PDA

View Full Version : Obama wins Nobel Peace Prize!



cookiepuss
10-09-2009, 01:03 PM
Congrats! :D


forgot link: http://www.voanews.com/english/2009-10-09-voa6.cfm

timxxx
10-09-2009, 01:49 PM
For what ?

JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel
10-09-2009, 01:53 PM
For what ?

OSLO – President Barack Obama won the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize on Friday in a stunning decision designed to encourage his initiatives to reduce nuclear arms, ease tensions with the Muslim world and stress diplomacy and cooperation rather than unilateralism.

Way to go Barack!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SOUL POWER

2009AD
10-09-2009, 01:57 PM
I voted for the guy, but this seems a bit premature. He's barely into the 9th month of a 48 month presidency! Talk about jumping the gun!

sugdaddie69
10-09-2009, 02:08 PM
Congrats

tslover185
10-09-2009, 02:18 PM
For What is right, what has he really done. Maybe after 2 years of his term if things in the world change but after 9 months, come on.

DC
10-09-2009, 02:31 PM
What a joke...

Magic8Ball
10-09-2009, 02:46 PM
That's insane. And reading why it was givenI'm that much more frustrated about it..."In annoucing the award Friday, the Nobel committee said it had attached special importance to the president's vision of and work for "a world without nuclear weapons."

What work? If it's not the work, then it must be the "vision". I can't remember the last time I got a prize for wanting something.

I disagree with him strongly on many things, and would be completely for him getting this prize AFTER he's put in substantial work for it.

timxxx
10-09-2009, 02:50 PM
Giving Barack Obama the Nobel Peace Prize is a joke,just cynical bandwagon jumping by the Nobel committee.
But considering they give the war criminal Kissinger one it's not that surprising.

I hope he actually does something to deserve a Nobel Peace Prize.

Rogers
10-09-2009, 03:07 PM
For what ?

A few things another Nobel Prize Winner once said:

"To accomplish great things, we must not only act but also dream, not only plan but also believe."

"Nine tenths of education is encouragement."

2009AD
10-09-2009, 03:24 PM
It's been reported that Obama is a finalist and may win the following:

Playboy Playmate of the year.

American Idol 2010.

Survivor.

The Miss America crown.

AVN's Best Porn Star Award.

HA's "What Man Would You Most Like To See as a TG?" poll.

The Biggest Loser.

The next Papal election.

FigJam
10-09-2009, 03:31 PM
An absurdity that makes a farce of the Peace Prize.

It's like giving a Nobel Prize in Medicine to someone who runs around giving speeches saying how much they want to cure cancer, even though they have done nothing to do so.

Prizes like this should be for real accomplishments, not mere aspirations and rhetoric.

SammiValentine
10-09-2009, 03:36 PM
cue much rejoicing by somalian pirates

InHouston
10-09-2009, 03:37 PM
For what ?

No shit! For striving for nuclear disarmament, while the world's thug regimes are striving for nuclear armament.

Silcc69
10-09-2009, 04:17 PM
The Nobel committee praised Obama’s creation of “a new climate in international politics” and said he had returned multilateral diplomacy and institutions like the U.N. to the center of the world stage. The plaudit appeared to be a slap at President George W. Bush from a committee that harshly criticized Obama’s predecessor for resorting to largely unilateral military action in the wake of the Sept. 11 terror attacks.

The committee chairman said after awarding the 2002 prize to former Democratic President Jimmy Carter, for his mediation in international conflicts, that it should be seen as a “kick in the leg” to the Bush administration’s hard line in the buildup to the Iraq war.


Five years later, the committee honored Bush’s adversary in the 2000 presidential election, Al Gore, for his campaign to raise awareness about global warming.

And the recurring these seems to be let's spite Bush in spite of our integrity.

giovanni_hotel
10-09-2009, 04:24 PM
It was a polical decision by the Nobel committee, clearly. They may live to regret their premature selection since it appears Obama may be forced to engage in military action against Iran to thwart their continued covert nuclear weapons program.

Barack's gonna drop some bombs on somebody before he leaves office, hope that Nobel medal doesn't become a noose around his neck.

Rogers
10-09-2009, 04:47 PM
The plaudit appeared to be a slap at President George W. Bush...

Like this one? :lol:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NuyzA5dT5Kk

Rogers
10-09-2009, 04:55 PM
Barack's gonna drop some bombs on somebody before he leaves office...

Not sure about any President's that haven't done that since W.W.II.. It's the nature of the beast I'm afraid.

