missed the part about midgets, your TS ex-Gf who's studying medicine, the gym bunnys, and all the other nonsense which revealed how self-hating and bitter you are. You're on a roll tonight.

alyssats
06-21-2010, 07:26 AM
It's a leather bag. A bag made of leather with a metal clasp, thats all.

Naomi cambell is a well known high fashion model who is stupid as shit with zero education and really is no role model for anyone at all.

You are a tatood tranny sex worker, selling sex for a living (whatever way you dress it up) having to sleep with fat ugly men, suck them off to sell your body (the only commodity you have available) to the people who get their rocks off for that fetish of pornography.

That is the real world. I have many trans friends, i have dated some as well, one in particular who is now studying to be a doctor!! She has my respect. Her name is plastered around this forum by the fucking cock hounds how theyd want to do this to her cock, or do this to her tits etc because she was one of the biggest trans pornstars in the world, had made a lot of money, and wasted so much of it on utter crap like the bags above.

Real world is about knowledge, friendships, peace and love.

If you get them, materialism means nothing. They are not free, they require someone to have the correct mindset and intelligence to seek true happiness in life.

Not some stupid little leather bag that a stupid fashion model high on coke donated to an auction.

That is real.

no offense but buying an Hermes bag is one of the best investment for girls, it appreciates value unlike if i just park my money in the bank lol :dancing:

and i could also used it whenever doing outcalls for my clientelle and its a big boost for confidence so i could FUKC them good lol

and i dont see anything wrong giving a gift to myself sometimes from my hard work :jerkoff

tsparisangelline
06-21-2010, 12:17 PM
Good post.

You're an escort. What real sexy guy is going to date a genetic female escort when she is having sex with other men?

NONE.

He might fuck her if hes getting for free (lol hes not going to pay if he can get whatever girl he likes for free).

So after your surgeries, when you quit the sex industry, have some qualifications and decent job/business set up. You can get the man you really want. Not always the case, but a lot more realistic.

Imagine a man who has a fetish for midget porn. He loves female midgets. Is he going to want his female midgit girlfriend to be an escort and make porn? He might fancy some of the star midgit porn actresses, he might fuck a few of them, but does he want a relationship with the midgit pornstars when he knows they are fucking clients behind his back and making porn movies?

He'd have to be one fucked up guy.

Same with the ts genre.



no offense but i think id be happier alone even when its all done

BellaBellucci
06-21-2010, 12:54 PM
So instantly that elliminates about 90% of men who dont want to have sex with a transexual. You are left with 10% of men.


Are you joking? 90% of men don't want to have sex with a transsexual? They might be too scared to do it, but trust me, most want to or at very least they would. Guys are horny and we know how to turn them on.

I for one have straight guys chasing me around all the time to the point of annoyance and those who I've come out to don't seem all that deterred other than they're afraid of being 'gay,' even if I haven't initiated anything sexual, which pretty much means they were already planning how they were going to try to bed me. So in reality, it's not that they don't want to have sex with me, or any other transsexual, it's just that they're homophobic. That would be their problem, not mine, and it's not any other transwoman's either.

~BB~

Jericho
06-21-2010, 01:47 PM
no offense but buying an Hermes bag is one of the best investment for girls

Ahhh, you're buying it as an investment!
Yeah...Right...That, and shoes! :tongue:

GullyFoyle
06-21-2010, 05:53 PM
OMG i think thats Hermes im drooling for that, im thinking of buying that or a new car before the year ends

With the way they drive in the PI, you'd be better off buying a used car and the bag Alyssa. :hide-1:

rockabilly
06-21-2010, 06:11 PM
Ahhh, you're buying it as an investment!
Yeah...Right...That, and shoes! :tongue:




I had a moment like that , I was in the store and saw a "Majin Vegeta" action figure w/ black hair !! Now every DBZ fan knows that when Vegeta went over to the "Majin" side his hair was blonde .... i had found a factory mispaint.
I bought it for $9 and sold it for $50.
Some action figures are "chase" varieties w/ variant paint schemes and hard to find. :geek:

BrendaQG
06-21-2010, 06:23 PM
You just lost all your street cred. lol. (I am pretty sure he was not a super Saiya-jin the entire time he was under babadi's control.)

rockabilly
06-21-2010, 06:28 PM
He became Majin enhanced to be able to maintain SS2 indefinitely and purge his emotional attachments. :p

edit - I doubt Vegeta was ever under Babidi's control. lol .... god i'm such a nerd.

BrendaQG
06-22-2010, 01:53 AM
Son of a gun your right. Which looses you even more street cred. lol. (^_^)

Another suggestion for guys who are trying to get laid. Unless you have proof that a girl geeks out on the same stuff you do don't geek out infront of her. Another thing keep your geeky stuff in a geek room. So rockabilly, if you have big DBZ or Ranma 1/2 posters on your walls move them to one room, along with all your manga and old anime tapes. Call it the library or the study or something. Then it'll look cool or at least tolerable to the non geeky girl (who probably is more of a shoe geek or a handbag geek. Let's call it what it is.)

rockabilly
06-22-2010, 02:13 AM
I keep my collection in my own "Fortress of Solitude" lol

alyssats
06-22-2010, 09:39 PM
I had a moment like that , I was in the store and saw a "Majin Vegeta" action figure w/ black hair !! Now every DBZ fan knows that when Vegeta went over to the "Majin" side his hair was blonde .... i had found a factory mispaint.
I bought it for $9 and sold it for $50.
Some action figures are "chase" varieties w/ variant paint schemes and hard to find. :geek:

im so there rockabilly sweetie :dancing:

alyssats
06-22-2010, 09:41 PM
With the way they drive in the PI, you'd be better off buying a used car and the bag Alyssa. :hide-1:

so true thats why now im more into buying a new Hermes bag than a brand new car and also since most of the time im abroad :jerkoff

BeardedOne
06-23-2010, 05:01 AM
if a man dates me i see him dating me for money not love

i know until im out of the game and the surgeries i want are completed i will not be able to have a relationship

Sorry to hear that, but I know from whence it came. I wish you the best.

