Post-op Tgals and Hygiene issues

[sizeman]

Hey folks, i have been with at least 10 Post-ops in my life, all in The USA and one thing in common they share, is the repulsive odor coming out of their man made pussy....Why do u folks think is the main reason for that? i mean it cannot solely be a hygiene issue, i mean all 10 of them???and they were equally hot as hell.

Does it have to do with the surgery and its after effects??any Post-ops in here who can explain that oddity??? I mean it can be quiet a let down to see some gorgeous Tgals and be highly disappointed as u experience this atrocious odor.

All the Post-ops i have been with in BKK's infamous King Castle, smelt great, which furthermore adds to my stupefaction as to why is this phenomenon so common in the US???

[MacShreach]

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[Vicki Richter]

Hey folks, i have been with at least 10 Post-ops in my life, all in The USA and one thing in common they share, is the repulsive odor coming out of their man made pussy....Why do u folks think is the main reason for that? i mean it cannot solely be a hygiene issue, i mean all 10 of them???and they were equally hot as hell.

Does it have to do with the surgery and its after effects??any Post-ops in here who can explain that oddity??? I mean it can be quiet a let down to see some gorgeous Tgals and be highly disappointed as u experience this atrocious odor.

All the Post-ops i have been with in BKK's infamous King Castle, smelt great, which furthermore adds to my stupefaction as to why is this phenomenon so common in the US???

You know I heard this too. A friend put her fingers in a post op girls coochie at a club and she said it was the most disgusting smell ever.

I honestly think they think it smells more real or something so they let it build cheese. That is the problem with girls who have never really been with or around real girls in their lives becoming girls. They all hear the "tuna" and other comments and think that's what they want to smell like. It's like, "here, look at how real I smell". NOT!

I think a nasty smelling pussy or that white stuff that comes out sometimes is about the grossest thing about women. I'm a huge fan of the female body.

While I'm at it, I've had more than one guy who has dated several TS tell me that most TS take the absolute worst qualities of women (the ones you see on soap operas and Desperate Housewives) and emulate them. I often wonder if this is because their only exposure to GG's is through the media. I have more GG friends than TS and I think this is important to knowing how women actually are.

[Gus The Dagger]

Hey folks, i have been with at least 10 Post-ops in my life, all in The USA and one thing in common they share, is the repulsive odor coming out of their man made pussy....Why do u folks think is the main reason for that? i mean it cannot solely be a hygiene issue, i mean all 10 of them???and they were equally hot as hell.

Does it have to do with the surgery and its after effects??any Post-ops in here who can explain that oddity??? I mean it can be quiet a let down to see some gorgeous Tgals and be highly disappointed as u experience this atrocious odor.

All the Post-ops i have been with in BKK's infamous King Castle, smelt great, which furthermore adds to my stupefaction as to why is this phenomenon so common in the US???

You know I heard this too. A friend put her fingers in a post op girls coochie at a club and she said it was the most disgusting smell ever.

I honestly think they think it smells more real or something so they let it build cheese. That is the problem with girls who have never really been with or around real girls in their lives becoming girls. They all hear the "tuna" and other comments and think that's what they want to smell like. It's like, "here, look at how real I smell". NOT!

I think a nasty smelling pussy or that white stuff that comes out sometimes is about the grossest thing about women. I'm a huge fan of the female body.

While I'm at it, I've had more than one guy who has dated several TS tell me that most TS take the absolute worst qualities of women (the ones you see on soap operas and Desperate Housewives) and emulate them. I often wonder if this is because their only exposure to GG's is through the media. I have more GG friends than TS and I think this is important to knowing how women actually are.

What is this white stuff?

[Legend]

Is this a joke topic cause im gonna be sick!

[MacShreach]

Hey folks, i have been with at least 10 Post-ops in my life, all in The USA and one thing in common they share, is the repulsive odor coming out of their man made pussy....Why do u folks think is the main reason for that? i mean it cannot solely be a hygiene issue, i mean all 10 of them???and they were equally hot as hell.

