Escort post-op "depreciation"

[evilernie]

I understand that escorts will get a value "hit" when they go post op, but how much?

[ronniej]

I see no value in post op. Just my opinion but us sickos that like chicks with dicks have no interest in post ops.

[farang]

I have seen that post op escorts still charge the same as they did pre op but I think that they have fewer punters.

[phobun]

I understand that escorts will get a value "hit" when they go post op, but how much?For cum-guzzling cocklubbers, escorts with pussies are worthless.

[archie8132]

Personally, I'd pay more.

[Jericho]

It's not for me, but, i would imagine their work rate goes up.
Appealing to a larger client base and all that. :shrug

[Dirky]

It's not for me, but, i would imagine their work rate goes up.
Appealing to a larger client base and all that. :shrug

If you like women, why wouldn't you like post-ops too?

I'm always puzzled by this line of thinking.

[fordly66]

If I was to get an escort, I'd pay more if she was post-op :)

[ronniej]

It's not for me, but, i would imagine their work rate goes up.
Appealing to a larger client base and all that. :shrug

If you like women, why wouldn't you like post-ops too?

I'm always puzzled by this line of thinking.

Cuz if you like women...you stick with women. If you like girls with dicks.....nuf said. But a post op? I just don't get it. No attraction here....just plain yucky to me. :?

[Silcc69]

You can probably get a GG for free though.

[evilernie]

You can probably get a GG for free though.
Why do you say that? I'm sure TGs want really loving too.

[altarica]

I was wondering about this.
We don't seem to see so much of Danielle Foxxx these days. When she had a cock she was all over the place and hot as anything. Horny sexy and wild as you like.
Now this it has to be said is only my personal opinion, but she holds very little allure for me now in a sexual way.
But then again it is her life and if she is happy now then good luck to her. After all it is her life and body to do as she pleases with.
Just not my cup of tea anymore.

[Dirky]

It's not for me, but, i would imagine their work rate goes up.
Appealing to a larger client base and all that. :shrug

If you like women, why wouldn't you like post-ops too?

I'm always puzzled by this line of thinking.

Cuz if you like women...you stick with women. If you like girls with dicks.....nuf said. But a post op? I just don't get it. No attraction here....just plain yucky to me. :?

So a vagina on a GG is okay but one on a post-op is 'yucky'?

[Jericho]

It's not for me, but, i would imagine their work rate goes up.
Appealing to a larger client base and all that. :shrug

If you like women, why wouldn't you like post-ops too?
I'm always puzzled by this line of thinking.

That has nothing to do with the question OR my answer.

But, since you brought it up, personally, i just wouldn't rent a minge. Never have. Well, except for once, (but that was by accident).

[fred41]

It's not for me, but, i would imagine their work rate goes up.
Appealing to a larger client base and all that. :shrug

If you like women, why wouldn't you like post-ops too?
I'm always puzzled by this line of thinking.

That has nothing to do with the question OR my answer.

But, since you brought it up, personally, i just wouldn't rent a minge. Never have. Well, except for once, (but that was by accident).

I guess some people will go with a pre-op TS escort because that's the only way that they'll be able to have sex with one (the amount of available good looking TS per man percentage wise...and all that)..whereas GGs can be found more easily through the traditional ways (dating)....I guess that's what Jericho is saying...makes sense.

[alyssats]

most of my post op friends had appreciated their rates usually 2 times than usual

[Ecstatic]

Interesting, Alyssa. Here's a related question: do they advertise on Eros as post op TS or as females?

[jcinva]

It's not for me, but, i would imagine their work rate goes up.
Appealing to a larger client base and all that. :shrug

If you like women, why wouldn't you like post-ops too?

I'm always puzzled by this line of thinking.

If you wanted to eat chicken, why buy a dog, shave off the fur, glue on some feathers, staple a beak and wings onto it and cook it?

Why not just buy a chicken in the first place?

Now, if you're really hankering fer some dog, (not that there's anything wrong with that) but don't want to admit it to yourself, well, then that's a different story.

[Teydyn]

Once more thanks to this weak analogy:

Liking TS doesnt make you gay.
Liking men does.

[Odelay]

I think a better poll question would be this...

Why does evilernie want to know this?