To Rockabilly and Brenda: I actually know what DBZ means, so my street cred is in the toilet at this point. :)

rockabilly
06-23-2010, 06:34 AM
I just saw a guy driving a CRX w/ lambo doors , blue neon and a spoiler that could double as the wings of a Cesna that had a Super Saiyan 3 Goku airbrushed on the hood . . . so DBZ is mad street cuz.

Helvis2012
06-23-2010, 07:15 AM
Interesting thread. True to form, the only value lies in the paradoxal intention so wonderfully displayed here.

Shameless...but nonetheless, hilarious.

Well done.

Crawler
06-23-2010, 09:02 AM
You'd be surprised how many guys coast through life on their TS escort GF's coins. My ex in FL smoked the best weed, had every fucking video game he could ever want, and ate out in a decent restaurant almost every night on MY DIME.

OMG where do I get THAT job application!! lol Sucks for you, dreamy for him

Wordzy
06-27-2010, 03:22 AM
2. Tell everyone, starting with your family, that you're attracted to trannys. Imagine how liberating this will feel. Sex without the guilt is the sex you NEED. And then, when you clock a tranny on the street and think about how fun it would be to blow her, you won't get any gray hairs worrying about your mommy wondering if you're a homo.


Your above point only works if you're into the more 'top' side of the transexual world and are into transexuals who still have many masculine characteristics.

Personaly I'm only attracted to Transexuals who are pretty far along the SRS route(chest implants, hormones etc) so I'd like to think the (un)lucky girl would be pretty much passable to the ever day viewer.

Now bearing that in mind would my potenial girlfriend, (who has spent thousands on trying to look as feminie as possible) aprieciate me annoucing to the wolrd that I'm into trannies and have no problems dating them?
I'm guessing althought they'd appreciate my honesty the fact I'm effectively shouting HEY MY GIRLFRIENDS REALLY A BLOKE! would upset her especially when all they're trying to do is become female with as little fuss as possible.

Nicole Dupre
06-27-2010, 04:14 AM
I never said to embarrass your would-be TS GF. I'm not talking about necessarily announcing anything about one girl in particular. My point was, most of you know very well that you have a thing for TS. Yet you completely hide that little fact from your families and friends. Not only is it just plain sad that your self esteem is too low to be proud and open about who you are, but you also won't get any real respect from us. Or at the very least, we can't take you seriously when you bitch about the pricetag we put on you discretely sleeping with us without having to actually date us.

Here's a scenario that I've seen more than a few times. A guy dates a TS that is fairly unclockabale. But eventually the guy's parents want to know why he and his GF are not planning on getting married and having kids. Will he tell them? Chances are, he won't. Usually the guy feels pressured from this situation, and eventually will dump the girl for a GG. But guess what type of girl he'll cheat on his wife with. And I doubt it will come as a shock to you guys when I tell you that more than half of our clients are married to GG and have families.

Let me ask you guys this, if your family and friends are completely in the dark concerning your proclivity for trannys. You are at a friend's house watching television, and some documentary comes on about transsexuals. Your friend lets you know in no uncertain terms that no matter what the girls may look like, any guy who sleeps with another human being who was born with XY chromosomes is a fag. What do you reply? Do you go along with him and remain in the closet? Do you play devils advocate to some degree, but not come out and tell him that you've slept with a tranny or jerked off to tranny pics and porn? Or do you proudly say, "Who the hell are you calling a 'fag'?" or at least say, "Well, I guess that makes me a 'fag' then, because I love trannys."

blendswell
06-27-2010, 04:23 AM
most of the time im abroad i thought you were full time .............................had to do it , no harm intended

giovanni_hotel
06-27-2010, 04:43 AM
I'm on 'str8 guy' forums much of the time where inevitably the subject of TGs comes up along with the typical responses, "if there's another dick in my bed other than my own, somebody is getting their ass kicked...,"etc., and I'm one of the first people to speak up and announce TGs are WOMEN who are simply attempting to have their outward bodies reflect who they are emotionally and psychologically on the inside, and that gender is about more than a penis or vagina , and so on.

I start posting pics of beautiful TGs, get called out in shock as a fag because you never told us ######, but lately something strange happens.

Maybe one guy will ask if letting a TS suck your dick is 'gay' because I definitely would let some of the girls I posted give me a hummer, someone else will post that maybe your 'bi' not a full blown faggot because some of these girls are hot (and all men can't help but analyze a given circumstance from 'what would my cock do in this situation??'), someone else will bring up the issue of whether or not at least fucking a tranny allows you to keep your he-man card, then someone else drops how they saw a couple seconds of a tranny porn ONCE, then I get asked have I ever kissed/fucked a tranny before and what was it like?? ( it was AWESOME!) and away we go - we have a 15 page thread dedicated to TGs!

This has happened to me three times on other forums, which is not the same clearly as 'coming out' to your family that you really dig TGs, (which unless I had to, I doubt that's going to happen), but it's something.

There are things I wouldn't tell my immediate family about a gg GF, and I don't have a problem about keeping certain things private about a TG I might see in a close, intimate relationship.

Nicole Dupre
06-27-2010, 04:52 AM
There are things I wouldn't tell my immediate family about a gg GF, and I don't have a problem about keeping certain things private about a TG I might see in a close, intimate relationship.Basically, it's no one's business what two consenting adults do. Maintaining your privacy is not the same thing as lying.

But many guys, if they're really pressed for an answer, will lie through their teeth.

Wordzy
06-27-2010, 04:55 AM
I never said to embarrass your would-be TS GF. I'm not talking about necessarily announcing anything about one girl in particular. My point was, most of you know very well that you have a thing for TS. Yet you completely hide that little fact from your families and friends. Not only is it just plain sad that your self esteem is too low to be proud and open about who you are, but you also won't get any real respect from us. Or at the very least, we can't take you seriously when you bitch about the pricetag we put on you discretely sleeping with us without having to actually date us.

Thats a very valid point. Personaly I'm in an lrt with a GG but have a strong attraction to TS/TG. Do I hide that? I'm afraid to say I do. If I was in an ltr and in love with a TS would I annouce the fact to my loved ones? That depends on the indiviual I'm with. Lets not beat around the bush, coming out(so to speak) will change the lives of everyone you annouce it to, and that very fact alone means it's going to take someone like me(if I was single) to be in love with the most amamzing person in the world and I still would keep my trap shut unless my (TS) g/f wanted me to tell everyone who she really was.

