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lar2564
11-02-2005, 08:36 PM
I was visiting this website

www.tsgirlfriend.com under

It mentioned this and I quote it

"TS's tell me that most of the guys who contact them are, in fact, bisexual or bi-curious. They say these men are often looking for a same-sex experience but packaged in such a way that they have deniability. They seek to deny (to themselves, probably) that sex with a person who has both tits and a dick is homosexual in nature, when the guy is sucking that dick or getting fucked by it."

Just wanted to see if many here felt that this is true and what comments people had about it, both tgirls and guys

JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel
11-02-2005, 09:38 PM
personally I don't think anyone else on this PLANET has the ability or the right to JUDGE another individual and tell them who or what they are........
part of the problem with society is that we let groups or individuals mentally staple a label on particular people successfully, that shit needs to stop..............
if you do a search you'll find similar topics to the one you just posted, though not exactly alike what is interesting is that at times we've had people on this board say to other people "you are this" or "you are that"; and I've always said to myself "who made them GOD???"

IMO you are who you choose to be, a few sexual experiences of your choosing do not make you anything, it's the choices you make that determine your future that determine who you truly are........

don't ever let anyone insecure with themselves draw you into their circle of misconception

hwbs
11-02-2005, 09:54 PM
agreed about the insecure part 100 percent....like they say "misery loves company"......they just try to drag you in..... :2cent

lar2564
11-02-2005, 10:19 PM
yeah, I searched on the engines before hand and found similar topics, but not exactly the same. Just wanted to see what others thought about the quote.

Personally, I think we do too many labels on this planet. Asian, White, Black, Gay, Straight, etc., but I don't think the labels do a good job encompassing people. Afterall, are all asians truly alike? Are chinese really that similar to flipinos? Is a person who prefer to be with women and men equally (bisexual) the same as a man who lives a married life with children, but does have occasional encouters with tgirls? The latter perhaps are both part as bisexual, but are they truly the same.

Point is how could a label truly encompass what a person is about. My significant other knows about my past encounters with tgirls and when she knew, she asked "are you gay than?" Don't really know how to answer that because I don't think I am the same as those gay guys out there nor are they the same as each other? Just the label doesn't seem to completely encompass me.

BeardedOne
11-02-2005, 10:52 PM
In the past I had no problems identifying as a bisexual. Then the New York Times came along last June and spoiled my party. Not happy with labelling me a bisexual, they chose their more comfortable term of lieing (Sp?) homosexual.

Then there was the psych term someone threw at me a while back, of transhomosexual (A gay person that was attracted to gay people of the opposite gender) which explained the preponderance of lesbians and women-identified bi women (Oh, 'scuse me, "female liars" according to the Times) in my past.

Finally, I considered the traits I share with our fiery brethren in that I can sometimes be a shallow, ageist size-queen, just like my male lovers.

So, now I am in my T-girl "phase". What to call myself?

Screw it! Just call me in time for my closeup Mr. Demille. :soapbox

Hugh Jarrod
11-02-2005, 11:12 PM
Sounds like one of those gurls with a bitter disposition. Those kind that say "Just admit it you're gay!" etc. etc.

MacShreach
11-02-2005, 11:30 PM
sex with a person who has both tits and a dick is homosexual in nature, when the guy is sucking that dick or getting fucked by it."


Yup. No question about it at all. Does it bother you?

bartholomeus
11-03-2005, 12:07 AM
some doctors acutally say thats the psychological explanation.... but personally i think its BS... you like what you like. I for one can't imagine having sex with a guy but a completely femenine ts i like.
Not to insult any of the guys here (im a guy myself) i think we are disgusting and couldnt feel less repulsed.

I feel like everyone thinks everything needs an explanation... so riddle me this if everything does need an explanation, then there has to be one to just for being 100% hetero. Why does everyone have to explain TS, gay, etc... ? just because its not accepted by society doest mean antyhing. Clearly if it happens in humans its part of nature.

lar2564
11-03-2005, 12:20 AM
sex with a person who has both tits and a dick is homosexual in nature, when the guy is sucking that dick or getting fucked by it."


