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Fox
06-28-2009, 03:09 AM
June 27, 2009

After the sudden death of Michael Jackson Evan Chandler tells the truth.

In 1993, Chandler told a psychiatrist and police that he and Jackson had engaged in sexual acts that included oral sex, the boy gave detailed description of Jackson’s genitals. The case was settled out of court for a reported $22 million, but the strain led Jackson to begin taking painkillers. Eventually he became addicted.

Now maybe for the remorse of his death Chandler decides to tell us the truth. ” I never meant to lie and destroy Michael Jackson but my father made me to tell only lies. Now i can’t tell Michael how much i’m sorry and if he will forgive me ”.Evan Chandler was tape-recorded saying amongst other things, “If I go through with this, I win big-time. There’s no way I lose. I will get everything I want and they will be destroyed forever…

Under the influence of a controversial father (Jordan Chandler) told his son to tell that Jackson had touched his penis.Jordan Chandler then told a psychiatrist and later police that he and Jackson had engaged in acts of kissing, masturbation and oral sex, as well as giving a detailed description of what he alleged were the singer’s genitals.
” Now for the first time i can’t bare to lie anymore. Michael Jackson didn’t do anything to me, all was my father lies to escape from being poor.”

Sauce (Source) (http://awkwardstar.wordpress.com/2009/06/27/jordan-chandler-admits-he-lied-about-michael-jackson/)

Edit: I should probably point out (in case it isn't obvious) that this isn't confirmed yet, but this may be the first of many coming forward in the press about what may or may not have happened involving Mike.

JonnyT
06-28-2009, 03:22 AM
this doesnt surprise me at all. i never believed the child stories about michael. he was a gentle soul and wouldnt hurt or take advantage of anyone. he missed a major part of his life due to performing and he just wanted the childhood he lost. as much money as he made, he couldnt buy back his childhood. his father also abused him which many of us have gone thru and survived just fine but in michaels case he just wanted to be loved. his father damaged him in many ways. michael jackson was an incredibly intelligent and creative person that changed the music and video industry as no one before him could. he made MTV. he changed how records were produced and marketed. he changed the ways royalties are paid which has benefited every professional recording artist since michael.

God Bless Michael Jackson. May he rest in peace and his positive legacy live on forever!

Legend
06-28-2009, 05:44 AM
I'm not surrpised as well.

R.I.P Micheal Jackson

Solitary Brother
06-28-2009, 06:32 AM
You see this is what Im talking about right here...
People today are just HORRIBLE thats why you HAVE TO beat peoples ass...ITS A MUST.
That poor man put up with all that ridicule and hate over a lie.
Some people just need their ass seriously beat and this kind of shit proves why.

Realgirls4me
06-28-2009, 06:45 AM
... The story has not been legitimized yet. Don't behave like Fox News sheep. Wait and see if there is some truth behind this.

cheez
06-28-2009, 06:51 AM
this story looks like a complete and total fabrication. no real journalist put the story together with this inordinate number of ridiculous errors in spelling, syntax and grammar.
also I have to say this would probably make the New York Times a whole lot quicker than some random website.
I find it amazing that some people are so willing to forgive MJ even in the face of overwhelming evidence that he acted improperly with young children (including giving them wine and sleeping in beds with them presumably after they'd ingested alcohol, which even if he never touched the kids would be pretty fucking sick all by itself...)

giovanni_hotel
06-28-2009, 07:10 AM
Easy, fam.

This is an uncorroborated story that hasn't been sourced.

As of right now, it's meaningless. But this is the kind of crap I see filling the pages of US, People, and the National Inquirer in the next few weeks.

I hope Mr, Chandler, now a grown man, has the courage and character to finally come forward and tell the truth about what actually happened between him and Michael.

If he admits he DID lie about Michael and the child molestation charges, I expect to hear a story soon after about Mr. Chandler being randomly beaten within an inch of his life.

Realgirls4me
06-28-2009, 07:25 AM
Easy, fam.

This is an uncorroborated story that hasn't been sourced.

I hope Mr, Chandler, now a grown man, has the courage and character to finally come forward and tell the truth about what actually happened between him and Michael.

If he admits he DID lie about Michael and the child molestation charges, I expect to hear a story soon after about Mr. Chandler being randomly beaten within an inch of his life.

This isn't likely to happen. Would you admit that you had a role in making one of the world's most beloved icon's life a living hell? Don't hold your breath, in other words. Even though he was only 13 at the time, I doubt his fans are in a very forgiving mood right now.

giovanni_hotel
06-28-2009, 07:54 AM
True, Realgirls4me, but this Chandler cat seems like he's got his alibi all worked out:

Daddy made me do it!!!

