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Ben
11-23-2009, 10:11 PM
Corporations: The Real Reason Obama is not Making Much Progress
Before you can appeal to America's voters you have to appeal to the corporations

by Johann Hari

Almost a year after Barack Obama ascended to the White House, many of his supporters are bemused. His healthcare bill is a hefty improvement but it still won't provide coverage for all Americans, and may not provide a public alternative to the over-charging insurance companies - if it passes at all. His environmental team is vandalising the vital Copenhagen conference by saying the US - the single biggest emitter of warming gases - will not sign up to any legally binding restrictions there. He has placed the deregulation-fanatics who caused the New Depression, like Lawrence Summers, in charge of the recovery. Despite the real improvements on Bush - such as the end of torture, the resumption of stem-cell research, and opposition to the coup in Honduras - many people are asking: why he is delivering so little, so slowly?

A pair of seemingly small stories about the forces warping American politics can help us to answer this question. At first glance, they will seem like preposterous caricatures, but the facts are plain. The institutions that are blocking progress on all these issues - Republicans in the Senate, and the mighty corporate lobbying machine that bankrolls both parties - have rallied over the past few months to defend two causes with very little popular support in the United States: rape and slavery. No, really. If we begin to explain how this came to pass, then we might see why the American political system is malfunctioning so badly, even after a landslide victory for change.

Let's start with rape. This story begins in Iraq in 2003. The private military contractors sent by the Bush administration to guard the oil pipelines didn't want to get bogged down in expensive legal cases if anything went wrong. When it came to Iraqis, the Bush team simply exempted them from all Iraqi law, in a move so sweeping one Senator called it "a license to kill". But what about if their employees attacked each other, or other Americans? The private companies insisted all their employees sign contracts saying that, whatever happens to them, they will settle it in in-house, through "arbitration". Why? While representing the company at a real legal trial costs hundreds of thousands of dollars, an arbitration panel costs a few thousand. It saves cash.

This policy came, however, with a different price tag. According to her later sworn testimony, Jamie Leigh Jones - a 20-year-old working for the contractor Halliburton/KBR - was hanging out with co-workers one night in Iraq when her drink was spiked. When she woke up, she was haemorraging blood from her vagina and her anus. Her breast implants were ripped. The damage was so severe she later needed reconstructive surgery on her genitalia. She surmised she had been gang-raped by the seven men she had been drinking with. When she approached Halliburton/KBR, she says they locked her in a metal container with no food or water for 24 hours. A doctor came to see her wounds and took DNA evidence, although it was later "lost." A guard took pity on her and loaned her his cell phone. She called her father, who called the American embassy - and only then was she released.

In an Iraq that was collapsing all around her, there was no chance of the Iraqi police investigating. Halliburton/KBR insisted that her contract required the alleged gang-rape to be addressed by the company's private arbitration process, forbidding any claim in the American courts. (If this was how they treated blonde English-speaking American girls, what did they do if Iraqis said they had been abused?) After Leigh Jones went public, many other American women came forward to say they had similar experiences working in Iraq. Her legal team argues the refusal to allow rape to be pursued through the courts created a climate where it was more likely to happen.

The Democratic Senator Al Franken, when he heard about this, was horrified, and tabled a simple amendment to the law. It demanded that no company that prevents rape victims from having their day in court should receive taxpayers' money any more. Rape is rape. A majority of Republicans in the Senate - including John McCain - voted against the amendment. Why? The private contractors are major donors to the Republican Party, but the Senators claim this didn't affect their judgement. No - they said that Franken's proposal was a "vendetta" against Halliburton/KBR with "political motives". Franken pointed out any company trying to stop rape victims getting justice would be treated exactly the same by this law. The Republicans ignored him. They voted to maintain a system where some rape is not pursuable in a court of law.