FigJam
10-09-2009, 05:27 PM
Even the London Times thinks Obama's Peace Prize is absurd:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article6867711.ece

Some excerpts:

"...the prize risks looking preposterous in its claims, patronising in its intentions and demeaning in its attempt to build up a man who has barely begun his period in office, let alone achieved any tangible outcome for peace."

"The committee said today that he had “captured the world’s attention”. It is certainly true that his energy and aspirations have dazzled many of his supporters. Sadly, it seems they have so bedazzled the Norwegians that they can no longer separate hopes from achievement. The achievements of all previous winners have been diminished. "

AllanahStarrNYC
10-09-2009, 06:01 PM
"Members of the Norwegian Nobel Committee said their choice could be seen as an early vote of confidence in Obama intended to build global support for his policies. They lauded the change in global mood wrought by Obama's calls for peace and cooperation, and praised his pledges to reduce the world stock of nuclear arms, ease American conflicts with Muslim nations and strengthen the U.S. role in combating climate change."

:).

Belial
10-09-2009, 06:01 PM
Very premature. It wasn't the most prestigious Prize to begin with, and this doesn't help its stature, one bit. :smh

AllanahStarrNYC
10-09-2009, 06:02 PM
Members of the Norwegian Nobel Committee said their choice could be seen as an early vote of confidence in Obama intended to build global support for his policies. They lauded the change in global mood wrought by Obama's calls for peace and cooperation, and praised his pledges to reduce the world stock of nuclear arms, ease American conflicts with Muslim nations and strengthen the U.S. role in combating climate change.

;)

AllanahStarrNYC
10-09-2009, 06:06 PM
That's a quote BTW

Dino Velvet
10-09-2009, 06:33 PM
First off, congratulations to President Barack Obama. This award doesn't so much elevate Obama but devalues the award even more now making it the level of an MTV Video Award. Maybe Kanye will interject himself somehow next year.

BellaBellucci
10-09-2009, 06:54 PM
First off, congratulations to President Barack Obama. This award doesn't so much elevate Obama but devalues the award even more now making it the level of an MTV Video Award. Maybe Kanye will interject himself somehow next year.

Yo Obama, I'ma let you finish... lol

~BB~

dinkinabutt
10-09-2009, 07:04 PM
Fast and furious...that's how we operate here in the Divided States of America.

raybbaby
10-09-2009, 07:21 PM
OK, I voted for him, continue to support him, but I've been plenty disappointed with some of his actions/decisions. This does seem ridiculous to me. I gotta say I just don't get it.

bullride24
10-09-2009, 07:52 PM
seriously This is a joke. if vision is what is important then everyone becomes eligible for it.

I was shocked when I saw the flash news about it. Even he must be shocked.

Who nominated him in the first place????

Ecstatic
10-09-2009, 07:59 PM
For what ?

For not being George W. Bush.

Sheesh. I voted for and, for the most part, am a supporter of Obama, but this is so premature it's like giving the Nobel Prize in Physics to a freshman at MIT.

deee757
10-09-2009, 08:16 PM
"Martin Luther King, Jr. (January 15, 1929 – April 4, 1968) was an American clergyman, activist and prominent leader in the African-American civil rights movement. His main legacy was to secure progress on civil rights in the United States and he is frequently referenced as a human rights icon today. King is recognized as a martyr by two Christian churches. [1] A Baptist minister,[2] King became a civil rights activist early in his career. He led the 1955 Montgomery Bus Boycott and helped found the Southern Christian Leadership Conference in 1957, serving as its first president. King's efforts led to the 1963 March on Washington, where King delivered his "I Have a Dream" speech. There, he raised public consciousness of the civil rights movement and established himself as one of the greatest orators in U.S. history.

In 1964, King became the youngest person to receive the Nobel Peace Prize for his work to end racial segregation and racial discrimination through civil disobedience and other non-violent means. By the time of his death in 1968, he had refocused his efforts on ending poverty and opposing the Vietnam War, both from a religious perspective. King was assassinated on April 4, 1968, in Memphis, Tennessee. He was posthumously awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom in 1977 and Congressional Gold Medal in 2004; Martin Luther King, Jr. Day was established as a U.S. national holiday in 1986."


I love MLK with all my heart, but other than leading a bus boycott, how is his peace resume more credible than Obama's? Not to mention he was not a politician so he didn't sign bills. His greatest contribution was raising social awareness about racial segregation and inadequacies. Lol, his most famous speech is referred to as "I have a dream" He was not "free at last" when he was making the speech, he was giving you his vision.