Does it have to do with the surgery and its after effects??any Post-ops in here who can explain that oddity??? I mean it can be quiet a let down to see some gorgeous Tgals and be highly disappointed as u experience this atrocious odor.

All the Post-ops i have been with in BKK's infamous King Castle, smelt great, which furthermore adds to my stupefaction as to why is this phenomenon so common in the US???

You know I heard this too. A friend put her fingers in a post op girls coochie at a club and she said it was the most disgusting smell ever.

I honestly think they think it smells more real or something so they let it build cheese. That is the problem with girls who have never really been with or around real girls in their lives becoming girls. They all hear the "tuna" and other comments and think that's what they want to smell like. It's like, "here, look at how real I smell". NOT!

I think a nasty smelling pussy or that white stuff that comes out sometimes is about the grossest thing about women. I'm a huge fan of the female body.

While I'm at it, I've had more than one guy who has dated several TS tell me that most TS take the absolute worst qualities of women (the ones you see on soap operas and Desperate Housewives) and emulate them. I often wonder if this is because their only exposure to GG's is through the media. I have more GG friends than TS and I think this is important to knowing how women actually are.

What is this white stuff?

Aahh, the white stuff.......The French call it cyprine, and so far I have not found another language with a name for it. Any Spanish or Italian speakers out there please clue me up.

The white stuff is very cool when it is FRESH, Vicki. It smells good, it tastes good and if Castrol could replicate its lubricative properties..........

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

Pungent odor is a reality most Post-Op faces and can only be caused by irresponsible and poor hygiene practices. I have 3 post op friends who are too conscious about that and never had heard of any guys they been with nor dated complain about it. Their secret? Its to douche their man made punani with table spoon vinegar and the rest water. Vinegar is PH balanced therefore rids and cleanse the neo vagina of its smell as it cleans it. :wink:

~Kisses.

HTG

[ANIYAH]

I though when "white stuff " Came out it was called "Yeast" as in and infection ??? I could be wrong ..Please correct me if i am ?

[MacShreach]

I though when "white stuff " Came out it was called "Yeast" as in and infection ??? I could be wrong ..Please correct me if i am ?

You is. Yeast infections do produce a discharge but the white stuff from a healthy twat (when stimulated) is quite normal. Some girls produce (a lot) more than others.

[MixedJohn]

Yeah if you see anything like that coming out it's time to run!

[lahabra1976]

yea, this white stuff is no big deal. I tend to notice it is most abundant right after a lady has had her period and is excited. After a few days it goes away so that is the best time to have oral sex.

But back to the topic, I think probably part of the problem with this bad smell on post-op vaginas is that these women are used to having a vagina so don't know they have to clean it often. GG had it all their life and know how to keep it clean. They got to learn to use stuff like dulce solution.

[BlackAdder]

Nice....so i was hungry then looked at allanahs operation pics.......then i was hungry and read Vickis post...


Thanks, now im just going to have to starve tonight.



That white stuff on normal girls is lubricant...I never really noticed it until I went with this hot black girl for a few years...She produced quite a bit at times so Im thinking it is linked to hormonal/excitement periods.

[la2bkk]

Apparently many of you have never been in a men's locker room. Personal hygiene issues aren't limited to post op T-Girls.

[Shining Star]

Natural women's vaginas are self cleansing in the fact they are lined with mucosa. Yes, many women do other things such as using douches and or various other products, but these can cause more harm than good if they interfere with the natural pH balance.

A post op's vagina is basically a surgical wound. What one has is skin pushed inside the body. Confined within a warm most area, "things" will grow. Also since the lining is skin and not mucosa, a post op's vagina will not self clean, and must be cleansed daily (just like bathing), and after "strenous" physical activity. It goes without saying of couse after sex, douche must be used to clean inside the vagina otherwise semen and other fluids will remain and fester.

There is the final problem if the skin used inside the post op's vagina and for the labia did not have all the hair removed.

Know several post ops and most said they felt "womanly" after having the op and going to buy douches and stuff, but after awhile the novelty wore off, those vaginas require mucho maintainence in terms of dilation and cleansing.

CC

[slinky]

Sounds like buying a boat.

