STOP IT!!!

[Clind]

i dont want to say anything else, olny "WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS TO YOUR BEAUTIFULL FACE,WHY?!?!?!?"

[phobun]

i dont want to say anything else, olny "WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS TO YOUR BEAUTIFULL FACE,WHY?!?!?!?"

Maybe young models want to look like Amanda Lepore, Octomom, the Joker, Wildenstein and every over-the-hill transsexual just as they are starting out?

Surely, the frenemies of transsexuals encourage them to go too far with plastic surgery.

My guess is that most transsexuals stop only after the money runs out. I wonder how often they end up too disfigured to pursue anything other than reconstruction outside of the public eye.

For too many girls, this is the future:

[lupinIII]

The term you two are looking for is 'trout pout'.

To be fair, I still think she looks cute, the lips are a bit odd, but nobody's perfect. I'd hazard to say that any of us sad fuckers on here who proclaim "oh yeah she's totally hideous, wouldn't hit that with a 10 foot pole" are a bunch of rotten scum-fucking liars.

[flabbybody]

If a girl looked like Kate Hudson she wouldn't be happy
It's a tranny thing

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Body_dysmorphic_disorder

[raybbaby]

that's an old pic. It was taken really soon after the silicone was done. They look a bit smaller now.

[cadcad]

I agree, Kimber you should stop wearing such high platform shoes.

[Nikka]

I have the fantasy of having huge lips :)

[Sinister]

DSL....nuff said :)

[blonde_sweetheart]

The hate directed at TS girls who DARE feminize their body's is disgusting and disturbing.

[Distance]

The hate directed at TS girls who DARE feminize their body's is disgusting and disturbing.

Do you call that 'feminizing'? It's not, and that is what is disturbing. A woman is all about subtility. Not an advertisment for ripe watermelon-like lips. Those using surgery to this extent look like Carnival scary thingies. Nothing feminine here for me.

[lupinIII]

I don't know if its hate, so much as narcissism or self-indulgence, we get attracted to you girls as you're transitioning, however, when you reach a certain point, say, getting lips, tits, hips... (dammit can't rhyme anymore body parts) done there seems a to be a weird little backlash like. "Oh she totally sold out and betrayed our fantasies. Fuck her."

Basically, in the end, fuck that, it's her body, we wouldn't be placing her on such a fucking pedestal if she didn't have the work done, so at this juncture criticising her about the work she's had done that we disapprove of is bit like criticising the sun for being a bit bright during the day and slightly blinding if you look directly at it. If you don't like lookin' at her fuckin' don't.

Hmm, that analogy got away from me, I'm just watching the sun rise though so it was worth it for the inspiration for the shitty gibberish.

[Distance]

I don't know if its hate, so much as narcissism or self-indulgence, we get attracted to you girls as you're transitioning, however, when you reach a certain point, say, getting lips, tits, hips... (dammit can't rhyme anymore body parts) done there seems a to be a weird little backlash like. "Oh she totally sold out and betrayed our fantasies. Fuck her."

Basically, in the end, fuck that, it's her body, we wouldn't be placing her on such a fucking pedestal if she didn't have the work done, so at this juncture criticising her about the work she's had done that we disapprove of is bit like criticising the sun for being a bit bright during the day and slightly blinding if you look directly at it. If you don't like lookin' at her fuckin' don't.

Hmm, that analogy got away from me, I'm just watching the sun rise though so it was worth it for the inspiration for the shitty gibberish.

Not only a body thing for me. Otherwise you could well make love to a man with a full man's face...and a woman's body. That is, if you like it as such (I don't). Or make good use of a pillow. :lol:

[Coroner]

I have the fantasy of having huge lips :)

Get yourself beat up and you´ll get huge lips. :lol:

[lupinIII]

I should have probably clarified for the thickies, that a human's face is generally a part of their body. I take it as a given, I mean, getting a knife in the face is defined as bodily harm just as much as getting stabbed in the chest, but then, it appears someone hasn't. Gee, is my face red.

[Legend]

If she is happy with herself i don't see why anyone would, its her body so she should be able to do whatever the hell she wants to it.

[Distance]

I should have probably clarified for the thickies, that a human's face is generally a part of their body. I take it as a given, I mean, getting a knife in the face is defined as bodily harm just as much as getting stabbed in the chest, but then, it appears someone hasn't. Gee, is my face red.

'Gee'...but you did separate face from body. There are thickies. And sickies. :lol:

[lupinIII]

Besides, who are you to define what classifies a woman as feminised? The Oxford dictionary? Tastes and standards are highly variable and subjective based on every little thing surrounding a person.

Hell in a few decades from now every woman you know may have the trout pout, just remember that it was girls like Kimber who fucking called it, they were the trend-setters.

[Distance]

Besides, who are you to define what classifies a woman as feminised? The Oxford dictionary? Tastes and standards are highly variable and subjective based on every little thing surrounding a person.

Hell in a few decades from now every woman you know may have the trout pout, just remember that it was girls like Kimber who fucking called it, they were the trend-setters.

It was my idea of a woman, you know no more than I do. Women do not normally look like panzer tanks, or 'trends'. They are not products, just and purely women. So go take your sickos, sick-he. And enjoy. :roll:

[lupinIII]

Your idea of a woman? Awesome, then allow me to direct you to one of my previous statements, "If you don't like lookin' at her fuckin' don't look"

So what, she's just a woman, purely a woman, does that preclude her from being able to manipulate and modify her body in the way that she sees fit? Even if it turns her into what did you say, a Panzer tank? (By the way, you'll have to explain to me how getting fuller lips leads one to becoming a a few dozen odd tons of Nazi German deathbringer)

I realise that my definition is just as different from yours as yours is from hers, and hers is from mine, etc. And while I would say that judging from what you've written previously, I suspect that I may know a great deal more than you, I can't confirm it. The difference is my concept of femininity doesn't judge her based on her individual aesthetic tastes.

Who said women were products? I said trend-setters. Not that they look like trends, I mean that they adopt certain styles, dress similarly, etc. I feel like this is a moot argument as you're going to continue mis-reading me but hey, beats doing a boring-ass essay.

[Distance]

Your idea of a woman? Awesome, then allow me to direct you to one of my previous statements, "If you don't like lookin' at her fuckin' don't look"

So what, she's just a woman, purely a woman, does that preclude her from being able to manipulate and modify her body in the way that she sees fit? Even if it turns her into what did you say, a Panzer tank? (By the way, you'll have to explain to me how getting fuller lips leads one to becoming a a few dozen odd tons of Nazi German deathbringer)

I realise that my definition is just as different from yours as yours is from hers, and hers is from mine, etc. And while I would say that judging from what you've written previously, I suspect that I may know a great deal more than you, I can't confirm it. The difference is my concept of femininity doesn't judge her based on her individual aesthetic tastes.

Who said women were products? I said trend-setters. Not that they look like trends, I mean that they adopt certain styles, dress similarly, etc. I feel like this is a moot argument as you're going to continue mis-reading me but hey, beats doing a boring-ass essay.

Throw away your passive-agressive effeminate agression, and learn how to spell maybe? Take the body as you see her: like a fantasy gadget, obviously. She shows herself as she expects us to 'buy it'. Therefore I air my views, as you air yours. You do have a problem with defining who/what a woman is, I see -and who should comment or not. Help is...at hand. :roll:

[lupinIII]

Throw away your passive-agressive effiminate agression, and learn how to spell maybe? Take the body as you see her: like a fantasy gadget, obviously. She shows herself as she expects us to 'buy it'. Therefore I air my views, as you air yours. You do have a problem with defining who/what a woman is, I see -and who should comment or not. Help is...at hand. :roll:

"Agressive", then "effiminate", followed directly by "learn how to spell"...

Fucking incredible, I think my work's done. And I didn't even have to rebut anything.

Edit: Whoops, you missed a spot son, actually, 2 spots, specifically 'agressive' and 'agression', both are spelt with double G's. Get your edit on. Good job on getting effeminate right on the second try though.

[Nicole Dupre]

Your idea of a woman? Awesome, then allow me to direct you to one of my previous statements, "If you don't like lookin' at her fuckin' don't look"

So what, she's just a woman, purely a woman, does that preclude her from being able to manipulate and modify her body in the way that she sees fit? Even if it turns her into what did you say, a Panzer tank? (By the way, you'll have to explain to me how getting fuller lips leads one to becoming a a few dozen odd tons of Nazi German deathbringer)

I realise that my definition is just as different from yours as yours is from hers, and hers is from mine, etc. And while I would say that judging from what you've written previously, I suspect that I may know a great deal more than you, I can't confirm it. The difference is my concept of femininity doesn't judge her based on her individual aesthetic tastes.

Who said women were products? I said trend-setters. Not that they look like trends, I mean that they adopt certain styles, dress similarly, etc. I feel like this is a moot argument as you're going to continue mis-reading me but hey, beats doing a boring-ass essay.

Throw away your passive-agressive effeminate agression, and learn how to spell maybe? Take the body as you see her: like a fantasy gadget, obviously. She shows herself as she expects us to 'buy it'. Therefore I air my views, as you air yours. You do have a problem with defining who/what a woman is, I see -and who should comment or not. Help is...at hand. :roll:

I just read this thread. Wow. Seriously, what's bothering you? Did someone ask you if you were gay at work today or something? You've made a complete fool of yourself more than once on this forum. Is this going to be a pattern? lol

[cadcad]

Did someone ask you if you were gay at work today or something? You've made a complete fool of yourself more than once on this forum. Is this going to be a pattern? lol

He is 100% straight how dare you suggest otherwise!!!!

[farang]

The hate directed at TS girls who DARE feminize their body's is disgusting and disturbing.

Nobody hates TS girls feminizing their bodies we just don't like people who go from beautiful to ridiculous.
You are just a mixed up kid,it was only a few weeks ago you were involved in a video ridiculing and insulting Black people.

[farang]

Alan.

[PSL4u]

The hate directed at TS girls who DARE feminize their body's is disgusting and disturbing.

Please don't ever do this type of stuff to yourself Ashley. You look great the way you are,

[tsHillary]

It's best to live and let live, I find.

[MrsKellyPierce]

Are Kimber's lips going to be a weekly thread now? She's had them done for quite sometime...and still not one of you would kick her out of your bed as long as she let you suck her cock....so why go on about it. I see you guys complimenting crossdressers in wigs at least she is a transsexual and still attractive.... :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: GET OVER IT!

[blonde_sweetheart]

Are Kimber's lips going to be a weekly thread now? She's had them done for quite sometime...and still not one of you would kick her out of your bed as long as she let you suck her cock....so why go on about it. I see you guys complimenting crossdressers in wigs at least she is a transsexual and still attractive.... :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: GET OVER IT!


AMEN KELLY. The thought that some of the men here are attracted to MEN IN DRAG and we are essentially put on the same level of them disgusts me. Blahhhh it's so ridiculous. I'm so ready for all the bullshit once I start to feminize my body. And whoever made that comment about black people please get over yourself.Fabricating phantom racism is just so annoying.

[TSMissJasmine]

Kimber is probably one of the hottest transsexual girls around today, with or without her body/face modifications. I would even venture to say that girls like Kimber make choices based on what "she" wants. I would bet she does it for herself and probably not for a bunch of guys who fantasize all day about sucking dick and taking cock in their asses.

So while all of you boys are sitting around with your family and friends hiding the fact that you suck dick in the closet, get over yourselves, life does not revolve around you (even though your mothers probably told you you are special all your life). If you don't like the direction a porn performer such as Kimber is taking, then move on to a different girl more suited to your interests.

[lupinIII]

I just read this thread. Wow. Seriously, what's bothering you? Did someone ask you if you were gay at work today or something? You've made a complete fool of yourself more than once on this forum. Is this going to be a pattern? lol

Me or the other guy?

[phobun]

The hate directed at TS girls who DARE feminize their body's is disgusting and disturbing.

Where is the hate? I'm all for girls feminizing all the way and cockhounds who talk smack about SRS are annoying. I think the issue is one of degree of plastic surgery... whether a girl feminizes to look real, or to look plastic. Most guys, even guys who just like GGs, don't like it when girls look plastic.

I don't think I'm going out on a limb when I say that Amanda Lepore, Octomom and Wildenstein look plasticized.

[speedstick112]

I always wondered how hard it is to stand in those heels in that pose for so long, it might really strain that tendon. I was really happy when these pics came out, it was around the time I uhh discovered Kimber. Honestly didn't even notice she was getting anything done to her hot body.

[phobun]

So while all of you boys are sitting around with your family and friends hiding the fact that you suck dick in the closet
Not everyone here is a cocksucker, some of us only like coochie (http://www.hungangels.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=8338).

[rockabilly]

Why just suck in the closet? Is it a walk-in closet? lol

[Nicole Dupre]

So while all of you boys are sitting around with your family and friends hiding the fact that you suck dick in the closet
Not everyone here is a cocksucker, some of us only like coochie (http://www.hungangels.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=8338).... but many of you are confused, and in deep denial. That, we know.

So perhaps it's more accurate to say that some of you just haven't sucked cock yet, or are too introverted to try it. And you, more than anyone else here, come across like a textbook case of a latent homosexual. The denial, the projecting, the lack of consistency, the moralizing. You're always hard at work trying to prove what you're not. Why is that? I don't even think you like women. You act like a woman-hating gay man. Seriously, if you were all about vagina, you picked the wrong place to hang out. Don't you think?

But it's ok, sweetheart. You just keep having that same argument with yourself, and I'll be your devil's advocate. It's nice having you here. ;)

[dafame]

The hate directed at TS girls who DARE feminize their body's is disgusting and disturbing.

Couldn't have been said any better. Question though?: WTF is feminine about that? If I can recall the joker was a dude right?? Nah..lol I'm just fuckin around. Couldn't resist that one...lol

[phobun]

So while all of you boys are sitting around with your family and friends hiding the fact that you suck dick in the closet
Not everyone here is a cocksucker, some of us only like coochie (http://www.hungangels.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=8338).... but many of you are confused, and in deep denial. That, we know.

So perhaps it's more accurate to say that some of you just haven't sucked cock yet, or are too introverted to try it. And you, more than anyone else here, come across like a textbook case of a latent homosexual. The denial, the projecting, the lack of consistency, the moralizing. You're always hard at work trying to prove what you're not. Why is that? I don't even think you like women. You act like a woman-hating gay man. Seriously, if you were all about vagina, you picked the wrong place to hang out. Don't you think?

But it's ok, sweetheart. You just keep having that same argument with yourself, and I'll be your devil's advocate. It's nice having you here. ;)
Don't you think that if you're aiming for drama, the sort of fight with Hara that probably got you a hundred or so hits on your trite blog, that obsessing about me is sort of a low-yield strategy?

[Willie Escalade]

I agree, Kimber you should stop wearing such high platform shoes.
Oh, HELL NO! She'd better keep those on! :twisted:

[Helvis2012]

The hate directed at TS girls who DARE feminize their body's is disgusting and disturbing.

Are you referring to the original post?

Sounds like the guy digs Kimber. He just doesn't want her to deface her face.

Check it out.

[transmaven]

I like all the *hate* that's coming out between transsexuals and the male posters here.

Throws the reality of the situation into sharpest relief.

Learn, boys, from the spewings of the vipers. :twisted:

[Nicole Dupre]

So while all of you boys are sitting around with your family and friends hiding the fact that you suck dick in the closet
Not everyone here is a cocksucker, some of us only like coochie (http://www.hungangels.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=8338).... but many of you are confused, and in deep denial. That, we know.

So perhaps it's more accurate to say that some of you just haven't sucked cock yet, or are too introverted to try it. And you, more than anyone else here, come across like a textbook case of a latent homosexual. The denial, the projecting, the lack of consistency, the moralizing. You're always hard at work trying to prove what you're not. Why is that? I don't even think you like women. You act like a woman-hating gay man. Seriously, if you were all about vagina, you picked the wrong place to hang out. Don't you think?

But it's ok, sweetheart. You just keep having that same argument with yourself, and I'll be your devil's advocate. It's nice having you here. ;)
Don't you think that if you're aiming for drama, the sort of fight with Hara that probably got you a hundred or so hits on your trite blog, that obsessing about me is sort of a low-yield strategy?

Awww. I've got you making bad attempts at changing the subject again, from yourself to some sort of accusatory nonsense about me. Thank you for being so predictable, and proving my point so well. :)

Until next time, sweetheart. Now get your vagina-loving self back to not seeing all of the cocks on the cock forum for cock lovers. :wink:

[AllanahStarrNYC]

These kind of threads remind me of what Diana Vreeland was once asked what she thought of the way most people dressed.

To which she responded-

"Most people, are not something one thinks about"

[2009AD]

These kind of threads remind me of what Diana Vreeland was once asked what she thought of the way most people dressed.

To which she responded-

"Most people, are not something one thinks about"

My, she sounds like a real snob. I'll take a wild guess, she's in the fashion industry, probably in NY or London.

Anyways, we seem to forget that media are always discussing the looks, weight and surgeries of entertainers.