At the same time, a group of Democratic senators have tried to amend the latest customs bill to ensure that nothing produced by slaves should be sold in the United States. It sounds uncontroversial - as uncontroversial as punishing rapists, in fact. Yet corporate lobbyists are militating behind the scenes to oppose it. As the private subscription-only newsletter "Inside US Trade" reported: "Business groups are worried by the potential effects", and a source tells them there will be, "a push from lobbyists closer to the Finance Committee mark-up of the bill... US industry groups and foreign governments [ie those that use slave labour] could form ad hoc coalitions to help send a united message." They will fight for their right to use slave labour.

These examples are extreme, but they reveal a powerful undertow that is at work on all political issues (and both main parties) in the United States. To see how, you have to understand two processes. The first is the nature of corporate power. Corporations are structured to do one thing, and one thing only: to maximise profit for their shareholders. No matter how personally nice or nasty their CEOs are, if they put anything ahead of profit, they will be sacked, and replaced by somebody who doesn't. As part of a tightly regulated market, this can be a useful engine for growth. But if it is not strictly reigned in by the law and by trade unions, this pressure for profit will extend anywhere - from trashing the environment to rape and slavery, as these cases remind us. The second factor is the nature of the American political process today. If you want to run for elected office in the US, you have to raise a fortune from corporations or the super-rich to pay for TV advertising. So before you can appeal to the voters, you have to appeal to the corporations. You do this by assuring them you will serve their interests. Once you are in office, you have to keep pleasing them at every step, or they won't pay for your re-election campaign. This two-step overwhelms the positive instincts the individual politicians may have to do good - and drags the US government further and further from the will of the people.

Obama had to climb through this system, and he is currently imprisoned by it. It explains his relative failure so far. Healthcare is proving so hard because the insurance companies are paying both Republicans and right-wing Democrats in Senate to thwart any attempt to provide universal healthcare coverage. Yes, it would save the 17,000 Americans who die every year because they lack insurance but it would depress their profits. Reducing carbon emissions is proving so hard because the oil, coal and gas companies are paying Senators across the spectrum to crush any moves to reduce oil, coal and gas use. And on, and on.

So far, Obama has tried to co-opt the corporations into his agenda by ensuring they will profit from any changes, but this inevitably waters down the proposals, often to the point of uselessness. The Cap and Trade legislation before Congress, for example, will barely limit carbon emissions at all because it has been gutted to please the polluters.

He will only achieve significant progressive change if he reforms the political system itself - to make it accountable to the American people, not the corporations. He needs to change the rules of the game. Ban big business from making political donations, and replace it with state funding. Shut down the lobbying industry. Make a big populist speech announcing you are driving the money-lenders out of the temple of democracy: it'd be surprisingly popular in a country where people can see they're being ripped off every day. The alternative is to become rapidly complicit in a system where defending rape and slavery is seen as just another day's work in Washington DC.

Đ 2009 Independent/UK

Johann Hari is a columnist for the London Independent. He has reported from Iraq, Israel/Palestine, the Congo, the Central African Republic, Venezuela, Peru and the US, and his journalism has appeared in publications all over the world.

tslover185
11-24-2009, 03:18 PM
Yea right always other guys fault!!!!

phobun
11-24-2009, 03:26 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6QjOI7bj5ks

Richctdude
11-24-2009, 03:39 PM
corporations run america the people don't

paulgutierrez
11-24-2009, 03:56 PM
corporations run america the people don't
Jews run america. The media, hollywood, our porn, the corporations, the banks, the government. Hell even Ben Bernanke is jewish.

Not saying it as a bad thing of course. Jews make awesome doctors, and lawyers. And I totally support Israel. But when they make up less than 1% of the population while being totaly overrepresented in everything, I think its safe to say that they do run everything in America and pinning it just on the corporations would be understating things a bit.

chefmike
11-24-2009, 04:44 PM
corporations run america the people don't
Jews run america. The media, hollywood, our porn, the corporations, the banks, the government. Hell even Ben Bernanke is jewish.

Not saying it as a bad thing of course. Jews make awesome doctors, and lawyers. And I totally support Israel. But when they make up less than 1% of the population while being totaly overrepresented in everything, I think its safe to say that they do run everything in America and pinning it just on the corporations would be understating things a bit.

