FFS ...Through the eyes of ancient Egypt

[SexChangeTranny.com]

Ladies,

Take a look at the bust of what is considered the most beautiful woman in history. These are recent xrays of the bust...

Take a look at Nefertiti and you will notice...

1) A brow bone
2) A square jaw ( in my opinion )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHz0h8_BU_s

Comments ...?

[phobun]

Ladies,

Take a look at the bust of what is considered the most beautiful woman in history. These are recent xrays of the bust...

Take a look at Nefertiti and you will notice...

1) A brow bone
2) A square jaw ( in my opinion )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHz0h8_BU_s

Comments ...?
There are a hell of a lot more rougher looking queens than Nefertiti on this forum!

[BellaBellucci]

It's also said that Cleopatra was actually ugly and the attraction was to her power, not her alleged beauty.

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Cleopatra-Was-Ugly-47177.shtml

~BB~

[SarahG]

There are many different depictions of Cleopatra out there known to exist in various museums. There seems to be conflicting explanations for why this is.

Many ancient Egyptian artifacts & ruins have been heavily damaged, altered, or destroyed throughout history by non-native groups. The reason for this is cultural genocide, intentionally done to try to erase the memory of parts of civilizations (sometimes even whole civilizations) that people don't want to acknowledge.

I can think of countless times this has happened throughout history. The Christians once they came to power had a habit of destroying every pagan artifact or monument that they could get their hands on. The Egyptians themselves would try to erase the memory of past phorahs they disliked by destroying artifacts that would immortalize them. A long list of civilizations have done this to artifacts in the middle east. You know that rock that Islamic people journey to? There was a time before Islam when another middle eastern religion viewed it as sacred... eventually the Muslims became the dominate force and when that happened they conquered it and started controlling access to it so only they could get near it. The Spanish went around destroying artifacts of the Aztecs in Mexico... more recent yet the Taliban went around literally blowing up everything in Afghanistan that they could find that wasn't related to islamic history.

In the case of Egypt,
Everyone knows the myth about Napoleon's troops "shooting the Sphinx's nose off because she looked african and they didn't like the implications of an advanced african-civilization." The trouble is... that story is just a myth, no one today knows how, when, or why the nose was demolished. There are a few myths on when or why the nose was removed... none of those myths are reliable.

But, the Europeans WERE highly unsettled by finding an advanced civilization whose architects and rulers were of African-ethnicity. Since they were also all of the historians and archeologists for a long time, they had exclusive control over how the history books were written on the subject... at a time when the Europeans were justifying imperialism by arguing that they had this "burden" of superiority and that somehow entitled them to rape the rest of the world at their whim.

So you can find all kinds of history books where the Europeans were trying to hide or downplay how the Egyptians were of (at least partial) african-ethnicities.

The mummies we have found fully intact (meaning including hair) show that the rulers were of african ethnicity (see the pictures here: http://cuip.uchicago.edu/~jhawkins/1999/Ancientmummies.html ). This makes sense considering that they're not depicted in ancient egyptian art as being white (the original story peddled to the people of the world by the Europeans was that the rulers were all white, or mostly white).

http://www.freemaninstitute.com/Gallery/Egyp031_big_copy.jpg

http://www.freemaninstitute.com/Gallery/Egyp158_big_copy.jpg

http://www.freemaninstitute.com/Gallery/Egyp154_big_copy.jpg

So as you can see, there has been a lot of "selective" historical research going on here.

The bust this thread shows isn't even a real artifact in fact, it was made in 1912 by the Germans (http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesostris-the-great-the-egyptian-hercules/berlin-bust-how-german-archaeologists-faked-nerfertitis-bust/) who were interested in researching ancient egyptian paint techniques. After making the bust, and painting it the way they wanted, it was displayed in Berlin in a museum, where the Germans claimed that it was "the bust of Cleopatra." This simply isn't the case.

So what did she look like? Well... after Alexander the Great's exploits, one of his Generals became the ruler of Egypt and used the title Phorah... replacing the preceding royal family. From this point forward, if we follow the mainstream history books, all of Egypt's phorahs... including cleopatra were European.

So we see a lot of busts like these:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/3/3e/Kleopatra-VII.-Altes-Museum-Berlin1.jpg/452px-Kleopatra-VII.-Altes-Museum-Berlin1.jpg

But that's where it gets complicated, the General's claim to the throne was probably through a marriage (I can't find anything anywhere explaining how he claimed the title phorah other than the fact that he was a General under Alexander who had conquered Egypt) which would make his entire line of mixed race meaning Cleopatra was neither European or Egyptian in ancestry. That and the Romans and Geeks often had an amount of artistic freedom in making their statues so as to improve upon how people really looked.

So the archeologists tracked down one of her sisters and scanned the corpse and used a computer to reconstruct (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-1095043/Sorry-Liz-THIS-real-face-Cleopatra.html), digitally, what her sister looked like- under the theory that Cleopatra, being a sister, would look roughly the same.

For what its worth, this is what the scientists came up with:
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/12/16/article-1095043-02CFBB40000005DC-200_468x378.jpg

Based on the features of her sister they figured she was of mixed race, which seems to make sense in this mess.

[ringworm24]

Ladies,

Take a look at the bust of what is considered the most beautiful woman in history. These are recent xrays of the bust...

Take a look at Nefertiti and you will notice...

1) A brow bone
2) A square jaw ( in my opinion )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHz0h8_BU_s

Comments ...?

I think she had more of a reputation as seductress, know for using her womanly charms, I would hardly call her a plane Jane, but I have know women who at first looked what some people would consider plane, but there attude and actions just makes them amazingly hot

[ozma]

Ladies,

Take a look at the bust of what is considered the most beautiful woman in history. These are recent xrays of the bust...

Take a look at Nefertiti and you will notice...

1) A brow bone
2) A square jaw ( in my opinion )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHz0h8_BU_s

Comments ...?

First of all, there are concerns that the famous bust of Nefertiti is really authentic:

http://blogs.mercurynews.com/aei/2009/05/05/is-famed-nefertiti-bust-a-fake/
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5hesdEvM5E_PC4GzRm3iHA9fAYdQg

http://shangri-la.0catch.com/press/nefertiti.html

What the Egyptians saw her as: