Ashley George now on shemale-club.com

[TSMissJasmine]

I had so much fun shooting Ashley as she was just the most playful girl to shoot. So here are a few pics from one of the sets I shot of her on www.shemale-club.com . getting ready for college, Ashley is gonna break some hearts thats for sure....!

I bet we will see a lot more of this lovely girl!!

[TSMissJasmine]

nice cock and cute feet too

[Star Angel 86]

Ashley George,looks mighty fine in these pics. :D

[barefootjoe69]

nice cock and cute feet too

Thats an under statement!

[TSMissJasmine]

Can't help it I like this pose as well...

[JamesHunt]

110% passable, especially the 2nd pic with that cute smile 8)

[Willie Escalade]

A superstar in the making!

[BrassVillanueva]

Absolutely beautiful!

[barefootjoe69]

Can't help it I like this pose as well...
MissJasmine, That is a wonderful shot!!! You really know what is Hot. Great Work

[TSMissJasmine]

Before our shoot

[rockabilly]

Ashley is super hot , beautiful smile.
Great pics Miss Jasmine

[blonde_sweetheart]

Awwwwwe Jas I love the bus pics they're my favorite :)

[squirtsilly]

I really like those bus pix too. You are so cute, Ashley. You help a guy start the day with a smile on his face!

[TSMissJasmine]

Awwwwwe Jas I love the bus pics they're my favorite :)

These are so cute as well. i need to send you the set so you can use for your myspace and such..

[CaptainGeech]

Awesome stuff. Thanks for sharing. Its very cool to see the before shots. The colors and framing of the shots are just perfect. It also helps that the subject is cute as a button. This shoot was like the perfect storm. Amazing model. Amazing photographer. Amazing pictures. Just amazing :shock: :D :claps

I can totally see this shot being in Maxim in the Hometown Hotties section.
http://www.hungangels.com/board/files/ah00120_162.jpg

[alcoholic408]

She is VERY CUTE, I haven't seen a Hungangel that looks like that yet.

[squirtsilly]

Though I commented here already, I have one more thing to say...

I find clothed outdoor shots especially potent when we already know how alluring the model is naked, underneath her clothes. And when the outdoor shots are as nicely done as these, Miss Jasmine, with model and photog happily and clearly in sync, they are as much of a turn-on as any explicit images. Thanks for sharing this sexy collaboration between you and Ashley, indoors and out!

[Sinister]

Nice pics all around, very pretty. It seems she is starting to have a nice build up (exposure) in a short amount of time.

[rockabilly]

Ashley on a Vespa is hot! ;)

[barefootjoe69]

Ashley on a Vespa is hot! ;)

Ashley on anything is Hot!!!!!

[dreamon]

Ashley, you are absolutely gorgeous... you have a natural beauty that most would be extremely lucky to possess.. I'm really excited to see your future work... like others said, if you do have surgery, don't mess with much- you're pretty much already perfect!

[jaybee]

My dream girl! Marry me!

[rbiller]

This girl is awesome. Could replace Amy as my favorite TGirl.

[red-cyberman]

Wow is all that I can say. Hot body she's perfect. She's amazing and so is Amy. I would like to see them as a Hardcore duo.

[TSMissJasmine]

Though I commented here already, I have one more thing to say...

I find clothed outdoor shots especially potent when we already know how alluring the model is naked, underneath her clothes. And when the outdoor shots are as nicely done as these, Miss Jasmine, with model and photog happily and clearly in sync, they are as much of a turn-on as any explicit images. Thanks for sharing this sexy collaboration between you and Ashley, indoors and out!

Awe thanks baby! Actually the beauty of these pics are 100% Ashley. As a photographer, all I can do is try not to not fuck up the lighting and the frame too badly...

[blonde_sweetheart]

Though I commented here already, I have one more thing to say...

I find clothed outdoor shots especially potent when we already know how alluring the model is naked, underneath her clothes. And when the outdoor shots are as nicely done as these, Miss Jasmine, with model and photog happily and clearly in sync, they are as much of a turn-on as any explicit images. Thanks for sharing this sexy collaboration between you and Ashley, indoors and out!

Awe thanks baby! Actually the beauty of these pics are 100% Ashley. As a photographer, all I can do is try not to not fuck up the lighting and the frame too badly...

Girl please don't sell yourself short! You are amazing :lol: Remember the French girl at the restaurant? And the rude waitress haha ;-)

[jarhead741]

she is gorgeous. Great butt and is really pretty.

[eclipsemint]

Hey Ashley,

I have to come out of porn forum retirement briefly, just to post this message to you.

Because I just saw an episode of Defying Gravity on TV, and it made me think of you.

I feel really sorry for you.

Congratulations on the success of your photo shoots. You are beautiful. You are sweet. Everybody thinks so. You are very popular.

It would be hypocritical of me to criticize you for making porn or becoming a prostitute, since I myself look at porn and have had sex with prostitutes in the past.

But I cannot be anything else but dismayed and saddened by the tragedy unfolding before me. How would your father feel to discover that you have naked photos on the internet and are planning on doing more? I have a daughter of my own, and I would be heartbroken and ashamed.

It is tragic because you are so beautiful, so intelligent and sweet, and capable of achieving so much more. You are so young, and I don't think you fully appreciate the potential consequences of your actions.

You have taken a tiny step on a very slippery slope. First comes posting photos of yourself on the internet. No harm in that.

Then someone invites you to do a nude photo shoot. Then nude videos; then pornographic sex, then prostitution. No pornstar or hooker has ever said, when I saw my guidance counsellor in high school, I told him I've always wanted to make money from selling my body for sex. No parent has ever said, what I wish for my child is to get into porn and make a shitload of money.

From this point on, every family member, prospective employer, coworker, potential boyfriend has a chance of finding naked photos of you from just doing a simple google search of Ashley + transsexual.

Though I want to fuck every porn star I see on the internet, I would never want to be in a relationship or marry one. I could not trust or give my heart to a woman who has offered to sell her body for sex to every other man on the planet just for a few hundred bucks.

The empty comments and acclaim you receive from the sickos on a tranny forum will never compare to the genuine love and respect you could receive from friends, coworkers, lovers and family.

All the best, sweet girl.

From Defying Gravity - “Rubicon”

Passing the point of no return doesn't just happen. It's a choice that we make. A line that we cross. And then have to live with the consequences.

There are no promises of a positive outcome. No guarantees that like Caesar we'll end up with an empire. All we can really count on is that things will change, and that we'll have to live with the results.

And that's the hard part, because we're defined by our past. We can rethink our choices a million times, but what we decide, we own. It becomes part of who we are.

And while we may be crossing the river, our footprints will always remain on the other side.

[TSMissJasmine]

Girl please don't sell yourself short! You are amazing :lol: Remember the French girl at the restaurant? And the rude waitress haha ;-)

hehe, how could I forget!!

Can't wait to shoot you again love....I got a few ideas! By the way, the naughty schoolgirl set came out lovely. Haven't decided if I should share a few of the pics on this board, yet....

[drew84]

Though I commented here already, I have one more thing to say...

I find clothed outdoor shots especially potent when we already know how alluring the model is naked, underneath her clothes. And when the outdoor shots are as nicely done as these, Miss Jasmine, with model and photog happily and clearly in sync, they are as much of a turn-on as any explicit images. Thanks for sharing this sexy collaboration between you and Ashley, indoors and out!

Awe thanks baby! Actually the beauty of these pics are 100% Ashley. As a photographer, all I can do is try not to not fuck up the lighting and the frame too badly...

How long have you been a photographer ?

[rockabilly]

... did you say "naughty schoolgirl" ? :D

[CaptainGeech]

Girl please don't sell yourself short! You are amazing :lol: Remember the French girl at the restaurant? And the rude waitress haha ;-)

hehe, how could I forget!!

Can't wait to shoot you again love....I got a few ideas! By the way, the naughty schoolgirl set came out lovely. Haven't decided if I should share a few of the pics on this board, yet....

[TSMissJasmine]

... did you say "naughty schoolgirl" ? :D

I suppose the term in of itself "naughty schoolgirl" is a bit redundant when talking about a hot young transsexual girl!!!!

[rockabilly]

Thanks Miss Jasmine :D

And thank you Ashley. ;)

[tsmandy]

WTF?

Ashleys an adult not a child. Her pictures are fucking awesome and she has a bright career ahead of her if she wants. Why the drama? Would she be better off getting a possesive boyfriend who paid for everything and controlled her life?

Congratulations Ashley, the photos are amazing. If you are ever in San Fransisco lets make a movie together. Especially love the outdoor stuff, absolute perfection!


Hey Ashley,

I have to come out of porn forum retirement briefly, just to post this message to you.

