A serious question about.....DRAMA!

[thefilmcrewz]

so i have been in the ts scene for a little while and i have noticed there is sooo much childish drama. why is this? I mean girls hateing eachother for dumb reasons...girls being sooo crazy that if i date one..they try to find ANYTHING out to cause problems. I dont need any bullshit responses. I just want to know what other tgirls think about this. seriously. Is there any tgirl out there that just does her own thing and doesnt trip over nothing? thanks

T.F.C.

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

I don't know you, but I like you already.
Welcome to my world...........

[SarahG]

I think it boils down to psychological damage caused by all the shit that comes along with being trans.

Its so common for trans people to have problems practically from birth with unaccepting family members, bullies, unsympathetic doctors, employers who are free to discriminate at will- then take into consideration all the emotional pain that someone might go through because they think their body is wrong... that's a lot to deal with.

Anyone who has problems coping to stress on top of that (growing up in a broken home, substance abuse, etc.) is bound to be a few bricks short of a fireplace, or a few steps short of a staircase, or a few pickles short of a barrel, a few bats short of a batcave- you get the idea.

There are GG's with just as much baggage, and its common for GG's with a lot of baggage to be prong to a lot of drama as well. Things aren't always as different as they appear.

[Silcc69]

http://www.hungangels.com/board/files/danniapr_162.jpg

I so luv this pic!

[fred41]

I think it boils down to psychological damage caused by all the shit that comes along with being trans.

Its so common for trans people to have problems practically from birth with unaccepting family members, bullies, unsympathetic doctors, employers who are free to discriminate at will- then take into consideration all the emotional pain that someone might go through because they think their body is wrong... that's a lot to deal with.

Anyone who has problems coping to stress on top of that (growing up in a broken home, substance abuse, etc.) is bound to be a few bricks short of a fireplace, or a few steps short of a staircase, or a few pickles short of a barrel, a few bats short of a batcave- you get the idea.

There are GG's with just as much baggage, and its common for GG's with a lot of baggage to be prong to a lot of drama as well. Things aren't always as different as they appear.

There is just as much crazy in the GG world...it just might go unnoticed because sometimes it takes GGs more years to accumulate that much psychological trauma..and sometimes menopause on top of it....but Tgs accumulate a lot more baggage in a shorter amount of time..esp. if you add in years in the adult trade business..and hormones on top of that.

It sometimes drives me a little batty when a girl gets extreme mood swings or comes up with wild accusations out of the blue...but in the long run, I understand it and am willing to deal with it..if you can't do that , then you have to be willing to stick to a different type of dating pool.

All that being said though, I've also seen a tremendous amount of guys trying to take advantage of the "crazy" in the tg world..and only complain when things don't quite go their way....also I've seen guy's try shit with a girl..and when it doesn't work or the girl catches on to it...she becomes "a crazy bitch"..to everyone he talks to.

I don't mind the occasional odd behaviour due to stress or hormones because no ts i've been with has ever complained about my bouts of crazy...and I certainly have them...so I certainly can't complain..lol.

Anyway..there's two sides to everything.

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[SarahG]

There is just as much crazy in the GG world...it just might go unnoticed because sometimes it takes GGs more years to accumulate that much psychological trauma..and sometimes menopause on top of it....but Tgs accumulate a lot more baggage in a shorter amount of time..esp. if you add in years in the adult trade business..and hormones on top of that.


Agreed, except for the hormone bit.

IF a trans girl is taking HRT correctly; i.e. maintains steady blood levels, gets routine blood tests, takes drugs properly- a ts person will be a lot more stable as far as hormones go than what you'd find naturally in GG's because of the way theirs cycles etc. In a GG, hormones flux far more than you'd normally ever see in a properly treated ts person (especially since its so common for TS people to only take E without progesterones).

[lahabra1976]

do most tgirls tend to take HRT correctly, as in getting routine blood tests...or most do it on their own?

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

I think it boils down to psychological damage caused by all the shit that comes along with being trans.

Its so common for trans people to have problems practically from birth with unaccepting family members, bullies, unsympathetic doctors, employers who are free to discriminate at will- then take into consideration all the emotional pain that someone might go through because they think their body is wrong... that's a lot to deal with.

Anyone who has problems coping to stress on top of that (growing up in a broken home, substance abuse, etc.) is bound to be a few bricks short of a fireplace, or a few steps short of a staircase, or a few pickles short of a barrel, a few bats short of a batcave- you get the idea.

There are GG's with just as much baggage, and its common for GG's with a lot of baggage to be prong to a lot of drama as well. Things aren't always as different as they appear.

There is just as much crazy in the GG world...it just might go unnoticed because sometimes it takes GGs more years to accumulate that much psychological trauma..and sometimes menopause on top of it....but Tgs accumulate a lot more baggage in a shorter amount of time..esp. if you add in years in the adult trade business..and hormones on top of that.

It sometimes drives me a little batty when a girl gets extreme mood swings or comes up with wild accusations out of the blue...but in the long run, I understand it and am willing to deal with it..if you can't do that , then you have to be willing to stick to a different type of dating pool.

All that being said though, I've also seen a tremendous amount of guys trying to take advantage of the "crazy" in the tg world..and only complain when things don't quite go their way....also I've seen guy's try shit with a girl..and when it doesn't work or the girl catches on to it...she becomes "a crazy bitch"..to everyone he talks to.

I don't mind the occasional odd behaviour due to stress or hormones because no ts i've been with has ever complained about my bouts of crazy...and I certainly have them...so I certainly can't complain..lol.

Anyway..there's two sides to everything.

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We will agree to disagree on the GG aspect and since we're both local probably laugh over it via Heinekens later.

There's discretion and there's being a dumb fuck. One thing I will say about most TS' i see in public during the day or night (regular club, etc.) they will respectfully mind their business, a simple hi & bye and keep it moving.

Then there's the BADF syndrome (no I doubt it's in medical books). The BADF syndrome has many characteristics as stated above [great fuckin post btw] but let me give my own insight into it:

The broad will ask every chick that you converse with at a function (either at a hormone shot locale, out shopping, while smoking the preferred drug of choice, while doing the others makeup, or via telephone) if they've been with the dude; and the joke is even if the chick says something humorous like "why do you wanna know?" in their head the answer is yes, because regardless of them being an escort all fuckin day, if a guy is seen with more than 1 tranny he's a whore.

A dude will be into a chick and a broad will observe eye contact across a room and do what I now refer to as "The J-Lo cockblock". The J-Lo cockblock is a mean motherfucker, a dude will be in a spot and immediately upon entry said chick will walk up to him and when he rejects her she will run up to every other chick at the venue talking about the dude like he's a dog, because he didn't give her the time of day. Then depending on his temper she'll walk up to him later in the night and make a big scene acting like she's the victim; because regardless of them being an escort all fuckin day, if a guy is seen with more than 1 tranny he's a whore.


You can't really blame hormones, drugs, bad childhoods, etc. on any of this. Every human being on the face of the earth knows right from wrong. People choose to be kind or choose to be assholes. Some people play mindgames so deep that anyone that's fallen victim to them has a serious task of digging their way out and if they do, they deserve all the accolades that come with that hard work.

Personally I've seen chicks who are really cool with me go off on their boyfriends over simple shit like a chick shaking their ass in front of the dude: like he ain't supposed to look. One dude has a deep scar on his face for something like that, it's fucked up.

[SarahG]

One dude has a deep scar on his face for something like that, it's fucked up.

:shock: :what Nothing says femininity like disfiguring your BF.

[CaptainGeech]

Agree with many of the above statements. I think it also has to do with the times and culture. It is literally cool and desirable to act like a diva (aka:bitch) in some peoples mind. Its almost a status thing. If you don't act like a diva and have a certain purse or pair of shoes you are a failure. Much of this behavior is encouraged by others around them until they think its normal. You ask many of these women who they look up to or who there role models are. More often than not they will probably say someone like Beyonce, Madonna, or Britney Spears. Not the best influences.

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

the DRAMA is almost like a birthright. It's rampant in every culture and communities. It's even 'doubled' (twice as bad) in the TS/TV/TG community due to 'lack' of good role models. I mean, look around at who's beautiful, fierce etc. in our small community? Younger girls wants to emulate surged up escorts (no offense just stating an opinion)..or Hollywood stars like Linsay Lohan etc. One more reason why it's harder for us folks to be taken seriously, get a job and assimilate in a 9-5 workforce. Can you imagine an OFFICE real life version, where employed trannies having a bad day and 'reading' co-workers/bosses that irked them? :lol:

~Kisses.

HTG

[trish]

What Sarah said.

[peggygee]

There is just as much crazy in the GG world...it just might go unnoticed because sometimes it takes GGs more years to accumulate that much psychological trauma..and sometimes menopause on top of it....but Tgs accumulate a lot more baggage in a shorter amount of time..esp. if you add in years in the adult trade business..and hormones on top of that.


Agreed, except for the hormone bit.

IF a trans girl is taking HRT correctly; i.e. maintains steady blood levels, gets routine blood tests, takes drugs properly- a ts person will be a lot more stable as far as hormones go than what you'd find naturally in GG's because of the way theirs cycles etc. In a GG, hormones flux far more than you'd normally ever see in a properly treated ts person (especially since its so common for TS people to only take E without progesterones).