1. He's a cheap son of a gun and looking out for a lower priced ts.
2. He's about to transition and wondering if he should keep his dick.
3. Worried about his ts gf who wants srs. Can the household survive on less.
4. Worried about all ts getting srs, and then where would he get cock. Better to convince them all they make more coin by keeping their dicks.

Seriously, I can't think of any other reasons to ask the question, other than maybe he's just a busybody and likes to poke his nose in others' business.

[sucka4chix]

It's not for me, but, i would imagine their work rate goes up.
Appealing to a larger client base and all that. :shrug

If you like women, why wouldn't you like post-ops too?

I'm always puzzled by this line of thinking.

If you wanted to eat chicken, why buy a dog, shave off the fur, glue on some feathers, staple a beak and wings onto it and cook it?

Why not just buy a chicken in the first place?

Now, if you're really hankering fer some dog, (not that there's anything wrong with that) but don't want to admit it to yourself, well, then that's a different story.

Excellent!

[sucka4chix]

A girl who goes postal, er, I mean post-op and still loiters around the TS community is doomed to failure. She will have taken a minority fan pool and whittled it down to a select few. Now of course she can make alot more fans (and coin) in the straight market, provided she's not advertising that she used to have a dick!

[fred41]

A girl who goes postal, er, I mean post-op and still loiters around the TS community is doomed to failure. She will have taken a minority fan pool and whittled it down to a select few. Now of course she can make alot more fans (and coin) in the straight market, provided she's not advertising that she used to have a dick!

She would also have to be good looking and passable..not everyone has both traits combined...but if they do..well yeah, i don't see why they wouldn't enter the GG escort market . Right now I don't know how well the GG escort market is doing. Does anyone here know..other than extreme anecdotal evidence? (my question mostly pertains to the U.S.).

[Ecstatic]

It's not for me, but, i would imagine their work rate goes up.
Appealing to a larger client base and all that. :shrug

If you like women, why wouldn't you like post-ops too?

I'm always puzzled by this line of thinking.

If you wanted to eat chicken, why buy a dog, shave off the fur, glue on some feathers, staple a beak and wings onto it and cook it?

Why not just buy a chicken in the first place?

Now, if you're really hankering fer some dog, (not that there's anything wrong with that) but don't want to admit it to yourself, well, then that's a different story.

It seems obvious that you don't accept TS as women, but only as a fetish. That's a crying shame. If you accepted TS as women, you would find no distinction between a post-op TS and a GG, save for her personal history (which may be fascinating, but which does not in any sense invalidate her femininity).

I have done photoshoots with post-op women and have one good friend who is post-op with whom I've been intimiate more times than I can count. I cannot envision her as anything but a beautiful woman; she had her GRS 17 years ago and her pussy is indistinguishable from any GG's I've experienced.

[farang]

It's not for me, but, i would imagine their work rate goes up.
Appealing to a larger client base and all that. :shrug

If you like women, why wouldn't you like post-ops too?

I'm always puzzled by this line of thinking.

If you wanted to eat chicken, why buy a dog, shave off the fur, glue on some feathers, staple a beak and wings onto it and cook it?

Why not just buy a chicken in the first place?

Now, if you're really hankering fer some dog, (not that there's anything wrong with that) but don't want to admit it to yourself, well, then that's a different story.

It seems obvious that you don't accept TS as women, but only as a fetish. That's a crying shame. If you accepted TS as women, you would find no distinction between a post-op TS and a GG, save for her personal history (which may be fascinating, but which does not in any sense invalidate her femininity).

I have done photoshoots with post-op women and have one good friend who is post-op with whom I've been intimiate more times than I can count. I cannot envision her as anything but a beautiful woman; she had her GRS 17 years ago and her pussy is indistinguishable from any GG's I've experienced.

Your reply is not relevant to the original post.

[caliuncut]

I'd have to agree....i have zero interest in post-op Ts'....and honestly as hot as even someone like Danielle is I find it hard to even watch her old stuff let alone the new.

Thats just how I feel...my sexual attraction, but theres no judgement on someone choosing to go post-op, its there life and they should go the route that make them happy.

[farang]

The question was do you think that after srs that a Transgendered woman who sells herself for sex makes as much as before.
No is my opinion as people who are into Transsexuals are, like it or not, attracted to a girl with a cock. Once the cock is gone then they are THE SAME as any other girl.
Therefore they can advertise as post op or compete with all the other girls out there selling themselves.
I don't understand why people deny the fact that an attraction to a pre op involves cock !!

