Cant pass

[mons147]

this is my first post ever and this has to be said. i've been reading around the site at tons of different posts and i was wondering where some these guys get off criticizing certain woman who they claim "cant pass" and throwing remarks around of why they would even bother transitioning, i wish i had even half the strength and courage these woman do. i have the utmost respect for anyone who has the will and tenacity to be on the outside who the feel they are on the inside. i'm young and dumb but even i know not to judge some one till you walked a mile in there shoes.

[AmyDaly]

this is my first post ever and this has to be said. i've been reading around the site at tons of different posts and i was wondering where some these guys get off criticizing certain woman who they claim "cant pass" and throwing remarks around of why they would even bother transitioning, i wish i had even half the strength and courage these woman do. i have the utmost respect for anyone who has the will and tenacity to be on the outside who the feel they are on the inside. i'm young and dumb but even i know not to judge some one till you walked a mile in there shoes.

Well thank you for that. Even those of us who have no trouble "passing" for our correct gender now, had problems of some kind in the past while transitioning at some point. We all go through an awkward phase at some point in our transitions and it does take a lot of courage to put yourself out there and be yourself and risk ridicule or even violence.


This somewhat goes for the guys(or girls for that matter) who aren't too much of a wimp to sport their transgender girlfriend at their side.

[mons147]

right on babe i'm just sick of this fake idealistic bullshit that seems to be an epidemic lately, i just wanna see some realism in people and ideas

[alyssats]

i agree with you for me just do what you feel in life be happy as long as your not hurting anyone. by the way to be able to pass the best thing to do is take proper amount of hormones it would really help a lot. even the hardest looking TS girl could look soft if they take proper or better huge amount of hormones jeje

by the way is that you in the pic?

[johnb]

well said, mons

[Teydyn]

criticizing certain woman who they claim "cant pass" and throwing remarks around of why they would even bother transitioning
Because they have no clue whatsoever and only think of them as sex-objects, not as persons?

[bte]

this is my first post ever and this has to be said. i've been reading around the site at tons of different posts and i was wondering where some these guys get off criticizing certain woman who they claim "cant pass" and throwing remarks around of why they would even bother transitioning, i wish i had even half the strength and courage these woman do. i have the utmost respect for anyone who has the will and tenacity to be on the outside who the feel they are on the inside. i'm young and dumb but even i know not to judge some one till you walked a mile in there shoes.

I agree, but some guys on this board have never came in contact with transwoman, so its hard for them to not think of them as sex objects. For the guys who know transgendered women and men personally, then we can appreciate and admire the courage that they have. Hell it takes guts to transition even when everyone is saying "That's a man!"

[Dirky]

That's a nice first post there. Are you sure you're at the right website?

Seriously though, I agree with everything you said. I have zero tolerance for guys (especially ones who have never been with a TS in real life) complaining about a certain girl's 'passibilty'.

[Carissa00031]

Great topic & I met girls who pass & who do not, but being happy to live life under your terms is priceless. I wish all the girls out there well with their transitions as this is my 15th month of my journey now. I started at the age of 43 & have never looked back.
Take care, God bless, & have a good afternoon.
Thanks, Carissa

[Silcc69]

What is up with these posters that have been here for a long time yet they only have a few posts?

[Dirky]

What is up with these posters that have been here for a long time yet they only have a few posts?

They like to choose their words wisely perhaps?

:lol:

[mons147]

first off yes Alyssa that is me lol and my eyes may look weird but its jst that ones green and borwn and secondly i've never posted before cause i never had a reason to no point in posting for the sake of posting

[alyssats]

first off yes Alyssa that is me lol and my eyes may look weird but its jst that ones green and borwn and secondly i've never posted before cause i never had a reason to no point in posting for the sake of posting

youre such a cutie delicious yum yum

and by the way are you thinking of transitioning?

[mons147]

lol thanks you and uhh thats a little more complex

[Jericho]

lol thanks you and uhh thats a little more complex

Ahhh, then it would appear, so is the op! :shrug

[mons147]

whats the op?

