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TsVanessa69
05-30-2009, 06:16 PM
I know some people are going to interpet what I say in so many ways, but here is the issue.
I moved to an upper middle class white neighborhood in 2003. I LOVE my apartment, its a 2 flat, my landlord lives upstairs, and he is kool with what I do because he "dates" ts. And in the back there are 2 smaller apartments. I travel to NYC alot, and in all these years, I have never had a problem, my neighbors are all kool respectable people. NEVER had an issue. So last summer a gay black man moved into the back apartment with a 17 year old foster child. when they first moved in, my Shwinn bycycle was stolen. We, the landlord and I were puzzled and said maybe somebody left the door open and a stranger came in and took it. Mind you our basement is always loked and only those in the building have acess to the basement. SO I bought a second bike for myself, and at the same time my bf got a dirtbike. Fast forward to January. My landlord comes to me and says check my private storage area because his sons $600 mountain bike was stolen. I go and BOTH bikes are gone and a printer. We call the police, nothing happens. 2 weeks agao the foster kid is in front of the building, and his friend is riding MY bike down the street. So I go to the currancy exchange on the corner. He pulled the screen out of my front window, left in on the ground, crawled through th window and stole $250 and a Cannon camera off my tv top.
I get home, call the police, make a report, and talk to the gay black man about what his son did. The guy said let the police do what they have to do. Now yesterday I go to work, rent is due, and I have in an envelope $1,100 which is my rent money, and I had $150 just thrown in there because I dont take cash or credit cards to work. The bitch stole all the money, all the credit cards, and my other camera. The same police come back, this mind you the 3rd time in less than a month. They can only do fingerprints they say on the crime scene. Both times a screen was removed from the window. BUT my landlord moved the screen from the scene both times so they said they cant print it once it is moved. The police think I am bullshitting, and wont come back. Yet I am out of 3 bikes, 2 cameras and over $1500 in cash. Both robberies, he was seen at the scene. But not in the building, WHAT CAN I DO???

SarahG
05-30-2009, 06:23 PM
Surveillance. Set up some security cameras, ideally hidden, and get the idiot on tape.

If your neighbors are also having problems, maybe get them to form a neighborhood watch-type of thing so that more people know to grab their cameras whenever something goes down.

You could hire a PI to find evidence to what's going on (this would cost a bit more).

The cops aren't going to do shit unless you have irrefutable proof like the person being on tape, or someone capturing him red handed. Once you get that proof, IF its the guy's son- sue the father for the amount everything stolen was worth.

peggygee
05-30-2009, 06:25 PM
Vanessa, I am sorry to hear of your loss, having your home violated is
a very traumatic thing, indeed it may feel like rape in the sense of the
personal violation.

At a minimum I would recommend renters insurance which would
compensate you in the event of theft, fire or other disasters.

Also I would suggest that you invest in a security system, even add on
IP cameras so that you could monitor your home when you are away.

And finally given the cash nature of your business you may want to invest
in a safe.

TsVanessa69
05-30-2009, 06:46 PM
Surveillance. Set up some security cameras, ideally hidden, and get the idiot on tape.

If your neighbors are also having problems, maybe get them to form a neighborhood watch-type of thing so that more people know to grab their cameras whenever something goes down.

You could hire a PI to find evidence to what's going on (this would cost a bit more).

The cops aren't going to do shit unless you have irrefutable proof like the person being on tape, or someone capturing him red handed. Once you get that proof, IF its the guy's son- sue the father for the amount everything stolen was worth.
The neighbors are not having problems. The bastard has only robbed me, and why? Because even after calling the police, he got away with it all 3 times, he knows the father wont do shit, and now he see's the police wont do shit.

TsVanessa69
05-30-2009, 06:50 PM
Vanessa, I am sorry to hear of your loss, having your home violated is
a very traumatic thing, indeed it may feel like rape in the sense of the
personal violation.

At a minimum I would recommend renters insurance which would
compensate you in the event of theft, fire or other disasters.

Also I would suggest that you invest in a security system, even add on
IP cameras so that you could monitor your home when you are away.

And finally given the cash nature of your business you may want to invest
in a safe.
I usually dont have large sums, only to pay bills.
The $250 stolen was for my laser treatment on my legs, and the $1,100 was my rent money. before those people moved in the building, everything was ok. The foster father allowing his son dto do that is what gets me the most. And he;s gay, which is one of the reasons I dont like gay people, they are shitty messes and I stay as far away as I can. My mother would have kicked my ass when the bikes came up missing, this fool just says let the police do their job, yet he collects a check to take care of that kid.

deee757
05-30-2009, 07:07 PM
(Really want to ask why the guys race and sexual preference were brought up, being that this is about the foster child, but i wont, no need for this to go to 20 pages)

When he broke in the first time why would you have that much cash in an envelope? But I think the surveillance thing is a good idea. Secure your valuables, rottweilers are very effective, desert eagles are great pets to have as well. If the child is in foster care than he has a social worker that you can contact and inform them of the situation.... all i have for now

MarkD
05-30-2009, 07:08 PM
I am very sorry for what has happenned to you but I am having a very hard time not being offended by the comments like "white neighborhood" and "gay black man" as aren't we all just people?

I just kind of feel like I would expect a bit more from someone of ethnic background. My x-gf was black as well as ts and know talk like that would have really offended her.

It sounds as though the person commiting these crimes are getting rather brazen and from what you are saying it looks as though you might be able to lure them in and get video or photo proof of them taking your things. I would also consider renters insurance as mine is $9 a month and I get a discount on my auto insuranc for having it which pays for it in the end.

I have had things stolen from me and it is the worst feeling in the world and I am so sorry you have to go through this.

TsVanessa69
05-30-2009, 07:17 PM
(Really want to ask why the guys race and sexual preference were brought up, being that this is about the foster child, but i wont, no need for this to go to 20 pages)

When he broke in the first time why would you have that much cash in an envelope? But I think the surveillance thing is a good idea. Secure your valuables, rottweilers are very effective, desert eagles are great pets to have as well. If the child is in foster care than he has a social worker that you can contact and inform them of the situation.... all i have for now
As I said before, I had $250 of money I worked for in the living room of an apartment thet I pay $1,100 a month for. I should be abled to leave what I want in my own private home. The first time, he stole the $250 which was to pay for a laser treatment the next day. The second time he stole my rent money which I have to pay in cash. But bottom line, its my home.

TsVanessa69
05-30-2009, 07:21 PM
I am very sorry for what has happenned to you but I am having a very hard time not being offended by the comments like "white neighborhood" and "gay black man" as aren't we all just people?

I just kind of feel like I would expect a bit more from someone of ethnic background. My x-gf was black as well as ts and know talk like that would have really offended her.

It sounds as though the person commiting these crimes are getting rather brazen and from what you are saying it looks as though you might be able to lure them in and get video or photo proof of them taking your things. I would also consider renters insurance as mine is $9 a month and I get a discount on my auto insuranc for having it which pays for it in the end.

I have had things stolen from me and it is the worst feeling in the world and I am so sorry you have to go through this.
\Well how do you think I feel, being a transwoman of color, and having a person of color with a father who is gay robbing me for fun? I moved where I did to avoid all that.

MarkD
05-30-2009, 07:32 PM
Wasn't it Dr. King who wished that his kids would be judged not on the color of their skin but the the content of their character?

I live in an extremely upscale neighborhood in Santa Monica and have been stolen from just the same as you. Does it make my stereotyping of people that I don't have any proof of correct?

I just feel comments such as yours does us no good as a country, especially from someone of your race and sexual orientation is all.

brickcitybrother
05-30-2009, 07:42 PM
I think the mentions of race and sexuality are very surprising given who you are. But I'm sure your comments are more revealing than many will acknowledge.

Leaving that aside, you leave money in an envelope in your house (AFTER YOU'VE HAD A BREAK IN AND DID NOT DO ANYTHING TO SECURE THE LOCATION?!?!?!). Leaving aside the question of whether there was $250 or $150 with your rent money, I am still lost as to your landlord's lack of concern about the situation. Also, why would you "go to the currancy exchange on the corner" as opposed to turning around and going inside to call the police or doing so on your cell phone (which you carry everywhere)? I am not saying you needed to confront the bike rider or your young neighbor, but your actions are baffling.

I will make a suggestion, as opposed to only making observations:

1. SECURE YOUR WINDOWS

2. File a small claims case against the foster father. Have your witnesses, the police reports, damage reports and subpeonas ready for the police officers. WHY DO THIS? Well if the foster father is only interested in the monthly check - your suit will surely be for more than that amount. And that will cost him not to mention that child services will be very interested the the juvenile's activities. If he is interested in the child, then he will realize the damage that the child is doing to him and himself and that will wake him up.

Good Luck on handling the child of your black gay neighbor.

TsVanessa69
05-30-2009, 07:56 PM
I think the mentions of race and sexuality are very surprising given who you are. But I'm sure your comments are more revealing than many will acknowledge.

Leaving that aside, you leave money in an envelope in your house (AFTER YOU'VE HAD A BREAK IN AND DID NOT DO ANYTHING TO SECURE THE LOCATION?!?!?!). Leaving aside the question of whether there was $250 or $150 with your rent money, I am still lost as to your landlord's lack of concern about the situation. Also, why would you "go to the currancy exchange on the corner" as opposed to turning around and going inside to call the police or doing so on your cell phone (which you carry everywhere)? I am not saying you needed to confront the bike rider or your young neighbor, but your actions are baffling.

I will make a suggestion, as opposed to only making observations:

1. SECURE YOUR WINDOWS

2. File a small claims case against the foster father. Have your witnesses, the police reports, damage reports and subpeonas ready for the police officers. WHY DO THIS? Well if the foster father is only interested in the monthly check - your suit will surely be for more than that amount. And that will cost him not to mention that child services will be very interested the the juvenile's activities. If he is interested in the child, then he will realize the damage that the child is doing to him and himself and that will wake him up.

Good Luck on handling the child of your black gay neighbor.
The kid on my bike was not alone so there was a total of 3 guys, but since a police report was already made on the bikes, I had to call the DETECTIVE, not the POLICE. The detectives number was on the police report, and calling 911 in chicago doesnt get an immidiate response anyway even if i was shot, they take there time to get there. So yes I went to the Currency Exchange to pay bills and was going to inform the detective when I got home that I saw who was on the bike.
The police said it was the landlords responsibility to secure the place after the first call.
The money stolen the second time was my RENT money, It is the end of the month and rent is due, so why wouldnt I have my rent money in MY apartment. Needless to say I was not going to pay the rent after it was stolen and the landlord agreed, that its not fair that somebody in the building is robbing me. But I'm wondering, what role does my landlord play in this, as he knew and filed a repeort against the SAME kid.

TsVanessa69
05-30-2009, 08:00 PM
Wasn't it Dr. King who wished that his kids would be judged not on the color of their skin but the the content of their character?

I live in an extremely upscale neighborhood in Santa Monica and have been stolen from just the same as you. Does it make my stereotyping of people that I don't have any proof of correct?

I just feel comments such as yours does us no good as a country, especially from someone of your race and sexual orientation is all.
In both robberies, he was seen at the scene. In both robberies the foster father acknowledged that it probably was his kid. Yet he said he will see what the police will do. The police said that since we didnt see him actually take the money, they cant arrest him. At the end of the day, this kid has not only robbed me but stolen from the landlord too. I just think my landlord wont do shit because he is scared of them.

2009AD
05-30-2009, 08:07 PM
Sucks to get robbed, but why did you leave more than $1000 in cash and credit cards in your place, especially after $250 were stolen during the previous break in? That's almost like leaving the car keys dangling from the ignition.

Renter's insurance is a good idea. Consider investing in a surveillance/security system. Shut all windows when you're not at home. Do not leave large amounts of cash laying around at home. Pay your rent by check.


I know some people are going to interpet what I say in so many ways, but here is the issue.

I moved to an upper middle class white neighborhood in 2003. I LOVE my apartment, its a 2 flat, my landlord lives upstairs, and he is kool with what I do because he "dates" ts. And in the back there are 2 smaller apartments. I travel to NYC alot, and in all these years, I have never had a problem, my neighbors are all kool respectable people. NEVER had an issue.

So last summer a gay black man moved into the back apartment with a 17 year old foster child. when they first moved in, my Shwinn bycycle was stolen. We, the landlord and I were puzzled and said maybe somebody left the door open and a stranger came in and took it. Mind you our basement is always loked and only those in the building have acess to the basement.

SO I bought a second bike for myself, and at the same time my bf got a dirtbike. Fast forward to January. My landlord comes to me and says check my private storage area because his sons $600 mountain bike was stolen. I go and BOTH bikes are gone and a printer. We call the police, nothing happens. 2 weeks agao the foster kid is in front of the building, and his friend is riding MY bike down the street.

So I go to the currancy exchange on the corner. He pulled the screen out of my front window, left in on the ground, crawled through th window and stole $250 and a Cannon camera off my tv top. I get home, call the police, make a report, and talk to the gay black man about what his son did. The guy said let the police do what they have to do.

Now yesterday I go to work, rent is due, and I have in an envelope $1,100 which is my rent money, and I had $150 just thrown in there because I dont take cash or credit cards to work. The bitch stole all the money, all the credit cards, and my other camera.

The same police come back, this mind you the 3rd time in less than a month. They can only do fingerprints they say on the crime scene. Both times a screen was removed from the window. BUT my landlord moved the screen from the scene both times so they said they cant print it once it is moved. The police think I am bullshitting, and wont come back. Yet I am out of 3 bikes, 2 cameras and over $1500 in cash. Both robberies, he was seen at the scene. But not in the building, WHAT CAN I DO???

bat1
05-30-2009, 08:08 PM
The neighbors are not having problems. The bastard has only robbed me, and why? Because even after calling the police, he got away with it all 3 times, he knows the father wont do shit, and now he see's the police wont do shit.


I feel since your a TS, he may think your easy to take advantage of
weak type....and your won't do nothing....and the Police won't care.

Being a TS must be much harder then being Gay...just to live life

life in unfair in many ways.....Sorry about your loss...:(





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TsVanessa69
05-30-2009, 08:10 PM
Sucks to get robbed, but why did you leave more than $1000 in cash and credit cards in your place, especially after $250 were stolen during the previous break in? That's almost like leaving the car keys dangling from the ignition.

Renter's insurance is a good idea. Consider investing in a surveillance/security system. Shut all windows when you're not at home. Do not leave large amounts of cash laying around at home. Pay your rent by check.


I know some people are going to interpet what I say in so many ways, but here is the issue.

I moved to an upper middle class white neighborhood in 2003. I LOVE my apartment, its a 2 flat, my landlord lives upstairs, and he is kool with what I do because he "dates" ts. And in the back there are 2 smaller apartments. I travel to NYC alot, and in all these years, I have never had a problem, my neighbors are all kool respectable people. NEVER had an issue.

So last summer a gay black man moved into the back apartment with a 17 year old foster child. when they first moved in, my Shwinn bycycle was stolen. We, the landlord and I were puzzled and said maybe somebody left the door open and a stranger came in and took it. Mind you our basement is always loked and only those in the building have acess to the basement.

SO I bought a second bike for myself, and at the same time my bf got a dirtbike. Fast forward to January. My landlord comes to me and says check my private storage area because his sons $600 mountain bike was stolen. I go and BOTH bikes are gone and a printer. We call the police, nothing happens. 2 weeks agao the foster kid is in front of the building, and his friend is riding MY bike down the street.

So I go to the currancy exchange on the corner. He pulled the screen out of my front window, left in on the ground, crawled through th window and stole $250 and a Cannon camera off my tv top. I get home, call the police, make a report, and talk to the gay black man about what his son did. The guy said let the police do what they have to do.

Now yesterday I go to work, rent is due, and I have in an envelope $1,100 which is my rent money, and I had $150 just thrown in there because I dont take cash or credit cards to work. The bitch stole all the money, all the credit cards, and my other camera.

The same police come back, this mind you the 3rd time in less than a month. They can only do fingerprints they say on the crime scene. Both times a screen was removed from the window. BUT my landlord moved the screen from the scene both times so they said they cant print it once it is moved. The police think I am bullshitting, and wont come back. Yet I am out of 3 bikes, 2 cameras and over $1500 in cash. Both robberies, he was seen at the scene. But not in the building, WHAT CAN I DO???
MY RENT WAS DUE AND I HAVE TO PAY IN CASH.
I DIDNT THINK WALKING DOWN THE STREET WITH $1100 WAS A SMART IDEA SINCE I HAD TO GIVE IT TO THE LANDLORD WHEN I GOT OFF WORK ANYWAY.

TsVanessa69
05-30-2009, 08:12 PM
The neighbors are not having problems. The bastard has only robbed me, and why? Because even after calling the police, he got away with it all 3 times, he knows the father wont do shit, and now he see's the police wont do shit.


I feel since your a TS, he may think your easy to take advantage of
weak type....and your won't do nothing....and the Police won't care.

Being a TS must be much harder then being Gay...just to live life

life in unfair in many ways.....


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It just makes me mad. Especially with the father being gay and asking me how he can become more ibvolved in trans related issues.
I wanna tell him to whip that bitches ass and pay back what he stole. MY parents would have never let it get past the first bike.

SarahG
05-30-2009, 08:15 PM
I think the mentions of race and sexuality are very surprising given who you are. But I'm sure your comments are more revealing than many will acknowledge.

Leaving that aside, you leave money in an envelope in your house (AFTER YOU'VE HAD A BREAK IN AND DID NOT DO ANYTHING TO SECURE THE LOCATION?!?!?!). Leaving aside the question of whether there was $250 or $150 with your rent money, I am still lost as to your landlord's lack of concern about the situation. Also, why would you "go to the currancy exchange on the corner" as opposed to turning around and going inside to call the police or doing so on your cell phone (which you carry everywhere)? I am not saying you needed to confront the bike rider or your young neighbor, but your actions are baffling.

I will make a suggestion, as opposed to only making observations:

1. SECURE YOUR WINDOWS

2. File a small claims case against the foster father. Have your witnesses, the police reports, damage reports and subpeonas ready for the police officers. WHY DO THIS? Well if the foster father is only interested in the monthly check - your suit will surely be for more than that amount. And that will cost him not to mention that child services will be very interested the the juvenile's activities. If he is interested in the child, then he will realize the damage that the child is doing to him and himself and that will wake him up.

Good Luck on handling the child of your black gay neighbor.
The kid on my bike was not alone so there was a total of 3 guys, but since a police report was already made on the bikes, I had to call the DETECTIVE, not the POLICE. The detectives number was on the police report, and calling 911 in chicago doesnt get an immidiate response anyway even if i was shot, they take there time to get there. So yes I went to the Currency Exchange to pay bills and was going to inform the detective when I got home that I saw who was on the bike.
The police said it was the landlords responsibility to secure the place after the first call.
The money stolen the second time was my RENT money, It is the end of the month and rent is due, so why wouldnt I have my rent money in MY apartment. Needless to say I was not going to pay the rent after it was stolen and the landlord agreed, that its not fair that somebody in the building is robbing me. But I'm wondering, what role does my landlord play in this, as he knew and filed a repeort against the SAME kid.

Just curious, are you on the first floor or basement floor by chance? Some apartment complexes around here don't like to rent single or basement floor apartments to women because they're statistically more likely to be the setting of rapes, murders, and thefts (since they're easier to get to), so they'll (whenever possible) try to put women on the 2nd floor or higher if they live by themselves.

Paying the rent in cash is not a good idea, your landlord sounds like a nice enough guy, so this might not apply, but the downside to cash is you can't prove you paid your rent with cash... there's no real paper trail. Whereas with checks, there's so much documentation that you paid that there's no way the landlord can claim he didn't get paid. The less than ethical land lords around here have been known to pocket cash and then say "oh, I never got your rent money : wink wink, cough cough: " to milk you for more money since they know you can't prove you paid when you pay cash.

The land lord should, should try to secure your apartment better (more locks, bars on the windows, whatever it takes). The land lord has a responsibility to keep your apartment safe & functional, if someone can break in without busting open the windows or doors, the place needs renovations to fix that- whether that means better locks, or bars.

But, I feel your pain if nothing gets done. I am lucky here if the landlord fixes the plumbing when a pipe bursts. What you can do is see if the landlord would mind you making renovations yourself to secure your apartment better, and see if he'll let you deduct the cost from your rent. If so then just do it yourself or pay someone else to do it (know any contractors to call in a favor with?).

2009AD
05-30-2009, 08:17 PM
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deee757
05-30-2009, 08:37 PM
I am very sorry for what has happenned to you but I am having a very hard time not being offended by the comments like "white neighborhood" and "gay black man" as aren't we all just people?

I just kind of feel like I would expect a bit more from someone of ethnic background. My x-gf was black as well as ts and know talk like that would have really offended her.

It sounds as though the person commiting these crimes are getting rather brazen and from what you are saying it looks as though you might be able to lure them in and get video or photo proof of them taking your things. I would also consider renters insurance as mine is $9 a month and I get a discount on my auto insuranc for having it which pays for it in the end.

I have had things stolen from me and it is the worst feeling in the world and I am so sorry you have to go through this.
\Well how do you think I feel, being a transwoman of color, and having a person of color with a father who is gay robbing me for fun? I moved where I did to avoid all that.

God created irony to humble us all. But i understand its your home, and you shouldnt have to make exceptions, but you are having a problem, and until it is resloved I woud suggest utilizing small safe's, extra locks on doors and windows, and like i said before, pets are very good even if they only make noise

NYTSJulie
05-30-2009, 08:46 PM
all you can do is take it up with him yourself. the police wont do shit about it. i would corner the mother fucker and get what you can back, have a friend with you if you have to. the money is gone but the other things he or his friends probably still have.

if you get him together he wont fuck with you again. see......we teach people how to teach us and we also teach people what our limits are, and so far he has the impression that he can get away with it.

personally I would be waiting in the hallway with a tire iron for the mother fucker, you need to show him you are not the one to be messed with.

NYTSJulie
05-30-2009, 08:49 PM
or have a trick who lives for you wear him the fuck out

2009AD
05-30-2009, 08:55 PM
personally I would be waiting in the hallway with a tire iron for the mother fucker, you need to show him you are not the one to be messed with.


or have a trick who lives for you wear him the fuck out

Yea, real smart, escalate the situation with physical violence. :roll:

deee757
05-30-2009, 09:11 PM
all you can do is take it up with him yourself. the police wont do shit about it. i would corner the mother fucker and get what you can back, have a friend with you if you have to. the money is gone but the other things he or his friends probably still have.

if you get him together he wont fuck with you again. see......we teach people how to teach us and we also teach people what our limits are, and so far he has the impression that he can get away with it.

personally I would be waiting in the hallway with a tire iron for the mother fucker, you need to show him you are not the one to be messed with.

Terrible Advice, dont know about NY or IL, but in VA, you will be on the front cover of the newspaper for felony child assault. The writer reporting the news will win a Pulitzer.

jjhill
05-30-2009, 09:40 PM
Wasn't it Dr. King who wished that his kids would be judged not on the color of their skin but the the content of their character?

I live in an extremely upscale neighborhood in Santa Monica and have been stolen from just the same as you. Does it make my stereotyping of people that I don't have any proof of correct?

I just feel comments such as yours does us no good as a country, especially from someone of your race and sexual orientation is all.

Yea I don't understand why the guy race and sexuality was mentioned. Or the living in an upscale white neighborhood. I am sorry for your lost though. Since you have proof, take them to Judge Mathis or court

LBCDO
05-30-2009, 09:55 PM
These is part of me that says go to Humboldt park and recruit a couple of dudes to wear him the fuck out too... but...

Honestly, the best thing to do is buy one of those cheap pinhole cameras for a couple of hundred bucks. I know EXACTLY how CPD is, and there is a part of me that doubts that even him being on tape would yield many results.

What a lot of people in this thread don't realize is, if your house is broken into, yea, you're more cautious, but you never really know the next time you are going to be hit. Its your home. Its like saying "Why would you not lock your door when you shower because you know someone has been getting in and out of your house" Its your home. You live there. You really don't think to live like you have a theiving roommate when its just you. be realistic...

Camera seems like the best option, or talking to the landlord and convincing him that to get those tenants out. Let someone else get robbed. If he's not there as much, then he's not likely to go across town to rob you as often. Hope everything works out

jjhill
05-30-2009, 10:00 PM
Perfect example of CPD

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dNyEodfUuk&feature=related

thickjimmy
05-30-2009, 10:03 PM
Hate to say it but you go na have to get gangsta with his ass. Ypu did all you could legaly but that only gets you so far catch his ass alone and let him know whats up. You dont even have to use violence just let him know you not to be fucked with and if he tries you again he wont live to do it again.


The same situation happened to this cab driver i knew he had just moved to a house in a bad part of town one day he noticed his hubcaps was missi g and there were always these gangsta looki g kids hanging out on the street. The next day he cornered one of them and told him he may not be the one who stole his hubcaps but he sure as hell knows who did and if he didnt have his shit back first thing in the morning he was going to pay. Well he said next morn he woke up his hubcaps were on his porch. You got to get hood with these lil kids today otherwise they go na take you for pussy and fuck over you.

deee757
05-30-2009, 10:10 PM
Hate to say it but you go na have to get gangsta with his ass. Ypu did all you could legaly but that only gets you so far catch his ass alone and let him know whats up. You dont even have to use violence just let him know you not to be fucked with and if he tries you again he wont live to do it again.


The same situation happened to this cab driver i knew he had just moved to a house in a bad part of town one day he noticed his hubcaps was missi g and there were always these gangsta looki g kids hanging out on the street. The next day he cornered one of them and told him he may not be the one who stole his hubcaps but he sure as hell knows who did and if he didnt have his shit back first thing in the morning he was going to pay. Well he said next morn he woke up his hubcaps were on his porch. You got to get hood with these lil kids today otherwise they go na take you for pussy and fuck over you.

Lol, maybe I need to move out of my state. Apparently in other states they will not have you in a chain gang for threatening children.

RubyTS
05-30-2009, 11:55 PM
beat that bitch w a bat... PSHEW!!!

Alyssa87
05-31-2009, 12:09 AM
have u ever read 'The Champagne Slipper'?

Do what Lita did when Alfonzo was breaking in.lol.

if u havent read it, you should :p

RubyTS
05-31-2009, 12:10 AM
geek lol

LTR_Seeker
05-31-2009, 12:11 AM
yeah when all reasoning fails get the brass knucks out i say

Alyssa87
05-31-2009, 12:14 AM
geek lol

well golly http://l.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/emoticons7/26.gif

i was just trying to help. *snort*

LTR_Seeker
05-31-2009, 12:15 AM
alyssa hot geeky chick lol

jjhill
05-31-2009, 12:19 AM
Hate to say it but you go na have to get gangsta with his ass. Ypu did all you could legaly but that only gets you so far catch his ass alone and let him know whats up. You dont even have to use violence just let him know you not to be fucked with and if he tries you again he wont live to do it again.


The same situation happened to this cab driver i knew he had just moved to a house in a bad part of town one day he noticed his hubcaps was missi g and there were always these gangsta looki g kids hanging out on the street. The next day he cornered one of them and told him he may not be the one who stole his hubcaps but he sure as hell knows who did and if he didnt have his shit back first thing in the morning he was going to pay. Well he said next morn he woke up his hubcaps were on his porch. You got to get hood with these lil kids today otherwise they go na take you for pussy and fuck over you.

lol the problem is. You tell a kid that where I'm from and he'll laugh at you. And the next day, him and a bunch of his buddies would whoop that ass. I mean when I was younger I ran with a crew. We didn't do nothing like that, but.....Options should be weighed heavily. I drove up to a Mcdonalds once back home and like 12 ten year olds that I knew was about to jump some grown man at mcdondalds. I put a stop to it tho cuz that grown man didn't stand a chance. And let the boy be in a gang, then you really asking for it. Cuz not only can he run back to his family. He could run back to his "other family" I'm not promoting gang violence or nothing just saying think before you act

RubyTS
05-31-2009, 12:25 AM
this day and age kids are so disrespectful because they r not being sdisciplined like we were back in the day! Plus they don't have positive influences really to look up to with all the sex and violence on tv they're growing up sooo quick. I say get a nephew if u have one to whoop this kids ass. When i was a kid my dad MADE me fight.

SarahG
05-31-2009, 12:33 AM
this day and age kids are so disrespectful because they r not being sdisciplined like we were back in the day! Plus they don't have positive influences really to look up to with all the sex and violence on tv they're growing up sooo quick. I say get a nephew if u have one to whoop this kids ass. When i was a kid my dad MADE me fight.

That's the big part, imho. On the one side of my family, you'd be excommunicated from the family for spanking or raising a hand to a kid, but it's not a problem when people are taught how to act.

Other side however? Eee... that side was quick to use violence in raising kids and with the amount of arrests, domestic violence, and drama over there its obvious it wasn't a very effective method.

The dad clearly doesn't give a shit, so of course the kid won't. Once a kid is running around breaking into neighboring apartments, nothing the parent will do, not even violence, will beat it out of him. At this point anything the dad does is gonna be a dollar short and a day late. Not to mention, the kid is surely an idiot... robbing neighbors is like pissing in your bed, he's not even a smart thug.

RubyTS
05-31-2009, 12:36 AM
i was a foster kid for 2.5 yrs, i was never a problem child. but i do remember doing thinggs to get attention

SarahG
05-31-2009, 12:38 AM
i was a foster kid for 2.5 yrs, i was never a problem child. but i do remember doing thinggs to get attention

Don't all kids do things for attention?

LTR_Seeker
05-31-2009, 12:39 AM
Like alot of kids do Ruby

RubyTS
05-31-2009, 12:39 AM
good point

LTR_Seeker
05-31-2009, 12:42 AM
but not alot either break in steal people crap either so there something wrong or he is klepto

jjhill
05-31-2009, 12:44 AM
Vanessa maybe your neighborhood is changing for the worst. I dont know what part of town you stay at? But remember when they tore down all the projects and pushed those people all over the place? You was hearing of criminal activities in places you would never imagine. (Oak Park, Forest Park, Elmhurst, ect) I just hope no violence is involved with solving this. Cuz there's no longer one on one fights these days. And what was it two or three Saturdays ago when Chicago had 11 murders in one day? You know how it is when it get hot out there so, hopefully cooler head prevails and the problem is solved.

giovanni_hotel
05-31-2009, 12:46 AM
Vanessa, are there serial numbers on your bikes?

It would be real easy to find out if the bike his friend was riding was the one you had stolen.

It should be in the purchase info that came with the bike, or contact the store where you bought the bike.

All I can think is, set a trap for that punk. If the police and the kid's foster parent are unwilling to do shit to get the situation rectified, ( where I live, if the landlord suspected another tenant was robbing from another renter, that tenant would be booted to the street. IMO your landlord needs to grow some!!)

If nothing comes from this at all, you may have to go the pysch ops route and have a friend put the fear of God into that busta.

Have someone talk to him on the real, let him know that you know he stole your shit, and tell him real serious what his future holds if it happens again.

Also, I would contact his foster counselor, if possible, and drop a dime on him. At least to make his life a little more miserable.

Shit, I'd print flyers and post them all over the apartment warning residents that the kid is a THIEF.

Squeeze a punk like that and eventually they'll pop.

But really, why doesn't your landlord break the rental contract and give em the boot?

jjhill
05-31-2009, 12:55 AM
Also the foster father probably could care less if his son is 17. He's probably thinking that's between you and him. When I was 17, if someone told my father that I did something he'd probably laugh and say take that up with him. Keep us posted tho.