[sucka4chix]

I don't understand why people deny the fact that an attraction to a pre op involves cock !!

Because they are illogical idiots! They come to HUNG ANGELS to demean people who like their angels to be hung.

[buckjohnson]

You can probably get a GG for free though.

I agree. Why pay for GG sex

[Ecstatic]

It's not for me, but, i would imagine their work rate goes up.
Appealing to a larger client base and all that. :shrug

If you like women, why wouldn't you like post-ops too?

I'm always puzzled by this line of thinking.

If you wanted to eat chicken, why buy a dog, shave off the fur, glue on some feathers, staple a beak and wings onto it and cook it?

Why not just buy a chicken in the first place?

Now, if you're really hankering fer some dog, (not that there's anything wrong with that) but don't want to admit it to yourself, well, then that's a different story.

It seems obvious that you don't accept TS as women, but only as a fetish. That's a crying shame. If you accepted TS as women, you would find no distinction between a post-op TS and a GG, save for her personal history (which may be fascinating, but which does not in any sense invalidate her femininity).

I have done photoshoots with post-op women and have one good friend who is post-op with whom I've been intimiate more times than I can count. I cannot envision her as anything but a beautiful woman; she had her GRS 17 years ago and her pussy is indistinguishable from any GG's I've experienced.

Your reply is not relevant to the original post.

No, it's relevant to the post to which I replied. Duh! Now, you can claim that jcinva, dirky, and jericho were not replying to the original post, but not every post in a thread must be in direct response to the initial post in that thread.

[BrendaQG]

I have it from credible sources that a post op can make money escorting as a woman if, she passes well enough (to at least fool people who are not TS savvy).

[Jericho]

No, it's relevant to the post to which I replied.

Dammit, how DARE you derail a thread on HA! :lol: :lol: :lol:

[flabbybody]

I see no value in post op. Just my opinion but us sickos that like chicks with dicks have no interest in post ops.

OK, I admit it
I feel the same way

doesn't mean I wouldn't stay friends with a post-op but the physical attraction would probably be gone

[jcinva]

Right now I don't know how well the GG escort market is doing. Does anyone here know..other than extreme anecdotal evidence? (my question mostly pertains to the U.S.).

Hmm... if you check out the Eros Indices, you'll see that current GFE (GG) contracts have been trading in the $250 - 325 range for the past 90 days, while the 90 day futures have been trading as high as $350. A good sign for the sex worker market for 2010.

There's been some heavy profit taking in calls this past week, so that tends to depress the rate for spot contracts.

I think a lot of the heavy traders are sitting on the sidelines right now to see what the quarterly CDC reports for chlamydia and gonorrhea are going to look like in two weeks.

The TS escort market indices aren't listed just yet, but I think most of the recently reported trades are still in the $200 - 250 range. That doesn't include workers with premium video exposure, since they're not bundled into the commodity market.

[evilernie]

Hmm.. I haven't even thought of post-ops escorting as GGs. I guess there's tricks after post then.

[shemale-411]

A hot chic is a hot chic, no matter what her status. You could just as well reverse the original post and put it on a straight board saying "would you be with a hot escort if you found out she ahs a penis?" What I'm trying to say is horny guys are horny guys, and gorgeous girls, there will always be a market for one as long as there are plenty of horny dudes around. And for the record, the number of smoking hot you would never guess post-ops working as escorts in Vegas might surprise some of you guys, and they do quite well.

[rockabilly]

And after market parts add to the value , keep it lubed , clean and watch how much mileage you put on it and you can maintain value when you sell it.

Wait a minute ... this threads not about cars !

[MRSJHANIAHLOVE]

ive been advertising as a female for 3 YEARS! and im PRE-OP its called tucking your penis so they dont see it. i advertise GREEK, FRENCH, AND RUSSIAN. greek=ass fuck french=suck russian= titty fuck. NOT ALL QUEENS CAN DO IT. you must be good!!! always pat them down upon arrival and keep a really big can of mace under your pillow. having a friend or body guard in the house is a PLUS! its all about the benjamins baby :lol:

[JamesHunt]

I wouldn't pay to fuck post-op pussy. Plenty of real pussy out there for free

[Nicole Dupre]

There are indeed post ops escorting as post ops. There are two on Eros in south Florida. One is a bit older, and one is younger, and they both do fairly well.