Because I just saw an episode of Defying Gravity on TV, and it made me think of you.

I feel really sorry for you.

Congratulations on the success of your photo shoots. You are beautiful. You are sweet. Everybody thinks so. You are very popular.

It would be hypocritical of me to criticize you for making porn or becoming a prostitute, since I myself look at porn and have had sex with prostitutes in the past.

But I cannot be anything else but dismayed and saddened by the tragedy unfolding before me. How would your father feel to discover that you have naked photos on the internet and are planning on doing more? I have a daughter of my own, and I would be heartbroken and ashamed.

It is tragic because you are so beautiful, so intelligent and sweet, and capable of achieving so much more. You are so young, and I don't think you fully appreciate the potential consequences of your actions.

You have taken a tiny step on a very slippery slope. First comes posting photos of yourself on the internet. No harm in that.

Then someone invites you to do a nude photo shoot. Then nude videos; then pornographic sex, then prostitution. No pornstar or hooker has ever said, when I saw my guidance counsellor in high school, I told him I've always wanted to make money from selling my body for sex. No parent has ever said, what I wish for my child is to get into porn and make a shitload of money.

From this point on, every family member, prospective employer, coworker, potential boyfriend has a chance of finding naked photos of you from just doing a simple google search of Ashley + transsexual.

Though I want to fuck every porn star I see on the internet, I would never want to be in a relationship or marry one. I could not trust or give my heart to a woman who has offered to sell her body for sex to every other man on the planet just for a few hundred bucks.

The empty comments and acclaim you receive from the sickos on a tranny forum will never compare to the genuine love and respect you could receive from friends, coworkers, lovers and family.

All the best, sweet girl.

From Defying Gravity - “Rubicon”

Passing the point of no return doesn't just happen. It's a choice that we make. A line that we cross. And then have to live with the consequences.

There are no promises of a positive outcome. No guarantees that like Caesar we'll end up with an empire. All we can really count on is that things will change, and that we'll have to live with the results.

And that's the hard part, because we're defined by our past. We can rethink our choices a million times, but what we decide, we own. It becomes part of who we are.

And while we may be crossing the river, our footprints will always remain on the other side.

[speedstick112]

Hey Ashley,

I have to come out of porn forum retirement briefly, just to post this message to you.

Because I just saw an episode of Defying Gravity on TV, and it made me think of you.

I feel really sorry for you.[/i]

Whoa there, way to lay it on thick dude. It's a personal decision.

Either way, this set will keep me up all night.

[liam-whostheman]

stunning ....looks like my sister.... oops did i really say that

[blonde_sweetheart]

Looooooveeee it Jas! :) And Mandy for sure! I'd love to work with you

[Odelay]

I love the preachy guy. He doesn't see the irony that by consuming porn he enables girls like Ashley to have a career in adult entertainment. The spec in Ashley's eye is teensy tiny by comparison to the log in the preacher's eye.

Nice pics, Ash.

[TSMissJasmine]

Because I just saw an episode of Defying Gravity on TV, and it made me think of you.
[/i]

Oh geez so the guy watches a program on tv and has an epiphany on "what it means to have good values."

The fight for TransSexual females to be respected as viewed as women has been fought for many years by great transsexual women both in and out of the porn industry as well as escorting, prostitution or however you wish to view it as. This quest for life and their desire to live true to their selves has paved the way for new and exciting opportunities.

Ashley is a beautiful and very bright girl. I believe she demonstrates the new breed of Transsexual girl. It's about empowerment and creating opportunities for future self growth and to accomplish various goals and dreams. And to do it on our own terms, under our own rules. Doing what we want as a form of empowerment for our future. I believe someone like Ashley can accomplish anything in the world she sets her mind and heart out to accomplish. If it is in the form of adult entertainment, fucking why not? If she chooses to explore her own sexuality and make money to fund things like college and grad school and travel and such, then I think its brilliant. Im sure someone like ashley will walk away from the business the day she gets bored with it.

Congrats Ashley on your great screen presence. I can't wait to release the first shemale-club video!!!!

[TSMissJasmine]

[quote="drew84"
How long have you been a photographer ?[/quote]

Im no photographer, im just a hot chick with a camera...

[tsmandy]

Because I just saw an episode of Defying Gravity on TV, and it made me think of you.
[/i]

Oh geez so the guy watches a program on tv and has an epiphany on "what it means to have good values."

The fight for TransSexual females to be respected as viewed as women has been fought for many years by great transsexual women both in and out of the porn industry as well as escorting, prostitution or however you wish to view it as. This quest for life and their desire to live true to their selves has paved the way for new and exciting opportunities.

Ashley is a beautiful and very bright girl. I believe she demonstrates the new breed of Transsexual girl. It's about empowerment and creating opportunities for future self growth and to accomplish various goals and dreams. And to do it on our own terms, under our own rules. Doing what we want as a form of empowerment for our future. I believe someone like Ashley can accomplish anything in the world she sets her mind and heart out to accomplish. If it is in the form of adult entertainment, fucking why not? If she chooses to explore her own sexuality and make money to fund things like college and grad school and travel and such, then I think its brilliant. Im sure someone like ashley will walk away from the business the day she gets bored with it.

Congrats Ashley on your great screen presence. I can't wait to release the first shemale-club video!!!!

I just got a boner, reading that.

[TSMissJasmine]

I just got a boner, reading that.

Hehe, lemme see! :-p

[BellaBellucci]

Because I just saw an episode of Defying Gravity on TV, and it made me think of you.
[/i]

Oh geez so the guy watches a program on tv and has an epiphany on "what it means to have good values."

The fight for TransSexual females to be respected as viewed as women has been fought for many years by great transsexual women both in and out of the porn industry as well as escorting, prostitution or however you wish to view it as. This quest for life and their desire to live true to their selves has paved the way for new and exciting opportunities.

Ashley is a beautiful and very bright girl. I believe she demonstrates the new breed of Transsexual girl. It's about empowerment and creating opportunities for future self growth and to accomplish various goals and dreams. And to do it on our own terms, under our own rules. Doing what we want as a form of empowerment for our future. I believe someone like Ashley can accomplish anything in the world she sets her mind and heart out to accomplish. If it is in the form of adult entertainment, fucking why not? If she chooses to explore her own sexuality and make money to fund things like college and grad school and travel and such, then I think its brilliant. Im sure someone like ashley will walk away from the business the day she gets bored with it.

Congrats Ashley on your great screen presence. I can't wait to release the first shemale-club video!!!!

Well said. Ashley's future is so bright, she's gotta wear shades!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qrriKcwvlY

Oh, and Ashley? BLOG BITCH! ;)

~BB~

[Willie Escalade]

[quote="drew84"
How long have you been a photographer ?

Im no photographer, im just a hot chick with a camera...[/quote]
Perfect description of me...except for the hot chick part :oops:

[BellaBellucci]

How long have you been a photographer ?

Im no photographer, im just a hot chick with a camera...
Perfect description of me...except for the hot chick part :oops:

As someone who uses one of your shots as her avatar I have to say: don't sell yourself short.

~BB~

[CaptainGeech]

[quote="drew84"
How long have you been a photographer ?

Im no photographer, im just a hot chick with a camera...[/quote]

You seriously underestimate your talent. If nothing else your models seem to have a calmness and trust in what you are doing when you photograph them. I realize that you are only sharing a select few shots when you post but I have yet to see even one where I thought to myself "Damn. That is a real amateurish photographer they used on that shoot". Almost always there are at least a couple shots were the model has that Deer in the headlights look. Or awkward and uncomfortable posing is going on. Especially with young models just starting out. I don't see anything like that with your shoots. That alone is very rare and takes a great deal of skill.

I think the only thing I would have done differently is adjust the levels slightly for the following picture. Adjusted shot:

[eclipsemint]

Thank you for your responses to my post. I appreciate your points of view.

I would like to redress some of the issues you have raised.

TS Mandy Mitchell:

Ashleys an adult not a child.
- Ashley is a grown woman responsible for her own decisions. She can drive, vote, drink and go to college. However, at the age of 18, she is still developing as a person, and like all young people, her decision-making prefrontal part of the brain is still developing, the part that deals with executive functions, or what we call more thinking functions: planning, goal-directed behavior, judgment, insight, and is still developing right up to age 21. Teens use less of the prefrontal portion of the brain, and make decisions based more on emotions than considering the consequences.

A good example is that Ashley is dead keen to get breast enlargements and other surgery, and she is likely to rush out and buy them based on the emotional need to feel feminine, instead of waiting to see if they grow a little more from a few more years of hormone treatment.

Like most budding porn stars, she is currently receiving a lot of adulation and attention from people in the porn industry who stand to make a lot of money on the back of her success. I just want to offer her some of the consequences that may arise as a result of the decisions she is making now.