Which brings up another point:

You're in a ltr with a passable TS who is looking at srs, would she expect you to tell everyone that she is a TS? I don't think so becuase:

1) She is wanting to become a female, why would she want it to known that she started life as a male?

2) You could have the most opened minded family in the world but a son announcing to his family that he is going out with a TS will cause alot of deep thinking for everyone involved. So why would the (T/S)g/f want to inflict that kind of heartache on her loved one? Especially seen as she wants to be a female anyway?


Here's a scenario that I've seen more than a few times. A guy dates a TS that is fairly unclockabale. But eventually the guy's parents want to know why he and his GF are not planning on getting married and having kids. Will he tell them? Chances are, he won't. Usually the guy feels pressured from this situation, and eventually will dump the girl for a GG. But guess what type of girl he'll cheat on his wife with. And I doubt it will come as a shock to you guys when I tell you that more than half of our clients are married to GG and have families.

That's a sad state of affairs for everyone invloved, most of all for the GG your clients are married to. I'm lucky in that I'll never be pressurised into having children,(my g/f has made it abundantly clear to everyone who'll listen that she doesn't want children) so I can't counterpoint this. Apart from to say for me I never want kids so if I wanted to be with a completely passable TS who didn't want me to advertise that fact I'd be on easy street.


Let me ask you guys this, if your family and friends are completely in the dark concerning your proclivity for trannys. You are at a friends house watching television, and documentary comes on about transsexuals. Your friend lets you know in no uncertain terms that no matter what the girls may look like, any guy who sleeps with another human being who was born with XY chromosomes is a fag. What do you reply? Do you go along with him and remain in the closet? Do you play devils advocate to some degree, but not come out and tell him that you've slept with a tranny or jerked off to tranny pics and porn? Or do you proudly say, "Who the hell are you calling a 'fag'?" or at least say, "Well, I guess that makes me a 'fag' then, because I love trannys."

I reply as I always have done "everyone to their own." This has been my attitude towards people all through my life. I'm a TS virgin, and will remain so until single.(then you all better watch out!:))

In this particular scenario annoucing you penchant for TS wouldn't serve any purpose apart from to alienate you from your friends, friends who aren't neccessarily bad people, but just not as open minded as we are. UNLESS you are 100% certain you are in a relationship with THE ONE and can't think of a better time to say"You know what lads...."

Nicole Dupre
06-27-2010, 05:04 AM
OMG where do I get THAT job application!! lol Sucks for you, dreamy for him

It didn't quite "suck". Trust me. He has a gorgeous body, a beautiful dick, and is very handsome imo. I knew exactly what I was getting into. I just got sick of his laziness, and also started sleeping with guys who were not clients. When we started seeing each other, he was the only non-client I was sleeping with. But then he tried taking me to task over sleeping with another gorgeous guy, and I finally said to myself I was done. It wasn't like I was blindly in love with him. I mean, I cared about him. I even spent Xmas with him when it was officially over, and blew him. In fact, I still talk to him every once in a while, so we're still friends on some level. He's just a lazy, immature bastard. lol

Crawler
06-27-2010, 05:07 AM
Reading these things I gain an appreciation about the complexities of others' lives. We pigeonhole, we stereotype and we think we know what other people have lived through, endured, experienced and enjoyed but we really have no idea. In particular, the very simple sentence about spending Christmas with an ex and blowing him struck me as so poignant - so deeply experienced...I don't know. I'm not articulating the sense of wonder I had about that moment - the sadness, the honesty, the intimacy and intensity...

Nicole Dupre
06-27-2010, 05:19 AM
In a way, it was sad. I ditched some of my close friends that night, and took him out to eat partially out of pity. As a human being, he's such a mess, although to look at him you wouldn't know it. He's very charming. But I knew that when I met him; that behind his charming boyish smile was a less-than-innocent grown man. Anyway, enough about him. He's probably high as fuck right now, and trying to pick up a tranny somewhere in Wilton Manors. In fact, I hope he does. lol

rockabilly
06-27-2010, 05:22 AM
Christmas is about giving.

Nicole Dupre
06-27-2010, 05:46 AM
Thats a very valid point. Personaly I'm in an lrt with a GG but have a strong attraction to TS/TG. Do I hide that? I'm afraid to say I do. If I was in an ltr and in love with a TS would I annouce the fact to my loved ones? That depends on the indiviual I'm with. Lets not beat around the bush, coming out(so to speak) will change the lives of everyone you annouce it to, and that very fact alone means it's going to take someone like me(if I was single) to be in love with the most amamzing person in the world and I still would keep my trap shut unless my (TS) g/f wanted me to tell everyone who she really was.

Which brings up another point:

You're in a ltr with a passable TS who is looking at srs, would she expect you to tell everyone that she is a TS? I don't think so becuase:

1) She is wanting to become a female, why would she want it to known that she started life as a male?

2) You could have the most opened minded family in the world but a son announcing to his family that he is going out with a TS will cause alot of deep thinking for everyone involved. So why would the (T/S)g/f want to inflict that kind of heartache on her loved one? Especially seen as she wants to be a female anyway?



That's a sad state of affairs for everyone invloved, most of all for the GG your clients are married to. I'm lucky in that I'll never be pressurised into having children,(my g/f has made it abundantly clear to everyone who'll listen that she doesn't want children) so I can't counterpoint this. Apart from to say for me I never want kids so if I wanted to be with a completely passable TS who didn't want me to advertise that fact I'd be on easy street.



I reply as I always have done "everyone to their own." This has been my attitude towards people all through my life. I'm a TS virgin, and will remain so until single.(then you all better watch out!:))

In this particular scenario annoucing you penchant for TS wouldn't serve any purpose apart from to alienate you from your friends, friends who aren't neccessarily bad people, but just not as open minded as we are. UNLESS you are 100% certain you are in a relationship with THE ONE and can't think of a better time to say"You know what lads...."