[alyssats]

Interesting, Alyssa. Here's a related question: do they advertise on Eros as post op TS or as females?

yes many advertises in the internet as females not as post op TS girl. Mostly their clients 99.99% never found out they are boy before and taught they are real genetic girls and now earning millions travelling to Australia,Japan, Dubai, Europe and even some visits US jeje

lthey are mostly 100 passable and unclockable

[BrendaQG]

[quote=Ecstatic]and now earning millions travelling to Australia,Japan, Dubai, Europe and even some visits US

Millions! :shock: Of U.S. Dollars?

[alyssats]

[quote=Ecstatic]and now earning millions travelling to Australia,Japan, Dubai, Europe and even some visits US

Millions! :shock: Of U.S. Dollars?

mostly mix of Euros,Dirhams and some US dollars

and another info i also have another post op TS friend and advertises in the internet as post op TS girl but she also earns a lot, shes getting so much appointment with high pay also compared to pre op TS.

[jcinva]

It seems obvious that you don't accept TS as women, but only as a fetish. That's a crying shame. If you accepted TS as women, you would find no distinction between a post-op TS and a GG, save for her personal history (which may be fascinating, but which does not in any sense invalidate her femininity).

I have done photoshoots with post-op women and have one good friend who is post-op with whom I've been intimiate more times than I can count. I cannot envision her as anything but a beautiful woman; she had her GRS 17 years ago and her pussy is indistinguishable from any GG's I've experienced.

I'm sure you're a sincere guy, but you'll have to admit, yourself, that your credibility or at least impartiality in any discussion along these lines is undermined by your profession. You're the photographer and web producer to the TGs. Can't be expected to come out with any other opinion than what you've expressed, lest your clientele and projects dry up, along with next month's mortgage. In addition, you could expect things to get a little cool with your post-op friend if you voiced any other opinion.

So, thanks - your position on this topic was presumed by your three website plug.

[flabbybody]

It seems obvious that you don't accept TS as women, but only as a fetish. That's a crying shame. If you accepted TS as women, you would find no distinction between a post-op TS and a GG, save for her personal history (which may be fascinating, but which does not in any sense invalidate her femininity).

I have done photoshoots with post-op women and have one good friend who is post-op with whom I've been intimiate more times than I can count. I cannot envision her as anything but a beautiful woman; she had her GRS 17 years ago and her pussy is indistinguishable from any GG's I've experienced.

I'm sure you're a sincere guy, but you'll have to admit, yourself, that your credibility or at least impartiality in any discussion along these lines is undermined by your profession. You're the photographer and web producer to the TGs. Can't be expected to come out with any other opinion than what you've expressed, lest your clientele and projects dry up, along with next month's mortgage. In addition, you could expect things to get a little cool with your post-op friend if you voiced any other opinion.

So, thanks - your position on this topic was presumed by your three website plug.

maybe I'm naive, but I don't see ecstatic's business activity skewing his opinion one way or another on this topic.

[Dirky]

maybe I'm naive, but I don't see ecstatic's business activity skewing his opinion one way or another on this topic.

Of course not. Many guys, myself included, who aren't in the adult business share his viewpoints and think of TS's as women and not as fetish objects.

[peggygee]

Hmm.. I haven't even thought of post-ops escorting as GGs. I guess there's tricks after post then.

If the women passes well: voice, appearance, demeanor, and her vagina
passes in terms of aesthetics and functionality, there should be absolutely
no reason for the woman to remain in the tranny ghetto.

Thus if she chooses to remain an escort she would market herself as a
genetic female, and in the same manner, because for all intents and
purposes the situation is equal.

[Ecstatic]

Interesting, Alyssa. Here's a related question: do they advertise on Eros as post op TS or as females?

yes many advertises in the internet as females not as post op TS girl. Mostly their clients 99.99% never found out they are boy before and taught they are real genetic girls and now earning millions travelling to Australia,Japan, Dubai, Europe and even some visits US jeje

lthey are mostly 100 passable and unclockable

That's what I thought. I only know of a few post op TS who advertise or have advertised themselves as such on Eros (such as Milla), or who work actively in the porn field as such (most notably Danielle Foxx). But then it's impossible to assess, without insider knowledge, how many work as females (which, as Peggy says above, is only how it should be).