Oh yea, hi everyone

SarahG
10-09-2009, 08:19 PM
He was nominated two weeks into his presidency.

TWO FUCKING WEEKS.

Give him a chance to do something first, damnit.

BellaBellucci
10-09-2009, 08:28 PM
I love MLK with all my heart, but other than leading a bus boycott, how is his peace resume more credible than Obama's? Not to mention he was not a politician so he didn't sign bills. His greatest contribution was raising social awareness about racial segregation and inadequacies. Lol, his most famous speech is referred to as "I have a dream" He was not "free at last" when he was making the speech, he was giving you his vision.

Oh yea, hi everyone

Call it right time, right place but that bus boycott changed this country forever and it was pretty clear that it would. Sure, the case could be made for using the prize to bolster Obama's gravitas so that he can do the same, but Obama's situation was right time, right place too. He wasn't elected for his works - he was elected for his words and has now gone on to win this award for the work he's promised to do as opposed to that he's actually done.

All in all my opinion is that awarding Obama this prize is probably good for instilling some hope into the global community but that doesn't mean that he's actually earned it either. Now he's going to have to do so.

Oh, and as far as his being a politician - that's another reason for him NOT to win it. His job is essentially to do exactly what he's doing. MLK was under no obligation to do what he did.

~BB~

deee757
10-09-2009, 09:00 PM
I love MLK with all my heart, but other than leading a bus boycott, how is his peace resume more credible than Obama's? Not to mention he was not a politician so he didn't sign bills. His greatest contribution was raising social awareness about racial segregation and inadequacies. Lol, his most famous speech is referred to as "I have a dream" He was not "free at last" when he was making the speech, he was giving you his vision.

Oh yea, hi everyone

Call it right time, right place but that bus boycott changed this country forever and it was pretty clear that it would. Sure, the case could be made for using the prize to bolster Obama's gravitas so that he can do the same, but Obama's situation was right time, right place too. He wasn't elected for his works - he was elected for his words and has now gone on to win this award for the work he's promised to do as opposed to that he's actually done.

All in all my opinion is that awarding Obama this prize is probably good for instilling some hope into the global community but that doesn't mean that he's actually earned it either. Now he's going to have to do so.

Oh, and as far as his being a politician - that's another reason for him NOT to win it. His job is essentially to do exactly what he's doing. MLK was under no obligation to do what he did.

~BB~

You don't "earn" a peace prize, it is awarded. One of the people he beat out for the award has been fighting for the education of females and he built over 130 schools in Afghanistan and Pakistan. Now if the argument is about actual achievements of peace, than I agree that Obama should not have got it. But that's not the criteria for receiving the award, so if no one had a problem with MLK receiving it, no one should have a problem with Obama reciving it.

longhorn
10-09-2009, 09:08 PM
Obama winning the noble peace prize is a joke.

loren
10-09-2009, 09:10 PM
It was a polical decision by the Nobel committee, clearly. They may live to regret their premature selection since it appears Obama may be forced to engage in military action against Iran to thwart their continued covert nuclear weapons program.No, obama isn't ever going to bomb Iran, he'll just really seriously open a diplomatic dialogue with them.

peggygee
10-09-2009, 09:20 PM
Way to go Mr President.

http://media.masslive.com/breakingnews/photo/aptopix-nobel-peace-p-hobbjpg-2a9030ce2195c5c3_large.jpg

I am very proud and happy for you.

BellaBellucci
10-09-2009, 09:21 PM
You don't "earn" a peace prize, it is awarded.

Uhh, yeah, thanks for the clarification. What would I do without you (lol)? Of course it's earned in a sense. They don't 'award' it to just anyone... or do they?! It's 'awarded' based on what? Words or actions? My vote is for the former. That said, MLK's rhetoric matched his actions but in my (largely shared) opinion the jury is still out on Obama.

~BB~

BellaBellucci
10-09-2009, 09:23 PM
It was a polical decision by the Nobel committee, clearly. They may live to regret their premature selection since it appears Obama may be forced to engage in military action against Iran to thwart their continued covert nuclear weapons program.No, obama isn't ever going to bomb Iran, he'll just really seriously open a diplomatic dialogue with them.

Well he might have bombed them before but how can he now? He's a Nobel Peace Prize winner. *snicker*

McCain never would have had this problem! rofl

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-zoPgv_nYg

~BB~

giovanni_hotel
10-09-2009, 09:27 PM
First off, congratulations to President Barack Obama. This award doesn't so much elevate Obama but devalues the award even more now making it the level of an MTV Video Award. Maybe Kanye will interject himself somehow next year.