Her pictures are fucking awesome and she has a bright career ahead of her if she wants.
- Yes, she is beautiful. Her pictures are great. Yes she does have a huge career in porn if she wants. I said so too.
However, I don't think that there are enough people giving her the alternative point of view, that involvement in the porn industry may limit some of her other choices when she is older, should she want to have a serious secular career instead of a porn career.

Why the drama? Would she be better off getting a possessive boyfriend who paid for everything and controlled her life?
- Are those the only choices?


Congratulations Ashley, the photos are amazing.
- Agreed.

If you are ever in San Fransisco lets make a movie together. Especially love the outdoor stuff, absolute perfection!
- From which you stand to raise a substantial amount of interest and money from your customers. And that is part of the problem. Ashley is currently receiving this kind of advice from everybody in the industry who can recognize her potential, and all want a piece of her.


TS Miss Jasmine:

The fight for TransSexual females to be respected as viewed as women has been fought for many years by great transsexual women both in and out of the porn industry as well as escorting, prostitution or however you wish to view it as. This quest for life and their desire to live true to their selves has paved the way for new and exciting opportunities.
It's about empowerment and creating opportunities for future self growth and to accomplish various goals and dreams. And to do it on our own terms, under our own rules. Doing what we want as a form of empowerment for our future.
- Yes, Jenna Jameson gave this same argument in favour of porn during a radio interview - it is empowering to women. They should have the choice to do it. Etc.
The alternative arguments against ponr, from Jenna Jamesons own book:
http://antipornographyactivist.blogspot.com/2007/07/jenna-jamesons-twenty-five-good-reasons.html
If porn is so empowering, then every woman should do it, right?
“I lied 100% of the time to 100% of the people. Lying is the native language of porn stars because they can't afford to tell you the truth. Not only would it ruin the fantasy for their fans but more importantly, it would ruin the amount of their paychecks. Don't believe porn actresses when they proudly proclaim they enjoy making porn movies.”
Shelley Lubben, former porn star.

I think that 90% of the business does drugs or alcohol but maybe 70% have a problem.
Jenna Paisley, former porn star.

Ashley is a beautiful and very bright girl.
- Agreed. Very beautiful. And bright enough to be a doctor or a scientist working in health. She could discover the cure for cancer, or do research in gene therapy. I believe in her too.


I believe someone like Ashley can accomplish anything in the world she sets her mind and heart out to accomplish.
- I agree. That is why I hope she soon quits the porn industry and concentrates on her other goals instead. Medicine or health science.


If it is in the form of adult entertainment, fucking why not?
- Because it will limit some of her choices later in life and affect the way that people regard her as a former porn star.
- Because I fear that the porn industry and success in it may change her for the worse.

If she chooses to explore her own sexuality and make money to fund things like college and grad school and travel and such, then I think its brilliant.
- Not to mention the money you stand to make off her from publishing her naked photos and videos. Or the finders kickback you might receive for discovering a new star.
- There are other ways to finance college and grad school.
- You can explore your sexuality without involvement in pornography.
- Porn and success in porn is more likely to harm your sexual relationships, not develop them positively. Especially for someone like Ashley, who already has a jaded view of men and relationships, and is inexperienced and young.
From Jenna Jamesons book:
http://antipornographyactivist.blogspot.com/2007/07/jenna-jamesons-twenty-five-good-reasons.html

I'm sure someone like ashley will walk away from the business the day she gets bored with it.
- Or until the day she is forced out because she is no longer marketable.
- Because if she is not able to walk away from the business the day she gets bored with it, then that would mean...she is no longer doing it out of choice?, but to fund a drug habit?, or because she can no longer market herself to employers to do anything else? Insert your own reason here.
- Anyway, for an alternative viewpoint from someone else in the industry, Jenna Jameson says:
The porn industry and success within it can change you and others for the worse.
Also, she says, even if you leave the porn industry, your porn career will haunt you forever.

Congrats Ashley on your great screen presence. I can't wait to release the first shemale-club video!!!!
- Yes, congratulations, Ashley. You are beautiful and sweet. And I will probably watch those videos. But I would just as happy to forgo that pleasure just to hear that Ashley decided to go to college and earn her way through life without pornography or prostitution, the way the majority of students do.


Odelay:
...by consuming porn he enables girls like Ashley to have a career in adult entertainment.
- I am not debating on the moral virtues of pornography, nor am I criticising porn stars.
There is some good pornography out there. But there is also a lot of degrading porn. To me, the majority of porn is definitely demoralizing. But I am speaking generally. There is no doubt in my mind that there is empowering pornography, especially such as Tantric sex and the Karma Sutra; sex where it is about pleasuring your partner whether male or female. In fact I believe it could enhance the sex lives of many couples. But for the most part pornography is made by men, for men.

Watching a girl being fucked up the bum, or sucking some guys cock while pretending not only to like it, but scream for it is nothing short of disturbing. It’s like rape on film. I don’t want to judge anyone for enjoying it, or watching it, or being turned on by it – but like I said, the majority of porn is made by men who just want to make a shitload of money and for men who just want skin and sex.
I am merely saying that involving herself in pornography now at such a young age when you have clear secular goals, may limit some of her options later, and affect the way that people regard her as an former porn star. Plus, she could achieve so much more with her life, her time, her talents.

I wish her nothing but love and happiness in her life, and success in everything she does. My fear is that this crowd of sickos is going to lead her astray from being the best girl she can be and having the best life she can.

[Buddy Wood]

Great stuff ladies!!

Man I remember when I was the only one trying to lead little Ashley astray...and I still haven't even met her. Great pics!!!

[squirtsilly]

Though I commented here already, I have one more thing to say...

I find clothed outdoor shots especially potent when we already know how alluring the model is naked, underneath her clothes. And when the outdoor shots are as nicely done as these, Miss Jasmine, with model and photog happily and clearly in sync, they are as much of a turn-on as any explicit images. Thanks for sharing this sexy collaboration between you and Ashley, indoors and out!

Awe thanks baby! Actually the beauty of these pics are 100% Ashley. As a photographer, all I can do is try not to not fuck up the lighting and the frame too badly...

Any wise glamour photographer will admit that the model is the most important factor, but lighting her and framing her are very important too. And putting the model at ease. These are no small accomplishments, and I agree with other folks that you shouldn't sell yourself short, Miss Jasmine. Thanks for sharing these two additional sexy shots as well!

[Falrune]

Great model, great photgrapher!

[dando21]

An absolute Perfect 11!

[Yeah]

Ashley look so hot in those pics; I especially like the pics of her in the jean shorts!

[tsmandy]

Thank you for your responses to my post. I appreciate your points of view.

I would like to redress some of the issues you have raised.

TS Mandy Mitchell:

Ashleys an adult not a child.
- Ashley is a grown woman responsible for her own decisions. She can drive, vote, drink and go to college. However, at the age of 18, she is still developing as a person, and like all young people, her decision-making prefrontal part of the brain is still developing, the part that deals with executive functions, or what we call more thinking functions: planning, goal-directed behavior, judgment, insight, and is still developing right up to age 21. Teens use less of the prefrontal portion of the brain, and make decisions based more on emotions than considering the consequences.

A good example is that Ashley is dead keen to get breast enlargements and other surgery, and she is likely to rush out and buy them based on the emotional need to feel feminine, instead of waiting to see if they grow a little more from a few more years of hormone treatment.

Like most budding porn stars, she is currently receiving a lot of adulation and attention from people in the porn industry who stand to make a lot of money on the back of her success. I just want to offer her some of the consequences that may arise as a result of the decisions she is making now.

Her pictures are fucking awesome and she has a bright career ahead of her if she wants.
- Yes, she is beautiful. Her pictures are great. Yes she does have a huge career in porn if she wants. I said so too.
However, I don't think that there are enough people giving her the alternative point of view, that involvement in the porn industry may limit some of her other choices when she is older, should she want to have a serious secular career instead of a porn career.

Why the drama? Would she be better off getting a possessive boyfriend who paid for everything and controlled her life?
- Are those the only choices?


Congratulations Ashley, the photos are amazing.
- Agreed.

If you are ever in San Fransisco lets make a movie together. Especially love the outdoor stuff, absolute perfection!
- From which you stand to raise a substantial amount of interest and money from your customers. And that is part of the problem. Ashley is currently receiving this kind of advice from everybody in the industry who can recognize her potential, and all want a piece of her.