[BlackAdder]

I know im not the only guy here who feels this way, but id be STRONGLY opposed if my girlfriend wanted to go post op, and reading these posts just convince me even further.

[GroobySteven]

It goes without saying that the majority of guys on a site like this or surfing for TS porn/erotica sites are primarily interested in cock on a girl (although never ceases to amaze me how many cute girls with small cocks are looked over for monsters with big cocks...but we'll leave that for another story).
That's the fetish - a girl with a cock, so it's pretty obvious how most of you will feel about a girl being post-op.
However, get some facts straight and don't pollute the topic with your own wishes of why a girl shouldn't go post-op, they're doing it for themselves, not for you and most post-op tgirls I know are very happy they're post-op, even after the "novelty" has worn off.
I think a statement like "I'd be strongly opposed to my girlfriend wanting to go post-op" says volumes about you and little about how you're meant to care for the wellbeing, both physically and mentally of being with someone you love. If it's just the genitalia you're interested in....well let's not go there again, huh?
If a TS wants to go post-op, then most likely it's the end result of years of wanting it, saving money, going through hassles and finally becoming the person she's wanted to be - not for you, not to be a porn star but to be herself. Good for her.
seanchai

[BlackAdder]

Well seems ive read differently here Seanchai, about the many girls who have complications or ARENT happy after the novelty has worn off.

Hey thats my opinion and the wonderful thing about the internet.....

If you think you can judge my ability to care for someone else from that post though, your a mental midget.

[Dina Delicious]

I read these threads about Post op girls and it makes me crazy
so many of you know nothing about being a post op
guess what i do
i have been a post op for over 7 years and the novelty of being who i a has not worn off nor will it ever
having genital reconstruction surgery is a very PERSONAL decision it is not for everyone
i was very young when i underwent my srs and i never looked back i have a very beautiful vagina that i take very good care off and pride in its mine its a part of who i am and who i always was meant to be
i also dont have an inverted penis i went for a diffrent procedure that is much more expensive dangerous and invasive idont define myself by what is between my legs i define myself by whats between my ears my brain
so what i dont have a dick for you too suck
guess what I DONT WANT A DICK FOR YOU TOO SUCK
its that simple
oh by the way i just decided that if anyone ever comes over to me and says what a shame that i had my srs i dont care where i am im going to slap them across there face
this is my life
im not living for others enjoyment or sexual fetishes im living for me
i may not have everything but i have self respect and thats all i feel i really need
im sorry if this is coming off strong but i feel there needed to be a voice on this issue that knows something about it
Dna Marie

[GroobySteven]

Well seems ive read differently here Seanchai, about the many girls who have complications or ARENT happy after the novelty has worn off.

Hey thats my opinion and the wonderful thing about the internet.....

If you think you can judge my ability to care for someone else from that post though, your a mental midget.

You've read comments from people who are against SRS because they like their girls with a cock on them, not from informed people who have more experience. If that's what you your base intelligence on then I guess I really am a "mental midget" next to you.
seanchai

[Bigguy]

i have been a post op for over 7 years and the novelty of being who i a has not worn off nor will it ever
I like post-ops as much as any other transsexual (or gg for that matter) I just think some of the guys who don't like it are more vocal about it.


i went for a diffrent procedure
I didn't know there was a different procedure. What is it and does that one entail?

Just curious if this isn't getting to personal for you, were you the type of gal that hated her penis before the surgery? I've talked to a few girls like this and they would never use their penis sexually in any way. Then there are some that have before surgery and I think it may give them a little insight of how a man may feel during sex.


oh by the way i just decided that if anyone ever comes over to me and says what a shame that i had my srs i dont care where i am im going to slap them across there face

I agreee with you 100% there, that is just stupid for anybody to think that way.

[BlackAdder]

Do you honestly think that theres are the only comments I base my opinion on???? Ive actually gone off this board(yes, it is possible) to research post-operative procedures, once I actually knew what they were...Ive ready plenty of case studies surfing around the net, about the ones that went wrong and the girls who get suicidally depressed and wished they could go back....

Can the attitude Dina, I was only saying what *I* would say if my SO suggested she wanted to go post-op.....