* Is Britney getting fat?
* Did Angelina get surgery?
* Is (insert entertainer's name here) getting too fat or skinny?
* Check out the new curves on so and so?

Fact is people in the pubic eye are subject to praise and/or criticism for what they do to their faces/bodies, the clothes they wear, or the relationships they have.

Kimberly James, like Britney Spears, is an entertainer. If I'm not mistaken she posed for that pic on the first page. It's not like someone sneaked into her home and took the photograph.

[AllanahStarrNYC]

Hmm, she was asked why she thought of the way people dressed because she was the editor in chieft at Harpers and Vogue int he 60's and later the curator at the Met Costume Institute. One of the most important figures in American fashion, credited with launching the careers of many designers, models, and Lauren Bacall. She passed in the late 80's.

I think she was being scarcastic as she was known for her wit and shard tounge. I don't think it's supposed ot be literal- I think sh is saying 'who cares what people think of you'

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diana_Vreeland

[phobun]

Some public figures, whether politicians, transsexual celebrities, etc., are simply beyond reproach... if you criticize certain transsexuals for instance, you're a hater, a misogynist and a "faggot".

If we all sing their praises in harmony according to the same songbook, and laud those deserving of worship using the liturgy of transsexualdom, then no one will smite you down.

There shall be no dissenting opinions about what the goddesses desire.

[Crossover1]

If she is happy with herself i don't see why anyone would, its her body so she should be able to do whatever the hell she wants to it.

Yup, and people can comment on her bad decisions. That's the price of being a public person and reaping the rewards of being publically traded.

[Nicole Dupre]

Some public figures, whether politicians, transsexual celebrities, etc., are simply beyond reproach... if you criticize certain transsexuals for instance, you're a hater, a misogynist and a "faggot".

If we all sing their praises in harmony according to the same songbook, and laud those deserving of worship using the liturgy of transsexualdom, then no one will smite you down.

There shall be no dissenting opinions about what the goddesses desire.

Only someone as off base as you could equate porn to politics and religion, and say something as grandiose as what you just did. I'd dare say that porn is the antithesis of politics. If there are any votes being cast in porn; they're made by the little head and not the big head, and they're counted in a cash register and not in a ballot box. Porn is about pleasure and freedom. Politics and religion are about predictability and accountability.

Newsflash: This is a forum with forum members. You're not having a private conversation in a bar. You're not a political journalist who's paid to write a column. If you have such strong opinions, perhaps write a blog and see it anyone bothers paying attention to it. But here, you're actually mingling with transsexual women. And, based on your terminal rigidity, it's obvious you've never had one in bed, let alone even met one. You're all theory, and no practice. We've all noticed that you're not even capable of sharing a single fact about YOUR OWN life. So why do you persist in insulting our intelligence?

Porn is not about reproach or blame. Porn is about seeking and discovering pleasure, not becoming myopic about what you don't like.

You have an internal struggle going on, and are begging to be told that you're a homosexual. The logic is inescapable.

[phobun]

She passed in the late 80's.
That's too bad she didn't pass until she was so old. Maybe plastic surgery would have helped her pass.

[phobun]

If a girl looked like Kate Hudson she wouldn't be happy
It's a tranny thing
Well, it's not necessarily a "tranny thing"... there have been both males and females who take plastic surgery to extremes. Michael Jackson did not seem to know when to stop. I think David Gest looks like he has had too much plastic surgery. Kenny Rogers looks sort of goofy in my opinion. There are others.

[Nicole Dupre]

She passed in the late 80's.
That's too bad she didn't pass until she was so old. Maybe plastic surgery would have helped her pass.
^
More off-topic hate.
More nay-saying.
More dissent.
More callousness.
More self-ostracizing.
More stalling on the task of facing your own issues.

[phobun]

She passed in the late 80's.
That's too bad she didn't pass until she was so old. Maybe plastic surgery would have helped her pass.
^
More off-topic hate.
More nay-saying.
More dissent.
More callousness.
More self-ostracizing.
More stalling on the task of facing your own issues.
It was obviously a play on words. You're obsessed.

[Nicole Dupre]

She passed in the late 80's.
That's too bad she didn't pass until she was so old. Maybe plastic surgery would have helped her pass.
^
More off-topic hate.
More nay-saying.
More dissent.
More callousness.
More self-ostracizing.
More stalling on the task of facing your own issues.
It was obviously a play on words. You're obsessed.

Do you think your "joke" went over my head? lol

I see it for what it is.

[phobun]

I see you guys complimenting crossdressers in wigs at least she is a transsexual and still attractive....
There is definitely truth in this.

[Nicole Dupre]

We don't ask for your approval. Say something nice, if you even have it in you, and move on. That's all this about. It's not about being "right". This isn't what the Yankees need to do to win the series, or how we should approach Afghanistan We know that you objectify us, which is fine if you want to pay the admission fee. But, much like in a strip bar, heckling is frowned upon. Don't like the show? Then watch one of the other girls, or simply go elsewhere. We're not your wives or girlfriends.

Suggestion to the gentlemen: Stop making this forum a place where your opinions are the cyber-equivilent of graffiti above a high school urinal. Try only saying what you would IRL and in mixed company among adults and your peers, where the women you contantly make a topic of conversation might actually overhear you. Can you do that?

[AllanahStarrNYC]

We don't ask for your approval. Say something nice, if you even have it in you, and move on. That's all this about. It's not about being "right". This isn't what the Yankees need to do to win the series, or how we should approach Afghanistan We know that you objectify us, which is fine if you want to pay the admission fee. But, much like in a strip bar, heckling is frowned upon. Don't like the show? Then watch one of the other girls, or simply go elsewhere. We're not your wives or girlfriends.

Suggestion to the gentlemen: Stop making this forum a place where your opinions are the cyber-equivilent of graffiti above a high school urinal. Try only saying what you would IRL and in mixed company among adults and your peers, where the women you contantly make a topic of conversation might actually overhear you. Can you do that?

B-I-N-G-O

[Merkurie]

Fair enough. Id say this in public to anyone who may or may not care.

Loose silicon does not belong under the skin. It gets pulled by gravity and eventually starts to slide around and is damn hard to remove. If it did not pay for Plastic Surgeon's (and other non certified practitioners) expensive lifestyles it would be illegal.

Get all the surgery you want but if someone comes at you with a Siringe Filled With Silicon RUN and RUN FAST.

I think you ladies can do whatever you want with your bodies of course; but 99.9% of you look as feminine as any GG out there and I think many of the guys here are trying in their own lame way to say that.

[hwbs]

these threads are pretty funny considering most of these guys would be embarrassed to walk down the street with a ts holding hands and shit....i see girls i am not attracted to ...but i never feel the need to make a thread about it....everyone has different tastes....if u ever want to get in good with a ts never never ever talk about plastic surgery and your opinions...

[Distance]

Your idea of a woman? Awesome, then allow me to direct you to one of my previous statements, "If you don't like lookin' at her fuckin' don't look"

So what, she's just a woman, purely a woman, does that preclude her from being able to manipulate and modify her body in the way that she sees fit? Even if it turns her into what did you say, a Panzer tank? (By the way, you'll have to explain to me how getting fuller lips leads one to becoming a a few dozen odd tons of Nazi German deathbringer)

I realise that my definition is just as different from yours as yours is from hers, and hers is from mine, etc. And while I would say that judging from what you've written previously, I suspect that I may know a great deal more than you, I can't confirm it. The difference is my concept of femininity doesn't judge her based on her individual aesthetic tastes.

Who said women were products? I said trend-setters. Not that they look like trends, I mean that they adopt certain styles, dress similarly, etc. I feel like this is a moot argument as you're going to continue mis-reading me but hey, beats doing a boring-ass essay.

Throw away your passive-agressive effeminate agression, and learn how to spell maybe? Take the body as you see her: like a fantasy gadget, obviously. She shows herself as she expects us to 'buy it'. Therefore I air my views, as you air yours. You do have a problem with defining who/what a woman is, I see -and who should comment or not. Help is...at hand. :roll:

I just read this thread. Wow. Seriously, what's bothering you? Did someone ask you if you were gay at work today or something? You've made a complete fool of yourself more than once on this forum. Is this going to be a pattern? lol

It is ok to be made a fool of on a forum- online posting is no glory, at least, to me. English is not my first language and I do type fast, so yes, I typed one word with the wrong spelling -same spelling as in my actual language. I sure can live with that. So can you, with your acidic hate towards pretty much any breathing human being. Your past, present, and future. :roll:

[muhmuh]

how is this a ts issue anyway? ggs who live in the public eye get just as much stick (more probably since theyre more mainstream) when they get badly done surgeries

[Nicole Dupre]

It is ok to be made a fool of on a forum- online posting is no glory, at least, to me. English is not my first language and I do type fast, so yes, I typed one word with the wrong spelling -same spelling as in my actual language. I sure can live with that. So can you, with your acidic hate towards pretty much any breathing human being. Your past, present, and future. :roll:


I don't speak Dipshitese, so pardon me. lol

[phobun]

how is this a ts issue anyway? ggs who live in the public eye get just as much stick (more probably since theyre more mainstream) when they get badly done surgeries

This is true, and echoes what 2009 was saying on page 5 of this thread. If you put your picture out for the public to say ooh-and-ahh, then you have to expect that some might not go ooh-and-ahh.

These demands that no one criticize a transsexual may be just thin-skinned narcissism in many cases.

Imagine if Madonna threw a tantrum because people criticized her appearance in the media or on forums. She won't, because she's a tougher woman than some of the wannabes here, who expect only adulation.

[Nicole Dupre]

how is this a ts issue anyway? ggs who live in the public eye get just as much stick (more probably since theyre more mainstream) when they get badly done surgeries

This is true, and echoes what 2009 was saying on page 5 of this thread. If you put your picture out for the public to say ooh-and-ahh, then you have to expect that some might not go ooh-and-ahh.

These demands that no one criticize a transsexual may be just thin-skinned narcissism in many cases.

Imagine if Madonna threw a tantrum because people criticized her appearance in the media or on forums. She won't, because she's a tougher woman than some of the wannabes here, who expect only adulation.

So the reason you reveal nothing about yourself here, including your own photo, is because you're a weak woman who knows her limitations? lol

And I'm sure many statements appear to be a "tantrum" or "demand" when you're so unnecessarily defensive and/or have a chip on your shoulder. Truth: It's actually a form of grandiosity which you're suffering from and, once again, you're projecting it.

[Distance]

It is ok to be made a fool of on a forum- online posting is no glory, at least, to me. English is not my first language and I do type fast, so yes, I typed one word with the wrong spelling -same spelling as in my actual language. I sure can live with that. So can you, with your acidic hate towards pretty much any breathing human being. Your past, present, and future. :roll:


I don't speak Dipshitese, so pardon me. lol

You don't? Seems you clearly understand it though. :roll:
Now do yourself and this forum a big favor...go play Russian roulettte, douchecock.

[Nicole Dupre]

It is ok to be made a fool of on a forum- online posting is no glory, at least, to me. English is not my first language and I do type fast, so yes, I typed one word with the wrong spelling -same spelling as in my actual language. I sure can live with that. So can you, with your acidic hate towards pretty much any breathing human being. Your past, present, and future. :roll:


I don't speak Dipshitese, so pardon me. lol

You don't? Seems you clearly understand it though. :roll:
Now do yourself and this forum a big favor...go play Russian roulettte, douchecock.


Awwww. Did I upset you, fruity face? And now you'd like me to die to help you to forget that you're gay? There, there. I'm sorry I hurt your feelings. How sad and lonely you must be. No girlfriend? Right? I truly pity you.

[Nicole Dupre]

Imagine if Madonna threw a tantrum because people criticized her appearance in the media or on forums. She won't, because she's a tougher woman than some of the wannabes here, who expect only adulation.

"Imagine" if you didn't run away, and hide like a gay bitch, whenever you were asked a direct question that you were too ashamed to answer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okd3hLlvvLw

[phobun]

Imagine if Madonna threw a tantrum because people criticized her appearance in the media or on forums. She won't, because she's a tougher woman than some of the wannabes here, who expect only adulation.

"Imagine" if you didn't run away, and hide like a gay bitch, whenever you were asked a direct question that you were too ashamed to answer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okd3hLlvvLw
This website has much to offer you: http://www.nmha.org/go/help

I wish you success in finding inner peace and happiness.

[Nicole Dupre]

Imagine if Madonna threw a tantrum because people criticized her appearance in the media or on forums. She won't, because she's a tougher woman than some of the wannabes here, who expect only adulation.

"Imagine" if you didn't run away, and hide like a gay bitch, whenever you were asked a direct question that you were too ashamed to answer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okd3hLlvvLw
This website has much to offer you: http://www.nmha.org/go/help

I wish you success in finding inner peace and happiness.

I don't click on links posted by opinionated bluff artists. But nice try, Mr angry virgin.

[trish]

We don't ask for your approval. Say something nice, if you even have it in you, and move on. That's all this about. It's not about being "right". This isn't what the Yankees need to do to win the series, or how we should approach Afghanistan We know that you objectify us, which is fine if you want to pay the admission fee. But, much like in a strip bar, heckling is frowned upon. Don't like the show? Then watch one of the other girls, or simply go elsewhere. We're not your wives or girlfriends.

Suggestion to the gentlemen: Stop making this forum a place where your opinions are the cyber-equivilent of graffiti above a high school urinal. Try only saying what you would IRL and in mixed company among adults and your peers, where the women you contantly make a topic of conversation might actually overhear you. Can you do that? :claps :claps :claps :claps :claps

[Clind]

So because i saw to many fights because the thread that i made, i want to explain something, there is no hate, will to hurt, will to open big discussions about nothing or anything else complicate.

The only think that i say is that Kimber is very had a very beatifull natural smile and she destroyed, i dont understand where do you find all this strange messages.

This has not relation only with Transgirls, also many many women have they same crazy and unsecurity, and this preety fucked up for everyone, because finally they are becaming victims of an industie that demands all to be the same, so i m saying dont do that is pretty bad, to try all of us to look almost same.

Also about this moto that it says "if she is happy and ...bla bla" this is a little beat bullshit because the fact that makes you happy all the time new surgeries maybe make you very stessfull with your look and you are not so happy.

So girls stop making plastic surgeries all the time, you look just fine!!

[Nicole Dupre]

So because i saw to many fights because the thread that i made, i want to explain something, there is no hate, will to hurt, will to open big discussions about nothing or anything else complicate.

The only think that i say is that Kimber is very had a very beatifull natural smile and she destroyed, i dont understand where do you find all this strange messages.

This has not relation only with Transgirls, also many many women have they same crazy and unsecurity, and this preety fucked up for everyone, because finally they are becaming victims of an industie that demands all to be the same, so i m saying dont do that is pretty bad, to try all of us to look almost same.

Also about this moto that it says "if she is happy and ...bla bla" this is a little beat bullshit because the fact that makes you happy all the time new surgeries maybe make you very stessfull with your look and you are not so happy.

So girls stop making plastic surgeries all the time, you look just fine!!

Heh! Yuh aruh one wahld anduh crazih gah!

We aruh foxes, so led us shuh yuh aruh beeg American breasts and get you swinging!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWOzUzJd6wM

[Distance]

It is ok to be made a fool of on a forum- online posting is no glory, at least, to me. English is not my first language and I do type fast, so yes, I typed one word with the wrong spelling -same spelling as in my actual language. I sure can live with that. So can you, with your acidic hate towards pretty much any breathing human being. Your past, present, and future. :roll:


I don't speak Dipshitese, so pardon me. lol

You don't? Seems you clearly understand it though. :roll:
Now do yourself and this forum a big favor...go play Russian roulettte, douchecock.


Awwww. Did I upset you, fruity face? And now you'd like me to die to help you to forget that you're gay? There, there. I'm sorry I hurt your feelings. How sad and lonely you must be. No girlfriend? Right? I truly pity you.

Oh. I am so upset. :roll:


I'd rather have a fruity face, than look like a cheap trashy manly whore in denial of its 45 years of age, full of crack and industrial paint. An anthem to massive lithium intake. Who said I wanted you to die? But you are just unlucky in life, hey, that we can read. What a waste of bandwith you make.

[phobun]

Imagine if Madonna threw a tantrum because people criticized her appearance in the media or on forums. She won't, because she's a tougher woman than some of the wannabes here, who expect only adulation.

"Imagine" if you didn't run away, and hide like a gay bitch, whenever you were asked a direct question that you were too ashamed to answer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okd3hLlvvLw
This website has much to offer you: http://www.nmha.org/go/help

I wish you success in finding inner peace and happiness.

I don't click on links posted by opinionated bluff artists. But nice try, Mr angry virgin.
Well it is a list of resources to help from Mental Health America, including a toll-free crisis helpline.

Do get help.

[Clind]

So because i saw to many fights because the thread that i made, i want to explain something, there is no hate, will to hurt, will to open big discussions about nothing or anything else complicate.

The only think that i say is that Kimber is very had a very beatifull natural smile and she destroyed, i dont understand where do you find all this strange messages.