Yup. No question about it at all. Does it bother you?

lol

Squareman
01-16-2008, 09:38 PM
Yeah that's about right, I don't really find Men attractive, something about beards, and hair or lack-therefore of, manly chests, man-breath :p

T-girls are girls, just different, they have different turn-ons from other girls, they have a cock and you get a visual orgasm(from some), you're a bit more likely to find one that enjoys anal sex, etc, etc.

laoda8
01-16-2008, 09:43 PM
personally I don't think anyone else on this PLANET has the ability or the right to JUDGE another individual and tell them who or what they are........
part of the problem with society is that we let groups or individuals mentally staple a label on particular people successfully, that shit needs to stop..............
if you do a search you'll find similar topics to the one you just posted, though not exactly alike what is interesting is that at times we've had people on this board say to other people "you are this" or "you are that"; and I've always said to myself "who made them GOD???"

IMO you are who you choose to be, a few sexual experiences of your choosing do not make you anything, it's the choices you make that determine your future that determine who you truly are........

don't ever let anyone insecure with themselves draw you into their circle of misconception

No words have been spoken as clear or as true as they are when spoken by the Buckstrap of Hollywood

tsmandy
01-16-2008, 09:47 PM
Just wanted to see if many here felt that this is true and what comments people had about it, both tgirls and guys

I think for some people this is true, and for some it is not. In my experience there are some guys who use TS women as a way to explore alternatives to their unsatisfactory hetero sex-life. They've always wanted to suck cock, but they are not sure if they are gay.

I am bi-sexual, open, out, proud, and loud as they say. So I get really bored when guys start obsessing over it, wake me up when we get to the good part, you know?

Some guys just want to nail a hot lady, and they don't distinguish between trans and non-trans. I've had almost as many guys tell me that they've always been hot for tall thin women with perky tits, I'm their type. Which has made some GG providers a little uneasy, because I'm taller, thinner, my breasts are perkier, and I don't have to do a goddamn thing to be that way.

My point is....some guys see a TS escort because they really do want to explore, and that is totally fine. Some guys date TS because we're the hottest gals around.

Leave your boxes in storage and your house will be a lot less cluttered.

62des
01-16-2008, 11:30 PM
Here we go again with another fuckin label thread when there's already one not too far from here.

trrlex
01-16-2008, 11:57 PM
There's far less ambiguity to the "am I gay/bi" question than many here would have us believe.

Strictly speaking, if you're a man that enjoys having sex with someone that has a penis, you're at least a little bi-sexual. There's absolutely no denying that. It doesn't matter if they look like a woman in every other facet; they still have male genitalia. And obviously it's that particular aspect that people here find attractive about t-girls; otherwise, they might as well just be into GGs exclusively.

Odelay
01-17-2008, 02:10 AM
I totally reject the notion that I need to deny anything. 8)

bezane
01-17-2008, 02:48 AM
We are all homos and going to hell for it. I hope I can get a hot deal on an apartment next to Gia Darling.

tgirlzoe
01-17-2008, 02:55 AM
Why resurrect this particular "am i gay?" thread from 2005? We don't have enough around?

hondarobot
01-17-2008, 03:00 AM
Honestly, the bisexual guys (who identify as such) I know in the Real World are all a bit weird. Bisexual girls? I don't know of anyone who has a problem with that.

The bi-guys. . . I don't know, I'm always worried they are going to try and slip me a roofie, or something. Sneak attack kinda thing.

:lol:

No offense intended, I'm just being honest.

whatislove
01-17-2008, 03:01 AM
at first I read it as derriers. OH Hell yeah! was the answer!

The actual topic is beneath my reply.

Nowhere
01-17-2008, 03:38 AM
Look, guys who are into tgirls are into both female and male parts (female form, and the c*ck).

If that isn't the definition of bisexuality, I don't know what is.

hondarobot
01-17-2008, 04:53 AM
Look, guys who are into tgirls are into both female and male parts (female form, and the c*ck).

If that isn't the definition of bisexuality, I don't know what is.

That actually is probably true in many cases with guys on this site. Nothing wrong with that. Personally, I wouldn't french kiss Tom Selleck. If a guy kisses Magnum P.I., he's gay (or possibly bi).

I only kiss girls. That's all there is to it, as far as I'm concerned.

jmecross2
01-17-2008, 05:29 AM
I don't get all the angst about sexual orientation on a site that goes by the name hungangels.