I hope he thinks that story will give him enough cover to clear his conscience, but dude doesn't understand there are MJ fans out there would smoke this kid for destroyng Michael's life for some easy cash.

What I always wondered about though is how he was able to give a 'detailed' description of MJ's willy?
The media reported that Chandler gave this testimony to investigators, but was it ever verified to be accurate?

I mean, I could describe Ruby's dingaling, but that doesn't mean I've been up close and personal inside her panties!!:)

Hara_Juku Tgirl
06-28-2009, 09:20 AM
I'm not dismissing it, but given Michael Jackson's projected eccentric 'image'.i.e. his physical feminization/transformation etc., some of his personal advisers and or close family should have advised and protected Michael's best interest by telling him NOT to invite children into his bedroom IMHO. :2cent

I could easily see how this have destroyed him (IF it were true)!

~Kisses.

HTG

Nautica
06-28-2009, 12:07 PM
Seeing as how his dad is an ABUSIVE FUCK.. Who knows.. :evil:


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,209470,00.html


Ex-Jacko Accuser in Court Against Dad
Saturday, August 19, 2006

By Roger Friedman


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Jacko: $20 Mil Kid Gets Order Against Dad

A strange turn of events among the peripheral people in Michael Jackson’s odd world has taken place.

According to court papers obtained by this column, the young man who, in 1994, settled with Michael Jackson for $20 million was allegedly physically assaulted last year by his own father.

Jordan Chandler, now 26, filed a request for a restraining order against his father on August 5, 2005. The reason for the order was that Evan Chandler, formerly a dentist and an aspiring screenwriter, had allegedly hit Jordan over the head from behind with a twelve and a half pound weight. He’d also allegedly sprayed him in the face with mace and tried to choke him.


The two men, according to court papers, were living together in a luxury apartment in New Jersey.

The bizarre case was remanded to trial by a pair of appellate judges on June 8th of this year. This followed a reversal of the restraining order by another judge who felt that Evan Chandler’s actions did not represent a pattern of abuse and didn’t qualify as domestic abuse. The appellate judges disagreed, reinstated the restraining order, and sent the case to trial.

These last judges sounded a little surprised in their ruling that the restraining order had been lifted in the first place. “The judge also found that the weight could cause serious bodily injury or death,” they wrote, indicating that they felt Evan Chandler meant to harm his son.

This means that soon enough Evan and Jordan Chandler will be in a public dispute in a New Jersey courtroom. For Jackson watchers, this is nothing short of shocking: the Chandlers have done everything possible to remain out of the public eye since settling with Jackson in 1994 for a little over $20 million.

In what has now been a much-reported story, Jordy Chandler, then 12 years old, alleged that Jackson molested him on numerous occasions between 1991 and 1994. His uncle, Ray Chandler, published a book about the case in 2005, as did Jackson’s longtime PR man, Bob Jones. Both books detailed Jackson’s inappropriate relationship with the boy; Ray Chandler’s book also recounted the negotiations with Jackson’s attorney, Bert Fields, and his investigator, Anthony Pellicano, by which his brother and nephew got the $20 million.

At the time of this episode, Evan Chandler was divorced from Jordy’s mother, June, who had custody of their son and conceded that she’d let Jackson sleep in the boy’s room in her house for months without supervision. Jackson was then about 35 years old. Subsequently, June Chandler was cut off from her son and as of last year had not seen or spoken to him in a dozen years. She testified to all of this in Jackson’s 2005 child molestation trial.

A falling out between Jordy and Evan Chandler of this serious a nature immediately reveals a couple of things: that at the age of 25 Jordy was still living with his father, and that they had settled into a luxury apartment in New Jersey with panoramic views of Manhattan.

Prior to this they had owned a beach house in Westhampton, New York, and had had an apartment in New York. Public records show, however, that Jordy sold the beach house for $2.9 million in 2003. He bought a condo for $775,000 in West Harlem in June 2005 one week after Jackson was acquitted of child molestation and about six weeks before he accused his father of attacking him. At the time he purchased the coop, Jordy gave a PO Box in Jersey City as his address. It’s only conjecture, but it’s likely that Evan Chandler—whom his brother Raymond had said in interviews was seriously ill in 2005—didn’t want his son to leave him.