Don't hate. Particpate.

MTV award?? Hardly.

Basically, the Nobel committee was expressing their collective disgust over the last eight years of the previous administration, and had less to do with the accomplishments of Obama in particular.

FigJam
10-09-2009, 09:56 PM
I just wonder what Obama is going to do with the monetary award (about $1.4 million) that goes with the prize.

Keep it?

Donate it to charity?

Give it to ACORN?

AllanahStarrNYC
10-09-2009, 10:20 PM
First of all, the Nobel Peace Prize is one of the most distinguished honors in the world.

Second of all he was nominated yes two weeks into his presidency but the organization meets all YEAR long, until September, so they could have changed their minds all along.

Thirdly, they can give it to whomever the hell they want.

Fourth, this was definately a move to counter unitalirism, and recognize Americans for electing not another Bush. HOORAY FOR THAT.

Lastly, we should all be proud for the President and as Americans- this is a tremendous honor and recognition. Obama has inherited a MESS and it can't ne fixed in 8 months. Most importantly, the way Bush and Bush policy destroyed and warped the view of America and Americans throughout the world-THIS IS DEFINATELY A STEP FORWARD.

Conservatives and oppenents want him to FAIL no matter what . If we didnt get the OLYMPICS hooray! Nobel Peace Prize=BAAAAAAAD! Face it, people who want him to fail don't want anything good to happen for the next four years.

fred41
10-09-2009, 10:32 PM
Conservatives and oppenents want him to FAIL no matter what . If we didnt get the OLYMPICS hooray! Nobel Peace Prize=BAAAAAAAD! Face it, people who want him to fail don't want anything good to happen for the next four years.

I think it's time to stop saying this crap. A lot of people on this site (and off this site) who voted for him disagree with giving him this award...at this time.

You are allowed to criticize him ..without wanting him to fail. People aren't lemmings after all.

AllanahStarrNYC
10-09-2009, 10:38 PM
Conservatives and oppenents want him to FAIL no matter what . If we didnt get the OLYMPICS hooray! Nobel Peace Prize=BAAAAAAAD! Face it, people who want him to fail don't want anything good to happen for the next four years.

I think it's time to stop saying this crap. A lot of people on this site (and off this site) who voted for him disagree with giving him this award...at this time.

You are allowed to criticize him ..without wanting him to fail. People aren't lemmings after all.

Really?
(To reaffirm my point, anyone of course can not agree with him)

http://mediamatters.org/research/200910020025

loren
10-09-2009, 10:42 PM
You are allowed to criticize him ..without wanting him to fail.No no no, Jimmy Peanuts said that anyone who disagrees with obama or criticizes him is racist.

raybbaby
10-09-2009, 10:44 PM
Conservatives and oppenents want him to FAIL no matter what . If we didnt get the OLYMPICS hooray! Nobel Peace Prize=BAAAAAAAD! Face it, people who want him to fail don't want anything good to happen for the next four years.

I think it's time to stop saying this crap. A lot of people on this site (and off this site) who voted for him disagree with giving him this award...at this time.

You are allowed to criticize him ..without wanting him to fail. People aren't lemmings after all.
You can't make a blanket statement(s) like that. Most people are in fact lemmings. There are in fact a ton of people who will and are cheering for any failures they can try and pin on Obama. Cheering for the Olyimpics not being held in Chicago is not in fact criticism, it's just attacking. If you and/or I think it's ridiculous that Obama gets this award before he has done much of anything, that's a fair criticism, of the award, or the committee or whatever. If you get on thr radio like I just heard Rush Limbaugh do, and say this award is a prize given because foreign countries love to see him "emasculate" his own country, that's not a valid criticism. It's just an attack.

FigJam
10-09-2009, 10:44 PM
Conservatives and oppenents want him to FAIL no matter what . If we didnt get the OLYMPICS hooray! Nobel Peace Prize=BAAAAAAAD! Face it, people who want him to fail don't want anything good to happen for the next four years.

Allanah..no. Its not wanting him to fail; it is wanting his POLICIES to fail (i.e. not be enacted into law) because they are wrong for the country. You seem to feel that anything Obama advocates is "good"; that's fine, you are entitled to that opinion. But others disagree with that proposition.