In my humble opinion, this is not very cool.

It is funny, but not in a good way.

hondarobot
01-17-2008, 05:49 AM
I don't get all the angst about sexual orientation on a site that goes by the name hungangels.

In my humble opinion, this is not very cool.

It is funny, but not in a good way.

I believe this poster is the Los Vegas Kidney Thief. I'm just saying.

jmecross2
01-17-2008, 06:17 AM
I just spent the last week and a half in Vegas, but I don't remember much.

So maybe you're right.

thompsonforsheriff
01-17-2008, 08:02 AM
Being attracted to transsexuals does not make you bisexual. The average person isn't aroused by genitalia. I'm sure there are some people who are, but it's most likely some kind of fetish. I've never been aroused by looking exclusively at genitalia. It's a woman's curves, legs, and their waist-to-hip ratio that makes them attractive. Which is why male homosexuals don't generally find passable transsexuals sexually attractive. I don't think bisexual, homosexual, and heterosexual are necessarily bad "labels" either; they are scientific terms as well that denote which set of aesthetic sexual characteristics a person is attracted to in relation to their own gender. So I think people who know themselves and have an open mind are some of the people that are into transsexuals; they realize it's not the penis that makes them attractive. There are autogynephiles(sp?) that are into transsexuals as well(myself). There are also probably bisexuals who wouldn't mind being with a transsexual because they're attracted to the female form and obviously don't mind a penis, but I've known bisexuals who weren't into transsexuals too. And there is probably the occasionally repressed homosexual male who might be into transsexuals, especially the ones that aren't that passable. There are always exceptions to any rule as well, everyone is different. But anyways, that's my two cents.

trrlex
01-19-2008, 03:10 PM
Being attracted to transsexuals does not make you bisexual.
This really doesn't follow. If a man is attracted to an individual who is biologically male — even one with an outwardly feminine appearance — that would then by definition make him either homo- or bi-sexual.

Also, you submit that the "average person" is not aroused by genitalia; I disagree. If it were just the "curves" we were interested in, none of us would probably be here right now.

skybuddha
01-19-2008, 04:02 PM
personally I don't think anyone else on this PLANET has the ability or the right to JUDGE another individual and tell them who or what they are........
part of the problem with society is that we let groups or individuals mentally staple a label on particular people successfully, that shit needs to stop..............
if you do a search you'll find similar topics to the one you just posted, though not exactly alike what is interesting is that at times we've had people on this board say to other people "you are this" or "you are that"; and I've always said to myself "who made them GOD???"

IMO you are who you choose to be, a few sexual experiences of your choosing do not make you anything, it's the choices you make that determine your future that determine who you truly are........

don't ever let anyone insecure with themselves draw you into their circle of misconception

Thanks for that JWBL .





I was visiting this website

www.tsgirlfriend.com under

It mentioned this and I quote it

"TS's tell me that most of the guys who contact them are, in fact, bisexual or bi-curious. They say these men are often looking for a same-sex experience but packaged in such a way that they have deniability. They seek to deny (to themselves, probably) that sex with a person who has both tits and a dick is homosexual in nature, when the guy is sucking that dick or getting fucked by it."

Just wanted to see if many here felt that this is true and what comments people had about it, both tgirls and guys

I've only chatted with 2 Tgirls online so far so I'm new at this and I'm definitely no expert and have been trying to learn everything about this new world I discovered and I dont' get how those Tgirls I've bumped into online seem so narrow minded in this way that they seem to think any men who almost mentions the word 'penis' is gay while at the same time almost being in denial that they possess one. Its' like they are arguing against any guy being with them which I find really startling. To constantly put down a guy for being with you when you possess a penis is one sure way to drive him away. I dont' know if its a calculated put down or if they cant' help it but mentioning the word gay in every paragraph is like me mentioning the words man , male and gay to describe them. Its an unfair and undeserved label. I seriously doubt if many who come to a place like this are repressed unless they have far worse demons in the closet than being gay.



Being attracted to transsexuals does not make you bisexual.
This really doesn't follow. If a man is attracted to an individual who is biologically male — even one with an outwardly feminine appearance — that would then by definition make him either homo- or bi-sexual.

Also, you submit that the "average person" is not aroused by genitalia; I disagree. If it were just the "curves" we were interested in, none of us would probably be here right now.