What Sarah said.

I blame it on the "a-a-a-a-al-alcohol."

http://www.accidentalsexiness.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/02/jamie-foxx-blame-it.jpg

And the crack, the pills, the other drugs them chicks be mixing, and them
not having dealt with their psych and emotional issues.

But I don't blame it on the "h-h-h-r-r-r-t. :smh

[BellaBellucci]

the DRAMA is almost like a birthright. It's rampant in every culture and communities. It's even 'doubled' (twice as bad) in the TS/TV/TG community due to 'lack' of good role models. I mean, look around at who's beautiful, fierce etc. in our small community? Younger girls wants to emulate surged up escorts (no offense just stating an opinion)..or Hollywood stars like Linsay Lohan etc. One more reason why it's harder for us folks to be taken seriously, get a job and assimilate in a 9-5 workforce. Can you imagine an OFFICE real life version, where employed trannies having a bad day and 'reading' co-workers/bosses that irked them? :lol:

~Kisses.

HTG

You are the LAST person who should have a gripe against other transwomen about drama. I could have sworn I just had a 2 week long argument with you because you wanted to slam me for my personal preferences as if you have some responsibility to point out that they're different than the 'norm.' We're trannies. There is no 'norm.'

You want better role models? Stop trying to tear down the people who are different from you because you are NOT better than they are. Not only that but you pretty much said the EXACT same thing as Geech. Please get an original thought and a fucking clue.

Hypocrisy FAIL. Again.

~BB~

[blonde_sweetheart]

it comes with the territory...we're fighting against the world from birth...and it never seems to get any better!

[thefilmcrewz]

wow tons of different sides on this. my whole thing is that i will admit i love sex. love getting with a tgirl. But, i dont treat them like shit after. I am a total top and very masculine and basically consider myself "straight" im sure like other guys on here. I rarely come on this site cause every time i do it seems like there is another INTERNET fight. sooo lame. I can respect an opinion on different issues but its like if tgirls want their community to grow then why fight eachother all the time? I just broke up with my tgirl gf over some lame shit. People spreading rumors and going on and on. I am so sick of people talking to eachother but not to me about my issues ya know? It makes me laugh in one aspect then piss me off in another. I got kicked out of some gay bar for verbaly fighting with her. Anyone know of a bar or something where tgirls arrnt insane and just down to have a good time and get to know someone? ANYWHERE?!

thanks again guys

[britneymarkham]

ya it kinda of sucks how other girls hate on other girls its like do your own thing im always nice to everyone i dont like drama i cut ppl out of my life that bring negativity in my life i had alot of them for a long time but ya its reality "real" women have that drama 2 and men not just transexuals but tgirls are more crazy when it comes to buissness and men.

love britney.

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

the DRAMA is almost like a birthright. It's rampant in every culture and communities. It's even 'doubled' (twice as bad) in the TS/TV/TG community due to 'lack' of good role models. I mean, look around at who's beautiful, fierce etc. in our small community? Younger girls wants to emulate surged up escorts (no offense just stating an opinion)..or Hollywood stars like Linsay Lohan etc. One more reason why it's harder for us folks to be taken seriously, get a job and assimilate in a 9-5 workforce. Can you imagine an OFFICE real life version, where employed trannies having a bad day and 'reading' co-workers/bosses that irked them? :lol:

~Kisses.

HTG

You are the LAST person who should have a gripe against other transwomen about drama. I could have sworn I just had a 2 week long argument with you because you wanted to slam me for my personal preferences as if you have some responsibility to point out that they're different than the 'norm.' We're trannies. There is no 'norm.'

You want better role models? Stop trying to tear down the people who are different from you because you are NOT better than they are. Not only that but you pretty much said the EXACT same thing as Geech. Please get an original thought and a fucking clue.

Hypocrisy FAIL. Again.

~BB~

Blah blah blah (I'm not even going to read your psycho-babblings)! As usual, you've INSERTED yourself in my conversations (yet again)..when I am NOT even talking to you! Miss me much you stalker YOU?!? :lol:

I don't have any GRIPE (maybe YOU do)..I'm just stating obvious facts! :roll: Why don't YOU buy yourself a chin? Maybe you'd feel better! :lol:

~Kisses.

HTG

[LibertyHarkness]

myself i am balanced and very relaxed .. i dont buy into all the drama queen bullshit/flying egos etc, my time is far to precious to waste worrying about fitting in with the in crowd of peons that always come and go ...

i am me, people take me as they find me ...if people piss me off, take the piss out of me they only get the one chance to do that then i walk away...

Many times people have tried to drag me into little disputes amongst the ts circle in the uk, i just sit outside of it and cant be assed with it...i try and get along with everyone but if i cant stand someone etc i just simply dont interract with them...

i think some girls do need to get their heads out of their asses and wake up abit though.but its not my place to tell them so, as the old saying goes, give someone enough a rope ...

Just my twopence on the subject x

Libb x

[BellaBellucci]

the DRAMA is almost like a birthright. It's rampant in every culture and communities. It's even 'doubled' (twice as bad) in the TS/TV/TG community due to 'lack' of good role models. I mean, look around at who's beautiful, fierce etc. in our small community? Younger girls wants to emulate surged up escorts (no offense just stating an opinion)..or Hollywood stars like Linsay Lohan etc. One more reason why it's harder for us folks to be taken seriously, get a job and assimilate in a 9-5 workforce. Can you imagine an OFFICE real life version, where employed trannies having a bad day and 'reading' co-workers/bosses that irked them? :lol:

~Kisses.

HTG

You are the LAST person who should have a gripe against other transwomen about drama. I could have sworn I just had a 2 week long argument with you because you wanted to slam me for my personal preferences as if you have some responsibility to point out that they're different than the 'norm.' We're trannies. There is no 'norm.'

You want better role models? Stop trying to tear down the people who are different from you because you are NOT better than they are. Not only that but you pretty much said the EXACT same thing as Geech. Please get an original thought and a fucking clue.

Hypocrisy FAIL. Again.

~BB~

Blah blah blah (I'm not even going to read your psycho-babblings)! As usual, you've INSERTED yourself in my conversations (yet again)..when I am NOT even talking to you! Miss me much you stalker YOU?!? :lol:

I don't have any GRIPE (maybe YOU do)..I'm just stating obvious facts! :roll: Why don't YOU buy yourself a chin? Maybe you'd feel better! :lol:

~Kisses.

HTG

You don't have a gripe with me? Explain your signature. GODS you're a hyprocritical idiot.

~BB~

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

the DRAMA is almost like a birthright. It's rampant in every culture and communities. It's even 'doubled' (twice as bad) in the TS/TV/TG community due to 'lack' of good role models. I mean, look around at who's beautiful, fierce etc. in our small community? Younger girls wants to emulate surged up escorts (no offense just stating an opinion)..or Hollywood stars like Linsay Lohan etc. One more reason why it's harder for us folks to be taken seriously, get a job and assimilate in a 9-5 workforce. Can you imagine an OFFICE real life version, where employed trannies having a bad day and 'reading' co-workers/bosses that irked them? :lol:

~Kisses.

HTG

You are the LAST person who should have a gripe against other transwomen about drama. I could have sworn I just had a 2 week long argument with you because you wanted to slam me for my personal preferences as if you have some responsibility to point out that they're different than the 'norm.' We're trannies. There is no 'norm.'

You want better role models? Stop trying to tear down the people who are different from you because you are NOT better than they are. Not only that but you pretty much said the EXACT same thing as Geech. Please get an original thought and a fucking clue.

Hypocrisy FAIL. Again.

~BB~

Blah blah blah (I'm not even going to read your psycho-babblings)! As usual, you've INSERTED yourself in my conversations (yet again)..when I am NOT even talking to you! Miss me much you stalker YOU?!? :lol:

I don't have any GRIPE (maybe YOU do)..I'm just stating obvious facts! :roll: Why don't YOU buy yourself a chin? Maybe you'd feel better! :lol:

~Kisses.

HTG

You don't have a gripe with me? Explain your signature. GODS you're a hyprocritical idiot.

~BB~

I was actually taking Katt's advice (to me on twitter) not to feed into this bullshit, cos the guys (who loves drama) LIVES for it. But then, it seems like you couldn't fucking get your mind off me so..

THAT has NOTHING to do with this thread. Didn't you started to flame me yet again just last week (or was it a few days ago)? Hence the sig. IF YOU stop it then there wouldn't be such sig. GET it, you moron/staker YOU?

~Kisses.

HTG

[BellaBellucci]

I was actually taking Katt's advice (to me on twitter) not to feed into this bullshit, cos the guys (who loves drama) LIVES for it. But then, it seems like you couldn't fucking get your mind off me so..

THAT has NOTHING to do with this thread. Didn't you started to flame me yet again just last week (or was it a few days ago)? Hence the sig. IF YOU stop it then there wouldn't be such sig. GET it, you moron/staker YOU?

~Kisses.