It is getting to the point that if you level any criticism at Obama's policies, you are either called racist, or it is claimed you "want him to fail", or both.

fred41
10-09-2009, 11:09 PM
Conservatives and oppenents want him to FAIL no matter what . If we didnt get the OLYMPICS hooray! Nobel Peace Prize=BAAAAAAAD! Face it, people who want him to fail don't want anything good to happen for the next four years.

I think it's time to stop saying this crap. A lot of people on this site (and off this site) who voted for him disagree with giving him this award...at this time.

You are allowed to criticize him ..without wanting him to fail. People aren't lemmings after all.
You can't make a blanket statement(s) like that. Most people are in fact lemmings. There are in fact a ton of people who will and are cheering for any failures they can try and pin on Obama. Cheering for the Olyimpics not being held in Chicago is not in fact criticism, it's just attacking. If you and/or I think it's ridiculous that Obama gets this award before he has done much of anything, that's a fair criticism, of the award, or the committee or whatever. If you get on thr radio like I just heard Rush Limbaugh do, and say this award is a prize given because foreign countries love to see him "emasculate" his own country, that's not a valid criticism. It's just an attack.

You may have a point about people being lemmings in actuality.I live in N.Y.C. after all...a city that practically votes lockstep for the Democratic Party so much so..that we practically only have one party (a city of lemmings)

My point is, once again..:You are allowed to disagree with a President or his policies, without being a racist or a right wing hate monger. As far as Limbaugh and Beck are concerned..that's their bread and butter....that's how they make a living. Obviously a lot of people..probably most..disagree with them (as shown by the election results).

brickcitybrother
10-09-2009, 11:19 PM
This is one time that its going to be more trouble than its worth. He does not need and probably should decline to focus his efforts on other fronts.

Rogers
10-09-2009, 11:20 PM
Even the London Times thinks Obama's Peace Prize is absurd:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article6867711.ece

"Even"? The London Times is owned by Rupert Murdoch.

raybbaby
10-10-2009, 12:01 AM
This is one time that its going to be more trouble than its worth. He does not need and probably should decline to focus his efforts on other fronts.
??????????????????? what? At first it seemed like you said something. Upon finishing and then re-reading, you haven't said anything.

Dino Velvet
10-10-2009, 12:15 AM
First off, congratulations to President Barack Obama. This award doesn't so much elevate Obama but devalues the award even more now making it the level of an MTV Video Award. Maybe Kanye will interject himself somehow next year.

Don't hate. Particpate.

MTV award?? Hardly.

Basically, the Nobel committee was expressing their collective disgust over the last eight years of the previous administration, and had less to do with the accomplishments of Obama in particular.

So you're saying Hillary would have been a lock if she became President? I might agree with you.

raybbaby
10-10-2009, 12:25 AM
I guess after reasding a lot of opinions and articles about this, and listening to some different takes on the subject on talk radio, I've arrived at the same conclusion as ever. Who cares? What diffeence does it make?

bte
10-10-2009, 12:47 AM
He was in office for 2 weeks when the committee nominated him for the prize. Why after two weeks did the committee nominate him? He hasn't done anything. Even Obama has stated that he didn't deserve the award. Good on him for getting it, but its stupid to even consider him in the first place.

Belial
10-10-2009, 12:59 AM
First of all, the Nobel Peace Prize is one of the most distinguished honors in the world.

Yasir Arafat got the peace prize in 1994. That shows you how credible, distinguished, and relevant, this booby prize is.

deee757
10-10-2009, 01:25 AM
First of all, the Nobel Peace Prize is one of the most distinguished honors in the world.

Second of all he was nominated yes two weeks into his presidency but the organization meets all YEAR long, until September, so they could have changed their minds all along.

Thirdly, they can give it to whomever the hell they want.

Fourth, this was definately a move to counter unitalirism, and recognize Americans for electing not another Bush. HOORAY FOR THAT.

Lastly, we should all be proud for the President and as Americans- this is a tremendous honor and recognition. Obama has inherited a MESS and it can't ne fixed in 8 months. Most importantly, the way Bush and Bush policy destroyed and warped the view of America and Americans throughout the world-THIS IS DEFINATELY A STEP FORWARD.

Conservatives and oppenents want him to FAIL no matter what . If we didnt get the OLYMPICS hooray! Nobel Peace Prize=BAAAAAAAD! Face it, people who want him to fail don't want anything good to happen for the next four years.

Im just happy we were able to get Allanah Starr to debate :)

AngelinaTorres
10-10-2009, 01:39 AM
I could have never imagined he would have won it so early ! Congrats...