News of the Chandlers’ domestic dispute comes as Jackson remains on the down-low somewhere in Europe, either in London or Dublin, as his lawyers try to work out what will become of his languishing career. Having beaten the child molestation charge, Jackson turned himself into a self-exiled celebrity. His Neverland Ranch was shuttered after California officials fined him for not paying his employees for four months and letting their insurance lapse. A $25 million lien was placed against Neverland in June in order to pay off one of Jackson’s attorneys. And a group of investors in Rancho Palos Verdes, California is currently holding a $2.2 mortgage on Jackson’s parent’s home in Encino, California.

Nautica
06-28-2009, 12:15 PM
“The judge also found that the weight could cause serious bodily injury or death,” they wrote, indicating that they felt Evan Chandler meant to harm his son.



Maybe he's been threatening to tell the truth for a while?

Teydyn
06-28-2009, 02:16 PM
Ok, what about this scenario? Whoever is going to profit from MJ death paid this kid money to say he lied about his accusations? A newly "redeemed" MJ can be sold better...

Even IF he says he lied doesnt mean he did...

giovanni_hotel
06-28-2009, 04:58 PM
Too complicated, Teydyn, and I can't imagine someone would pay the kid millions at this point to say he lied if he was telling the truth in the beginning.

Why would Chandler literally put his life on the line like that by going public and saying he 'lied' when he said originally that MJ molested him?

Is more money worth smearing his entire family's name?

Sure, there are high powered record execs and celebs who could raise enough cash, (at least seven figures I would guess), to get Chandler to recant his story, but when you consider how many hundreds of kids have been through Neverland Ranch, and the dozens more who have stayed overnight in MJ's bedroom, it's hard to believe Michael Jackson paid all of them off so he could screw around with them.

Also, it's hard to believe a true pedophile could satiate his desire over a lifetime by sexually molesting only two kids.

Silcc69
06-28-2009, 06:12 PM
Hence why MJ only should've bought over black kids. This smear campaign never would've happened.

Silcc69
06-28-2009, 06:53 PM
Would'nt this be perjury too?

giovanni_hotel
06-28-2009, 07:34 PM
I don't wanna be racist about it, and sure there are just as many Black parents out there looking for a hustle as there are any other race/ethnicity, but if MJ had kept his sleepovers to strictly Black kids or relatives and family members, IMO none of this crap would have likely ever happened.

But apparently ol' Mike had issues with skin color...

jjhill
06-28-2009, 07:36 PM
Mike from the G.I. he probably was thinking "I'm not letting those n****s sleep over at my house" lol j/p j/p

Nautica
06-29-2009, 12:41 AM
[quote="giovanni_hotel"] Is more money worth smearing his entire family's name?

They smeared their name when they sold their child for $20million. No true and caring parent/s on the face of this earth would accept money over what 'supposedly' happened.

sugdaddie69
06-29-2009, 01:01 AM
[quote=giovanni_hotel] Is more money worth smearing his entire family's name?

They smeared their name when they sold their child for $20million. No true and caring parent/s on the face of this earth would accept money over what 'supposedly' happened. :claps

cheez
06-29-2009, 06:58 AM
I guess nobody noticed that the "news source" got the names of the father and son mixed up??
yeah, that's reliable... :roll:

Nautica
06-29-2009, 07:13 AM
Yeah, I saw that, too.

Fox
06-29-2009, 07:19 AM
Like I said "in case it wasn't obvious." I thought it might possibly be a precursor to an official story but that ain't the case.

chefmike
06-29-2009, 04:28 PM
The pedo popster innocent? Sure he was. He's as innocent as OJ. You clowns been drinking too much jesus juice....

Quiet Reflections
06-29-2009, 08:49 PM
its like the boy that cried wolf. Even if he is telling the truth now nobody will believe him or care

Nautica
06-30-2009, 12:59 AM
99% of people don't do research and will always play follow the leader. This is why 1% has all the money. **Edit:Let me alter this for the 'politically correct' by stating..This is 1 of the MAIN reasons 1% has MOST of the money.**

The, ahem, dad hated Michael for a while saying he 'stole' his family. Michael's ridiculous insurance company chose to pay them off and get it over with. Even the mother was unconvinced.

They have NOTHING saying M.J. 'DID' it and plenty saying he 'DIDN'T '. There wasn't even a match.

So many drones just went with what they wanted to go with. Too much lack of education in the world.

Good thing he didn't settle with those pathetic leeches on that last case which was DENIED.

There's so much on that, so called, dad out there .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0k08tiQF-8

MrF
06-30-2009, 04:15 AM
Hey, 22M$ is a lot of money. Very tempting !