This has not relation only with Transgirls, also many many women have they same crazy and unsecurity, and this preety fucked up for everyone, because finally they are becaming victims of an industie that demands all to be the same, so i m saying dont do that is pretty bad, to try all of us to look almost same.

Also about this moto that it says "if she is happy and ...bla bla" this is a little beat bullshit because the fact that makes you happy all the time new surgeries maybe make you very stessfull with your look and you are not so happy.

So girls stop making plastic surgeries all the time, you look just fine!!

Heh! Yuh aruh one wahld anduh crazih gah!

We aruh foxes, so led us shuh yuh aruh beeg American breasts and get you swinging!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWOzUzJd6wM

lol Nicole very smart that you make fun of me because i m not talking enlgish well, i didnt expect something smarter to be honest ...oh thank you also that you send me video with your work.

[trish]

Clind writes
the only think that i say is that Kimber is very had a very beatifull natural smile and she destroyed, i dont understand where do you find all this strange messages.The only thing I say is that a lot of guys here had very beautiful natural thoughts and then destroyed them by trying to be something they're not. I don’t understand why anyone would find my saying this offensive. I’m just saying you came here to be fans and then you went a step or two too far and wound up being unthinking jerks. We liked you before, when you were civil and not the false, plasticized version of machismo you're attempting to display. It’s not hating on you to say you’re being an ignorant jerk. Just STOP IT.

[Clind]

Clind writes
the only think that i say is that Kimber is very had a very beatifull natural smile and she destroyed, i dont understand where do you find all this strange messages.The only thing I say is that a lot of guys here had very beautiful natural thoughts and then destroyed them by trying to be something they're not. I don’t understand why anyone would find my saying this offensive. I’m just saying you came here to be fans and then you went a step or two too far and wound up being unthinking jerks. We liked you before, when you were civil and not the false, plasticized version of machismo you're attempting to display. It’s not hating on you to say you’re being an ignorant jerk. Just STOP IT.

bullshit , when you are going to pick as a lover you are going to check also everything, dick, belly, you are going to chat with your friends, if he was fucking good, how many time he can canfuck etc, etc, so dont try to make a political activist statement, because this is what we call HYPOCRISY !!


..also because i m seeing too many comments about my english( i m Greek) if anyone kargiolis, wants to speak my language he is welcome, other wise ante kai gamidia mounopano :)

[trish]

Hey Tuco! How is asking you not to be a jerk a "politically activist statement"? I'm just saying you tried to be a critic, went too far, and made yourself into a clown. Nothing political about that. Just stop it before you ruin your image entirely.

[gotchagood]

Kimber is probably one of the hottest transsexual girls around today, with or without her body/face modifications. I would even venture to say that girls like Kimber make choices based on what "she" wants. I would bet she does it for herself and probably not for a bunch of guys who fantasize all day about sucking dick and taking cock in their asses.

So while all of you boys are sitting around with your family and friends hiding the fact that you suck dick in the closet, get over yourselves, life does not revolve around you (even though your mothers probably told you you are special all your life). If you don't like the direction a porn performer such as Kimber is taking, then move on to a different girl more suited to your interests.Why such nastiness?? The only thing that the original post was about was the fact that many of today's women including gg's have gone overboard with some of the plastic surgery; "that" I agree on. I agree that if Kimber wants to have "her" lips super full like that and if that's how she wants to present herself as a woman to the world, than bravo! Get'em big enough to make you float, see ya. And I also agree that if the guys on here don't like her new look, then maybe they "should" look at other/another women as a sex symbol, fantasy etc, but to go off into a spew of nastiness toward them is totally uncalled for, You can make a point without calling someone a co*k sucker or closet fa**ot when most guys on here have a special appreciation and respect for many of the ladies here.

Have a great day 8)

[Nicole Dupre]

Oh. I am so upset. :roll:


I'd rather have a fruity face, than look like a cheap trashy manly whore in denial of its 45 years of age, full of crack and industrial paint. An anthem to massive lithium intake. Who said I wanted you to die? But you are just unlucky in life, hey, that we can read. What a waste of bandwith you make.

I wish I could help you, but I can only feed you more treats, Mr Angry Monkey. :(

But you are now my very own pet monkey, cuz my ma said I get to keep you! So I'm going to dress you up like a lady and serve you tea! Would you like that, my pet monkey?

Dance for me, Mr Monkey! I will give another banana! Promise! :peanutbutter

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/2908/monkeydrummert.gif

[lisaparadise]

i cant believe some of you people are dishing one of the most beautifull girls on the planet,whats wrong with you people are your lives that boring and your look that perfect that it makes you feel better when you critique others ?

[Nicole Dupre]

Homo says what?...



Well it is a list of resources to help from Mental Health America, including a toll-free crisis helpline.

Do get help.

I can't hear you, homo. Sorry. The closet door is shut. :P

[Distance]

Oh. I am so upset. :roll:


I'd rather have a fruity face, than look like a cheap trashy manly whore in denial of its 45 years of age, full of crack and industrial paint. An anthem to massive lithium intake. Who said I wanted you to die? But you are just unlucky in life, hey, that we can read. What a waste of bandwith you make.

I wish I could help you, but I can only feed you more treats, Mr Angry Monkey. :(

But you are now my very own pet monkey, cuz my ma said I get to keep you! So I'm going to dress you up like a lady and serve you tea! Would you like that, my pet monkey?

Dance for me, Mr Monkey! I will give another banana! Promise! :peanutbutter

http://img29.imageshack.us/img29/2908/monkeydrummert.gif

It's all about your mama. Remember when you identified to her sexual needs and turned gay, Nicolas? The banana and phallic symbol...keep it where you stick it best. :wink:

[Nicole Dupre]

It's all about your mama. Remember when you identified to her sexual needs and turned gay, Nicolas? The banana and phallic symbol...keep it where you stick it best. :wink:

Yay! You sure love dancing!

Do it again, my mean ol' pet monkey.

Now dance! I love it! :peanutbutter

[Distance]

:lol:

[sucka4chix]

Since it's been recently proven that PC kills (re: Ft. Hood), I'm through playing that stupid game. This is about the umteenth thread about Kimber's lips and therefore it's annoying and old. Yes they're big and "different" but they've been like that--- let it go.
What's most disturbing is you tranny enablers that say it's her body she can do what she wants. Nobody said you all ask for our approval; maybe before you get defensive (or offensive) you should maybe consider that people are trying to help. Lost on all of you are lines like "you look beautiful the way you are"!!!!! Some girls are naturally beautiful but they have a psychosis where they can't see it, so they start altering shit that doesn't need to be altered. And they won't stop because they NEVER think they are beautiful no matter how many people tell them so. An anorexic has a right to do what she wants too, I guess, but only an evil person wouldn't step in and try to help them.
And this bullshit about feminizing--- is Gwen Stefani feminine??? What makes her that way--- certainly not her big boobs or her fat assed lips. For people whose one objective is to be feminine, seems alot of you have no idea what that means!!

[dabaldone]

Since it's been recently proven that PC kills (re: Ft. Hood), I'm through playing that stupid game. This is about the umteenth thread about Kimber's lips and therefore it's annoying and old. Yes they're big and "different" but they've been like that--- let it go.
What's most disturbing is you tranny enablers that say it's her body she can do what she wants. Nobody said you all ask for our approval; maybe before you get defensive (or offensive) you should maybe consider that people are trying to help. Lost on all of you are lines like "you look beautiful the way you are"!!!!! Some girls are naturally beautiful but they have a psychosis where they can't see it, so they start altering shit that doesn't need to be altered. And they won't stop because they NEVER think they are beautiful no matter how many people tell them so. An anorexic has a right to do what she wants too, I guess, but only an evil person wouldn't step in and try to help them.
And this bullshit about feminizing--- is Gwen Stefani feminine??? What makes her that way--- certainly not her big boobs or her fat assed lips. For people whose one objective is to be feminine, seems alot of you have no idea what that means!!

Nicely said.

[trish]

Stop being jerks. I'm only trying to give you some helpful advice. If some stupid nitwit was about to light a match near a gas pump, only an evil person wouldn't step in and try to stop them. I['m] through playing the PC game. For your own good I['m] informing all you would be critics that you're making yourselves ugly.

[Nicole Dupre]

Since it's been recently proven that PC kills (re: Ft. Hood), I'm through playing that stupid game. This is about the umteenth thread about Kimber's lips and therefore it's annoying and old. Yes they're big and "different" but they've been like that--- let it go.
What's most disturbing is you tranny enablers that say it's her body she can do what she wants. Nobody said you all ask for our approval; maybe before you get defensive (or offensive) you should maybe consider that people are trying to help. Lost on all of you are lines like "you look beautiful the way you are"!!!!! Some girls are naturally beautiful but they have a psychosis where they can't see it, so they start altering shit that doesn't need to be altered. And they won't stop because they NEVER think they are beautiful no matter how many people tell them so. An anorexic has a right to do what she wants too, I guess, but only an evil person wouldn't step in and try to help them.
And this bullshit about feminizing--- is Gwen Stefani feminine??? What makes her that way--- certainly not her big boobs or her fat assed lips. For people whose one objective is to be feminine, seems alot of you have no idea what that means!!

Hey, big brain. Kimber doesn't need fake concern from the peanut gallery, so kindly stfu. You're out of line. We don't need you name dropping Gwen Stefani. Gwen isn't up against the same jackass crew you belong to.

Get back to downloading the free porn, instead of talking about a human being like they're a piece of wood. You don't give a damn and you know it.

You assholes need to fix your own damn lives. How dare you come here and cop this bullshit attitude? You motherfuckers show up with all this sketchy advice, well beyond the point of our struggles, and dare talk smack? Go find yourselves some pussy or dick, you losers. Remember, we are NOT your wives or GFs. So if you can't come here for a little fun and keep it cute, then fuck off.

[blonde_sweetheart]

Since it's been recently proven that PC kills (re: Ft. Hood), I'm through playing that stupid game. This is about the umteenth thread about Kimber's lips and therefore it's annoying and old. Yes they're big and "different" but they've been like that--- let it go.
What's most disturbing is you tranny enablers that say it's her body she can do what she wants. Nobody said you all ask for our approval; maybe before you get defensive (or offensive) you should maybe consider that people are trying to help. Lost on all of you are lines like "you look beautiful the way you are"!!!!! Some girls are naturally beautiful but they have a psychosis where they can't see it, so they start altering shit that doesn't need to be altered. And they won't stop because they NEVER think they are beautiful no matter how many people tell them so. An anorexic has a right to do what she wants too, I guess, but only an evil person wouldn't step in and try to help them.
And this bullshit about feminizing--- is Gwen Stefani feminine??? What makes her that way--- certainly not her big boobs or her fat assed lips. For people whose one objective is to be feminine, seems alot of you have no idea what that means!!

Hey, big brain. Kimber doesn't need fake concern from the peanut gallery, so kindly stfu. You're out of line. We don't need you name dropping Gwen Stefani. Gwen isn't up against the same jackass crew you belong to.

Get back to downloading the free porn, instead of talking about a human being like they're a piece of wood. You don't give a damn and you know it.

You assholes need to fix your own damn lives. How dare you come here and cop this bullshit attitude? You motherfuckers show up with all this sketchy advice, well beyond the point of our struggles, and dare talk smack? Go find yourselves some pussy or dick, you losers. Remember, we are NOT your wives or GFs. So if you can't come here for a little fun and keep it cute, then fuck off.

Amen Nicole. It almost makes me wanna get huge tits & lips JUST to piss people off.

[sucka4chix]

You know Jack shit about me so keep your crass comments to yourself!
The only people treating human beings like a piece of wood are the ones who feel they can carve themselves up or whittle at will or paint themselves like a fence.
I have more genuine concern for people than your ignorant comments display.
But you're right we shouldn't care for people who don't appreciate shit.

"Cant talk to a psycho like a normal human being"- Poe

[Nicole Dupre]

You know Jack shit about me so keep your crass comments to yourself! We already have TMI about you, "sucka". Now get sucking on a dick. Your approval's neither desired nor required.


I have more genuine concern for people than your ignorant comments display.
Talk's cheap. You need to join the Peace Corps, or become an organ donor.

But do us all a favor, please? Stfu. Thanks.


"Cant talk to a psycho like a normal human being"- Poe

"Physician, heal thyself." Luke 4:23

[GullyFoyle]

Since it's been recently proven that PC kills (re: Ft. Hood)

You can't be that incredibly stupid, can you? Are you fucking serious? Are you that bigoted that you'd think this is a terrorist attack because he had an Arabic name? It was the fucking bullets that killed those people you brainstem. You're probably one of those morons who want to keep GLBT out of the military too. What's next? Shitcan anyone with a Asian name because of Chinese espionage? Blackball anyone with a Slavic surname because Russia is our nemesis. How about kicking out every African American due to the possibility of gang affiliations? Lastly, let's purge our military of all Hispanics because we all know they're all part of the drug cartels.

All that would be left are lily white assholes like you who have nothing better to do than inject puerile crap like that into every discussion. So go back to listening to the rantings and raving of <insert your favorite right wing whacko here> and fantasize about living in that Aryan utopia in your head.

[sucka4chix]

Since it's been recently proven that PC kills (re: Ft. Hood)

You can't be that incredibly stupid, can you? Are you fucking serious? Are you that bigoted that you'd think this is a terrorist attack because he had an Arabic name? It was the fucking bullets that killed those people you brainstem. You're probably one of those morons who want to keep GLBT out of the military too. What's next? Shitcan anyone with a Asian name because of Chinese espionage? Blackball anyone with a Slavic surname because Russia is our nemesis. How about kicking out every African American due to the possibility of gang affiliations? Lastly, let's purge our military of all Hispanics because we all know they're all part of the drug cartels.

All that would be left are lily white assholes like you who have nothing better to do than inject puerile crap like that into every discussion. So go back to listening to the rantings and raving of <insert your favorite right wing whacko here> and fantasize about living in that Aryan utopia in your head.

Once again an ignorant ass who just lives to spew venom. You obviously know nothing about what happened there and like Miss Sunshine above, even less about who you're talking to!! Learn something before opening your stupid mouth or turning on your computer.

[beandip]

Newsflash. Bullets do not kill people. People kill people.

You could go to Walmart, buy some "bullets" (rounds actually) and sprinkle them all over your bedroom. Leave 'em there for a few years. They won't kill anyone.

Another thing, read up on this nutter. Aside from the fact that he hasn't gotten laid in like almost 20 years....LOL, the killings were in fact a terrorist act.

[ronniej]

As far as her getting it done for herself.....I'm betting not. She has become a product and is making money off of it.

Honestly a fat upper lip just isn't sexy imo. I don't see why people keep having it done. As I've said before....you can ruin your looks. Look up Danielle Evangelista now and see what I mean.

[Paladin]

The hate directed at TS girls who DARE feminize their body's is disgusting and disturbing.

Do you call that 'feminizing'? It's not, and that is what is disturbing. A woman is all about subtility. Not an advertisment for ripe watermelon-like lips. Those using surgery to this extent look like Carnival scary thingies. Nothing feminine here for me.

Gotta agree with you here Distance.

[MRSJHANIAHLOVE]

what people here on ha FAIL to realize... is that WOMEN GET PLASTIC SURGERY!!!!! and i can say that a million times! here, WOMEN GET PLASTIC SURGERY WOMEN GET PLASTIC SURGERY WOMEN GET PLASTIC SURGERY WOMEN GET PLASTIC SURGERY WOMEN GET PLASTIC SURGERY WOMEN GET PLASTIC SURGERY WOMEN GET PLASTIC SURGERY WOMEN GET PLASTIC SURGERY WOMEN GET PLASTIC SURGERY WOMEN GET PLASTIC SURGERY want more??? now the REAL reason YOU COCK SUCKING FAGGOTTS DONT LIKE PLASTIC SURGERY IS CAUSE YOU LIKE MANLY TRANNIES!!! ONES YOU CAN STILL SEE THE BOY IN!!!!!!!!!! DICK SUCKING FAGGOTTS!!!!!!!!!! :shock: GO CHOKE ON A COCK!!!!!!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

[JamesHunt]

what people here on ha FAIL to realize... is that WOMEN GET PLASTIC SURGERY!!!!! and i can say that a million times! here, WOMEN GET PLASTIC SURGERY WOMEN GET PLASTIC SURGERY WOMEN GET PLASTIC SURGERY WOMEN GET PLASTIC SURGERY WOMEN GET PLASTIC SURGERY WOMEN GET PLASTIC SURGERY WOMEN GET PLASTIC SURGERY WOMEN GET PLASTIC SURGERY WOMEN GET PLASTIC SURGERY WOMEN GET PLASTIC SURGERY want more??? now the REAL reason YOU COCK SUCKING FAGGOTTS DONT LIKE PLASTIC SURGERY IS CAUSE YOU LIKE MANLY TRANNIES!!! ONES YOU CAN STILL SEE THE BOY IN!!!!!!!!!! DICK SUCKING FAGGOTTS!!!!!!!!!! :shock: GO CHOKE ON A COCK!!!!!!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Your tits look fake

[MRSJHANIAHLOVE]

what people here on ha FAIL to realize... is that WOMEN GET PLASTIC SURGERY!!!!! and i can say that a million times! here, WOMEN GET PLASTIC SURGERY WOMEN GET PLASTIC SURGERY WOMEN GET PLASTIC SURGERY WOMEN GET PLASTIC SURGERY WOMEN GET PLASTIC SURGERY WOMEN GET PLASTIC SURGERY WOMEN GET PLASTIC SURGERY WOMEN GET PLASTIC SURGERY WOMEN GET PLASTIC SURGERY WOMEN GET PLASTIC SURGERY want more??? now the REAL reason YOU COCK SUCKING FAGGOTTS DONT LIKE PLASTIC SURGERY IS CAUSE YOU LIKE MANLY TRANNIES!!! ONES YOU CAN STILL SEE THE BOY IN!!!!!!!!!! DICK SUCKING FAGGOTTS!!!!!!!!!! :shock: GO CHOKE ON A COCK!!!!!!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Your tits look fakeTHANKYOU THATS WHAT I WANT :D

[JamesHunt]

now the REAL reason YOU COCK SUCKING FAGGOTTS DONT LIKE PLASTIC SURGERY IS CAUSE YOU LIKE MANLY TRANNIES!!! ONES YOU CAN STILL SEE THE BOY IN!!!!!!!!!!

so where do fake tits come into the equation :roll:

[MRSJHANIAHLOVE]

now the REAL reason YOU COCK SUCKING FAGGOTTS DONT LIKE PLASTIC SURGERY IS CAUSE YOU LIKE MANLY TRANNIES!!! ONES YOU CAN STILL SEE THE BOY IN!!!!!!!!!!

so where do fake tits come into the equation :roll: since when did "you" come into the equation :roll: you make no sense, just like a typical cock sucking faggott who is against feminization. :lol:

[MRSJHANIAHLOVE]

women get plastic surgery! LOTS OF IT!!! seriously WHATS YOUR POINT?