RubyTS
05-31-2009, 01:05 AM
Also the foster father probably could care less if his son is 17. He's probably thinking that's between you and him. When I was 17, if someone told my father that I did something he'd probably laugh and say take that up with him. Keep us posted tho.

i agree thats pretty much the age where kids feel like they're grown. ahhh to be 17 again that was a gr8 year!

wombat33
05-31-2009, 01:39 AM
1) DEFINITELY SET UP CAMERAS!!!!!!!!!!

2) Have a friend break his legs

3) Tell the cops they are assholes for me please.

4) Get locks on everything. At the landlord's expense.

5) Report the gay dude for molesting the kid.

TsVanessa69
05-31-2009, 01:43 AM
I think the mentions of race and sexuality are very surprising given who you are. But I'm sure your comments are more revealing than many will acknowledge.

Leaving that aside, you leave money in an envelope in your house (AFTER YOU'VE HAD A BREAK IN AND DID NOT DO ANYTHING TO SECURE THE LOCATION?!?!?!). Leaving aside the question of whether there was $250 or $150 with your rent money, I am still lost as to your landlord's lack of concern about the situation. Also, why would you "go to the currancy exchange on the corner" as opposed to turning around and going inside to call the police or doing so on your cell phone (which you carry everywhere)? I am not saying you needed to confront the bike rider or your young neighbor, but your actions are baffling.

I will make a suggestion, as opposed to only making observations:

1. SECURE YOUR WINDOWS

2. File a small claims case against the foster father. Have your witnesses, the police reports, damage reports and subpeonas ready for the police officers. WHY DO THIS? Well if the foster father is only interested in the monthly check - your suit will surely be for more than that amount. And that will cost him not to mention that child services will be very interested the the juvenile's activities. If he is interested in the child, then he will realize the damage that the child is doing to him and himself and that will wake him up.

Good Luck on handling the child of your black gay neighbor.
The kid on my bike was not alone so there was a total of 3 guys, but since a police report was already made on the bikes, I had to call the DETECTIVE, not the POLICE. The detectives number was on the police report, and calling 911 in chicago doesnt get an immidiate response anyway even if i was shot, they take there time to get there. So yes I went to the Currency Exchange to pay bills and was going to inform the detective when I got home that I saw who was on the bike.
The police said it was the landlords responsibility to secure the place after the first call.
The money stolen the second time was my RENT money, It is the end of the month and rent is due, so why wouldnt I have my rent money in MY apartment. Needless to say I was not going to pay the rent after it was stolen and the landlord agreed, that its not fair that somebody in the building is robbing me. But I'm wondering, what role does my landlord play in this, as he knew and filed a repeort against the SAME kid.

Just curious, are you on the first floor or basement floor by chance? Some apartment complexes around here don't like to rent single or basement floor apartments to women because they're statistically more likely to be the setting of rapes, murders, and thefts (since they're easier to get to), so they'll (whenever possible) try to put women on the 2nd floor or higher if they live by themselves.

Paying the rent in cash is not a good idea, your landlord sounds like a nice enough guy, so this might not apply, but the downside to cash is you can't prove you paid your rent with cash... there's no real paper trail. Whereas with checks, there's so much documentation that you paid that there's no way the landlord can claim he didn't get paid. The less than ethical land lords around here have been known to pocket cash and then say "oh, I never got your rent money : wink wink, cough cough: " to milk you for more money since they know you can't prove you paid when you pay cash.

The land lord should, should try to secure your apartment better (more locks, bars on the windows, whatever it takes). The land lord has a responsibility to keep your apartment safe & functional, if someone can break in without busting open the windows or doors, the place needs renovations to fix that- whether that means better locks, or bars.

But, I feel your pain if nothing gets done. I am lucky here if the landlord fixes the plumbing when a pipe bursts. What you can do is see if the landlord would mind you making renovations yourself to secure your apartment better, and see if he'll let you deduct the cost from your rent. If so then just do it yourself or pay someone else to do it (know any contractors to call in a favor with?).
I pay my rent cash and get a receipt every month.
I have lived in that apartment since 2003, have had wayyy more cash around my place before and NEVER had a problem untile these people moved in. Yes I feel the landlord should step up and do more and stop being a wimp. Letting my rent ride for this month is ok, but doesnt replace the 2 cameras, nor the 3 bikes nor the diamond ring that I have discovered was missing. I think he should have burglar bars installed on the windows since we know he is scared to evict thiese types of people. He said we should wait until their lease runs out.

TsVanessa69
05-31-2009, 01:46 AM
Vanessa, are there serial numbers on your bikes?

It would be real easy to find out if the bike his friend was riding was the one you had stolen.

It should be in the purchase info that came with the bike, or contact the store where you bought the bike.

All I can think is, set a trap for that punk. If the police and the kid's foster parent are unwilling to do shit to get the situation rectified, ( where I live, if the landlord suspected another tenant was robbing from another renter, that tenant would be booted to the street. IMO your landlord needs to grow some!!)

If nothing comes from this at all, you may have to go the pysch ops route and have a friend put the fear of God into that busta.

Have someone talk to him on the real, let him know that you know he stole your shit, and tell him real serious what his future holds if it happens again.

Also, I would contact his foster counselor, if possible, and drop a dime on him. At least to make his life a little more miserable.

Shit, I'd print flyers and post them all over the apartment warning residents that the kid is a THIEF.

Squeeze a punk like that and eventually they'll pop.

But really, why doesn't your landlord break the rental contract and give em the boot?
I still have the receipts from all 3 bikes, thet werent even a year old. The bike the kid was riding was one that cannot be missed, its lime green and black. And I paid with my credit card, so its easy to prove, but now they know I saw them with the bike, they wont bring it around anymore.

TsVanessa69
05-31-2009, 01:49 AM
i was a foster kid for 2.5 yrs, i was never a problem child. but i do remember doing thinggs to get attention
Well this bitch got a lifetime of attention in one sitting!
He stole 3 bikes from me, a printer, a $600 mountain bike from the land lord, A Cannon camera, a Kodak camera, $250, $1200, and gag, a $1300 diamond ring that I treated myself to for Xmas, I just got an empty ring box now. Now I know why people are found shot up in garbage cans.

TsVanessa69
05-31-2009, 01:52 AM
beat that bitch w a bat... PSHEW!!!
My girlfriend told me she would hold him down and I should cut him in the ankles and see if his bitchass can run!

TsVanessa69
05-31-2009, 01:58 AM
personally I would be waiting in the hallway with a tire iron for the mother fucker, you need to show him you are not the one to be messed with.


or have a trick who lives for you wear him the fuck out

Yea, real smart, escalate the situation with physical violence. :roll:
Well, sometimes thats the only way to go.
I did it the right way, i did it the legal way, I envolved the land lord and the father and the police. Now if it had been the other way around, and I was the theif, they would have locked me up 5 seconds after they were called.
Shit I was jailed for riding a bike on the sidewalk, yet this bitch has robbed me 3 times and gotten away with it.
Definatly time to stop being miss nice and do what the fuck has to be done to handle this. I'm 37 years old, and NEVER had this bullshot happen to me. Now some 17 year old bastard with a faggot for a father is gonna pull it on my time, NO baby trust and believe, I'll handle it. A blowjob in the hood goes a long way these days! The economy is bad on political level, but in the streets, good pussy get you thing you want or need to have done!

TsVanessa69
05-31-2009, 02:01 AM
I am very sorry for what has happenned to you but I am having a very hard time not being offended by the comments like "white neighborhood" and "gay black man" as aren't we all just people?

I just kind of feel like I would expect a bit more from someone of ethnic background. My x-gf was black as well as ts and know talk like that would have really offended her.

It sounds as though the person commiting these crimes are getting rather brazen and from what you are saying it looks as though you might be able to lure them in and get video or photo proof of them taking your things. I would also consider renters insurance as mine is $9 a month and I get a discount on my auto insuranc for having it which pays for it in the end.

I have had things stolen from me and it is the worst feeling in the world and I am so sorry you have to go through this.
\Well how do you think I feel, being a transwoman of color, and having a person of color with a father who is gay robbing me for fun? I moved where I did to avoid all that.

God created irony to humble us all. But i understand its your home, and you shouldnt have to make exceptions, but you are having a problem, and until it is resloved I woud suggest utilizing small safe's, extra locks on doors and windows, and like i said before, pets are very good even if they only make noise
My 2 babies are still terrified of what they saw, my girl cat has diahrrea

TheGuard
05-31-2009, 02:15 AM
Listen, obviously this is a frustrating situation but don't retaliate on that level. Truth told, it will blacken your soul and he'll have the ultimate one over on you. I know it's easy for an observer to preach Zen and all that, but if you're patient, this kid will find himself run afoul of the law sooner rather than later. In the meantime, take extra precautions to protect your valuables, invest in some insurance, a nanny cam and a safe and keep your receipts for all purchases. I'd hate to see this come back on you negatively, as these situations often do, patience optimism and a bit of pragmatic thinking will prevail in the end.

deee757
05-31-2009, 02:18 AM
Vanessa maybe your neighborhood is changing for the worst. I dont know what part of town you stay at? But remember when they tore down all the projects and pushed those people all over the place? You was hearing of criminal activities in places you would never imagine. (Oak Park, Forest Park, Elmhurst, ect) I just hope no violence is involved with solving this. Cuz there's no longer one on one fights these days. And what was it two or three Saturdays ago when Chicago had 11 murders in one day? You know how it is when it get hot out there so, hopefully cooler head prevails and the problem is solved.

Yea, you have to admit it, first you moved in, black gay male moves in, foster kids, crime rate increases, This is a real live hood we talking about here. The middle class folks will all be moved out by summer of 2010

TsVanessa69
05-31-2009, 02:22 AM
Listen, obviously this is a frustrating situation but don't retaliate on that level. Truth told, it will blacken your soul and he'll have the ultimate one over on you. I know it's easy for an observer to preach Zen and all that, but if you're patient, this kid will find himself run afoul of the law sooner rather than later. In the meantime, take extra precautions to protect your valuables, invest in some insurance, a nanny cam and a safe and keep your receipts for all purchases. I'd hate to see this come back on you negatively, as these situations often do, patience optimism and a bit of pragmatic thinking will prevail in the end.
So who is gonna give me back the $1500, 2 cameras, 3 bikes and my daimond ring????
I say I get this bitch fucked up real good, get my moneysworth. Have me suckin dicks, getting my dick sucked, going to work every daymn day to have a punk come in and clean me out, hell no!
I did it the right way and it didnt work, now I'll do it the other way.

jjhill
05-31-2009, 02:23 AM
Vanessa maybe your neighborhood is changing for the worst. I dont know what part of town you stay at? But remember when they tore down all the projects and pushed those people all over the place? You was hearing of criminal activities in places you would never imagine. (Oak Park, Forest Park, Elmhurst, ect) I just hope no violence is involved with solving this. Cuz there's no longer one on one fights these days. And what was it two or three Saturdays ago when Chicago had 11 murders in one day? You know how it is when it get hot out there so, hopefully cooler head prevails and the problem is solved.

Yea, you have to admit it, first you moved in, black gay male moves in, foster kids, crime rate increases, This is a real live hood we talking about here. The middle class folks will all be moved out by summer of 2010

lmfao yup! I've seen in happen to many times. When my family had moved, it was only three black families in the area. Now it's only two white families in the area.

On a side note, if violence is brought into this. I can see this getting real ugly

deee757
05-31-2009, 02:24 AM
Listen, obviously this is a frustrating situation but don't retaliate on that level. Truth told, it will blacken your soul and he'll have the ultimate one over on you. I know it's easy for an observer to preach Zen and all that, but if you're patient, this kid will find himself run afoul of the law sooner rather than later. In the meantime, take extra precautions to protect your valuables, invest in some insurance, a nanny cam and a safe and keep your receipts for all purchases. I'd hate to see this come back on you negatively, as these situations often do, patience optimism and a bit of pragmatic thinking will prevail in the end.
So who is gonna give me back the $1500, 2 cameras, 3 bikes and my daimond ring????
I say I get this bitch fucked up real good, get my moneysworth. Have me suckin dicks, getting my dick sucked, going to work every daymn day to have a punk come in and clean me out, hell no!
I did it the right way and it didnt work, now I'll do it the other way.

Is still a child though you have to remember that

TsVanessa69
05-31-2009, 02:34 AM
Vanessa maybe your neighborhood is changing for the worst. I dont know what part of town you stay at? But remember when they tore down all the projects and pushed those people all over the place? You was hearing of criminal activities in places you would never imagine. (Oak Park, Forest Park, Elmhurst, ect) I just hope no violence is involved with solving this. Cuz there's no longer one on one fights these days. And what was it two or three Saturdays ago when Chicago had 11 murders in one day? You know how it is when it get hot out there so, hopefully cooler head prevails and the problem is solved.

Yea, you have to admit it, first you moved in, black gay male moves in, foster kids, crime rate increases, This is a real live hood we talking about here. The middle class folks will all be moved out by summer of 2010
I been living here since 2003 and never had an issue of any kind.
I carry myself like a woman in public. The only problem is when they moved in and as soon as I push to get them out our neighborhood wiil go back to the way it was. I moved around white people for a reason. I like walking down a quiet street with picket fences, and people watering the grass and planting flowers in the yard. I like that. I like our block club, clean streets, and going to church on Sunday. I like the fact that people dont stare at me and my friends, yell out "thats a man", or beg for change or sell drugs up and down my street. I buy candy and cookies to help my neighbors kids school events, I chat with the woman on my block about the news and weather. No my neighborhood is not changing, nor have I brought any drama or faggotry to my home. Mimi can tell you, I have even ignored her a couple of times she wants to fag out too loud.
Which is more the reason this bullshit burns me up. Chatting with my neighbors, they are definatly going to keep an eye on them. I am going to use the legal council at my job, to pinpoint exactly what my landlord can do to get them out as soon as possible. The police already told him he has enough to get them evicted before their lease is up. I work too daymn hard and been throught too much bullshit in my life to let these people fuck with my peace and tranquility. Yes I am Puerto Rican and I wouldnt even live in a Puerto Rican neighborhood. I gonna live where my safety is not compromised, no matter how much rent I have to pay.

jjhill
05-31-2009, 02:38 AM
Vanessa maybe your neighborhood is changing for the worst. I dont know what part of town you stay at? But remember when they tore down all the projects and pushed those people all over the place? You was hearing of criminal activities in places you would never imagine. (Oak Park, Forest Park, Elmhurst, ect) I just hope no violence is involved with solving this. Cuz there's no longer one on one fights these days. And what was it two or three Saturdays ago when Chicago had 11 murders in one day? You know how it is when it get hot out there so, hopefully cooler head prevails and the problem is solved.

Yea, you have to admit it, first you moved in, black gay male moves in, foster kids, crime rate increases, This is a real live hood we talking about here. The middle class folks will all be moved out by summer of 2010
I been living here since 2003 and never had an issue of any kind.
I carry myself like a woman in public. The only problem is when they moved in and as soon as I push to get them out our neighborhood wiil go back to the way it was. I moved around white people for a reason. I like walking down a quiet street with picket fences, and people watering the grass and planting flowers in the yard. I like that. I like our block club, clean streets, and going to church on Sunday. I like the fact that people dont stare at me and my friends, yell out "thats a man", or beg for change or sell drugs up and down my street. I buy candy and cookies to help my neighbors kids school events, I chat with the woman on my block about the news and weather. No my neighborhood is not changing, nor have I brought any drama or faggorty to my home. Mimi can tell you, I have even ignored her a couple of times she wants to fag out too loud.
Which is more the reason this bullshit burns me up. Chatting with my neighbors, they are definatly going to keep an eye on them. I am going to use the legal council at my job, to pinpoint exactly what my landlord can do to get them out ans soon as possible. I work to daymn hard and been throught too much bullshit in my life to let these people fuck with my peace and tranquility. Yes I am Puerto Rican and I wouldnt even live in a Puerto Rican neighborhood. I gonna live where my safty is not comprpmised, no matter how much rent I have to pay.


I don't think it's the nationality of the people that determines this "utopia" you just described. I believe it's the social class.

TsVanessa69
05-31-2009, 02:40 AM
Vanessa maybe your neighborhood is changing for the worst. I dont know what part of town you stay at? But remember when they tore down all the projects and pushed those people all over the place? You was hearing of criminal activities in places you would never imagine. (Oak Park, Forest Park, Elmhurst, ect) I just hope no violence is involved with solving this. Cuz there's no longer one on one fights these days. And what was it two or three Saturdays ago when Chicago had 11 murders in one day? You know how it is when it get hot out there so, hopefully cooler head prevails and the problem is solved.

Yea, you have to admit it, first you moved in, black gay male moves in, foster kids, crime rate increases, This is a real live hood we talking about here. The middle class folks will all be moved out by summer of 2010

lmfao yup! I've seen in happen to many times. When my family had moved, it was only three black families in the area. Now it's only two white families in the area.

On a side note, if violence is brought into this. I can see this getting real ugly
My neighborhood is composed of middle classed, middle aged white people. Me moving in has not done shit to this block, all these years, then those people come in and start robbing people. Once they are gone, we gonna go back to the way we were, nice and quiet without wondering whats gonna get stolen next.

jjhill
05-31-2009, 02:43 AM
Vanessa maybe your neighborhood is changing for the worst. I dont know what part of town you stay at? But remember when they tore down all the projects and pushed those people all over the place? You was hearing of criminal activities in places you would never imagine. (Oak Park, Forest Park, Elmhurst, ect) I just hope no violence is involved with solving this. Cuz there's no longer one on one fights these days. And what was it two or three Saturdays ago when Chicago had 11 murders in one day? You know how it is when it get hot out there so, hopefully cooler head prevails and the problem is solved.

Yea, you have to admit it, first you moved in, black gay male moves in, foster kids, crime rate increases, This is a real live hood we talking about here. The middle class folks will all be moved out by summer of 2010

lmfao yup! I've seen in happen to many times. When my family had moved, it was only three black families in the area. Now it's only two white families in the area.

On a side note, if violence is brought into this. I can see this getting real ugly
My neighborhood is composed of middle classed, middle aged white people. Me moving in has not done shit to this block, all these years, then those people come in and start robbing people. Once they are gone, we gonna go back to the way we were, nice and quiet without wondering whats gonna get stolen next.

Well I'm from a mixed upper middle class neighborhood also, where there wasn't problems like these. No matter what tho, the property value decreases when a minority moves in. Even if the individual is peaceful or not. Just a person sitting on their porch can detour potential movers.

TsVanessa69
05-31-2009, 02:45 AM
Vanessa maybe your neighborhood is changing for the worst. I dont know what part of town you stay at? But remember when they tore down all the projects and pushed those people all over the place? You was hearing of criminal activities in places you would never imagine. (Oak Park, Forest Park, Elmhurst, ect) I just hope no violence is involved with solving this. Cuz there's no longer one on one fights these days. And what was it two or three Saturdays ago when Chicago had 11 murders in one day? You know how it is when it get hot out there so, hopefully cooler head prevails and the problem is solved.

Yea, you have to admit it, first you moved in, black gay male moves in, foster kids, crime rate increases, This is a real live hood we talking about here. The middle class folks will all be moved out by summer of 2010
I been living here since 2003 and never had an issue of any kind.
I carry myself like a woman in public. The only problem is when they moved in and as soon as I push to get them out our neighborhood wiil go back to the way it was. I moved around white people for a reason. I like walking down a quiet street with picket fences, and people watering the grass and planting flowers in the yard. I like that. I like our block club, clean streets, and going to church on Sunday. I like the fact that people dont stare at me and my friends, yell out "thats a man", or beg for change or sell drugs up and down my street. I buy candy and cookies to help my neighbors kids school events, I chat with the woman on my block about the news and weather. No my neighborhood is not changing, nor have I brought any drama or faggorty to my home. Mimi can tell you, I have even ignored her a couple of times she wants to fag out too loud.
Which is more the reason this bullshit burns me up. Chatting with my neighbors, they are definatly going to keep an eye on them. I am going to use the legal council at my job, to pinpoint exactly what my landlord can do to get them out ans soon as possible. I work to daymn hard and been throught too much bullshit in my life to let these people fuck with my peace and tranquility. Yes I am Puerto Rican and I wouldnt even live in a Puerto Rican neighborhood. I gonna live where my safty is not comprpmised, no matter how much rent I have to pay.


I don't think it's the nationality of the people that determines this "utopia" you just described. I believe it's the social class.
The social class is quiet and respectful. I have been a part of our block club meetings, neighborhood yard sales, church bake sales and everything else. I as a transexual came to realize long ago some people just dont know how to act and to avoid the bullshit, work hard and pay to live where they aren't. Nobody has ever even mentioned or questioned my gender. I shop with the woman in my neighborhood, I love my whole block, all the pets know who I am, all the kids respect me and the grown ups do too. People of higher levels of education and good jobs keep the bullshit to themselves, and I'm happy with that.

TsVanessa69
05-31-2009, 02:48 AM
Vanessa maybe your neighborhood is changing for the worst. I dont know what part of town you stay at? But remember when they tore down all the projects and pushed those people all over the place? You was hearing of criminal activities in places you would never imagine. (Oak Park, Forest Park, Elmhurst, ect) I just hope no violence is involved with solving this. Cuz there's no longer one on one fights these days. And what was it two or three Saturdays ago when Chicago had 11 murders in one day? You know how it is when it get hot out there so, hopefully cooler head prevails and the problem is solved.

Yea, you have to admit it, first you moved in, black gay male moves in, foster kids, crime rate increases, This is a real live hood we talking about here. The middle class folks will all be moved out by summer of 2010

lmfao yup! I've seen in happen to many times. When my family had moved, it was only three black families in the area. Now it's only two white families in the area.

On a side note, if violence is brought into this. I can see this getting real ugly
My neighborhood is composed of middle classed, middle aged white people. Me moving in has not done shit to this block, all these years, then those people come in and start robbing people. Once they are gone, we gonna go back to the way we were, nice and quiet without wondering whats gonna get stolen next.

Well I'm from a mixed upper middle class neighborhood also, where there wasn't problems like these. No matter what tho, the property value decreases when a minority moves in. Even if the individual is peaceful or not. Just a person sitting on their porch can detour potential movers.
Well as soon as these people are out of here, I guess the property value on the block will rise. We have a nice Philipino family on the block, did they decrease the value too? I'm just saying this shit pisses me off on so many levels.

jjhill
05-31-2009, 02:54 AM
I for one don't know any neighborhood in Chicago that is exclusively one ethnicity. Also now the reverse is happening, the whites are moving into the black neighborhoods. Look at the whole area by U.I.C. I remember when that area was nothing like that. My grandparents stay in the area of westside I'll say from California and Roosevelt to Roosevelt and Racine. The apartment complex they own now is worth millions of dollars and that's in the hood. Now that whites are moving in the property value is going up. As for me I don't see race, I see social class. If a person can afford to live in a area, who is to say they can't move there based off race. I just really hope it's the black 17 yr old and he's not getting blamed because he is the token black guy.

TsVanessa69
05-31-2009, 02:59 AM
I for one don't know any neighborhood in Chicago that is exclusively one ethnicity. Also now the reverse is happening, the whites are moving into the black neighborhoods. Look at the whole area by U.I.C. I remember when that area was nothing like that. My grandparents stay in the area of westside I'll say from California and Roosevelt to Roosevelt and Racine. The apartment complex they own now is worth millions of dollars and that's in the hood. Now that whites are moving in the property value is going up. As for me I don't see race, I see social class. If a person can afford to live in a area, who is to say they can't move there based off race. I just really hope it's the black 17 yr old and he's not getting blamed because he is the token black guy.
No hes not being blamed because he is black, he;s being blamed because he stole my shit. And the land lords shit. But mighty funny nothing ever came up missing until he moved in. and funny in both robberies to my place, he was seen walking away, and his friend was riding MY bike. Even the foster father agreed, but said I could let the police get him and he wouldnt be mad. If he was white, I'd be mad, if he was Latino I'd be mad. Even the police agree with us thats its him, they just can't do anything until somebody see's him climbing in another window. I'm running out of shit for him to steal. I kinda wished he would have used a credit card to trap him that wya, but I had them deactivated. Maybe I should have let him set himself up. SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

fred41
05-31-2009, 03:00 AM
Listen, obviously this is a frustrating situation but don't retaliate on that level. Truth told, it will blacken your soul and he'll have the ultimate one over on you. I know it's easy for an observer to preach Zen and all that, but if you're patient, this kid will find himself run afoul of the law sooner rather than later. In the meantime, take extra precautions to protect your valuables, invest in some insurance, a nanny cam and a safe and keep your receipts for all purchases. I'd hate to see this come back on you negatively, as these situations often do, patience optimism and a bit of pragmatic thinking will prevail in the end.
So who is gonna give me back the $1500, 2 cameras, 3 bikes and my daimond ring????
I say I get this bitch fucked up real good, get my moneysworth. Have me suckin dicks, getting my dick sucked, going to work every daymn day to have a punk come in and clean me out, hell no!
I did it the right way and it didnt work, now I'll do it the other way.

Is still a child though you have to remember that

Yes, but perhaps a beating like that will make him think twice about a life of crime, avoid jail because of it ..and go on to find the cure for cancer (or the common cold).So in that case...she'd be doing the world a ...well, a world of good. That's a lot of money you lost Vanessa..you do what you think is right.


...but for God's sake... PLEASE burglar proof your windows at least a little bit. :)

jjhill
05-31-2009, 03:06 AM
I for one don't know any neighborhood in Chicago that is exclusively one ethnicity. Also now the reverse is happening, the whites are moving into the black neighborhoods. Look at the whole area by U.I.C. I remember when that area was nothing like that. My grandparents stay in the area of westside I'll say from California and Roosevelt to Roosevelt and Racine. The apartment complex they own now is worth millions of dollars and that's in the hood. Now that whites are moving in the property value is going up. As for me I don't see race, I see social class. If a person can afford to live in a area, who is to say they can't move there based off race. I just really hope it's the black 17 yr old and he's not getting blamed because he is the token black guy.
No hes not being blamed because he is black, he;s being blamed because he stole my shit. And the land lords shit. But mighty funny nothing ever came up missing until he moved in. and funny in both robberies to my place, he was seen walking away, and his friend was riding MY bike. If he was white, I'd be mad, if he was Latino I'd be mad.SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

But race is an issue here, because if it wasn't you wouldn't of mentioned "black male". It would of just been this guy broke into my house. I was just curious why the sexual orientation and skin color was mentioned in the first place

TsVanessa69
05-31-2009, 03:08 AM
Listen, obviously this is a frustrating situation but don't retaliate on that level. Truth told, it will blacken your soul and he'll have the ultimate one over on you. I know it's easy for an observer to preach Zen and all that, but if you're patient, this kid will find himself run afoul of the law sooner rather than later. In the meantime, take extra precautions to protect your valuables, invest in some insurance, a nanny cam and a safe and keep your receipts for all purchases. I'd hate to see this come back on you negatively, as these situations often do, patience optimism and a bit of pragmatic thinking will prevail in the end.
So who is gonna give me back the $1500, 2 cameras, 3 bikes and my daimond ring????
I say I get this bitch fucked up real good, get my moneysworth. Have me suckin dicks, getting my dick sucked, going to work every daymn day to have a punk come in and clean me out, hell no!
I did it the right way and it didnt work, now I'll do it the other way.

Is still a child though you have to remember that

Yes, but perhaps a beating like that will make him think twice about a life of crime, avoid jail because of it ..and go on to find the cure for cancer (or the common cold).So in that case...she'd be doing the world a ...well, a world of good. That's a lot of money you lost Vanessa..you do what you think is right.


...but for God's sake... PLEASE burglar proof your windows at least a little bit. :)
I am getting a letter in writing asking for buglar bars to be installed due to the fact I have been robbed twice.

jjhill
05-31-2009, 03:08 AM
Listen, obviously this is a frustrating situation but don't retaliate on that level. Truth told, it will blacken your soul and he'll have the ultimate one over on you. I know it's easy for an observer to preach Zen and all that, but if you're patient, this kid will find himself run afoul of the law sooner rather than later. In the meantime, take extra precautions to protect your valuables, invest in some insurance, a nanny cam and a safe and keep your receipts for all purchases. I'd hate to see this come back on you negatively, as these situations often do, patience optimism and a bit of pragmatic thinking will prevail in the end.
So who is gonna give me back the $1500, 2 cameras, 3 bikes and my daimond ring????
I say I get this bitch fucked up real good, get my moneysworth. Have me suckin dicks, getting my dick sucked, going to work every daymn day to have a punk come in and clean me out, hell no!
I did it the right way and it didnt work, now I'll do it the other way.

Is still a child though you have to remember that

Yes, but perhaps a beating like that will make him think twice about a life of crime, avoid jail because of it ..and go on to find the cure for cancer (or the common cold).So in that case...she'd be doing the world a ...well, a world of good. That's a lot of money you lost Vanessa..you do what you think is right.


...but for God's sake... PLEASE burglar proof your windows at least a little bit. :)

He's 17, not 7. I think it's a lil to late for a whooping. I'd set up a cam, get the proof, go to the cops, then they can't deny it.

TsVanessa69
05-31-2009, 03:09 AM
I for one don't know any neighborhood in Chicago that is exclusively one ethnicity. Also now the reverse is happening, the whites are moving into the black neighborhoods. Look at the whole area by U.I.C. I remember when that area was nothing like that. My grandparents stay in the area of westside I'll say from California and Roosevelt to Roosevelt and Racine. The apartment complex they own now is worth millions of dollars and that's in the hood. Now that whites are moving in the property value is going up. As for me I don't see race, I see social class. If a person can afford to live in a area, who is to say they can't move there based off race. I just really hope it's the black 17 yr old and he's not getting blamed because he is the token black guy.
No hes not being blamed because he is black, he;s being blamed because he stole my shit. And the land lords shit. But mighty funny nothing ever came up missing until he moved in. and funny in both robberies to my place, he was seen walking away, and his friend was riding MY bike. If he was white, I'd be mad, if he was Latino I'd be mad.SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

But race is an issue here, because if it wasn't you wouldn't of mentioned "black male". It would of just been this guy broke into my house. I was just curious why the sexual orientation and skin color was mentioned in the first place
Because it was a gag to me that it happened.

TsVanessa69
05-31-2009, 03:11 AM
Listen, obviously this is a frustrating situation but don't retaliate on that level. Truth told, it will blacken your soul and he'll have the ultimate one over on you. I know it's easy for an observer to preach Zen and all that, but if you're patient, this kid will find himself run afoul of the law sooner rather than later. In the meantime, take extra precautions to protect your valuables, invest in some insurance, a nanny cam and a safe and keep your receipts for all purchases. I'd hate to see this come back on you negatively, as these situations often do, patience optimism and a bit of pragmatic thinking will prevail in the end.
So who is gonna give me back the $1500, 2 cameras, 3 bikes and my daimond ring????
I say I get this bitch fucked up real good, get my moneysworth. Have me suckin dicks, getting my dick sucked, going to work every daymn day to have a punk come in and clean me out, hell no!
I did it the right way and it didnt work, now I'll do it the other way.

Is still a child though you have to remember that

Yes, but perhaps a beating like that will make him think twice about a life of crime, avoid jail because of it ..and go on to find the cure for cancer (or the common cold).So in that case...she'd be doing the world a ...well, a world of good. That's a lot of money you lost Vanessa..you do what you think is right.