It seems obvious that you don't accept TS as women, but only as a fetish. That's a crying shame. If you accepted TS as women, you would find no distinction between a post-op TS and a GG, save for her personal history (which may be fascinating, but which does not in any sense invalidate her femininity).

I have done photoshoots with post-op women and have one good friend who is post-op with whom I've been intimiate more times than I can count. I cannot envision her as anything but a beautiful woman; she had her GRS 17 years ago and her pussy is indistinguishable from any GG's I've experienced.

I'm sure you're a sincere guy, but you'll have to admit, yourself, that your credibility or at least impartiality in any discussion along these lines is undermined by your profession. You're the photographer and web producer to the TGs. Can't be expected to come out with any other opinion than what you've expressed, lest your clientele and projects dry up, along with next month's mortgage. In addition, you could expect things to get a little cool with your post-op friend if you voiced any other opinion.

So, thanks - your position on this topic was presumed by your three website plug.

maybe I'm naive, but I don't see ecstatic's business activity skewing his opinion one way or another on this topic.

Thanks, Flabbybody. Much appreciated. My business involvement is relatively small in this arena (85% of my business is non-adult), and, more to the point, my opinions are part of the historical record here and elsewhere back to 2004 and earlier, long before I first ventured into any adult web design, hosting or photography.



maybe I'm naive, but I don't see ecstatic's business activity skewing his opinion one way or another on this topic.

Of course not. Many guys, myself included, who aren't in the adult business share his viewpoints and think of TS's as women and not as fetish objects.

Thanks, Dirky. That's exactly on point. Cheers!

[liisawinklergirl]

almost 100% of the post-ops here in the Philippines advertise as GGs or pose as GGs when they're out working the bars/streets etc. anywhere!

Because the post-op lover's population is not as high as the GG-loving men naturally the girls try to mix in with the GG populace in the sex industry...

With this line of thinking, I personally think that if you're thinking about going post-op but you're not sure about your passability as a woman, then don't do it...it's a waste of time...

it depends on your target clientele though..if you target post-op lovers as customers then what else can I say but go for it...

[Nicole Dupre]

Hmm.. I haven't even thought of post-ops escorting as GGs. I guess there's tricks after post then.

If the women passes well: voice, appearance, demeanor, and her vagina
passes in terms of aesthetics and functionality, there should be absolutely
no reason for the woman to remain in the tranny ghetto.

Thus if she chooses to remain an escort she would market herself as a
genetic female, and in the same manner, because for all intents and
purposes the situation is equal.

Where is the "tranny ghetto", btw?

Or is that just sexchange talk for the TS porn industry: the place where you'll never accomplish anything but make an ass out of yourself?

Btw, you should stop trying to be so wordy, for "all intents and purposes", when you're so very inarticulate. "Thus" you won't always sound like an idiot.

[Nicole Dupre]

I'm sure you're a sincere guy, but you'll have to admit, yourself, that your credibility or at least impartiality in any discussion along these lines is undermined by your profession. You're the photographer and web producer to the TGs. Can't be expected to come out with any other opinion than what you've expressed, lest your clientele and projects dry up, along with next month's mortgage. In addition, you could expect things to get a little cool with your post-op friend if you voiced any other opinion.

So, thanks - your position on this topic was presumed by your three website plug.

Right. You're the only independent thinker here, sarge. Thanks for patronizing us all...

... you fucking moron.

[runamok]

Post Ops are fucking useless. I would have stayed married if I wanted a dry, dark soul-sucking hole to torture my cock with.

[farang]

Post Ops are fucking useless. I would have stayed married if I wanted a dry, dark soul-sucking hole to torture my cock with.

Posting a view like this shows that you are the fucking useless one.

[alyssats]

Post Ops are fucking useless. I would have stayed married if I wanted a dry, dark soul-sucking hole to torture my cock with.

Posting a view like this shows that you are the fucking useless one.

OMG yes his post is very disturbing I couldnt believe some guys actually are like that scary :shock:

[peggygee]

Hmm.. I haven't even thought of post-ops escorting as GGs. I guess there's tricks after post then.