Seeing that Chandler got his cash, another child-grown-up named Arviso approached the same lawyer who successfully won the 22M$. Curiously, his family didn't go to the police. Instead, the lawyer asked a psychiatrist to examine Arviso and the psych felt obliged by law to inform the police with the story, which triggered a criminal investigation/trial. After non-credible witnesses who should have come forward 10 years earlier if they had info, and after no other kids came forward except Arviso's family, the jury acquitted. Get the facts, folks.

Some say Jackson beat the rap because he had money. Well, maybe he attracted the rap because he had money ? Granted he was weird and that I don't know for sure if he was innocent or guilty, but I'm tired of people giving opinions and no facts.

cheez
06-30-2009, 04:18 AM
Like I said "in case it wasn't obvious." I thought it might possibly be a precursor to an official story but that ain't the case.

yeah but this was ridiculous. Might as well be putting up Bigfoot stories too...It was that poorly written and researched.

cheez
06-30-2009, 04:26 AM
Hey, 22M$ is a lot of money. Very tempting !

Seeing that Chandler got his cash, another child-grown-up named Arviso approached the same lawyer who successfully won the 22M$. Curiously, his family didn't go to the police. Instead, the lawyer asked a psychiatrist to examine Arviso and the psych felt obliged by law to inform the police with the story, which triggered a criminal investigation/trial. After non-credible witnesses who should have come forward 10 years earlier if they had info, and after no other kids came forward except Arviso's family, the jury acquitted. Get the facts, folks.

Some say Jackson beat the rap because he had money. Well, maybe he attracted the rap because he had money ? Granted he was weird and that I don't know for sure if he was innocent or guilty, but I'm tired of people giving opinions and no facts.

Jackson attracted the rap because he let children sleep with him in his bed. A number of children, a lot.
If he never did that, do you think he'd still have been having problems?
He has admitted he doesn't get along with adults and feels like he is regaining his childhood in his later life. A man in his forties needing to sleep with children in a bed to feel safe and happy. This is all evidence of societal and mental disorder. I'd love to see if you'd let the guy next door do half this stuff, say half this stuff and not worry about his behavior.
MJ spent millions in money to defer trials because of his inability to stop having other people's children in his bed. If something costs you millions, something people are advising you against, and you can't stop doing it, it's something of an addiction isn't it?

MrF
06-30-2009, 02:03 PM
^ I agree with you that MJ had a mental disorder and that having children in his bed is extremely creepy -- which begs the question: why did their parents allow it ?

If I recall correctly this behavior was well-established and MJ even admitted to it.

I was only reminding the readers that the criminal case was very weak and MJ was acquitted, and not just on technicalities. One may read about the case. You have to admit it's at least possible that someone would try to exploit for financial gain (out-of-court settlement) this creepy image of a kid in his bed, and if you read about the case it looks like that might have happened. Finally, let me admit I not an expert on the case.

cheez
06-30-2009, 06:35 PM
^ I agree with you that MJ had a mental disorder and that having children in his bed is extremely creepy -- which begs the question: why did their parents allow it ?

If I recall correctly this behavior was well-established and MJ even admitted to it.

I was only reminding the readers that the criminal case was very weak and MJ was acquitted, and not just on technicalities. One may read about the case. You have to admit it's at least possible that someone would try to exploit for financial gain (out-of-court settlement) this creepy image of a kid in his bed, and if you read about the case it looks like that might have happened. Finally, let me admit I not an expert on the case.

It's possible of course, but I find it more likely that an adult man suffering a various number of mental disorders and societal discomfort had some other intent in mind. Also don't forget there are plenty of sexual fetishes that play out without necessarily making direct physical contact. But it was a flat out incorrect behavior and he should have never been indulged in it and his own behavior made it possible to extort him, if that was the case. His own behavior.
As to why these parents did it, I honestly have no idea.
And the case was weak in the same way that any case where you don't have physical evidence is weak.
http://www.apa.org/releases/sexabuse/
I quote: "Conclusive physical evidence of sexual abuse is relatively rare in suspected cases."
All you have to do in these cases is create doubt,( i.e. cast doubt on the people on the other side of the case ) which is the easiest thing in the world to do as people believe they need overwhelming evidence. OJ walked once on murder as did Robert Blake...
Look at how many people totally overlook MJ's history of admitted mental problems. Not once was he urged to get treatment for his addiction to plastic surgery, his problems adjusting in society. Nope he was a "genius" and the tributes go on and on.