...but for God's sake... PLEASE burglar proof your windows at least a little bit. :)

He's 17, not 7. I think it's a lil to late for a whooping. I'd set up a cam, get the proof, go to the cops, then they can't deny it.
So basically let him rob me one more time, should I just leave the keys in the door and go to work? I'll wait till all the replacement credit cards get here, add some paychecks from my job and my Niteflirt check, let him hit me on good last time! Fuck that!

jjhill
05-31-2009, 03:14 AM
I for one don't know any neighborhood in Chicago that is exclusively one ethnicity. Also now the reverse is happening, the whites are moving into the black neighborhoods. Look at the whole area by U.I.C. I remember when that area was nothing like that. My grandparents stay in the area of westside I'll say from California and Roosevelt to Roosevelt and Racine. The apartment complex they own now is worth millions of dollars and that's in the hood. Now that whites are moving in the property value is going up. As for me I don't see race, I see social class. If a person can afford to live in a area, who is to say they can't move there based off race. I just really hope it's the black 17 yr old and he's not getting blamed because he is the token black guy.
No hes not being blamed because he is black, he;s being blamed because he stole my shit. And the land lords shit. But mighty funny nothing ever came up missing until he moved in. and funny in both robberies to my place, he was seen walking away, and his friend was riding MY bike. If he was white, I'd be mad, if he was Latino I'd be mad.SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

But race is an issue here, because if it wasn't you wouldn't of mentioned "black male". It would of just been this guy broke into my house. I was just curious why the sexual orientation and skin color was mentioned in the first place
Because it was a gag to me that it happened.

Gag? (not trying to be a smart ass but I don't understand that but nvm) Also in such the neighborhood that you mentioned. I'm surprise the cops aren't on his ass or keeping a close eye on him because he's black. Come on this is Chicago we're talking about. I also don't think that this guy is purposely picking on you. Unless he finds you as an easy target.

jjhill
05-31-2009, 03:15 AM
Listen, obviously this is a frustrating situation but don't retaliate on that level. Truth told, it will blacken your soul and he'll have the ultimate one over on you. I know it's easy for an observer to preach Zen and all that, but if you're patient, this kid will find himself run afoul of the law sooner rather than later. In the meantime, take extra precautions to protect your valuables, invest in some insurance, a nanny cam and a safe and keep your receipts for all purchases. I'd hate to see this come back on you negatively, as these situations often do, patience optimism and a bit of pragmatic thinking will prevail in the end.
So who is gonna give me back the $1500, 2 cameras, 3 bikes and my daimond ring????
I say I get this bitch fucked up real good, get my moneysworth. Have me suckin dicks, getting my dick sucked, going to work every daymn day to have a punk come in and clean me out, hell no!
I did it the right way and it didnt work, now I'll do it the other way.

Is still a child though you have to remember that

Yes, but perhaps a beating like that will make him think twice about a life of crime, avoid jail because of it ..and go on to find the cure for cancer (or the common cold).So in that case...she'd be doing the world a ...well, a world of good. That's a lot of money you lost Vanessa..you do what you think is right.


...but for God's sake... PLEASE burglar proof your windows at least a little bit. :)

He's 17, not 7. I think it's a lil to late for a whooping. I'd set up a cam, get the proof, go to the cops, then they can't deny it.
So basically let him rob me one more time, should I just leave the keys in the door and go to work? I'll wait till all the replacement credit cards get here, add some paychecks from my job and my Niteflirt check, let him hit me on good last time! Fuck that!

Your right, you should go with what you previously stated. Get him jump, that way you won't only lose your money, you'll lose your freedom.

fred41
05-31-2009, 03:15 AM
Listen, obviously this is a frustrating situation but don't retaliate on that level. Truth told, it will blacken your soul and he'll have the ultimate one over on you. I know it's easy for an observer to preach Zen and all that, but if you're patient, this kid will find himself run afoul of the law sooner rather than later. In the meantime, take extra precautions to protect your valuables, invest in some insurance, a nanny cam and a safe and keep your receipts for all purchases. I'd hate to see this come back on you negatively, as these situations often do, patience optimism and a bit of pragmatic thinking will prevail in the end.
So who is gonna give me back the $1500, 2 cameras, 3 bikes and my daimond ring????
I say I get this bitch fucked up real good, get my moneysworth. Have me suckin dicks, getting my dick sucked, going to work every daymn day to have a punk come in and clean me out, hell no!
I did it the right way and it didnt work, now I'll do it the other way.

Is still a child though you have to remember that

Yes, but perhaps a beating like that will make him think twice about a life of crime, avoid jail because of it ..and go on to find the cure for cancer (or the common cold).So in that case...she'd be doing the world a ...well, a world of good. That's a lot of money you lost Vanessa..you do what you think is right.


...but for God's sake... PLEASE burglar proof your windows at least a little bit. :)

He's 17, not 7. I think it's a lil to late for a whooping. I'd set up a cam, get the proof, go to the cops, then they can't deny it.

It's called sarcasm. The cams a good idea...but it isn't going to get her stuff back. The beating might...it's her call.

deee757
05-31-2009, 03:16 AM
Vanessa maybe your neighborhood is changing for the worst. I dont know what part of town you stay at? But remember when they tore down all the projects and pushed those people all over the place? You was hearing of criminal activities in places you would never imagine. (Oak Park, Forest Park, Elmhurst, ect) I just hope no violence is involved with solving this. Cuz there's no longer one on one fights these days. And what was it two or three Saturdays ago when Chicago had 11 murders in one day? You know how it is when it get hot out there so, hopefully cooler head prevails and the problem is solved.

Yea, you have to admit it, first you moved in, black gay male moves in, foster kids, crime rate increases, This is a real live hood we talking about here. The middle class folks will all be moved out by summer of 2010

lmfao yup! I've seen in happen to many times. When my family had moved, it was only three black families in the area. Now it's only two white families in the area.

On a side note, if violence is brought into this. I can see this getting real ugly
My neighborhood is composed of middle classed, middle aged white people. Me moving in has not done shit to this block, all these years, then those people come in and start robbing people. Once they are gone, we gonna go back to the way we were, nice and quiet without wondering whats gonna get stolen next.

Well I'm from a mixed upper middle class neighborhood also, where there wasn't problems like these. No matter what tho, the property value decreases when a minority moves in. Even if the individual is peaceful or not. Just a person sitting on their porch can detour potential movers.
Well as soon as these people are out of here, I guess the property value on the block will rise. We have a nice Philipino family on the block, did they decrease the value too? I'm just saying this shit pisses me off on so many levels.

I live in a mostly white neighborhood, and i can admit, the noise is down and crime is defiantly not an issue. I own a home and used to live in it in a majority black and Hispanic community with a high crime level. Never any break ins robberies ect... I am a therapist by profession, and i alos work with troubled youth. So I was in the community playing football, basketball, having cookouts, and I knew, talked to, and gave advice to all the so called thug teenagers of the neighborhood, so I never had any trouble. Once you loose labels like "these people" and understand that they are apart of your community, and embrace them as apart of your community, than these types of things will stop. Until then your just another house on the block to be raided

TsVanessa69
05-31-2009, 03:18 AM
I for one don't know any neighborhood in Chicago that is exclusively one ethnicity. Also now the reverse is happening, the whites are moving into the black neighborhoods. Look at the whole area by U.I.C. I remember when that area was nothing like that. My grandparents stay in the area of westside I'll say from California and Roosevelt to Roosevelt and Racine. The apartment complex they own now is worth millions of dollars and that's in the hood. Now that whites are moving in the property value is going up. As for me I don't see race, I see social class. If a person can afford to live in a area, who is to say they can't move there based off race. I just really hope it's the black 17 yr old and he's not getting blamed because he is the token black guy.
No hes not being blamed because he is black, he;s being blamed because he stole my shit. And the land lords shit. But mighty funny nothing ever came up missing until he moved in. and funny in both robberies to my place, he was seen walking away, and his friend was riding MY bike. If he was white, I'd be mad, if he was Latino I'd be mad.SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

But race is an issue here, because if it wasn't you wouldn't of mentioned "black male". It would of just been this guy broke into my house. I was just curious why the sexual orientation and skin color was mentioned in the first place
Because it was a gag to me that it happened.

Gag? (not trying to be a smart ass but I don't understand that but nvm) Also in such the neighborhood that you mentioned. I'm surprise the cops aren't on his ass or keeping a close eye on him because he's black. Come on this is Chicago we're talking about. I also don't think that this guy is purposely picking on you. Unless he finds you as an easy target.
Well he got away with it 3 times, what do you think? Certain peoples mentality is that transexuals are easy targets because nobody gives a fuck, but maybe i should just become a shady bitch and show him somebody does.

jjhill
05-31-2009, 03:18 AM
Listen, obviously this is a frustrating situation but don't retaliate on that level. Truth told, it will blacken your soul and he'll have the ultimate one over on you. I know it's easy for an observer to preach Zen and all that, but if you're patient, this kid will find himself run afoul of the law sooner rather than later. In the meantime, take extra precautions to protect your valuables, invest in some insurance, a nanny cam and a safe and keep your receipts for all purchases. I'd hate to see this come back on you negatively, as these situations often do, patience optimism and a bit of pragmatic thinking will prevail in the end.
So who is gonna give me back the $1500, 2 cameras, 3 bikes and my daimond ring????
I say I get this bitch fucked up real good, get my moneysworth. Have me suckin dicks, getting my dick sucked, going to work every daymn day to have a punk come in and clean me out, hell no!
I did it the right way and it didnt work, now I'll do it the other way.

Is still a child though you have to remember that

Yes, but perhaps a beating like that will make him think twice about a life of crime, avoid jail because of it ..and go on to find the cure for cancer (or the common cold).So in that case...she'd be doing the world a ...well, a world of good. That's a lot of money you lost Vanessa..you do what you think is right.


...but for God's sake... PLEASE burglar proof your windows at least a little bit. :)

He's 17, not 7. I think it's a lil to late for a whooping. I'd set up a cam, get the proof, go to the cops, then they can't deny it.

It's called sarcasm. The cams a good idea...but it isn't going to get her stuff back. The beating might...it's her call.

A beating will get her jail time. It's sad that with all these intelligent minds we have on the forum, the best answer we can come up with is violence. I am Chicagoan, and I'm tired of all the violence that's been going on in general.

TsVanessa69
05-31-2009, 03:21 AM
Vanessa maybe your neighborhood is changing for the worst. I dont know what part of town you stay at? But remember when they tore down all the projects and pushed those people all over the place? You was hearing of criminal activities in places you would never imagine. (Oak Park, Forest Park, Elmhurst, ect) I just hope no violence is involved with solving this. Cuz there's no longer one on one fights these days. And what was it two or three Saturdays ago when Chicago had 11 murders in one day? You know how it is when it get hot out there so, hopefully cooler head prevails and the problem is solved.

Yea, you have to admit it, first you moved in, black gay male moves in, foster kids, crime rate increases, This is a real live hood we talking about here. The middle class folks will all be moved out by summer of 2010

lmfao yup! I've seen in happen to many times. When my family had moved, it was only three black families in the area. Now it's only two white families in the area.

On a side note, if violence is brought into this. I can see this getting real ugly
My neighborhood is composed of middle classed, middle aged white people. Me moving in has not done shit to this block, all these years, then those people come in and start robbing people. Once they are gone, we gonna go back to the way we were, nice and quiet without wondering whats gonna get stolen next.

Well I'm from a mixed upper middle class neighborhood also, where there wasn't problems like these. No matter what tho, the property value decreases when a minority moves in. Even if the individual is peaceful or not. Just a person sitting on their porch can detour potential movers.
Well as soon as these people are out of here, I guess the property value on the block will rise. We have a nice Philipino family on the block, did they decrease the value too? I'm just saying this shit pisses me off on so many levels.

I live in a mostly white neighborhood, and i can admit, the noise is down and crime is defiantly not an issue. I own a home and used to live in it in a majority black and Hispanic community with a high crime level. Never any break ins robberies ect... I am a therapist by profession, and i alos work with troubled youth. So I was in the community playing football, basketball, having cookouts, and I knew, talked to, and gave advice to all the so called thug teenagers of the neighborhood, so I never had any trouble. Once you loose labels like "these people" and understand that they are apart of your community, and embrace them as apart of your community, than these types of things will stop. Until then your just another house on the block to be raided
Fuck embracing a bastard who comes into my private home and steals money that I risk my life to make to keep my life on track. How about you take him to your house and embrace him.

jjhill
05-31-2009, 03:21 AM
I for one don't know any neighborhood in Chicago that is exclusively one ethnicity. Also now the reverse is happening, the whites are moving into the black neighborhoods. Look at the whole area by U.I.C. I remember when that area was nothing like that. My grandparents stay in the area of westside I'll say from California and Roosevelt to Roosevelt and Racine. The apartment complex they own now is worth millions of dollars and that's in the hood. Now that whites are moving in the property value is going up. As for me I don't see race, I see social class. If a person can afford to live in a area, who is to say they can't move there based off race. I just really hope it's the black 17 yr old and he's not getting blamed because he is the token black guy.
No hes not being blamed because he is black, he;s being blamed because he stole my shit. And the land lords shit. But mighty funny nothing ever came up missing until he moved in. and funny in both robberies to my place, he was seen walking away, and his friend was riding MY bike. If he was white, I'd be mad, if he was Latino I'd be mad.SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

But race is an issue here, because if it wasn't you wouldn't of mentioned "black male". It would of just been this guy broke into my house. I was just curious why the sexual orientation and skin color was mentioned in the first place
Because it was a gag to me that it happened.

Gag? (not trying to be a smart ass but I don't understand that but nvm) Also in such the neighborhood that you mentioned. I'm surprise the cops aren't on his ass or keeping a close eye on him because he's black. Come on this is Chicago we're talking about. I also don't think that this guy is purposely picking on you. Unless he finds you as an easy target.
Well he got away with it 3 times, what do you think? Certain peoples mentality is that transexuals are easy targets because nobody gives a fuck, but maybe i should just become a shady bitch and show him somebody does.

Nawww I think your gender has nothing to do with this one. I think carelessness has something to do with it. It just baffle me that your the only one who keep getting robbed. I'd think after the third time you'll be more careful. Are you leaving your doors unlocked? Windows open? You don't have an alarm system?

deee757
05-31-2009, 03:21 AM
Listen, obviously this is a frustrating situation but don't retaliate on that level. Truth told, it will blacken your soul and he'll have the ultimate one over on you. I know it's easy for an observer to preach Zen and all that, but if you're patient, this kid will find himself run afoul of the law sooner rather than later. In the meantime, take extra precautions to protect your valuables, invest in some insurance, a nanny cam and a safe and keep your receipts for all purchases. I'd hate to see this come back on you negatively, as these situations often do, patience optimism and a bit of pragmatic thinking will prevail in the end.
So who is gonna give me back the $1500, 2 cameras, 3 bikes and my daimond ring????
I say I get this bitch fucked up real good, get my moneysworth. Have me suckin dicks, getting my dick sucked, going to work every daymn day to have a punk come in and clean me out, hell no!
I did it the right way and it didnt work, now I'll do it the other way.

Is still a child though you have to remember that

Yes, but perhaps a beating like that will make him think twice about a life of crime, avoid jail because of it ..and go on to find the cure for cancer (or the common cold).So in that case...she'd be doing the world a ...well, a world of good. That's a lot of money you lost Vanessa..you do what you think is right.


...but for God's sake... PLEASE burglar proof your windows at least a little bit. :)

He's 17, not 7. I think it's a lil to late for a whooping. I'd set up a cam, get the proof, go to the cops, then they can't deny it.

It's called sarcasm. The cams a good idea...but it isn't going to get her stuff back. The beating might...it's her call.

A beating will get her jail time. It's sad that with all these intelligent minds we have on the forum, the best answer we can come up with is violence. I am Chicagoan, and I'm tired of all the violence that's been going on in general.

Not just violence, violence on a child

jjhill
05-31-2009, 03:23 AM
Listen, obviously this is a frustrating situation but don't retaliate on that level. Truth told, it will blacken your soul and he'll have the ultimate one over on you. I know it's easy for an observer to preach Zen and all that, but if you're patient, this kid will find himself run afoul of the law sooner rather than later. In the meantime, take extra precautions to protect your valuables, invest in some insurance, a nanny cam and a safe and keep your receipts for all purchases. I'd hate to see this come back on you negatively, as these situations often do, patience optimism and a bit of pragmatic thinking will prevail in the end.
So who is gonna give me back the $1500, 2 cameras, 3 bikes and my daimond ring????
I say I get this bitch fucked up real good, get my moneysworth. Have me suckin dicks, getting my dick sucked, going to work every daymn day to have a punk come in and clean me out, hell no!
I did it the right way and it didnt work, now I'll do it the other way.

Is still a child though you have to remember that

Yes, but perhaps a beating like that will make him think twice about a life of crime, avoid jail because of it ..and go on to find the cure for cancer (or the common cold).So in that case...she'd be doing the world a ...well, a world of good. That's a lot of money you lost Vanessa..you do what you think is right.


...but for God's sake... PLEASE burglar proof your windows at least a little bit. :)

He's 17, not 7. I think it's a lil to late for a whooping. I'd set up a cam, get the proof, go to the cops, then they can't deny it.

It's called sarcasm. The cams a good idea...but it isn't going to get her stuff back. The beating might...it's her call.

A beating will get her jail time. It's sad that with all these intelligent minds we have on the forum, the best answer we can come up with is violence. I am Chicagoan, and I'm tired of all the violence that's been going on in general.

Not just violence, violence on a child

Yup freedom is priceless. Also those prisoners aren't to fond on people who like to beat up on children. Cook County no joke

TsVanessa69
05-31-2009, 03:23 AM
Listen, obviously this is a frustrating situation but don't retaliate on that level. Truth told, it will blacken your soul and he'll have the ultimate one over on you. I know it's easy for an observer to preach Zen and all that, but if you're patient, this kid will find himself run afoul of the law sooner rather than later. In the meantime, take extra precautions to protect your valuables, invest in some insurance, a nanny cam and a safe and keep your receipts for all purchases. I'd hate to see this come back on you negatively, as these situations often do, patience optimism and a bit of pragmatic thinking will prevail in the end.
So who is gonna give me back the $1500, 2 cameras, 3 bikes and my daimond ring????
I say I get this bitch fucked up real good, get my moneysworth. Have me suckin dicks, getting my dick sucked, going to work every daymn day to have a punk come in and clean me out, hell no!
I did it the right way and it didnt work, now I'll do it the other way.

Is still a child though you have to remember that

Yes, but perhaps a beating like that will make him think twice about a life of crime, avoid jail because of it ..and go on to find the cure for cancer (or the common cold).So in that case...she'd be doing the world a ...well, a world of good. That's a lot of money you lost Vanessa..you do what you think is right.


...but for God's sake... PLEASE burglar proof your windows at least a little bit. :)

He's 17, not 7. I think it's a lil to late for a whooping. I'd set up a cam, get the proof, go to the cops, then they can't deny it.
So basically let him rob me one more time, should I just leave the keys in the door and go to work? I'll wait till all the replacement credit cards get here, add some paychecks from my job and my Niteflirt check, let him hit me on good last time! Fuck that!

Your right, you should go with what you previously stated. Get him jump, that way you won't only lose your money, you'll lose your freedom.
You must not know how this community works.
The money he stole, I can make back by putting an ad up on cl, and in 2 days make it back and invest it in making shure that bitch don't ever steal again!

jjhill
05-31-2009, 03:25 AM
Listen, obviously this is a frustrating situation but don't retaliate on that level. Truth told, it will blacken your soul and he'll have the ultimate one over on you. I know it's easy for an observer to preach Zen and all that, but if you're patient, this kid will find himself run afoul of the law sooner rather than later. In the meantime, take extra precautions to protect your valuables, invest in some insurance, a nanny cam and a safe and keep your receipts for all purchases. I'd hate to see this come back on you negatively, as these situations often do, patience optimism and a bit of pragmatic thinking will prevail in the end.
So who is gonna give me back the $1500, 2 cameras, 3 bikes and my daimond ring????
I say I get this bitch fucked up real good, get my moneysworth. Have me suckin dicks, getting my dick sucked, going to work every daymn day to have a punk come in and clean me out, hell no!
I did it the right way and it didnt work, now I'll do it the other way.

Is still a child though you have to remember that

Yes, but perhaps a beating like that will make him think twice about a life of crime, avoid jail because of it ..and go on to find the cure for cancer (or the common cold).So in that case...she'd be doing the world a ...well, a world of good. That's a lot of money you lost Vanessa..you do what you think is right.


...but for God's sake... PLEASE burglar proof your windows at least a little bit. :)

He's 17, not 7. I think it's a lil to late for a whooping. I'd set up a cam, get the proof, go to the cops, then they can't deny it.
So basically let him rob me one more time, should I just leave the keys in the door and go to work? I'll wait till all the replacement credit cards get here, add some paychecks from my job and my Niteflirt check, let him hit me on good last time! Fuck that!

Your right, you should go with what you previously stated. Get him jump, that way you won't only lose your money, you'll lose your freedom.
You must not know how this community works.
The money he stole, I can make back by putting an ad up on cl, and in 2 days make it back and invest it in making shure that bitch don't ever steal again!

And how would you make sure he never steals again? What community would this be? I've travel all over Chicago and the Chicagoland area. I know city like the back of my hand

TsVanessa69
05-31-2009, 03:27 AM
I for one don't know any neighborhood in Chicago that is exclusively one ethnicity. Also now the reverse is happening, the whites are moving into the black neighborhoods. Look at the whole area by U.I.C. I remember when that area was nothing like that. My grandparents stay in the area of westside I'll say from California and Roosevelt to Roosevelt and Racine. The apartment complex they own now is worth millions of dollars and that's in the hood. Now that whites are moving in the property value is going up. As for me I don't see race, I see social class. If a person can afford to live in a area, who is to say they can't move there based off race. I just really hope it's the black 17 yr old and he's not getting blamed because he is the token black guy.
No hes not being blamed because he is black, he;s being blamed because he stole my shit. And the land lords shit. But mighty funny nothing ever came up missing until he moved in. and funny in both robberies to my place, he was seen walking away, and his friend was riding MY bike. If he was white, I'd be mad, if he was Latino I'd be mad.SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

But race is an issue here, because if it wasn't you wouldn't of mentioned "black male". It would of just been this guy broke into my house. I was just curious why the sexual orientation and skin color was mentioned in the first place
Because it was a gag to me that it happened.

Gag? (not trying to be a smart ass but I don't understand that but nvm) Also in such the neighborhood that you mentioned. I'm surprise the cops aren't on his ass or keeping a close eye on him because he's black. Come on this is Chicago we're talking about. I also don't think that this guy is purposely picking on you. Unless he finds you as an easy target.
Well he got away with it 3 times, what do you think? Certain peoples mentality is that transexuals are easy targets because nobody gives a fuck, but maybe i should just become a shady bitch and show him somebody does.

Nawww I think your gender has nothing to do with this one. I think carelessness has something to do with it. It just baffle me that your the only one who keep getting robbed. I'd think after the third time you'll be more careful. Are you leaving your doors unlocked? Windows open? You don't have an alarm system?
How am I careless by paying rent to live in a home that should be safe?
Thats like saying a girl should be raped because she wore a short skirt.
Its hot weather and I have 2 cats who like to be in the window. All these years it was never an issue until they moved in. Do you lock every window everytime you step out your house to go to the corner on a hot summer day?

TsVanessa69
05-31-2009, 03:29 AM
Listen, obviously this is a frustrating situation but don't retaliate on that level. Truth told, it will blacken your soul and he'll have the ultimate one over on you. I know it's easy for an observer to preach Zen and all that, but if you're patient, this kid will find himself run afoul of the law sooner rather than later. In the meantime, take extra precautions to protect your valuables, invest in some insurance, a nanny cam and a safe and keep your receipts for all purchases. I'd hate to see this come back on you negatively, as these situations often do, patience optimism and a bit of pragmatic thinking will prevail in the end.
So who is gonna give me back the $1500, 2 cameras, 3 bikes and my daimond ring????
I say I get this bitch fucked up real good, get my moneysworth. Have me suckin dicks, getting my dick sucked, going to work every daymn day to have a punk come in and clean me out, hell no!
I did it the right way and it didnt work, now I'll do it the other way.

Is still a child though you have to remember that

Yes, but perhaps a beating like that will make him think twice about a life of crime, avoid jail because of it ..and go on to find the cure for cancer (or the common cold).So in that case...she'd be doing the world a ...well, a world of good. That's a lot of money you lost Vanessa..you do what you think is right.


...but for God's sake... PLEASE burglar proof your windows at least a little bit. :)

He's 17, not 7. I think it's a lil to late for a whooping. I'd set up a cam, get the proof, go to the cops, then they can't deny it.

It's called sarcasm. The cams a good idea...but it isn't going to get her stuff back. The beating might...it's her call.

A beating will get her jail time. It's sad that with all these intelligent minds we have on the forum, the best answer we can come up with is violence. I am Chicagoan, and I'm tired of all the violence that's been going on in general.

Not just violence, violence on a child
Well he wasnt a child when he broke in my house and stole my money. Now it seems like some people on here want to say its ok to be robbed, the theif is now becoming the victim?? Come the fuck on!

deee757
05-31-2009, 03:30 AM
Listen, obviously this is a frustrating situation but don't retaliate on that level. Truth told, it will blacken your soul and he'll have the ultimate one over on you. I know it's easy for an observer to preach Zen and all that, but if you're patient, this kid will find himself run afoul of the law sooner rather than later. In the meantime, take extra precautions to protect your valuables, invest in some insurance, a nanny cam and a safe and keep your receipts for all purchases. I'd hate to see this come back on you negatively, as these situations often do, patience optimism and a bit of pragmatic thinking will prevail in the end.
So who is gonna give me back the $1500, 2 cameras, 3 bikes and my daimond ring????
I say I get this bitch fucked up real good, get my moneysworth. Have me suckin dicks, getting my dick sucked, going to work every daymn day to have a punk come in and clean me out, hell no!
I did it the right way and it didnt work, now I'll do it the other way.

Is still a child though you have to remember that

Yes, but perhaps a beating like that will make him think twice about a life of crime, avoid jail because of it ..and go on to find the cure for cancer (or the common cold).So in that case...she'd be doing the world a ...well, a world of good. That's a lot of money you lost Vanessa..you do what you think is right.


...but for God's sake... PLEASE burglar proof your windows at least a little bit. :)

He's 17, not 7. I think it's a lil to late for a whooping. I'd set up a cam, get the proof, go to the cops, then they can't deny it.
So basically let him rob me one more time, should I just leave the keys in the door and go to work? I'll wait till all the replacement credit cards get here, add some paychecks from my job and my Niteflirt check, let him hit me on good last time! Fuck that!

Your right, you should go with what you previously stated. Get him jump, that way you won't only lose your money, you'll lose your freedom.
You must not know how this community works.
The money he stole, I can make back by putting an ad up on cl, and in 2 days make it back and invest it in making shure that bitch don't ever steal again!

But you are referring to a child, this is the same mentality that the police have when they are shooting our black and Hispanic youths that get into trouble. We are sorry for your lost, but calling children names and threatening to have something done to them is a complete injustice to any form of public decency. I know you are better than this

fred41
05-31-2009, 03:31 AM
Listen, obviously this is a frustrating situation but don't retaliate on that level. Truth told, it will blacken your soul and he'll have the ultimate one over on you. I know it's easy for an observer to preach Zen and all that, but if you're patient, this kid will find himself run afoul of the law sooner rather than later. In the meantime, take extra precautions to protect your valuables, invest in some insurance, a nanny cam and a safe and keep your receipts for all purchases. I'd hate to see this come back on you negatively, as these situations often do, patience optimism and a bit of pragmatic thinking will prevail in the end.
So who is gonna give me back the $1500, 2 cameras, 3 bikes and my daimond ring????
I say I get this bitch fucked up real good, get my moneysworth. Have me suckin dicks, getting my dick sucked, going to work every daymn day to have a punk come in and clean me out, hell no!
I did it the right way and it didnt work, now I'll do it the other way.

Is still a child though you have to remember that

Yes, but perhaps a beating like that will make him think twice about a life of crime, avoid jail because of it ..and go on to find the cure for cancer (or the common cold).So in that case...she'd be doing the world a ...well, a world of good. That's a lot of money you lost Vanessa..you do what you think is right.


...but for God's sake... PLEASE burglar proof your windows at least a little bit. :)

He's 17, not 7. I think it's a lil to late for a whooping. I'd set up a cam, get the proof, go to the cops, then they can't deny it.

It's called sarcasm. The cams a good idea...but it isn't going to get her stuff back. The beating might...it's her call.

A beating will get her jail time. It's sad that with all these intelligent minds we have on the forum, the best answer we can come up with is violence. I am Chicagoan, and I'm tired of all the violence that's been going on in general.

Okay.. let's do it your way...set up the cam (which is a great idea..no duobt)..but let's say for some reason nothing ever happens from here on in. She lost more than (I'm guessing)three grand worth of stuff she worked hard for and knows who took it. What then...just shake it off and call it even? While some smirking asshole rides her bike in front of her.

jjhill
05-31-2009, 03:31 AM
I for one don't know any neighborhood in Chicago that is exclusively one ethnicity. Also now the reverse is happening, the whites are moving into the black neighborhoods. Look at the whole area by U.I.C. I remember when that area was nothing like that. My grandparents stay in the area of westside I'll say from California and Roosevelt to Roosevelt and Racine. The apartment complex they own now is worth millions of dollars and that's in the hood. Now that whites are moving in the property value is going up. As for me I don't see race, I see social class. If a person can afford to live in a area, who is to say they can't move there based off race. I just really hope it's the black 17 yr old and he's not getting blamed because he is the token black guy.
No hes not being blamed because he is black, he;s being blamed because he stole my shit. And the land lords shit. But mighty funny nothing ever came up missing until he moved in. and funny in both robberies to my place, he was seen walking away, and his friend was riding MY bike. If he was white, I'd be mad, if he was Latino I'd be mad.SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

But race is an issue here, because if it wasn't you wouldn't of mentioned "black male". It would of just been this guy broke into my house. I was just curious why the sexual orientation and skin color was mentioned in the first place
Because it was a gag to me that it happened.

Gag? (not trying to be a smart ass but I don't understand that but nvm) Also in such the neighborhood that you mentioned. I'm surprise the cops aren't on his ass or keeping a close eye on him because he's black. Come on this is Chicago we're talking about. I also don't think that this guy is purposely picking on you. Unless he finds you as an easy target.
Well he got away with it 3 times, what do you think? Certain peoples mentality is that transexuals are easy targets because nobody gives a fuck, but maybe i should just become a shady bitch and show him somebody does.

Nawww I think your gender has nothing to do with this one. I think carelessness has something to do with it. It just baffle me that your the only one who keep getting robbed. I'd think after the third time you'll be more careful. Are you leaving your doors unlocked? Windows open? You don't have an alarm system?
How am I careless by paying rent to live in a home that should be safe?
Thats like saying a girl should be raped because she wore a short skirt.
Its hot weather and I have 2 cats who like to be in the window. All these years it was never an issue until they moved in. Do you lock every window everytime you step out your house to go to the corner on a hot summer day?

Lmfao, it should be safe but it isn't. I would think after the second time, you'd close the window. Should you have to? No, but after three times of getting robbed.....also do you know that if the boy does get beat up by somebody. Even if it isn't you, you would probably be the main suspect. Also if you do resort to violence don't post it on here.