If the women passes well: voice, appearance, demeanor, and her vagina
passes in terms of aesthetics and functionality, there should be absolutely
no reason for the woman to remain in the tranny ghetto.

Thus if she chooses to remain an escort she would market herself as a
genetic female, and in the same manner, because for all intents and
purposes the situation is equal.

Where is the "tranny ghetto", btw?



Well if you don't know, all I can say is:

If you ain't never been to the ghetto
Don't ever come to the ghetto
'Cause you wouldn't understand the ghetto
So stay the fuck out of the ghetto

:wink:

[Nicole Dupre]

Well if you don't know, all I can say is:

If you ain't never been to the ghetto
Don't ever come to the ghetto
'Cause you wouldn't understand the ghetto
So stay the fuck out of the ghetto

:wink:

If it's not a pic you're using to speak for you, it's an MTV song lyric. :roll:

Bitch, I HAVE "been in" the ghetto PLENTY. So don't front with your BS street credibility, and play your dumb race card on me. I grew up right outside of Newark NJ, sissy. I trained in a Brooklyn dojo for quite some time, and was the only white person in a class full of black Muslims. ;) I've lived on Ave D on the LES, Hell's Kitchen before it was gentrified, Starrett City Brooklyn right in Ardsley Loop, and I am about as 'boogie down' as a cracker do gets. So act like ya know. :roll:

[runamok]

Post Ops are fucking useless. I would have stayed married if I wanted a dry, dark soul-sucking hole to torture my cock with.

Posting a view like this shows that you are the fucking useless one.

LOLOLOLOLOL! :P

[The Second Coming- JB]

if you got rid of your cock and your still escorting why would you escort as a post op, why not GG. Idk, that's just crazy.

[APD2]

if you got rid of your cock and your still escorting why would you escort as a post op, why not GG. Idk, that's just crazy.
If the client thought the escort was GG and found out she was a post op,he might get upset at being 'fooled'.

[farang]

If a bloke who had only been interested in girls found a post op girl attractive I don't think he would have a clue that she had been born a geezer.
Not everyone visits Tranny websites !!

[The Second Coming- JB]

If a bloke who had only been interested in girls found a post op girl attractive I don't think he would have a clue that she had been born a geezer.
Not everyone visits Tranny websites !!



If the client thought the escort was GG and found out she was a post op,he might get upset at being 'fooled'.

right, right...yea what would a guy who is buying pussy doing looking up trannies and if he was looking up tgirls then taht means he like them, so no harm no foul. But anyways for that to work i suggest you girls save up your money do whatever you have to do and go see the Surgeon Danielle Foxx saw. I mean that motherfucker is gifted. Of all the post op pussy i've seen shes got the best. i mean i'm not sure but i think i would eat her pussy...but idk forsure. But if I was ever gonna eat a post op pussy hers would be it.

Ps. And for the record Kanye West is a fucking genius and fuck Madanna its lady Gaga time now.

[phobun]

But anyways for that to work i suggest you girls save up your money do whatever you have to do and go see the Surgeon Danielle Foxx saw. I mean that motherfucker is gifted. Of all the post op pussy i've seen shes got the best. i mean i'm not sure but i think i would eat her pussy...but idk forsure. But if I was ever gonna eat a post op pussy hers would be it.
Just go to Thailand and find a nice looking Asian post-op pussy and eat it like you ate that Asian girl on her period, only you don't have to worry about a menstrual flavor and you can do it all month long.

[The Second Coming- JB]

But anyways for that to work i suggest you girls save up your money do whatever you have to do and go see the Surgeon Danielle Foxx saw. I mean that motherfucker is gifted. Of all the post op pussy i've seen shes got the best. i mean i'm not sure but i think i would eat her pussy...but idk forsure. But if I was ever gonna eat a post op pussy hers would be it.
Just go to Thailand and find a nice looking Asian post-op pussy and eat it like you ate that Asian girl on her period, only you don't have to worry about a menstrual flavor and you can do it all month long.

Wait...what?? I've never eaten any period pussy... i ate the pussy moments before the period came. Nah i dont think i can eat a post op pussy. Well idk prolly if i was in love maybe id do it...

[phobun]

Wait...what?? I've never eaten any period pussy... i ate the pussy moments before the period came.
Until I read that wild story, I would have guessed that you would have been able to say "I've never eaten any pussy, period."