How are transexuals biologically male if they possess female brains given to them by their genetic make up ? Its a gross oversimplification to call them all biologically male.

CrazyAboutTGirls
01-19-2008, 11:56 PM
Ok, firstly, if we are to truly claim (as many do) that a transsexual is a third gender, then, by definition, a male and a transexual relationship is HETEROsexual (ie not the same sex.

However, that is more of a sneaky lawyers argument than a hard fact.

Secondly, the truth is, and I believe this is true of 90% of the people on this site and the TS scene in general, is that people who like TS also like women.

Now I don't buy the closet gay thing, because I don't think there are many gay men out there who are attracted to T-girls.

I have tried sex with guys, and it did nothing for me, so I'm not in the closet, I tried it, and it didn't turn me on.

T-girls however, do.

Labelling people with terms created over 130 years ago (the term homosexual was first used in Austria, 1869) is a bit reductive in relation to the rapidly changing society we live in.

Essentially 'homosexual' behaviour was rampant in Rome and Ancient Greece, but to label it 'homosexual' is to use 19th century language to describe historical events which have no frame of reference to those modern constructs, it was not seen as a gender identity, a social choice, or anything else 'gay' and 'straight' mean to us today.

Fundamentally, to use homo, hetero & bi in the myriad sexual world of the 21st century as the only possible permiatations of human sexuality is doing the same thing, but in reverse.

tsmandy
01-20-2008, 01:14 AM
The Bi-sexual test:

1.You are at an orgy, and another guy starts to fondle your cock, do you

A. Stick it in his mouth and shoot the moon
B. Tell him you only like girls

2. At this same orgy, dudes wife pushes her husband out of the way and tries to sit on your cock, do you:

A. Grab a condom and some lube?
B. Tell her to fuck off, you only like tgirls?

If you answered A both times, then you are probably bi-sexual.

If you answered B both times, then you only like chicks with dicks and most orgies probably won't be very fun, unless its an orgy of tgirls.

If you answered B for #1 and A for #2, then you are attracted to women. All mitigating factors aside, you are probably on the hetero end of things.

As for me, I want it all. With a cherry on top. Please.

62des
01-20-2008, 01:42 AM
Being attracted to transwomen wether you know she's biologically a male or not its perfectly heterosexual. Who gives a shit if the tgirl is attractive nothing you can think of can change your mind BUT wether you choose to act upon it does mean something. People see flesh, not fucking DNA! So stop with this stupid "she's still biological male and being attracted to her makes you bi or gay" bullshit response because bottom line is that people attracted to the female form is straight, its the attraction to her penis that makes the difference.

wombat33
01-20-2008, 03:07 AM
I am not denying. If you like t-girls you are bi because you like gg and tg (the third sex). While I feel strongly that they are not males and I am not gay, I also know I love both things between the legs(tg and gg).

I mean this as a compliment to both admirers and t-girls alike

I have respect for the ladies and us guys who love them.

sdman
11-17-2010, 06:03 PM
I think for some people this is true, and for some it is not. In my experience there are some guys who use TS women as a way to explore alternatives to their unsatisfactory hetero sex-life. They've always wanted to suck cock, but they are not sure if they are gay.

I am bi-sexual, open, out, proud, and loud as they say. So I get really bored when guys start obsessing over it, wake me up when we get to the good part, you know?

Some guys just want to nail a hot lady, and they don't distinguish between trans and non-trans. I've had almost as many guys tell me that they've always been hot for tall thin women with perky tits, I'm their type. Which has made some GG providers a little uneasy, because I'm taller, thinner, my breasts are perkier, and I don't have to do a goddamn thing to be that way.

My point is....some guys see a TS escort because they really do want to explore, and that is totally fine. Some guys date TS because we're the hottest gals around.

Leave your boxes in storage and your house will be a lot less cluttered.

In a lot of peoples minds guys who like or sleep with transsexuals are just as gay as guys who sleep with men. To me it doesnt matter what they think.

nicebrn
11-17-2010, 08:54 PM
When this comes up in real life (and it does with depressing regularity for people that have to put me in a box), I identify as bi with a strong preference for t-girls, since there's a very narrow range of guys that I find attractive (coincidentally they tend to have the same form as the lovely Mandy).