P.S a girl could be running naked through Grant Park, that gives no one the right to touch her.

jjhill
05-31-2009, 03:33 AM
Listen, obviously this is a frustrating situation but don't retaliate on that level. Truth told, it will blacken your soul and he'll have the ultimate one over on you. I know it's easy for an observer to preach Zen and all that, but if you're patient, this kid will find himself run afoul of the law sooner rather than later. In the meantime, take extra precautions to protect your valuables, invest in some insurance, a nanny cam and a safe and keep your receipts for all purchases. I'd hate to see this come back on you negatively, as these situations often do, patience optimism and a bit of pragmatic thinking will prevail in the end.
So who is gonna give me back the $1500, 2 cameras, 3 bikes and my daimond ring????
I say I get this bitch fucked up real good, get my moneysworth. Have me suckin dicks, getting my dick sucked, going to work every daymn day to have a punk come in and clean me out, hell no!
I did it the right way and it didnt work, now I'll do it the other way.

Is still a child though you have to remember that

Yes, but perhaps a beating like that will make him think twice about a life of crime, avoid jail because of it ..and go on to find the cure for cancer (or the common cold).So in that case...she'd be doing the world a ...well, a world of good. That's a lot of money you lost Vanessa..you do what you think is right.


...but for God's sake... PLEASE burglar proof your windows at least a little bit. :)

He's 17, not 7. I think it's a lil to late for a whooping. I'd set up a cam, get the proof, go to the cops, then they can't deny it.

It's called sarcasm. The cams a good idea...but it isn't going to get her stuff back. The beating might...it's her call.

A beating will get her jail time. It's sad that with all these intelligent minds we have on the forum, the best answer we can come up with is violence. I am Chicagoan, and I'm tired of all the violence that's been going on in general.

Not just violence, violence on a child
Well he wasnt a child when he broke in my house and stole my money. Now it seems like some people on here want to say its ok to be robbed, the theif is now becoming the victim?? Come the fuck on!

I sided with the thief when violence was brought into it. Yea whoop the boy ass! That doesn't bring the money back either. That just makes you an evil person

TsVanessa69
05-31-2009, 03:34 AM
Listen, obviously this is a frustrating situation but don't retaliate on that level. Truth told, it will blacken your soul and he'll have the ultimate one over on you. I know it's easy for an observer to preach Zen and all that, but if you're patient, this kid will find himself run afoul of the law sooner rather than later. In the meantime, take extra precautions to protect your valuables, invest in some insurance, a nanny cam and a safe and keep your receipts for all purchases. I'd hate to see this come back on you negatively, as these situations often do, patience optimism and a bit of pragmatic thinking will prevail in the end.
So who is gonna give me back the $1500, 2 cameras, 3 bikes and my daimond ring????
I say I get this bitch fucked up real good, get my moneysworth. Have me suckin dicks, getting my dick sucked, going to work every daymn day to have a punk come in and clean me out, hell no!
I did it the right way and it didnt work, now I'll do it the other way.

Is still a child though you have to remember that

Yes, but perhaps a beating like that will make him think twice about a life of crime, avoid jail because of it ..and go on to find the cure for cancer (or the common cold).So in that case...she'd be doing the world a ...well, a world of good. That's a lot of money you lost Vanessa..you do what you think is right.


...but for God's sake... PLEASE burglar proof your windows at least a little bit. :)

He's 17, not 7. I think it's a lil to late for a whooping. I'd set up a cam, get the proof, go to the cops, then they can't deny it.
So basically let him rob me one more time, should I just leave the keys in the door and go to work? I'll wait till all the replacement credit cards get here, add some paychecks from my job and my Niteflirt check, let him hit me on good last time! Fuck that!

Your right, you should go with what you previously stated. Get him jump, that way you won't only lose your money, you'll lose your freedom.
You must not know how this community works.
The money he stole, I can make back by putting an ad up on cl, and in 2 days make it back and invest it in making shure that bitch don't ever steal again!

And how would you make sure he never steals again? What community would this be? I've travel all over Chicago and the Chicagoland area. I know city like the back of my hand
Then you know for the right price, anything can happen. Transexuals are killed all the time and so are street trash, nobody cares, nobody investigates. Its just one less mess for the cops to deal with. Thats real talk. When he stole the $250 boys lined up to handle it, but I thought the cops would, I'm just going to wait and see how well they do on this one. At least this time the made an attempt to take finger prints.
Since I know I'll never see my shit again, I'm gonna push to have them evicted. BUt if I wanted more to happen, it would.

jjhill
05-31-2009, 03:36 AM
Listen, obviously this is a frustrating situation but don't retaliate on that level. Truth told, it will blacken your soul and he'll have the ultimate one over on you. I know it's easy for an observer to preach Zen and all that, but if you're patient, this kid will find himself run afoul of the law sooner rather than later. In the meantime, take extra precautions to protect your valuables, invest in some insurance, a nanny cam and a safe and keep your receipts for all purchases. I'd hate to see this come back on you negatively, as these situations often do, patience optimism and a bit of pragmatic thinking will prevail in the end.
So who is gonna give me back the $1500, 2 cameras, 3 bikes and my daimond ring????
I say I get this bitch fucked up real good, get my moneysworth. Have me suckin dicks, getting my dick sucked, going to work every daymn day to have a punk come in and clean me out, hell no!
I did it the right way and it didnt work, now I'll do it the other way.

Is still a child though you have to remember that

Yes, but perhaps a beating like that will make him think twice about a life of crime, avoid jail because of it ..and go on to find the cure for cancer (or the common cold).So in that case...she'd be doing the world a ...well, a world of good. That's a lot of money you lost Vanessa..you do what you think is right.


...but for God's sake... PLEASE burglar proof your windows at least a little bit. :)

He's 17, not 7. I think it's a lil to late for a whooping. I'd set up a cam, get the proof, go to the cops, then they can't deny it.

It's called sarcasm. The cams a good idea...but it isn't going to get her stuff back. The beating might...it's her call.

A beating will get her jail time. It's sad that with all these intelligent minds we have on the forum, the best answer we can come up with is violence. I am Chicagoan, and I'm tired of all the violence that's been going on in general.

Okay.. let's do it your way...set up the cam (which is a great idea..no duobt)..but let's say for some reason nothing ever happens from here on in. She lost more than (I'm guessing)three grand worth of stuff she worked hard for and knows who took it. What then...just shake it off and call it even? While some smirking asshole rides her bike in front of her.

I refuse to believe that no action would be taken if he's caught on video tape. It's a black person we're talking about committing the crime. Which makes it hard for me to believe nothing happened in the first place. Dick E Daily (Richard M Daley) must be trying to do something for a change.

fred41
05-31-2009, 03:37 AM
I for one don't know any neighborhood in Chicago that is exclusively one ethnicity. Also now the reverse is happening, the whites are moving into the black neighborhoods. Look at the whole area by U.I.C. I remember when that area was nothing like that. My grandparents stay in the area of westside I'll say from California and Roosevelt to Roosevelt and Racine. The apartment complex they own now is worth millions of dollars and that's in the hood. Now that whites are moving in the property value is going up. As for me I don't see race, I see social class. If a person can afford to live in a area, who is to say they can't move there based off race. I just really hope it's the black 17 yr old and he's not getting blamed because he is the token black guy.
No hes not being blamed because he is black, he;s being blamed because he stole my shit. And the land lords shit. But mighty funny nothing ever came up missing until he moved in. and funny in both robberies to my place, he was seen walking away, and his friend was riding MY bike. If he was white, I'd be mad, if he was Latino I'd be mad.SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

But race is an issue here, because if it wasn't you wouldn't of mentioned "black male". It would of just been this guy broke into my house. I was just curious why the sexual orientation and skin color was mentioned in the first place
Because it was a gag to me that it happened.

Gag? (not trying to be a smart ass but I don't understand that but nvm) Also in such the neighborhood that you mentioned. I'm surprise the cops aren't on his ass or keeping a close eye on him because he's black. Come on this is Chicago we're talking about. I also don't think that this guy is purposely picking on you. Unless he finds you as an easy target.
Well he got away with it 3 times, what do you think? Certain peoples mentality is that transexuals are easy targets because nobody gives a fuck, but maybe i should just become a shady bitch and show him somebody does.

Nawww I think your gender has nothing to do with this one. I think carelessness has something to do with it. It just baffle me that your the only one who keep getting robbed. I'd think after the third time you'll be more careful. Are you leaving your doors unlocked? Windows open? You don't have an alarm system?
How am I careless by paying rent to live in a home that should be safe?
Thats like saying a girl should be raped because she wore a short skirt.
Its hot weather and I have 2 cats who like to be in the window. All these years it was never an issue until they moved in. Do you lock every window everytime you step out your house to go to the corner on a hot summer day?

Here in N.Y I do.Also got bars and rig the windows so they can only be opened so much...all in a fire safe way.

LilWyte
05-31-2009, 03:38 AM
personally I would be waiting in the hallway with a tire iron for the mother fucker, you need to show him you are not the one to be messed with.


or have a trick who lives for you wear him the fuck out

Yea, real smart, escalate the situation with physical violence. :roll:
it would be more stupid to be a pussy about it like you scared of confrontation. oh well i guess it should be expected from a dude that worships feet.

jjhill
05-31-2009, 03:39 AM
Listen, obviously this is a frustrating situation but don't retaliate on that level. Truth told, it will blacken your soul and he'll have the ultimate one over on you. I know it's easy for an observer to preach Zen and all that, but if you're patient, this kid will find himself run afoul of the law sooner rather than later. In the meantime, take extra precautions to protect your valuables, invest in some insurance, a nanny cam and a safe and keep your receipts for all purchases. I'd hate to see this come back on you negatively, as these situations often do, patience optimism and a bit of pragmatic thinking will prevail in the end.
So who is gonna give me back the $1500, 2 cameras, 3 bikes and my daimond ring????
I say I get this bitch fucked up real good, get my moneysworth. Have me suckin dicks, getting my dick sucked, going to work every daymn day to have a punk come in and clean me out, hell no!
I did it the right way and it didnt work, now I'll do it the other way.

Is still a child though you have to remember that

Yes, but perhaps a beating like that will make him think twice about a life of crime, avoid jail because of it ..and go on to find the cure for cancer (or the common cold).So in that case...she'd be doing the world a ...well, a world of good. That's a lot of money you lost Vanessa..you do what you think is right.


...but for God's sake... PLEASE burglar proof your windows at least a little bit. :)

He's 17, not 7. I think it's a lil to late for a whooping. I'd set up a cam, get the proof, go to the cops, then they can't deny it.
So basically let him rob me one more time, should I just leave the keys in the door and go to work? I'll wait till all the replacement credit cards get here, add some paychecks from my job and my Niteflirt check, let him hit me on good last time! Fuck that!

Your right, you should go with what you previously stated. Get him jump, that way you won't only lose your money, you'll lose your freedom.
You must not know how this community works.
The money he stole, I can make back by putting an ad up on cl, and in 2 days make it back and invest it in making shure that bitch don't ever steal again!

And how would you make sure he never steals again? What community would this be? I've travel all over Chicago and the Chicagoland area. I know city like the back of my hand
Then you know for the right price, anything can happen. Transexuals are killed all the time and so are street trash, nobody cares, nobody investigates. Its just one less mess for the cops to deal with. Thats real talk. When he stole the $250 boys lined up to handle it, but I thought the cops would, I'm just going to wait and see how well they do on this one. At least this time the made an attempt to take finger prints.
Since I know I'll never see my shit again, I'm gonna push to have them evicted. BUt if I wanted more to happen, it would.


How could you even sleep at night, knowing that your responsible for getting a 17 yr old jumped? Also how you know this 17 year old don't have boys of his own?

jjhill
05-31-2009, 03:40 AM
personally I would be waiting in the hallway with a tire iron for the mother fucker, you need to show him you are not the one to be messed with.


or have a trick who lives for you wear him the fuck out

Yea, real smart, escalate the situation with physical violence. :roll:
it would be more stupid to be a pussy about it like you scared of confrontation. oh well i guess it should be expected from a dude that worships feet.

Lil Wyteeeeeee what's good? I was asking rubes about you yesterday lol

deee757
05-31-2009, 03:41 AM
Ok Vanessa, you and your adult rational decision making friends should go beat up a seventeen year old child and teach him a lesson about adult hood. Let him know that you are not going to take it anymore and he should feel the wrath of your rage. And when yall are finished wish him the best of luck at becoming a productive citizen in society. Let him know you utilized all your previous life experiences and maturity to teach him a lesson

TsVanessa69
05-31-2009, 03:42 AM
So who is gonna give me back the $1500, 2 cameras, 3 bikes and my daimond ring????
I say I get this bitch fucked up real good, get my moneysworth. Have me suckin dicks, getting my dick sucked, going to work every daymn day to have a punk come in and clean me out, hell no!
I did it the right way and it didnt work, now I'll do it the other way.

Is still a child though you have to remember that

Yes, but perhaps a beating like that will make him think twice about a life of crime, avoid jail because of it ..and go on to find the cure for cancer (or the common cold).So in that case...she'd be doing the world a ...well, a world of good. That's a lot of money you lost Vanessa..you do what you think is right.


...but for God's sake... PLEASE burglar proof your windows at least a little bit. :)

He's 17, not 7. I think it's a lil to late for a whooping. I'd set up a cam, get the proof, go to the cops, then they can't deny it.

It's called sarcasm. The cams a good idea...but it isn't going to get her stuff back. The beating might...it's her call.

A beating will get her jail time. It's sad that with all these intelligent minds we have on the forum, the best answer we can come up with is violence. I am Chicagoan, and I'm tired of all the violence that's been going on in general.

Not just violence, violence on a child
Well he wasnt a child when he broke in my house and stole my money. Now it seems like some people on here want to say its ok to be robbed, the theif is now becoming the victim?? Come the fuck on!

I sided with the thief when violence was brought into it. Yea whoop the boy ass! That doesn't bring the money back either. That just makes you an evil person
I can live with that! I been nice, and good for so long, one bad deed wont make or break me. Thats why these kids go from robbing to killing, people like you finding a way to make them out to be the victim.

jjhill
05-31-2009, 03:43 AM
Ok Vanessa, you and your adult rational decision making friends should go beat up a seventeen year old child and teach him a lesson about adult hood. Let him know that you are not going to take it anymore and he should feel the wrath of your rage. And when yall are finished wish him the best of luck at becoming a productive citizen in society. Let him know you utilized all your previous life experiences and maturity to teach him a lesson

I couldn't of put it any better myself. Like I said, as a Chicagoan I'm tired of all the violence that been going on. Don't let your neighbors know that you wanna beat up a 17 yr old. They'll start looking at you funny when you leave the house.

jjhill
05-31-2009, 03:46 AM
[quote:d3de531f6b="TheGuard"]
So who is gonna give me back the $1500, 2 cameras, 3 bikes and my daimond ring????
I say I get this bitch fucked up real good, get my moneysworth. Have me suckin dicks, getting my dick sucked, going to work every daymn day to have a punk come in and clean me out, hell no!
I did it the right way and it didnt work, now I'll do it the other way.

Is still a child though you have to remember that

Yes, but perhaps a beating like that will make him think twice about a life of crime, avoid jail because of it ..and go on to find the cure for cancer (or the common cold).So in that case...she'd be doing the world a ...well, a world of good. That's a lot of money you lost Vanessa..you do what you think is right.


...but for God's sake... PLEASE burglar proof your windows at least a little bit. :)

He's 17, not 7. I think it's a lil to late for a whooping. I'd set up a cam, get the proof, go to the cops, then they can't deny it.

It's called sarcasm. The cams a good idea...but it isn't going to get her stuff back. The beating might...it's her call.

A beating will get her jail time. It's sad that with all these intelligent minds we have on the forum, the best answer we can come up with is violence. I am Chicagoan, and I'm tired of all the violence that's been going on in general.

Not just violence, violence on a child
Well he wasnt a child when he broke in my house and stole my money. Now it seems like some people on here want to say its ok to be robbed, the theif is now becoming the victim?? Come the fuck on!

I sided with the thief when violence was brought into it. Yea whoop the boy ass! That doesn't bring the money back either. That just makes you an evil person
I can live with that! I been nice, and good for so long, one bad deed wont make or break me. Thats why these kids go from robbing to killing, people like you finding a way to make them out to be the victim.[/quote:d3de531f6b]

Let the boy get beating to death and we'll see if one bad deed makes or break you. Let him accidentally fall while getting jumped. It's like your hiring a hitman since we're making assumptions.

fred41
05-31-2009, 03:47 AM
Ok Vanessa, you and your adult rational decision making friends should go beat up a seventeen year old child and teach him a lesson about adult hood. Let him know that you are not going to take it anymore and he should feel the wrath of your rage. And when yall are finished wish him the best of luck at becoming a productive citizen in society. Let him know you utilized all your previous life experiences and maturity to teach him a lesson

I couldn't of put it any better myself. Like I said, as a Chicagoan I'm tired of all the violence that been going on. Don't let your neighbors know that you wanna beat up a 17 yr old. They'll start looking at you funny when you leave the house.

I'm betting her neighbors don't give a fuck that he's 17....or his friends.

TsVanessa69
05-31-2009, 03:47 AM
[quote:3ed0db1acc="TheGuard"]Listen, obviously this is a frustrating situation but don't retaliate on that level. Truth told, it will blacken your soul and he'll have the ultimate one over on you. I know it's easy for an observer to preach Zen and all that, but if you're patient, this kid will find himself run afoul of the law sooner rather than later. In the meantime, take extra precautions to protect your valuables, invest in some insurance, a nanny cam and a safe and keep your receipts for all purchases. I'd hate to see this come back on you negatively, as these situations often do, patience optimism and a bit of pragmatic thinking will prevail in the end.
So who is gonna give me back the $1500, 2 cameras, 3 bikes and my daimond ring????
I say I get this bitch fucked up real good, get my moneysworth. Have me suckin dicks, getting my dick sucked, going to work every daymn day to have a punk come in and clean me out, hell no!
I did it the right way and it didnt work, now I'll do it the other way.

Is still a child though you have to remember that

Yes, but perhaps a beating like that will make him think twice about a life of crime, avoid jail because of it ..and go on to find the cure for cancer (or the common cold).So in that case...she'd be doing the world a ...well, a world of good. That's a lot of money you lost Vanessa..you do what you think is right.


...but for God's sake... PLEASE burglar proof your windows at least a little bit. :)

He's 17, not 7. I think it's a lil to late for a whooping. I'd set up a cam, get the proof, go to the cops, then they can't deny it.
So basically let him rob me one more time, should I just leave the keys in the door and go to work? I'll wait till all the replacement credit cards get here, add some paychecks from my job and my Niteflirt check, let him hit me on good last time! Fuck that!

Your right, you should go with what you previously stated. Get him jump, that way you won't only lose your money, you'll lose your freedom.
You must not know how this community works.
The money he stole, I can make back by putting an ad up on cl, and in 2 days make it back and invest it in making shure that bitch don't ever steal again!

And how would you make sure he never steals again? What community would this be? I've travel all over Chicago and the Chicagoland area. I know city like the back of my hand
Then you know for the right price, anything can happen. Transexuals are killed all the time and so are street trash, nobody cares, nobody investigates. Its just one less mess for the cops to deal with. Thats real talk. When he stole the $250 boys lined up to handle it, but I thought the cops would, I'm just going to wait and see how well they do on this one. At least this time the made an attempt to take finger prints.
Since I know I'll never see my shit again, I'm gonna push to have them evicted. BUt if I wanted more to happen, it would.


How could you even sleep at night, knowing that your responsible for getting a 17 yr old jumped? Also how you know this 17 year old don't have boys of his own?[/quote:3ed0db1acc]
Just like he slept fine with over $1500 of my money, 3 of my bikes, 2 of my cameras,and my diamnond ring! that I risk my life to make, and like i said people like you are a gag, to make a bold ass thief like him out to be the victim. Typical :roll: :roll: :roll:

jjhill
05-31-2009, 03:48 AM
It's also obvious that you didn't have the minimal amount of proof required to even make an arrest on the kid. This is CPD like we're talking about, especially when they're the only blacks in the neighborhood. This is not making sense to me at all.

fred41
05-31-2009, 03:49 AM
maybe his birthday is tomorrow and he'll turn 18.

2009AD
05-31-2009, 03:49 AM
The money he stole, I can make back by putting an ad up on cl, and in 2 days make it back and invest it in making shure that bitch don't ever steal again!

SMH. If the money is that easily replaced, then why not invest it in a security system?

Sounds like you want to pay someone to beat up the guy. That would be the dumbest thing you could do. If he finds out you were involved he could retaliate. If the thugs you send his way take it too far, he could end up severely injured or worse, and you would be an accomplice.

Be smart, don't do something that will cost you your job and your freedom.

TsVanessa69
05-31-2009, 03:49 AM
[quote:92f4148de3="TsVanessa69"][quote:92f4148de3="TheGuard"]


Is still a child though you have to remember that

Yes, but perhaps a beating like that will make him think twice about a life of crime, avoid jail because of it ..and go on to find the cure for cancer (or the common cold).So in that case...she'd be doing the world a ...well, a world of good. That's a lot of money you lost Vanessa..you do what you think is right.


...but for God's sake... PLEASE burglar proof your windows at least a little bit. :)

He's 17, not 7. I think it's a lil to late for a whooping. I'd set up a cam, get the proof, go to the cops, then they can't deny it.

It's called sarcasm. The cams a good idea...but it isn't going to get her stuff back. The beating might...it's her call.

A beating will get her jail time. It's sad that with all these intelligent minds we have on the forum, the best answer we can come up with is violence. I am Chicagoan, and I'm tired of all the violence that's been going on in general.

Not just violence, violence on a child
Well he wasnt a child when he broke in my house and stole my money. Now it seems like some people on here want to say its ok to be robbed, the theif is now becoming the victim?? Come the fuck on!

I sided with the thief when violence was brought into it. Yea whoop the boy ass! That doesn't bring the money back either. That just makes you an evil person
I can live with that! I been nice, and good for so long, one bad deed wont make or break me. Thats why these kids go from robbing to killing, people like you finding a way to make them out to be the victim.[/quote:92f4148de3]

Let the boy get beating to death and we'll see if one bad deed makes or break you. Let him accidentally fall while getting jumped. It's like your hiring a hitman since we're making assumptions.[/quote:92f4148de3]
Lets see, Chicago, young african american male, already in the system, with 4 complaints filed against him, HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

deee757
05-31-2009, 03:49 AM
Ok Vanessa, you and your adult rational decision making friends should go beat up a seventeen year old child and teach him a lesson about adult hood. Let him know that you are not going to take it anymore and he should feel the wrath of your rage. And when yall are finished wish him the best of luck at becoming a productive citizen in society. Let him know you utilized all your previous life experiences and maturity to teach him a lesson

I couldn't of put it any better myself. Like I said, as a Chicagoan I'm tired of all the violence that been going on. Don't let your neighbors know that you wanna beat up a 17 yr old. They'll start looking at you funny when you leave the house.

I'm betting her neighbors don't give a fuck that he's 17....or his friends.

Neither do the police who keep 16 in the clip and one in the hole for yourg black juvenile delinquents

jjhill
05-31-2009, 03:50 AM
[quote:ba31bcbbb4="deee757"][quote:ba31bcbbb4="TsVanessa69"][quote:ba31bcbbb4="TheGuard"]


Is still a child though you have to remember that

Yes, but perhaps a beating like that will make him think twice about a life of crime, avoid jail because of it ..and go on to find the cure for cancer (or the common cold).So in that case...she'd be doing the world a ...well, a world of good. That's a lot of money you lost Vanessa..you do what you think is right.


...but for God's sake... PLEASE burglar proof your windows at least a little bit. :)

He's 17, not 7. I think it's a lil to late for a whooping. I'd set up a cam, get the proof, go to the cops, then they can't deny it.

It's called sarcasm. The cams a good idea...but it isn't going to get her stuff back. The beating might...it's her call.

A beating will get her jail time. It's sad that with all these intelligent minds we have on the forum, the best answer we can come up with is violence. I am Chicagoan, and I'm tired of all the violence that's been going on in general.

Not just violence, violence on a child
Well he wasnt a child when he broke in my house and stole my money. Now it seems like some people on here want to say its ok to be robbed, the theif is now becoming the victim?? Come the fuck on!

I sided with the thief when violence was brought into it. Yea whoop the boy ass! That doesn't bring the money back either. That just makes you an evil person
I can live with that! I been nice, and good for so long, one bad deed wont make or break me. Thats why these kids go from robbing to killing, people like you finding a way to make them out to be the victim.[/quote:ba31bcbbb4]

Let the boy get beating to death and we'll see if one bad deed makes or break you. Let him accidentally fall while getting jumped. It's like your hiring a hitman since we're making assumptions.[/quote:ba31bcbbb4]
Lets see, Chicago, young african american male, already in the system, with 4 complaints filed against him, HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM[/quote:ba31bcbbb4]

Are you making a generalization here, or you know this for a fact?

deee757
05-31-2009, 03:51 AM
18 years ago, this was you Vanessa

fred41
05-31-2009, 03:53 AM
Ok Vanessa, you and your adult rational decision making friends should go beat up a seventeen year old child and teach him a lesson about adult hood. Let him know that you are not going to take it anymore and he should feel the wrath of your rage. And when yall are finished wish him the best of luck at becoming a productive citizen in society. Let him know you utilized all your previous life experiences and maturity to teach him a lesson

I couldn't of put it any better myself. Like I said, as a Chicagoan I'm tired of all the violence that been going on. Don't let your neighbors know that you wanna beat up a 17 yr old. They'll start looking at you funny when you leave the house.

I'm betting her neighbors don't give a fuck that he's 17....or his friends.

Neither do the police who keep 16 in the clip and one in the hole for yourg black juvenile delinquents

What does THAT have to do with her situation.

TsVanessa69
05-31-2009, 03:55 AM
The money he stole, I can make back by putting an ad up on cl, and in 2 days make it back and invest it in making shure that bitch don't ever steal again!

SMH. If the money is that easily replaced, then why not invest it in a security system?

Sounds like you want to pay someone to beat up the guy. That would be the dumbest thing you could do. If he finds out you were involved he could retaliate. If the thugs you send his way take it too far, he could end up severely injured or worse, and you would be an accomplice.

Be smart, don't do something that will cost you your job and your freedom.
Its not the point of being easily replaced, its how people get away with shit.
To live in my building, and use my home as your own personal ATM and not be punished?
Are you fuckkin serious.
He didnt take $20,
he took from me alone:
$1200 cash
$250 cash
$300 swinn bike
$275 Cannon camera
$180 kodak camera
$1300 diamond ring.
Now add all that up and see how the fuck you would feel after working like a dog and turning tricks who at any time could kill you and see how you would feel.
Mind you this actually from the dates on my police reports, happened in a 3 week period. Not even a month! And now the poor theif is now the victim???
Give me a fukkin break!

Ryz
05-31-2009, 03:56 AM
This is quite the good read

TsVanessa69
05-31-2009, 03:58 AM
It's also obvious that you didn't have the minimal amount of proof required to even make an arrest on the kid. This is CPD like we're talking about, especially when they're the only blacks in the neighborhood. This is not making sense to me at all.
The police agreed it was him. his father agreed it was him, the other victim agreed it was him. He was at the scene of both crimes.
The police said they wish the could do more, but laws are funny. They even told the landlord that he should evict them. Never have we been robbed before, but now its back to back? come on now even you know whats up, but I understand you gotta save face.

jjhill
05-31-2009, 03:58 AM
The money he stole, I can make back by putting an ad up on cl, and in 2 days make it back and invest it in making shure that bitch don't ever steal again!

SMH. If the money is that easily replaced, then why not invest it in a security system?

Sounds like you want to pay someone to beat up the guy. That would be the dumbest thing you could do. If he finds out you were involved he could retaliate. If the thugs you send his way take it too far, he could end up severely injured or worse, and you would be an accomplice.

Be smart, don't do something that will cost you your job and your freedom.
Its not the point of being easily replaced, its how people get away with shit.
To live in my building, and use my home as your own personal ATM and not be punished?
Are you fuckkin serious.
He didnt take $20,
he took from me alone:
$1200 cash
$250 cash
$300 swinn bike
$275 Cannon camera
$180 kodak camera
$1300 diamond ring.
Now add all that up and see how the fuck you would feel after working like a dog and turning tricks who at any time could kill you and see how you would feel.
Mind you this actually from the dates on my police reports, happened in a 3 week period. Not even a month! And now the poor theif is now the victim???
Give me a fukkin break!


Your right, A human life I would say is worth uh one thousand dollars....it's not priceless at all

deee757
05-31-2009, 03:59 AM
Ok Vanessa, you and your adult rational decision making friends should go beat up a seventeen year old child and teach him a lesson about adult hood. Let him know that you are not going to take it anymore and he should feel the wrath of your rage. And when yall are finished wish him the best of luck at becoming a productive citizen in society. Let him know you utilized all your previous life experiences and maturity to teach him a lesson

I couldn't of put it any better myself. Like I said, as a Chicagoan I'm tired of all the violence that been going on. Don't let your neighbors know that you wanna beat up a 17 yr old. They'll start looking at you funny when you leave the house.

I'm betting her neighbors don't give a fuck that he's 17....or his friends.

Neither do the police who keep 16 in the clip and one in the hole for yourg black juvenile delinquents

What does THAT have to do with her situation.

Cause this same mentality has us attending funerals for our youth that have been shot by police officers

jjhill
05-31-2009, 03:59 AM
It's also obvious that you didn't have the minimal amount of proof required to even make an arrest on the kid. This is CPD like we're talking about, especially when they're the only blacks in the neighborhood. This is not making sense to me at all.
The police agreed it was him. his fateher agreed it was him, the other victim agreed it was him. He was at the scene of both crimes.
The police said they wish the could do more, but laws are funny. Never have we been robbed before, but now its back to back? come on now even you know whats up, but I understand you gotta save face.


When I was 15 I would say yea whoop his ass! I'm not 15 any more. I'm not saving face. I'm shocked that the CPD not trying to put a black teen in jail. That's why I'm shock.

TsVanessa69
05-31-2009, 04:01 AM
Ok Vanessa, you and your adult rational decision making friends should go beat up a seventeen year old child and teach him a lesson about adult hood. Let him know that you are not going to take it anymore and he should feel the wrath of your rage. And when yall are finished wish him the best of luck at becoming a productive citizen in society. Let him know you utilized all your previous life experiences and maturity to teach him a lesson

I couldn't of put it any better myself. Like I said, as a Chicagoan I'm tired of all the violence that been going on. Don't let your neighbors know that you wanna beat up a 17 yr old. They'll start looking at you funny when you leave the house.

I'm betting her neighbors don't give a fuck that he's 17....or his friends.