It's not that we all want to scream from a rooftop that we were born with cocks. lol

But lets say I was going to marry someone. What do I do? Not invite my parents to the wedding? Or tell them to 'avoid mentioning' that I was born with male plumbing to my in-laws? Tell them to not discuss the fact that their daughter can't carry a baby? After a while, all of that stuff becomes baggage.

But other than being a sex worker, my gender situation is not anything that I have a need to confront in public. My life is EXTREMELY compartmentalized, and that's how I like it. When I'm done with being a sex worker some day, "Nicole Dupre" will essentially fall off the face of the earth. Trust me. You people only know my tea because I want you to. :cool:

giovanni_hotel
06-28-2010, 08:34 PM
What a 1st post, sloopy3 !!!

sucka4chix
06-28-2010, 08:38 PM
so is it ok; for me be who i am...and keep my sexuality to myself.. And if i feel like sharing it i would if i dont i wont... Is that wrong?

nope!!!!!!

Nicole Dupre
06-28-2010, 09:22 PM
Now im 33 yeard old have 2 kids with two different mothers... Had then 13 years ago... Been in a relationship with a girl that was bi for 7 years.. She knew i had sex before with a ts... We broke up couse. She wanted to settel down but i was still working on my career.... Im single... Tried to be in relationship but i realize after all these years that i wasnt build for relationships...

.. I love females and ts... Just last year i realize that i've been fucking myself since i was 18 and thats along time to wonder if im gay or straight.. But the fact of the matter is not sexually attracted to gay men.. I never did like men or fem guys or whatever lies in that category... Transexual turn me on because i love the feminine quality and that fact that some of your sexy girls have nice size cocks that i love to suck and get fucked by.... Yes i love cock just as much as my ts girls do... You like it from straight or bi guys... I like it from ts girls.....

Now... My life; my world....
My mother have anxiety and depression problems do i need to freak her out more about things i dont need her to freak out about... No

im single do i have a girl friend that needs to know that about me no.. ( and if i did have a girlfriend she would have to be very sexual open-minded person)... It wouldn't be fair to date some one who isnt sexual as i am... So instead of lieing or having to cheat... I rather find equal interest...

Basically if i dated a ts i would make sure we had an understanding about my life as much as i would respect hers... My kids family and those friends that i had for over 5 years dont need to know... As much as they have there on private life...

Now am i bi? That depends who's asking.. Do i consider myself bi? Yeah more like bi-polar..lol jk.....i dont know... But like i said... I love pussy and i love big or normal size cock on a sexy ts girl if i cant fuck or get fucked by one... I'll just buy myself a big fucking dildo and continue on fucking my self.... And have my prostate orgasm and anal orgasm for hours.. As i've been doing for over 15 years...

Me liking ts girls and females is no different then a girl who would cheat on you with another male... And who knows if he doesnt like the same thing as me or he might be gay or femboy lover on the low.....

So is it ok; for me be who i am...and keep my sexuality to myself.. And if i feel like sharing it i would if i dont i wont... Is that wrong?Of course not. Adults have the right to their privacy. "Don't ask, don't tell" is the next best thing to being open about it. Beyond that, if you want to be open about who you are, you pick the times and places.

What's sad are the self-hating guys, like all of these politicians who they ironically catch sucking dick. They're the first people to crusade against the GLBT community. It's the guys who want to be with a TS, but who turn around and tell their friends they'd never be caught dead doing "fag shit" who are the biggest assholes. I just think at a certain point, when maintaining privacy turns into emotional baggage, you're only hurting yourself. We all have to ask ourselves what's worth it in life. No one can answer for any of us.

How about this analogy. Before the cultural revolution of the 60's, wanting to be in interracial relationship was a surefire way of asking for trouble. Whether you were black or white, your own race would call you a traitor or worse. Was it easy to be open about discussing what your heart yearned for? Hell no! Was it the mature adult way to approach the situation? Hell to the yeah. Would it take a bit of bravery on the parties involved to pursue a relationship? Of course. But most people don't want to be a martyr. You have to make those judgment calls for yourself.

Don't forget, any TS who has taken steps to transition has already done something very bold. We already went against the odds and came out on the other side. And once we get there, there are still no guarantees. So when the quintessential wussie is bitching that a relationship with a hot tranny hasn't just miraculously fallen into his lap, they'll have to pardon us while we barf and then proceed to start laughing their face.

That's really my point. 99% of guys who bitch about wanting a relationship with a TS have done NOTHING to earn it. We ARE rare. We DO face incredible odds. Behind every serene smile on the face of any lovely TS is a history of struggle. No one hands us our gender identity on a silver platter. Even the most passable of us are an anomaly in the world.

sucka4chix
06-28-2010, 10:39 PM
But you titled this thread suggestions for guys trying to get LAID, not married!
That's 2 very different things and most guys here are only seeking to get laid!
Anywho, I had this argument on another site (which I think ironically banned Nicole), a site that almost made me want to go postal on all trannies on the planet:
the girls have gone through alot--- they have braved alot. But they want to call you an asshole if you're not willing to put yourself through the same thing!!! Although if many people knew what I do they'd call me gay, I'm not gay!! I don't fit in gay society. I know very little about the culture. Most of what I know is from the "straight" world. So when you ask me to put relationships with family and friends I've known and loved for all my life in jeopardy, just for a lifestyle... you have to understand that's foreign to me!! And I don't buy that "if they can't accept it they're not real friends" shit! I have great friends that I know would die for me, that I also know we can't talk about somethings without becoming mortal enemies! That doesn't mean I'm gonna cut them loose as a friend. To me, friends are waaay to hard to come by! What's that they say, bros before hoes? And that's not even talking about Tgirls.
It would be nice if the girls would empathize with the situation WE GUYS WHO LIKE YOU are in.

goode_times
06-28-2010, 10:55 PM
All women, and I include transgendered and transexual in this, desire what I like to call the 3 Ms. That is Money, Muscles and Money. And most will gladly substitute the Muscle for More Money. Its not their fault. Its a primal thing. Since the first humans walked the earth, the female of the species was attracted to the male who could protect and provide for her the best. Protecting and providing these days means having money in the bank, or a good job, or at the very least good prospects, (being in med or law school for example). Again, it is not their fault. It's human nature.

rockabilly
06-28-2010, 11:01 PM
Yeah but plenty of girls end up w/ deadbeats , so nature only applies to some.