HTG

OMG You're retarded. I made a swipe at you in one post and you change your entire sig. That's called escalation. If you want it to stop, then stop.

~BB~

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

the DRAMA is almost like a birthright. It's rampant in every culture and communities. It's even 'doubled' (twice as bad) in the TS/TV/TG community due to 'lack' of good role models. I mean, look around at who's beautiful, fierce etc. in our small community? Younger girls wants to emulate surged up escorts (no offense just stating an opinion)..or Hollywood stars like Linsay Lohan etc. One more reason why it's harder for us folks to be taken seriously, get a job and assimilate in a 9-5 workforce. Can you imagine an OFFICE real life version, where employed trannies having a bad day and 'reading' co-workers/bosses that irked them? :lol:

~Kisses.

HTG

You are the LAST person who should have a gripe against other transwomen about drama. I could have sworn I just had a 2 week long argument with you because you wanted to slam me for my personal preferences as if you have some responsibility to point out that they're different than the 'norm.' We're trannies. There is no 'norm.'

You want better role models? Stop trying to tear down the people who are different from you because you are NOT better than they are. Not only that but you pretty much said the EXACT same thing as Geech. Please get an original thought and a fucking clue.

Hypocrisy FAIL. Again.

~BB~

Blah blah blah (I'm not even going to read your psycho-babblings)! As usual, you've INSERTED yourself in my conversations (yet again)..when I am NOT even talking to you! Miss me much you stalker YOU?!? :lol:

I don't have any GRIPE (maybe YOU do)..I'm just stating obvious facts! :roll: Why don't YOU buy yourself a chin? Maybe you'd feel better! :lol:

~Kisses.

HTG

You don't have a gripe with me? Explain your signature. GODS you're a hyprocritical idiot.

~BB~

I was actually taking Katt's advice (to me on twitter) not to feed into this bullshit, cos the guys (who loves drama) LIVES for it. But then, it seems like you couldn't fucking get your mind off me so..

THAT has NOTHING to do with this thread. Didn't you started to flame me yet again just last week (or was it a few days ago)? Hence the sig. IF YOU stop it then there wouldn't be such sig. GET it, you moron/staker YOU?

~Kisses.

HTG

OMG You're retarded. I made a swipe at you in one post and you change your entire sig. That's called escalation. If you want it to stop, then stop.

~BB~

YOU stop and maybe I will! Isn't that simple? YOU keep your thoughts, fingers and mind to yourself and avoid quoting me, conversing with me and I'll do the same!

I mean, let's both be real here for a sec., why are you spending so much time fighting with someone who doesn't have any desire getting to know you? IF I were you, You should try and find some 'decent' employment and make that weekly paycheck (to support yourself and your son). Instead of arguing with people who don't care to hear from you.

Oh and in case you haven't noticed, you're looking rather pale and famished lately..definitely not a healthy look! lol

~Kisses.

HTG

[BellaBellucci]

YOU stop and maybe I will! Isn't that simple? YOU keep your thoughts, fingers and mind to yourself and avoid quoting me, conversing with me and I'll do the same!

I mean, let's both be real here for a sec., why are you spending so much time fighting with someone who doesn't have any desire getting to know you? IF I were you, You should try and find some 'decent' employment and make that weekly paycheck (to support yourself and your son). Instead of arguing with people who don't care to hear from you.

Oh and in case you haven't noticed, you're looking rather pale and famished lately..definitely not a healthy look! lol

~Kisses.

HTG

I love how you still act like the victim and say you want it to stop but you keep talking shit. Keep up the great work! And where did the thread in question go? Who did you have to fuck to get it removed? Whoever it is, you should know that nobody else likes you.

~BB~

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

YOU stop and maybe I will! Isn't that simple? YOU keep your thoughts, fingers and mind to yourself and avoid quoting me, conversing with me and I'll do the same!

I mean, let's both be real here for a sec., why are you spending so much time fighting with someone who doesn't have any desire getting to know you? IF I were you, You should try and find some 'decent' employment and make that weekly paycheck (to support yourself and your son). Instead of arguing with people who don't care to hear from you.

Oh and in case you haven't noticed, you're looking rather pale and famished lately..definitely not a healthy look! lol

~Kisses.

HTG

I love how you still act like the victim and say you want it to stop but you keep talking shit. Keep up the great work! And where did the thread in question go? Who did you have to fuck to get it removed?

~BB~

This is what I like about you..YOU can make fun of others but YOU can't 'take it' when others make FUN of YOU! So much for your double standards! And when someone points out reality to you, You twist it around, by saying others were 'talking shit' about you! Hilarious! :lol:

YOU want it removed? Then don't mention my name, don't quote me, converse with me and keep your mouth, fingers & mind to yourself! It's that simple.

And 'whoever' doesn't like me, I suspect it's mostly your faggy chat buddies! Likewise! I've a life and work outside HA unlike most of you and your faggy chatmates! :lol: And PS I've got a hard copy txt msg from a mod who said he doesn't like you..do you want me to forward that to your cell? Lemme know..;)

~Kisses.

HTG

[BellaBellucci]

This is what I like about you..YOU can make fun of others but YOU can't 'take it' when others make FUN of YOU! So much for your double standards! And when someone points out reality to you, You twist it around, by saying others were 'talking shit' about you! Hilarious! :lol:

YOU want it removed? Then don't mention my name, don't quote me, converse with me and keep your mouth, fingers & mind to yourself! It's that simple.

~Kisses.

HTG

You seriously need to learn how to read: the DUKE CHUTE thread was removed. I can't take it? Really? I'm the one that hardly ever calls you names. I prefer to argue merits. That show's that it's personal for YOU, not me. Deal.

~BB~

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

This is what I like about you..YOU can make fun of others but YOU can't 'take it' when others make FUN of YOU! So much for your double standards! And when someone points out reality to you, You twist it around, by saying others were 'talking shit' about you! Hilarious! :lol:

YOU want it removed? Then don't mention my name, don't quote me, converse with me and keep your mouth, fingers & mind to yourself! It's that simple.

~Kisses.

HTG

You seriously need to learn how to read: the DUKE CHUTE thread was removed. I can't take it? Really? I'm the one that hardly ever calls you names. I prefer to argue merits. That show's that it's personal for YOU, not me. Deal.

~BB~

I've NO IDEA if it was indeed removed (I was referring to my sig not that thread). It's past and now completely irrelevant to me. The content and our exchange inside it though is another matter.

To me, you're just plain irritating. End of story. I'm sure I'm NOT thee only one who shares the sentiment.

~Kisses.

HTG

[bloomsburyzeb]

I was going to point out that the drama wasn't just girl on guy but also girl on girl but hey... examples say more than theories ever could :-)

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

I just broke up with my tgirl gf over some lame shit. People spreading rumors and going on and on. I am so sick of people talking to eachother but not to me about my issues ya know? It makes me laugh in one aspect then piss me off in another. I got kicked out of some gay bar for verbaly fighting with her. Anyone know of a bar or something where tgirls arrnt insane and just down to have a good time and get to know someone? ANYWHERE?!

thanks again guys

dude Im buying you a drink if you're ever in NYC
OMFG I knew I had brothers out there

[BellaBellucci]

I've NO IDEA if it was indeed removed (I was referring to my sig not that thread). It's past and now completely irrelevant to me. The content and our exchange inside it though is another matter.

To me, you're just plain irritating. End of story. I'm sure I'm NOT thee only one who shares the sentiment.

~Kisses.

HTG

I think these people should speak for themselves, don't you?

~BB~

[BrendaQG]

And just to dramatize the dramatic flare of transwomen this thread has some drama.

Let me say this. There are some in this world, trans, gay, straight, all races and creeds who interpret being nice as being weak. As others have said, transpeople are almost always hurt from birth by those who would protect and love them. So we become very defensive to be sure we don't get hurt again.

It's like dealing with shell shocked soldiers in a way. Think of us as people who have post traumatic stress and how we act will make sense.

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

bella will you please stop hating for one day?

Thank you! :P

~Kisses.

HTG

[BellaBellucci]

bella will you please stop hating for one day?

Thank you! :P

~Kisses.

HTG

Wow. A noob with a bad reputation came to your defense. Apparently you're not aware that very often a person is judged by the company they keep.

~BB~

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

bella will you please stop hating for one day?

Thank you! :P

~Kisses.

HTG

Wow. A noob with a bad reputation came to your defense. Apparently you're not aware that very often a person is judged by the company they keep.

~BB~

Yeah, he maybe a NOOB. But at least I know he doesn't have some vindictive/malicious motive towards me..unlike some that are blinded with their deep seated hatred for themselves and aiming it (taking it out) on me!

So I know I'm in good company..I wish I could say the same thing about your chatfaggies! I bet it's only a matter of time, they too will throw a fit, fight with each other (including you) and will threaten to leave HA. :lol:

~Kisses.

HTG

[BellaBellucci]

bella will you please stop hating for one day?

Thank you! :P

~Kisses.

HTG

Wow. A noob with a bad reputation came to your defense. Apparently you're not aware that very often a person is judged by the company they keep.