Neither do the police who keep 16 in the clip and one in the hole for yourg black juvenile delinquents
GOOD POINT! I COMPLETLY FORGOT ABOUT THAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

mimiplastique
05-31-2009, 04:01 AM
I know some people are going to interpet what I say in so many ways, but here is the issue.
I moved to an upper middle class white neighborhood in 2003. I LOVE my apartment, its a 2 flat, my landlord lives upstairs, and he is kool with what I do because he "dates" ts. And in the back there are 2 smaller apartments. I travel to NYC alot, and in all these years, I have never had a problem, my neighbors are all kool respectable people. NEVER had an issue. So last summer a gay black man moved into the back apartment with a 17 year old foster child. when they first moved in, my Shwinn bycycle was stolen. We, the landlord and I were puzzled and said maybe somebody left the door open and a stranger came in and took it. Mind you our basement is always loked and only those in the building have acess to the basement. SO I bought a second bike for myself, and at the same time my bf got a dirtbike. Fast forward to January. My landlord comes to me and says check my private storage area because his sons $600 mountain bike was stolen. I go and BOTH bikes are gone and a printer. We call the police, nothing happens. 2 weeks agao the foster kid is in front of the building, and his friend is riding MY bike down the street. So I go to the currancy exchange on the corner. He pulled the screen out of my front window, left in on the ground, crawled through th window and stole $250 and a Cannon camera off my tv top.
I get home, call the police, make a report, and talk to the gay black man about what his son did. The guy said let the police do what they have to do. Now yesterday I go to work, rent is due, and I have in an envelope $1,100 which is my rent money, and I had $150 just thrown in there because I dont take cash or credit cards to work. The bitch stole all the money, all the credit cards, and my other camera. The same police come back, this mind you the 3rd time in less than a month. They can only do fingerprints they say on the crime scene. Both times a screen was removed from the window. BUT my landlord moved the screen from the scene both times so they said they cant print it once it is moved. The police think I am bullshitting, and wont come back. Yet I am out of 3 bikes, 2 cameras and over $1500 in cash. Both robberies, he was seen at the scene. But not in the building, WHAT CAN I DO???


steal your shit back BITCH ! need help ???

jjhill
05-31-2009, 04:02 AM
[quote:10e4dec65c="deee757"][quote:10e4dec65c="TsVanessa69"][quote:10e4dec65c="TheGuard"]


Is still a child though you have to remember that

Yes, but perhaps a beating like that will make him think twice about a life of crime, avoid jail because of it ..and go on to find the cure for cancer (or the common cold).So in that case...she'd be doing the world a ...well, a world of good. That's a lot of money you lost Vanessa..you do what you think is right.


...but for God's sake... PLEASE burglar proof your windows at least a little bit. :)

He's 17, not 7. I think it's a lil to late for a whooping. I'd set up a cam, get the proof, go to the cops, then they can't deny it.

It's called sarcasm. The cams a good idea...but it isn't going to get her stuff back. The beating might...it's her call.

A beating will get her jail time. It's sad that with all these intelligent minds we have on the forum, the best answer we can come up with is violence. I am Chicagoan, and I'm tired of all the violence that's been going on in general.

Not just violence, violence on a child
Well he wasnt a child when he broke in my house and stole my money. Now it seems like some people on here want to say its ok to be robbed, the theif is now becoming the victim?? Come the fuck on!

I sided with the thief when violence was brought into it. Yea whoop the boy ass! That doesn't bring the money back either. That just makes you an evil person
I can live with that! I been nice, and good for so long, one bad deed wont make or break me. Thats why these kids go from robbing to killing, people like you finding a way to make them out to be the victim.[/quote:10e4dec65c]

Let the boy get beating to death and we'll see if one bad deed makes or break you. Let him accidentally fall while getting jumped. It's like your hiring a hitman since we're making assumptions.[/quote:10e4dec65c]
Lets see, Chicago, young african american male, already in the system, with 4 complaints filed against him, HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM[/quote:10e4dec65c]

Oh yea when this black Chicagoan was 17, I was away at school working on my undergrad.

TsVanessa69
05-31-2009, 04:02 AM
Ok Vanessa, you and your adult rational decision making friends should go beat up a seventeen year old child and teach him a lesson about adult hood. Let him know that you are not going to take it anymore and he should feel the wrath of your rage. And when yall are finished wish him the best of luck at becoming a productive citizen in society. Let him know you utilized all your previous life experiences and maturity to teach him a lesson

I couldn't of put it any better myself. Like I said, as a Chicagoan I'm tired of all the violence that been going on. Don't let your neighbors know that you wanna beat up a 17 yr old. They'll start looking at you funny when you leave the house.

I'm betting her neighbors don't give a fuck that he's 17....or his friends.

Neither do the police who keep 16 in the clip and one in the hole for yourg black juvenile delinquents

What does THAT have to do with her situation.

Cause this same mentality has us attending funerals for our youth that have been shot by police officers
After this situation, I just have to say, you dont know what that teen did to get themselves in that situation.

deee757
05-31-2009, 04:03 AM
It's also obvious that you didn't have the minimal amount of proof required to even make an arrest on the kid. This is CPD like we're talking about, especially when they're the only blacks in the neighborhood. This is not making sense to me at all.
The police agreed it was him. his fateher agreed it was him, the other victim agreed it was him. He was at the scene of both crimes.
The police said they wish the could do more, but laws are funny. Never have we been robbed before, but now its back to back? come on now even you know whats up, but I understand you gotta save face.


When I was 15 I would say yea whoop his ass! I'm not 15 any more. I'm not saving face. I'm shocked that the CPD not trying to put a black teen in jail. That's why I'm shock.

Man, that's the whole point here, I am 32 years old, if my 32 year old answers are the same as my 15 year old answers to problems, than I need some help ASAP

2009AD
05-31-2009, 04:03 AM
The money he stole, I can make back by putting an ad up on cl, and in 2 days make it back and invest it in making shure that bitch don't ever steal again!

SMH. If the money is that easily replaced, then why not invest it in a security system?

Sounds like you want to pay someone to beat up the guy. That would be the dumbest thing you could do. If he finds out you were involved he could retaliate. If the thugs you send his way take it too far, he could end up severely injured or worse, and you would be an accomplice.

Be smart, don't do something that will cost you your job and your freedom.
Its not the point of being easily replaced, its how people get away with shit.
To live in my building, and use my home as your own personal ATM and not be punished?
Are you fuckkin serious.
He didnt take $20,
he took from me alone:
$1200 cash
$250 cash
$300 swinn bike
$275 Cannon camera
$180 kodak camera
$1300 diamond ring.
Now add all that up and see how the fuck you would feel after working like a dog and turning tricks who at any time could kill you and see how you would feel.
Mind you this actually from the dates on my police reports, happened in a 3 week period. Not even a month! And now the poor theif is now the victim???
Give me a fukkin break!


I'm not saying he's a victim. What I am saying is that if you pay someone to injure him and you are caught, you will be the one facing a judge. The guy broke the law by stealing from you, but that does not give you the legal right to have him beaten up.

Burglar proof your living quarters, buy renter's insurance, and don't leave large sums of money laying around.

jjhill
05-31-2009, 04:04 AM
Ok Vanessa, you and your adult rational decision making friends should go beat up a seventeen year old child and teach him a lesson about adult hood. Let him know that you are not going to take it anymore and he should feel the wrath of your rage. And when yall are finished wish him the best of luck at becoming a productive citizen in society. Let him know you utilized all your previous life experiences and maturity to teach him a lesson

I couldn't of put it any better myself. Like I said, as a Chicagoan I'm tired of all the violence that been going on. Don't let your neighbors know that you wanna beat up a 17 yr old. They'll start looking at you funny when you leave the house.

I'm betting her neighbors don't give a fuck that he's 17....or his friends.

Neither do the police who keep 16 in the clip and one in the hole for yourg black juvenile delinquents

What does THAT have to do with her situation.

Cause this same mentality has us attending funerals for our youth that have been shot by police officers
After this situation, I just have to say, you dont know what that teen did to get themselves in that situation.

Ok, you get the boy jumped.....then he come back and have you jumped. That type of mentality is why the People and Folk nation been killing each other for decades

TsVanessa69
05-31-2009, 04:04 AM
I know some people are going to interpet what I say in so many ways, but here is the issue.
I moved to an upper middle class white neighborhood in 2003. I LOVE my apartment, its a 2 flat, my landlord lives upstairs, and he is kool with what I do because he "dates" ts. And in the back there are 2 smaller apartments. I travel to NYC alot, and in all these years, I have never had a problem, my neighbors are all kool respectable people. NEVER had an issue. So last summer a gay black man moved into the back apartment with a 17 year old foster child. when they first moved in, my Shwinn bycycle was stolen. We, the landlord and I were puzzled and said maybe somebody left the door open and a stranger came in and took it. Mind you our basement is always loked and only those in the building have acess to the basement. SO I bought a second bike for myself, and at the same time my bf got a dirtbike. Fast forward to January. My landlord comes to me and says check my private storage area because his sons $600 mountain bike was stolen. I go and BOTH bikes are gone and a printer. We call the police, nothing happens. 2 weeks agao the foster kid is in front of the building, and his friend is riding MY bike down the street. So I go to the currancy exchange on the corner. He pulled the screen out of my front window, left in on the ground, crawled through th window and stole $250 and a Cannon camera off my tv top.
I get home, call the police, make a report, and talk to the gay black man about what his son did. The guy said let the police do what they have to do. Now yesterday I go to work, rent is due, and I have in an envelope $1,100 which is my rent money, and I had $150 just thrown in there because I dont take cash or credit cards to work. The bitch stole all the money, all the credit cards, and my other camera. The same police come back, this mind you the 3rd time in less than a month. They can only do fingerprints they say on the crime scene. Both times a screen was removed from the window. BUT my landlord moved the screen from the scene both times so they said they cant print it once it is moved. The police think I am bullshitting, and wont come back. Yet I am out of 3 bikes, 2 cameras and over $1500 in cash. Both robberies, he was seen at the scene. But not in the building, WHAT CAN I DO???


steal your shit back BITCH ! need help ???
Bianca said catch him and drag him in the basement and cut his ankles and watch that bitch try and run! She said it would be funnier if we poured hot sause in the cuts.

BLKGSXR
05-31-2009, 04:04 AM
The money he stole, I can make back by putting an ad up on cl, and in 2 days make it back and invest it in making shure that bitch don't ever steal again!

SMH. If the money is that easily replaced, then why not invest it in a security system?

Sounds like you want to pay someone to beat up the guy. That would be the dumbest thing you could do. If he finds out you were involved he could retaliate. If the thugs you send his way take it too far, he could end up severely injured or worse, and you would be an accomplice.

Be smart, don't do something that will cost you your job and your freedom.
Its not the point of being easily replaced, its how people get away with shit.
To live in my building, and use my home as your own personal ATM and not be punished?
Are you fuckkin serious.
He didnt take $20,
he took from me alone:
$1200 cash
$250 cash
$300 swinn bike
$275 Cannon camera
$180 kodak camera
$1300 diamond ring.
Now add all that up and see how the fuck you would feel after working like a dog and turning tricks who at any time could kill you and see how you would feel.
Mind you this actually from the dates on my police reports, happened in a 3 week period. Not even a month! And now the poor theif is now the victim???
Give me a fukkin break!Grand theft,larceny etc... Cops failed to complete their job big time civil suit against the city of chicago.....worth X amount of dollars.. X meaning more than 100k....

fred41
05-31-2009, 04:04 AM
Have you ever been to court..do you know how it works? Even if he gets arrested...if he doesn't take a plea (because he knows his main witness is a TS)..then she might have to take the witness stand at some point so that her smart ass attorney will then have an opportunity to try and humiliate her....cause that's how it works.

LilWyte
05-31-2009, 04:05 AM
personally I would be waiting in the hallway with a tire iron for the mother fucker, you need to show him you are not the one to be messed with.


or have a trick who lives for you wear him the fuck out

Yea, real smart, escalate the situation with physical violence. :roll:
it would be more stupid to be a pussy about it like you scared of confrontation. oh well i guess it should be expected from a dude that worships feet.

Lil Wyteeeeeee what's good? I was asking rubes about you yesterday lol
lol what it do

TsVanessa69
05-31-2009, 04:06 AM
Ok Vanessa, you and your adult rational decision making friends should go beat up a seventeen year old child and teach him a lesson about adult hood. Let him know that you are not going to take it anymore and he should feel the wrath of your rage. And when yall are finished wish him the best of luck at becoming a productive citizen in society. Let him know you utilized all your previous life experiences and maturity to teach him a lesson

I couldn't of put it any better myself. Like I said, as a Chicagoan I'm tired of all the violence that been going on. Don't let your neighbors know that you wanna beat up a 17 yr old. They'll start looking at you funny when you leave the house.

I'm betting her neighbors don't give a fuck that he's 17....or his friends.

Neither do the police who keep 16 in the clip and one in the hole for yourg black juvenile delinquents

What does THAT have to do with her situation.

Cause this same mentality has us attending funerals for our youth that have been shot by police officers
After this situation, I just have to say, you dont know what that teen did to get themselves in that situation.

Ok, you get the boy jumped.....then he come back and have you jumped. That type of mentality is why the People and Folk nation been killing each other for decades
Thanks, I completely forgot about the Folks!
Your a bigger help than what I was gonna give you credit for.

deee757
05-31-2009, 04:06 AM
Ok Vanessa, you and your adult rational decision making friends should go beat up a seventeen year old child and teach him a lesson about adult hood. Let him know that you are not going to take it anymore and he should feel the wrath of your rage. And when yall are finished wish him the best of luck at becoming a productive citizen in society. Let him know you utilized all your previous life experiences and maturity to teach him a lesson

I couldn't of put it any better myself. Like I said, as a Chicagoan I'm tired of all the violence that been going on. Don't let your neighbors know that you wanna beat up a 17 yr old. They'll start looking at you funny when you leave the house.

I'm betting her neighbors don't give a fuck that he's 17....or his friends.

Neither do the police who keep 16 in the clip and one in the hole for yourg black juvenile delinquents

What does THAT have to do with her situation.

Cause this same mentality has us attending funerals for our youth that have been shot by police officers
After this situation, I just have to say, you dont know what that teen did to get themselves in that situation.

Is like this, I steal your items for material gain (because I am a underprivileged teen) you call the police, the police see a black male who will be a thug for a long time in this society, the police shoot him in the back, hes dead, over your 1500 dollar rent. you can determine the worth from there

TsVanessa69
05-31-2009, 04:07 AM
Have you ever been to court..do you know how it works? Even if he gets arrested...if he doesn't take a plea (because he knows his main witness is a TS)..then she might have to take the witness stand at some point so that her smart ass attorney will then have an opportunity to try and humiliate her....cause that's how it works.
So we agree, go with plan B then????

jjhill
05-31-2009, 04:09 AM
Ok Vanessa, you and your adult rational decision making friends should go beat up a seventeen year old child and teach him a lesson about adult hood. Let him know that you are not going to take it anymore and he should feel the wrath of your rage. And when yall are finished wish him the best of luck at becoming a productive citizen in society. Let him know you utilized all your previous life experiences and maturity to teach him a lesson

I couldn't of put it any better myself. Like I said, as a Chicagoan I'm tired of all the violence that been going on. Don't let your neighbors know that you wanna beat up a 17 yr old. They'll start looking at you funny when you leave the house.

I'm betting her neighbors don't give a fuck that he's 17....or his friends.

Neither do the police who keep 16 in the clip and one in the hole for yourg black juvenile delinquents

What does THAT have to do with her situation.

Cause this same mentality has us attending funerals for our youth that have been shot by police officers
After this situation, I just have to say, you dont know what that teen did to get themselves in that situation.

Ok, you get the boy jumped.....then he come back and have you jumped. That type of mentality is why the People and Folk nation been killing each other for decades
Thanks, I completely forgot about the Folks!
Your a bigger help than what I was gonna give you credit for.


You'll have a major problem if he falls under that 6 point star. I don't know how the Folk govern themselves against one of their own

deee757
05-31-2009, 04:09 AM
Have you ever been to court..do you know how it works? Even if he gets arrested...if he doesn't take a plea (because he knows his main witness is a TS)..then she might have to take the witness stand at some point so that her smart ass attorney will then have an opportunity to try and humiliate her....cause that's how it works.
So we agree, go with plan B then????

Vanessa what were u like as a seventeen year old child

BLKGSXR
05-31-2009, 04:10 AM
Vanessa contact a lawyer...I think your best bet is against the city of Chicago + police force since their job was not completed to the fullest...cut and clean case you were robbed cops agreed on the suspect with many others then changed their minds over a technicality.Just contact a lawyer :>

fred41
05-31-2009, 04:10 AM
Ok Vanessa, you and your adult rational decision making friends should go beat up a seventeen year old child and teach him a lesson about adult hood. Let him know that you are not going to take it anymore and he should feel the wrath of your rage. And when yall are finished wish him the best of luck at becoming a productive citizen in society. Let him know you utilized all your previous life experiences and maturity to teach him a lesson

I couldn't of put it any better myself. Like I said, as a Chicagoan I'm tired of all the violence that been going on. Don't let your neighbors know that you wanna beat up a 17 yr old. They'll start looking at you funny when you leave the house.

I'm betting her neighbors don't give a fuck that he's 17....or his friends.

Neither do the police who keep 16 in the clip and one in the hole for yourg black juvenile delinquents

What does THAT have to do with her situation.

Cause this same mentality has us attending funerals for our youth that have been shot by police officers
After this situation, I just have to say, you dont know what that teen did to get themselves in that situation.

Is like this, I steal your items for material gain (because I am a underprivileged teen) you call the police, the police see a black male who will be a thug for a long time in this society, the police shoot him in the back, hes dead, over your 1500 dollar rent. you can determine the worth from there

It's interesting how you stereotype police...but at the same time are an obvious stereotype of the social worker (by your comments)

jjhill
05-31-2009, 04:11 AM
Vanessa contact a lawyer...I think your best bet is against the city of Chicago + police force since their job was not completed to the fullest...cut and clean case you were robbed cops agreed on the suspect with many others then changed their minds over a technicality.Just contact a lawyer :>


GSXR that's is why all of this is not making sense to me. It's like she wanna whoop the guy ass.

TsVanessa69
05-31-2009, 04:12 AM
[quote:8cb521847d="fred41"][quote:8cb521847d="deee757"][quote:8cb521847d="TsVanessa69"][quote:8cb521847d="TheGuard"]


Is still a child though you have to remember that

Yes, but perhaps a beating like that will make him think twice about a life of crime, avoid jail because of it ..and go on to find the cure for cancer (or the common cold).So in that case...she'd be doing the world a ...well, a world of good. That's a lot of money you lost Vanessa..you do what you think is right.


...but for God's sake... PLEASE burglar proof your windows at least a little bit. :)

He's 17, not 7. I think it's a lil to late for a whooping. I'd set up a cam, get the proof, go to the cops, then they can't deny it.

It's called sarcasm. The cams a good idea...but it isn't going to get her stuff back. The beating might...it's her call.

A beating will get her jail time. It's sad that with all these intelligent minds we have on the forum, the best answer we can come up with is violence. I am Chicagoan, and I'm tired of all the violence that's been going on in general.

Not just violence, violence on a child
Well he wasnt a child when he broke in my house and stole my money. Now it seems like some people on here want to say its ok to be robbed, the theif is now becoming the victim?? Come the fuck on!

I sided with the thief when violence was brought into it. Yea whoop the boy ass! That doesn't bring the money back either. That just makes you an evil person
I can live with that! I been nice, and good for so long, one bad deed wont make or break me. Thats why these kids go from robbing to killing, people like you finding a way to make them out to be the victim.[/quote:8cb521847d]

Let the boy get beating to death and we'll see if one bad deed makes or break you. Let him accidentally fall while getting jumped. It's like your hiring a hitman since we're making assumptions.[/quote:8cb521847d]
Lets see, Chicago, young african american male, already in the system, with 4 complaints filed against him, HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM[/quote:8cb521847d]

Oh yea when this black Chicagoan was 17, I was away at school working on my undergrad.[/quote:8cb521847d]
But this black Chicagoan doesnt even go to school. He spends the days and nights in the streets, excpet when he needs more dope money, then he pics windows in my house to climb in. So if I hid in the ouse one day, and waited for him to come up to a window and poured acid on his face, then we all good right?

deee757
05-31-2009, 04:12 AM
Ok Vanessa, you and your adult rational decision making friends should go beat up a seventeen year old child and teach him a lesson about adult hood. Let him know that you are not going to take it anymore and he should feel the wrath of your rage. And when yall are finished wish him the best of luck at becoming a productive citizen in society. Let him know you utilized all your previous life experiences and maturity to teach him a lesson

I couldn't of put it any better myself. Like I said, as a Chicagoan I'm tired of all the violence that been going on. Don't let your neighbors know that you wanna beat up a 17 yr old. They'll start looking at you funny when you leave the house.

I'm betting her neighbors don't give a fuck that he's 17....or his friends.

Neither do the police who keep 16 in the clip and one in the hole for yourg black juvenile delinquents

What does THAT have to do with her situation.

Cause this same mentality has us attending funerals for our youth that have been shot by police officers
After this situation, I just have to say, you dont know what that teen did to get themselves in that situation.

Is like this, I steal your items for material gain (because I am a underprivileged teen) you call the police, the police see a black male who will be a thug for a long time in this society, the police shoot him in the back, hes dead, over your 1500 dollar rent. you can determine the worth from there

It's interesting how you stereotype police...but at the same time are an obvious stereotype of the social worker (by your comments)

explain more

deee757
05-31-2009, 04:14 AM
Ok Vanessa, you and your adult rational decision making friends should go beat up a seventeen year old child and teach him a lesson about adult hood. Let him know that you are not going to take it anymore and he should feel the wrath of your rage. And when yall are finished wish him the best of luck at becoming a productive citizen in society. Let him know you utilized all your previous life experiences and maturity to teach him a lesson

I couldn't of put it any better myself. Like I said, as a Chicagoan I'm tired of all the violence that been going on. Don't let your neighbors know that you wanna beat up a 17 yr old. They'll start looking at you funny when you leave the house.

I'm betting her neighbors don't give a fuck that he's 17....or his friends.

Neither do the police who keep 16 in the clip and one in the hole for yourg black juvenile delinquents

What does THAT have to do with her situation.

Cause this same mentality has us attending funerals for our youth that have been shot by police officers
After this situation, I just have to say, you dont know what that teen did to get themselves in that situation.

Ok, you get the boy jumped.....then he come back and have you jumped. That type of mentality is why the People and Folk nation been killing each other for decades
Thanks, I completely forgot about the Folks!
Your a bigger help than what I was gonna give you credit for.


You'll have a major problem if he falls under that 6 point star. I don't know how the Folk govern themselves against one of their own

yea JJ, they dont know gang talk, is a whole different animal

jjhill
05-31-2009, 04:16 AM
[quote:332fe7fab5="jjhill"][quote:332fe7fab5="fred41"][quote:332fe7fab5="deee757"][quote:332fe7fab5="TsVanessa69"][quote:332fe7fab5="TheGuard"]


Is still a child though you have to remember that

Yes, but perhaps a beating like that will make him think twice about a life of crime, avoid jail because of it ..and go on to find the cure for cancer (or the common cold).So in that case...she'd be doing the world a ...well, a world of good. That's a lot of money you lost Vanessa..you do what you think is right.


...but for God's sake... PLEASE burglar proof your windows at least a little bit. :)

He's 17, not 7. I think it's a lil to late for a whooping. I'd set up a cam, get the proof, go to the cops, then they can't deny it.

It's called sarcasm. The cams a good idea...but it isn't going to get her stuff back. The beating might...it's her call.

A beating will get her jail time. It's sad that with all these intelligent minds we have on the forum, the best answer we can come up with is violence. I am Chicagoan, and I'm tired of all the violence that's been going on in general.

Not just violence, violence on a child
Well he wasnt a child when he broke in my house and stole my money. Now it seems like some people on here want to say its ok to be robbed, the theif is now becoming the victim?? Come the fuck on!

I sided with the thief when violence was brought into it. Yea whoop the boy ass! That doesn't bring the money back either. That just makes you an evil person
I can live with that! I been nice, and good for so long, one bad deed wont make or break me. Thats why these kids go from robbing to killing, people like you finding a way to make them out to be the victim.[/quote:332fe7fab5]

Let the boy get beating to death and we'll see if one bad deed makes or break you. Let him accidentally fall while getting jumped. It's like your hiring a hitman since we're making assumptions.[/quote:332fe7fab5]
Lets see, Chicago, young african american male, already in the system, with 4 complaints filed against him, HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM[/quote:332fe7fab5]

Oh yea when this black Chicagoan was 17, I was away at school working on my undergrad.[/quote:332fe7fab5]
But this black Chicagoan doesnt even go to school. He spends the days and nights in the streets, excpet when he needs more dope money, then he pics windows in my house to climb in. So if I hid in the ouse one day, and waited for him to come up to a window and poured acid on his face, then we all good right?[/quote:332fe7fab5]

Yup, but it's a difference of beating someone to a pulp and self defense. Just so you know.

jjhill
05-31-2009, 04:17 AM
[quote:aa6fcb96ec="deee757"]Ok Vanessa, you and your adult rational decision making friends should go beat up a seventeen year old child and teach him a lesson about adult hood. Let him know that you are not going to take it anymore and he should feel the wrath of your rage. And when yall are finished wish him the best of luck at becoming a productive citizen in society. Let him know you utilized all your previous life experiences and maturity to teach him a lesson

I couldn't of put it any better myself. Like I said, as a Chicagoan I'm tired of all the violence that been going on. Don't let your neighbors know that you wanna beat up a 17 yr old. They'll start looking at you funny when you leave the house.

I'm betting her neighbors don't give a fuck that he's 17....or his friends.

Neither do the police who keep 16 in the clip and one in the hole for yourg black juvenile delinquents

What does THAT have to do with her situation.

Cause this same mentality has us attending funerals for our youth that have been shot by police officers
After this situation, I just have to say, you dont know what that teen did to get themselves in that situation.

Ok, you get the boy jumped.....then he come back and have you jumped. That type of mentality is why the People and Folk nation been killing each other for decades
Thanks, I completely forgot about the Folks!
Your a bigger help than what I was gonna give you credit for.


You'll have a major problem if he falls under that 6 point star. I don't know how the Folk govern themselves against one of their own

yea JJ, they dont know gang talk, is a whole different animal[/quote:aa6fcb96ec]

yup yup dee

TsVanessa69
05-31-2009, 04:17 AM
Have you ever been to court..do you know how it works? Even if he gets arrested...if he doesn't take a plea (because he knows his main witness is a TS)..then she might have to take the witness stand at some point so that her smart ass attorney will then have an opportunity to try and humiliate her....cause that's how it works.
So we agree, go with plan B then????

Vanessa what were u like as a seventeen year old child
I was in school and worked in an antique store, where I played in dresses and took some home where I lyp synched to Anita Baker, Madonna and Whitney Houston. At 17 I was praying that some fairy god mother would stop people from picking on me and calling me a faggot. At 17 I wished my mother loved me more instead of being ashamed of me and keeping me locked in the house. At 17 I wished my sister would stop stealing money out of my mothers purse and blaming me for it. Now at 37 I work hard and am getting degrees and certifications to become somebody who can make shure other 17 year old girls in my situation wont have to go through the hell I went through for being born different.

2009AD
05-31-2009, 04:18 AM
personally I would be waiting in the hallway with a tire iron for the mother fucker, you need to show him you are not the one to be messed with.


or have a trick who lives for you wear him the fuck out

Yea, real smart, escalate the situation with physical violence. :roll:
it would be more stupid to be a pussy about it like you scared of confrontation. oh well i guess it should be expected from a dude that worships feet.

You must be one of those morons who loves to settle disputes with his fists, then gets his ass kicked and ends up behind bars.

jjhill
05-31-2009, 04:19 AM
Have you ever been to court..do you know how it works? Even if he gets arrested...if he doesn't take a plea (because he knows his main witness is a TS)..then she might have to take the witness stand at some point so that her smart ass attorney will then have an opportunity to try and humiliate her....cause that's how it works.
So we agree, go with plan B then????

Vanessa what were u like as a seventeen year old child
I was in school and worked in an antique store, where I played in dresses and took some home where I lyp synched to Anita Baker, Madonna and Whitney Houston. At 17 I was praying that some fairy god mother would stop people from picking on me and calling me a faggot. At 17 I wished my mother loved me more instead of being ashamed of me and keeping me locked in the house. At 17 I wished my sister would stop stealing money out of my mothers purse and blaming me for it. Now at 37 I work hard and am getting degrees and certifications tobecome somebody who can make shure other 17 year old girls in my situation wont have to go through the hell I went through for being born different.

If you hated being called that term, then why did you use it on the boys father? And later say you hate faggots?

LilWyte
05-31-2009, 04:20 AM
thread starter is handling the situation way better then i would have by not even doin anything yet... if i found out someone was in my house without me knowing THREE DIFFERENT OCCASIONS and ontop of that they stole all that shit worth all of that $$...and the cops werent doin nothing... i wouldnt even be able to sit here n type i'd be so mad....i'd beat him like his gay ass dad shoulda beat him in the first place....

TsVanessa69
05-31-2009, 04:21 AM
Vanessa contact a lawyer...I think your best bet is against the city of Chicago + police force since their job was not completed to the fullest...cut and clean case you were robbed cops agreed on the suspect with many others then changed their minds over a technicality.Just contact a lawyer :>


GSXR that's is why all of this is not making sense to me. It's like she wanna whoop the guy ass.
You daymn right, I wanna see blood and pain!
How dare some bastard ass come into my home and steal what I worked hard for. How dare he walk around like nothing happened. How dare he think that robbing people trans or not is the right thing to do. So yea, for a moment stop covering for him because you are the same race, stop and see how the fuck I feel, how I've been violated.

deee757
05-31-2009, 04:21 AM
Have you ever been to court..do you know how it works? Even if he gets arrested...if he doesn't take a plea (because he knows his main witness is a TS)..then she might have to take the witness stand at some point so that her smart ass attorney will then have an opportunity to try and humiliate her....cause that's how it works.
So we agree, go with plan B then????

Vanessa what were u like as a seventeen year old child
I was in school and worked in an antique store, where I played in dresses and took some home where I lyp synched to Anita Baker, Madonna and Whitney Houston. At 17 I was praying that some fairy god mother would stop people from picking on me and calling me a faggot. At 17 I wished my mother loved me more instead of being ashamed of me and keeping me locked in the house. At 17 I wished my sister would stop stealing money out of my mothers purse and blaming me for it. Now at 37 I work hard and am getting degrees and certifications to become somebody who can make shure other 17 year old girls in my situation wont have to go through the hell I went through for being born different.

Do you think you or your sister (since you were being blamed for it) deserved a beating by an adult mob? cause wee still don't know this juvenile did it for certain

fred41
05-31-2009, 04:22 AM
Have you ever been to court..do you know how it works? Even if he gets arrested...if he doesn't take a plea (because he knows his main witness is a TS)..then she might have to take the witness stand at some point so that her smart ass attorney will then have an opportunity to try and humiliate her....cause that's how it works.
So we agree, go with plan B then????

You do what you think is right..it's your stuff. I understand no matter which way you go on this.Just cover yourself. Like it was previously stated..you probably shouldn't have said anything public about it first. Make your decision though after calming down and getting away from this site..NEVER make a decision like this when angry...but I completely understand if you have to have this asshole threatened and/or hurt...just..please..cover yourself.

If you go the law enforcement route..I understand that too...but I also understand that the scales of justice are sometimes slightly tilted against you.and it won't be easy.

There is no right answer and I'm sorry that little assholes like this exist to make your life miserable..especially when things were going so well for you.
Good luck with whatever YOU choose to do.

LilWyte
05-31-2009, 04:22 AM
personally I would be waiting in the hallway with a tire iron for the mother fucker, you need to show him you are not the one to be messed with.


or have a trick who lives for you wear him the fuck out

Yea, real smart, escalate the situation with physical violence. :roll:
it would be more stupid to be a pussy about it like you scared of confrontation. oh well i guess it should be expected from a dude that worships feet.