Nicole Dupre
06-28-2010, 11:09 PM
But you titled this thread suggestions for guys trying to get LAID, not married!
That's 2 very different things and most guys here are only seeking to get laid!
Anywho, I had this argument on another site (which I think ironically banned Nicole), a site that almost made me want to go postal on all trannies on the planet:
the girls have gone through alot--- they have braved alot. But they want to call you an asshole if you're not willing to put yourself through the same thing!!! Although if many people knew what I do they'd call me gay, I'm not gay!! I don't fit in gay society. I know very little about the culture. Most of what I know is from the "straight" world. So when you ask me to put relationships with family and friends I've known and loved for all my life in jeopardy, just for a lifestyle... you have to understand that's foreign to me!! And I don't buy that "if they can't accept it they're not real friends" shit! I have great friends that I know would die for me, that I also know we can't talk about somethings without becoming mortal enemies! That doesn't mean I'm gonna cut them loose as a friend. To me, friends are waaay to hard to come by! What's that they say, bros before hoes? And that's not even talking about Tgirls.
It would be nice if the girls would empathize with the situation WE GUYS WHO LIKE YOU are in.

lol I'm not necessarily looking for a husband, nor are there any short cuts to get with me. Getting laid is a part of dating. Dating might lead to a LTR, but maybe not.

But if you think you can approach us with the quick fuck or a booty call situation as your goal, then get on Eros and save yourself all the hassles. Unless you want to actually GET TO KNOW US, we have the options; not you guys. I can only speak for myself, but I'm an escort; not a slut.

Maybe write Santa a letter and tell him what a good boy you've been. lol

rockabilly
06-28-2010, 11:12 PM
Tgirls are great stocking stuffers.

ARMANIXXX
06-28-2010, 11:15 PM
lol I'm not necessarily looking for a husband, nor are there any short cuts to get with me. Getting laid is a part of dating. Dating might lead to a LTR, but maybe not.

But if you think you can approach us with the quick fuck or a booty call situation as your goal, then get on Eros and save yourself all the hassles. Unless you want to actually GET TO KNOW US, we have the options; not you guys. I can only speak for myself, but I'm an escort; not a slut.

Maybe write Santa a letter and tell him what a good boy you've been. lol


The ethical difference between a prostitute and a slut....


I have to be real here.....and at the risk of hurting anyone's feelings, unintentionally.....

I don't think there is a fundamental difference other than a monetary one.

I'm not judging....I'm just saying.

Nicole Dupre
06-28-2010, 11:21 PM
An escort capitalizes on the fact that men expect or want her to be a slut. lol

Nicole Dupre
06-29-2010, 01:22 AM
I HAVE NO PROBLEM IN GETTING TO KNOW TS OR DATE ONE.. THE PROBLEM IS; CAN SHE ACCEPT MY PRIVACY. SEEMS AS MOST TS GOTTA THING AGAINST MEN LIKE US AND WANT TO "EXPOSE US" COUSE WE DONT FOLLOW A SUB CULTURE OR A LIFESTYLE AS sucka4chix SAID EARLIER....


Not true. Most trannys simply want to know that, if anyone does learn her birth gender, that you won't put your tail between your legs and bail out on her. Look at the shit that Tula went through.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caroline_Cossey#Modeling_career_and_outing_by_the_ tabloid_press

giovanni_hotel
06-29-2010, 02:28 AM
Most escorts, even more so for TGs IMO, are safer with a client's privacy than a bank safety deposit box.

I'd like to think if say, I were out in a social situation with someone like Nicole and someone 'went there' with her, that I would be man enough to act like a man and BE her man, and not punk or fade out.

I just read that wiki post about Tula, and wondered if a girl would be outed in such a way today if she was a top print model and cast in mainstream movie roles.

Gay men are still protected and covered in the entertainment industry, but it still seems socially acceptable to 'out' male H'wood celeb when he's discovered to be with a tgirl - Matt LeBlanc and Eddie Murphy.

Felicia Katt
06-29-2010, 02:39 AM
Most escorts, even more so for TGs IMO, are safer with a client's privacy than a bank safety deposit box.

I'd like to think if say, I were out in a social situation with someone like Nicole and someone 'went there' with her, that I would be man enough to act like a man and BE her man, and not punk or fade out.

I just read that wiki post about Tula, and wondered if a girl would be outed in such a way today if she was a top print model and cast in mainstream movie roles.

Gay men are still protected and covered in the entertainment industry, but it still seems socially acceptable to 'out' male H'wood celeb when he's discovered to be with a tgirl - Matt LeBlanc and Eddie Murphy.
I think you mean Matt Lauer?

FK

OEMEnemyNum1
06-29-2010, 02:59 AM
a completely passable TS who didn't want me to advertise that fact I'd be on easy street.

Score! That would be one lucky dude

Nicole Dupre
06-29-2010, 03:22 AM
Or maybe Collin Farrell. Didn't he try to bang a tranny at a Versace party in Miami?

giovanni_hotel
06-29-2010, 04:54 AM
I remember reading in the Enquirer that Matt LeBlanc had a chauffeur claim he arranged hookups for him in his limo, I thought there were tgirls involved but I can't find a source.

Felicia Katt
06-29-2010, 05:17 AM
every limo has a tranny but unless Matt's had two.... :)

FK

TsVanessa69
06-29-2010, 07:17 AM
every limo has a tranny but unless Matt's had two.... :)

FK
I rember a few years ago limo's would cruise around outside lucho's and I hopped in a few myself!:whistle::wiggle::wiggle::jerkoff:jerkoff

TsVanessa69
06-29-2010, 07:19 AM
An escort capitalizes on the fact that men expect or want her to be a slut. lol
And the funny thing is they do!
Sometimes even guys that I wish didnt

Virtualdistance
06-29-2010, 04:50 PM
1. Go to the gym. No girl likes a fatty, or a man with bigger boobs than what you get from HRT.