[JamesHunt]

now im gonna take some time and post attractive women who have had lots of plastic surgery

you're loopy

[MRSJHANIAHLOVE]

now im gonna take some time and post attractive women who have had lots of plastic surgery

you're loopytrying to raise your post count? lol fag.

[MRSJHANIAHLOVE]

more! real biological women with PLASTIC SURGERY! OMG! NOT PLASTIC SURGERY! HOW DARE YOU!

[MRSJHANIAHLOVE]

more!

[JamesHunt]

women get plastic surgery! LOTS OF IT!!! seriously WHATS YOUR POINT?


now im gonna take some time and post attractive women who have had lots of plastic surgery

for every pic you post of women who've had plastic surgery, the guys on here will post ten that haven't, cos they don't need it.

[MRSJHANIAHLOVE]

more HA HA!!!

[MRSJHANIAHLOVE]

am i making you mad? GOOD! PLASTIC MAKES PERFECT!

[MRSJHANIAHLOVE]

more!

[MRSJHANIAHLOVE]

more!

[MRSJHANIAHLOVE]

jealous? do you want a hormone shot? are you mad its too late for YOU to transition?

[MRSJHANIAHLOVE]

more!

[farang]

I think the women in the pics are the sort that are not exactly taken serious.

[MRSJHANIAHLOVE]

everyones doing it, its 2009 get over it!

[MRSJHANIAHLOVE]

NOT TAKEN SERIOUS??? :shock: HE PUT A RING ON HER FINGER! and im pretty sure hes got more money than you do! :lol:

[MRSJHANIAHLOVE]

oh and LETS NOT FORGET THIS ONE!

[MRSJHANIAHLOVE]

more!

[farang]

I rest my case.

[MRSJHANIAHLOVE]

good job!!! cause this is an arguement YOU WILL NOT WIN! :lol:

[farang]

Its not an arguement it is a fact women with huge fake tits are not taken seriously by the general public. They are regarded as bimbos with no brains.
I am not saying I agree or disagree with that view however I am not going to stick my head in the sand and pretend it is not so.

[MRSJHANIAHLOVE]

Its not an arguement it is a fact women with huge fake tits are not taken seriously by the general public. They are regarded as bimbos with no brains.
I am not saying I agree or disagree with that view however I am not going to stick my head in the sand and pretend it is not so.sorry thats just not true, maybey the small percent of the public who are ugly JEALOUS and cant get laid :roll:

[farang]

Jhaniah when I was your age I also had some firm views. I believed the earth was flat and if you sailed to the edge of the sea you would fall off.
I am now older and a lot wiser. I am sure that your views may change as you experience more of life than your current 20 years.

[Nicole Dupre]

sorry thats just not true, maybey the small percent of the public who are ugly JEALOUS and cant get laid :roll:

LMFAO!

Fellaz, when you feel so disappointed in us for doing what we do, that's your golden opportunity to move on to someone who you prefer. We live our lives as we want to, and we don't sweat anonymous guys not downloading free pics of us. ;) I suggest that you grumble silently when you grumble alone. lol

[MRSJHANIAHLOVE]

Jhaniah when I was your age I also had some firm views. I believed the earth was flat and if you sailed to the edge of the sea you would fall off.
I am now older and a lot wiser. I am sure that your views may change as you experience more of life than your current 20 years.yah okay thomas jefferson :roll: you keep believing that. my opinions on plastic surgery will NEVER change! i have a question, are you DEAF? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WM1nD5AlPwk GODDAMITT DONT YOU HEAR THE ROOTING? NEED A Q-TIP? MAYBEY YOU CANT AFFORD ONE!!! YOU CANT AFFORD US! AFTER ALL ISNT THAT WHY YOURE HERE GIVING YOUR LAME, SORRY BULLSHITT ASS OPINIONS??? SHUT THE FUCK UP AND STOP BEING SO FUCKIN JEALOUS!!! PLASTIC SURGERY IS BEAUUUTIFUL!!! you cock suckin faggotts need to get a life :x

[farang]

Jhaniah when I was your age I also had some firm views. I believed the earth was flat and if you sailed to the edge of the sea you would fall off.
I am now older and a lot wiser. I am sure that your views may change as you experience more of life than your current 20 years.yah okay thomas jefferson :roll: you keep believing that. my opinions on plastic surgery will NEVER change! i have a question, are you DEAF? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WM1nD5AlPwk GODDAMITT DONT YOU HEAR THE ROOTING? NEED A Q-TIP? MAYBEY YOU CANT AFFORD ONE!!! YOU CANT AFFORD US! AFTER ALL ISNT THAT WHY YOURE HERE GIVING YOU LAME, SORRY BULLSHITT ASS OPINIONS??? SHUT THE FUCK UP AND STOP BEING SO FUCKIN JEALOUS!!! PLASTIC SURGERY IS BEAUUUTIFUL!!! you cock suckin faggotts need to get a life :x

:lol: :lol: :lol: :roll: The clip you have posted shows how insane people can be. Allanah admits to being addicted to plastic surgery and you are impressed by that ?

[MRSJHANIAHLOVE]

Jhaniah when I was your age I also had some firm views. I believed the earth was flat and if you sailed to the edge of the sea you would fall off.
I am now older and a lot wiser. I am sure that your views may change as you experience more of life than your current 20 years.yah okay thomas jefferson :roll: you keep believing that. my opinions on plastic surgery will NEVER change! i have a question, are you DEAF? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WM1nD5AlPwk GODDAMITT DONT YOU HEAR THE ROOTING? NEED A Q-TIP? MAYBEY YOU CANT AFFORD ONE!!! YOU CANT AFFORD US! AFTER ALL ISNT THAT WHY YOURE HERE GIVING YOU LAME, SORRY BULLSHITT ASS OPINIONS??? SHUT THE FUCK UP AND STOP BEING SO FUCKIN JEALOUS!!! PLASTIC SURGERY IS BEAUUUTIFUL!!! you cock suckin faggotts need to get a life :x

:lol: :lol: :lol: :roll: The clip you have posted shows how insane people can be. Allanah admits to being addicted to plastic surgery and you are impressed by that ?YES BECAUSE IT LOOKS GOOD YOU STUPID PRICK :lol:

[farang]

Jhanihorea you are mixed up.

[MRSJHANIAHLOVE]

post your pic so i can tell you what you need? seriously, i bet you look like a piece of babboon shitt. anybody criticizing someone for drastically improving their appearance HAS TO BE UGLY, no ifs ands or butts. they themselves either do not have the cash or courage to follow their own dreams. AND THATS MY OPINION BITCH!

[nytico]

cool sig, kinda look like a hot tiny girl in a dusty vent.

[farang]

Having oversized breasts is not what I call drastically improving your looks.
Nothing wrong with FFS or having a Breast Job or other surgeries. I never said that. I said that the general public do not take people seriously if they have huge oversized tits.
You seem to get all in a tizz and just start to rant and confuse yourself about what people have said.

[MRSJHANIAHLOVE]

Having oversized breasts is not what I call drastically improving your looks.
Nothing wrong with FFS or having a Breast Job or other surgeries. I never said that. I said that the general public do not take people seriously if they have huge oversized tits.
You seem to get all in a tizz and just start to rant and confuse yourself about what people have said.and you still stand incorrect! your views on what the "general public" think are simply just an opinion, (YOUR OPINION) not a fact.

[farang]

Perhaps we should then agree to disagree then as it is clear we have differing views.

[MRSJHANIAHLOVE]

Having oversized breasts is not what I call drastically improving your looks. and until you decide to post your pic, why dont you just be quiet 8)

[MRSJHANIAHLOVE]

Perhaps we should then agree to disagree then as it is clear we have differing views.show me a poll that women with huge tits are viewed as "bimbos" and ill shut the fuck up :lol:

[MRSJHANIAHLOVE]

YOU CANT NOW GO TO HELL!

[farang]

Having another tantrum are we ? :roll:

[MRSJHANIAHLOVE]

Having another tantrum are we ? lol :shock: you nailed it!

[ncc-1701]

I dont understand all of this hate. It doesnt make sense. If she wants to do it then let her. If she feels better that way then who are we to say anything different?

Shes hot and thats that.

[Nicole Dupre]

Again, women don't appreciate fashion and style tips from men. All F/T M2F have some "aftermarket" work. Unless you're our significant other, fellas, pleaser refrain from the critiques. Women like compliments, not criticism. Thank you. When people insist on inserting their opinions about how how other people should live their lives - especially when those other people are NOT asking for the advice or hurting anyone, and the critics have nothing to show themselves - the self-appointed critics have chosen to tapdance on a slippery slope.

[MRSJHANIAHLOVE]

Again, women don't appreciate fashion and style tips from men. All F/T M2F have some "aftermarket" work. Unless you're our significant other, fellas, pleaser refrain from the critiques. Women like compliments, not criticism. Thank you. When people insist on inserting their opinions about how how other people should live their lives - especially when those other people are NOT asking for the advice or hurting anyone, and the critics have nothing to show themselves - the self-appointed critics have chosen to tapdance on a slippery slope.especially if theyre not MAN ENOUGH to post a pic, on here anyway 8)

[Nicole Dupre]

now im gonna take some time and post attractive women who have had lots of plastic surgery

you're loopy

I hate it when you go into male chauvinist mode. James, you score a few points with me and then begin losing them shortly after. Jhaniah looks great. Can't you just say something nice and, if you can't, remain silent?

Ya know, people call me a bitch, etc but I only go off on people for real reasons. My detractors should learn to be half as consistent, logical, or honest as I am.

[Tika]

Plastic surgery chasers are all about the fetishization of the female form, as Jhaniah so expertly pointed out with her rabid series of posts featuring blonde girls with big tits.

It's never about what the girls getting the surgery think would fit in with the general public and male them look "reasonably" feminine. It's about over the top, porn star, rap video, megasuperultraslut looks. Why? Because they weren't born that way. Venus envy, basically.

They're young, fucked in the head and cannot for the life of them see that it's their idealized feminine vision they're chasing. Jhaniah wants to be a big-titted blonde, so that's what she idealizes. She's in love with the idea of being that person and will not, cannot stand any other point of view.

It's the same with any other of the plastic fantastics around, like Kelly or Wendy Williams. Kelly stopped looking like a person years ago. Now she's just a mannequin - odd features, no facial mobility, blech. Wendy looks like a bloated corpse. Too much silicone in a desperate attempt to look feminine.

Here's a protip, girls: Feminine isn't about hips, tits, vagina or anything else except presentation, attitude and demeanor. There are tons of GGs out there with no ass, flat chests, square jaws, big hands, tall, chunky, god knows what kind of body or facial shape. You've got what you've got, and in our case, we have a shitload of Y chromosomes to deal with. All the plastic surgery in the world isn't going to make that go away. You can get cut, carved, injected, molded and whatever else and you'll never get away from the circumstances of birth. No amount of surgery will ever give you what every single GG on the planet was born with. Deal with it.

HOWEVER, what we CAN do as transsexuals is not to hide behind the knife and needle. We can simply say we're transsexual women, just like European women, or tall women, or skinny women. It's just another modifier. Be content with that and live a life free of the demons of having to slice yourself up like a turkey in order to satisfy some twisted inner notion of sex appeal.

Every time one of us gets another procedure done, it's affirming the idea that women are sex object, that we're things for usage and consumption. It's affirming that women are vain, shallow and need others to find them attractive in order to have a purpose.

That's bullshit. Take that money you're wasting on surgery and buy a house, go to school, donate to starving children or build a school in a 3rd world country. Stop being such selfish, disgusting, stupid people and do something better for the world.

[MRSJHANIAHLOVE]

Jhaniah wants to be a big-titted blonde, so that's what she idealizes. .honey I AM a big tittied blonde :roll:

[phobun]

Plastic surgery chasers are all about the fetishization of the female form, as Jhaniah so expertly pointed out with her rabid series of posts featuring blonde girls with big tits.

It's never about what the girls getting the surgery think would fit in with the general public and male them look "reasonably" feminine. It's about over the top, porn star, rap video, megasuperultraslut looks. Why? Because they weren't born that way. Venus envy, basically.

They're young, fucked in the head and cannot for the life of them see that it's their idealized feminine vision they're chasing. Jhaniah wants to be a big-titted blonde, so that's what she idealizes. She's in love with the idea of being that person and will not, cannot stand any other point of view.

It's the same with any other of the plastic fantastics around, like Kelly or Wendy Williams. Kelly stopped looking like a person years ago. Now she's just a mannequin - odd features, no facial mobility, blech. Wendy looks like a bloated corpse. Too much silicone in a desperate attempt to look feminine.

Here's a protip, girls: Feminine isn't about hips, tits, vagina or anything else except presentation, attitude and demeanor. There are tons of GGs out there with no ass, flat chests, square jaws, big hands, tall, chunky, god knows what kind of body or facial shape. You've got what you've got, and in our case, we have a shitload of Y chromosomes to deal with. All the plastic surgery in the world isn't going to make that go away. You can get cut, carved, injected, molded and whatever else and you'll never get away from the circumstances of birth. No amount of surgery will ever give you what every single GG on the planet was born with. Deal with it.

HOWEVER, what we CAN do as transsexuals is not to hide behind the knife and needle. We can simply say we're transsexual women, just like European women, or tall women, or skinny women. It's just another modifier. Be content with that and live a life free of the demons of having to slice yourself up like a turkey in order to satisfy some twisted inner notion of sex appeal.

Every time one of us gets another procedure done, it's affirming the idea that women are sex object, that we're things for usage and consumption. It's affirming that women are vain, shallow and need others to find them attractive in order to have a purpose.

That's bullshit. Take that money you're wasting on surgery and buy a house, go to school, donate to starving children or build a school in a 3rd world country. Stop being such selfish, disgusting, stupid people and do something better for the world.
There is A LOT of truth in this statement.

[Nicole Dupre]

Plastic surgery chasers are all about the fetishization of the female form, as Jhaniah so expertly pointed out with her rabid series of posts featuring blonde girls with big tits.

It's never about what the girls getting the surgery think would fit in with the general public and male them look "reasonably" feminine. It's about over the top, porn star, rap video, megasuperultraslut looks. Why? Because they weren't born that way. Venus envy, basically.

They're young, fucked in the head and cannot for the life of them see that it's their idealized feminine vision they're chasing. Jhaniah wants to be a big-titted blonde, so that's what she idealizes. She's in love with the idea of being that person and will not, cannot stand any other point of view.

It's the same with any other of the plastic fantastics around, like Kelly or Wendy Williams. Kelly stopped looking like a person years ago. Now she's just a mannequin - odd features, no facial mobility, blech. Wendy looks like a bloated corpse. Too much silicone in a desperate attempt to look feminine.

Here's a protip, girls: Feminine isn't about hips, tits, vagina or anything else except presentation, attitude and demeanor. There are tons of GGs out there with no ass, flat chests, square jaws, big hands, tall, chunky, god knows what kind of body or facial shape. You've got what you've got, and in our case, we have a shitload of Y chromosomes to deal with. All the plastic surgery in the world isn't going to make that go away. You can get cut, carved, injected, molded and whatever else and you'll never get away from the circumstances of birth. No amount of surgery will ever give you what every single GG on the planet was born with. Deal with it.