~BB~

Yeah, he maybe a NOOB. But at least I know he doesn't have some vindictive/malicious motive towards me..unlike some that are blinded with their deep seated hatred for themselves and aiming it (taking it out) on me!

So I know I'm in good company..I wish I could say the same thing about your chatfaggies! I bet it's only a matter of time, they too will throw a fit, fight with each other (including you) and will threaten to leave HA. :lol:

~Kisses.

HTG

You. Are. Retarded.

I don't care about you. I just want you to shut the fuck up. What part don't you get and why are you so convinced that ANYONE would hate on you, let alone me? For me to do so you'd have to have something I want and all I want if for you to drop dead.

~BB~

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

You. Are. Retarded.

I don't care about you. I just want you to shut the fuck up. What part don't you get and why are you so convinced that ANYONE would hate on you. For me to do so you'd have to have something I want and I like I said: all I want if for you to drop dead.

~BB~

Lmao Retarded? Coming from someone who made a thread about celebrity look-alikes..You really got not much room to talk! :lol:

IF you don't care about me then SHOW IT! Do yourself a BIG favor and SHUT the fuck up! Don't INSERT yourself whenever I post. ;)

What part of "I couldn't fucking give a rats ass if 'some' people are hating on me" YOU do not understand? I live my life and pay my own bills..I DO NOT depend on them to make a living nor do I owe any of them anything! Get THAT hammered in your puny lil pot fried brain.

My impression of you is simple: Being that you're also into bdsm, I believe that YOU'RE a MASOCHIST, and gets off on our lil spat and going back and forth. Sorry, but I don't share that fetish! :lol:

If YOU drop dead first, everything will STOP! I promise.. lol ;)

~Kisses.

HTG

[BellaBellucci]

Lmao Retarded? Coming from someone who made a thread about celebrity look-alikes..You really got not much room to talk! :lol:

IF you don't care about me then SHOW IT! Do yourself a BIG favor and SHUT the fuck up! Don't INSERT yourself whenever I post. ;)

What part of "I couldn't fucking give a rats ass if 'some' people are hating on me" YOU do not understand? I live my life and pay my own bills..I DO NOT depend on them to make a living nor do I owe any of them anything! Get THAT hammered in your puny lil pot fried brain.

My impression of you is simple: Being that you're also into bdsm, I believe that YOU'RE a MASOCHIST, and gets off on our lil spat and going back and forth. Sorry, but I don't share that fetish! :lol:

If YOU drop dead first, everything will STOP! I promise.. lol ;)

~Kisses.

HTG

INSERT myself? What are you? The Queen of HA? ALL HAIL THE QUEEN! ONLY SPEAK WHEN SPOKEN TO! Did everyone get that? Hara makes the rules now apparently. This is news to me.

Hey, here's a newsflash: stop saying stupid shit and I'll stop calling you on it. Now you trash me for being into BDSM? Seriously, you're getting REALLY getting desperate now. You've yet to insult me in ANY way that makes any sense, doesn't insult others, or gives anybody any insight into my character that would make people think less of me... and they already know you're an ugly know-it-all who can't spell so you just go on and keep trying to dig yourself out of THAT hole.

I don't fight with you because you say stupid shit about me. I could obviously care less what pretty much anyone thinks (which is what makes you so frustrated - you just can't seem to get anything to 'stick'). I fight with you because you say stupid shit IN GENERAL. If you don't like it, then I suggest you think before you type because I'm not going anywhere and I always call BS when I see it - like your claims that it's OK for guys to expect anal sex with a TS 100% of the time because as you put it, 'an ass is a substitute for a pussy.' You didn't say 'can be.' You said 'is.' Your word vomit just got worse from there.

Opinions are like assholes, and in your case, yours is fucked.

Had enough yet?

~BB~

[buckjohnson]

GG have a lot of drama. An example. I had a meeting at my home with some co workers. One subject was why a certain female in our dept all of sudden started hating on me and creating all kind of havoc for me at the job. One of the females at my home told me it was about me paying attention to a new female in out dept. Another female agreed with and I came up with a strategy to talk to her at least 5 mins every workday. It worked and she treated me much better. I still cannot believe I had to resort to this gameplan to just get some peace at the J-O-B.

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

And just to dramatize the dramatic flare of transwomen this thread has some drama.

Let me say this. There are some in this world, trans, gay, straight, all races and creeds who interpret being nice as being weak. As others have said, transpeople are almost always hurt from birth by those who would protect and love them. So we become very defensive to be sure we don't get hurt again.

It's like dealing with shell shocked soldiers in a way. Think of us as people who have post traumatic stress and how we act will make sense.

Brenda no disrespect. Please don't take this wrong: FUCK DAT SHIT!!!!!!!

I was born in a country that is just now getting comfortable with certain things in society in regards to people that aren't caucasian. In all seriousness, throughout the decades of racism I and others on here I know have experienced not once have I blatantly lashed out at any Caucasians based on other folks and their hangups that might also have been Caucasian.

My point is this: I'm not saying ALL (because there are ALOT of TS/TV/CD's out there that are really cool, down to earth, normal folk) do dumb shit or act fucked up. But we all know a small group of individuals that get away with everything under the sun on a daily basis and when someone retaliates on their foolishness they claim society beating them down and how we should have sympathy..............fuck that.

You choose who you decide to be in this society, you choose how you think you should act, most of us are taught manners when we are infants. Some people are just fucked up, let's just admit that and move on.

[buckjohnson]

Hara_Juku Tgirl

You are my all time fav

[BellaBellucci]

But we all know a small group of individuals that get away with everything under the sun on a daily basis and when someone retaliates on their foolishness they claim society beating them down and how we should have sympathy..............fuck that.

You choose who you decide to be in this society, you choose how you think you should act, most of us are taught manners when we are infants. Some people are just fucked up, let's just admit that and move on.

Thank you. Hara DEFINITELY tops this list. HAHA! I said 'top.'

~BB~

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

Lmao Retarded? Coming from someone who made a thread about celebrity look-alikes..You really got not much room to talk! :lol:

IF you don't care about me then SHOW IT! Do yourself a BIG favor and SHUT the fuck up! Don't INSERT yourself whenever I post. ;)

What part of "I couldn't fucking give a rats ass if 'some' people are hating on me" YOU do not understand? I live my life and pay my own bills..I DO NOT depend on them to make a living nor do I owe any of them anything! Get THAT hammered in your puny lil pot fried brain.

My impression of you is simple: Being that you're also into bdsm, I believe that YOU'RE a MASOCHIST, and gets off on our lil spat and going back and forth. Sorry, but I don't share that fetish! :lol:

If YOU drop dead first, everything will STOP! I promise.. lol ;)

~Kisses.

HTG

INSERT myself? What are you? The Queen of HA? ALL HAIL THE QUEEN! ONLY SPEAK WHEN SPOKEN TO! Did everyone get that? Hara makes the rules now apparently. This is news to me.

Hey, here's a newsflash: stop saying stupid shit and I'll stop calling you on it. Now you trash me for being into BDSM? Seriously, you're getting REALLY getting desperate now. You've yet to insult me in ANY way that makes any sense, doesn't insult others, or gives anybody any insight into my character that would make people think less of me... and they already know you're an ugly know-it-all who can't spell so you just go on and keep trying to dig yourself out of THAT hole.

I don't fight with you because you say stupid shit about me. I could obviously care less what pretty much anyone thinks (which is what makes you so frustrated - you just can't seem to get anything to 'stick'). I fight with you because you say stupid shit IN GENERAL. If you don't like it, then I suggest you think before you type because I'm not going anywhere and I always call BS when I see it - like your claims that it's OK for guys to expect anal sex with a TS 100% of the time because as you put it, 'an ass is a substitute for a pussy.' You didn't say 'can be.' You said 'is.' Your word vomit just got worse from there.

Opinions are like assholes, and in your case, yours is fucked.

Had enough yet?

~BB~

Ahh yes, More Bullshit from the sane Bella. lol I say stupid shit? says the one who was first straight, hated anal sex but done top and bottom with clients and now claims to be pansexual who also hates labels! lol Yeah, that really will sit well with alot of idiots at this board. :lol: SMDH

Here's a thought, maybe, get your train of thoughts straighten out first before calling out others?

~Kisses.

HTG

[BellaBellucci]

Lmao Retarded? Coming from someone who made a thread about celebrity look-alikes..You really got not much room to talk! :lol:

IF you don't care about me then SHOW IT! Do yourself a BIG favor and SHUT the fuck up! Don't INSERT yourself whenever I post. ;)

What part of "I couldn't fucking give a rats ass if 'some' people are hating on me" YOU do not understand? I live my life and pay my own bills..I DO NOT depend on them to make a living nor do I owe any of them anything! Get THAT hammered in your puny lil pot fried brain.

My impression of you is simple: Being that you're also into bdsm, I believe that YOU'RE a MASOCHIST, and gets off on our lil spat and going back and forth. Sorry, but I don't share that fetish! :lol:

If YOU drop dead first, everything will STOP! I promise.. lol ;)

~Kisses.

HTG

INSERT myself? What are you? The Queen of HA? ALL HAIL THE QUEEN! ONLY SPEAK WHEN SPOKEN TO! Did everyone get that? Hara makes the rules now apparently. This is news to me.