You must be one of those morons who loves to settle disputes with his fists, then gets his ass kicked and ends up behind bars.
you must be one of those pussies that runs his mouth and gets beat up and presses charges cuz you're not man enough to back up your words/actions

and kisses feet

Ryz
05-31-2009, 04:24 AM
thread starter is handling the situation way better then i would have by not even doin anything yet... if i found out someone was in my house without me knowing THREE DIFFERENT OCCASIONS and ontop of that they stole all that shit worth all of that $$...and the cops werent doin nothing... i wouldnt even be able to sit here n type i'd be so mad....i'd beat him like his gay ass dad shoulda beat him in the first place....
Real talk, I would have done the same thing. If someone stole my bike and took it for a ride in the neighborhood I lived in, I would go off.

jjhill
05-31-2009, 04:25 AM
Vanessa contact a lawyer...I think your best bet is against the city of Chicago + police force since their job was not completed to the fullest...cut and clean case you were robbed cops agreed on the suspect with many others then changed their minds over a technicality.Just contact a lawyer :>


GSXR that's is why all of this is not making sense to me. It's like she wanna whoop the guy ass.
You daymn right, I wanna see blood and pain!
How dare some bastard ass come into my home and steal what I worked hard for. How dare he walk around like nothing happened. How dare he think that robbing people trans or not is the right thing to do. So yea, for a moment stop covering for him because you are the same race, stop and see how the fuck I feel, how I've been violated.

Ooooo the race card. I guarantee if it was one of those Puerto Rican guys from Humboldt Park, you wouldn't be feeling the same way. Speaking of which why don't you live in Humboldt Park? Also I bet when they boy and his father moved in you was probably out there with some of your neighbors saying "there goes the neighborhood" I think it's wrong to beat up a child no matter what his color is Vanessa

2009AD
05-31-2009, 04:27 AM
personally I would be waiting in the hallway with a tire iron for the mother fucker, you need to show him you are not the one to be messed with.


or have a trick who lives for you wear him the fuck out

Yea, real smart, escalate the situation with physical violence. :roll:
it would be more stupid to be a pussy about it like you scared of confrontation. oh well i guess it should be expected from a dude that worships feet.

You must be one of those morons who loves to settle disputes with his fists, then gets his ass kicked and ends up behind bars.
you must be one of those pussies that runs his mouth and gets beat up and presses charges cuz you're not man enough to back up your words/actions

and kisses feet

Yea, you really are a moron. Thanks for proving my point.

TsVanessa69
05-31-2009, 04:28 AM
thread starter is handling the situation way better then i would have by not even doin anything yet... if i found out someone was in my house without me knowing THREE DIFFERENT OCCASIONS and ontop of that they stole all that shit worth all of that $$...and the cops werent doin nothing... i wouldnt even be able to sit here n type i'd be so mad....i'd beat him like his gay ass dad shoulda beat him in the first place....
Some people on here will twist this and make him to be the victim because they need to save face. Thats why jails and cemetarys are full now.
I'm 37 years old. I never had an easy day in my life. Just walking out my door and going to work, I am a moving target who can be killed for living my life as who I am. I have prostituted, walked streets, been publicly humiliated, taken peoples shit for too long. I never have stolen what people work hard for. Ive never broken into somebodys house, or went in somebodys purse to steal, some things you just dont do. I'd rather turn a $10 trick to eat and yes, I've even shoplifted, but I have NEVER in my life stolen from somebodys wallet, purse, home or job. I'm at my wits end over this. I had to go to work today and work with my girls because my pageant is next week, and some of the money stolen was to go towards buys what was needed to decorate the hall for the event. We didnt get many sponsors for our event, so I personally am paying for the event. This shit hurts me so bad

LilWyte
05-31-2009, 04:29 AM
thread starter is handling the situation way better then i would have by not even doin anything yet... if i found out someone was in my house without me knowing THREE DIFFERENT OCCASIONS and ontop of that they stole all that shit worth all of that $$...and the cops werent doin nothing... i wouldnt even be able to sit here n type i'd be so mad....i'd beat him like his gay ass dad shoulda beat him in the first place....
Real talk, I would have done the same thing. If someone stole my bike and took it for a ride in the neighborhood I lived in, I would go off.
yeah that too i forgot about the bike that makes it even worse

and 17 isnt that young definitely not a "child" like people in this thread are sayin...if you're old enough to break in my house THREE DIFF TIMES, steal all that shit, steal my bike and ride it down my street, then ur old enough to get fucked up for it

jjhill
05-31-2009, 04:30 AM
What exactly is your definition of "saving face"

TsVanessa69
05-31-2009, 04:32 AM
Vanessa contact a lawyer...I think your best bet is against the city of Chicago + police force since their job was not completed to the fullest...cut and clean case you were robbed cops agreed on the suspect with many others then changed their minds over a technicality.Just contact a lawyer :>


GSXR that's is why all of this is not making sense to me. It's like she wanna whoop the guy ass.
You daymn right, I wanna see blood and pain!
How dare some bastard ass come into my home and steal what I worked hard for. How dare he walk around like nothing happened. How dare he think that robbing people trans or not is the right thing to do. So yea, for a moment stop covering for him because you are the same race, stop and see how the fuck I feel, how I've been violated.

Ooooo the race card. I guarantee if it was one of those Puerto Rican guys from Humboldt Park, you wouldn't be feeling the same way. Speaking of which why don't you live in Humboldt Park? Also I bet when they boy and his father moved in you was probably out there with some of your neighbors saying "there goes the neighborhood" I think it's wrong to beat up a child no matter what his color is Vanessa
I dont give a fuck who the fuck it was, I would feel the same way, you must not read all that well, we covered that topic a few pages back.
I wouldnt live in Humbolt Park or any other neighborhood where I felt bullshit would happen. Maybe if you would read everything and not just what you want to read then you would have seen I already cleared that up a few pages ago!

fred41
05-31-2009, 04:32 AM
Ok Vanessa, you and your adult rational decision making friends should go beat up a seventeen year old child and teach him a lesson about adult hood. Let him know that you are not going to take it anymore and he should feel the wrath of your rage. And when yall are finished wish him the best of luck at becoming a productive citizen in society. Let him know you utilized all your previous life experiences and maturity to teach him a lesson

I couldn't of put it any better myself. Like I said, as a Chicagoan I'm tired of all the violence that been going on. Don't let your neighbors know that you wanna beat up a 17 yr old. They'll start looking at you funny when you leave the house.

I'm betting her neighbors don't give a fuck that he's 17....or his friends.

Neither do the police who keep 16 in the clip and one in the hole for yourg black juvenile delinquents

What does THAT have to do with her situation.

Cause this same mentality has us attending funerals for our youth that have been shot by police officers
After this situation, I just have to say, you dont know what that teen did to get themselves in that situation.

Is like this, I steal your items for material gain (because I am a underprivileged teen) you call the police, the police see a black male who will be a thug for a long time in this society, the police shoot him in the back, hes dead, over your 1500 dollar rent. you can determine the worth from there

It's interesting how you stereotype police...but at the same time are an obvious stereotype of the social worker (by your comments)

explain more

I don't have to explain...your bleeding heart, cry me a river, all cops are youth killing facsist, liberal college educated qoutes do the explaining for me.

russtafa
05-31-2009, 04:34 AM
guys are going to war at 17 so the little shit should get whats comeing to him

jjhill
05-31-2009, 04:35 AM
Vanessa contact a lawyer...I think your best bet is against the city of Chicago + police force since their job was not completed to the fullest...cut and clean case you were robbed cops agreed on the suspect with many others then changed their minds over a technicality.Just contact a lawyer :>


GSXR that's is why all of this is not making sense to me. It's like she wanna whoop the guy ass.
You daymn right, I wanna see blood and pain!
How dare some bastard ass come into my home and steal what I worked hard for. How dare he walk around like nothing happened. How dare he think that robbing people trans or not is the right thing to do. So yea, for a moment stop covering for him because you are the same race, stop and see how the fuck I feel, how I've been violated.

Ooooo the race card. I guarantee if it was one of those Puerto Rican guys from Humboldt Park, you wouldn't be feeling the same way. Speaking of which why don't you live in Humboldt Park? Also I bet when they boy and his father moved in you was probably out there with some of your neighbors saying "there goes the neighborhood" I think it's wrong to beat up a child no matter what his color is Vanessa
I dont give a fuck who the fuck it was, I would feel the same way, you must not read all that well, we covered that topic a few pages back.
I wouldnt live in Humbolt Park or any other neighborhood where I felt bullshit would happen. Maybe if you would read everything and not just what you want to read then you would have seen I already cleared that up a few pages ago!

Reading never been a problem for me, bullshit has! I've seen in other threads where you said your own people (Puerto Ricans) treat you like a queen. That's why I was wondering why you don't live with them and Humboldt Park? You don't feel safe with your own people? I brought race into this after you did. Since you think I'm defending the guy because he's black. Remember you gagged over the fact that he was black. w/e that mean

TsVanessa69
05-31-2009, 04:36 AM
Vanessa contact a lawyer...I think your best bet is against the city of Chicago + police force since their job was not completed to the fullest...cut and clean case you were robbed cops agreed on the suspect with many others then changed their minds over a technicality.Just contact a lawyer :>


GSXR that's is why all of this is not making sense to me. It's like she wanna whoop the guy ass.
You daymn right, I wanna see blood and pain!
How dare some bastard ass come into my home and steal what I worked hard for. How dare he walk around like nothing happened. How dare he think that robbing people trans or not is the right thing to do. So yea, for a moment stop covering for him because you are the same race, stop and see how the fuck I feel, how I've been violated.

Ooooo the race card. I guarantee if it was one of those Puerto Rican guys from Humboldt Park, you wouldn't be feeling the same way. Speaking of which why don't you live in Humboldt Park? Also I bet when they boy and his father moved in you was probably out there with some of your neighbors saying "there goes the neighborhood" I think it's wrong to beat up a child no matter what his color is Vanessa
You dont know shit about me, and when they moved in I didnt give a fuck, I'm in my house making my money, and doing shows and working in the community. Its ok for a child to steal, but its not ok for him to get his ass beat. If at that age, some shit like that was brought to my fathers attention, my ass would have gotten whooped till every penny stole fell out of my ass! Thats the problem, noyt enough asses are getting whooped and people keep doin shit until they do it to the right bitch, then its lights out!

jjhill
05-31-2009, 04:38 AM
Vanessa contact a lawyer...I think your best bet is against the city of Chicago + police force since their job was not completed to the fullest...cut and clean case you were robbed cops agreed on the suspect with many others then changed their minds over a technicality.Just contact a lawyer :>


GSXR that's is why all of this is not making sense to me. It's like she wanna whoop the guy ass.
You daymn right, I wanna see blood and pain!
How dare some bastard ass come into my home and steal what I worked hard for. How dare he walk around like nothing happened. How dare he think that robbing people trans or not is the right thing to do. So yea, for a moment stop covering for him because you are the same race, stop and see how the fuck I feel, how I've been violated.

Ooooo the race card. I guarantee if it was one of those Puerto Rican guys from Humboldt Park, you wouldn't be feeling the same way. Speaking of which why don't you live in Humboldt Park? Also I bet when they boy and his father moved in you was probably out there with some of your neighbors saying "there goes the neighborhood" I think it's wrong to beat up a child no matter what his color is Vanessa
You dont know shit about me, and when they moved in I didnt give a fuck, I'm in my house making my money, and doing shows and working in the community. Its ok for a child to steal, but its not ok for him to get his ass beat. If at that age, some shit like that was brought to my fathers attention, my ass would have gotten whooped till every penny stole fell out of my ass! Thats the problem, noyt enough asses are getting whooped and people keep doin shit until they do it to the right bitch, then its lights out!

I wasn't being serious by the way with the statement of you and your neighbors. I was saying that to make a point about how ridiculous it is for you to think I'm defending him because he black. I also said he should of got "whooped" not beat way before 17. 17 a little to late, he might be able to whoop his father ass now.

giovanni_hotel
05-31-2009, 04:38 AM
Yall are crazy coming down on Vanessa!!

Newsflash - some Black males, as much as it pains me to say, belong in JAIL, and deserve to have their asses KICKED.

This 'kid' is not some hardship case that needs to be shown the right way to go in life, and it sure as hell isn't Vanessa's responsibility.

I would hate to see her get herself in some kind of legal jeopardy, but if that shit happened to me, and I was 90% sure he stole my gear, I would have knocked on their door, entered their apartment and gone straight to the kid's room and turned it upside down.

If I saw some kid riding my bike that he STOLE, I would have knocked him off the bike, made sure he wasn't strapped, then took my bike back home with me.

Unfortunately, I'm way bigger and stronger than Vanessa and I suspect her options are limited.

This kid is a thug in training, and if there was some way to confront him, scare the shit out of him and let him know what's up, at least she might find some resolution.

Man, I can't tell you how mad I would be if that BS went down in my crib and I knew the punk ass kid who was responsible.

Vanessa, did you report it to the police that the boy's foster dad admitted he believed his son committe dthe crime?

Shouldn't he be answering questions from a cop about the robbery?

Doesn't that make the kid's stepdad an accessory?

BTW, by the mere existence of this thread, you can't really do anything too rough to him, IMO, but that doesn't mean someone couldn't randomly punch the busta in his dome a couple times!

For real, I feel for Vanessa, and he's lucky she wasn't home when he boosted her apartment, because he could have been easily shot and have it charged as justifiable homicide.

jjhill
05-31-2009, 04:41 AM
Yall are crazy coming down on Vanessa!!

Newsflash - some Black males, as much as it pains me to say, belong in JAIL, and deserve to have their asses KICKED.

This 'kid' is not some hardship case that needs to be shown the right way to go in life, and it sure as hell isn't Vanessa's responsibility.

I would hate to see her get herself in some kind of legal jeopardy, but if that shit happened to me, and I was 90% sure he stole my gear, I would have knocked on their door, entered their apartment and gone straight to the kid's room and turned it upside down.

If I saw some kid riding my bike that he STOLE, I would have knocked him off the bike, made sure he wasn't strapped, then took my bike back home with me.

Unfortunately, I'm way bigger and stronger than Vanessa and I suspect her options are limited.

This kid is a thug in training, and if there was some way to confront him, scare the shit out of him and let him know what's up, at least she might find some resolution.

Man, I can't tell you how mad I would be if that BS went down in my crib and I knew the punk ass kid who was responsible.

Vanessa, did you report it to the police that the boy's foster dad admitted he believed his son committe dthe crime?

Shouldn't he be answering questions from a cop about the robbery?

Doesn't that make the kid's stepdad an accessory?

BTW, by the mere existence of this thread, you can't really do anything too rough to him, IMO, but that doesn't mean someone couldn't randomly punch the busta in his dome a couple times!

For real, I feel for Vanessa, and he's lucky she wasn't home when he boosted her apartment, because he could have been easily shot and have it charged as justifiable homicide.

I agree he belongs in jail. I don't believe he should get his ass whooped in the streets.

LilWyte
05-31-2009, 04:41 AM
personally I would be waiting in the hallway with a tire iron for the mother fucker, you need to show him you are not the one to be messed with.


or have a trick who lives for you wear him the fuck out

Yea, real smart, escalate the situation with physical violence. :roll:
it would be more stupid to be a pussy about it like you scared of confrontation. oh well i guess it should be expected from a dude that worships feet.

You must be one of those morons who loves to settle disputes with his fists, then gets his ass kicked and ends up behind bars.
you must be one of those pussies that runs his mouth and gets beat up and presses charges cuz you're not man enough to back up your words/actions

and kisses feet

Yea, you really are a moron. Thanks for proving my point.
aw :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: pussy

TsVanessa69
05-31-2009, 04:41 AM
[quote=BLKGSXR]
You daymn right, I wanna see blood and pain!
How dare some bastard ass come into my home and steal what I worked hard for. How dare he walk around like nothing happened. How dare he think that robbing people trans or not is the right thing to do. So yea, for a moment stop covering for him because you are the same race, stop and see how the fuck I feel, how I've been violated.

Ooooo the race card. I guarantee if it was one of those Puerto Rican guys from Humboldt Park, you wouldn't be feeling the same way. Speaking of which why don't you live in Humboldt Park? Also I bet when they boy and his father moved in you was probably out there with some of your neighbors saying "there goes the neighborhood" I think it's wrong to beat up a child no matter what his color is Vanessa
I dont give a fuck who the fuck it was, I would feel the same way, you must not read all that well, we covered that topic a few pages back.
I wouldnt live in Humbolt Park or any other neighborhood where I felt bullshit would happen. Maybe if you would read everything and not just what you want to read then you would have seen I already cleared that up a few pages ago!

Reading never been a problem for me, bullshit has! I've seen in other threads where you said your own people (Puerto Ricans) treat you like a queen. That's why I was wondering why you don't live with them and Humboldt Park? You don't feel safe with your own people? I brought race into this after you did. Since you think I'm defending the guy because he's black. Remember you gagged over the fact that he was black. w/e that mean
I already covered that in this same thread, go back and read! I also said I wouldnt live in HUmbolt Part or any area of its kind. I like living in a mostly white neighborhood, and now that I can afford that, I'm going to keep living in white neighborhoods. And I also posted the reasons why! And I'm not ashamed to say I love white neighborhoods, even in my job when they ask me to move in the neighborhood I tell them the exact same thing! Sorry I dont sugar coat things, I tell it how I see it.

jjhill
05-31-2009, 04:43 AM
[quote=BLKGSXR]
You daymn right, I wanna see blood and pain!
How dare some bastard ass come into my home and steal what I worked hard for. How dare he walk around like nothing happened. How dare he think that robbing people trans or not is the right thing to do. So yea, for a moment stop covering for him because you are the same race, stop and see how the fuck I feel, how I've been violated.

Ooooo the race card. I guarantee if it was one of those Puerto Rican guys from Humboldt Park, you wouldn't be feeling the same way. Speaking of which why don't you live in Humboldt Park? Also I bet when they boy and his father moved in you was probably out there with some of your neighbors saying "there goes the neighborhood" I think it's wrong to beat up a child no matter what his color is Vanessa
I dont give a fuck who the fuck it was, I would feel the same way, you must not read all that well, we covered that topic a few pages back.
I wouldnt live in Humbolt Park or any other neighborhood where I felt bullshit would happen. Maybe if you would read everything and not just what you want to read then you would have seen I already cleared that up a few pages ago!

Reading never been a problem for me, bullshit has! I've seen in other threads where you said your own people (Puerto Ricans) treat you like a queen. That's why I was wondering why you don't live with them and Humboldt Park? You don't feel safe with your own people? I brought race into this after you did. Since you think I'm defending the guy because he's black. Remember you gagged over the fact that he was black. w/e that mean
I already covered that in this same thread, go back and read! I also said I wouldnt live in HUmbolt Part or any area of its kind. I like living in a mostly white neighborhood, and now that I can afford that, I'm going to keep living in white neighborhoods. And I also posted the reasons why! And I'm not ashamed to say I love white neighborhoods, even in my job when they ask me to move in the neighborhood I tell them the exact same thing! Sorry I dont sugar coat things, I tell it how I see it.

I think your mixing up race and social class again. Cuz it's some white neighborhoods in Illinois that I'm pretty sure you wouldn't even wanna drive threw. And no, not for the fact that your transgendered. Your skin color.

BLKGSXR
05-31-2009, 04:43 AM
Vanessa contact a lawyer...I think your best bet is against the city of Chicago + police force since their job was not completed to the fullest...cut and clean case you were robbed cops agreed on the suspect with many others then changed their minds over a technicality.Just contact a lawyer :>


GSXR that's is why all of this is not making sense to me. It's like she wanna whoop the guy ass.
You daymn right, I wanna see blood and pain!
How dare some bastard ass come into my home and steal what I worked hard for. How dare he walk around like nothing happened. How dare he think that robbing people trans or not is the right thing to do. So yea, for a moment stop covering for him because you are the same race, stop and see how the fuck I feel, how I've been violated.

Ooooo the race card. I guarantee if it was one of those Puerto Rican guys from Humboldt Park, you wouldn't be feeling the same way. Speaking of which why don't you live in Humboldt Park? Also I bet when they boy and his father moved in you was probably out there with some of your neighbors saying "there goes the neighborhood" I think it's wrong to beat up a child no matter what his color is Vanessa
You dont know shit about me, and when they moved in I didnt give a fuck, I'm in my house making my money, and doing shows and working in the community. Its ok for a child to steal, but its not ok for him to get his ass beat. If at that age, some shit like that was brought to my fathers attention, my ass would have gotten whooped till every penny stole fell out of my ass! Thats the problem, noyt enough asses are getting whooped and people keep doin shit until they do it to the right bitch, then its lights out! Vanessa im going to try to keep it as nice as I can...You act like your the only person to have ever been robbed...Its a thing that happens,thats why my home has security cameras looking over going to a DVR-...Attic no one looks there lol...Other than that contact a lawyer or if you choose to commit assault there something called Premeditated assault which is more severe than just assault..You planned to hurt someone. To be honest I grew up in one of the shittest areas of CA way tougher than anywhere in Illinois, im just saying this because your intensity about wanting blood and pain just reminds me of the foolish kids who kill to be in gangs and is that right No,the reason government agencies such as PD were created.....Redemption good movie watch it-True story....

TsVanessa69
05-31-2009, 04:46 AM
Yall are crazy coming down on Vanessa!!

Newsflash - some Black males, as much as it pains me to say, belong in JAIL, and deserve to have their asses KICKED.

This 'kid' is not some hardship case that needs to be shown the right way to go in life, and it sure as hell isn't Vanessa's responsibility.

I would hate to see her get herself in some kind of legal jeopardy, but if that shit happened to me, and I was 90% sure he stole my gear, I would have knocked on their door, entered their apartment and gone straight to the kid's room and turned it upside down.

If I saw some kid riding my bike that he STOLE, I would have knocked him off the bike, made sure he wasn't strapped, then took my bike back home with me.

Unfortunately, I'm way bigger and stronger than Vanessa and I suspect her options are limited.

This kid is a thug in training, and if there was some way to confront him, scare the shit out of him and let him know what's up, at least she might find some resolution.

Man, I can't tell you how mad I would be if that BS went down in my crib and I knew the punk ass kid who was responsible.

Vanessa, did you report it to the police that the boy's foster dad admitted he believed his son committe dthe crime?

Shouldn't he be answering questions from a cop about the robbery?

Doesn't that make the kid's stepdad an accessory?

BTW, by the mere existence of this thread, you can't really do anything too rough to him, IMO, but that doesn't mean someone couldn't randomly punch the busta in his dome a couple times!

For real, I feel for Vanessa, and he's lucky she wasn't home when he boosted her apartment, because he could have been easily shot and have it charged as justifiable homicide.
The father didnt open the door for the cops, but he did admit to me that the kid should be dealt with by the police, and he was ALREADY in the system. Now if your own daddy snitches on you, thats some fukked up shit! And on top of that, a week after the first break in, he ask me had I heard back from the cops. Seems more like the foster father wants the kid gone and is hoping the police is gonna take him off his hands.

jjhill
05-31-2009, 04:48 AM
Vanessa I'm sorry,( I might lose "friends" for this) but if you do get the boy jumped and brag about it on here. I'll feel obliged to snitch my damn self, and you can send your goons after me. I'll give you my addresses.

giovanni_hotel
05-31-2009, 04:50 AM
It's fucked up the cops never even knocked on his door and interviewed the fosteer dad.

Is there someone in charge of the investigation and can't the PD at least send someone over to interview the kid/father?

Who knows, the foster dad might dime out his own kid with a cop in front of him asking questions LOL!!

BLKGSXR
05-31-2009, 04:50 AM
Vanessa I'm sorry,( I might lose "friends" for this) but if you do get the boy jumped and brag about it on here. I'll feel obliged to snitch my damn self, and you can send your goons after me. I'll give you my addresses.I authenticate and Co-sign this...I mean it childish to brag about thing unless its like super duper Uber cool like Power rangers in 93 lol :P

giovanni dont make me add you to the list of dumbest HA posters...we live in the USA there are rules here

jjhill
05-31-2009, 04:50 AM
It's fucked up the cops never even knocked on his door and interviewed the fosteer dad.

Is there someone in charge of the investigation and can't the PD at least send someone over to interview the kid/father?

Who knows, the foster dad might dime out his own kid with a cop in front of him asking questions LOL!!

That's what I'm saying Gio, and this is the CPD we're talking about here.

TsVanessa69
05-31-2009, 04:51 AM
[quote=BLKGSXR]
You daymn right, I wanna see blood and pain!
How dare some bastard ass come into my home and steal what I worked hard for. How dare he walk around like nothing happened. How dare he think that robbing people trans or not is the right thing to do. So yea, for a moment stop covering for him because you are the same race, stop and see how the fuck I feel, how I've been violated.

Ooooo the race card. I guarantee if it was one of those Puerto Rican guys from Humboldt Park, you wouldn't be feeling the same way. Speaking of which why don't you live in Humboldt Park? Also I bet when they boy and his father moved in you was probably out there with some of your neighbors saying "there goes the neighborhood" I think it's wrong to beat up a child no matter what his color is Vanessa
I dont give a fuck who the fuck it was, I would feel the same way, you must not read all that well, we covered that topic a few pages back.
I wouldnt live in Humbolt Park or any other neighborhood where I felt bullshit would happen. Maybe if you would read everything and not just what you want to read then you would have seen I already cleared that up a few pages ago!

Reading never been a problem for me, bullshit has! I've seen in other threads where you said your own people (Puerto Ricans) treat you like a queen. That's why I was wondering why you don't live with them and Humboldt Park? You don't feel safe with your own people? I brought race into this after you did. Since you think I'm defending the guy because he's black. Remember you gagged over the fact that he was black. w/e that mean
I already covered that in this same thread, go back and read! I also said I wouldnt live in HUmbolt Part or any area of its kind. I like living in a mostly white neighborhood, and now that I can afford that, I'm going to keep living in white neighborhoods. And I also posted the reasons why! And I'm not ashamed to say I love white neighborhoods, even in my job when they ask me to move in the neighborhood I tell them the exact same thing! Sorry I dont sugar coat things, I tell it how I see it.

I think your mixing up race and social class again. Cuz it's some white neighborhoods in Illinois that I'm pretty sure you wouldn't even wanna drive threw. And no, not for the fact that your transgendered. Your skin color.
Thats why I have a clean record, and a good credit score. I can afford to live in areas that dont have to deal with this type of bullshit. Just this one time somebody fucked up and let the riff raff in. But once its gone, we are back to normal. If they were white, mexican, italian, polish I feel the same Riff raff somehow slipped thru but trust and beleive the whole block is on alert and legal council at my job is going to show my landlord the way to get them OUT!

giovanni_hotel
05-31-2009, 04:51 AM
Vanessa I'm sorry,( I might lose "friends" for this) but if you do get the boy jumped and brag about it on here. I'll feel obliged to snitch my damn self, and you can send your goons after me. I'll give you my addresses.

How would you even know who the kid was to snitch to the PD on Vanessa?? :roll:

2009AD
05-31-2009, 04:52 AM
You must be one of those morons who loves to settle disputes with his fists, then gets his ass kicked and ends up behind bars.
you must be one of those pussies that runs his mouth and gets beat up and presses charges cuz you're not man enough to back up your words/actions

and kisses feet

Yea, you really are a moron. Thanks for proving my point.[/quote]

aw :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: pussy

Yea, and you're the Dirty Harry of the internet. What a "tough" guy you must be.

jjhill
05-31-2009, 04:53 AM
Vanessa I'm sorry,( I might lose "friends" for this) but if you do get the boy jumped and brag about it on here. I'll feel obliged to snitch my damn self, and you can send your goons after me. I'll give you my addresses.

How would you even know who the kid was to snitch to the PD on Vanessa?? :roll:

It's very simple my friend. Very simple.

TsVanessa69
05-31-2009, 04:53 AM
Vanessa I'm sorry,( I might lose "friends" for this) but if you do get the boy jumped and brag about it on here. I'll feel obliged to snitch my damn self, and you can send your goons after me. I'll give you my addresses.
SNITCH AWAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!

jjhill
05-31-2009, 04:54 AM
Vanessa I'm sorry,( I might lose "friends" for this) but if you do get the boy jumped and brag about it on here. I'll feel obliged to snitch my damn self, and you can send your goons after me. I'll give you my addresses.
SNITCH AWAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!

WILL DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!

TsVanessa69
05-31-2009, 04:56 AM
Vanessa I'm sorry,( I might lose "friends" for this) but if you do get the boy jumped and brag about it on here. I'll feel obliged to snitch my damn self, and you can send your goons after me. I'll give you my addresses.

How would you even know who the kid was to snitch to the PD on Vanessa?? :roll:
Thank you! And how do you know when and where?
All you know is its a 17 year old black male in the city of Chicago with a previous record.
I mean there are only about 3 or 4 of those here in Chicago right???????
Only on HA would a crook be made into a victim!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

TsVanessa69
05-31-2009, 04:58 AM
Vanessa I'm sorry,( I might lose "friends" for this) but if you do get the boy jumped and brag about it on here. I'll feel obliged to snitch my damn self, and you can send your goons after me. I'll give you my addresses.I authenticate and Co-sign this...I mean it childish to brag about thing unless its like super duper Uber cool like Power rangers in 93 lol :P

giovanni dont make me add you to the list of dumbest HA posters...we live in the USA there are rules here
Snitch away!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I mean you guys must have been in his shoes plenty of times!

jjhill
05-31-2009, 04:58 AM
Vanessa I'm sorry,( I might lose "friends" for this) but if you do get the boy jumped and brag about it on here. I'll feel obliged to snitch my damn self, and you can send your goons after me. I'll give you my addresses.

How would you even know who the kid was to snitch to the PD on Vanessa?? :roll:
Thank you! And how do you know when and where?
All you know is its a 17 year old black male in the city of Chicago with a previous record.
I mean there are only about 3 or 4 of those here in Chicago right???????
Only on HA would a crook be made into a victim!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Maybe the cops realize you made all that money illegally and bought all those items with illegal money and felt justice was served. If you read earlier. I was with you until violence was brought into this. They're probably thinking a transgendered puerto rican and a black male. Who cares... your not white like the rest of your neighbors.

LilWyte
05-31-2009, 04:58 AM
You must be one of those morons who loves to settle disputes with his fists, then gets his ass kicked and ends up behind bars.
you must be one of those pussies that runs his mouth and gets beat up and presses charges cuz you're not man enough to back up your words/actions

and kisses feet

Yea, you really are a moron. Thanks for proving my point.

aw :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: pussy

Yea, and you're the Dirty Harry of the internet. What a "tough" guy you must be.[/quote]
lol it doesnt take dirty harry to go after someone when they break into your house three times, steal ur shit, then show it off right in front of you on your street. you must be even more of a pussy than i thought if you wouldnt stand up for yourself when the police couldnt do anything and just let yourself continue to be victimized yet again (which would be #4)

TsVanessa69
05-31-2009, 05:01 AM
It's fucked up the cops never even knocked on his door and interviewed the fosteer dad.

Is there someone in charge of the investigation and can't the PD at least send someone over to interview the kid/father?

Who knows, the foster dad might dime out his own kid with a cop in front of him asking questions LOL!!
They did. 5 minutes after my landlord told him we had the police on the way, the police went upstairs and knocked, the father didnt open the door.