HOWEVER, what we CAN do as transsexuals is not to hide behind the knife and needle. We can simply say we're transsexual women, just like European women, or tall women, or skinny women. It's just another modifier. Be content with that and live a life free of the demons of having to slice yourself up like a turkey in order to satisfy some twisted inner notion of sex appeal.

Every time one of us gets another procedure done, it's affirming the idea that women are sex object, that we're things for usage and consumption. It's affirming that women are vain, shallow and need others to find them attractive in order to have a purpose.

That's bullshit. Take that money you're wasting on surgery and buy a house, go to school, donate to starving children or build a school in a 3rd world country. Stop being such selfish, disgusting, stupid people and do something better for the world.

You were even told by Seanchai to stfu on TGTalk, you sour transvestite. So why don't you take his advice, brick?

Btw I've actually seen your face, Verideon, and it's NOT cute. You're an unsightly DOG, who changes old peoples' diapers for a living. Feel bitter much, Rover? If so, go scrub the poo from under the nails on those manly hands, and play with your chew toys for a while.

[lisaparadise]

Again, women don't appreciate fashion and style tips from men. All F/T M2F have some "aftermarket" work. Unless you're our significant other, fellas, pleaser refrain from the critiques. Women like compliments, not criticism. Thank you. When people insist on inserting their opinions about how how other people should live their lives - especially when those other people are NOT asking for the advice or hurting anyone, and the critics have nothing to show themselves - the self-appointed critics have chosen to tapdance on a slippery slope.especially if theyre not MAN ENOUGH to post a pic, on here anyway 8) you can always tell whos a bottom in here there the guys who always get pissy and start shit cause there lives really really suck so they try and piss others off.and us girls read there crap and laugh like hell cause we know they would be the ones who dream about suckin a dudes cock.

[raybbaby]

Still in awe of my new favorite word. Supermegaultraslut.
*edit: actually it was megaultrasuperslut

[tsmandy]

Plastic surgery chasers are all about the fetishization of the female form, as Jhaniah so expertly pointed out with her rabid series of posts featuring blonde girls with big tits.

It's never about what the girls getting the surgery think would fit in with the general public and male them look "reasonably" feminine. It's about over the top, porn star, rap video, megasuperultraslut looks. Why? Because they weren't born that way. Venus envy, basically.

They're young, fucked in the head and cannot for the life of them see that it's their idealized feminine vision they're chasing. Jhaniah wants to be a big-titted blonde, so that's what she idealizes. She's in love with the idea of being that person and will not, cannot stand any other point of view.

It's the same with any other of the plastic fantastics around, like Kelly or Wendy Williams. Kelly stopped looking like a person years ago. Now she's just a mannequin - odd features, no facial mobility, blech. Wendy looks like a bloated corpse. Too much silicone in a desperate attempt to look feminine.

Here's a protip, girls: Feminine isn't about hips, tits, vagina or anything else except presentation, attitude and demeanor. There are tons of GGs out there with no ass, flat chests, square jaws, big hands, tall, chunky, god knows what kind of body or facial shape. You've got what you've got, and in our case, we have a shitload of Y chromosomes to deal with. All the plastic surgery in the world isn't going to make that go away. You can get cut, carved, injected, molded and whatever else and you'll never get away from the circumstances of birth. No amount of surgery will ever give you what every single GG on the planet was born with. Deal with it.

HOWEVER, what we CAN do as transsexuals is not to hide behind the knife and needle. We can simply say we're transsexual women, just like European women, or tall women, or skinny women. It's just another modifier. Be content with that and live a life free of the demons of having to slice yourself up like a turkey in order to satisfy some twisted inner notion of sex appeal.

Every time one of us gets another procedure done, it's affirming the idea that women are sex object, that we're things for usage and consumption. It's affirming that women are vain, shallow and need others to find them attractive in order to have a purpose.

That's bullshit. Take that money you're wasting on surgery and buy a house, go to school, donate to starving children or build a school in a 3rd world country. Stop being such selfish, disgusting, stupid people and do something better for the world.

You really are a wretched excuse for a human being aren't you? Take the brain cells you've wasted on attacking other women and step in front of a bus already.

[tsHillary]

<3 tsmandy :D

[Tika]

Hey I don't attack everyone, just the ones that need it or ask for it. You two and the plastic addicts, that's about it.

Also Nicole my MOM says I'm cute so blow me. Or will I have to pay the full $50 for that "privilege"? Oh that's right, WHORE joke!

P.S. Seanchai can eat a bag of whale dicks. If I gave a shit what he thought I'd be a sorry human being indeed.

[Nicole Dupre]

Hey I don't attack everyone, just the ones that need it or ask for it. You two and the plastic addicts, that's about it.

Also Nicole my MOM says I'm cute so blow me. Or will I have to pay the full $50 for that "privilege"? Oh that's right, WHORE joke!

P.S. Seanchai can eat a bag of whale dicks. If I gave a shit what he thought I'd be a sorry human being indeed.

You do, and you are, you fugly freak.

And "that's about it"? Who are you bullshitting, dude? I'll copy and paste your dumb post on TGTalk where you put down every high profile TS porn star in the business; Allanah, Vicki, Wendy, etc, etc. You're an ugly malcontent and a hater. So stfu.

[Nicole Dupre]

<3 tsmandy :D Me too.

[Nicole Dupre]

So I've always wondered why certain transwomen, for whatever reason, have these huge-ass egos. Posting pictures of themselves all the time, "Oh my god my boyfriend is so fabulous", "Let's see anyone post pics of themselves without makeup", "The most stunning transsexual in the world", etc.

I mean there's modest pride in one's self and accomplishments, that I can understand. You take a look around, you're doing pretty well for yourself. But this over the top, shameless self-promoting, "fuck all y'all" stuff - what's the reason for that? Is it overcompensating for insecurity? A dominance or assertion tactic, what?


Like, I think I'm reasonably smart. I learn quickly, reason fairly well, did all right at technical aspects of my jobs when they were required, that sort of thing. Am I the SMARTEST PERSON IN THE WORLD?! Well no. There's people that scare me they're so smart. I don't have the moxie to try and pass myself off as the smartest at anything. But this whole "I'm so pretty, I piss glitter" attitude - any thoughts on where that comes from?

]That's the thing that's bothering me. The girls I'm talking about seem to take themselves way too seriously. It seems to me it's just male ego all over again. Instead of bragging about dick size it's bragging about prettiness or pageants or how many parties they've been to, etc.

I don't think they realize that 99.999% of women, honestly and truly, do NOT brag about things. I really think it's male ego showing through the makeup and hair. Why they don't understand this, I have no idea. Lack of self-awareness maybe...


Really it seems to be the younger ones causing all the fuss. They get lucky with a baby face, like Vicki Richter, and think that they're just angels descended to earth.

I have issues with that. Nobody's perfect. There's girls here that think they're just the cat's meow, but come on - Photoshop blurring of photos, a nose that could take up a parking space on its own - get over it. Be realistic.



It's not jealousy and bitterness, it's more annoyance and incredulity. Let's take some specific examples, although this will set off a shitstorm amongst the people named.

Kelly Shore, for one example. The girl looks scary, as far as I'm concerned. She has plastic features that aren't working. Yet she thinks she's God's gift to the world, the guys all fawn over her, and she's basically wandering around in this haze of "Aren't I so very very special?". No, not really, Kelly. Stop posting pictures of yourself. Everyone knows what you look like with your Photoshop filtering applied. Stop going on about your boyfriend, nobody cares. Just try not to be so desperate about wanting attention and sit the hell down.

Jen Justice or whatever the hell her name is. Another case of "I'm too fabulous for words". I mean seriously, that nose needs major clipping back honey, it's enormous. "Oh I posted pics of me without makeup, let's see anyone else here do that." One word: Rhinoplasty.

Wendy Williams. She looks like a corpse pulled out of a river, bloated and puffy. That's a porn star? Please. I have to keep my food down every time a picture of her floats by.

Alannah Starr. Her lips look like a babboon's ass in heat and those sagging, stretch-marked breasts are awful to behold. But hey, "I throw parties all the time and shake my tits, everyone must love me!" How she's that popular is beyond me.

Joanna Jet. AWFUL HAIR. Seriously, it always struck me as ultra-bleached blonde straw. Unflattering, horrible texture, scraggly-looking.

I could go on but it's pointless... I hold no ilusions that I'm stunning or anything close to that. I have a decent smile and nice eyes. That's about it as far as I'm concerned. I get told by others that I'm attractive, but I just think "Meh, thanks, that and a buck gets me a donut."

This topic is not about arrogance over one's appearance in general. It's about being unrealistic about self-assessment, or shamelessly promoting ones self in defiance of common sense. It's about being amazingly popular and/or well-off when there's just no reason for it.

Looks wither. Breasts sag. Tattoos fade. All the silicone pumped into someone's face will eventually run, maybe cause nerve damage and probably require corrective surgery to remove and repair. Looks never discovered the crystalline structure of DNA, or invented the internet. No porn star has ever changed the world, but Beethoven, Einstein, Newton - their works will live on for ages.

How about instead of being obsessed with looks, we pay a little more attention to brains and education? How about instead of blowing $20K or so on facial feminization surgery, spend it on some training courses to get a better job that's NOT porn-related?

You know who I respect here? Ecstatic and Maggie, for being freakishly smart and/or wise. THEY make a difference in the world. Allt he posts *I* make, the attempts at insight or critical analysis, I like to think I'm trying to make a difference as well. Does anyone care? I don't really know. Everyone loves to paint me as angry, bitter, jealous, whatever. Have fun with that, really. People's opinions of me don't pay my bills or put food in my cupboards.

But... if I had big tits, I'd probably get more people to listen to me, I suppose :lol:


Kalina said most of it in her reply, but I'll add this and then I wash my hands of the whole thing:

We have to be more than just appearance and shallowness. Like women breaking into the corporate and working worlds before us, we have to be ten times as smart and ten time as hard working to get half of the recognition we should.

Every one of us that capitalizes on her appearance and looks marginalizes the rest of us. Every TS porn star reinforces the image and perception that we're just sex sluts, that we're no good for anything more than sucking cock or taking it in the butt for cash. Working in the sex trade doesn't take much education or talent - all it takes is a set of fishnets and a couple of open orifices.

I'm guilty of it myself with the webcam stuff I've done. Would I prefer to be paid for my skills in software quality assurance and testing? HELL yes.Would I like to be known for my insights on the world and get paid to lecture or teach? HELL yes.Would I love to go back to school and get a PhD specializing in artificial intelligence research? Hell yes!

However, every single one of the girls that gives up and becomes an escort, a porn star or god knows what else in the sex trade makes MY life that much more difficult. There's already enough negative bias in the world towards us. Why add to it? Why not strive to be more, to go beyond being naked for a living?

Here's a little gem of a life anecdote for you all. I was working at a data entry company and doing okay for myself. Then some asshole decided that they didn't like me and started making up complaints to Human Resources. Net result? Suspended for 3 days while an "investigation" took place, I had to scramble and write a 5-6 page rebuttal to a very nasty set of accusations and I wasn't allowed to use the women's washroom after the whole thing cleared up.

Do you have ANY idea how fucking humiliating that is? I really hope none of you ever get put through that sort of crap. I got NAILED because I was different. I was humiliated and had to explain to all my friends there why I wasn't allowed to go potty with the rest of the kids anymore. Everyone was upset that management would do that to me, but in the end, I pooped alone.

Negative perceptions and attitudes can destroy lives. I want to be able to get a job, go shopping, use a bathroom, just live my frickin' life without having people assume things about me based on the fact that I'm transgendered. I'm educated, reasonably intelligent and I have some pretty solid work experience. Do you really think ANY of that matters for most of the public, who only see us as porn stars, freaks on Springer or Maury Povich or streetwalkers?

[Nicole Dupre]

Right. I wanted to try and disengage from this because I *knew* I'd opened up a can of worms by saying what I said and didn't want to get all covered in shit. God forbid anyone actually speak their mind and not kiss everyone else's ass here, that would be breaking out of groupthink and being an individual - horror of horrors, someone thinking independently and questioning things! Release the hounds.



Hmm, I wasn't aware that my couple of posts a day, if that, was "tons of time". And I also wasn't aware that those couple of posts a day were "attacking sex workers". Silly me, I guess it's impossible to go back and check EVERY SINGLE WORD I'VE EVER POSTED HERE in order to refute your sweepingly general and incorrect statement. I also wasn't aware that this message board was "full of" sex workers. Is that 50% +1, 51%, 60% - or just another "sweeping generalization"? Try not to hand-wave so much when the person you're arguing with has a background in statistics and logic.

Moving on... when a population of individuals is strongly characterized by a single or focused work pattern, such as transsexuals and the sex trade, the COMMON ASSUMPTION based on statistics and perception is that any particular transsexual encountered works in that field. Yes, I deplore the negative connotations about individuals working in the sex trade. I also deplore that the wind blows the crap out of my long hair. There's not a lot that can be done about either one of those problems overnight.

It's like this: Oh look, there's a bunch of people in the water being attacked by sharks. We can either do something about the sharks and change the ecosystem OR we can just say "GET OUT OF THE WATER!". Working to change perceptions about the sex industry is nice and all, yay sweeping societal change. How about we just collectively refuse to take the easy way out? Yes, I'll go on record and say that I think working in the sex industry is the easy way out for making money. Deal with it.

You want solidarity? How about acknowledging that I might have a point and say "You know what? Maybe you're right. Maybe there's more to life than showing my whatevers to people. Maybe I should try to be a positive role model for anyone who encounters me so I can carry myself with pride no matter where I go."

And spare me the whole "I'm proud of being naked for a living" or whatever the smartass comeback is going to be. If that's the entirety of what you're capable of doing, then wow, that's sad, but I guess that's it. If however you have other options open to you, why not take them?

Go ahead and talk to children or little old ladies about what you do. Talk about it to your friends and family. Talk about it to ministers, conservatives, liberals, hippies, gun nuts and everyone else you can think of. I've worked in plenty of fields where I can talk to anyone about what I've done with pride in what I do. Am I saying that sex work is something to be ashamed of? Not necessarily, but it's not going to get as positive a reception as "Oh, I'm an accountant" or "I'm a nurse".



Being a sex worker is selfish. It's not generally seen as positive. There's not a lot of education required. There are health risks, emotional risks and potentially severe consequences throughout one's life. I'm sure that "Professional cocksucker" or "Webcam weenie waggler" looks brilliant on one's resume when seeking alternate employment. Dress it up however you want to. "Internet entrepeneur" or "Personal services provider" perhaps - that sounds good. The sex trade is usually a one-way ticket to a place from which it's very hard to leave. "Let's see, I can make $200 an hour escorting or $7 an hour serving burgers. I wonder which one I should pick to do?".

The "complicated realities and lives" of sex workers seems to be pretty much try not to get busted, get lots of HIV tests and lie to friends and family about what one does.

How about this? If it's such a life-changing experience for you and everyone else, why charge for it? Why not just be a nice person and give it away? If you're going to paint this wonderful life-affirming picture of sex and eroticism, then why involve money? If you want to challenge people's perceptions of eroticism and expand their sexual awareness, write about it. Lecture about it. Paint or sculpt about it. Waving your dick on a website for money is not "challenging perceptions of eroticism". Don't dress up a sheep in a kilt and call it a Scotsman.



Perhaps instead of "being naked for a living" you could use your brainpower to design a telecommunications support infrastructure for Doctors Without Borders, or work for a local homeless shelter. Or maybe go get a job at an old-age facility and create a better, more caring environment for people in their twilight years.

Did it ever occur to you that perhaps some of us, trying to make the world a better place instead of being naked for a living seems like a decent way to live that actually helps society as a whole? I'm sorry, I just think that revering Saint Mandy Of The Perky Boobs and Jutting Erection as a shining figure of positiveness in society is a bit... silly. You'll hopefully forgive my rephrasing your little tirade in a more positive light.



People assume that because I'm outgoing, speak my mind and can actually argue a point with facts and data that I'm a bitch and mean-spirited. Nothing could be further from the truth. Working in the sex trade focuses perception on... wait for it... sex. Genitals. Oh look, we're women but we have PENISES! What the HELL IS THAT?! FREAKS! Wouldn't it be cool if we were known for being freakishly smart and devoted to positive societal change? "You know, say what you want about those trannies, they really work their asses off to make the world a better place."

I don't have "horrendously hateful and misogynistic" views towards sex workers. Please use specific quotes to illustrate your point - oh wait, you can't. Sex workers exist. My girlfriend used to be one. *I* used to be one. There will always be sex workers. It's a fact. I will even go so far as to say that if a person has NO OTHER OPTIONS or they truly feel like that's their calling, then hey - here's a pair of thigh-high boots, size 12. Go to it and work that corner, honey.

However, I'd like to live in a world where I wasn't FORCED to be a sex worker because of goddamn backwards attitudes towards the transgendered perpetuated by the bulk of my transgendered... colleagues? working as sex workers! Is it a rite of passage we're all required to go through? Must we all be demeaned by being willing orifices and waggling hard-ons in order to pass on to more meaningful and rewarding employment? Are we supposed to be defined by how many guys we'll take on in a gang-bang?