Hey, here's a newsflash: stop saying stupid shit and I'll stop calling you on it. Now you trash me for being into BDSM? Seriously, you're getting REALLY getting desperate now. You've yet to insult me in ANY way that makes any sense, doesn't insult others, or gives anybody any insight into my character that would make people think less of me... and they already know you're an ugly know-it-all who can't spell so you just go on and keep trying to dig yourself out of THAT hole.

I don't fight with you because you say stupid shit about me. I could obviously care less what pretty much anyone thinks (which is what makes you so frustrated - you just can't seem to get anything to 'stick'). I fight with you because you say stupid shit IN GENERAL. If you don't like it, then I suggest you think before you type because I'm not going anywhere and I always call BS when I see it - like your claims that it's OK for guys to expect anal sex with a TS 100% of the time because as you put it, 'an ass is a substitute for a pussy.' You didn't say 'can be.' You said 'is.' Your word vomit just got worse from there.

Opinions are like assholes, and in your case, yours is fucked.

Had enough yet?

~BB~

Ahh yes, More Bullshit from the sane Bella. lol I say stupid shit? says the one who was first straight, hated anal sex but done top and bottom with clients and now claims to be pansexual who also hates labels! lol Yeah, that really will sit well with alot of idiots at this board. :lol: SMDH

Here's a thought, maybe, get your train of thoughts straighten out first before calling out others?

~Kisses.

HTG

Since the thread is apparently gone from the site I will defend my position only once:

I've had bad experiences with anal sex. I'm willing to try again with the right person. I am pansexual. I never claimed otherwise. Somehow you've turned those very simple and honest statements into some kind of game that nobody seems to want to play except you.

So go play with yourself.

~BB~

PS: At least *I* am not the one who said that top=man. You started *THAT* BS ALL on your own. How open minded of you.

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

But we all know a small group of individuals that get away with everything under the sun on a daily basis and when someone retaliates on their foolishness they claim society beating them down and how we should have sympathy..............fuck that.

You choose who you decide to be in this society, you choose how you think you should act, most of us are taught manners when we are infants. Some people are just fucked up, let's just admit that and move on.

Thank you. Hara DEFINITELY tops this list. HAHA! I said 'top.'

~BB~

Of course, drumming out sympathies and playing the helpless whore is the way to go! :roll:

LOSER!

~Kisses.

HTG

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

Lmao Retarded? Coming from someone who made a thread about celebrity look-alikes..You really got not much room to talk! :lol:

IF you don't care about me then SHOW IT! Do yourself a BIG favor and SHUT the fuck up! Don't INSERT yourself whenever I post. ;)

What part of "I couldn't fucking give a rats ass if 'some' people are hating on me" YOU do not understand? I live my life and pay my own bills..I DO NOT depend on them to make a living nor do I owe any of them anything! Get THAT hammered in your puny lil pot fried brain.

My impression of you is simple: Being that you're also into bdsm, I believe that YOU'RE a MASOCHIST, and gets off on our lil spat and going back and forth. Sorry, but I don't share that fetish! :lol:

If YOU drop dead first, everything will STOP! I promise.. lol ;)

~Kisses.

HTG

INSERT myself? What are you? The Queen of HA? ALL HAIL THE QUEEN! ONLY SPEAK WHEN SPOKEN TO! Did everyone get that? Hara makes the rules now apparently. This is news to me.

Hey, here's a newsflash: stop saying stupid shit and I'll stop calling you on it. Now you trash me for being into BDSM? Seriously, you're getting REALLY getting desperate now. You've yet to insult me in ANY way that makes any sense, doesn't insult others, or gives anybody any insight into my character that would make people think less of me... and they already know you're an ugly know-it-all who can't spell so you just go on and keep trying to dig yourself out of THAT hole.

I don't fight with you because you say stupid shit about me. I could obviously care less what pretty much anyone thinks (which is what makes you so frustrated - you just can't seem to get anything to 'stick'). I fight with you because you say stupid shit IN GENERAL. If you don't like it, then I suggest you think before you type because I'm not going anywhere and I always call BS when I see it - like your claims that it's OK for guys to expect anal sex with a TS 100% of the time because as you put it, 'an ass is a substitute for a pussy.' You didn't say 'can be.' You said 'is.' Your word vomit just got worse from there.

Opinions are like assholes, and in your case, yours is fucked.

Had enough yet?

~BB~

Ahh yes, More Bullshit from the sane Bella. lol I say stupid shit? says the one who was first straight, hated anal sex but done top and bottom with clients and now claims to be pansexual who also hates labels! lol Yeah, that really will sit well with alot of idiots at this board. :lol: SMDH

Here's a thought, maybe, get your train of thoughts straighten out first before calling out others?

~Kisses.

HTG

Since the thread is apparently gone from the site I will defend my position only once:

I've had bad experiences with anal sex. I'm willing to try with the right person. I am pansexual. I never claimed otherwise. Somehow you've turned those very simple and honest statements into some kind of game that nobody seems to want to play except you.

So go play with yourself.

~BB~

Blah blah blah.. :roll:

Oh I was..til you INSERTED yourself..Killed my erection under a nano second! :lol:

~Kisses.

HTG

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

Hara_Juku Tgirl

You are my all time fav

Rofl Bella is gunna hate you now! :lol:




PS: At least *I* am not the one who said that top=man. You started *THAT* BS ALL on your own. How open minded of you.

ACTUALLY, I never said that. YOU did! So fight with yourself, LOSER TROLL! :lol:

~Kisses.

HTG

[BellaBellucci]

But we all know a small group of individuals that get away with everything under the sun on a daily basis and when someone retaliates on their foolishness they claim society beating them down and how we should have sympathy..............fuck that.

You choose who you decide to be in this society, you choose how you think you should act, most of us are taught manners when we are infants. Some people are just fucked up, let's just admit that and move on.

Thank you. Hara DEFINITELY tops this list. HAHA! I said 'top.'

~BB~

Of course, drumming out sympathies and playing the helpless whore is the way to go! :roll:

LOSER!

~Kisses.

HTG

I strike you as 'helpless?' Really? Honest to gods bitch, you'll say ANYTHING won't you? I'd have to venture a guess that you are pretty much completely alone in that opinion.

~BB~

[BellaBellucci]

Hara_Juku Tgirl

You are my all time fav

Rofl Bella is gunna hate you now! :lol:

~Kisses.

HTG

No, actually I'm not. It's a free country. Unlike SOME people, I respect other's choices in life. YOU are the closed-minded one by insisting on the 'proper' ways for a TS to have sex.

And you're also one STUBBORN-ass bitch. We may both be wasting our time going back and forth like this, but at least I have legitimate things to say. You'll say ANYTHING for attention.

~BB~

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

[

I strike you as 'helpless?' Really? Honest to gods bitch, you'll say ANYTHING won't you? I'd have to venture a guess that you are pretty much completely alone in that opinion.

~BB~

Yeah, I guess if you count out the completely sane off this board who could tell who started what with whom..yeah! Lmao :lol:

:roll:

ON THE SIDE NOTE:

Hey, you've been barking at me pretty heavily this whole afternoon? What happened to your supposed clients? STILL NO CALLS? It's Thursday, guys should be getting off work and ready to play? Hmm..I guess NO ONE wants to PAY and play with you, huh? :lol:

Um, how many times must I PWNED you? Do you ever stop?

~Kisses.

HTG

[BellaBellucci]

[

I strike you as 'helpless?' Really? Honest to gods bitch, you'll say ANYTHING won't you? I'd have to venture a guess that you are pretty much completely alone in that opinion.

~BB~

Yeah, I guess if you count out the completely sane off this board who could tell who started what with whom..yeah! Lmao :lol:

:roll:

ON THE SIDE NOTE:

Hey, you've been barking at me pretty heavily this whole afternoon? What happened to your supposed clients? STILL NO CALLS? It's Thursday, guys should be getting off work and ready to play? Hmm..I guess NO ONE wants to PAY and play with you, huh? :lol:

Um, how many times must I PWNED you? Do you ever stop?

~Kisses.

HTG

How many times must you 'PWNED' me? So you can't spell AND you have a problem with tenses. Yeah. Ok then.

Look, you have no idea what you're talking about... but then I guess that's never stopped you before, has it?

~BB~

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

Hara_Juku Tgirl

You are my all time fav

Rofl Bella is gunna hate you now! :lol:

~Kisses.

HTG

No, actually I'm not. It's a free country. Unlike SOME people, I respect other's choices in life. YOU are the closed-minded one by insisting on the 'proper' ways for a TS to have sex.

And you're also one STUBBORN-ass bitch. We may both be wasting our time going back and forth like this, but at least I have legitimate things to say. You'll say ANYTHING for attention.

~BB~

lol@The proper way. I never said that. But that was YOUR interpretation! So again, if there's anyone you need to fight with, it's yourself with your interpretation - NOT me! :lol:

Say, ah..did you cum yet? Lmao..God what's taking so long bitch?!? EDT? Mone's?

:lol:

~Kisses.