I hate the gym but im deffing myself by eating much less food and no sugars/syntheticly produced shit yayo:[/QUOTE]



2. Tell everyone
Wont work with me , i like keeping my tranny obsession a secret :smoking




Imagine how liberating this will feel. Sex without the guilt is the sex you NEED.

Where's the fun with that?! I need a sweet sensational ts encounter and nobody should know about my personal preferences...





3. Get a personality.

Nah too risky , too much bum-style practiced i'd rather like to go out as myself might go out in style putting best clothes on etc lol...




And what do you want to talk about? :geek:

I wanna talk about you , tell me more about yourself ;)




When you try too hard or worry too much, you will never get a date.

Yea , it should be slow ... No more blindfolds , no more whips and stuff .. Straight from the heart :D ahh and one more thing , third time's a charm right?

GrimFusion
06-29-2010, 10:53 PM
1. Go to the gym. No girl likes a fatty, or a man with bigger boobs than what you get from HRT.

2. Tell everyone, starting with your family, that you're attracted to trannys. Imagine how liberating this will feel. Sex without the guilt is the sex you NEED. And then, when you clock a tranny on the street and think about how fun it would be to blow her, you won't get any gray hairs worrying about your mommy wondering if you're a homo.

3. Get a personality. No one cares about your vast knowledge on all topics couch-potato. I'm talking about going out and having character-shaping life-experiences for a change. Wtf? A girl transcends her genitalia and birth gender, and becomes a self-actualized human being. And what do you want to talk about? You favorite Marvel Comics movie? There's a time and place for everything. Learn those times and places, you socially retarded dorks. :geek:

Mix and match, and add your own. :-)

Btw obnoxious guys like Indy Closet are much closer to their objective than 99% of you are. Why? Because he doesn't give a shit. When you try too hard or worry too much, you will never get a date.



Really, Nicole? I'd consider you the last person who should be passing along advice to men looking to get laid. Despite my opinion that you're a bitter shell of a human being, you do express a few valid opinions.

I've spent the majority of my life being overweight (and having man boobs). I haven't been fit since being involved in a car accident after high school, and I'm just now getting back to where I was then. Now that I'm thin again, I can tell you it's not easier getting laid as a thin guy than as a fat man. I'm not hooking up with hotter ladies; I'm not having sex more often. If anything, the only change I've seen is that the ugly, overweight chicks who used to consider sleeping with me are now all over my genitalia.

Have I ever mentioned that I absolutely hate it when you jump to conclusions and assume every dude on here is some kind of dick-obsessed tranny chaser? Your second point is pretty valid, but men shouldn't be outing a Tgirl hookup or girlfriend to avoid an awkward conversation or two. Honestly, I don't think any of that should be discussed unless it's asked... and if it's asked, then be honest about it. That doesn't mean a forced phone call to mommy and daddy the second week into a light relationship just to tell them the girlfriend enjoys getting her dick sucked once in a blue moon. Yes, there are guys who seek out Tgirls with the sole purpose of providing fellatio, but realistically, how often are they actually getting dick-to-face without paying for it?

As a transsexual, you've probably already faced your fair share of exclusion and bigotry from family and friends. If you had to come to grips with watching everyone you know fall away, I'm sorry. However, usually there's one or two close friends who stick it out with you, and if you're in a relationship, you should probably be there for your dude to help him through his drama a bit, too. Not that it's your responsibility; you may have already dealt with your fair share of it; it's just the kind thing to do.

Lastly, you probably shouldn't be giving personality tips when your personality sort of blows goats for quarters. I can only go by the dramatic crap threads I've seen you involved in, but as far as I can tell, you don't have the best reputation in regards to dealing with men. In fact, it's a little funny you used the word "transcends" to describe your transition from genetic male to transgendered. I hope I wasn't the only person to catch that tidbit of sexism. Transitioning doesn't automatically make you an interesting person nor does it mean you deserve an interesting person.

In all actuality, this isn't even a very helpful topic for men. In fact, it'll do little more than make the most annoying tranny chasers all that much better at lying to cover their tracks, and to think I believed you hated men this whole time. Go you! XD


Wtf? A girl transcends her genitalia and birth gender, and becomes a self-actualized human being.That's funny... what were you before becoming human?

GrimFusion
06-29-2010, 11:15 PM
And the funny thing is they do!
Sometimes even guys that I wish didnt

That's the thing with prostitution, though. The guys you're hooking up with will never see the cash transaction as donation toward transition or college. If they pay you and treat you unusually well, it's probably in hopes that the next session might come with a discount.

giovanni_hotel
06-29-2010, 11:20 PM
Nicole's point was about SELF-ACTUALIZATION, not becoming a human being.

But nice attempt anyway at shade, GRim.

And you're the ONLY former fatty I know of who claims that you don't have more success with the ladies now than you had before as a quarter tonner.

Might want to refer back to point #3.

GrimFusion
06-30-2010, 12:30 AM
Nicole's point was about SELF-ACTUALIZATION, not becoming a human being.

But nice attempt anyway at shade, GRim.

And you're the ONLY former fatty I know of who claims that you don't have more success with the ladies now than you had before as a quarter tonner.

Might want to refer back to point #3.

I think you missed the bus this morning, man. Her point wasn't about simple self-actualization. If you read her post, her point was that after her self-actualization, she somehow thinks she deserves a better brand of dude.

I love that "quarter tonner" line of yours. You do know that's about 500 pounds, right? Hey, whatever. I can appreciate a little colorful embellishment as much as anyone else.

As far as my sex life goes, I got around alright while I was hefty. I've never been so horribly overweight I've had sex droughts. That would probably be why I don't see a whole lot of difference. The point I was trying to make is that now that I've lost the weight, I don't have attractive chicks clawing at my door. I still have to do the work, and it's not as though it's LESS work.

Nicole Dupre
06-30-2010, 01:00 AM
Oh, look! The angry, fat cartoonist with man-boobs has returned! lol (Were your man-boobs an erogenous zone? I've noticed that men with softer chests like their nipples touched and twisted more often.)