TsVanessa69
05-31-2009, 05:02 AM
You must be one of those morons who loves to settle disputes with his fists, then gets his ass kicked and ends up behind bars.
you must be one of those pussies that runs his mouth and gets beat up and presses charges cuz you're not man enough to back up your words/actions

and kisses feet

Yea, you really are a moron. Thanks for proving my point.

aw :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: pussy

Yea, and you're the Dirty Harry of the internet. What a "tough" guy you must be.
lol it doesnt take dirty harry to go after someone when they break into your house three times, steal ur shit, then show it off right in front of you on your street. you must be even more of a pussy than i thought if you wouldnt stand up for yourself when the police couldnt do anything and just let yourself continue to be victimized yet again (which would be #4)[/quote]
Oh trust and believe, this is the last time!

giovanni_hotel
05-31-2009, 05:05 AM
Yall have got this all flipped, seriously!!

Imagine being robbed by someone, not once, which is bad enough, but multiple times and you knew who it was?

I mean, even my mother has a crow bar she keeps by the front and back doors and she would have no problem staining her rugs with some thug's brains, regardless of age or race.

Again, I'm not saying she should do something deadly violent against the kid, but somebody needs to let him know what's up.

I just don't want to see a situation where Vanessa has any heat come her way.

Other than that, anything goes in my book.

Shouldn't be that hard to spook a punk 17 year old wanna be, IMO.

TsVanessa69
05-31-2009, 05:06 AM
Vanessa I'm sorry,( I might lose "friends" for this) but if you do get the boy jumped and brag about it on here. I'll feel obliged to snitch my damn self, and you can send your goons after me. I'll give you my addresses.

How would you even know who the kid was to snitch to the PD on Vanessa?? :roll:
Thank you! And how do you know when and where?
All you know is its a 17 year old black male in the city of Chicago with a previous record.
I mean there are only about 3 or 4 of those here in Chicago right???????
Only on HA would a crook be made into a victim!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Maybe the cops realize you made all that money illegally and bought all those items with illegal money and felt justice was served. If you read earlier. I was with you until violence was brought into this. They're probably thinking a transgendered puerto rican and a black male. Who cares... your not white like the rest of your neighbors.
So then when he gets his ass kicked, they wont care either, thus proving a point I made earlier!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Puerto Rican transgeneder robbed by black male, black male fucked up, what would a cop care? Street justice, sometimes cops serve it themselves!
BTW, I have a legit job, and was abled to prove where I worked, and what club I just opened. Just so happened that the community newspaper had just wriiten an article about me in the paper, and they have my work number as well as my home number.

TsVanessa69
05-31-2009, 05:09 AM
Yall have got this all flipped, seriously!!

Imagine being robbed by someone, not once, which is bad enough, but multiple times and you knew who it was?

I mean, even my mother has a crow bar she keeps by the front and back doors and she would have no problem staining her rugs with some thug's brains, regardless of age or race.

Again, I'm not saying she should do something deadly violent against the kid, but somebody needs to let him know what's up.

I just don't want to see a situation where Vanessa has any heat come her way.

Other than that, anything goes in my book.

Shouldn't be that hard to spook a punk 17 year old wanna be, IMO.
If you notice only certain people are flipping the script.

giovanni_hotel
05-31-2009, 05:10 AM
Maybe the cops realize you made all that money illegally and bought all those items with illegal money and felt justice was served. If you read earlier. I was with you until violence was brought into this. They're probably thinking a transgendered puerto rican and a black male. Who cares... your not white like the rest of your neighbors.[/quote]

I know you aren't saying because someone escorts, that means they have no rights under the law and DESERVE to be robbed?? :cry:

Besides, Vanessa has a legit 9 to 5, so IMO it would be difficult to determine which money bought what, unless she told you.

jjhill
05-31-2009, 05:13 AM
Vanessa I'm sorry,( I might lose "friends" for this) but if you do get the boy jumped and brag about it on here. I'll feel obliged to snitch my damn self, and you can send your goons after me. I'll give you my addresses.

How would you even know who the kid was to snitch to the PD on Vanessa?? :roll:
Thank you! And how do you know when and where?
All you know is its a 17 year old black male in the city of Chicago with a previous record.
I mean there are only about 3 or 4 of those here in Chicago right???????
Only on HA would a crook be made into a victim!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Maybe the cops realize you made all that money illegally and bought all those items with illegal money and felt justice was served. If you read earlier. I was with you until violence was brought into this. They're probably thinking a transgendered puerto rican and a black male. Who cares... your not white like the rest of your neighbors.
So then when he gets his ass kicked, they wont care either, thus proving a point I made earlier!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Puerto Rican transgeneder robbed by black male, black male fucked up, what would a cop care? Street justice, sometimes cops serve it themselves!
BTW, I have a legit job, and was abled to prove where I worked, and what club I just opened. Just so happened that the community newspaper had just wriiten an article about me in the paper, and they have my work number as well as my home number.

Yea then the guy friends retaliate, you get beaten or even worst killed and the paper reads another tranny prostitute dead. It is what it is I guess, I'm done with this. Go ahead have the guy beating up. I would think after a person house get broken to the first time they would make changes. And for gio, it's a big difference between beating up somebody breaking in your house and riding a bike on the street. (Even if it is your bike)

jjhill
05-31-2009, 05:14 AM
Maybe the cops realize you made all that money illegally and bought all those items with illegal money and felt justice was served. If you read earlier. I was with you until violence was brought into this. They're probably thinking a transgendered puerto rican and a black male. Who cares... your not white like the rest of your neighbors.

I know you aren't saying because someone escorts, that means they have no rights under the law and DESERVE to be robbed?? :cry:

Besides, Vanessa ahs a legit 9 to 5, so IMO it would be difficult to determine which money bought what, unless she told you.[/quote]

Not what I'm saying at all. Believe what you want to believe tho. The kid did something illegal. Vanessa is doing something illegal.

giovanni_hotel
05-31-2009, 05:25 AM
I'm curious jjhill, if you were the one in this scenario and didn't install security cams in your apartment, also if you saw the kid and his friend wearing your gold chain, ring, designer shades and riding your bike outside, and the cops did nothing about it.

Would you be like, " oh well, chalk it up as a loss."?

Or pursue a different route?

Vanessa is a woman, I'm a 6'1 230 pound former college athlete, and trust me, I would have confronted this kid and his father and got some of my merchandise back.

Since I was little, my momma would tell me that because of a female's slighter stature, a woman had to be cunning to make her way through life.

The methods I would pursue would not be the same as Vanessa, but that doesn't mean some type of confrontation shouldn't happen with this punk kid, whether it's physical or not.

TsVanessa69
05-31-2009, 05:26 AM
Maybe the cops realize you made all that money illegally and bought all those items with illegal money and felt justice was served. If you read earlier. I was with you until violence was brought into this. They're probably thinking a transgendered puerto rican and a black male. Who cares... your not white like the rest of your neighbors.

I know you aren't saying because someone escorts, that means they have no rights under the law and DESERVE to be robbed?? :cry:

Besides, Vanessa ahs a legit 9 to 5, so IMO it would be difficult to determine which money bought what, unless she told you.[/quote]

Aside from a 9-5, I am a cast member at 2 clubs in Chicago, and get a legit check from Niteflirt on a monthly basis. I dont even rely on escorting anymore, I moved up from that. 80% of my income is verifyable and legit!
I'm not as stupid as people on here want to portray me!

jjhill
05-31-2009, 05:31 AM
I'm curious jjhill, if you were the one in this scenario and didn't install security cams in your apartment, also if you saw the kid and his friend wearing your gold chain, ring, designer shades and riding your bike outside, and the cops did nothing about it.

Would you be like, " oh well, chalk it up as a loss."?

Or pursue a different route?

Vanessa is a woman, I'm a 6'1 230 pound former college athlete, and trust me, I would have confronted this kid and his father and got some of my merchandise back.

Since I was little, my momma would tell me that because of a female's slighter stature, a woman had to be cunning to make her way through life.

The methods I would pursue would not be the same as Vanessa, but that doesn't mean some type of confrontation shouldn't happen with this punk kid, whether it's physical or not.

After the first time Gio, I would make sure it wouldn't happen again. After the first time I would of installed some kind of home security in my house. Made sure all the doors was locked, make sure all the windows was closed. I'm not familiar with the city you from but, in Chicago violence begots violence. When I was 15, I wish a person would of tried to confront me. I might of got jump, but I'm sure my people back then would retaliated and my family. It would of been a never ending cycle til someone got killed probably. Oh yea, another thing. I don't wear gold chains, gold rings, or designer shades. I know white people who has gotten wayyyy more money stolen (where the cops didn't do nothing)and didn't want to resort to violence.

jjhill
05-31-2009, 05:32 AM
Maybe the cops realize you made all that money illegally and bought all those items with illegal money and felt justice was served. If you read earlier. I was with you until violence was brought into this. They're probably thinking a transgendered puerto rican and a black male. Who cares... your not white like the rest of your neighbors.

I know you aren't saying because someone escorts, that means they have no rights under the law and DESERVE to be robbed?? :cry:

Besides, Vanessa ahs a legit 9 to 5, so IMO it would be difficult to determine which money bought what, unless she told you.

Aside from a 9-5, I am a cast member at 2 clubs in Chicago, and get a legit check from Niteflirt on a monthly basis. I dont even rely on escorting anymore, I moved up from that. 80% of my income is verifyable and legit!
I'm not as stupid as people on here want to portray me![/quote]


Not what I was saying at all. lol Just making a point to what the cops could be feeling. I know some women who prostitutes to put food on their family table. I think it should be legal.

TsVanessa69
05-31-2009, 05:35 AM
Vanessa I'm sorry,( I might lose "friends" for this) but if you do get the boy jumped and brag about it on here. I'll feel obliged to snitch my damn self, and you can send your goons after me. I'll give you my addresses.

How would you even know who the kid was to snitch to the PD on Vanessa?? :roll:
Thank you! And how do you know when and where?
All you know is its a 17 year old black male in the city of Chicago with a previous record.
I mean there are only about 3 or 4 of those here in Chicago right???????
Only on HA would a crook be made into a victim!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Maybe the cops realize you made all that money illegally and bought all those items with illegal money and felt justice was served. If you read earlier. I was with you until violence was brought into this. They're probably thinking a transgendered puerto rican and a black male. Who cares... your not white like the rest of your neighbors.
So then when he gets his ass kicked, they wont care either, thus proving a point I made earlier!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Puerto Rican transgeneder robbed by black male, black male fucked up, what would a cop care? Street justice, sometimes cops serve it themselves!
BTW, I have a legit job, and was abled to prove where I worked, and what club I just opened. Just so happened that the community newspaper had just wriiten an article about me in the paper, and they have my work number as well as my home number.

Yea then the guy friends retaliate, you get beaten or even worst killed and the paper reads another tranny prostitute dead. It is what it is I guess, I'm done with this. Go ahead have the guy beating up. I would think after a person house get broken to the first time they would make changes. And for gio, it's a big difference between beating up somebody breaking in your house and riding a bike on the street. (Even if it is your bike)

Actually when I die the papers would read: Reina Duran Transgendered Activist, Social worker and Showgirl has passed on.
You got me real twisted. Being an escort does not define me and who I am, nor the hundreds of peoples lives I have changed on so many levels. This is only a facet in a diamond that will NEVER loose its shine!
You dont even know who the fuck I am!
But I dusted you and fed you back your own words.
Just because you are black and he is black doesnt make him to be the victim.
He choose to invade my privacy, rob me of my hard earned money no matter how I earned it, I EARNED it, I didnt STEAL it.
So when you open Pandora's box, its because you are man enough to take whatever is waiting for you!

TsVanessa69
05-31-2009, 05:37 AM
Maybe the cops realize you made all that money illegally and bought all those items with illegal money and felt justice was served. If you read earlier. I was with you until violence was brought into this. They're probably thinking a transgendered puerto rican and a black male. Who cares... your not white like the rest of your neighbors.

I know you aren't saying because someone escorts, that means they have no rights under the law and DESERVE to be robbed?? :cry:

Besides, Vanessa ahs a legit 9 to 5, so IMO it would be difficult to determine which money bought what, unless she told you.

Aside from a 9-5, I am a cast member at 2 clubs in Chicago, and get a legit check from Niteflirt on a monthly basis. I dont even rely on escorting anymore, I moved up from that. 80% of my income is verifyable and legit!
I'm not as stupid as people on here want to portray me!


Not what I was saying at all. lol Just making a point to what the cops could be feeling. I know some women who prostitutes to put food on their family table. I think it should be legal.[/quote]

The cops who came to my house know me as a social worker and a show girl, with verifyable contact info at both jobs.
Tips for a showgirl as good looking as me rack up!!!

jjhill
05-31-2009, 05:37 AM
Vanessa I'm sorry,( I might lose "friends" for this) but if you do get the boy jumped and brag about it on here. I'll feel obliged to snitch my damn self, and you can send your goons after me. I'll give you my addresses.

How would you even know who the kid was to snitch to the PD on Vanessa?? :roll:
Thank you! And how do you know when and where?
All you know is its a 17 year old black male in the city of Chicago with a previous record.
I mean there are only about 3 or 4 of those here in Chicago right???????
Only on HA would a crook be made into a victim!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Maybe the cops realize you made all that money illegally and bought all those items with illegal money and felt justice was served. If you read earlier. I was with you until violence was brought into this. They're probably thinking a transgendered puerto rican and a black male. Who cares... your not white like the rest of your neighbors.
So then when he gets his ass kicked, they wont care either, thus proving a point I made earlier!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Puerto Rican transgeneder robbed by black male, black male fucked up, what would a cop care? Street justice, sometimes cops serve it themselves!
BTW, I have a legit job, and was abled to prove where I worked, and what club I just opened. Just so happened that the community newspaper had just wriiten an article about me in the paper, and they have my work number as well as my home number.

Yea then the guy friends retaliate, you get beaten or even worst killed and the paper reads another tranny prostitute dead. It is what it is I guess, I'm done with this. Go ahead have the guy beating up. I would think after a person house get broken to the first time they would make changes. And for gio, it's a big difference between beating up somebody breaking in your house and riding a bike on the street. (Even if it is your bike)

Actually when I die the papers would read: Reina Duran Transgendered Activist, Social worker and Showgirl has passed on.
You got me real twisted. Being an escort does not define me and who I am, nor the hundreds of peoples lives I have changed on so many levels. This is only a facet in a diamond that will NEVER loose its shine!
You dont even know who the fuck I am!
But I dusted you and fed you back your own words.
Just because you are black and he is black doesnt make him to be the victim.
He choose to invade my privacy, rob me of my hard earned money no matter how I earned it, I EARNED it, I didnt STEAL it.
So when you open Pandora's box, its because you are man enough to take whatever is waiting for you!


I guarantee you the suntimes and the tribune won't read that. I've been flipping everything you've been saying. I have nothing but respect for you, and was very dissapointed when you resorted to violence. Very.... I'm just expressing the way that society see it.

TsVanessa69
05-31-2009, 05:39 AM
I'm curious jjhill, if you were the one in this scenario and didn't install security cams in your apartment, also if you saw the kid and his friend wearing your gold chain, ring, designer shades and riding your bike outside, and the cops did nothing about it.

Would you be like, " oh well, chalk it up as a loss."?

Or pursue a different route?

Vanessa is a woman, I'm a 6'1 230 pound former college athlete, and trust me, I would have confronted this kid and his father and got some of my merchandise back.

Since I was little, my momma would tell me that because of a female's slighter stature, a woman had to be cunning to make her way through life.

The methods I would pursue would not be the same as Vanessa, but that doesn't mean some type of confrontation shouldn't happen with this punk kid, whether it's physical or not.

After the first time Gio, I would make sure it wouldn't happen again. After the first time I would of installed some kind of home security in my house. Made sure all the doors was locked, make sure all the windows was closed. I'm not familiar with the city you from but, in Chicago violence begots violence. When I was 15, I wish a person would of tried to confront me. I might of got jump, but I'm sure my people back then would retaliated and my family. It would of been a never ending cycle til someone got killed probably. Oh yea, another thing. I don't wear gold chains, gold rings, or designer shades. I know white people who has gotten wayyyy more money stolen (where the cops didn't do nothing)and didn't want to resort to violence.

You let me play you like a violin!!!!!!!!!!!!
You went on and on and I had a good laugh at your expense!

jjhill
05-31-2009, 05:40 AM
I'm curious jjhill, if you were the one in this scenario and didn't install security cams in your apartment, also if you saw the kid and his friend wearing your gold chain, ring, designer shades and riding your bike outside, and the cops did nothing about it.

Would you be like, " oh well, chalk it up as a loss."?

Or pursue a different route?

Vanessa is a woman, I'm a 6'1 230 pound former college athlete, and trust me, I would have confronted this kid and his father and got some of my merchandise back.

Since I was little, my momma would tell me that because of a female's slighter stature, a woman had to be cunning to make her way through life.

The methods I would pursue would not be the same as Vanessa, but that doesn't mean some type of confrontation shouldn't happen with this punk kid, whether it's physical or not.

After the first time Gio, I would make sure it wouldn't happen again. After the first time I would of installed some kind of home security in my house. Made sure all the doors was locked, make sure all the windows was closed. I'm not familiar with the city you from but, in Chicago violence begots violence. When I was 15, I wish a person would of tried to confront me. I might of got jump, but I'm sure my people back then would retaliated and my family. It would of been a never ending cycle til someone got killed probably. Oh yea, another thing. I don't wear gold chains, gold rings, or designer shades. I know white people who has gotten wayyyy more money stolen (where the cops didn't do nothing)and didn't want to resort to violence.

You let me play you like a violin!!!!!!!!!!!!
You went on and on and I had a good laugh at your expense!

Wow are you serious, you played nobody. I'm not the one who wasn't smart of enough to prevent myself from getting robbed an extra two times. Genius!

TsVanessa69
05-31-2009, 05:44 AM
Vanessa I'm sorry,( I might lose "friends" for this) but if you do get the boy jumped and brag about it on here. I'll feel obliged to snitch my damn self, and you can send your goons after me. I'll give you my addresses.

How would you even know who the kid was to snitch to the PD on Vanessa?? :roll:
Thank you! And how do you know when and where?
All you know is its a 17 year old black male in the city of Chicago with a previous record.
I mean there are only about 3 or 4 of those here in Chicago right???????
Only on HA would a crook be made into a victim!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Maybe the cops realize you made all that money illegally and bought all those items with illegal money and felt justice was served. If you read earlier. I was with you until violence was brought into this. They're probably thinking a transgendered puerto rican and a black male. Who cares... your not white like the rest of your neighbors.
So then when he gets his ass kicked, they wont care either, thus proving a point I made earlier!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Puerto Rican transgeneder robbed by black male, black male fucked up, what would a cop care? Street justice, sometimes cops serve it themselves!
BTW, I have a legit job, and was abled to prove where I worked, and what club I just opened. Just so happened that the community newspaper had just wriiten an article about me in the paper, and they have my work number as well as my home number.

Yea then the guy friends retaliate, you get beaten or even worst killed and the paper reads another tranny prostitute dead. It is what it is I guess, I'm done with this. Go ahead have the guy beating up. I would think after a person house get broken to the first time they would make changes. And for gio, it's a big difference between beating up somebody breaking in your house and riding a bike on the street. (Even if it is your bike)

Actually when I die the papers would read: Reina Duran Transgendered Activist, Social worker and Showgirl has passed on.
You got me real twisted. Being an escort does not define me and who I am, nor the hundreds of peoples lives I have changed on so many levels. This is only a facet in a diamond that will NEVER loose its shine!
You dont even know who the fuck I am!
But I dusted you and fed you back your own words.
Just because you are black and he is black doesnt make him to be the victim.
He choose to invade my privacy, rob me of my hard earned money no matter how I earned it, I EARNED it, I didnt STEAL it.
So when you open Pandora's box, its because you are man enough to take whatever is waiting for you!


I guarantee you the suntimes and the tribune won't read that. I've been flipping everything you've been saying. I have nothing but respect for you, and was very dissapointed when you resorted to violence. Very.... I'm just expressing the way that society see it.
The Tribune, Sun Times, Gay Chicago and La Voz would all pay homage to me! I have even spoken of having to do sex work to survive in an article in every one of those papers, yes EVERY one of those papers have done articles on me, and my contributions to both the gay community and the Puerto Rican community!
I am not embarrassed or ashamed of what I have had to do in my life to get to where I got. And I've been blessed and I am giving back! I am educated, certified by American Red Cross, City of Chicago Department of Health and on my way to becoming a social worker. So before you dare open your mouth with some shady shit about the papers saying a dead tranny prostitute, know who the fuck you are talking about!

giovanni_hotel
05-31-2009, 05:45 AM
I'm curious jjhill, if you were the one in this scenario and didn't install security cams in your apartment, also if you saw the kid and his friend wearing your gold chain, ring, designer shades and riding your bike outside, and the cops did nothing about it.

Would you be like, " oh well, chalk it up as a loss."?

Or pursue a different route?

Vanessa is a woman, I'm a 6'1 230 pound former college athlete, and trust me, I would have confronted this kid and his father and got some of my merchandise back.

Since I was little, my momma would tell me that because of a female's slighter stature, a woman had to be cunning to make her way through life.

The methods I would pursue would not be the same as Vanessa, but that doesn't mean some type of confrontation shouldn't happen with this punk kid, whether it's physical or not.

After the first time Gio, I would make sure it wouldn't happen again. After the first time I would of installed some kind of home security in my house. Made sure all the doors was locked, make sure all the windows was closed. I'm not familiar with the city you from but, in Chicago violence begots violence. When I was 15, I wish a person would of tried to confront me. I might of got jump, but I'm sure my people back then would retaliated and my family. It would of been a never ending cycle til someone got killed probably. Oh yea, another thing. I don't wear gold chains, gold rings, or designer shades. I know white people who has gotten wayyyy more money stolen (where the cops didn't do nothing)and didn't want to resort to violence.

Except this kid is from a foster program, he doesn't have any family!!

(Not to be cold-blooded, but let's be for real.)

And yeah, I know it's dangerous confronting a kid who obviously has no respect for authority, because it usually means his family has the same mindset.

I'm not talking about you jj, just that in general if you come after a teenager, his family may end up getting involved too.

But I'm still curious (and I feel like you're dodging me on this one), what would you do if you saw a kid outside your apartment with something that was clearly stolen from your crib?

jjhill
05-31-2009, 05:47 AM
Vanessa I'm sorry,( I might lose "friends" for this) but if you do get the boy jumped and brag about it on here. I'll feel obliged to snitch my damn self, and you can send your goons after me. I'll give you my addresses.

How would you even know who the kid was to snitch to the PD on Vanessa?? :roll:
Thank you! And how do you know when and where?
All you know is its a 17 year old black male in the city of Chicago with a previous record.
I mean there are only about 3 or 4 of those here in Chicago right???????
Only on HA would a crook be made into a victim!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Maybe the cops realize you made all that money illegally and bought all those items with illegal money and felt justice was served. If you read earlier. I was with you until violence was brought into this. They're probably thinking a transgendered puerto rican and a black male. Who cares... your not white like the rest of your neighbors.
So then when he gets his ass kicked, they wont care either, thus proving a point I made earlier!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Puerto Rican transgeneder robbed by black male, black male fucked up, what would a cop care? Street justice, sometimes cops serve it themselves!
BTW, I have a legit job, and was abled to prove where I worked, and what club I just opened. Just so happened that the community newspaper had just wriiten an article about me in the paper, and they have my work number as well as my home number.

Yea then the guy friends retaliate, you get beaten or even worst killed and the paper reads another tranny prostitute dead. It is what it is I guess, I'm done with this. Go ahead have the guy beating up. I would think after a person house get broken to the first time they would make changes. And for gio, it's a big difference between beating up somebody breaking in your house and riding a bike on the street. (Even if it is your bike)

Actually when I die the papers would read: Reina Duran Transgendered Activist, Social worker and Showgirl has passed on.
You got me real twisted. Being an escort does not define me and who I am, nor the hundreds of peoples lives I have changed on so many levels. This is only a facet in a diamond that will NEVER loose its shine!
You dont even know who the fuck I am!
But I dusted you and fed you back your own words.
Just because you are black and he is black doesnt make him to be the victim.
He choose to invade my privacy, rob me of my hard earned money no matter how I earned it, I EARNED it, I didnt STEAL it.
So when you open Pandora's box, its because you are man enough to take whatever is waiting for you!


I guarantee you the suntimes and the tribune won't read that. I've been flipping everything you've been saying. I have nothing but respect for you, and was very dissapointed when you resorted to violence. Very.... I'm just expressing the way that society see it.
The Tribune, Sun Times, Gay Chicago and La Voz would all pay homage to me! I have even spoken of having to do sex work to survive in an article in every one of those papers, yes EVERY one of those papers have done articles on me, and my contributions to both the gay community and the Puerto Rican community!
I am not embarrassed or ashamed of what I have had to do in my life to get to where I got. And I've been blessed and I am giving back! I am educated, certified by American Red Cross, City of Chicago Department of Health and on my way to becoming a social worker. So before you dare open your mouth with some shady shit about the papers saying a dead tranny prostitute, know who the fuck you are talking about!

You like to brag a lot. I can do the very same. Your bragging is pointless to me. Your supp. what 37? and your talking about having a 17 yr old beat up. Yea your a prize citizen! Once again your trying to twist my words. Keep it up! I've seen papers report on dead transgendered individuals. First off they give their male names, refer to them with pro nouns (you know what that is right) that clearly don't describe their gender. But your right, I have no clue what I'm talking about. I'm just a black hoodlum

TsVanessa69
05-31-2009, 05:48 AM
I'm curious jjhill, if you were the one in this scenario and didn't install security cams in your apartment, also if you saw the kid and his friend wearing your gold chain, ring, designer shades and riding your bike outside, and the cops did nothing about it.

Would you be like, " oh well, chalk it up as a loss."?

Or pursue a different route?

Vanessa is a woman, I'm a 6'1 230 pound former college athlete, and trust me, I would have confronted this kid and his father and got some of my merchandise back.

Since I was little, my momma would tell me that because of a female's slighter stature, a woman had to be cunning to make her way through life.

The methods I would pursue would not be the same as Vanessa, but that doesn't mean some type of confrontation shouldn't happen with this punk kid, whether it's physical or not.

After the first time Gio, I would make sure it wouldn't happen again. After the first time I would of installed some kind of home security in my house. Made sure all the doors was locked, make sure all the windows was closed. I'm not familiar with the city you from but, in Chicago violence begots violence. When I was 15, I wish a person would of tried to confront me. I might of got jump, but I'm sure my people back then would retaliated and my family. It would of been a never ending cycle til someone got killed probably. Oh yea, another thing. I don't wear gold chains, gold rings, or designer shades. I know white people who has gotten wayyyy more money stolen (where the cops didn't do nothing)and didn't want to resort to violence.

You let me play you like a violin!!!!!!!!!!!!
You went on and on and I had a good laugh at your expense!

Wow are you serious, you played nobody. I'm not the one who wasn't smart of enough to prevent myself from getting robbed an extra two times. Genius!
Now you know why race was used in my description of the robber.
That explains it all! But trust and beleive there is enough legal council on my side that he will be dealt with.

jjhill
05-31-2009, 05:49 AM
I'm curious jjhill, if you were the one in this scenario and didn't install security cams in your apartment, also if you saw the kid and his friend wearing your gold chain, ring, designer shades and riding your bike outside, and the cops did nothing about it.

Would you be like, " oh well, chalk it up as a loss."?

Or pursue a different route?

Vanessa is a woman, I'm a 6'1 230 pound former college athlete, and trust me, I would have confronted this kid and his father and got some of my merchandise back.

Since I was little, my momma would tell me that because of a female's slighter stature, a woman had to be cunning to make her way through life.

The methods I would pursue would not be the same as Vanessa, but that doesn't mean some type of confrontation shouldn't happen with this punk kid, whether it's physical or not.

After the first time Gio, I would make sure it wouldn't happen again. After the first time I would of installed some kind of home security in my house. Made sure all the doors was locked, make sure all the windows was closed. I'm not familiar with the city you from but, in Chicago violence begots violence. When I was 15, I wish a person would of tried to confront me. I might of got jump, but I'm sure my people back then would retaliated and my family. It would of been a never ending cycle til someone got killed probably. Oh yea, another thing. I don't wear gold chains, gold rings, or designer shades. I know white people who has gotten wayyyy more money stolen (where the cops didn't do nothing)and didn't want to resort to violence.

Except this kid is from a foster program, he doesn't have any family!!

(Not to be cold-blooded, but let's be for real.)

And yeah, I know it's dangerous confronting a kid who obviously has no respect for authority, because it usually means his family has the same mindset.

I'm not talking about you jj, just that in general if you come after a teenager, his family may end up getting involved too.

But I'm still curious (and I feel like you're dodging me on this one), what would you do if you saw a kid outside your apartment with something that was clearly stolen from your crib?

I wouldn't fight him. I had about 8 friends die over senseless stuff like this. I'll say yo that's my bike. He deny it, I call the cops and have the right proof for it.

jjhill
05-31-2009, 05:50 AM
I'm curious jjhill, if you were the one in this scenario and didn't install security cams in your apartment, also if you saw the kid and his friend wearing your gold chain, ring, designer shades and riding your bike outside, and the cops did nothing about it.

Would you be like, " oh well, chalk it up as a loss."?

Or pursue a different route?

Vanessa is a woman, I'm a 6'1 230 pound former college athlete, and trust me, I would have confronted this kid and his father and got some of my merchandise back.

Since I was little, my momma would tell me that because of a female's slighter stature, a woman had to be cunning to make her way through life.

The methods I would pursue would not be the same as Vanessa, but that doesn't mean some type of confrontation shouldn't happen with this punk kid, whether it's physical or not.

After the first time Gio, I would make sure it wouldn't happen again. After the first time I would of installed some kind of home security in my house. Made sure all the doors was locked, make sure all the windows was closed. I'm not familiar with the city you from but, in Chicago violence begots violence. When I was 15, I wish a person would of tried to confront me. I might of got jump, but I'm sure my people back then would retaliated and my family. It would of been a never ending cycle til someone got killed probably. Oh yea, another thing. I don't wear gold chains, gold rings, or designer shades. I know white people who has gotten wayyyy more money stolen (where the cops didn't do nothing)and didn't want to resort to violence.

You let me play you like a violin!!!!!!!!!!!!
You went on and on and I had a good laugh at your expense!

Wow are you serious, you played nobody. I'm not the one who wasn't smart of enough to prevent myself from getting robbed an extra two times. Genius!
Now you know why race was used in my description of the robber.
That explains it all! But trust and beleive there is enough legal council on my side that he will be dealt with.

because your racist? yup! correction closet racist. You never did answer my question to why you call the guy father a fag and say you hate faggots, when you use to be called one. Imma take the gloves off now.

TsVanessa69
05-31-2009, 05:53 AM
Vanessa I'm sorry,( I might lose "friends" for this) but if you do get the boy jumped and brag about it on here. I'll feel obliged to snitch my damn self, and you can send your goons after me. I'll give you my addresses.

How would you even know who the kid was to snitch to the PD on Vanessa?? :roll:
Thank you! And how do you know when and where?
All you know is its a 17 year old black male in the city of Chicago with a previous record.
I mean there are only about 3 or 4 of those here in Chicago right???????
Only on HA would a crook be made into a victim!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Maybe the cops realize you made all that money illegally and bought all those items with illegal money and felt justice was served. If you read earlier. I was with you until violence was brought into this. They're probably thinking a transgendered puerto rican and a black male. Who cares... your not white like the rest of your neighbors.
So then when he gets his ass kicked, they wont care either, thus proving a point I made earlier!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Puerto Rican transgeneder robbed by black male, black male fucked up, what would a cop care? Street justice, sometimes cops serve it themselves!
BTW, I have a legit job, and was abled to prove where I worked, and what club I just opened. Just so happened that the community newspaper had just wriiten an article about me in the paper, and they have my work number as well as my home number.