Silcc69
06-30-2009, 06:53 PM
^ I agree with you that MJ had a mental disorder and that having children in his bed is extremely creepy -- which begs the question: why did their parents allow it ?

If I recall correctly this behavior was well-established and MJ even admitted to it.

I was only reminding the readers that the criminal case was very weak and MJ was acquitted, and not just on technicalities. One may read about the case. You have to admit it's at least possible that someone would try to exploit for financial gain (out-of-court settlement) this creepy image of a kid in his bed, and if you read about the case it looks like that might have happened. Finally, let me admit I not an expert on the case.

It's possible of course, but I find it more likely that an adult man suffering a various number of mental disorders and societal discomfort had some other intent in mind. Also don't forget there are plenty of sexual fetishes that play out without necessarily making direct physical contact. But it was a flat out incorrect behavior and he should have never been indulged in it and his own behavior made it possible to extort him, if that was the case. His own behavior.
As to why these parents did it, I honestly have no idea.
And the case was weak in the same way that any case where you don't have physical evidence is weak.
http://www.apa.org/releases/sexabuse/
I quote: "Conclusive physical evidence of sexual abuse is relatively rare in suspected cases."
All you have to do in these cases is create doubt,( i.e. cast doubt on the people on the other side of the case ) which is the easiest thing in the world to do as people believe they need overwhelming evidence. OJ walked once on murder as did Robert Blake...
Look at how many people totally overlook MJ's history of admitted mental problems. Not once was he urged to get treatment for his addiction to plastic surgery, his problems adjusting in society. Nope he was a "genius" and the tributes go on and on.

What people if anything the media would ridicule the man mostly. There is not denying that he had mental issues that were caused from his abnormal well non existent childhood.

raybbaby
06-30-2009, 09:24 PM
I have yet to see this story repeated anywhere else, so I'm thinking it's made up. If this guy really did recant, it would have exploded on the news by now, it would be a huge story. But it hasn't, so I'm guessing it's fake.

Nikka
06-30-2009, 10:51 PM
r.i.p. michael :(

cheez
07-01-2009, 04:20 AM
^ I agree with you that MJ had a mental disorder and that having children in his bed is extremely creepy -- which begs the question: why did their parents allow it ?

If I recall correctly this behavior was well-established and MJ even admitted to it.

I was only reminding the readers that the criminal case was very weak and MJ was acquitted, and not just on technicalities. One may read about the case. You have to admit it's at least possible that someone would try to exploit for financial gain (out-of-court settlement) this creepy image of a kid in his bed, and if you read about the case it looks like that might have happened. Finally, let me admit I not an expert on the case.

It's possible of course, but I find it more likely that an adult man suffering a various number of mental disorders and societal discomfort had some other intent in mind. Also don't forget there are plenty of sexual fetishes that play out without necessarily making direct physical contact. But it was a flat out incorrect behavior and he should have never been indulged in it and his own behavior made it possible to extort him, if that was the case. His own behavior.
As to why these parents did it, I honestly have no idea.
And the case was weak in the same way that any case where you don't have physical evidence is weak.
http://www.apa.org/releases/sexabuse/
I quote: "Conclusive physical evidence of sexual abuse is relatively rare in suspected cases."
All you have to do in these cases is create doubt,( i.e. cast doubt on the people on the other side of the case ) which is the easiest thing in the world to do as people believe they need overwhelming evidence. OJ walked once on murder as did Robert Blake...
Look at how many people totally overlook MJ's history of admitted mental problems. Not once was he urged to get treatment for his addiction to plastic surgery, his problems adjusting in society. Nope he was a "genius" and the tributes go on and on.

What people if anything the media would ridicule the man mostly. There is not denying that he had mental issues that were caused from his abnormal well non existent childhood.


So his childhood was fucked up.
So what?
I bet there are plenty of kids right now who are eating out of garbage cans who wish they were millionaires at ten years and had fans worldwide.
A fucked up childhood doesn't bestow the right to do anything you want as an adult. Plenty of fucked up childhoods out there and the people either turn out fine or seek help. Michael did neither.

wolfhound
07-01-2009, 09:18 AM
this is bullshit. if he said that it was to escape jacksons insane fans. police have said that his description of jacksons genitals was accurate. whether the last accusation was true is less clear. sounded like bullshit but who knows

Nautica
07-01-2009, 11:09 AM
r.i.p. michael :(

Perfectly stated.


And NO WHERE does it state the description was a match. They mentioned there was NO DEFINITIVE MATCH as they were trying to enlarge photos and create some type of match.