2009AD
10-10-2009, 01:39 AM
He was in office for 2 weeks when the committee nominated him for the prize. Why after two weeks did the committee nominate him?

The committee does not nominate, it selects from the nominees. People are nominated by members of national parliaments, governments, international organizations, former winners...

Silcc69
10-10-2009, 01:51 AM
Weird that he can actually win an award like that yet he could'nt get Chicago the Olympics? Was this a consolation prize instead?

2009AD
10-10-2009, 02:20 AM
Weird that he can actually win an award like that yet he could'nt get Chicago the Olympics? Was this a consolation prize instead?

Apples and oranges. I'll assume your kidding about the consolation prize thing.

Faldur
10-10-2009, 04:18 AM
Kind of funny... the founder of the Nobel peace prize invented dynamite. Can you say guilty conscience?

evilernie
10-10-2009, 05:01 AM
1. It's not up to Americans who should get the Nobel peace prize, so you guys can keep yakking. It doesn't make a lot of difference. In fact, it's not up to anyone else except these crazy Norwegians.
2. How would you know how foreigners feel about Americans before and after Bush? Maybe it's a sigh of consensus relief that it's not another GOP that got the office.
3. Personal tangible achievements. Perhaps we can't see it now. Do you guys realize what usually precipitates war, it's poverty. Maybe they think that Obama "single-handedly" brought us back from the brink of global catastrophe. Think back on how you felt a year ago.

In conclusion, perhaps we are just not seeing what they saw.

rico87
10-10-2009, 06:45 AM
I can't believe they didn't give it to Hugo Chavez :roll:

MrF
10-10-2009, 09:02 AM
I like Obama and I'm generally aligned with him politically, but I agree he didn't do enough to deserve a Nobel Peace Prize. On the other hand, I haven't been too impressed with the history of the Peace Prize, and it seems to be frequently controversial and politically divisive, and I'm not sure we can ascribe much meaning to it. The Nobel committee should stick to physics, chemistry, medicine, economics and the like.

transmaven
10-10-2009, 09:06 AM
http://a.abcnews.com/images/US/ap_obama_crowley_gates_beer_090730_mn.jpg

You tellin' me he needs to do *more?*

C'mon!

SarahG
10-10-2009, 09:16 AM
http://a.abcnews.com/images/US/ap_obama_crowley_gates_beer_090730_mn.jpg

You tellin' me he needs to do *more?*

C'mon!

Well, considering that the cop was the one shown here helping Gates on the steps as they walked over to go drink with the President, I'd say the two were already in peace with each other. Relatively speaking anyway.

ohioguy13
10-10-2009, 01:38 PM
He just wont the heisman today!!! hip hip hoooray

phobun
10-10-2009, 03:41 PM
First off, congratulations to President Barack Obama. This award doesn't so much elevate Obama but devalues the award even more now making it the level of an MTV Video Award. Maybe Kanye will interject himself somehow next year.
Hilarious

phobun
10-10-2009, 03:54 PM
He was nominated two weeks into his presidency.

TWO FUCKING WEEKS.

Give him a chance to do something first, damnit.
Yeah but people like the promise of what the package represents. So if he is skinny, charismatic and attractive it must mean he's serious about not liking the bomb. Also, undoubtedly, some want to honor the first black president.

I think the Nobel Committee's criteria are a bit nuts but they must go something like this...

"DARKER-HUED PRESIDENTIAL BEAUTIES ALTHOUGH LIGHTER HUES NOT EXCLUDED."

DaveinBoston
10-10-2009, 04:30 PM
For what ?

A few things another Nobel Prize Winner once said:

"To accomplish great things, we must not only act but also dream, not only plan but also believe."

"Nine tenths of education is encouragement."

Really... so you think I could encourage someone to become the next Einstein?

I bet that person that said "To accomplish...."... actually accomplished something before he got the award... not before. The world is full of dreamers. Do they all deserve the Nobel Prize?

Awards are given for accomplishments.... not promise to accomplish something

trish
10-10-2009, 05:11 PM
Yasir Arafat got the peace prize in 1994. That shows you how credible, distinguished, and relevant, this booby prize is.

This is only half true. Arafat shared the 94 prize with Yitzhak Rabin and Shimon Peres. It was for their "efforts" to create peace in the Middle East and also to provide them with a modicum of leverage toward furthering their efforts. The three were in fact to some extent somewhat successful, as I'm sure you'll remember that they were probably never closer to signing an accord, then they were in the mid nineties. The peace prize almost always awarded in the hope of engendering the progress of peace. Sometimes it works. Often it doesn't.

phobun
10-10-2009, 05:31 PM
Yasir Arafat got the peace prize in 1994. That shows you how credible, distinguished, and relevant, this booby prize is.