I think it's safe to say that you're a clueless jackass...as for the OP, apparently he'd be happier with a twit like Nader in office....

phobun
11-24-2009, 04:54 PM
corporations run america the people don't
Jews run america. The media, hollywood, our porn, the corporations, the banks, the government. Hell even Ben Bernanke is jewish.

Not saying it as a bad thing of course. Jews make awesome doctors, and lawyers. And I totally support Israel. But when they make up less than 1% of the population while being totaly overrepresented in everything, I think its safe to say that they do run everything in America and pinning it just on the corporations would be understating things a bit.

You're almost there, but you need to realize that it is reptilian humanoids masquerading as Jews who run America. Why them? Because the rest of us are controlled by radio waves, but the Jews wear yarmulkes lined with tinfoil !! SO WEAR YOUR TINFOIL HAT !

sucka4chix
11-24-2009, 05:05 PM
Our government is a big fat stinking terd! What happened to of/by/for the people. Lincoln must be rolling over in his grave. That shit has perished. It is the ultimate insult to the people that we have policy makers being paid by groups to make policy. Why is this even legal? As a society, we should be outraged that lobbyists even exist! Then you've got fucking legislators who are praised for knowing how to play "the game"---you know, the "I'll vote for your bullshit if you vote for mine"! It's fucking insane! It's not a game! It's living breathing people's lives!! Nobody--- I repeat nobody in Washington gives a fuck about the people. Politics has NOTHING to do with serving the people. Until the "people" realize that, we are doomed to this fucked up bullshit, until this country, like every other great civilization, dies!

paulgutierrez
11-24-2009, 06:44 PM
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chefmike
11-24-2009, 07:04 PM
corporations run america the people don't
Jews run america. The media, hollywood, our porn, the corporations, the banks, the government. Hell even Ben Bernanke is jewish.

Not saying it as a bad thing of course. Jews make awesome doctors, and lawyers. And I totally support Israel. But when they make up less than 1% of the population while being totaly overrepresented in everything, I think its safe to say that they do run everything in America and pinning it just on the corporations would be understating things a bit.

I think it's safe to say that you're a clueless jackass...as for the OP, apparently he'd be happier with a twit like Nader in office....

Who's clueless? I think you need to be more aware of the country you live in.

Companies denote Presidents and/or owners:

Jew - Goldman Sachs - Marcus Goldman
Jew - Chairman of the Federal Reserve - Ben Shalom Bernanke
Jew - CBS - William S. Paley, Leslie Moonves
Jew - Rahm Emanuel - White House Chief of Staff
Jew - NBC - Jeffrey Zucker
Jew - ABC - Stuart Bloomberg and George W. Bodenheimer
Jew - ABC News - David Westin
Jew - CNN - Larry King, Wolf Blitzer, Gerald Levin, Reese Schonfeld (co-founder)
Jew - FOX - Gail Berman, Rupert Murdoch
Jew - MBS - Ronnessen
Jew - Daily News - Maxwell, real name Hoch
Jew - US News - Zuckerman
Jew - Warner Co - Martin S. Davis
Jew - Dreamworks - Spielberg
Jew - Walt Disney Television, Touchstone Television, Buena Vista Television - Micheal D. Eisner
Jew - VIACOM - Sumner Murray Redstone, real name Rothstein
Jew - MTV - Murray Rothstein
Jew - Nickelodeon - Murray Rothstein
Jew - Universal Pictures - Stacey Snider
Jew - Universal Studios - Ron Meyer
Jew - New York Times - Sulzberger
Jew - BBC - Michael Ian Grade, Mark Thompson
Jew - Sirius Satellite Radio - Mel Karmazin, Scott Greenstein
Jew - ITV - Murdoch, Grade
Jew - Paramount Pictures - Bradley Alan Grey
Jew - 20th Century Fox - Sherry Lansing
Jew - News Corporation - Peter Chernin
Jew - Columbia Pictures - Kaufman
Jew - The Daily Show - Jon Stewart, real name Leibowitz
Jew - Warner Brothers - Barry M. Meyer
Jew - Clear Channel - Lowry Mays, Andrew Levin
Jew - The White House Theatre - Larry Silverstein
Jew - The World Bank - Paul Wolfowitz