I call bullshit on that. The sex trade is easy money. All it takes is an open mouth or a reasonably soft surface to kneel on, and the pay's fairly good. Nobody wants to be the retail worker or the burger flipper. Nobody seems to want to spend years getting a decent education, or coming up with inventions that will change the way X is done. It's selfish and lazy. Oh look, you get someone to take nude pictures of you, then post them on a website that was created as a package and the cash rolls in, so much that you get an accountant to take care of the money. Where, exactly, is the "talent" and "hard work" in that picture?



Oh I don't mind at all if you get pissy, defensive and use sweeping generalizations to make weak-ass attacks on my arguments. It's a hell of a lot easier than dealing with someone like Ecstatic or Maggie who would probably tear me apart or at least provide a serious challenge :lol:

[Nicole Dupre]

The two piles of bullshit above are from "TIKA"

[Nicole Dupre]

TIKA's departure post.


You know I find it kind of sad that you're STILL raving on about this. You and Mandy are two of the nastiest, most vicious bitches I've ever had the misfortune to encounter. I'm sure there's worse out there, but I haven't run into them yet fortunately.

If all you two are good for is sucking cock for a living, that's pretty pathetic. Some of us are educated, intelligent and trying to make a better life for ourselves in the real world, not bondage dungeons and fetish parties.

I've proven to other people that can actually think and not just rave that I'm intelligent, insightful and a good person. Seanchai, you and the other sycophants and ass-kissers can go fuck yourselves. You'll always be looked down on because you make a living in porn. Piss and moan all you want, it won't change how the world looks at you.

I'm a malcontent because I don't want to suck cock for a living? Please. I'm confrontational because I don't automatically subscribe to your warped views? Here's a clue for you: WOMEN have something called empathy. Look into it. WOMEN don't act like crazed attack dogs, frothing at the mouth with hate and anger like you and Mandy.

I'm SO done with this waste of a site. There's no serious discussion going on here, just pseudo-intellectual crap and mutual admiration. I'm far better than this.

[Odelay]

Tika, presumably quoted from Tgirltalk by Nicole:
I'm guilty of it myself with the webcam stuff I've done. Would I prefer to be paid for my skills in software quality assurance and testing? HELL yes.Would I like to be known for my insights on the world and get paid to lecture or teach? HELL yes.Would I love to go back to school and get a PhD specializing in artificial intelligence research? Hell yes!

However, every single one of the girls that gives up and becomes an escort, a porn star or god knows what else in the sex trade makes MY life that much more difficult. There's already enough negative bias in the world towards us. Why add to it? Why not strive to be more, to go beyond being naked for a living?

Victim speak, through and through. It's a little breathtaking that someone who repeatedly refers to her own intelligence would buy into a belief that porn stars keep her down. As someone from hi tech, I find it to be a very egalitarian and meritocratic industry. If you truly have those mad skillz in QA and testing then you can get another job if you work at it.

But my guess is that it's easier to be lazy, point fingers, tell one sided victimhood stories, and achieve some sort of temporary ego high from telling the truth to the masses. Best of luck with that.

[Silcc69]

Plastic surgery chasers are all about the fetishization of the female form, as Jhaniah so expertly pointed out with her rabid series of posts featuring blonde girls with big tits.

It's never about what the girls getting the surgery think would fit in with the general public and male them look "reasonably" feminine. It's about over the top, porn star, rap video, megasuperultraslut looks. Why? Because they weren't born that way. Venus envy, basically.

They're young, fucked in the head and cannot for the life of them see that it's their idealized feminine vision they're chasing. Jhaniah wants to be a big-titted blonde, so that's what she idealizes. She's in love with the idea of being that person and will not, cannot stand any other point of view.

It's the same with any other of the plastic fantastics around, like Kelly or Wendy Williams. Kelly stopped looking like a person years ago. Now she's just a mannequin - odd features, no facial mobility, blech. Wendy looks like a bloated corpse. Too much silicone in a desperate attempt to look feminine.

Here's a protip, girls: Feminine isn't about hips, tits, vagina or anything else except presentation, attitude and demeanor. There are tons of GGs out there with no ass, flat chests, square jaws, big hands, tall, chunky, god knows what kind of body or facial shape. You've got what you've got, and in our case, we have a shitload of Y chromosomes to deal with. All the plastic surgery in the world isn't going to make that go away. You can get cut, carved, injected, molded and whatever else and you'll never get away from the circumstances of birth. No amount of surgery will ever give you what every single GG on the planet was born with. Deal with it.

HOWEVER, what we CAN do as transsexuals is not to hide behind the knife and needle. We can simply say we're transsexual women, just like European women, or tall women, or skinny women. It's just another modifier. Be content with that and live a life free of the demons of having to slice yourself up like a turkey in order to satisfy some twisted inner notion of sex appeal.

Every time one of us gets another procedure done, it's affirming the idea that women are sex object, that we're things for usage and consumption. It's affirming that women are vain, shallow and need others to find them attractive in order to have a purpose.

That's bullshit. Take that money you're wasting on surgery and buy a house, go to school, donate to starving children or build a school in a 3rd world country. Stop being such selfish, disgusting, stupid people and do something better for the world.

They can't blow their own money?

[runamok]

The term you two are looking for is 'trout pout'.

To be fair, I still think she looks cute, the lips are a bit odd, but nobody's perfect. I'd hazard to say that any of us sad fuckers on here who proclaim "oh yeah she's totally hideous, wouldn't hit that with a 10 foot pole" are a bunch of rotten scum-fucking liars.

I call them "Joker Face".

[Nicole Dupre]

TIKA aka Viridian

http://www.myspace.com/shannonaharvey

[Nicole Dupre]

I just want to point out a pattern. If you look at the bottom of this brick's profile, she has "erotic modeling" listed among the many other total BS dreamworlds that she flounders in.

Imo, this is the same phenomenon that Peggy/Maggie has presented here. It's a sketchy story that's main purpose is to quickly gloss over the glaring fact that they do NOT have anything in common with the women they're so quick to judge. So again, I want to point out what I think is another case of jealousy. TIKA is not capable of modeling ANYWHERE, and that's why she has the time to attempt to swim upstream on HA. The same goes for Peggy and Hara. If you're not a sexworker, and you don't respect the profession, why come here and criticize those who are doing what they love?

All three of them have nothing to offer but talk. And in the adult entertainment world talk is cheap, if not meaningless, without a little substance to back it up. Any fool knows that people, who supposedly have better things to do, wouldn't waste a second of their precious time here. This a porn forum, not a PTA meeting. Catch it.

[Dirky]

Again, women don't appreciate fashion and style tips from men. All F/T M2F have some "aftermarket" work. Unless you're our significant other, fellas, pleaser refrain from the critiques. Women like compliments, not criticism. Thank you. When people insist on inserting their opinions about how how other people should live their lives - especially when those other people are NOT asking for the advice or hurting anyone, and the critics have nothing to show themselves - the self-appointed critics have chosen to tapdance on a slippery slope.

Concerning a girl's looks, body and how she chooses to live her life, I come from the school of "If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all". In the long run, it's no business of mine how big a girl wants her boobs to be or how many surgeries she wants to have. It's her life and body, not mine.

It also baffles me why people (both men and other TG's) come to a porn board and criticize that profession. Fact is, most TS's aren't sex workers and do have ordinary lives. This type of a forum isn't for them. The few that are in the sex industry are here for a reason and so are the people who admire them. I wouldn't go to a TS support group (which HA most definitely isn't) and tell them they ought to suck cock for a living.

[Nicole Dupre]

I wouldn't go to a TS support group (which HA most definitely isn't) and tell them they ought to suck cock for a living.

Well, if they're really hot, what's wrong with a little friendly advice. lol ;)

I KEED! :D

[tsmandy]

Nicole you are too much :)

All it took was me gently engaging her from a feminist, sex positive perspective on sex work and she completely unraveled, to the point that she had to be banned from tgirltalk (which has to be the most mild tranny message forum there is).

It makes me sad that people like her think they have a right to speak for lesbian identified trans women, because they give us a really bad name and cause other trans women to despise us. The fact is life is hard for TS, especially those in the sex industry and we need to have each others backs. No time for hateful people.

[Clind]

i made this thread to say just one thing, to be honest i dont give a shit about all this comments that it has nothing to do with this thread, i didn t even want to continue this convertation, untill the moment that i shaw this pic, so i remembered the thread that i made and i m reapating, STOP IT, no need to do all this surgeries, every one looking nice with all the characristics that already has, no need to be all the same.

[tsmandy]

You stop it. Kimber is rad and if you don't like her don't jack off to her otherwise shut the fuck up.

[ronniej]

The look is HOT!

http://i221.photobucket.com/albums/dd175/ghost067/daffy.jpg

NOT! lmao

[Nicole Dupre]

Nicole you are too much :)

All it took was me gently engaging her from a feminist, sex positive perspective on sex work and she completely unraveled, to the point that she had to be banned from tgirltalk (which has to be the most mild tranny message forum there is).

It makes me sad that people like her think they have a right to speak for lesbian identified trans women, because they give us a really bad name and cause other trans women to despise us. The fact is life is hard for TS, especially those in the sex industry and we need to have each others backs. No time for hateful people.

Everyone under the LGBT umbrella has always fought like cats and dogs. Usually, the only thing that unites us is when the breeders start throwing stones from inside their own pervy closets. It's a sad state of affairs but, unfortunately,we all live with it

As anyone who knows me IRL is generally aware of, I'm fairly tolerant; within reason, of course. Therefore, I have no need to patronize any particular group.

People like Viridian are only making things worse for the demographic that they're supposedly going to bat for. The minute she slams the sex industry, it raises the question of why she's so hypersensitive about something she supposed has so little invested in. And all one needs to do is but scratch the surface of her little charade to see it clearly.

Porn is a melting pot of libidinal energy. You are either a consumer or a supplier. Or, you're in the precarious position of being on the outside, looking in. But the people here claim to be here as nothing more than altruistic intellectuals are full of shit.

[AllanahStarrNYC]

So I've always wondered why certain transwomen, for whatever reason, have these huge-ass egos. Posting pictures of themselves all the time, "Oh my god my boyfriend is so fabulous", "Let's see anyone post pics of themselves without makeup", "The most stunning transsexual in the world", etc.

I mean there's modest pride in one's self and accomplishments, that I can understand. You take a look around, you're doing pretty well for yourself. But this over the top, shameless self-promoting, "fuck all y'all" stuff - what's the reason for that? Is it overcompensating for insecurity? A dominance or assertion tactic, what?


Like, I think I'm reasonably smart. I learn quickly, reason fairly well, did all right at technical aspects of my jobs when they were required, that sort of thing. Am I the SMARTEST PERSON IN THE WORLD?! Well no. There's people that scare me they're so smart. I don't have the moxie to try and pass myself off as the smartest at anything. But this whole "I'm so pretty, I piss glitter" attitude - any thoughts on where that comes from?

]That's the thing that's bothering me. The girls I'm talking about seem to take themselves way too seriously. It seems to me it's just male ego all over again. Instead of bragging about dick size it's bragging about prettiness or pageants or how many parties they've been to, etc.

I don't think they realize that 99.999% of women, honestly and truly, do NOT brag about things. I really think it's male ego showing through the makeup and hair. Why they don't understand this, I have no idea. Lack of self-awareness maybe...


Really it seems to be the younger ones causing all the fuss. They get lucky with a baby face, like Vicki Richter, and think that they're just angels descended to earth.

I have issues with that. Nobody's perfect. There's girls here that think they're just the cat's meow, but come on - Photoshop blurring of photos, a nose that could take up a parking space on its own - get over it. Be realistic.



It's not jealousy and bitterness, it's more annoyance and incredulity. Let's take some specific examples, although this will set off a shitstorm amongst the people named.

Kelly Shore, for one example. The girl looks scary, as far as I'm concerned. She has plastic features that aren't working. Yet she thinks she's God's gift to the world, the guys all fawn over her, and she's basically wandering around in this haze of "Aren't I so very very special?". No, not really, Kelly. Stop posting pictures of yourself. Everyone knows what you look like with your Photoshop filtering applied. Stop going on about your boyfriend, nobody cares. Just try not to be so desperate about wanting attention and sit the hell down.

Jen Justice or whatever the hell her name is. Another case of "I'm too fabulous for words". I mean seriously, that nose needs major clipping back honey, it's enormous. "Oh I posted pics of me without makeup, let's see anyone else here do that." One word: Rhinoplasty.

Wendy Williams. She looks like a corpse pulled out of a river, bloated and puffy. That's a porn star? Please. I have to keep my food down every time a picture of her floats by.

Alannah Starr. Her lips look like a babboon's ass in heat and those sagging, stretch-marked breasts are awful to behold. But hey, "I throw parties all the time and shake my tits, everyone must love me!" How she's that popular is beyond me.

Joanna Jet. AWFUL HAIR. Seriously, it always struck me as ultra-bleached blonde straw. Unflattering, horrible texture, scraggly-looking.

I could go on but it's pointless... I hold no ilusions that I'm stunning or anything close to that. I have a decent smile and nice eyes. That's about it as far as I'm concerned. I get told by others that I'm attractive, but I just think "Meh, thanks, that and a buck gets me a donut."

This topic is not about arrogance over one's appearance in general. It's about being unrealistic about self-assessment, or shamelessly promoting ones self in defiance of common sense. It's about being amazingly popular and/or well-off when there's just no reason for it.

Looks wither. Breasts sag. Tattoos fade. All the silicone pumped into someone's face will eventually run, maybe cause nerve damage and probably require corrective surgery to remove and repair. Looks never discovered the crystalline structure of DNA, or invented the internet. No porn star has ever changed the world, but Beethoven, Einstein, Newton - their works will live on for ages.

How about instead of being obsessed with looks, we pay a little more attention to brains and education? How about instead of blowing $20K or so on facial feminization surgery, spend it on some training courses to get a better job that's NOT porn-related?

You know who I respect here? Ecstatic and Maggie, for being freakishly smart and/or wise. THEY make a difference in the world. Allt he posts *I* make, the attempts at insight or critical analysis, I like to think I'm trying to make a difference as well. Does anyone care? I don't really know. Everyone loves to paint me as angry, bitter, jealous, whatever. Have fun with that, really. People's opinions of me don't pay my bills or put food in my cupboards.

But... if I had big tits, I'd probably get more people to listen to me, I suppose :lol:


Kalina said most of it in her reply, but I'll add this and then I wash my hands of the whole thing:

We have to be more than just appearance and shallowness. Like women breaking into the corporate and working worlds before us, we have to be ten times as smart and ten time as hard working to get half of the recognition we should.

Every one of us that capitalizes on her appearance and looks marginalizes the rest of us. Every TS porn star reinforces the image and perception that we're just sex sluts, that we're no good for anything more than sucking cock or taking it in the butt for cash. Working in the sex trade doesn't take much education or talent - all it takes is a set of fishnets and a couple of open orifices.

I'm guilty of it myself with the webcam stuff I've done. Would I prefer to be paid for my skills in software quality assurance and testing? HELL yes.Would I like to be known for my insights on the world and get paid to lecture or teach? HELL yes.Would I love to go back to school and get a PhD specializing in artificial intelligence research? Hell yes!

However, every single one of the girls that gives up and becomes an escort, a porn star or god knows what else in the sex trade makes MY life that much more difficult. There's already enough negative bias in the world towards us. Why add to it? Why not strive to be more, to go beyond being naked for a living?

Here's a little gem of a life anecdote for you all. I was working at a data entry company and doing okay for myself. Then some asshole decided that they didn't like me and started making up complaints to Human Resources. Net result? Suspended for 3 days while an "investigation" took place, I had to scramble and write a 5-6 page rebuttal to a very nasty set of accusations and I wasn't allowed to use the women's washroom after the whole thing cleared up.

Do you have ANY idea how fucking humiliating that is? I really hope none of you ever get put through that sort of crap. I got NAILED because I was different. I was humiliated and had to explain to all my friends there why I wasn't allowed to go potty with the rest of the kids anymore. Everyone was upset that management would do that to me, but in the end, I pooped alone.

Negative perceptions and attitudes can destroy lives. I want to be able to get a job, go shopping, use a bathroom, just live my frickin' life without having people assume things about me based on the fact that I'm transgendered. I'm educated, reasonably intelligent and I have some pretty solid work experience. Do you really think ANY of that matters for most of the public, who only see us as porn stars, freaks on Springer or Maury Povich or streetwalkers?

Bitter party of ONE.

It's amazing how unhappy some people are.

[Nicole Dupre]

Bitter party of ONE.

It's amazing how unhappy some people are.

And we have a lovely table for her...

... facing the wall in a dark corner. One rat poison cocktail, coming up. lol

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

The same goes for Peggy and Hara. If you're not a sexworker, and you don't respect the profession, why come here and criticize those who are doing what they love?



Again, Don't put words in my mouth and get it all twisted, fool! You ATTACKED and ridiculed me 1st, for what I do..and I simply returned the favor! That does NOT imply I was attacking the rest (just YOU). And IF some took it personally, then that is THEIR problem not mine. You cannot expect to lash out at someone, and not take some lashing back! Besides, who made you poster boy/spokesMAN for all escorts/porn workers?