This is only half true. Arafat shared the 94 prize with Yitzhak Rabin and Shimon Peres. It was for their "efforts" to create peace in the Middle East and also to provide them with a modicum of leverage toward furthering their efforts. The three were in fact to some extent somewhat successful, as I'm sure you'll remember that they were probably never closer to signing an accord, then they were in the mid nineties. The peace prize almost always awarded in the hope of engendering the progress of peace. Sometimes it works. Often it doesn't.
Yeah, what an inaccurate and flippant way to describe a Nobel experiment that did not end so nobly. There are lots of people still living horrible lives of misery and fear, so I don't know what your criteria are for "somewhat successful." Sometimes accomplishments matter, often they don't.

gunner55
10-10-2009, 05:35 PM
Europe loves him because he is intent on weakening America, something they have wanted to do for years.

trish
10-10-2009, 05:44 PM
Sorry if you thought I was being flippant. I wasn't. Neither was I being inaccurate. The prize was awarded to urge the three to further their efforts. They did, but nevertheless failed to sign an accord. Sometimes efforts succeed, sometimes they don't. You can't always know ahead of time. In the case of the 94 prize, the Nobel committee thought it was an effort worth their encouragement.

Dirky
10-10-2009, 06:07 PM
Europe loves him because he is intent on weakening America, something they have wanted to do for years.

I was wondering how the conservatives were going to spin this. That's weak though. You gotta do better than that. Still, it made me laugh so I shouldn't complain.

Beagle
10-10-2009, 06:37 PM
Kinda makes you wonder what will the nobel committee do if obama does something what they deem medal-worthy later on?

Or maybe the committee thinks this is as good as it gets with obama?

It's merely a politically motivated style-over-substance and a i'm-not-georgebush award.

Real people of long-term accomplishment like Mother Theresa seem out of vogue.

Rogers
10-10-2009, 06:39 PM
For what ?

A few things another Nobel Prize Winner once said:

"To accomplish great things, we must not only act but also dream, not only plan but also believe."

"Nine tenths of education is encouragement."

Really... so you think I could encourage someone to become the next Einstein?

Yup, it would most definitely help.

Phenotype = Genotype + ENVIRONMENT.

"intelligence, enthusiasm, and endurance"
http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1879593,00.html


I bet that person that said "To accomplish...."... actually accomplished something before he got the award... not before. The world is full of dreamers. Do they all deserve the Nobel Prize?

Awards are given for accomplishments.... not promise to accomplish something

It was the writer, Anatole France. And it's not about what you think the prize should be given for, only what Alfred Nobel thought about it himself.

"...and one part to the person who shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations, for the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding and promotion of peace congresses."
http://nobelprize.org/alfred_nobel/will/short_testamente.html

"promotion of peace congresses"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlhih1uuXRA

phobun
10-10-2009, 06:42 PM
Real people of long-term accomplishment like Mother Theresa seem out of vogue.

Hell's Angel: Mother Theresa by Christopher Hitchens
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WQ0i3nCx60 (Part 1 or 3)

Also see the book, The Missionary Position: Mother Theresa in Theory and Practice (http://www.amazon.com/Missionary-Position-Mother-Teresa-Practice/dp/185984054X/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1255192856&sr=8-1)

Rogers
10-10-2009, 06:46 PM
Yasir Arafat got the peace prize in 1994. That shows you how credible, distinguished, and relevant, this booby prize is.

This is only half true. Arafat shared the 94 prize with Yitzhak Rabin and Shimon Peres. It was for their "efforts" to create peace in the Middle East and also to provide them with a modicum of leverage toward furthering their efforts. The three were in fact to some extent somewhat successful, as I'm sure you'll remember that they were probably never closer to signing an accord, then they were in the mid nineties. The peace prize almost always awarded in the hope of engendering the progress of peace. Sometimes it works. Often it doesn't.
Yeah, what an inaccurate and flippant way to describe a Nobel experiment that did not end so nobly. There are lots of people still living horrible lives of misery and fear, so I don't know what your criteria are for "somewhat successful." Sometimes accomplishments matter, often they don't.

Like any prize is going to fix that mess. :roll:

Dirky
10-10-2009, 07:08 PM
Obama saved the world from John McCain and Sarah Palin and that accomplishment alone makes him worthy of the Nobel Peace Prize.