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marlon_Brando#Comments_on_Jews_and_Hollywood
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Jewish_American_film_directors
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Jewish_actors
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Jewish_American_politicians


You won't learn that in school Ill tell you that much. Then again who do you think the education system is run by? Hopefully you beat the brainwashing and wake up eventually. Until then stick to your holocaust "history" films.

And a holocaust denialist...another shocker....

phobun
11-24-2009, 07:04 PM
corporations run america the people don't
Jews run america. The media, hollywood, our porn, the corporations, the banks, the government. Hell even Ben Bernanke is jewish.

Not saying it as a bad thing of course. Jews make awesome doctors, and lawyers. And I totally support Israel. But when they make up less than 1% of the population while being totaly overrepresented in everything, I think its safe to say that they do run everything in America and pinning it just on the corporations would be understating things a bit.

I think it's safe to say that you're a clueless jackass...as for the OP, apparently he'd be happier with a twit like Nader in office....

Who's clueless? I think you need to be more aware of the country you live in.

Companies denote Presidents and/or owners:

Jew - Goldman Sachs - Marcus Goldman
Jew - Chairman of the Federal Reserve - Ben Shalom Bernanke
Jew - CBS - William S. Paley, Leslie Moonves
Jew - Rahm Emanuel - White House Chief of Staff
Jew - NBC - Jeffrey Zucker
Jew - ABC - Stuart Bloomberg and George W. Bodenheimer
Jew - ABC News - David Westin
Jew - CNN - Larry King, Wolf Blitzer, Gerald Levin, Reese Schonfeld (co-founder)
Jew - FOX - Gail Berman, Rupert Murdoch
Jew - MBS - Ronnessen
Jew - Daily News - Maxwell, real name Hoch
Jew - US News - Zuckerman
Jew - Warner Co - Martin S. Davis
Jew - Dreamworks - Spielberg
Jew - Walt Disney Television, Touchstone Television, Buena Vista Television - Micheal D. Eisner
Jew - VIACOM - Sumner Murray Redstone, real name Rothstein
Jew - MTV - Murray Rothstein
Jew - Nickelodeon - Murray Rothstein
Jew - Universal Pictures - Stacey Snider
Jew - Universal Studios - Ron Meyer
Jew - New York Times - Sulzberger
Jew - BBC - Michael Ian Grade, Mark Thompson
Jew - Sirius Satellite Radio - Mel Karmazin, Scott Greenstein
Jew - ITV - Murdoch, Grade
Jew - Paramount Pictures - Bradley Alan Grey
Jew - 20th Century Fox - Sherry Lansing
Jew - News Corporation - Peter Chernin
Jew - Columbia Pictures - Kaufman
Jew - The Daily Show - Jon Stewart, real name Leibowitz
Jew - Warner Brothers - Barry M. Meyer
Jew - Clear Channel - Lowry Mays, Andrew Levin
Jew - The White House Theatre - Larry Silverstein
Jew - The World Bank - Paul Wolfowitz

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marlon_Brando#Comments_on_Jews_and_Hollywood
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Jewish_American_film_directors
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Jewish_actors
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Jewish_American_politicians


You won't learn that in school Ill tell you that much. Then again who do you think the education system is run by? Hopefully you beat the brainwashing and wake up eventually. Until then stick to your holocaust "history" films.
What a jerk.

paulgutierrez
11-24-2009, 07:19 PM
............