For someone who sent me a pm saying:


I don't need you going on like a loon about how lame escorting must be. <snip>
GO AWAY!!! AND STAY AWAY!!! FAR AWAY!!!

You're NOT doing a good job, wanting to be left alone.
So why don't you stop acting like a LOON and take your own advice, you DENSE Klown!

Happy Thanksgiving to you too!

~Kisses.

HTG

[Nicole Dupre]

Oh, shut up, you monkey-faced retard. I wasn't even talking to you. What? Are you a taboo subject for me now too, even if I don't talk to you? Well fuck that, and fuck you. I spoke for myself. Sorry yoiu can't hook and survive, but it's not my goddamn problem. If you could, you wouldn't be lurking around here like a dog waiting for table scraps. Dogs are supposed to leave the room when the humans eat their meal. Someone ought to smack you in that mile-wide nose with a newspaper, or put a muzzle on your big hiddy face.

You talked nonsense about how the you became a nurses aid because escorting wasn't a decent enough job, you manly freak. So why can't I mention it without you throwing around male pronouns like an angry gay boy? I mean, why did you even bother saying it if you weren't proud? Should we assume that the grass is no greener at your new job? Obviously you can't compete with most of of the non-implant trannys who escort. You're hideous, and you dress like a rag-picker. You're only here for false validation, you flatchested loser, and you know it. How sad that your life is obviously hinged on my every word.

Now go take your estrogen and stfu, Jackie. Everyone hates you, except for a handful of weirdos. In fact, we still don't know wtf you're doing here, but you're not studying for a real nursing degree. That's obvious.

Can somebody with a ShemaleYum subscription go find those hideous pics of "Geisha" and post them here, and put this fugly ragamuffin out of her misery? Let me tell you, they are NOT pretty.

[lisaparadise]

Oh, shut up, you monkey-faced retard. I wasn't even talking to you. What? Are you a taboo subject for me now too, even if I don't talk to you? Well fuck that, and fuck you. I spoke for myself. Sorry yoiu can't hook and survive, but it's not my goddamn problem. If you could, you wouldn't be lurking around here like a dog waiting for table scraps. Dogs are supposed to leave the room when the humans eat their meal. Someone ought to smack you in that mile-wide nose with a newspaper, or put a muzzle on your big hiddy face.

You talked nonsense about how the you became a nurses aid because escorting wasn't a decent enough job, you manly freak. So why can't I mention it without you throwing around male pronouns like an angry gay boy? I mean, why did you even bother saying it if you weren't proud? Should we assume that the grass is no greener at your new job? Obviously you can't compete with most of of the non-implant trannys who escort. You're hideous, and you dress like a rag-picker. You're only here for false validation, you flatchested loser, and you know it. How sad that your life is obviously hinged on my every word.

Now go take your estrogen and stfu, Jackie. Everyone hates you, except for a handful of weirdos. In fact, we still don't know wtf you're doing here, but you're not studying for a real nursing degree. That's obvious.

Can somebody with a ShemaleYum subscription go find those hideous pics of "Geisha" and post them here, and put this fugly ragamuffin out of her misery? Let me tell you, they are NOT pretty. i dont wanna get involved in this one but hell i gotta ask WHAT THE FRIG IS A RAGPICKER? ROFLMFAO

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

Oh, shut up, you monkey-faced retard.

Wow. And who is a horse face to talk? lol


I wasn't even talking to you. What? Are you a taboo subject for me now too, even if I don't talk to you? Well fuck that, and fuck you. I spoke for myself.

Like I said, IF you don't want to hear from me, then have the same courtesy NOT to mention me, Brutus! rofl


Sorry yoiu can't hook and survive, but it's not my goddamn problem. If you could, you wouldn't be lurking around here like a dog waiting for table scraps. Dogs are supposed to leave the room when the humans eat their meal. Someone ought to smack you in that mile-wide nose with a newspaper, or put a muzzle on your big hiddy face.

Can't hook? Dahlin' I got out of it because I didn't like it. Additionally, I got out of it before I even hit your ancient age (which would be lots of years from now). lol Why are you so upset with? That you were just getting in the life of the opposite sex? Cos, everyone here knows, you were a confused gay man 3 years ago who jerks off to tranny porn, you rhino faced klown! Lmao


You talked nonsense about how the you became a nurses aid because escorting wasn't a decent enough job, you manly freak. So why can't I mention it without you throwing around male pronouns like an angry gay boy? I mean, why did you even bother saying it if you weren't proud?

That's your interpretation. You're free to do so. And speaking of throwing aroung male pronouns..you got a lot of nerve to tell me this quite a lot yourself. So stop with the double standards.


Should we assume that the grass is no greener at your new job? Obviously you can't compete with most of of the non-implant trannys who escort. You're hideous, and you dress like a rag-picker. You're only here for false validation, you flatchested loser, and you know it. How sad that your life is obviously hinged on my every word.

You can assume whatever you want..live in your own fairytale world. But that's not going to be reality. Hideous? Do you own mirrors from the fun house? Smdh Lmao


Now go take your estrogen and stfu, Jackie. Everyone hates you, except for a handful of weirdos. In fact, we still don't know wtf you're doing here, but you're not studying for a real nursing degree. That's obvious.

YOU shut the fuck up! A lot of people are TIRED of your psycho-babblings! You got no business asking me why I am here. Did NYCe appointed you as the new HA bouncer? You might look the part, but then again, until you own HA shut the fuck up !


Can somebody with a ShemaleYum subscription go find those hideous pics of "Geisha" and post them here, and put this fugly ragamuffin out of her misery? Let me tell you, they are NOT pretty.

All I know is that, It's prettier and much better than your 2006 shoot..so why don't you just shoot yourself with some horse transquilizer? You'd be doing a lot of people a good deed!

~Kisses.

HTG

[Nicole Dupre]

Oh, shut up, you monkey-faced retard. I wasn't even talking to you. What? Are you a taboo subject for me now too, even if I don't talk to you? Well fuck that, and fuck you. I spoke for myself. Sorry yoiu can't hook and survive, but it's not my goddamn problem. If you could, you wouldn't be lurking around here like a dog waiting for table scraps. Dogs are supposed to leave the room when the humans eat their meal. Someone ought to smack you in that mile-wide nose with a newspaper, or put a muzzle on your big hiddy face.

You talked nonsense about how the you became a nurses aid because escorting wasn't a decent enough job, you manly freak. So why can't I mention it without you throwing around male pronouns like an angry gay boy? I mean, why did you even bother saying it if you weren't proud? Should we assume that the grass is no greener at your new job? Obviously you can't compete with most of of the non-implant trannys who escort. You're hideous, and you dress like a rag-picker. You're only here for false validation, you flatchested loser, and you know it. How sad that your life is obviously hinged on my every word.

Now go take your estrogen and stfu, Jackie. Everyone hates you, except for a handful of weirdos. In fact, we still don't know wtf you're doing here, but you're not studying for a real nursing degree. That's obvious.

Can somebody with a ShemaleYum subscription go find those hideous pics of "Geisha" and post them here, and put this fugly ragamuffin out of her misery? Let me tell you, they are NOT pretty. i dont wanna get involved in this one but hell i gotta ask WHAT THE FRIG IS A RAGPICKER? ROFLMFAO

LOL It's a very NYC/NJ term. It means you dress in old, cheap shit.

[Nicole Dupre]

Oh, shut up, you monkey-faced retard.

Wow. And who is a horse face to talk? lol


I wasn't even talking to you. What? Are you a taboo subject for me now too, even if I don't talk to you? Well fuck that, and fuck you. I spoke for myself.

Like I said, IF you don't want to hear from me, then have the same courtesy NOT to mention me, Brutus! rofl


Sorry yoiu can't hook and survive, but it's not my goddamn problem. If you could, you wouldn't be lurking around here like a dog waiting for table scraps. Dogs are supposed to leave the room when the humans eat their meal. Someone ought to smack you in that mile-wide nose with a newspaper, or put a muzzle on your big hiddy face.

Can't hook? Dahlin' I got out of it because I didn't like it. Additionally, I got out of it before I even hit your ancient age (which would be lots of years from now). lol Why are you so upset with? That you were just getting in the life of the opposite sex? Cos, everyone here knows, you were a confused gay man 3 years ago who jerks off to tranny porn, you rhino faced klown! Lmao


You talked nonsense about how the you became a nurses aid because escorting wasn't a decent enough job, you manly freak. So why can't I mention it without you throwing around male pronouns like an angry gay boy? I mean, why did you even bother saying it if you weren't proud?

That's your interpretation. You're free to do so. And speaking of throwing aroung male pronouns..you got a lot of nerve to tell me this quite a lot yourself. So stop with the double standards.


Should we assume that the grass is no greener at your new job? Obviously you can't compete with most of of the non-implant trannys who escort. You're hideous, and you dress like a rag-picker. You're only here for false validation, you flatchested loser, and you know it. How sad that your life is obviously hinged on my every word.

You can assume whatever you want..live in your own fairytale world. But that's not going to be reality. Hideous? Do you own mirrors from the fun house? Smdh Lmao


Now go take your estrogen and stfu, Jackie. Everyone hates you, except for a handful of weirdos. In fact, we still don't know wtf you're doing here, but you're not studying for a real nursing degree. That's obvious.

YOU shut the fuck up! A lot of people are TIRED of your psycho-babblings! You got no business asking me why I am here. Did NYCe appointed you as the new HA bouncer? You might look the part, but then again, until you own HA shut the fuck up !


Can somebody with a ShemaleYum subscription go find those hideous pics of "Geisha" and post them here, and put this fugly ragamuffin out of her misery? Let me tell you, they are NOT pretty.

All I know is that, It's prettier and much better than your 2006 shoot..so why don't you just shoot yourself with some horse transquilizer? You'd be doing a lot of people a good deed!

~Kisses.

HTG

NYCe didn't ask me to tell you off, but I do know that you are not well liked here. It's been that way for a while, even before our falling out. Every girl here gives you the cold shoulder, and that's why you hate on them all. But me, you fucked over, so I have animosity towards you. But hey, who's fucking fault is that?

Now, as far as what you said about escorting, wtf do you want me to do about it? You said it, not me. You know damn well it was shady, so why lie about it? And what about that "untrue" TS" nonsense. You have some fucking nerve, when you were not even on hormones, casting shade on Bella. You're hardly one to judge. Wtf is taking you so long to get somewhere with your transition anyway? Too busy being a shady two face, and making up dumb lies? Wtf?

And if anyone looks like a bouncer, it's you. I don't usually judge people on looks, but it I guess it explains why you're so damn shady. You're just bitter. I mean, c'mon. No one says, "Hey. This escort thing is too difficult and boring. I think I want to babysit old people instead." Do you really expect us to believe that?

Anyway, you started with the racial slurs, the male pronouns, the failed attempts at posting my birth name, digging up old pics, making up shit about what I said and putting it in quotes around them, etc. You've asked for trouble. You know EXACTLY why we are no longer on good terms, so just deal with it. I don't want to talk to you, but I will not change my opinion about you. Sorry. And God only knows why you hate Jenn. Well, actually I do know. You said that she gets too much attention here.

[Nicole Dupre]

Oh, btw, I started seeing a shrink 7 years ago, knowing that I was going to start hormones 5 years ago. It's all documented at Callen-Lorde. I was diagnosed as a primary TS, and was also told that there are good indications that I was born intersexed. I've passed since I was in my teens. And I am barely into TS porn. I like straight porn best, as a matter of fact, and always have. I never even topped a guy until 4 years ago.

And you shouldn't say you were born 40 yrs ago on your profiles and expect me to believe you weren't. You've told so many fucking lies, I'd put NOTHING past you. Regardless, you look at least 40 or older, so why hate?

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

Oh, shut up, you monkey-faced retard.

Wow. And who is a horse face to talk? lol


I wasn't even talking to you. What? Are you a taboo subject for me now too, even if I don't talk to you? Well fuck that, and fuck you. I spoke for myself.

Like I said, IF you don't want to hear from me, then have the same courtesy NOT to mention me, Brutus! rofl


Sorry yoiu can't hook and survive, but it's not my goddamn problem. If you could, you wouldn't be lurking around here like a dog waiting for table scraps. Dogs are supposed to leave the room when the humans eat their meal. Someone ought to smack you in that mile-wide nose with a newspaper, or put a muzzle on your big hiddy face.

Can't hook? Dahlin' I got out of it because I didn't like it. Additionally, I got out of it before I even hit your ancient age (which would be lots of years from now). lol Why are you so upset with? That you were just getting in the life of the opposite sex? Cos, everyone here knows, you were a confused gay man 3 years ago who jerks off to tranny porn, you rhino faced klown! Lmao


You talked nonsense about how the you became a nurses aid because escorting wasn't a decent enough job, you manly freak. So why can't I mention it without you throwing around male pronouns like an angry gay boy? I mean, why did you even bother saying it if you weren't proud?

That's your interpretation. You're free to do so. And speaking of throwing aroung male pronouns..you got a lot of nerve to tell me this quite a lot yourself. So stop with the double standards.


Should we assume that the grass is no greener at your new job? Obviously you can't compete with most of of the non-implant trannys who escort. You're hideous, and you dress like a rag-picker. You're only here for false validation, you flatchested loser, and you know it. How sad that your life is obviously hinged on my every word.

You can assume whatever you want..live in your own fairytale world. But that's not going to be reality. Hideous? Do you own mirrors from the fun house? Smdh Lmao


Now go take your estrogen and stfu, Jackie. Everyone hates you, except for a handful of weirdos. In fact, we still don't know wtf you're doing here, but you're not studying for a real nursing degree. That's obvious.

YOU shut the fuck up! A lot of people are TIRED of your psycho-babblings! You got no business asking me why I am here. Did NYCe appointed you as the new HA bouncer? You might look the part, but then again, until you own HA shut the fuck up !


Can somebody with a ShemaleYum subscription go find those hideous pics of "Geisha" and post them here, and put this fugly ragamuffin out of her misery? Let me tell you, they are NOT pretty.

All I know is that, It's prettier and much better than your 2006 shoot..so why don't you just shoot yourself with some horse transquilizer? You'd be doing a lot of people a good deed!

~Kisses.

HTG

NYCe didn't ask me to tell you off, but I do know that you are not well liked here. It's been that way for a while, even before our falling out. Every girl here gives you the cold shoulder, and that's why you hate on them all. But me, you fucked over, so I have animosity towards you. But hey, who's fucking fault is that?

Now, as far as what you said about escorting, wtf do you want me to do about it? You said it, not me. You know damn well it was shady, so why lie about it? And what about that "untrue" TS" nonsense. You have some fucking nerve, when you were not even on hormones, casting shade on Bella. You're hardly one to judge. Wtf is taking you so long to get somewhere with your transition anyway? Too busy being a shady two face, and making up dumb lies? Wtf?

And if anyone looks like a bouncer, it's you. I don't usually judge people on looks, but it I guess it explains why you're so damn shady. You're just bitter. I mean, c'mon. No one says, "Hey. This escort thing is too difficult and boring. I think I want to babysit old people instead." Do you really expect us to believe that?

Anyway, you started with the racial slurs, the male pronouns, the failed attempts at posting my birth name, digging up old pics, making up shit about what I said and putting it in quotes around them, etc. You've asked for trouble. You know EXACTLY why we are no longer on good terms, so just deal with it. I don't want to talk to you, but I will not change my opinion about you. Sorry. And God only knows why you hate Jenn. Well, actually I do know. You said that she gets too much attention here.

1. I really couldn't give a rat's ass IF the girls don't like me. I'm not into girls or tgirls for that matter. So it doesn't make any difference to me whatsoever!

2. Look, you were the first to cast shade by making fun of what I do. Don't act as if you're Ms. Congeniality cos you're certainly FAR from being a nice person! You know exactly what you're doing when you said it..So STFU! You're guilty of starting the flame war, not I!

And don't get me started on hormones (I've taken them since I was 14), while you've taken NONE for 39 years of your gay life, don't act as if your shit don't stink and act holier than though, cos if you hate shade - you're doing it too.

3. Again, calling me shady coming from a Shady person that you are is just pure laughable. But why would I be surprised? You twist and turn every word people say and make your own fictitious version/story around it.

4. The shady person who got mad for gossiping about Jen Justice is YOU! You we're shady for trying to broadcast Leora's business on HD, you were the one who was gossiping about Vicki Ritcher having erectile dysfunction and that she was sleeping with heavenlysin, you were shady for trying to out my male name (which was wrong btw) and screams desperation. You're the one who started the flame war between us (when this could have been sorted out off the board), You're the one guilty of name calling and male pronoun 1st. And contrary to your delusions, I didn't make things up. I simply said what YOU told me about a lot of the girls on here who does porn and escort, you compulsive lying sack of shit!

Soo..Whats the matter? You can dish it, but you can't take a dose of your own venom? Suck my dick!

~Kisses.