We dont give a fuck about what youve done with your life; Live it like you want....Just like I live mine:)

[nyc curious]

Could the awful smell be attributed to a smegma build up, or would this no longer be an issue after SRS?

Also a one question slightly off topic. After an SRS operation, is it still possible to have a prostate orgasm?

[Saintrose]

I think a nasty smelling pussy or that white stuff that comes out sometimes is about the grossest thing about women. I'm a huge fan of the female body.


I co-sign that statement !

When was in college ....went on a trip and we were staying at a marriot hotel. Went a few doors down to check on some girls in another room. Knocked on the door and as it opened the most vile repugnant stench hit me.
So the girl who answers the door sees the obvious distress on my face. She steps out into the hallway and explains...Turns out one of the girls wasn't maintaining herself...yeast infection I guess ?... and the entire room smelt like some type of dead fish. Needless to say I didn't enter their room that weekend !

[Saintrose]

I think a statement like "I'd be strongly opposed to my girlfriend wanting to go post-op" says volumes about you and little about how you're meant to care for the wellbeing, both physically and mentally of being with someone you love. If it's just the genitalia you're interested in....well let's not go there again, huh?
If a TS wants to go post-op, then most likely it's the end result of years of wanting it, saving money, going through hassles and finally becoming the person she's wanted to be - not for you, not to be a porn star but to be herself. Good for her.
seanchai


Very well said !!!

[Saintrose]

oh by the way i just decided that if anyone ever comes over to me and says what a shame that i had my srs i dont care where i am im going to slap them across there face
this is my life
im not living for others enjoyment or sexual fetishes im living for me
i may not have everything but i have self respect and thats all i feel i really need
im sorry if this is coming off strong but i feel there needed to be a voice on this issue that knows something about it
Dna Marie

Dina: Anyone that ignorant an insensitive probably isn't worth the energy to slap !

It definitely is a personal choice. As a man I can't imagine a day without my penis. No, it doesn't totally define me or my manhood but it is a part of me and who I am. Similarly I guess for some mtf transgenders their penis is no more than extra appendage or foreign object. Again having srs doesn't totally define who they are...but if it in anyway makes them feel more natural, comfortable and in tune with themselves then more power to them !

My gurl and I have discussed it and it seems as though..she is definitely leaning towards having srs. I've grown to really care for her as a human being....not for what is between her legs ! Regardless of her decision I'll support her 100%

[Dina Delicious]

BLACK ADDER
none of my comments were geared to you
they were statements on how I felt
so maybe the ine that need to can the attitutde is you
oh and by the way i would love some links to the case studies i would find that very interesting
and i dont give a fuck about how you live your life either

Dina Marie

[AllanahStarrNYC]

i hate it when guys on here and girls are always talking about depressed post ops- who kill themselves

well - since being in this community for about 12 years- all the post op women i know were extremely happy with their decision and not one has killed herslef. i only know one girl who died and it was an od- in those 12 years i have known far more pre ops who have dies from ods, suicide, aids, or were killed.

its quite obvious most men on here like pre op-s hence "hung angels"

i personally will eventually have srs as well-
and trust me when the time comes- it is going to be for ME-
if i have a boyfriend and he leaves because i am having srs - well then he wanted the cock and not me as a person.

[hondarobot]

This damn SRS thing.

A lot of times Tgirls just don't get where some of us "regular" guys are coming from. I don't give a damn if a girl has a vagina or a shecock or a fuckin biomechanic time machine on her crotch (the time machine would be pretty cool though). It's her choice what she want's to do obviously, but there is the Loss Of Orgasm thing that any guy who likes a girl would be obligated to address. I don't want to see any girl do something that she would deeply regret in the future, and can't be reversed.

Yeah, post-ops say it the best thing they ever did. What would anyone expect them to say after something like that?

Lots of people have argued that post-op girls can still cum. How do you actually proove that? And if it's not true, then I think the the operation in most cases would be bad. Cosmetics vs orgasm just doesn't balance out in my opinion (and I realize it's more complicated then that, but I'm breaking things down to the basics). It's "finishing the process" vs "drawing a line".