TS Miss Jasmine:

The fight for TransSexual females to be respected as viewed as women has been fought for many years by great transsexual women both in and out of the porn industry as well as escorting, prostitution or however you wish to view it as. This quest for life and their desire to live true to their selves has paved the way for new and exciting opportunities.
It's about empowerment and creating opportunities for future self growth and to accomplish various goals and dreams. And to do it on our own terms, under our own rules. Doing what we want as a form of empowerment for our future.
- Yes, Jenna Jameson gave this same argument in favour of porn during a radio interview - it is empowering to women. They should have the choice to do it. Etc.
The alternative arguments against ponr, from Jenna Jamesons own book:
http://antipornographyactivist.blogspot.com/2007/07/jenna-jamesons-twenty-five-good-reasons.html
If porn is so empowering, then every woman should do it, right?
“I lied 100% of the time to 100% of the people. Lying is the native language of porn stars because they can't afford to tell you the truth. Not only would it ruin the fantasy for their fans but more importantly, it would ruin the amount of their paychecks. Don't believe porn actresses when they proudly proclaim they enjoy making porn movies.”
Shelley Lubben, former porn star.

I think that 90% of the business does drugs or alcohol but maybe 70% have a problem.
Jenna Paisley, former porn star.

Ashley is a beautiful and very bright girl.
- Agreed. Very beautiful. And bright enough to be a doctor or a scientist working in health. She could discover the cure for cancer, or do research in gene therapy. I believe in her too.


I believe someone like Ashley can accomplish anything in the world she sets her mind and heart out to accomplish.
- I agree. That is why I hope she soon quits the porn industry and concentrates on her other goals instead. Medicine or health science.


If it is in the form of adult entertainment, fucking why not?
- Because it will limit some of her choices later in life and affect the way that people regard her as a former porn star.
- Because I fear that the porn industry and success in it may change her for the worse.

If she chooses to explore her own sexuality and make money to fund things like college and grad school and travel and such, then I think its brilliant.
- Not to mention the money you stand to make off her from publishing her naked photos and videos. Or the finders kickback you might receive for discovering a new star.
- There are other ways to finance college and grad school.
- You can explore your sexuality without involvement in pornography.
- Porn and success in porn is more likely to harm your sexual relationships, not develop them positively. Especially for someone like Ashley, who already has a jaded view of men and relationships, and is inexperienced and young.
From Jenna Jamesons book:
http://antipornographyactivist.blogspot.com/2007/07/jenna-jamesons-twenty-five-good-reasons.html

I'm sure someone like ashley will walk away from the business the day she gets bored with it.
- Or until the day she is forced out because she is no longer marketable.
- Because if she is not able to walk away from the business the day she gets bored with it, then that would mean...she is no longer doing it out of choice?, but to fund a drug habit?, or because she can no longer market herself to employers to do anything else? Insert your own reason here.
- Anyway, for an alternative viewpoint from someone else in the industry, Jenna Jameson says:
The porn industry and success within it can change you and others for the worse.
Also, she says, even if you leave the porn industry, your porn career will haunt you forever.

Congrats Ashley on your great screen presence. I can't wait to release the first shemale-club video!!!!
- Yes, congratulations, Ashley. You are beautiful and sweet. And I will probably watch those videos. But I would just as happy to forgo that pleasure just to hear that Ashley decided to go to college and earn her way through life without pornography or prostitution, the way the majority of students do.


Odelay:
...by consuming porn he enables girls like Ashley to have a career in adult entertainment.
- I am not debating on the moral virtues of pornography, nor am I criticising porn stars.
There is some good pornography out there. But there is also a lot of degrading porn. To me, the majority of porn is definitely demoralizing. But I am speaking generally. There is no doubt in my mind that there is empowering pornography, especially such as Tantric sex and the Karma Sutra; sex where it is about pleasuring your partner whether male or female. In fact I believe it could enhance the sex lives of many couples. But for the most part pornography is made by men, for men.

Watching a girl being fucked up the bum, or sucking some guys cock while pretending not only to like it, but scream for it is nothing short of disturbing. It’s like rape on film. I don’t want to judge anyone for enjoying it, or watching it, or being turned on by it – but like I said, the majority of porn is made by men who just want to make a shitload of money and for men who just want skin and sex.
I am merely saying that involving herself in pornography now at such a young age when you have clear secular goals, may limit some of her options later, and affect the way that people regard her as an former porn star. Plus, she could achieve so much more with her life, her time, her talents.

I wish her nothing but love and happiness in her life, and success in everything she does. My fear is that this crowd of sickos is going to lead her astray from being the best girl she can be and having the best life she can.

It is really none of your business to make these kinds of judgements though. You have no idea what kind of support structure Ashley has, and you have no more right to question her decision to shoot porn than you would to question her right to transition at such a young age.

Quoting right wing christian hack Shelly Lubben is pretty low. The women is a notorious crackpot with a vendetta and has no right to speak for sex workers at large.

I'm not encouraging Ashley so that I can make money off of her. I'm encouraging her because I try to encourage other girls in my industry who are trying to make a name for themselves. Period. I think Ashley is cute and has a good attitude and that is why I say I would work with her, not because I have giant dollar signs for eyes. So chill out.

These daddy posts give me the creeps.

[Desmon]

Can't help it I like this pose as well...

Super hot! You know my vice for cute feet Jasmine! :)

[eclipsemint]

TS Mandy Mitchell:
It is really none of your business to make these kinds of judgments though. You have no idea what kind of support structure Ashley has, and you have no more right to question her decision to shoot porn than you would to question her right to transition at such a young age.

- I apologize if I haven't made it clear enough, that I'm not questioning her right to do anything, just the wisdom of it. I am not judging her choices. If she chooses a career in porn, I hope she succeeds at it and that it makes her happy, I just doubt that it will. I won't think negatively about her at all. I'm sorry if I wrongly assumed that I am the only one advising her to consider the negative consequences along with the positive ones. I would hope that any friend who loves her would give her the best advice, and the best advice is balanced advice.
- The work she has done so far, I regard more as artwork than porn. But hearing her plans to advance further into pornography scares me for her sake. Its a slippery slope. For the reasons I stated in previous posts.

Quoting right wing christian hack Shelly Lubben is pretty low. The women is a notorious crackpot with a vendetta and has no right to speak for sex workers at large.

- Even so, I quoted two other pornstars as well, and there are plenty of other examples of former pornstars and ex prostitutes on both sides of politics with horror stories about the industry to learn from, warning anyone thinking of getting into the sex industry.

I'm not encouraging Ashley so that I can make money off of her. I'm encouraging her because I try to encourage other girls in my industry who are trying to make a name for themselves. Period. I think Ashley is cute and has a good attitude and that is why I say I would work with her, not because I have giant dollar signs for eyes. So chill out.

- You're a goodhearted person to take noobs under your wing and I respect the porn career you have. I'm convinced if Ash chooses a career in the sex industy, whether porn or prostitution, you can teach her a lot to help her be successful.
- But just because you have the ability to and just because you have the right to do it, doesn't make it the best choice. The enemy of the best is settling for second best. If Ashley wants both a porn career and a secular career in health or medicine, don't you agree that the one may affect the other? That Ashley might have to make sacrifices in one career to succeed in the other? From what I've read from the experiences of porn stars like Jenna Jameson, it certainly seems so. Once you establish a porn career on the internet, your porn career will haunt you forever. In a perfect world it shouldn't be so, but we have to live in the real world.

These daddy posts give me the creeps.
- Yeah, I hear you. For me, its snakes that give me the creeps. I find it best to try and avoid them. So that would be my suggestion. You could go around killing all the snakes, but surely they have a right to live too, and they help to balance the ecology.


I wish Ash success too. Again, I just think a porn career will affect the way some prospective employers will view her as an employee and it will limit some of her options, if she chooses to advance in a serious career in health or science. As a transsexual person it will be hard enough to convince employers to accept her, but being a pornstar as well? It has to limit your options later. And I fear the negative way it may change her as a young developing person. She seems such a sweet girl now, it would be a shame to see her soured by the sex industry, which is a risk. And the other reasons I also stated in previous post. (Repeating myself here.)

I can't believe as a pornstar yourself you cannot see how it negatively affects how some people (not me) regard you. You may not give a fuck what they think, and that's a healthy way to deal with their negative opinions, but unlike Ashley, you are not beginning a prehealth college course and applying to UCLA to pursue a career in science or health, are you?

Love and kisses, Mandy.

All the best, Ashley.

[rickyswild]

All I know Ashley is start a site and I'll join :wink:

[acacab]

I think we can all agree that eclipsemint is a douchebag. He comes here pontificating and offering his two cents that no one asked for...yet it wasn't too long ago that this clown photoshopped Ashley into his avatar and was writing these creepy, gushing posts to her. Get a grip, dude.