SarahG
10-10-2009, 07:11 PM
Obama saved the world from John McCain and Sarah Palin and that accomplishment alone makes him worthy of the Nobel Peace Prize.

hmmm, you might be on to something here.

rockabilly
10-10-2009, 07:41 PM
Do not sully Battlestar Galactica like that Sarah.

pantybulge69
10-11-2009, 02:43 AM
It's been reported that Obama is a finalist and may win the following:

Playboy Playmate of the year.

American Idol 2010.

Survivor.

The Miss America crown.

AVN's Best Porn Star Award.

HA's "What Man Would You Most Like To See as a TG?" poll.

The Biggest Loser.

The next Papal election.

...i'd give you back all those " prestige" awards and nominations
and gladly take Obama as the winner of the 2012 presidential elections
if it will make you happy. :roll:

pantybulge69
10-11-2009, 02:48 AM
Europe loves him because he is intent on weakening America, something they have wanted to do for years.

if that was the cast yo boy Bush should have won the Peace hands down
and with flying honors.

Belial
10-11-2009, 03:04 AM
Sorry if you thought I was being flippant. I wasn't. Neither was I being inaccurate. The prize was awarded to urge the three to further their efforts. They did, but nevertheless failed to sign an accord. Sometimes efforts succeed, sometimes they don't. You can't always know ahead of time. In the case of the 94 prize, the Nobel committee thought it was an effort worth their encouragement.

A panel of left wing Norwegians selecting Obama as their beauty pageant winner for peace in '09 is only slightly more shocking than algore winning a nobel for the scare tactics he employs advocating "global warming" or jimmeh carter's nobel prize, given his anti-Semitic rants.

http://www.agmates.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/gore-breathing-fire-450.jpg
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/929b26c2eb.jpg

pantybulge69
10-11-2009, 03:18 AM
Sorry if you thought I was being flippant. I wasn't. Neither was I being inaccurate. The prize was awarded to urge the three to further their efforts. They did, but nevertheless failed to sign an accord. Sometimes efforts succeed, sometimes they don't. You can't always know ahead of time. In the case of the 94 prize, the Nobel committee thought it was an effort worth their encouragement.

A panel of left wing Norwegians selecting Obama as their beauty pageant winner for peace in '09 is only slightly more shocking than algore winning a nobel for the scare tactics he employs advocating "global warming" or jimmeh carter's nobel prize, given his anti-Semitic rants.

http://www.agmates.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/gore-breathing-fire-450.jpg
http://www.freeimagehosting.net/uploads/929b26c2eb.jpg

and where's Bush's big, dorky, monkey- ass on these joke-galleries?
There's gotta be a tossed, dusty shoe in-the- mouth Bush pic ya'll leavin' out ...
:oops:

raybbaby
10-11-2009, 03:21 AM
Also, being opposed to the actions of Israel's government does not make one an anti-semite.

evilernie
10-11-2009, 03:36 AM
Sorry.. If Republicans think that someone else should have gotten this award, then who should have it been. And why so much hate. If you think that this award is meaningless, so why are you popping your braincells over this. It's not even USA's money that they are giving away. Seriously, it's their award, let it be their choice. The Republicans are acting like Kanye West.

Coroner
10-11-2009, 03:55 AM
Europe loves him because he is intent on weakening America, something they have wanted to do for years.

As a European, I can tell you: yeah, that´s damn right, asshole!

beandip
10-11-2009, 04:18 AM
....too fuckin' funny.

He wants to put 40,000 troops into Trash-can-istan. There certainly are some deluded motherfuckers on this thread.

Beagle
10-11-2009, 04:36 AM
Buaahahahaaaa!!!!

trish
10-11-2009, 04:43 AM
Ouch, the photoshopped picture argument. There's simply no defense. So I'm mystified. What do Obama, Gore and Carter have to do with my post????

gunner55
10-11-2009, 07:54 AM
Europe loves him because he is intent on weakening America, something they have wanted to do for years.

As a European, I can tell you: yeah, that´s damn right, asshole!

Yeah, how many times has America pulled your sorry asses out of the fire asshole? That's the one sure thing about you Europeans....you're always there when you need us.

Faldur
10-11-2009, 04:35 PM
http://www.gerrymay.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/american-idol-judges.jpg

evilernie
10-11-2009, 10:28 PM
Obama winning this award only brings attention to how much of a failure he is.

So we can call him a failure because he is only on the job for nine months, but he cannot get an award for the same reason?