HTG

[BellaBellucci]

Say, ah..did you cum yet? Lmao..God what's taking so long bitch?!? EDT? Mone's?

:lol:

~Kisses.

HTG

Wow. Talk about not knowing what you're talking about. Not only do I look better than you but I'm even still fully functional. Let's see you pull THAT one off.

Whatsamatta? Jealous?

~BB~

[LittleGuy]

bella will you please stop hating for one day?

Thank you! :P

~Kisses.

HTG

Wow. A noob with a bad reputation came to your defense. Apparently you're not aware that very often a person is judged by the company they keep.

~BB~

ive been on this site for years. just a new name. FAIL :roll:

[BellaBellucci]

bella will you please stop hating for one day?

Thank you! :P

~Kisses.

HTG

Wow. A noob with a bad reputation came to your defense. Apparently you're not aware that very often a person is judged by the company they keep.

~BB~

ive been on this site for years. just a new name. FAIL :roll:

What for then? You're a dick under this name so I'm sure you were a dick under your old one as well. What was the point in changing?

~BB~

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

[

I strike you as 'helpless?' Really? Honest to gods bitch, you'll say ANYTHING won't you? I'd have to venture a guess that you are pretty much completely alone in that opinion.

~BB~

Yeah, I guess if you count out the completely sane off this board who could tell who started what with whom..yeah! Lmao :lol:

:roll:

ON THE SIDE NOTE:

Hey, you've been barking at me pretty heavily this whole afternoon? What happened to your supposed clients? STILL NO CALLS? It's Thursday, guys should be getting off work and ready to play? Hmm..I guess NO ONE wants to PAY and play with you, huh? :lol:

Um, how many times must I PWNED you? Do you ever stop?

~Kisses.

HTG

How many times must you 'PWNED' me? So you can't spell AND you have a problem with tenses. Yeah. Ok then.

Look, you have no idea what you're talking about... but then I guess that's never stopped you before, has it?

~BB~

It's called ESL. I never onced denied that. But I don't think I'm THAT bad compared to some people who was born and raised here.

Yeah, that's a good cop-out isn't it? Is it the blunt talking? lol When cornered about their own bullshit..you tell me I got no idea what I'm talking about. But do YOU? :lol:

~Kisses.

HTG

[BellaBellucci]

Yeah, that's a good cop-out isn't it? Is it the blunt talking? lol When cornered about their own bullshit..you tell me I got no idea what I'm talking about. But do YOU? :lol:

~Kisses.

HTG

This shouldn't even be in dispute. You make claims about me as if you know me and you don't. Period. End of story. You just keep on trying there. Maybe someday you'll get me, but today is obviously not that day.

~BB~

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

Say, ah..did you cum yet? Lmao..God what's taking so long bitch?!? EDT? Mone's?

:lol:

~Kisses.

HTG

Wow. Talk about not knowing what you're talking about. Not only do I look better than you but I'm even still fully functional. Let's see you pull THAT one off.

Whatsamatta? Jealous?

~BB~

A small fully functional dick never sells! Now we all know now why you DON'T get any calls!!! Lmao

Look better? lol YOU must be HIGH as a kite if you think that! :lol: I'm Asian, you're white - what's to compare?

Go ahead and dig yourself a deeper HOLE!

~Kisses.

HTG

[BellaBellucci]

bella will you please stop hating for one day?

Thank you! :P

~Kisses.

HTG

Wow. A noob with a bad reputation came to your defense. Apparently you're not aware that very often a person is judged by the company they keep.

~BB~

ive been on this site for years. just a new name. FAIL :roll:

What for then? You're a dick under this name so I'm sure you were a dick under your old one as well. What was the point in changing?

~BB~

Why are you so angry?

Yeah, you're right. Sorry. That wasn't called for. But your little friend has a tendency to drive people a little nuts. My apologies, but please stay out of this.

~BB~

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

Yeah, that's a good cop-out isn't it? Is it the blunt talking? lol When cornered about their own bullshit..you tell me I got no idea what I'm talking about. But do YOU? :lol:

~Kisses.

HTG

This shouldn't even be in dispute. You make claims about me as if you know me and you don't. Period. End of story. You just keep on trying there. Maybe someday you'll get me, but today is obviously not that day.

~BB~

I really don't know you from anywhere. BUT your post speaks volumes! ;)

Or are you still confused? lol

~Kisses.

HTG

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

bella will you please stop hating for one day?

Thank you! :P

~Kisses.

HTG

Wow. A noob with a bad reputation came to your defense. Apparently you're not aware that very often a person is judged by the company they keep.

~BB~

ive been on this site for years. just a new name. FAIL :roll:

What for then? You're a dick under this name so I'm sure you were a dick under your old one as well. What was the point in changing?

~BB~

Why are you so angry?

BINGO! She wanted me to get pissy and now she's the one who's gotten PISSY! Rofl Ironic huh?

~Kisses.

HTG

[BellaBellucci]

Yeah, that's a good cop-out isn't it? Is it the blunt talking? lol When cornered about their own bullshit..you tell me I got no idea what I'm talking about. But do YOU? :lol:

~Kisses.

HTG

This shouldn't even be in dispute. You make claims about me as if you know me and you don't. Period. End of story. You just keep on trying there. Maybe someday you'll get me, but today is obviously not that day.

~BB~

I really don't know you from anywhere. BUT your post speaks volumes! ;)

Or are you still confused? lol

~Kisses.

HTG

Yeah I'm confused alright. I'm confused about the post to which you're referring. Care to be a bit more vague?

Is this just a competition of 'get the last word in?' Because if it is, then go ahead. I used to find you entertaining, but apparently like a lot of my toys you've gotten old and busted (in more ways than one) from abuse. I probably should have taken better care of you. I guess I'll donate you and your opinions that nobody wants to the Goodwill or something. Maybe someone else can find some enjoyment out of you that doesn't come from your 'asspussy.'

~BB~

[BellaBellucci]

BINGO! She wanted me to get pissy and now she's the one who's gotten PISSY! Rofl Ironic huh?

~Kisses.

HTG

Scroll up. Unlike some people I know how to apologize when I'm wrong.

~BB~

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

Yeah, that's a good cop-out isn't it? Is it the blunt talking? lol When cornered about their own bullshit..you tell me I got no idea what I'm talking about. But do YOU? :lol:

~Kisses.

HTG

This shouldn't even be in dispute. You make claims about me as if you know me and you don't. Period. End of story. You just keep on trying there. Maybe someday you'll get me, but today is obviously not that day.

~BB~

I really don't know you from anywhere. BUT your post speaks volumes! ;)

Or are you still confused? lol

~Kisses.

HTG

Yeah I'm confused alright. I'm confused about the post to which you're referring. Care to be a bit more vague?

Is this just a competition of 'get the last word in?' Because if it is, then go ahead. I used to find you entertaining, but apparently like a lot of my toys you've gotten old and busted (in more ways than one) from abuse. I probably should have taken better care of you. I guess I'll donate you and your opinions that nobody wants to the Goodwill or something. Maybe someone else can find some enjoyment out of you that doesn't come from your 'asspussy.'

~BB~

Care to explain what? The things you've said and interpreted as? If you didn't get it then what makes you think you'd get it now? Maybe you're just that SLOW up there! lol

Getting the last word? Um, didn't you have this sort of fetish like one guy has mentioned previously at another thread? OLD? Dude, ya OLDER than me! You talk about abuse like it's your life! I don't blame you for the hard life and abuse you've gone through being in foster care and not having any real family around growing up! PITY that! Ha! Pls. don't project your hurt and scars on other people.

~Kisses.

HTG

[BellaBellucci]

Care to explain what? The things you've said and interpreted as? If you didn't get it then what makes you think you'd get it now? Maybe you're just that SLOW up there! lol

Getting the last word? Um, didn't you have this sort of fetish like one guy has mentioned previously at another thread? OLD? Dude, ya OLDER than me! You talk about abuse like it's your life! I don't blame you for the hard life and abuse you've gone through being in foster care and not having any real family around growing up! PITY that! Ha! Pls. don't project your hurt and scars on other people.

~Kisses.

HTG

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUyLwXhqlWU

~BB~

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

...Self explanatory.

~Kisses.

HTG

[SarahG]

so i have been in the ts scene for a little while and i have noticed there is sooo much childish drama. why is this? I mean girls hateing eachother for dumb reasons...girls being sooo crazy that if i date one..they try to find ANYTHING out to cause problems. I dont need any bullshit responses. I just want to know what other tgirls think about this. seriously. Is there any tgirl out there that just does her own thing and doesnt trip over nothing? thanks

T.F.C.

So has your thread answered any of your questions yet or do you need to see fighting IRL with the blood and the ripped out hair and the broken manicures to get the full picture?

[BellaBellucci]

so i have been in the ts scene for a little while and i have noticed there is sooo much childish drama. why is this? I mean girls hateing eachother for dumb reasons...girls being sooo crazy that if i date one..they try to find ANYTHING out to cause problems. I dont need any bullshit responses. I just want to know what other tgirls think about this. seriously. Is there any tgirl out there that just does her own thing and doesnt trip over nothing? thanks

T.F.C.