Before I transitioned? I guess I was a femme faggot. I never liked girls sexually, although I always admired them. My first sexual impulses were to kiss boys. When I was less than two, I got into a disagreement with my mom (my EARLIEST memory btw) because she told me that if I went "peepee" like my father, that meant I was a boy. I disagreed and threw temper tantrums, and insisted that they paint my nails pink. They caved in, and let my grandmother do it. This was actually very progressive behavior for them. Back in Sicily, my dad's father probably would thrown his kid down a well if one of them was a "fag", and just said the lil' homo "mysteriously disappeared". lol But they stopped indulging me with painting my nails and letting me act like a sissy right before I was enrolled in the Montessori School. Then, when I was around 12 or so, they just came to the conclusion that, if I really thought that I was supposed to be a girl, it meant I was "gay". So I grew up thinking I was gay, even though I knew it was way more complicated than that. lol

I ran away from home at 16, and started "dressing" in public. I actually sucked dicks on the corner of Jane St & the West Side Hwy in Manhattan, and over by the Westbeth, until one night a bottle came flying at my head. It scared the shit out of me, so I stopped... for a while. lol In my home town, I was sometimes referred to as an "art fag" and "punk faggot", which I guess I was.

Lee Brewster actually told me when I was about 14 that I was a "transvestite", because "crossdressers" were straight and I really wasn't (I was not into girls sexually). Lee was the sweetest man ever. He was a drag queen early on, and later owned a store that catered to the M2F "community". RIP Lee Brewster. Is that Is that what you mean? lol

Anyway, when I got my pre-HRT 'mone levels looked at by a doctor about 5 yrs ago, he told me I could get a caryotype test to determine if I was "intersexed" or if I have something like Klinefelter's Syndrome. I told them it didn't really have any bearing on whether or not I was going to go F/T anyway, but said "maybe someday", which I still may. At this point, I'd like to know. Even as a scrawny teen, I always had my own lil' boy boobs. lol These days, I'm going back to Callen-Lorde, and I trust them with determining stuff like that.

Wait. What was the question again? Why am I a bitch? I dunno. Every M2F I knew early in life was pretty catty. I guess it's my trans-upbringing. I kiki at clueless straight guys getting their heads fucked with, when I think they're putting on a defensive macho act. I suppose that's because they're always the first guys who will suck your dick one minute, and tell their wives that they're "no faggot" when they get home. They're the world's biggest hypocrites. Anyway, I'm actually pretty monogamous by nature. I see being a provider as a job, although I know most of you can't fathom that.

But let me ask you something. You say that I generalize. But if I do, it's based on what I've seen. Unless you've compared notes with all of these guys who claim I'm pre-judging, how the hell do you know if they're a bunch of lying, cock-thirsty faggots at heart? Who would really be able to make that generalization more accurately? Me or you?

princevince89
06-30-2010, 04:16 AM
heres how you do it...save up money

dc_guy_75
06-30-2010, 05:16 AM
Nicole,
Nice shout out to Lee Brewster.
In the late 90's I dated a performer who used to get a lot of her stuff there. I went with her to that second floor boutique on 14th st... Lee supported her and totally subsidized her wardrobe.
Lee was a unique person running a unique place.

GrimFusion
06-30-2010, 05:19 AM
Oh, look! The angry, fat cartoonist with man-boobs has returned! lol (Were your man-boobs an erogenous zone? I've noticed that men with softer chests like their nipples touched and twisted more often.)
I guess I've returned. Just a lot less fat, a little less angry, and I dropped the whole cartoonist bit in favor of Photoshop. As far as that nipple question is concerned, I'm weird. I've never liked my nipples touched. I defend my areolas like I defend my netherbits. I'm a sensitive man. :dancing:


Before I transitioned? I guess I was a femme faggot. I never liked girls sexually, although I always admired them. My first sexual impulses were to kiss boys. When I was less than two, I got into a disagreement with my mom (my EARLIEST memory btw) because she told me that if I went "peepee" like my father, that meant I was a boy. I disagreed and threw temper tantrums, and insisted that they paint my nails pink. They caved in, and let my grandmother do it. This was actually very progressive behavior for them. Back in Sicily, my dad's father probably would thrown his kid down a well if one of them was a "fag", and just said the lil' homo "mysteriously disappeared". lol But they stopped indulging me with painting my nails and letting me act like a sissy right before I was enrolled in the Montessori School. Then, when I was around 12 or so, they just came to the conclusion that, if I really thought that I was supposed to be a girl, it meant I was "gay". So I grew up thinking I was gay, even though I knew it was way more complicated than that. lol
Partial acceptance is better than none at all, I guess. Back in high school, I knew a chick named Nell who's parents basically disowned her and sent her ass from Seattle down here to Portland to live with her grandparents. Her grandparents pretty much just ignored her until she graduated high school, then they kicked her out without a job to live on the streets.


I ran away from home at 16, and started "dressing" in public. I actually sucked dicks on the corner of Jane St & the West Side Hwy in Manhattan, and over by the Westbeth, until one night a bottle came flying at my head. It scared the shit out of me, so I stopped... for a while. lol In my home town, I was sometimes referred to as an "art fag" and "punk faggot", which I guess I was.
Freedom binges are pure fun, but in retrospect, are often a tad regrettable. Once I got a job as a kid and moved out of my parent's place, I developed a a pretty bad coke habit and ran up a debt a couple of times. I'd be lying if I said I didn't do some pretty fucked up shit I regret to pay down my debt and clean up, but I don't do coke anymore. lol. Guess that's the good news.


Lee Brewster actually told me when I was about 14 that I was a "transvestite", because "crossdressers" were straight and I really wasn't (I was not into girls sexually). Lee was the sweetest man ever. He was a drag queen early on, and later owned a store that catered to the M2F "community". RIP Lee Brewster. Is that Is that what you mean? lol

Anyway, when I got my pre-HRT 'mone levels looked at by a doctor about 5 yrs ago, he told me I could get a caryotype test to determine if I was "intersexed" or if I have something like Klinefelter's Syndrome. I told them it didn't really have any bearing on whether or not I was going to go F/T anyway, but said "maybe someday", which I still may. At this point, I'd like to know. Even as a scrawny teen, I always had my own lil' boy boobs. lol These days, I'm going back to Callen-Lorde, and I trust them with determining stuff like that.
Aren't you thirty-something (if I overshot that a lot, cut me a break)? Wouldn't it be a tad defeatist to transition only to find out later in life there's no evidence you are clinically intersexed? I don't imagine that would change your life, but I'd expect the news to come as a bit of a bummer.