I figure that in the beginning, many men who start experimenting with t-girls are bi, and often (but not always) in denial about it. Over time this tends to change, though they still may keep it in the closet. I knew I was bi in high school, but I was totally undercover until about four years ago, and didn't out myself to anyone close to me until about two years ago.

The Bi-sexual test:
[...]
If you answered B both times, then you only like chicks with dicks and most orgies probably won't be very fun, unless its an orgy of tgirls.

If you answered B for #1 and A for #2, then you are attracted to women. All mitigating factors aside, you are probably on the hetero end of things.

As for me, I want it all. With a cherry on top. Please.
...or take a Third Option both times, and:

1c) ask him if he's into cross-dressing, because he'll get a better reaction (though in practice, for group situations everyone is on the menu if they're hot enough).

2c) call him back over and put myself in a sandwich. :D

joey1980
11-17-2010, 08:57 PM
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BellaBellucci
11-17-2010, 09:00 PM
I am denying bisexuality. There is no such thing. We're all just gay men.

http://www.cartoonstock.com/newscartoons/cartoonists/rma/lowres/rman4722l.jpg

:lol: :lol: :lol:

~BB~

joey1980
11-17-2010, 09:05 PM
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nicebrn
11-17-2010, 09:12 PM
I don't see the big deal about "identifying" with gay/straight/bi/ts

Basically your sexuality is what you make of it. If you like to stick your cock in as many things as possible like I do, I don't see the need to limit my options.

A lot of this stuff stems from the fear of being labeled as gay.

Get over it, enjoy your sex life while you can, because once you're old and wrinkly what does it matter anyway?
Well, it seems to be an overwhelming human characteristic to categorize everything. It's sometimes amusing, but also very tiresome. Blame Adam; he started it. :D

...and that fear is a valid concern for some people. At one of my more recent jobs I noticed a distinct change in my co-workers' attitudes when I started dropping little hints, not to mention the very predictable reaction I got from my immediate family when I finally decided to let them know just who I prefer to spend my time with. Not everyone has the strength or desire to deal with that BS.

Bobzz
11-18-2010, 04:30 AM
Can we put this shit to rest already?

How about this?

http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/SavageLove?oid=5542868

Merkurie
11-18-2010, 05:36 AM
No. Guys who like T-girls are not bisexual deniers. Although most people just think they are Gay. Most people also think T-girls are men; which is patently ignorant and false. A transwoman may be male, may have been a boy, but a man -- no way.

Spend any time around gay men and you will know why men who are attracted to transgirls are not gay -- gay men are into masculinity. They are into Men -- not just dicks.

Most people follow the herd, and to them same genital sex is gay, the truth is much deeper than that. And they are afraid to let themselves be tempted for fear that they will be cast out of the herd.

Anyway -- genderqueer people are sexy period. There is no need to squeeze oneself into a false binary gender system.

natina
11-18-2010, 02:11 PM
not all gay men want a masculine man,many want a feminine man.

LibertyHarkness
11-18-2010, 02:17 PM
me i am just a faggot with Tits :) hehe

LibertyHarkness
11-18-2010, 02:18 PM
infact my new website is going to be called fagottswithtits dot com ... and this months top fag is ... can see the marketing now .. it will be epic :)

Mari_Mar
11-18-2010, 05:54 PM
not all gay men want a masculine man,many want a feminine man.




True. And that's precisely what causes confusion for mainstream society. However, in actuality, there is a world of difference (both appearance and demeanor) between most t-girls and most flaming gay boys.

FIRSTTIMER
11-18-2010, 09:27 PM
are guys who are attracted to tgirls bisexual deniers?
Maybe for most but if you are a bisexual guy wouldn't you have to be sexually attracted to men in general?

I don't look at a guy and say I want to fuck him.I will say that I have watched some gay porn and thought that some "twinks" could make a cute T-GIRL.And no watching gay porn does not make me gay.I am comfortable just watching sex.

Now as far as the fact that T-GIRLS were born male I guess that does make us bisexual.Or bi-curious.