So has your thread answered any of your questions yet or do you need to see fighting IRL with the blood and the ripped out hair and the broken manicures to get the full picture?

What broken manicure? I could handle her just fine. All nails intact. ;)

~BB~

[SarahG]

so i have been in the ts scene for a little while and i have noticed there is sooo much childish drama. why is this? I mean girls hateing eachother for dumb reasons...girls being sooo crazy that if i date one..they try to find ANYTHING out to cause problems. I dont need any bullshit responses. I just want to know what other tgirls think about this. seriously. Is there any tgirl out there that just does her own thing and doesnt trip over nothing? thanks

T.F.C.

So has your thread answered any of your questions yet or do you need to see fighting IRL with the blood and the ripped out hair and the broken manicures to get the full picture?

What broken manicure? I could handle her just fine. All nails intact. ;)

~BB~

That would deny him the full experience of watching a catfight though.

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

so i have been in the ts scene for a little while and i have noticed there is sooo much childish drama. why is this? I mean girls hateing eachother for dumb reasons...girls being sooo crazy that if i date one..they try to find ANYTHING out to cause problems. I dont need any bullshit responses. I just want to know what other tgirls think about this. seriously. Is there any tgirl out there that just does her own thing and doesnt trip over nothing? thanks

T.F.C.

So has your thread answered any of your questions yet or do you need to see fighting IRL with the blood and the ripped out hair and the broken manicures to get the full picture?

lol Page 2 5th post! I didn't start this..just like on the Dukes Chutes thread. ;)

~Kisses.

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[Tgirlhottie]

I don't go along with the "they were abused and mistreated" excuse for allowing not just drama but downright abusive and hateful stuff.

I think there is sometimes another angle to it. Maybe another reason altogether. Some who think themselves popular or good looking think they can get away with abusive behavior towards others due to "who they are" (popular and good looking) and their abusive behavior is really a status symbol to them. They are kind of saying "look what I can get away with!!!!".

[BellaBellucci]

so i have been in the ts scene for a little while and i have noticed there is sooo much childish drama. why is this? I mean girls hateing eachother for dumb reasons...girls being sooo crazy that if i date one..they try to find ANYTHING out to cause problems. I dont need any bullshit responses. I just want to know what other tgirls think about this. seriously. Is there any tgirl out there that just does her own thing and doesnt trip over nothing? thanks

T.F.C.

So has your thread answered any of your questions yet or do you need to see fighting IRL with the blood and the ripped out hair and the broken manicures to get the full picture?

lol Page 2 5th post! I didn't start this..just like on the Dukes Chutes thread. ;)

~Kisses.

HTG

OMFG You're dense. Calling out your bullshit is not the same as attacking you. Now if I had lowered myself to childish name calling, then that would be a different story, but I have to admit, you're much better at that than I.

See? At least you're good for something, right?

~BB~

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

so i have been in the ts scene for a little while and i have noticed there is sooo much childish drama. why is this? I mean girls hateing eachother for dumb reasons...girls being sooo crazy that if i date one..they try to find ANYTHING out to cause problems. I dont need any bullshit responses. I just want to know what other tgirls think about this. seriously. Is there any tgirl out there that just does her own thing and doesnt trip over nothing? thanks

T.F.C.

So has your thread answered any of your questions yet or do you need to see fighting IRL with the blood and the ripped out hair and the broken manicures to get the full picture?

lol Page 2 5th post! I didn't start this..just like on the Dukes Chutes thread. ;)

~Kisses.

HTG

OMFG You're dense. Calling out your bullshit is not the same as attacking you. Now if I had lowered myself to childish name calling, then that would be a different story, but I have to admit, you're much better at that than I.

See? At least you're good for something, right?

~BB~

Dense? Calling out my Bullshit? How am I dense? I've given an opinion. WHO are YOU to dispute my own experience/s and opinion? Um, a NOBODY! You haven't even lived that long as a woman to even begin to understand nor experience ANYTHING! So STFU!

4 years in the opposite gender you're born with? Really? You THINK you know it all by experience? That's BS! So suck it!

~Kisses.

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[BellaBellucci]

so i have been in the ts scene for a little while and i have noticed there is sooo much childish drama. why is this? I mean girls hateing eachother for dumb reasons...girls being sooo crazy that if i date one..they try to find ANYTHING out to cause problems. I dont need any bullshit responses. I just want to know what other tgirls think about this. seriously. Is there any tgirl out there that just does her own thing and doesnt trip over nothing? thanks

T.F.C.

So has your thread answered any of your questions yet or do you need to see fighting IRL with the blood and the ripped out hair and the broken manicures to get the full picture?

lol Page 2 5th post! I didn't start this..just like on the Dukes Chutes thread. ;)

~Kisses.

HTG

OMFG You're dense. Calling out your bullshit is not the same as attacking you. Now if I had lowered myself to childish name calling, then that would be a different story, but I have to admit, you're much better at that than I.

See? At least you're good for something, right?

~BB~

Dense? Calling out my Bullshit? How am I dense? I've given an opinion. WHO are YOU to dispute my own experience/s and opinion? Um, a NOBODY! You haven't even lived that long as a woman to even begin to understand nor experience ANYTHING! So STFU!

4 years in the opposite gender you're born with? Really? You THINK you know it all by experience? That's BS! So suck it!

~Kisses.

HTG

You of all people should know that time is irrelevant. Experience is much more important. My life is exciting. You work in an office all day. Talk all the shit you want but pushing paper doesn't make you more of a woman even if you've done it for 20 years. Be a mom and a business owner and then you can come talk to me.

~BB~

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

so i have been in the ts scene for a little while and i have noticed there is sooo much childish drama. why is this? I mean girls hateing eachother for dumb reasons...girls being sooo crazy that if i date one..they try to find ANYTHING out to cause problems. I dont need any bullshit responses. I just want to know what other tgirls think about this. seriously. Is there any tgirl out there that just does her own thing and doesnt trip over nothing? thanks

T.F.C.

So has your thread answered any of your questions yet or do you need to see fighting IRL with the blood and the ripped out hair and the broken manicures to get the full picture?

lol Page 2 5th post! I didn't start this..just like on the Dukes Chutes thread. ;)

~Kisses.

HTG

OMFG You're dense. Calling out your bullshit is not the same as attacking you. Now if I had lowered myself to childish name calling, then that would be a different story, but I have to admit, you're much better at that than I.

See? At least you're good for something, right?

~BB~

Dense? Calling out my Bullshit? How am I dense? I've given an opinion. WHO are YOU to dispute my own experience/s and opinion? Um, a NOBODY! You haven't even lived that long as a woman to even begin to understand nor experience ANYTHING! So STFU!

4 years in the opposite gender you're born with? Really? You THINK you know it all by experience? That's BS! So suck it!

~Kisses.

HTG

You of all people should know that time is irrelevant. Experience is much more important. My life is exciting. You work in an office all day. Talk all the shit you want but pushing paper doesn't make you more of a woman even if you've done it for 20 years. Be a mom and a business owner and then you can come talk to me.

~BB~

Sorry but I disagree. Why do you think we have a school system? Grade school, high school and college? Time and experience go hand in hand..you cannot short cut that like transition! Even schools can't teach you some stuffs we acquire over time.

Also for the record, We don't got that much paper works at work. Just charts.

And speaking of business, where's yours now? Nowhere! That's because it was a failed business. Sorta like how you're failing as an escort at the moment and noone is booking you for an hour of thrill! Lmao :lol:

~Kisses.

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[BellaBellucci]

Sorry but I disagree. Why do you think we have a school system? Grade school, high school and college? Time and experience go hand in hand..you cannot short cut that like transition! Even schools can't teach you some stuffs we acquire over time.

Also for the record, We don't got that much paper works at work. Just charts.

And speaking of business, where's yours now? Nowhere! That's because it was a failed business. Sorta like how you're failing as an escort at the moment and noone is booking you for an hour of thrill! Lmao :lol:

~Kisses.

HTG

You disagree? Wait. Hold on while I feign shock. But as usual you're dead wrong.

So the next time you meet a bitter old man who wasted his life make sure you treat him with the utmost courtesy. Don't forget that your parents taught you to respect your elders and what they say goes. Apparently that means even if the elder in question is a loser.

And you should know better by now than to tell me I can't do anything I set my mind to. Seriously, take a look in the mirror and stop projecting your slow painful transition on me. I've never had that problem.

You have seriously got to be THE dumbest bitch I have EVER met, and remember, I'm divorced!

~BB~

[SXFX]

I blame the ill fitting sexy shoes.

[SarahG]

I blame the ill fitting sexy shoes.

LOL.

Somehow I think the catfights would be worse if everyone started wearing steal toed shitkickers.

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

Sorry but I disagree. Why do you think we have a school system? Grade school, high school and college? Time and experience go hand in hand..you cannot short cut that like transition! Even schools can't teach you some stuffs we acquire over time.

Also for the record, We don't got that much paper works at work. Just charts.

And speaking of business, where's yours now? Nowhere! That's because it was a failed business. Sorta like how you're failing as an escort at the moment and noone is booking you for an hour of thrill! Lmao :lol:

~Kisses.