[joey1980]

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[fred41]

first off yes Alyssa that is me lol and my eyes may look weird but its jst that ones green and borwn and secondly i've never posted before cause i never had a reason to no point in posting for the sake of posting

youre such a cutie delicious yum yum

and by the way are you thinking of transitioning?

lol thanks you and uhh thats a little more complex

Interesting answer. Gotta hand it to Alyssa...very smart girl.

[mons147]

haha let me be a little more straight forward i'm a complete coward even though i know in my soul i'm a woman i see the way i look i know i could never look even half as good as Alyssa or any of the other women perhaps that makes me a hypocrit and i'm just not brave enough to take on society and my family so i've resighned myself to just suck it and live with it

[Silcc69]

mons147 all you have to do is slip on a skirt and put on a wig and most of the guys would fall in love. But you probably are looking for something a little more real so nvm that.

[Jericho]

whats the op?

Opening post, or Original poster.

In this case, opening post.
So, what's the ulterior motive?

[mons147]

lol to be happy and content

[alyssats]

just for me do what you feel and think that is good for you. be happy in life ;)

boy or girl youre beautiful Mons147

by the way a big percentage of TS admirer/chasers are actually guys who want to be a TS girl also. Also a big percentage are CDs. Most of my clients even they dont tell me i could easily feel if they want to be a TS girl also or they are closet CDs. Even in this site i know so many guys who want to be a TS girl and are closet CDs they just dont open up ;)

[indeed]

Every guy who wants to know knows who the ts in the room is. The guys that look at TS's as real females and are in denial about it dont.

Its always been weird to me that a guy wants his ts to be ultra passable. Why not just go after a real female.

If they say they like TS cock they cant say they arent gay. For me, I date real girls, and mess around with TS's on the side. There is a difference. a big one

[Nicole Dupre]

There is a difference. a big one A big one in your asshole?

[SarahG]

by the way a big percentage of TS admirer/chasers are actually guys who want to be a TS girl also. Also a big percentage are CDs.

Yea, definitely. It seems there are a LOT of chasers out there who use trans porn as therapy of sorts in trying to deal with being trans themselves. Which is interesting considering how prolific it is for trans people to think "chasers are nasty predatory perverts."

I am actually starting to wonder if a lot of the chaser-bashing is just masked transphobia kind of like the radical feminists out there who will talk about empowering women to wear what they want to wear, but then get all pissed off as soon as they see women with shaved legs, or wearing skirts, or a corset (I've seen feminists debate whether a feminist can still be a feminist and wear a corset because they're "objectifying").

[SarahG]

i've been reading around the site at tons of different posts and i was wondering where some these guys get off criticizing certain woman who they claim "cant pass" and throwing remarks around of why they would even bother transitioning...

Criticizing can be fair, it depends on how it is done. There are guys out there who find breast implants a sexual turn off, it would be criticizing if a guy turned a girl down (gg or trans) for having breast implants by saying 'sorry, I don't date girls with implants.' But that's fair, if that's what he finds to be a turn off, that's just the way it goes. Expecting him to like girls with implants wouldn't be right, just as expecting all guys to like girls who can't pass wouldn't be right. Though hopefully most guys would know not to word it like "sorry I don't date girls with implants" when being hit on by a girl who has them. TACT is a good thing.

The problem is when someone goes the next step to using stuff like that to judge people's value as people. There is a difference between someone saying "I can't stand porn with girls who can't pass because its a turn off for me" and saying "people who can't pass are worthless and shouldn't have transitioned."

[bte]

by the way a big percentage of TS admirer/chasers are actually guys who want to be a TS girl also. Also a big percentage are CDs.

I know some of my friends that are into transsexual porn consider themselves to be a woman trapped in male's body. They do not transition due to scrunity [sic?] from family and friends.

Although one friend that I finally convince that she should do what is right is checking into FFS and hormones, so its a step in the right direction.