Ben
11-18-2010, 10:55 PM
What about the guys who actually have sex -- say: oral and a hand job -- with a shemale and still deny the "possibility" of even being gay -- or bisexual.
I think we're all probably bisexual. Freud believed that. It just seems the most natural. It seems instinctual.
I mean, a lot of guys here like Derrick Barry.... (Pic below.)
Question: Are men who like shemales more attracted to the BREASTS or the PENIS???

BellaBellucci
11-18-2010, 10:56 PM
Freud believed that.

Don't you mean Kinsey?

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What about the guys who actually have sex -- say: oral and a hand job -- with a shemale

Don't you mean 'transsexual?' :geek: :lol:

~BB~

Ben
11-18-2010, 11:25 PM
Don't you mean Kinsey?

Kinsey scale - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinsey_scale)



Don't you mean 'transsexual?' :geek: :lol:

~BB~

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“ Freud maintained that bisexuality was a normal part of development.... Freud felt there were a number of homosexuals he encountered who did not have a variety of complex problems that homosexuality was a part of. He found people who were totally normal in every other regard except in terms of their sexual preference. In fact, he saw many of them as having higher intellects, higher aesthetic sensibilities, higher morals; those kinds of things. He did not see it as something to criminalize or penalize, or to keep from psychoanalytic training. A lot of the psychoanalytic institutes felt if you were homosexual you should not be accepted; that was not Freud's position.[30] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bisexuality#cite_note-29)

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BellaBellucci
11-18-2010, 11:27 PM
Sigmund Freud - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigmund_Freud), editor of Freud at 150: 21st Century Essays on a Man of Genius, stated in an interview:
“ Freud maintained that bisexuality was a normal part of development.... Freud felt there were a number of homosexuals he encountered who did not have a variety of complex problems that homosexuality was a part of. He found people who were totally normal in every other regard except in terms of their sexual preference. In fact, he saw many of them as having higher intellects, higher aesthetic sensibilities, higher morals; those kinds of things. He did not see it as something to criminalize or penalize, or to keep from psychoanalytic training. A lot of the psychoanalytic institutes felt if you were homosexual you should not be accepted; that was not Freud's position.[30] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bisexuality#cite_note-29)

Bisexuality - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bisexuality)

Oh, very cool. I never knew that. Thanks. :)

~BB~

Ben
11-18-2010, 11:29 PM
So, Sigmund Freud theorized that every person has the ability to become bisexual....

YouTube - Dan Savage on the Existence of Bisexuality (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2sIf_sVYuc)

YouTube - Dan Savage on Obama's LGBT record (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9Y6w6By1Zo&feature=related)

Mari_Mar
11-19-2010, 12:55 AM
For the record, most of what Frued believed has been debunked by modern psychology...

natina
11-19-2010, 01:08 AM
some men want a masculine shemale/TS/TGIRL:whistle::hide-1::yayo::iagree::confused:






not all gay men want a masculine man,many want a feminine man.

Instrumental
11-19-2010, 01:08 AM
I really don't care about labels but I think it'd be most accurate to say I'm bisexual. Even though masculine faces and figures aren't attractive to me I don't have a preference in regards to what's in the pants. In the end, people can call it what they want. I'm not gonna change what I like because of that.

natina
11-19-2010, 01:12 AM
some guys want a big penis on a feminine shemale

some guys want a small penis on a feminine shemale

some guys want a big penis on a masculine shemale

some guys want a limp penis on a feminine shemale

some guys just want ass


some guys just want oral


some guys just want ass


some guys just want oral & ass

some guys just want shemale penis in there ass


some guys just want shemale penis in there mouth

some guys just want shemale penis in there mouth & ass

some guys do not want to stick there dick in a shemale's mouth are ass

anonymoussonny
11-19-2010, 08:11 AM
SMH... if we keep labeling ourselves we'll have to stop complaining about outsiders & others who do.

Labels are for grocery stores and clothes. Keep your fucking labels off me!

phobun
11-19-2010, 04:02 PM
For the record, most of what Frued believed has been debunked by modern psychology...

Very true.

sdman
11-19-2010, 11:55 PM
me i am just a faggot with Tits :) hehe


I'd bang you!!!

sydburn9
11-20-2010, 01:53 AM
Well i'll consider myself like a straigth guy, But in the same time i like being with a very feminine shemale. I don't know how to explain that, it's my pleasure, my thing... But i don't see me sleep with a man, that's something impossible for me.