Wait. What was the question again? Why am I a bitch? I dunno. Every M2F I knew early in life was pretty catty. I guess it's my trans-upbringing. I kiki at clueless straight guys getting their heads fucked with, when I think they're putting on a defensive macho act. I suppose that's because they're always the first guys who will suck your dick one minute, and tell their wives that they're "no faggot" when they get home. They're the world's biggest hypocrites. Anyway, I'm actually pretty monogamous by nature. I see being a provider as a job, although I know most of you can't fathom that.
Pretty monogamous? lol. I'm just giving you shit. Why would you have anything to do with married dudes, though? I mean, aside from the ethical issues, you can't exactly expect a guy to suck you off, then go home to his wife and say "Oh, hun... I just found out I'm kinda gay". Honestly, I don't think they're hypocrites, just cheaters with a sense of adventure! Sorry... that was horrible. I know what you mean, though. My girlfriend's Uncle is a classic closet case. He acts as though he's severely homophobic to counter being caught spooning naked on the couch with another dude. Sad shit is, his family knows he's gay and they really don't give a damn. He still won't fess up and live the rest of his life happy.


But let me ask you something. You say that I generalize. But if I do, it's based on what I've seen. Unless you've compared notes with all of these guys who claim I'm pre-judging, how the hell do you know if they're a bunch of lying, cock-thirsty faggots at heart? Who would really be able to make that generalization more accurately? Me or you?
You. I like how you won't claim you don't generalize... you just suggest you have good reason to. When you make an assumption like that around here, you're bound to be right a solid 80% of the time, but when you're wrong, you're just running off the very same people you'd supposedly like to stick around. That sounds a little redundant to me.

That and, I am a tad butthurt because you've pulled that crap with me in the past. Honestly, I don't really care about wearing a rainbow nametag. I just don't think it's completely fair to people you barely know... you bitch! lol.

Anyway, if I stick around here, I'm sure we'll likely end up having other scuffles. We're both bull-headed and full of opinions. Until then, though... I'll try to cut you more slack. It's not like I'm actually pissed or anything. I just got my man-panties in an e-bunch.

Nicole Dupre
06-30-2010, 05:25 AM
Omg. I just responded to you, and now you go and post a bunch of new stuff? I just wasted a solid four minutes typing an additional response. Now I have to delete in light of your new response.

Nicole Dupre
06-30-2010, 05:40 AM
Shit. And I was going to ask you if you knew where I could get some good blow, and now you don't do it? Well, that just sucks. I hope you're proud of your new thin and sober lifestyle. SMDH

And I never said that I didn't generalize. I said that mine are right, and everyone else's are wrong.

As for being intersexed, I just said I was curious. If I'm not, it's not like i'd be crushed or anything. I also was once told by a shrink that I was a "primary" TS, and it's never done me a damn bit of good.

GrimFusion
06-30-2010, 05:56 AM
Shit. And I was going to ask you if you knew where I could get some good blow, and now you don't do it? Well, that just sucks. I hope you're proud of your new thin and sober lifestyle. SMDH

And I never said that I didn't generalize. I said that mine are right, and everyone else's are wrong.

As for being intersexed, I just said I was curious. If I'm not, it's not like i'd be crushed or anything. I also was once told by a shrink that I was a "primary" TS, and it's never done me a damn bit of good.

Sober? Pfft! You're funny. I'm a pot head from hell, and I'll be damned; I guess we do have something in common. I'm always right, too.

Nicole Dupre
06-30-2010, 06:15 AM
Nicole,
Nice shout out to Lee Brewster.
In the late 90's I dated a performer who used to get a lot of her stuff there. I went with her to that second floor boutique on 14th st... Lee supported her and totally subsidized her wardrobe.
Lee was a unique person running a unique place.

Lee was the first person to make me feel that being who I was wasn't abnormal. And he knew damn well that I was basically just a kid, even though I wasn't offering that info. lol But I wasn't really there for any of the adult mags or vids. ;)

And yes, that store was VERY unique, and so was Lee. He was no push over, but he didn't have a mean bone in his body.

dc_guy_75
06-30-2010, 07:21 AM
Haha, i forgot about the back closet filled with black and white magazines and a few dozen vhs tapes... it was back in the Edelweiss, pre-Guliani days... when Manhattan still had an edge.

Its good to hear he was good to you, he was so cool.

Nicole Dupre
06-30-2010, 02:31 PM
I was in college, living in Hells Kitchen, when Guliani came in. Edelweiss was down the street. But at that point I wanted an education, and knew Edelweiss would be a... "distraction". lol I worked F/T and was studying fine art at SVA fulltime. My life was BUSY, although I occasionally was "entertaining gentlemen" at my place. I lived on 51 and 11th ave, and my rent was 200/mo, which I could barely afford. lol I'd eat one or two small meals a day; usually an order of fries from the Munson diner. lol After the student loans, a fine art BA is about as potentially profitable to acquire as a ski mask and a gun. lol

Nicole Dupre
06-30-2010, 11:51 PM
Ahem! There is a gentleman here, on this very thread, who needs to dump some PMs so I can send him a new one. :)

GullyFoyle
07-04-2010, 06:06 AM
Ahem! There is a gentleman here, on this very thread, who needs to dump some PMs so I can send him a new one. :)

I knew you were protesting too much when you kept insulting Rockabilly. ;) Are you going to be sexting him next?

Nicole Dupre
07-04-2010, 06:14 AM
I like Rockabilly. I always did. I just got weirded out by his sales pitch to be my BF last year. The Rock-meister and I are cool, as far as I know.

Rockabilly, if you have 3 bills, you can be my extra-special BF for 60 minutes. Until then, we remain platonic. Capiche, Long Dong Silver? ;-) lol

rockabilly
07-04-2010, 03:50 PM
Aye Aye captain lol

I'm gonna borrow a phrase from True Blood and say "I belong to someone" and "I am hers" and i'm faithful so thank you but no thank you Nicole.

drock
07-21-2010, 01:48 AM
What an intresting topic