[bridgetbbyxo]

TS Mandy Mitchell:
It is really none of your business to make these kinds of judgments though. You have no idea what kind of support structure Ashley has, and you have no more right to question her decision to shoot porn than you would to question her right to transition at such a young age.

- I apologize if I haven't made it clear enough, that I'm not questioning her right to do anything, just the wisdom of it. I am not judging her choices. If she chooses a career in porn, I hope she succeeds at it and that it makes her happy, I just doubt that it will. I won't think negatively about her at all. I'm sorry if I wrongly assumed that I am the only one advising her to consider the negative consequences along with the positive ones. I would hope that any friend who loves her would give her the best advice, and the best advice is balanced advice.
- The work she has done so far, I regard more as artwork than porn. But hearing her plans to advance further into pornography scares me for her sake. Its a slippery slope. For the reasons I stated in previous posts.

Quoting right wing christian hack Shelly Lubben is pretty low. The women is a notorious crackpot with a vendetta and has no right to speak for sex workers at large.

- Even so, I quoted two other pornstars as well, and there are plenty of other examples of former pornstars and ex prostitutes on both sides of politics with horror stories about the industry to learn from, warning anyone thinking of getting into the sex industry.

I'm not encouraging Ashley so that I can make money off of her. I'm encouraging her because I try to encourage other girls in my industry who are trying to make a name for themselves. Period. I think Ashley is cute and has a good attitude and that is why I say I would work with her, not because I have giant dollar signs for eyes. So chill out.

- You're a goodhearted person to take noobs under your wing and I respect the porn career you have. I'm convinced if Ash chooses a career in the sex industy, whether porn or prostitution, you can teach her a lot to help her be successful.
- But just because you have the ability to and just because you have the right to do it, doesn't make it the best choice. The enemy of the best is settling for second best. If Ashley wants both a porn career and a secular career in health or medicine, don't you agree that the one may affect the other? That Ashley might have to make sacrifices in one career to succeed in the other? From what I've read from the experiences of porn stars like Jenna Jameson, it certainly seems so. Once you establish a porn career on the internet, your porn career will haunt you forever. In a perfect world it shouldn't be so, but we have to live in the real world.

These daddy posts give me the creeps.
- Yeah, I hear you. For me, its snakes that give me the creeps. I find it best to try and avoid them. So that would be my suggestion. You could go around killing all the snakes, but surely they have a right to live too, and they help to balance the ecology.


I wish Ash success too. Again, I just think a porn career will affect the way some prospective employers will view her as an employee and it will limit some of her options, if she chooses to advance in a serious career in health or science. As a transsexual person it will be hard enough to convince employers to accept her, but being a pornstar as well? It has to limit your options later. And I fear the negative way it may change her as a young developing person. She seems such a sweet girl now, it would be a shame to see her soured by the sex industry, which is a risk. And the other reasons I also stated in previous post. (Repeating myself here.)

I can't believe as a pornstar yourself you cannot see how it negatively affects how some people (not me) regard you. You may not give a fuck what they think, and that's a healthy way to deal with their negative opinions, but unlike Ashley, you are not beginning a prehealth college course and applying to UCLA to pursue a career in science or health, are you?

Love and kisses, Mandy.

All the best, Ashley.

hey just wanna say i really i apperciate your posts, you've made the descion to not so clear for me, provided me with solace . even tho it was directed towards ashley, i really am grateful that you put your input..
thank you..
bridget

[eclipsemint]

I think we can all agree that eclipsemint is a douchebag. He comes here pontificating and offering his two cents that no one asked for...yet it wasn't too long ago that this clown photoshopped Ashley into his avatar and was writing these creepy, gushing posts to her. Get a grip, dude.

Acacab, I don't care what you think and your kneejerk reaction to my considered arguments means nothing to me.

Bridget, you're welcome.

Ashley, I AM creep, compared to you. The reason for all my posts, past and present is because I care about what happens to you and want you to be happy. I have nothing to gain personally from posting my messages to you. Take care. Bye.

[Chuck]

Hey Ashley,

I have to come out of porn forum retirement briefly, just to post this message to you.

Because I just saw an episode of Defying Gravity on TV, and it made me think of you.

I feel really sorry for you.

Congratulations on the success of your photo shoots. You are beautiful. You are sweet. Everybody thinks so. You are very popular.

It would be hypocritical of me to criticize you for making porn or becoming a prostitute, since I myself look at porn and have had sex with prostitutes in the past.

But I cannot be anything else but dismayed and saddened by the tragedy unfolding before me. How would your father feel to discover that you have naked photos on the internet and are planning on doing more? I have a daughter of my own, and I would be heartbroken and ashamed.

It is tragic because you are so beautiful, so intelligent and sweet, and capable of achieving so much more. You are so young, and I don't think you fully appreciate the potential consequences of your actions.

You have taken a tiny step on a very slippery slope. First comes posting photos of yourself on the internet. No harm in that.

Then someone invites you to do a nude photo shoot. Then nude videos; then pornographic sex, then prostitution. No pornstar or hooker has ever said, when I saw my guidance counsellor in high school, I told him I've always wanted to make money from selling my body for sex. No parent has ever said, what I wish for my child is to get into porn and make a shitload of money.

From this point on, every family member, prospective employer, coworker, potential boyfriend has a chance of finding naked photos of you from just doing a simple google search of Ashley + transsexual.

Though I want to fuck every porn star I see on the internet, I would never want to be in a relationship or marry one. I could not trust or give my heart to a woman who has offered to sell her body for sex to every other man on the planet just for a few hundred bucks.

The empty comments and acclaim you receive from the sickos on a tranny forum will never compare to the genuine love and respect you could receive from friends, coworkers, lovers and family.

All the best, sweet girl.

From Defying Gravity - “Rubicon”

Passing the point of no return doesn't just happen. It's a choice that we make. A line that we cross. And then have to live with the consequences.

There are no promises of a positive outcome. No guarantees that like Caesar we'll end up with an empire. All we can really count on is that things will change, and that we'll have to live with the results.

And that's the hard part, because we're defined by our past. We can rethink our choices a million times, but what we decide, we own. It becomes part of who we are.

And while we may be crossing the river, our footprints will always remain on the other side.

He's a self-righteous, presumptuous ass...........BUT...........much as I hate to say it.........he's right. Yes, it's ironic, but the irony does not make it any less true.

And it was a very thoughtful series of posts on his part, even if you totally disagree.

[rockabilly]

E.M. was just being the devils advocate.

You have to look at the big picture , everything is connected. What you do now will effect future plans. But you live and learn. :shrug:

[EyeCumInPiece]

Whats with all the judgement going on here lately? this is a place i alwayz found fun, and never took very seriously. Damn....some people on here just get way too judgemental with there rants.

[TSMissJasmine]

The empty comments and acclaim you receive from the sickos on a tranny forum will never compare to the genuine love and respect you could receive from friends, coworkers, lovers and family.[/i]

The above statement is about the only accurate statement you've made in your rants.

At first you come across as someone who genuinely cares about the girl in question as well as girls in the porn industry overall. Although it was sort of stating the ridiculously obvious, saying things like men make porn for men and all that. Talking about the porn studios producing degrading content blah blah blah. How producers stand to profit from entertainers and talent and such. But okay, it seemed like you cared. Hooray, seemed like you were a dude that got it.

As a consensual and successful adult entertainer, I would argue that there are as many success stories in the porn industry as there are negative stories. You sit here and quote quotes from an anti-pornography sites who take things out of context. Or you quote some drugged out ex prostitute who throws out data with no academic backup to the data's accuracy? I do advocacy for human rights of consensual sex workers full time, your data is fabricated by anti-porn and anti-prostitution academics.

There are porn stars who are bad business women and others who are good business women. The best thing a new starlet could do is invest and save her money wisely. Which is very tough for Transsexuals, especially when she has to spend $50.000-$200,000 just to fund a single transition.

With more and more girls producing their own content, negotiating contracts that get them paid on the back end as well as the front end, its like any business. Either you thrive or you don't. Again, there are adult entertainers who are terrible business women and entertainers that are great business women. Personally as an adult entertainer, I've been trying to start a brand that keeps the profit in the girls pockets so I fully understand what you are saying about opportunists and the like.

Then I still wondered if you really cared in general but, you blow that just by being on this very board. You obviously demonstrate a biased and more than a general opinion of this situation, sharing very private information about this girls educational interests and such only amplifies your obvious unhealthy interest in her. This public behavior demonstrates what appears to be a bit of an obsession you have with a girl that you apparently cant have, probably because you are a married or divorced older guy with a daughter. It also demonstrates you are a man with no integrity or real values.