HTG

You disagree? Wait. Hold on while I feign shock. But as usual you're dead wrong.

So the next time you meet a bitter old man who wasted his life make sure you treat him with the utmost courtesy. Don't forget that your parents taught you to respect your elders and what they say goes. Apparently that means even if the elder in question is a loser.

And you should know better by now than to tell me I can't do anything I set my mind to. Seriously, take a look in the mirror and stop projecting your slow painful transition on me. I've never had that problem.

You have seriously got to be THE dumbest bitch I have EVER met, and remember, I'm divorced!

~BB~

Bitter old man? WTF? How is that even relevant to this discussion? God, I swear..Id lose alot of blood just talking any sense to you. Pot has really done a number on YOU!! Jesus! lol

You know what I said is true..you can lie and deny it but time and experience goes hand in hand. You cannot acquire wisdom and experience as a woman if you only lived as one 4 years. Get with it and play catch up, you dumb pot head!!

~Kisses.

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[BellaBellucci]

I blame the ill fitting sexy shoes.

Ugh. I had that problem the other nite when I grabbed the wrong pair while I was rushing out to the club. It was NOT fun.

Maybe that's why I'm so ornery today? It's either that or this monkey on my back named Curious Hara. Fly away home little monkey!

http://tf.org/images/covers/CuriousGeorge.jpg

~BB~

[BritneyBoykins]

Basically they are still faggots, sorry babe.

[BellaBellucci]

Bitter old man? WTF? How is that even relevant to this discussion? God, I swear..Id lose alot of blood just talking any sense to you. Pot has really done a number on YOU!! Jesus! lol

You know what I said is true..you can lie and deny it but time and experience goes hand in hand. You cannot acquire wisdom and experience as a woman if you only lived as one 4 years. Get with it and play catch up, you dumb pot head!!

~Kisses.

HTG

Time and experience DO NOT go hand in hand necessarily. What fucking planet are you from? That's like saying that someone who's been in prison for 20 years has more life experience than someone on the outside. Yeah, sure, if we're talking about anal rape and lunch lines. Idiot.

There are PLENTY of people who are older who have done NOTHING with their lives and you haven't argued the point, have you?

Oh, and another thing: my role models were women. I can GUARANTEE you that yours were other trannies from the gay scene. I said it once and I'll say it again. A man cannot teach another man how to be a woman.

~BB~

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

I blame the ill fitting sexy shoes.

Ugh. I had that problem the other nite when I grabbed the wrong pair while I was rushing out to the club. It was NOT fun.

Maybe that's why I'm so ornery today? It's either that or this monkey on my back named Curious Hara. Fly away home little monkey!

http://media.photobucket.com/image/curious%20geroge/nwehrell/CuriousGeorge.jpg

~BB~

It's not as bad as this hound on my leg! :lol:

http://totallylookslike.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/iggy-pop.jpg

~Kisses.

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[BellaBellucci]

It's not as bad as this hound on my leg! :lol:

http://totallylookslike.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/iggy-pop.jpg

~Kisses.

HTG

Congratulations on your first comeback that's even remotely funny.

~BB~

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

Bitter old man? WTF? How is that even relevant to this discussion? God, I swear..Id lose alot of blood just talking any sense to you. Pot has really done a number on YOU!! Jesus! lol

You know what I said is true..you can lie and deny it but time and experience goes hand in hand. You cannot acquire wisdom and experience as a woman if you only lived as one 4 years. Get with it and play catch up, you dumb pot head!!

~Kisses.

HTG

Time and experience DO NOT go hand in hand necessarily. What fucking planet are you from? That's like saying that someone who's been in prison for 20 years has more life experience than someone on the outside. Yeah, sure, if we're talking about anal rape and lunch lines. Idiot.

There are PLENTY of people who are older who have done NOTHING with their lives and you haven't argued the point, have you?

Oh, and another thing: my role models were women. I can GUARANTEE you that yours were other trannies from the gay scene. I said it once and I'll say it again. A man cannot teach another man how to be a woman.

~BB~

Nice analogy..but fail! That's not even comparable to life as a woman.

On the underlined: YOU mean like YOU! :lol:

Again, about role models..YOU grew up a MAN. Deal! How can that be true? That be like saying Prince Charles role model growing up was Camilla or Charo! lol

~Kisses.

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[BellaBellucci]

Nice analogy..but fail! That's not even comparable to life as a woman.

On the underlined: YOU mean like YOU! :lol:

Again, about role models..YOU grew up a MAN. Deal! How can that be true? That be like saying Prince Charles role model growing up was Camilla or Charo! lol

~Kisses.

HTG

WTF? Are you serious? Someone who's a male child can't model themselves after after a woman when it's clear they have the brain of a female? Do you even know ANYTHING about transexuality or do you just enjoy dressing in womens' panties and high heels? I can't say this enough: you are *THE* DUMBEST bitch I have ever met.

What you're saying is analogous to saying that boys can't like My Little Pony and girls can't like G.I. Joe. Serious question: do you, IN FACT, know ANYTHING at all?

~BB~

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

Nice analogy..but fail! That's not even comparable to life as a woman.

On the underlined: YOU mean like YOU! :lol:

Again, about role models..YOU grew up a MAN. Deal! How can that be true? That be like saying Prince Charles role model growing up was Camilla or Charo! lol

~Kisses.

HTG

WTF? Are you serious? Someone who's a male child can't model themselves after after a woman when it's clear they have the brain of a female?

Well then YOU were never straight, like you claimed. You were a fag in denial back then! lol Brain of a female..I'd believe that.


Do you even know ANYTHING about transexuality

Do YOU?


or do you just enjoy dressing in womens' panties and high heels?

Sorry. I've transitioned early enough for me to even 'try' and steal any girls under garments and heels...unlike YOU! lol


I can't say this enough: you are *THE* DUMBEST bitch I have ever met.

Touche!

~Kisses.

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[Jericho]

I blame the ill fitting sexy shoes.
LOL.
Somehow I think the catfights would be worse if everyone started wearing steal toed shitkickers.

Absolutely.
A catfight with no style would be dreadful! :shrug

[SarahG]

I blame the ill fitting sexy shoes.
LOL.
Somehow I think the catfights would be worse if everyone started wearing steal toed shitkickers.

Absolutely.
A catfight with no style would be dreadful! :shrug

Oh come on, it can't be any worse then the girls who wear open toe shoes that are so small that their toes tangle off end of the shoe.

And at least they're not flip flops.

[thefilmcrewz]

I just broke up with my tgirl gf over some lame shit. People spreading rumors and going on and on. I am so sick of people talking to eachother but not to me about my issues ya know? It makes me laugh in one aspect then piss me off in another. I got kicked out of some gay bar for verbaly fighting with her. Anyone know of a bar or something where tgirls arrnt insane and just down to have a good time and get to know someone? ANYWHERE?!

thanks again guys

dude Im buying you a drink if you're ever in NYC
OMFG I knew I had brothers out there

dude you got it. seriously. i need to go to the east coast for a bit or something and meet normal dudes like me to go out and meet some good girls. thanks for the offer and ill for sure get back to ya!

[thefilmcrewz]

so i have been in the ts scene for a little while and i have noticed there is sooo much childish drama. why is this? I mean girls hateing eachother for dumb reasons...girls being sooo crazy that if i date one..they try to find ANYTHING out to cause problems. I dont need any bullshit responses. I just want to know what other tgirls think about this. seriously. Is there any tgirl out there that just does her own thing and doesnt trip over nothing? thanks

T.F.C.

So has your thread answered any of your questions yet or do you need to see fighting IRL with the blood and the ripped out hair and the broken manicures to get the full picture?


yeah no shit. EXACTLY WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT!!!
why are these two fighting? im not gonna sit here and read every thing they say to eachother. u guys have a problem? work it out in person! My point exactly! This thread was made to be DRAMA FREE and the these two start in with their bullshit. YOURE ON AN INTERNET MESSAGE BOARD!!! GET FUCKING REAL!!!

[BellaBellucci]

so i have been in the ts scene for a little while and i have noticed there is sooo much childish drama. why is this? I mean girls hateing eachother for dumb reasons...girls being sooo crazy that if i date one..they try to find ANYTHING out to cause problems. I dont need any bullshit responses. I just want to know what other tgirls think about this. seriously. Is there any tgirl out there that just does her own thing and doesnt trip over nothing? thanks

T.F.C.

So has your thread answered any of your questions yet or do you need to see fighting IRL with the blood and the ripped out hair and the broken manicures to get the full picture?

yeah no shit. EXACTLY WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT!!!
why are these two fighting? im not gonna sit here and read every thing they say to eachother. u guys have a problem? work it out in person! My point exactly! This thread was made to be DRAMA FREE and the these two start in with their bullshit. YOURE ON AN INTERNET MESSAGE BOARD!!! GET FUCKING REAL!!!

Hey that's not fair! I'm here for the marketing exposure. In my case, there's a method to my madness. Why she's here none of us will ever know apparently.

~BB~

[celticgrafix]

what this dude makes drama a good thing