Silcc69
11-24-2009, 07:28 PM
chefmike has returned!

addicted
11-25-2009, 02:11 AM
Obama is just a token figure to get up on the panel make nice speeches with soothing voice and young in shape looking guy. At night they take the batteries out of obama and hang him up in the closet. Then in the morning they insert the batteries in his anus and he starts all over again to do his work for the evil imperial scum known as corporate america.

phobun
11-25-2009, 05:18 AM
Obama is just a token figure to get up on the panel make nice speeches with soothing voice and young in shape looking guy. At night they take the batteries out of obama and hang him up in the closet. Then in the morning they insert the batteries in his anus and he starts all over again to do his work for the evil imperial scum known as corporate america.
I really think you need to get your HIV dementia checked out man!
Quacks like Gary Nobody are not going to help you!

tslover185
11-25-2009, 03:22 PM
This guy is amazing, how does he sleep at night? Doesnt he worry the jew monster will suck the little brain cells he has out his ass!!!!

arnie666
11-25-2009, 03:41 PM
Could it just be that Obama is Blair with a skin tan? All nice talk and nothing to back it up? You see this is why Obama ,the gangsters he surrounds himself with and the washington establishment with all their 'interests' are so afraid of Palin.She for all her crapness in giving interviews to barren jealous libtards isn't afraid to put corrupt bastards of her own party in orange jumpsuits and tell big corporations to fuck off .

You see if the libtards (some of whom secretly admire her by the way ) were still pro her (they loved her when the pitbull went off her leash and she was going after her own party and the oil companies in Alaska by the way) this would be in lights on CNN and the rest. But she is a conservative woman who is pro life which is a henious crime in a similar form to a Black republican who has shunned his/her dems- plantation negro roots.

arnie666
11-25-2009, 03:49 PM
Dearie Me

Nowhere
11-25-2009, 05:47 PM
Actually, the reason he's not making progress is because he's just appealing to his backers (construction, unions, etc):

By sheer numbers, the "economy" has recovered... with no jobs, since they're pushing the working people to their limits, and see that "oh we don't need to hire anyone back." All Obama needed to do was tie in DIRECT TAX BREAKS FOR HIRING MORE PEOPLE (making it highly inexpensive to increase staff) and it would be a slam dunk. More people working would mean increased buying power and would build upwards, doing the trick.

But, because there is currently NO INCENTIVE for companies to hire more people, they simply won't.

No stimulus money in the world will provide an incentive for companies to hire more people. They'll just fix their issues and increase profits with the same (SQUEEZED) staff.

I don't understand how they don't get such a simple concept.

Coroner
11-25-2009, 06:28 PM
chefmike has returned!

Fuck yeah!!

The American political system reminds me of the Roman Empire. I donīt know if Obama believes in his own speeches but he canīt change things alone. He made it to the White House the same way as his predecessors and is committed to those who made him. Obama might have scrupels but to realize the change he promised means to fight the whole system and one man alone cannot do this. The neoliberal economy stands for modern slavery, profit over human dignity, war over peace, presence over future. Every human being can see and feel the consequences, yet I donīt understand why people donīt oppose and take back whatīs anchored in their constitution: popular sovereignty!
Most people tend to believe that democracy just consists of free speech. Yeah, you can shout out loud but you canīt change shit. The only opportunity you get is once in 4 years, just for a few minutes when you vote.

Rogers
11-25-2009, 06:51 PM
Every human being can see and feel the consequences, yet I donīt understand why people donīt oppose and take back whatīs anchored in their constitution: popular sovereignty!

Bread and circuses, Coroner. Just as in the days of old Rome.

"This is the thing to bomb. This is the beginning—from "I" to "we". If you who own the things people must have could understand this, you might preserve yourself. If you could separate causes from results, if you could know that Paine, Marx, Jefferson, Lenin were results, not causes, you might survive. But that you cannot know. For the quality of owning freezes you forever into "I", and cuts you off forever from the "we"."
- John Steinbeck.

Things have to get really bad before revolution appeals to the majority. Until then, a full stomach and "full mind" dulls the senses.

Silcc69
11-25-2009, 09:03 PM
Actually, the reason he's not making progress is because he's just appealing to his backers (construction, unions, etc):

By sheer numbers, the "economy" has recovered... with no jobs, since they're pushing the working people to their limits, and see that "oh we don't need to hire anyone back." All Obama needed to do was tie in DIRECT TAX BREAKS FOR HIRING MORE PEOPLE (making it highly inexpensive to increase staff) and it would be a slam dunk. More people working would mean increased buying power and would build upwards, doing the trick.

But, because there is currently NO INCENTIVE for companies to hire more people, they simply won't.

No stimulus money in the world will provide an incentive for companies to hire more people. They'll just fix their issues and increase profits with the same (SQUEEZED) staff.

I don't understand how they don't get such a simple concept.


+1

hippifried
11-25-2009, 09:06 PM
So, ummm... What makes anybody think there's no progress? Did y'all expect a magic wand to turn the whole country & world around in a week? All changes happen incrimentally. The President walked into a pretty big mess. He can't make law or allocate funding you know.

On the economic front, everybody was told over & over going in that this would all take time, & that it would most likely get worse before it started getting better. The economic stimulous bill is 9 months old & has a 2 year timeline for distribution. As far as I can see, it's close to being on schedule. TARP was inherited, & has virtually stopped while Treasury is still holding about a quarter of the allocation in reserve. AIG's being wound down, GM's out of bankrupsy, the market's up... Where's the lack of progress?

The House has already passed a healthcare reform bill, with a public option. The Senate's debating theirs now, & will most likely pass it next month. Reconciliation will likely take till sometime in January, so he won't be able to sign it before Christmas like he wanted to. OH NO! Such a disaster! I guess the sky must be falling & all progress has come to a screeching halt because Congress took an extra month.

The detention facility at Guantanamo Bay Naval Base is thinning out, as promised. It may take a few extra months past the one year mark to get it totally shut down, but what the hell. KSM is on his way to New York to face a really pissed off jury. We get to make a media circus out of it & show the world that we can give somebody a fair trial before we kill them. We should televise our humane method of putting down 2 legged rabid dogs too. That should be a hit on Youtube.

Iraq's winding down. Again, a couple of months added to the timeline, but the revised schedule seems to be holding. I'll have to withhold judgement on Afghanistan until the final revised plan is revealed. Now before anyone starts kissing Cheney's ass & yammering about "dithering", Don't forget that it took over 4 months for President Bush to make his decision on the surge in Iraq. I'll be the first to start shrieking if we get into any more stupid wars, but for now, I think the military might of America is in good hands. That's progress in itself, but it really didn't take much to get better than what we had.

So what's next? Gonna revive the birth certificate snivel? Let's remember that all television is an entertainment medium. Pundits & blowhards are on there to fill time. Columnists write their blather whether there's anything to write about or not. The lowest rated channels on cable are the 5 that supposedly focus on "news" 24/7. They're just barely hanging above public access. They can't even keep up with the Golf Channel, & it's not in all the markets.

Teabags -- the new Kool-Aid.


Oh my! Jooooos? Damn, & here I thought I was supposed to be worrying about commies, mooselimbs, & the occasional lone wolf domestic terrorist that only coincidentally happens to be a Klan/Nazi. Is there a vaccine?

chefmike
11-25-2009, 10:29 PM
Actually, the reason he's not making progress is because he's just appealing to his backers (construction, unions, etc):

By sheer numbers, the "economy" has recovered... with no jobs, since they're pushing the working people to their limits, and see that "oh we don't need to hire anyone back." All Obama needed to do was tie in DIRECT TAX BREAKS FOR HIRING MORE PEOPLE (making it highly inexpensive to increase staff) and it would be a slam dunk. More people working would mean increased buying power and would build upwards, doing the trick.

But, because there is currently NO INCENTIVE for companies to hire more people, they simply won't.

No stimulus money in the world will provide an incentive for companies to hire more people. They'll just fix their issues and increase profits with the same (SQUEEZED) staff.

I don't understand how they don't get such a simple concept.


+1

-1....trickle-down economics...BS by any other name....