I know when a GG has orgasmed because of profound contractions of her vagina and increased lubrication (most other factors can be faked). Neither of those, from what I've heard, take place with a post-op.

I realize many girls hate having a shecock, can't live with it, and those girls should correct that. But many times that's not the case. If she just wants to "fit in" with other girls, that's just goofy.

I don't want to see anyone do something that would rob them of the ability to orgasm. Someday SRS may be improved to allow such a thing, but I really just don't believe it's possible right now.

DISCLAIMER: I realize we've tossed this topic around like a beach ball many times, but I'm lashing myself to the main mast and riding out the storm until the ship sinks on this one. I think in most cases it is a bad idea given the medical science available at the moment.

[hwbs]

well if u really love the girl and respect her feeleings......nuff said :idea:

[hondarobot]

If a guy loves and respects a girl, he gives her his honest opinion.

If she doesn't like it. . .he gets whacked on the head and sleeps on the couch for the night. And the next morning is real fun as well. . .

That's just life.


:?

[blackgrendel]

Damn this post is making me feel kinda whooosie!

[BlackAdder]

Its a bad idea period. You want to research it? Go ahead, google Psychological effects of post vaginoplasty surgery....It may take you a week or so but theres a, and no offence here Allanah, HIDEOUS amout of complications and negative psychological effects that can go on after said surgery......Nerve damage is almost irreparrable, theres been a few cases where someone has regained some feeling, but thats the exception not the rule, and its common in this kind of surgery....Im not going to get into it all, since its all out there for people to read.


"I think in most cases it is a bad idea given the medical science available at the moment."


Thats exactly it; When medical science can make you a REAL vagina instead of an open wound, then Im all cool with it.....At that point they'll more then likely also be able to make you ovaries and a uterus as well...And im all for that too.

Until then its a WOUND, that only bears passing resemblance to a GG's genitals. It doesnt function like a real vagina at all as Honda pointed out, now does it??

Call a spade a spade and if you girls want to chop yourselves up be my guest...Ill put you in the same category that I do the body mod people that split there penises though and otherwise mangle themselves.......And thats NOT a trait I want in MY S.O. Thats my feelings on the matter, too which Im entirely entitled to.

Then again, could be im full of shit lol, but the evidence is too the contrary......Your mileage may vary of course.

[hondarobot]

I usually fly off the handle every time this SRS subject is brought up, and I probably shouldn't. My opinion on the subject is not that well researched.

Here's what I really think:

I know all girls want a vagina, a nice little pretty pink pussy. I don't think that's something that is possible to make right now given current limitations. Once it becomes possible, I'll get you that pussy and it will be perfect and functional and fun. But right now, it's something on the horizon, those lazy scientists haven't figured everything out just yet.

This is something that will be possible some day, but at the moment there's still a lot of details to be figured out.

I'm just saying. . .

[AllanahStarrNYC]

wow

sometimes u guys really amaze me

it's funny HOW you SEEM to KNOW more about us than we do

how ignorant to call a srs surgery a wound- at one point i thought u were actually nice and intelligent but REALLY. how disrespectful and ignorant.

[hondarobot]

Oh please, Allanah, we guys don't know shit and we realize that. You girls just expect us to understand things while overlooking the fact that we're basically pretty dumb.

I freely admit I don't understand SRS, how could I or any guy?

It's a tricky subject but worthy of discussion without anyone taking offense.

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

Until then its a WOUND, that only bears passing resemblance to a GG's genitals. It doesnt function like a real vagina at all as Honda pointed out, now does it??



for the record I tried to ignore this topic until I was verbally assaulted at the club for not inputting towards it..............

I've only been with ONE lady that had the SRS procedure. I personally know of 2, the one I have been with, and another one who I've seen at the club. I know about the one from the club because she had the procedure done for a man who wanted her to get it and once she got it, he dumped her....... so "NO" not every woman gets it for themselves, some don't think out what if scenarios to completion. Nonetheless I hope she is happy.