You speak of your daughter and your wife, and how you would be ashamed if she entered into porn. To your wife, daughter, friends and coworkers, you appear to be this straight and narrow, conservative man with values. Exploiting and empowering prostitutes and porn stars to satisfy your sexual desires behind your wife and daughters back is hardly proof you care about anybody but yourself. Exposing this girls private affairs only further puts her at risk from creeps like yourself. This does not seem to be the behavior of a man that is looking out for a girls best interest. Now you simply come across as an angry guy who got denied and because she's taking a direction you don't like. Sounds a bit controlling to me.

So you live one persona, showing traditional values in the face of your family, friends and coworkers. You demonstrate one persona in public, even teach your daughter traditional values. I bet your daughter would be proud to know daddy is an upstanding citizen as a front, but empowers porn stars and prostitutes by purchasing their services. And to take it a step further, sees chicks with dicks.

I even venture to say that you probably kiss and touch your wife and daughter with the very same lips and hands you use to fondle porn stars and prostitutes. You probably demonstrate the same values you speak until your wife turns her back. then its off to suck some tranny dick. who cares right, shes just a whore.

Making assumptions about how a potential entertainers family will (or will not) support them is just narrow minded and judgmental. You see whores, yet you would never marry one. Just another reason girls like us choose to explore our sexuality at your expense rather than at our own.

You mention people stand to make money off of new girls who enter into Adult entertainment. Well duh, when Motorola hires a new executive to hire talent, isn't the point to turn out a profitable venture? Personally, I don't own a site where other girls are featured. I make not one penny off of girls who enter into the industry other than a very small shooters fee if I take the pictures. I wish I did though. Sometime in the future there will be sites where girls all share the profits from single scenes to sign-ups and renewals and residual back end income of dvd and vod sales etc.

Yes you mention we can explore our sexuality without porn. Yes we can continue to have sex with guys for free that want to be with us behind closed doors but do not have the balls to bring us home to mom and dad or, family and friends, whatever or whoever. The very same guys that didn't want to help us with surgeries, medications, therapy, hair removal blah blah blah blah blah. Yes we could be exploited by men who want to suck our dicks behind closed doors and not contribute to the cost of our transitions. The cost of us becoming true to who we are.

You mention how a girl can be forced out of the porn industry because she is no longer marketable but you fail to mention the tens of thousands of "Enron" type employees who not only lost their careers, 401k and retirement plans and everything they owned, but ended up on the streets. People who invested education, life and career in these "ethical" business executives. There is no guarantee that selling out to corporate america will yield you a better life.

You mention the majority of students who fund college without porn or prostitution. Who are these girls? Are these the same girls that mommy and daddy pay for college for them? The same girls that end up in miserable jobs and resort to marrying a pathetic "mainstream guy" so he can take care of her (the same guy that seeking professional sex behind her back)? Do you realize how many "normal college students" frequently do sexual favors for money, food, shelter or whatever?" Do you realize the next time you tell your daughter "no you cant have money," and she needs something bad enough, she will get it one way or the other?

I believe there is no easy path for an individual who makes the decision to transition. Whatever the cause be it mental or physical, this decision comes at a great cost. Though more and more parents are becoming educated and show a tremendous amount of support for these individuals, in the end the cost of our transitions fall upon ourselves. The cost is far greater than the financial aspect with loss of career, loss of family, loss of friends etc. There are few ways to earn the kind of money it takes successfully accomplish a transition.

You speak of consequences of our actions. You don't acknowledge what we sacrifice to make the step towards transition yet you talk about how our decision to use adult entertainment as a means to fund our transitions and growth are not wise. I don't think at this state in our lives, porn makes a difference in our futures one way or the other. Hello "Stage Names."

Then you speak of what mom or dad would say, or job counselors about the industry. Are these the same career counselors that are miserable at their jobs? The same men that sneak around behind their wives backs to have sex with us? The same miserable, closeted people that you've demonstrated you are in this very discussion thread?

You speak of men judging us in the end. Are these the same men that wouldn't be caught dead with us when we first started out transitions? The same men that patiently wait for us to lose our jobs, family, friends and careers, so we take it upon ourselves to fund our transitions on our own. The same men that want us to fuck TS in secret, while everybody they knows is lead to believe you are this masculine straight guy? The same guy that wants to present us as a normal female to family and friends, with the cock between our legs to be "our little secret?" Most of the men we see prefer to hide in the closet about their desires to be with us. Sucking our dicks in private, then going home to mom and dad or wife and kids, pretending to be whatever it is mainstream society says you should be.

The best thing a girl entering into the adult business can do is create projects that pay you long term and, save your hard earned money!!!

[ed_jaxon]

In the years that I have been frequenting this forum I have never seen so much truth spoken.

I can see where EM was coming from but Jasmine laid that shit out as clearly as I have ever seen.

I usually read these threads and steer way clear of posting but I had to say that this is as close to crystallizing what many of the girls on here have to put up with as anything I have ever read or seen.

[blonde_sweetheart]

Jasmine is one of the smartest people I've met in a long while.She taught me a whole lot about a few things in the short 2 days I spent with her.And as usual she is totally on point on this subject ..

[eclipsemint]

The empty comments and acclaim you receive from the sickos on a tranny forum will never compare to the genuine love and respect you could receive from friends, coworkers, lovers and family.[/i]

The above statement is about the only accurate statement you've made in your rants.

At first you come across as someone who genuinely cares about the girl in question as well as girls in the porn industry overall. Although it was sort of stating the ridiculously obvious, saying things like men make porn for men and all that. Talking about the porn studios producing degrading content blah blah blah. How producers stand to profit from entertainers and talent and such. But okay, it seemed like you cared. Hooray, seemed like you were a dude that got it.

As a consensual and successful adult entertainer, I would argue that there are as many success stories in the porn industry as there are negative stories. You sit here and quote quotes from an anti-pornography sites who take things out of context. Or you quote some drugged out ex prostitute who throws out data with no academic backup to the data's accuracy? I do advocacy for human rights of consensual sex workers full time, your data is fabricated by anti-porn and anti-prostitution academics.

There are porn stars who are bad business women and others who are good business women. The best thing a new starlet could do is invest and save her money wisely. Which is very tough for Transsexuals, especially when she has to spend $50.000-$200,000 just to fund a single transition.

With more and more girls producing their own content, negotiating contracts that get them paid on the back end as well as the front end, its like any business. Either you thrive or you don't. Again, there are adult entertainers who are terrible business women and entertainers that are great business women. Personally as an adult entertainer, I've been trying to start a brand that keeps the profit in the girls pockets so I fully understand what you are saying about opportunists and the like.

Then I still wondered if you really cared in general but, you blow that just by being on this very board. You obviously demonstrate a biased and more than a general opinion of this situation, sharing very private information about this girls educational interests and such only amplifies your obvious unhealthy interest in her. This public behavior demonstrates what appears to be a bit of an obsession you have with a girl that you apparently cant have, probably because you are a married or divorced older guy with a daughter. It also demonstrates you are a man with no integrity or real values.

You speak of your daughter and your wife, and how you would be ashamed if she entered into porn. To your wife, daughter, friends and coworkers, you appear to be this straight and narrow, conservative man with values. Exploiting and empowering prostitutes and porn stars to satisfy your sexual desires behind your wife and daughters back is hardly proof you care about anybody but yourself. Exposing this girls private affairs only further puts her at risk from creeps like yourself. This does not seem to be the behavior of a man that is looking out for a girls best interest. Now you simply come across as an angry guy who got denied and because she's taking a direction you don't like. Sounds a bit controlling to me.

So you live one persona, showing traditional values in the face of your family, friends and coworkers. You demonstrate one persona in public, even teach your daughter traditional values. I bet your daughter would be proud to know daddy is an upstanding citizen as a front, but empowers porn stars and prostitutes by purchasing their services. And to take it a step further, sees chicks with dicks.

I even venture to say that you probably kiss and touch your wife and daughter with the very same lips and hands you use to fondle porn stars and prostitutes. You probably demonstrate the same values you speak until your wife turns her back. then its off to suck some tranny dick. who cares right, shes just a whore.

Making assumptions about how a potential entertainers family will (or will not) support them is just narrow minded and judgmental. You see whores, yet you would never marry one. Just another reason girls like us choose to explore our sexuality at your expense rather than at our own.

You mention people stand to make money off of new girls who enter into Adult entertainment. Well duh, when Motorola hires a new executive to hire talent, isn't the point to turn out a profitable venture? Personally, I don't own a site where other girls are featured. I make not one penny off of girls who enter into the industry other than a very small shooters fee if I take the pictures. I wish I did though. Sometime in the future there will be sites where girls all share the profits from single scenes to sign-ups and renewals and residual back end income of dvd and vod sales etc.