Silcc69
11-25-2009, 11:12 PM
So, ummm... What makes anybody think there's no progress? Did y'all expect a magic wand to turn the whole country & world around in a week? All changes happen incrimentally. The President walked into a pretty big mess. He can't make law or allocate funding you know.

On the economic front, everybody was told over & over going in that this would all take time, & that it would most likely get worse before it started getting better. The economic stimulous bill is 9 months old & has a 2 year timeline for distribution. As far as I can see, it's close to being on schedule. TARP was inherited, & has virtually stopped while Treasury is still holding about a quarter of the allocation in reserve. AIG's being wound down, GM's out of bankrupsy, the market's up... Where's the lack of progress?

The House has already passed a healthcare reform bill, with a public option. The Senate's debating theirs now, & will most likely pass it next month. Reconciliation will likely take till sometime in January, so he won't be able to sign it before Christmas like he wanted to. OH NO! Such a disaster! I guess the sky must be falling & all progress has come to a screeching halt because Congress took an extra month.

The detention facility at Guantanamo Bay Naval Base is thinning out, as promised. It may take a few extra months past the one year mark to get it totally shut down, but what the hell. KSM is on his way to New York to face a really pissed off jury. We get to make a media circus out of it & show the world that we can give somebody a fair trial before we kill them. We should televise our humane method of putting down 2 legged rabid dogs too. That should be a hit on Youtube.

Iraq's winding down. Again, a couple of months added to the timeline, but the revised schedule seems to be holding. I'll have to withhold judgement on Afghanistan until the final revised plan is revealed. Now before anyone starts kissing Cheney's ass & yammering about "dithering", Don't forget that it took over 4 months for President Bush to make his decision on the surge in Iraq. I'll be the first to start shrieking if we get into any more stupid wars, but for now, I think the military might of America is in good hands. That's progress in itself, but it really didn't take much to get better than what we had.

So what's next? Gonna revive the birth certificate snivel? Let's remember that all television is an entertainment medium. Pundits & blowhards are on there to fill time. Columnists write their blather whether there's anything to write about or not. The lowest rated channels on cable are the 5 that supposedly focus on "news" 24/7. They're just barely hanging above public access. They can't even keep up with the Golf Channel, & it's not in all the markets.

Teabags -- the new Kool-Aid.


Oh my! Jooooos? Damn, & here I thought I was supposed to be worrying about commies, mooselimbs, & the occasional lone wolf domestic terrorist that only coincidentally happens to be a Klan/Nazi. Is there a vaccine?


Well.....

http://www.sphere.com/2009/11/09/opinion-stimulus-plan-stimulates-trouble-for-obama

chefmike
11-27-2009, 05:28 PM
Could it just be that Obama is Blair with a skin tan? All nice talk and nothing to back it up? You see this is why Obama ,the gangsters he surrounds himself with and the washington establishment with all their 'interests' are so afraid of Palin.She for all her crapness in giving interviews to barren jealous libtards isn't afraid to put corrupt bastards of her own party in orange jumpsuits and tell big corporations to fuck off .

You see if the libtards (some of whom secretly admire her by the way ) were still pro her (they loved her when the pitbull went off her leash and she was going after her own party and the oil companies in Alaska by the way) this would be in lights on CNN and the rest. But she is a conservative woman who is pro life which is a henious crime in a similar form to a Black republican who has shunned his/her dems- plantation negro roots.

C'mon arnie, the only thing that's scary is the appalling ignorance(and ugliness) of her fans. And actually, it's more amusing than it is scary...

To wit, my limey friend:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/23/palin-supporters-struggle_n_367800.html

Cuchulain
11-27-2009, 09:13 PM
"This is the thing to bomb. This is the beginning—from "I" to "we". If you who own the things people must have could understand this, you might preserve yourself. If you could separate causes from results, if you could know that Paine, Marx, Jefferson, Lenin were results, not causes, you might survive. But that you cannot know. For the quality of owning freezes you forever into "I", and cuts you off forever from the "we"."
- John Steinbeck.


God Bless John Steinbeck. Damn shame nobody reads his stuff anymore.