HTG

[Nicole Dupre]

Vicki and Emily are friends. So what? And Vicki is on hormones. But again, so what? Lot's of us are. I stop every now and then myself. Vicki's even said on her own forum that she sometimes has to work harder at getting a stiffy. I guess a guy like you has no issues with it. Well, good for you, mister. You act like everything is a major chunk of juicy gossip. Well, maybe to you it is, because you're so disliked.

Now I will repeat what I am willing to discuss about Leora Moore. You told me a very unflattering story about her, concerning what a high profile guy shared with you about his experience with her. And you saw the same thing hinted at on HD ion the anon section? Well neither my name, nor the high profile dude's name, is anywhere on that thread. It was someone talking smack about Leora. Someone also said she lived in J.P's closet as well. Concerning both, I don't know or care if either are true. Why would I? lol

However, that gentleman now knows that you broke that trust. Not me. You. Trying to drag me into it because I don't think very highly of Leora is retarded. Leora said something shady to me on MySpace a loooong time ago. So what? I'm not denying it, and I don't give a shit what Leora thinks about it. In fact, I'll clear that up right now...

Leora, honey, I think you're shady. I helped you with laser info, and you later behaved like a stuck up cunt.

Ok. Air cleared. Now why did you tell me about the unflattering experience this dude had? He asked you not to, didn't he? What am I now? A fucking mindreader? I didn't ask you to blab it. Wtf do I have to do with it? I didn't ask. My mind's made up about Leora already. I don't need your late info.

But when a certain asshole called me, and I confided that he shook me up, I did indeed ask you to not blab because Jenn was, at least at that point, somewhat of a friend. But what did you do? You ignored my request because your hatred of Jenn was bigger than my misplaced trust in you. And you DID call me that day. I don't give a fuck how you remember it or want to re-tell it. I remember answering the phone when you called me, because I used your incoming call as an excuse to get off the line with the creep in question. Well, thanks so much for taking my distraught moment and using it as ammo in your petty agenda, you piece of shit. For that, I'd like to walk up to you and put you on full blast right in person. I won't hit you, because I don't need the hassles. But I'd love for you to pull some shit with me, so could beat your Jackie Chan-looking ass. However, if God grants me that gift, I will most definitely put you on full blast, verbally. I will call you a man and a crossdresser, and dis you for all to see and hear wherever fate might place us together.

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

Vicki and Emily are friends. So what? And Vicki is on hormones. But again, so what? Lot's of us are.

So? What business is it of you to tell me that if you weren't trying to gossip? I've spoken to Vicki awhile back ,I'm not even friends with both of them so what was the point of spilling their business with me?


I stop every now and then myself. Vicki's even said on her own forum that she sometimes has to work harder at getting a stiffy. I guess a guy like you has no issues with it. Well, good for you, mister.

Well so am i!


You act like everything is a major chunk of juicy gossip. Well, maybe to you it is, because you're so disliked.

I actually don't care. :roll:


Now I will repeat what I am willing to discuss about Leora Moore. You told me a very unflattering story about her, concerning what a high profile guy shared with you about his experience with her.

Willing to discuss? or was that willing to OUT this "high profile" guy you speak of? ;)


You saew the same thing hinted at on HD ion the anon section. Yet neither my name, nor the high profile dude's name, is anywhere on that thread. It was someone talking smack about Leora. someone said whe lived in J.P's closet a well.

Wasn't that YOU? lol


Ok. Air cleared. Now why did you tell me about the unflattering experience this dude had? He asked you not to, didn't he? What am I now? A fucking mindreader? I didn't ask you to blab it. Wtf do I have to do with it? I didn't ask. My mind's made up about Leora already. I don't need your late info.

Likewise! Am I a fucking mind reader about you meeting Jen Justice military ex bf? No, I'm not psychic. You blab it to me..I'm sure I'm not the only one you blabbed it to. And if you were indeed somewhat a "friend" to Jen, you wouldn't do such a thing. I was never friends with Leora but I was with you..so there's a difference.


I'd like to walk up to you and put you on full blast right in person. I won't hit you, because I don't need the hassles. But I'd love for you to pull some shit with me, so could beat your Jackie Chan-looking ass. However, if God grants me that gift, I will most definitely put you on full blast, verbally. I will call you a man and a crossdresser, and dis you for all to see and hear wherever fate might place us together.

Wishful thinking. You're really begining to sound like a psycho to me. Lemme ask you, does it give off a warm feeling inside to picture yourself putting me on blast, to get back at me for being found out - you being two faced?

~Kisses.

HTG

[Nicole Dupre]

Vicki and Emily are friends. So what? And Vicki is on hormones. But again, so what? Lot's of us are.

So? What business is it of you to tell me that if you weren't trying to gossip? I've spoken to Vicki awhile back ,I'm not even friends with both of them so what was the point of spilling their business with me?


I stop every now and then myself. Vicki's even said on her own forum that she sometimes has to work harder at getting a stiffy. I guess a guy like you has no issues with it. Well, good for you, mister.

Well so am i!


You act like everything is a major chunk of juicy gossip. Well, maybe to you it is, because you're so disliked.

I actually don't care. :roll:


Now I will repeat what I am willing to discuss about Leora Moore. You told me a very unflattering story about her, concerning what a high profile guy shared with you about his experience with her.

Willing to discuss? or was that willing to OUT this "high profile" guy you speak of? ;)


You saew the same thing hinted at on HD ion the anon section. Yet neither my name, nor the high profile dude's name, is anywhere on that thread. It was someone talking smack about Leora. someone said whe lived in J.P's closet a well.

Wasn't that YOU? lol


Ok. Air cleared. Now why did you tell me about the unflattering experience this dude had? He asked you not to, didn't he? What am I now? A fucking mindreader? I didn't ask you to blab it. Wtf do I have to do with it? I didn't ask. My mind's made up about Leora already. I don't need your late info.

Likewise! Am I a fucking mind reader about you meeting Jen Justice military ex bf? No, I'm not psychic. You blab it to me..I'm sure I'm not the only one you blabbed it to. And if you were indeed somewhat a "friend" to Jen, you wouldn't do such a thing. I was never friends with Leora but I was with you..so there's a difference.


I'd like to walk up to you and put you on full blast right in person. I won't hit you, because I don't need the hassles. But I'd love for you to pull some shit with me, so could beat your Jackie Chan-looking ass. However, if God grants me that gift, I will most definitely put you on full blast, verbally. I will call you a man and a crossdresser, and dis you for all to see and hear wherever fate might place us together.

Wishful thinking. You're really begining to sound like a psycho to me. Lemme ask you, does it give off a warm feeling inside to picture yourself putting me on blast, to get back at me for being found out - you being two faced?

~Kisses.

HTG

Wow. You really like flaunting what a nasty piece of shit you are with the Leora thing, towards that dude, huh? If I was that gentlemen, I'd snatch that hideous wig off your Buddha head myself.

But I believe in karma, you manly motherfucker, and payback will be a bitch. And you are a man to the core. You look like a man, and have the ego of a man. That pic was the tip of the iceberg. So enjoy yourself, you bearded brick. Rub your chins and wait.

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

Flaunting? Wrong! If anything, YOU were the one trying so hard and devising plans for me to OUT that gentleman you speak of! So he gets MAD at me and you get your revenge. Sadly, I'm NOT falling for any of your traps, you cheap RiteAid synthetic poney wearing ass.

I believe in Karma too, so why don't we just let nature takes its course..wait and see who karma gets 1st?!? Deal? ;)

~Kisses.

HTG

[Nicole Dupre]

Flaunting? Wrong! If anything, YOU were the one trying so hard and devising plans for me to OUT that gentleman you speak of! So he gets MAD at me and you get your revenge. Sadly, I'm NOT falling for any of your traps, you cheap RiteAid synthetic poney wearing ass.

I believe in Karma too, so why don't we just let nature takes its course..wait and see who karma gets 1st?!? Deal? ;)

~Kisses.

HTGPlease, Jackie Chins. Do you honestly need to have the last stupid word everywhere you go? YOU RATTED THE GUY OUT! HE SHOULD PUNCH YOUR BIG MANNISH FACE IN!!! Do you think he needs me to tell him what to think of you, dummy? Do you think everyone will tell you when you've been chopped? He can see how poorly you'd take it right here. You're more than done on HA and you refuse to leave quietly. Instead, you're sitting in some dark room, waiting for an old man to shit in his diaper or for me to mention your dumb name in a thread so you have something to do with your miserable life. Uggghhh. You're the forum train wreck. You head is shaped like a big ugly thumb. Why don't you get a second job to buy a neckiotomy or something?

Regardless, you have the mark of the untrustworthy loser forever and ever. If I were you I'd try to make something out of that social misfit forum of yours, because your fake name is mud around here. No one will ever take you seriously. You'd better stick to Jennifer, the thick-necked scarf wearer if you want a M2F friend, you dumb prick.

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

I ratted the guy out? If I remembered correctly, It was YOU who carried a vendetta against Leora. You were the one who posted about it publicly on HD (Not me)! And if there's anyone that needs to be chopped from any connections to the industry (you try so hard to belong), It's a two faced a-hole like you! You kiss the girls ass so you get work, but when they turned ther backs you stab them! lol ;)

I guess, its the true nature of the beast!

~Kisses.

HTG

[phobun]

Bitter party of ONE.

It's amazing how unhappy some people are.

And we have a lovely table for her...

... facing the wall in a dark corner. One rat poison cocktail, coming up. lol
Joking about murdering someone with rat poison is over the line and not funny, especially when you're stalkingly posting personal information from her myspace. That is wrong, just like this post which reeked of plans for violence (http://www.hungangels.com/board/viewtopic.php?p=783499&highlight=transvestite+scum#783499). Perhaps you should seek psychological help.

[Nicole Dupre]

Bitter party of ONE.

It's amazing how unhappy some people are.

And we have a lovely table for her...

... facing the wall in a dark corner. One rat poison cocktail, coming up. lol
Joking about murdering someone with rat poison is over the line and not funny, especially when you're stalkingly posting personal information from her myspace. That is wrong, just like this post which reeked of plans for violence (http://www.hungangels.com/board/viewtopic.php?p=783499&highlight=transvestite+scum#783499). Perhaps you should seek psychological help.

Look which woman needed to chime in. :roll: You really are a girl at heart.

Please. I wouldn't waste a precious second on physically hurting that wretched scumbag, you dickless queer. He has bigger problems. I believe in karma.

But maybe someone should call the cops. ;) lol

[MRSJHANIAHLOVE]

nicole looks pretty NOW... thats all that matters!

[Nicole Dupre]

Joking about murdering someone with rat poison is over the line and not funny, especially when you're stalkingly posting personal information from her myspace. That is wrong, just like this post which reeked of plans for violence (http://www.hungangels.com/board/viewtopic.php?p=783499&highlight=transvestite+scum#783499). Perhaps you should seek psychological help.By the way, where were you with the morality when keepingitreal470 was threatening me, you big dick-in-the-ass faggot? Someone ought to kick your fucking ass, you pussy.

[indeed]

nicole looks pretty NOW... thats all that matters!
you look pretty. Nicole is attractive, but not pretty

[phobun]

Joking about murdering someone with rat poison is over the line and not funny, especially when you're stalkingly posting personal information from her myspace. That is wrong, just like this post which reeked of plans for violence (http://www.hungangels.com/board/viewtopic.php?p=783499&highlight=transvestite+scum#783499). Perhaps you should seek psychological help.By the way, where were you with the morality when keepingitreal470 was threatening me, you big dick-in-the-ass faggot? Someone ought to kick your fucking ass, you pussy.
You wait 2 days to say this, after you had already responded to my post???

I think you're in need of psychological help, and I try to avoid your posts and your drama.

[Nicole Dupre]

nicole looks pretty NOW... thats all that matters!
you look pretty. Nicole is attractive, but not pretty

lol Ok. Now it's a beauty contest. was your mom very pretty? Just curious. We'd love to see her. lol You know. Since we're comparing and all. lol

[Nicole Dupre]

Joking about murdering someone with rat poison is over the line and not funny, especially when you're stalkingly posting personal information from her myspace. That is wrong, just like this post which reeked of plans for violence (http://www.hungangels.com/board/viewtopic.php?p=783499&highlight=transvestite+scum#783499). Perhaps you should seek psychological help.By the way, where were you with the morality when keepingitreal470 was threatening me, you big dick-in-the-ass faggot? Someone ought to kick your fucking ass, you pussy.
You wait 2 days to say this, after you had already responded to my post???

I think you're in need of psychological help, and I try to avoid your posts and your drama.

Is there a statute of limitations on when I can say what I want, before you repeat yourself to me? Just admit that you're a virgin. I think you'd feel a lot better.

[Nicole Dupre]

Phobun, do you think Peggy Gee is sexy? Just curious...

[phobun]

Phobun, do you think Peggy Gee is sexy? Just curious...
As far as I'm concerned, Peggy is a woman, and you're not.
Peggy is attractive, and you're not.
Peggy is classy, and you're not.
Peggy is everything you'll never be.

[phobun]

Just admit that you're a virgin. I think you'd feel a lot better.
Just because some vulgar freak calls me a virgin, does not mean that I will answer his questions, anymore than I would answer a marginal queen on a streetcorner who started shrieking at me. You seem to be the only one obsessed with my experiences with transsexuals anyway. Get a life! But as inconceivable as it may be to you, not every guy who likes transsexuals has to humiliate himself by spending any money, let alone $125, on a raunchy middle-aged prostitute.

It's too bad you had to decompensate so bad in response to Hara's posts the other day. You're more of an unwitting clown than you are tranny.

And do you think you're fooling anyone with that bad photoshop? It looks like you took a peach crayon to your face and made it all one shade. If you can't afford to pay a professional to fix yourself, why not at least get your electronic images professionally photoshopped?

[Nicole Dupre]

Just admit that you're a virgin. I think you'd feel a lot better.
Just because some vulgar freak calls me a virgin, does not mean that I will answer his questions, anymore than I would answer a marginal queen on a streetcorner who started shrieking at me. You seem to be the only one obsessed with my experiences with transsexuals anyway. Get a life! But as inconceivable as it may be to you, not every guy who likes transsexuals has to humiliate himself by spending any money, let alone $125, on a raunchy middle-aged prostitute.

It's too bad you had to decompensate so bad in response to Hara's posts the other day. You're more of an unwitting clown than you are tranny.

And do you think you're fooling anyone with that bad photoshop? It looks like you took a peach crayon to your face and made it all one shade. If you can't afford to pay a professional to fix yourself, why not at least get your electronic images professionally photoshopped?


Sweetheart that's not even half of my suggested donation. Don't hate mother. lol

But this is typical angry virgin talk, from a man who doesn't leave the house, let alone get to FL very often. So I can't help you, pookie. lol

But I just thought I'd stop by and say hi between clients.Later, virgin. lol

[Nicole Dupre]

Phobun, do you think Peggy Gee is sexy? Just curious...
As far as I'm concerned, Peggy is a woman, and you're not.
Peggy is attractive, and you're not.
Peggy is classy, and you're not.
Peggy is everything you'll never be.

Go suck Harry Benjamin's cock, you lonely fagasouris. Like anybody in their right mind would be jealous of a third world pussy that was slapped together in the 80's on a fat dummy with a messiah complex. lol

And how would you know what a woman is? You're on a pre-op TS porn forum carrying a torch for a geriatric sexchange with a deformed mouth. If I were her, I would have gotten my mouth edges lifted before I had them invert her love wand. lol

"I don't have to take this! Peggy is my make believe GF, and you're not, Dupre! Nyah nyah, nih, nyah, nyah!" lol

The best part is, you've been threatening to ignore me months, but YOU CAN'T DO IT! You are most welcome, my bitch! 8)

[AllanahStarrNYC]

Bitter party of ONE.

It's amazing how unhappy some people are.

And we have a lovely table for her...

... facing the wall in a dark corner. One rat poison cocktail, coming up. lol

oh my

[BrassVillanueva]

Wow... ya take a break from this site for a few days and come back to find everything's... well, pretty much the same as it was before. Keep up the good work, people. :roll:

[MRSJHANIAHLOVE]

Bitter party of ONE.

It's amazing how unhappy some people are.

And we have a lovely table for her...

... facing the wall in a dark corner. One rat poison cocktail, coming up. lolWOW that bitch is ugly! what a terrible 5 oclock shadow in conjunction with MONSTROUS TESTOSTERONE INFECTED FEATURES!!! lmfao @ transbian :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Nicole Dupre]

Bitter party of ONE.

It's amazing how unhappy some people are.

And we have a lovely table for her...

... facing the wall in a dark corner. One rat poison cocktail, coming up. lolWOW that bitch is ugly! what a terrible 5 oclock shadow in conjunction with MONSTROUS TESTOSTERONE INFECTED FEATURES!!! lmfao @ transbian :lol: :lol: :lol:

LMAO at that loudmouth making his MySpace private...

... that no one ever paid attention to until I posted a link on here! lol

[drock]

i dont want to say anything else, olny "WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS TO YOUR BEAUTIFULL FACE,WHY?!?!?!?"


That body is nice though.