Yes you mention we can explore our sexuality without porn. Yes we can continue to have sex with guys for free that want to be with us behind closed doors but do not have the balls to bring us home to mom and dad or, family and friends, whatever or whoever. The very same guys that didn't want to help us with surgeries, medications, therapy, hair removal blah blah blah blah blah. Yes we could be exploited by men who want to suck our dicks behind closed doors and not contribute to the cost of our transitions. The cost of us becoming true to who we are.

You mention how a girl can be forced out of the porn industry because she is no longer marketable but you fail to mention the tens of thousands of "Enron" type employees who not only lost their careers, 401k and retirement plans and everything they owned, but ended up on the streets. People who invested education, life and career in these "ethical" business executives. There is no guarantee that selling out to corporate america will yield you a better life.

You mention the majority of students who fund college without porn or prostitution. Who are these girls? Are these the same girls that mommy and daddy pay for college for them? The same girls that end up in miserable jobs and resort to marrying a pathetic "mainstream guy" so he can take care of her (the same guy that seeking professional sex behind her back)? Do you realize how many "normal college students" frequently do sexual favors for money, food, shelter or whatever?" Do you realize the next time you tell your daughter "no you cant have money," and she needs something bad enough, she will get it one way or the other?

I believe there is no easy path for an individual who makes the decision to transition. Whatever the cause be it mental or physical, this decision comes at a great cost. Though more and more parents are becoming educated and show a tremendous amount of support for these individuals, in the end the cost of our transitions fall upon ourselves. The cost is far greater than the financial aspect with loss of career, loss of family, loss of friends etc. There are few ways to earn the kind of money it takes successfully accomplish a transition.

You speak of consequences of our actions. You don't acknowledge what we sacrifice to make the step towards transition yet you talk about how our decision to use adult entertainment as a means to fund our transitions and growth are not wise. I don't think at this state in our lives, porn makes a difference in our futures one way or the other. Hello "Stage Names."

Then you speak of what mom or dad would say, or job counselors about the industry. Are these the same career counselors that are miserable at their jobs? The same men that sneak around behind their wives backs to have sex with us? The same miserable, closeted people that you've demonstrated you are in this very discussion thread?

You speak of men judging us in the end. Are these the same men that wouldn't be caught dead with us when we first started out transitions? The same men that patiently wait for us to lose our jobs, family, friends and careers, so we take it upon ourselves to fund our transitions on our own. The same men that want us to fuck TS in secret, while everybody they knows is lead to believe you are this masculine straight guy? The same guy that wants to present us as a normal female to family and friends, with the cock between our legs to be "our little secret?" Most of the men we see prefer to hide in the closet about their desires to be with us. Sucking our dicks in private, then going home to mom and dad or wife and kids, pretending to be whatever it is mainstream society says you should be.

The best thing a girl entering into the adult business can do is create projects that pay you long term and, save your hard earned money!!!


TS Miss Jasmine

Thank you for stating the positive outcomes that may happen as a result of entering a porn career.

I want you to know that I am not ignorant of them, but I have deliberately avoided stating them, since there are many other people like you already luring Ashley in that direction by selling her the positive outcomes. My purpose was to promote the negative consequences, to balance the equation of advice she is receiving.

And it's not just me who thinks so. And if Ashley wanted to find out for herself the pros (no pun intended) and cons she could just search the internet...should I enter the sex industry? I think this website does it in fewer words than I could.
http://www.realsexedfacts.com/women-and-porn-industry-reasons.html


But from a personal standpoint, you are right, I have become enamored with Ashley, to the point which I became a pest of myself and had to withdraw. I love her. But you should be wary, Ashley. I have good intentions, and only an average amount of intellect. Although I made myself a pest I backed off because my heart is in the right place. What could a real stalker do to hurt your reputation, with genuine malevolence, and with more intelligence than me? You should be concerned. The internet is forever. Mwah ha ha hah. (Oh, dammit, evil just doesn't work for me. See? I'm ridiculous when I try that.)

But as a customer? I have nothing to gain from Ashley leaving the sex industry, quite the contrary, I would probably never hear anything ever about her ever again. No more naked pictures or porn starring Ashley. My loss.

And on a porn forum? I never expected these anti-porn, negative consequences to be well received here. I am happy if my words are simply heard.


It is not just whether entering the sex industry is a right or wrong choice, but whether it is a right fit for Ashley, based on what she has already revealed about herself - her character and personality; her past sexual experiences, her future career plans. My concern is that she may end up paying a price which is too high, by selling her long term goals to achieve short term success in porn.


I appreciate your viewpoint as a pornstar, something that I could never offer. What will pornstars think of Ashley entering the sex industry? Well. It's plain to see. Huge acclaim and welcome.

As a sex worker it might seem to you that every person in society is either a prostitute, pornstar or customer, and you might assume that the majority of women are engaged in the sex industry. That simply is not the case. Statistics vary from country to country. Wiki reports in Amsterdam it is one in 35, or 3%. In London, one in 300, or 0.3%, and that is probably close to what the USA would be. Approximately 1 in 30.000 males become transsexuals, so even if a higher percentage of them enter the sex industry to fund their hormone treatement, srs, etc, it is still just a minority, not the norm.

Also, Wiki says a study in 2004 showed that 15% of men have paid for sex at some point in their lives, but that still indicates that prostitution is an anomaly, not the norm. It is not a stretch then, to assume that the 85% of men who have not paid for sex would not knowingly want to be in a long term relationship with a woman who has earned her living from selling her body to men for sex.

I once read a statistic that one in five married men has committed adultery, and at first I was disappointed by that. But then I realised that four out of five married men are faithful. Fidelity is actually the norm. Thankfully I read this while contemplating cheating on my wife and realised that I am not missing out on anything that other men are getting by being faithful.


I am offering my advice as a heterosexual, sexually active, male who has been a past customer of prostitutes and present consumer of porn, and who is the father of a young daughter, and the employer of young people in secular business. These experiences offer a viewpoint that you could never offer.


I think there should be funding in the public and private health system to assist transsexual women with SRS surgery expenses. They shouldn't have to fund their surgery with working in the sex industry. But many transsexual sex workers have no intention of having SRS surgery at all.


You have chosen to counter-attack my arguments by attacking my character. Whenever that happens in an argument, that indicates that you are feeling pain. With what intention do you attack me?

- To drive me away from this porn site so you won't hear my voice? I had already made my decision to retire from this pornsite and have only re-visited to address these concerns. Gone again now after this post. So that's not it.
- To discredit my arguments? They are based on the experiences of others from the sex industry; I am merely restating them. They stand alone. They are the experiences of so many former sex workers. So that's not it.
- To change my behaviour?
ie. To make me stop warning girls like Ashley who are contemplating a career in porn? That could be it. As a pornstar with our own website, I see what your vested interest is. Why you would not want Ashley to end now. But you are not going to stop me from speaking my mind, from offering the alternate view.
- To make me remain faithful to my wife? I am not currently in a relationship. Tragically, my wife passed away in a car accident at Easter. I have not been in a relationship since then. Though I have custody of my daughter fortnightly, she is in her mother's parents care.
- To make me stop visiting prostitutes and watching porn? It has been many years since I visited a prostitute, before my marriage. I'm not in a relationship right now, but I recognize that porn can break down the intimacy within marriage and should I enter another long term relationship, I would disclose my behaviour and discuss her needs and my needs and come to some win-win compromise. But I doubt that MY giving up will make anyone give up their porn careers. But, Sure, OK. You got it.
- Where else is a more appropriate place to address these issues related to the sex industry than on a porn forum.


Exposing this girls private affairs only further puts her at risk from creeps like yourself.

- I have not exposed any facts about Ashley's personal life except what she herself has disclosed on other threads on HA.

Quite the contrary, since I am a fan and the internet makes it so easy to find out fascinating information about celebrities, pornstars and other people you are interested in, I have a lot more personal information that I have learnt about her. But I have purposefully kept it to myself out of respect for her.

(Who's a good boy then? Where's my medal? Wait, I need to grow a chest to pin it on. Be right back. I'm joking, and silly, and REALLY weird, and I digress. Soz.)


I make not one penny off of girls who enter into the industry other than a very small shooters fee if I take the pictures.

- Hmmm-mmmm. And the very small shooters fee is less than, or more than, one penny? That's a contradiction, isn't it. You can't say you don't make money from girls like Ashley, nor can you say that posting their pics on your website and telling people like HA members does not bring massive attention to both you and your website. Ashley = $$$


As for what I would advise my daughter if she said to me she thought she should enter the sex industry because she can't afford to buy something? Come on!!! Be serious.


I don't know you, but I feel your pain. Hope I wasn't the cause of them. If so I apologize for the way I've expressed things, but I stand by the facts and arguments I've said.