In regards to the lady I've been with that had the procedure, fellas I have to be completely honest with you, it was a pleasure actually having a vagina my dick actually fit in completely........... that is a RARE occurance [which brings me to another point. I have nothing against anyone on this board (well except for Hawkgirl) but some of you seem to have a "I need to see big cock on a dame" complex going which makes me think maybe you're lacking in the "penis" department. Not that it's any of my business but let's be honest......... you will rarely hear an endowed individual complain about a pussy................]
as far as smell, I didn't smell anything, which I think is the best you can ask for, no potpourri scents, no victoria's secret thong after 6 hours at the strip club scent, no George Bush Jr. sweaty draws while lying during his campaign..............nothing
the experience was overall very wonderful and I'd go without hesitation to bang the hell out of that pussy (not wound) again.........

[hwbs]

alot of T.I.T going on in this topic , lmfao..............

[chefmike]

There goes JWBL braggin about his dick again...or playin "the dick card" , as Johnnie Cochran might have put it....

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

There goes JWBL braggin about his dick again...or playin "the dick card" , as Johnnie Cochran might have put it....

fuck you, lol

I NEVER brag on myself at all.................................the women do that for me

muhfucka

[partlycloudy]

http://images5.theimagehosting.com/magnum.3.jpg (http://www.theimagehosting.com)

[hwbs]

33 percent bigger than regular magnums, lmao

[BlackAdder]

I call it like I see it Allanah, very sorry if you think its being disrespectful; that may be possible but im not one of those people that crave respect. Its CERTAINLY NOT ignorant....I feel very confident with what I read up on the procedures last night in saying that its a body modification that never heals properly.

I even read the grizzly details of dilation, nerve damage, maintenance... etc etc and maintenance....all things you do with wounds. You stick to your euphimism's...ill stick to what the medical world would call it....

Science is good, but not good enough in this regard. 10-20 years from now, who knows.

[AllanahStarrNYC]

hmm- what are you talking about-

of course it heals like any surgery- it does not stay an open wound
anyway here is some interesting info.


Abstract: First physiologic study of orgasm in postoperative male-to-female transsexuals.
Birnbaum, R.

Ph.D. dissertation, The Institute for Advanced Study of Human Sexuality, San Francisco (Oct. 18, 2000).
Contact: poststudy@aol.com

Objective: To determine whether data generated by a physiological sex research study would support the hypothesis that orgasmic capacity can be retained and/or gained after sex reassignment surgery in the postoperative male-to-female transsexual. Design: Controlled laboratory-based analysis of responses to masturbation to orgasm(s). Setting: A mobile sex research laboratory setup predominately in two central San Francisco locations. Participants: A volunteer sample of eleven postoperative male-to-female transsexuals as well as twenty-nine control group participants divided into five groups: eleven nontranssexual males, nine nontranssexual females, five preoperative male-to-female transsexuals, two intersexual people and two female-to-male transsexuals. These totals include one participant who joined the study first as a preoperative male-to-female participant, and returned again later as a postoperative male-to-female participant. Intervention: One protocol including measurements of preorgasmic, orgasmic, and postorgasmic responses; response time determined per individual. Dependent variables: Pressure waveform patterns produced by involuntary contractions of the anal musculature, heart rate, and blood pressure. Results: Of the eleven postoperative male-to-female study group participants, eight self-reported orgasm and three of these eight produced orgasmic contraction episodes similar to those produced by control group participants in this study and subjects in previous physiological studies of orgasm. Furthermore, no statistically significant differences were found between contraction patterns produced by study and control groups in terms of duration of orgasmic contractions, intraorgasmic amplitude changes, number of orgasmic contractions per series, mean intervals between the first four contractions, mean intervals between all contractions, or orgasmic heart rates. Conclusions: Data from this study strongly support the hypothesis that orgasmic capacity can be retained and/or gained after sex reassignment surgery in the postoperative male-to-female transsexual. However, given the limited sample sizes, projected percentages of orgasmic capacity in the postoperative male-to-female transsexual population are unavailable

[AllanahStarrNYC]

and for those of you that are so misguided and ignorant towards srs

http://ai.eecs.umich.edu/people/conway/TS/SRS.html