There was a lot of emotional bitterness and counter-judgements expressed in your post here. But I can't see you've raised any other new arguments to redress, so I'll leave the rest of your emotional diatribe to speak for itself.


I am not assuming I know what is best for Ashley, but neither do you. Only she can decide that. I just hope I have given her enough of the other side of the issue to reconsider in her decisions.

Love and kisses, Jasmine. Really.

As always, all the best, Ashley.

[Stoked]

It is not just whether entering the sex industry is a right or wrong choice, but whether it is a right fit for Ashley, based on what she has already revealed about herself - Her character and personality; Her past experiences. Her future plans. My concern is that she may end up paying a price which is too high, by selling her long term goals to achieve short term success in porn.

This is exactly right. Not to mention she is 18, lonely, depressed and has low self-esteem. A classic combination for a young girl to be pimped out. Coming to HA porn board is quite possibly the worst move she could have made. This board cares little for the lives of these girls other than their own selfish interests. The first things they say to a new girls posting is how beautiful she is, oh by the way, let us see your cock. False adulation which leads to more isolation.

And MissJasmine is not the friend Ashley thinks she is. Real friends prop people up to be better than they were, advance their lives, and help them achieve the greater goals of life.

We each have a choice of people we let into our lives. Those who help us better ourselves or those who want to keep us down at their level so they can feel better about themselves.

I advocate the former and like you, hope Ashley makes the right choices.

[Dino Velvet]

nice cock and cute feet too

http://www.hungangels.com/board/files/ah00183_111.jpg

That's one frisky funhole!

[Stoked]

nice cock and cute feet too


That's one frisky funhole!

Thank you for making my point DinoVelvet.

This is how they see you, "a frisky funhole".

Ashley the Frisky Funhole... Are you not more than that?

[bte]

LoL @ the Frisky Funhole comment. I say that everyone makes mistakes. It's better that she gets into business and finds out that she made a mistake instead of always thinking "What if I would have went into the porn business?" Eclipsemint, Jasmine and Stroked bring up good points, but its up to Ashley. Gotta make mistakes in order to learn how to live life.

[Stoked]

It's better that she gets into business and finds out that she made a mistake instead of always thinking "What if I would have went into the porn business?

Seriously??? Your joking right?

[bte]

I highly doubt Ashley is going to listen to any of the guys on the board. She will just disregard everything that you have to say, even if you have a point. Unless you are girl that was formerly in the porn business, she will probably think you will not understand what its like to be in her shoes. I am not saying you are wrong. I am just saying you won't be able to change her mind.

[AmyDaly]

Wow is all that I can say. Hot body she's perfect. She's amazing and so is Amy. I would like to see them as a Hardcore duo.

I don't care what these guys are saying. I would like to see this too. :lol:

[Dino Velvet]

Wow is all that I can say. Hot body she's perfect. She's amazing and so is Amy. I would like to see them as a Hardcore duo.

I don't care what these guys are saying. I would like to see this too. :lol:

Funhole on funhole action works for me. Do it but don't get started until I can run to the icebox for another cold beer and put my free hand back on my wiener.

[eclipsemint]

double post. soz, everybody, I was trying to edit my other post.

[blackrob]

Can't help it I like this pose as well...

yummy

[rockabilly]

We are defined by the choices we make whether good or bad.
But like bte and others have said you live and you learn. I seriously wish Ashley all the best in whatever path she chooses.

[CaptainGeech]

Wow. Normally when I find a thread that interests me I read all of the posts. But some of the more recent ones are just WAY TOO FUCKING LONG. Stalkeristic. :screwy

[drock]

Can't help it I like this pose as well...

damn she's hot and I love that pose too the only thing is it would have been a little bit better if her ass hole was showing.

[drock]

I don't care what these guys are saying. I would like to see this too. :lol:


Add me to that list yall need to make it happen!

[sdman]

Can't help it I like this pose as well...


yes I wish that cock was in my mouth.

[sdman]

I think she's even more feminine than hazel tucker what a beautiful girl.

[amanda_m]

crotch rocket?

[m4u2008]

Ashley has to be in the top 5 best looking girls around right now, gorgeous.

[UncutCanadian]

This thread oozes with soo much controversy and opinions..... As previously stated bottom line Everybody chooses there own path, video games and music do not make killers... We all make our own choices regardeless of opinions... Best of Luck Ashley ! You are amazing and you and only you writes your history !

[eclipsemint]

What does your dad think of your porn career, Ashley? Is he proud? He looks so happy in those photos of your graduation. Would he still be smiling so proudly now? Ashley, Ashley, what are you doing! What of your dreams? Oh, Ashley.

[JoePitt]

What does your dad think of your porn career, Ashley? Is he proud? He looks so happy in those photos of your graduation. Would he still be smiling so proudly now? Ashley, Ashley, what are you doing! What of your dreams? Oh, Ashley.

Really, just get over yourself. Your longwinded rants had absolutely no effect on her previously. She probably never even read them. You're not her father, you're just someone who thinks he knows what's best for her. Do you like banging your head on the wall repeatedly, Quixote?

[eclipsemint]

No, Quixote was the guy who jousted at windmills, he didn't bang his head on the wall, unless he missed the windmill of course!

What the fuck is your point, JoePitt? I have a right to my opinion just as much as you do, buddy. At least mine is based on consideration and affection for Ashley. You just don't want to lose out on your petty little wank pics, you moron! So fuck off unless you have something intelligent to add to the debate, idiot!

[JoePitt]

No, Quixote was the guy who jousted at windmills, he didn't bang his head on the wall, unless he missed the windmill of course!

What the fuck is your point, JoePitt? I have a right to my opinion just as much as you do, buddy. At least mine is based on consideration and affection for Ashley. You just don't want to lose out on your petty little wank pics, you moron! So fuck off unless you have something intelligent to add to the debate, idiot!

My point is to get a hobby. Now who's telling who that they don't have the right to have an opinion, hypocrite. BTW, I've met Ashely in real life and she's much more well adjusted than a pissant Internet White Knight like you.

[eclipsemint]

Hobby? You mean like surfing transsexual porn forums and posting your opinions? Pot. Kettle. Black.

Oh, really? You've met Ashley. I seriously doubt it. An empty boast to make on a forum she rarely visits. Well adjusted, huh? Then why would she hang around with a creep like you?

Internet White Knight. Thanks!! I like it. Of course, you realise that make you the black knight. The bad guy. Of course you do. Deep down. You know.

[JoePitt]

LOL I know this is all very serious stuff to you but you need to chill out bro. We met through a mutual friend. She lives in the same city as I do, not 10,000 miles away like you do. Well, if you only have the mental capacity to see everything in black and white, then I guess I am the black knight.

So I'm a bad guy for letting somebody live their life how they want to? Fine by me. I'd rather be a bad guy than a self-righteous prick like you.

[mfmirofai]

Right! And I need to be present as a witness to make sure it actually happened!lol

[mfmirofai]

I don't care what these guys are saying. I would like to see this too. :lol:

Right! and I need to be there as a witness to make sure it actually happens. lol:jawdrop

[Herkyalert]

Ashley is freaking sexy as hell.

[luccas]

she is sexy as hell, love you Ashley keep it on , you are a marriable dream girl

[TsVanessa69]

I have hung out with Ashley and i must say she is a sweet kid. I'm also happy to say she is going to school as well!!!

[sdman]

Can't help it I like this pose as well...


id love to milk that one dry

[Cutieapol]

What does your dad think of your porn career, Ashley? Is he proud? He looks so happy in those photos of your graduation. Would he still be smiling so proudly now? Ashley, Ashley, what are you doing! What of your dreams? Oh, Ashley.

Wow. Creepy

[excalibur212]

I heard she passed away, was there any truth to this?

[saifan]

I heard she passed away, was there any truth to this?

She is still Tweeting...
https://twitter.com/No1FantasyGirl

[GroobySteven]

I heard she passed away, was there any truth to this?

I've never heard that.

[excalibur212]

She is still Tweeting...
https://twitter.com/No1FantasyGirl

Are you sure thats her???

[saifan]

Are you sure thats her???

I have no reason to believe that it isn't. She stopped using Ashley George quite awhile ago.

[excalibur212]

She is still Tweeting...
https://twitter.com/No1FantasyGirl


I have no reason to believe that it isn't. She stopped using Ashley George quite awhile ago.

I see thanks for the update, her new look is quite awful compared to how she used to look, no wonder people think she's dissapeared/died, was just reading a few comments on xvideo, lol i guess just bad rumors going around.

[ed_jaxon]

I spoke to her briefly last week. She's doing fine.

[dreamon]

I heard she passed away, was there any truth to this?
not true. she has been posting on twitter today even