Yea then the guy friends retaliate, you get beaten or even worst killed and the paper reads another tranny prostitute dead. It is what it is I guess, I'm done with this. Go ahead have the guy beating up. I would think after a person house get broken to the first time they would make changes. And for gio, it's a big difference between beating up somebody breaking in your house and riding a bike on the street. (Even if it is your bike)

Actually when I die the papers would read: Reina Duran Transgendered Activist, Social worker and Showgirl has passed on.
You got me real twisted. Being an escort does not define me and who I am, nor the hundreds of peoples lives I have changed on so many levels. This is only a facet in a diamond that will NEVER loose its shine!
You dont even know who the fuck I am!
But I dusted you and fed you back your own words.
Just because you are black and he is black doesnt make him to be the victim.
He choose to invade my privacy, rob me of my hard earned money no matter how I earned it, I EARNED it, I didnt STEAL it.
So when you open Pandora's box, its because you are man enough to take whatever is waiting for you!


I guarantee you the suntimes and the tribune won't read that. I've been flipping everything you've been saying. I have nothing but respect for you, and was very dissapointed when you resorted to violence. Very.... I'm just expressing the way that society see it.
The Tribune, Sun Times, Gay Chicago and La Voz would all pay homage to me! I have even spoken of having to do sex work to survive in an article in every one of those papers, yes EVERY one of those papers have done articles on me, and my contributions to both the gay community and the Puerto Rican community!
I am not embarrassed or ashamed of what I have had to do in my life to get to where I got. And I've been blessed and I am giving back! I am educated, certified by American Red Cross, City of Chicago Department of Health and on my way to becoming a social worker. So before you dare open your mouth with some shady shit about the papers saying a dead tranny prostitute, know who the fuck you are talking about!

You like to brag a lot. I can do the very same. Your bragging is pointless to me. Your supp. what 37? and your talking about having a 17 yr old beat up. Yea your a prize citizen! Once again your trying to twist my words. Keep it up! I've seen papers report on dead transgendered individuals. First off they give their male names, refer to them with pro nouns (you know what that is right) that clearly don't describe their gender. But your right, I have no clue what I'm talking about. I'm just a black hoodlum
Once again you dont know shit about me!
My state ID, birth certificate, and social security care are all changed to Reina Duran- FEMALE! I handle business. And I have enough family who will write my obituary. Girl who pass on with male names didn't handle business! But like I said, I've done enough, given enough that when I die, no shady shit is going down!

jjhill
05-31-2009, 05:55 AM
[quote:ac9dd4a18f="jjhill"]Vanessa I'm sorry,( I might lose "friends" for this) but if you do get the boy jumped and brag about it on here. I'll feel obliged to snitch my damn self, and you can send your goons after me. I'll give you my addresses.

How would you even know who the kid was to snitch to the PD on Vanessa?? :roll:
Thank you! And how do you know when and where?
All you know is its a 17 year old black male in the city of Chicago with a previous record.
I mean there are only about 3 or 4 of those here in Chicago right???????
Only on HA would a crook be made into a victim!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Maybe the cops realize you made all that money illegally and bought all those items with illegal money and felt justice was served. If you read earlier. I was with you until violence was brought into this. They're probably thinking a transgendered puerto rican and a black male. Who cares... your not white like the rest of your neighbors.
So then when he gets his ass kicked, they wont care either, thus proving a point I made earlier!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Puerto Rican transgeneder robbed by black male, black male fucked up, what would a cop care? Street justice, sometimes cops serve it themselves!
BTW, I have a legit job, and was abled to prove where I worked, and what club I just opened. Just so happened that the community newspaper had just wriiten an article about me in the paper, and they have my work number as well as my home number.

Yea then the guy friends retaliate, you get beaten or even worst killed and the paper reads another tranny prostitute dead. It is what it is I guess, I'm done with this. Go ahead have the guy beating up. I would think after a person house get broken to the first time they would make changes. And for gio, it's a big difference between beating up somebody breaking in your house and riding a bike on the street. (Even if it is your bike)

Actually when I die the papers would read: Reina Duran Transgendered Activist, Social worker and Showgirl has passed on.
You got me real twisted. Being an escort does not define me and who I am, nor the hundreds of peoples lives I have changed on so many levels. This is only a facet in a diamond that will NEVER loose its shine!
You dont even know who the fuck I am!
But I dusted you and fed you back your own words.
Just because you are black and he is black doesnt make him to be the victim.
He choose to invade my privacy, rob me of my hard earned money no matter how I earned it, I EARNED it, I didnt STEAL it.
So when you open Pandora's box, its because you are man enough to take whatever is waiting for you!


I guarantee you the suntimes and the tribune won't read that. I've been flipping everything you've been saying. I have nothing but respect for you, and was very dissapointed when you resorted to violence. Very.... I'm just expressing the way that society see it.
The Tribune, Sun Times, Gay Chicago and La Voz would all pay homage to me! I have even spoken of having to do sex work to survive in an article in every one of those papers, yes EVERY one of those papers have done articles on me, and my contributions to both the gay community and the Puerto Rican community!
I am not embarrassed or ashamed of what I have had to do in my life to get to where I got. And I've been blessed and I am giving back! I am educated, certified by American Red Cross, City of Chicago Department of Health and on my way to becoming a social worker. So before you dare open your mouth with some shady shit about the papers saying a dead tranny prostitute, know who the fuck you are talking about!

You like to brag a lot. I can do the very same. Your bragging is pointless to me. Your supp. what 37? and your talking about having a 17 yr old beat up. Yea your a prize citizen! Once again your trying to twist my words. Keep it up! I've seen papers report on dead transgendered individuals. First off they give their male names, refer to them with pro nouns (you know what that is right) that clearly don't describe their gender. But your right, I have no clue what I'm talking about. I'm just a black hoodlum
Once again you dont know shit about me!
My state ID, birth certificate, and social security care are all changed to Reina Duran- FEMALE! I handle business. And I have enough family who will write my obituary. Girl who pass on with male names didn't handle business! But like I said, I've done enough, given enough that when I die, no shady shit is going down![/quote:ac9dd4a18f]

What ever you say :roll:

TsVanessa69
05-31-2009, 05:57 AM
I'm curious jjhill, if you were the one in this scenario and didn't install security cams in your apartment, also if you saw the kid and his friend wearing your gold chain, ring, designer shades and riding your bike outside, and the cops did nothing about it.

Would you be like, " oh well, chalk it up as a loss."?

Or pursue a different route?

Vanessa is a woman, I'm a 6'1 230 pound former college athlete, and trust me, I would have confronted this kid and his father and got some of my merchandise back.

Since I was little, my momma would tell me that because of a female's slighter stature, a woman had to be cunning to make her way through life.

The methods I would pursue would not be the same as Vanessa, but that doesn't mean some type of confrontation shouldn't happen with this punk kid, whether it's physical or not.

After the first time Gio, I would make sure it wouldn't happen again. After the first time I would of installed some kind of home security in my house. Made sure all the doors was locked, make sure all the windows was closed. I'm not familiar with the city you from but, in Chicago violence begots violence. When I was 15, I wish a person would of tried to confront me. I might of got jump, but I'm sure my people back then would retaliated and my family. It would of been a never ending cycle til someone got killed probably. Oh yea, another thing. I don't wear gold chains, gold rings, or designer shades. I know white people who has gotten wayyyy more money stolen (where the cops didn't do nothing)and didn't want to resort to violence.

You let me play you like a violin!!!!!!!!!!!!
You went on and on and I had a good laugh at your expense!

Wow are you serious, you played nobody. I'm not the one who wasn't smart of enough to prevent myself from getting robbed an extra two times. Genius!
Now you know why race was used in my description of the robber.
That explains it all! But trust and beleive there is enough legal council on my side that he will be dealt with.

because your racist? yup! correction closet racist. You never did answer my question to why you call the guy father a fag and say you hate faggots, when you use to be called one. Imma take the gloves off now.
HMMM I was robbed by a 17 black male, thats a FACT. Racist would be to say all black men rob. The first person to offer his ass whoppin services was a black man, the first girlfriend to console me and like up a blunt with me was black. Calling me racist is pointless. As I said before I just state facts!

giovanni_hotel
05-31-2009, 05:57 AM
I can't argue with that approach, jj.

Except if I felt certain the kid wasn't packing, I'd take my merchandise back, that's all.

I live just outside DC and know that's it better sometimes to let things ride instead of making an issue of them, it's just that if I knew a foster kid was boosting my apartment in my own building(!!), there would be words, at least.

I mean, whatever. I hope the kid get's called out and is held accountable for what he did.

As it stands now, he looks like he's gonna either be a street casualty on serving serious prison time by the age of 21.

jjhill
05-31-2009, 05:58 AM
I'm curious jjhill, if you were the one in this scenario and didn't install security cams in your apartment, also if you saw the kid and his friend wearing your gold chain, ring, designer shades and riding your bike outside, and the cops did nothing about it.

Would you be like, " oh well, chalk it up as a loss."?

Or pursue a different route?

Vanessa is a woman, I'm a 6'1 230 pound former college athlete, and trust me, I would have confronted this kid and his father and got some of my merchandise back.

Since I was little, my momma would tell me that because of a female's slighter stature, a woman had to be cunning to make her way through life.

The methods I would pursue would not be the same as Vanessa, but that doesn't mean some type of confrontation shouldn't happen with this punk kid, whether it's physical or not.

After the first time Gio, I would make sure it wouldn't happen again. After the first time I would of installed some kind of home security in my house. Made sure all the doors was locked, make sure all the windows was closed. I'm not familiar with the city you from but, in Chicago violence begots violence. When I was 15, I wish a person would of tried to confront me. I might of got jump, but I'm sure my people back then would retaliated and my family. It would of been a never ending cycle til someone got killed probably. Oh yea, another thing. I don't wear gold chains, gold rings, or designer shades. I know white people who has gotten wayyyy more money stolen (where the cops didn't do nothing)and didn't want to resort to violence.

You let me play you like a violin!!!!!!!!!!!!
You went on and on and I had a good laugh at your expense!

Wow are you serious, you played nobody. I'm not the one who wasn't smart of enough to prevent myself from getting robbed an extra two times. Genius!
Now you know why race was used in my description of the robber.
That explains it all! But trust and beleive there is enough legal council on my side that he will be dealt with.

because your racist? yup! correction closet racist. You never did answer my question to why you call the guy father a fag and say you hate faggots, when you use to be called one. Imma take the gloves off now.
HMMM I was robbed by a 17 black male, thats a FACT. Racist would be to say all black men rob. The first person to offer his ass whoppin services was a black man, the first girlfriend to console me and like up a blunt with me was black. Calling me racist is pointless. As I said before I just state facts!

A lot of things was said on this thread and others that would make me beg to differ. That's without me twisting words to do that.

jjhill
05-31-2009, 06:00 AM
I can't argue with that approach, jj.

Except if I felt certain the kid wasn't packing, I'd take my merchandise back, that's all.

I live just outside DC and know that's it better sometimes to let things ride instead of making an issue of them, it's just that if I knew a foster kid was boosting my apartment in my own building(!!), there would be words, at least.

I mean, whatever. I hope the kid get's called out and is held accountable for what he did.

As it stands now, he looks like he's gonna either be a street casualty on serving serious prison time by the age of 21.

yea it does, and at that age it's very hard to change them. Without a doubt that guy is 100 percent wrong, but having justice served with physical violence is something I don't condone.

TsVanessa69
05-31-2009, 06:00 AM
I can't argue with that approach, jj.

Except if I felt certain the kid wasn't packing, I'd take my merchandise back, that's all.

I live just outside DC and know that's it better sometimes to let things ride instead of making an issue of them, it's just that if I knew a foster kid was boosting my apartment in my own building(!!), there would be words, at least.

I mean, whatever. I hope the kid get's called out and is held accountable for what he did.

As it stands now, he looks like he's gonna either be a street casualty on serving serious prison time by the age of 21.
THANK YOU!!!!

jjhill
05-31-2009, 06:02 AM
Vanessa like I said, I was with you 100 percent until you wanted to have justice served with physical violence. I was civil on this thread until it was made out that I was trying to defend him because he was black.

TsVanessa69
05-31-2009, 06:02 AM
I can't argue with that approach, jj.

Except if I felt certain the kid wasn't packing, I'd take my merchandise back, that's all.

I live just outside DC and know that's it better sometimes to let things ride instead of making an issue of them, it's just that if I knew a foster kid was boosting my apartment in my own building(!!), there would be words, at least.

I mean, whatever. I hope the kid get's called out and is held accountable for what he did.

As it stands now, he looks like he's gonna either be a street casualty on serving serious prison time by the age of 21.

yea it does, and at that age it's very hard to change them. Without a doubt that guy is 100 percent wrong, but having justice served with physical violence is something I don't condone.
Since you are soooo concerned with him, why dont you pay back everything he stole from me, take him under your wing and save his poor soul. :roll: :roll: :roll:

jjhill
05-31-2009, 06:09 AM
I've actually have taking a lot of boys and girls under my wings at the boys and girls club for the past couple years. Where we teach them to not resort to violence. Have you ever heard of the statement "What you think they stop making guns after they made yours?"

giovanni_hotel
05-31-2009, 06:24 AM
I've actually have taking a lot of boys and girls under my wings at the boys and girls club for the past couple years. Where we teach them to not resort to violence. Have you ever heard of the statement "What you think they stop making guns after they made yours?"

You remind them not to steal other people's property too?LOL

But seriously, jjhill, now I feel like I know where you're coming from, and it's admirable.

It's just that when it's issue that involves me and mine, you forfeit the benefit of the doubt.

Meaning, if I know a kid stole something, I can attempt to show him the error of his ways.

But if that kid robbed ME of thousands of dollars worth of personal items,
it's a totally different scenario.

But I'm gonna quit trying to make you see the upside of getting physical with the kid, because you won't. Which is good.

Still, if Vanessa chose 'a different path' to show this punk thief that robbing from your neighbors is a no-no, I wouldn't be mad at her either! :wink:

jjhill
05-31-2009, 06:31 AM
I've actually have taking a lot of boys and girls under my wings at the boys and girls club for the past couple years. Where we teach them to not resort to violence. Have you ever heard of the statement "What you think they stop making guns after they made yours?"

You remind them not to steal other people's property too?LOL

But seriously, jjhill, now I feel like I know where you're coming from, and it's admirable.

It's just that when it's issue that involves me and mine, you forfeit the benefit of the doubt.

Meaning, if I know a kid stole something, I can attempt to show him the error of his ways.

But if that kid robbed ME of thousands of dollars worth of personal items,
it's a totally different scenario.

But I'm gonna quit trying to make you see the upside of getting physical with the kid, because you won't. Which is good.

Still, if Vanessa chose 'a different path' to show this punk thief that robbing from your neighbors is a no-no, I wouldn't be mad at her either! :wink:

Gio from like 9 to 15, I was a P stone ranger my brother was a vice lord and my best friends was kings (all under the 5). We ran deep, now by no means am I a saint nor my boys. Some of my boys came from foster homes. Now let a grown up come confront one of us? :smh It wouldn't be good for that individual at all. Let a person come up to one of my boys like you stole my bike. lol Seriously I was trying to look out for Vanessa. Ain't no telling what could happen. I'm just trying to say for every action there's a reaction.

TsVanessa69
05-31-2009, 06:34 AM
I've actually have taking a lot of boys and girls under my wings at the boys and girls club for the past couple years. Where we teach them to not resort to violence. Have you ever heard of the statement "What you think they stop making guns after they made yours?"

You remind them not to steal other people's property too?LOL

But seriously, jjhill, now I feel like I know where you're coming from, and it's admirable.

It's just that when it's issue that involves me and mine, you forfeit the benefit of the doubt.

Meaning, if I know a kid stole something, I can attempt to show him the error of his ways.

But if that kid robbed ME of thousands of dollars worth of personal items,
it's a totally different scenario.

But I'm gonna quit trying to make you see the upside of getting physical with the kid, because you won't. Which is good.

Still, if Vanessa chose 'a different path' to show this punk thief that robbing from your neighbors is a no-no, I wouldn't be mad at her either! :wink:

Gio from like 9 to 15, I was a P stone ranger my brother was a vice lord and my best friends was kings (all under the 5). We ran deep, now by no means am I a saint nor my boys. Some of my boys came from foster homes. Now let a grown up come confront one of us? :smh It wouldn't be good for that individual at all. Let a person come up to one of my boys like you stole my bike. lol Seriously I was trying to look out for Vanessa. Ain't no telling what could happen. I'm just trying to say for every action there's a reaction.
My point exactly! For every action there is a reaction!

jjhill
05-31-2009, 06:38 AM
I've actually have taking a lot of boys and girls under my wings at the boys and girls club for the past couple years. Where we teach them to not resort to violence. Have you ever heard of the statement "What you think they stop making guns after they made yours?"

You remind them not to steal other people's property too?LOL

But seriously, jjhill, now I feel like I know where you're coming from, and it's admirable.

It's just that when it's issue that involves me and mine, you forfeit the benefit of the doubt.

Meaning, if I know a kid stole something, I can attempt to show him the error of his ways.

But if that kid robbed ME of thousands of dollars worth of personal items,
it's a totally different scenario.

But I'm gonna quit trying to make you see the upside of getting physical with the kid, because you won't. Which is good.

Still, if Vanessa chose 'a different path' to show this punk thief that robbing from your neighbors is a no-no, I wouldn't be mad at her either! :wink:

Gio from like 9 to 15, I was a P stone ranger my brother was a vice lord and my best friends was kings (all under the 5). We ran deep, now by no means am I a saint nor my boys. Some of my boys came from foster homes. Now let a grown up come confront one of us? :smh It wouldn't be good for that individual at all. Let a person come up to one of my boys like you stole my bike. lol Seriously I was trying to look out for Vanessa. Ain't no telling what could happen. I'm just trying to say for every action there's a reaction.
My point exactly! For every action there is a reaction!

Just don't wanna see you get hurt, cuz like I said I've changed greatly. But let that had been one of my boys in that position and he got his ass whooped. It wouldn't of been good. Just be safe, you know how Chicago is. I'm preaching to the choir

giovanni_hotel
05-31-2009, 06:46 AM
I will say it is strange that the foster dad is kinda unwilling to step up and be the authority figure in this situation.

I don't think the kid is a gang banger, (how would I know!), but it's weird for a foster dad to basically admit yeah I think the kid stole your stuff, but he still won't do anything about it, wants Vanessa to let the police handle it, and won't open his door to be interviewed by the PD.

Sounds like he's scared of somebody, or dodging responsibility.

BLKGSXR
05-31-2009, 06:55 AM
Vanessa I'm sorry,( I might lose "friends" for this) but if you do get the boy jumped and brag about it on here. I'll feel obliged to snitch my damn self, and you can send your goons after me. I'll give you my addresses.I authenticate and Co-sign this...I mean it childish to brag about thing unless its like super duper Uber cool like Power rangers in 93 lol :P

giovanni dont make me add you to the list of dumbest HA posters...we live in the USA there are rules here
Snitch away!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I mean you guys must have been in his shoes plenty of times!good stereotyping... Because I grew up in a bad area does that mean im a bad person? Answer: no...Im pardoning this since your in a enrage state of mind but seriously think before ASS U MING....a little thing we tell newbies in the field @ work.. ASS U MING fucks things up.

On a side note Snitching Is it wrong? Answer: No,not it if becomes about someones well being.

Coroner
05-31-2009, 07:15 AM
23 pages. :shock:

GIRUGAMESH
05-31-2009, 07:44 AM
Change up your routine if possible, get long metal bolts or even a piece of wood to put in the window slide to prevent them being forced open, call an alarm company and buy stickers to put on your doors & windows, make a sign to put in the break-in window that says your apartment has a camera and/or is boobytrapped , harass your landlord mercilessly since you've been a tenant for years and are getting robbed by another tenant.

arnie666
05-31-2009, 09:44 AM
You know sometimes, you can do the right thing in this situation.Go to the landlord go the Police, fill in the right forms , take all sorts of security precautions try and be reasonable with the person affecting your life but what is going on carries on.

Iam talking about where I live now, but sometimes the Police either can't or won't help you. And if they do the punishment is completely inadequate. Sometimes even going to the Police can inflame things even more. It's all very well saying don't do something else but the way lefties have infected our justice system sometimes people do have to take the law into your own hands. Should you have to? no .Is it acceptable? no because sometimes the wrong person gets his legs black and dekered And that means you put yourself at risk from more violence or a prison term.But sometimes you just can't accept the situation.

I once was involved in something that left a very bad taste in my mouth but this person had been warned , the Police couldn't help and I couldn't sit back and watch what was going on. Initally I was angry for going down a level but frankly Iam angry with the justice system and society in general making me feel and others feel we had no choice. My advice is not to do anything in the heat of the moment,make sure the only witness's are people who are in on it, as few people are involved or know as possible and get yourself a cast iron albi. Because if you have reported it to the cops and anything happens to the little shit ,the men in illfitting suits will be wanting to talk to you and sweat you out.

TomSelis
05-31-2009, 02:53 PM
Why not just get a safe? A decent one cost about $120. and why not lock the bike up?

Just because you live in a neighborhood you consider safe, doesn't mean people won't take your shit. Also that doesn't mean people from other neighborhoods won't take your shit either.

BrendaQG
05-31-2009, 04:26 PM
Stole $1500 and allot of my stuff.... If I were in that position I would want to shoot him. Stealing my rent money.... fuck that.

I think you should really look at the possibility of suing him. It takes much less evidence to win a lawsuit. If you can get your land lord to testify that the belongings stolen were yours and he saw the boy with them that could be enough. I mean heck you didn't sell them to the boy.

As for CPD they don't give a fuck about one of us getting stole from or anything else. Would that we just all up'n died they would not care. If we were found floating in the river, they would test to see if we were a missing white woman, then stop caring once our genes said we were male. (think I'm full of it? Consider this (http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=296690).)

deee757
05-31-2009, 04:28 PM
I can't argue with that approach, jj.

Except if I felt certain the kid wasn't packing, I'd take my merchandise back, that's all.

I live just outside DC and know that's it better sometimes to let things ride instead of making an issue of them, it's just that if I knew a foster kid was boosting my apartment in my own building(!!), there would be words, at least.

I mean, whatever. I hope the kid get's called out and is held accountable for what he did.

As it stands now, he looks like he's gonna either be a street casualty on serving serious prison time by the age of 21.
THANK YOU!!!!

Same thing people said about me when I was that age

jjhill
05-31-2009, 04:29 PM
Stole $1500 and allot of my stuff.... If I were in that position I would want to shoot him. Stealing my rent money.... fuck that.

I think you should really look at the possibility of suing him. It takes much less evidence to win a lawsuit. If you can get your land lord to testify that the belongings stolen were yours and he saw the boy with them that could be enough. I mean heck you didn't sell them to the boy.

As for CPD they don't give a fuck about one of us getting stole from or anything else. Would that we just all up'n died they would not care. If we were found floating in the river, they would test to see if we were a missing white woman, then stop caring once our genes said we were male. (think I'm full of it? Consider this (http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=296690).)

When I said the exact same thing I got made out to be a guy that hates transgendered individuals. Thanks Brenda for help making my point. The first thing I said was take him to court, or hell even judge Mathis and get some publicity from it. Side note with the CPD they also don't care if your any other minority. Which I also said about the black guy

deee757
05-31-2009, 04:32 PM
Stole $1500 and allot of my stuff.... If I were in that position I would want to shoot him. Stealing my rent money.... fuck that.

I think you should really look at the possibility of suing him. It takes much less evidence to win a lawsuit. If you can get your land lord to testify that the belongings stolen were yours and he saw the boy with them that could be enough. I mean heck you didn't sell them to the boy.

As for CPD they don't give a fuck about one of us getting stole from or anything else. Would that we just all up'n died they would not care. If we were found floating in the river, they would test to see if we were a missing white woman, then stop caring once our genes said we were male. (think I'm full of it? Consider this (http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=296690).)

good luck suing a juvenile. Im sure you have have that money deposited in your account by noon. N

deee757
05-31-2009, 04:39 PM
You don't even know if he is the actual person that did it. And if you do, is his word against yours. In your words "i had to suck dick and have my dick sucked for that money" , so you committed crime to make the money, and crime was committed against you and the money was taken, charge it to the game. You brought crime to the neighborhood just like he did. You claim the hood will be better when he is gone, If I am a prospective buyer and I know we have a string of burglaries on one block, and prostitution on the other, im buying my house else where.

jjhill
05-31-2009, 04:41 PM
You don't even know if he is the actual person that did it. And if you do, is his word against yours. In your words "i had to suck dick and have my dick sucked for that money" , so you committed crime to make the money, and crime was committed against you and the money was taken, charge it to the game. You brought crime to the neighborhood just like he did. You claim the hood will be better when he is gone, If I am a prospective buyer and I know we have a string of burglaries on one block, and prostitution on the other, im buying my house else where.

Dee I gotta thank you too. Cuz man, last night everything I said like that got twisted (oh you hate "trannys" that have to prostitute to make a decent living?). Everything.... to make me mannnn lol. I held my tongue a lot.

deee757
05-31-2009, 04:47 PM
You don't even know if he is the actual person that did it. And if you do, is his word against yours. In your words "i had to suck dick and have my dick sucked for that money" , so you committed crime to make the money, and crime was committed against you and the money was taken, charge it to the game. You brought crime to the neighborhood just like he did. You claim the hood will be better when he is gone, If I am a prospective buyer and I know we have a string of burglaries on one block, and prostitution on the other, im buying my house else where.

Dee I gotta thank you too. Cuz man, last night everything I said like that got twisted. Everything.... to make me mannnn lol. I held my tongue a lot.\

Lol, When they say "there goes the neighborhood" they not just talking about the gay black men and the foster children, they talking about the half black and half puerto rican transsexual activist, social worker, show girl, escort, prostitutes who move there too.

BrendaQG
05-31-2009, 05:57 PM
Stole $1500 and allot of my stuff.... If I were in that position I would want to shoot him. Stealing my rent money.... fuck that.

I think you should really look at the possibility of suing him. It takes much less evidence to win a lawsuit. If you can get your land lord to testify that the belongings stolen were yours and he saw the boy with them that could be enough. I mean heck you didn't sell them to the boy.

As for CPD they don't give a fuck about one of us getting stole from or anything else. Would that we just all up'n died they would not care. If we were found floating in the river, they would test to see if we were a missing white woman, then stop caring once our genes said we were male. (think I'm full of it? Consider this (http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=296690).)

good luck suing a juvenile. Im sure you have have that money deposited in your account by noon. N

A 17 year old is not a juvenile in the state of Illinois...as we all found out thanks to R.Kelly. As for the evidence she said she saw him, and her landlord saw him with the stolen property on his person. That, along with the other circumstances is good enough evidence that he stole it.

As for how she got the money, she could say she saved it. She could say she was an adult entertainer. Honestly I don't think the judge will even ask or give a damm. He stole the money. You can't rob someone just because they got whatever it is you take illegally, you can ask OJ about that.

As for that link I asked ya'll to consider that is a case where a body was found with womens underwear on, it was assumed to be a woman and proven by DNA to be biologically male. I think there is a better chance than not it's the body of some missing transwoman or the other.

BLKGSXR
05-31-2009, 06:10 PM
Stole $1500 and allot of my stuff.... If I were in that position I would want to shoot him. Stealing my rent money.... fuck that.

I think you should really look at the possibility of suing him. It takes much less evidence to win a lawsuit. If you can get your land lord to testify that the belongings stolen were yours and he saw the boy with them that could be enough. I mean heck you didn't sell them to the boy.

As for CPD they don't give a fuck about one of us getting stole from or anything else. Would that we just all up'n died they would not care. If we were found floating in the river, they would test to see if we were a missing white woman, then stop caring once our genes said we were male. (think I'm full of it? Consider this (http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=296690).)

good luck suing a juvenile. Im sure you have have that money deposited in your account by noon. N

A 17 year old is not a juvenile in the state of Illinois...as we all found out thanks to R.Kelly. As for the evidence she said she saw him, and her landlord saw him with the stolen property on his person. That, along with the other circumstances is good enough evidence that he stole it.

As for how she got the money, she could say she saved it. She could say she was an adult entertainer. Honestly I don't think the judge will even ask or give a damm. He stole the money. You can't rob someone just because they got whatever it is you take illegally, you can ask OJ about that.

As for that link I asked ya'll to consider that is a case where a body was found with womens underwear on, it was assumed to be a woman and proven by DNA to be biologically male. I think there is a better chance than not it's the body of some missing transwoman or the other.sometime I dont believe you reread your posts.....17 is very close to being an adult now the federal government isnt giving any leeway,if they can convict a kid of 14 yrs old to 20+ yrs what is the difference to do so to a 17 year old...after Vanessa's posts yesterday how she wanted blood and pain to how you state a Juvenile im in favor of letting the kid go because of what she wishes she could do to him is more severe than any material object that well it was so foolish it could end your life in the US Premeditated Assault isnt taken likely....Especially since she left a papertrail...Internet.-just my 2 cents

TsVanessa69
05-31-2009, 06:23 PM
Stole $1500 and allot of my stuff.... If I were in that position I would want to shoot him. Stealing my rent money.... fuck that.

I think you should really look at the possibility of suing him. It takes much less evidence to win a lawsuit. If you can get your land lord to testify that the belongings stolen were yours and he saw the boy with them that could be enough. I mean heck you didn't sell them to the boy.

As for CPD they don't give a fuck about one of us getting stole from or anything else. Would that we just all up'n died they would not care. If we were found floating in the river, they would test to see if we were a missing white woman, then stop caring once our genes said we were male. (think I'm full of it? Consider this (http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=296690).)

When I said the exact same thing I got made out to be a guy that hates transgendered individuals. Thanks Brenda for help making my point. The first thing I said was take him to court, or hell even judge Mathis and get some publicity from it. Side note with the CPD they also don't care if your any other minority. Which I also said about the black guy
Let me break it down nice and easy: BLACK male robs transexual, Black man ALREADY has a criminal record at 17. Black man get his ass kicked and a broken leg. Other Black gangbangers did the job. Will the Chicago police give a fuck?????

TsVanessa69
05-31-2009, 06:28 PM
I will say it is strange that the foster dad is kinda unwilling to step up and be the authority figure in this situation.

I don't think the kid is a gang banger, (how would I know!), but it's weird for a foster dad to basically admit yeah I think the kid stole your stuff, but he still won't do anything about it, wants Vanessa to let the police handle it, and won't open his door to be interviewed by the PD.

Sounds like he's scared of somebody, or dodging responsibility.
My point exactly. Then when he follows up with me to see what the police are gonna do its like he doesnt want the kid around, but doent want to loose the check, so he's thinking the easy way out would be for the kid to be in police custady. In the end SOMETHING has to happen to this kid so that he gets the message not to fuck with ANYBODY.

TsVanessa69
05-31-2009, 06:33 PM
You don't even know if he is the actual person that did it. And if you do, is his word against yours. In your words "i had to suck dick and have my dick sucked for that money" , so you committed crime to make the money, and crime was committed against you and the money was taken, charge it to the game. You brought crime to the neighborhood just like he did. You claim the hood will be better when he is gone, If I am a prospective buyer and I know we have a string of burglaries on one block, and prostitution on the other, im buying my house else where.

Dee I gotta thank you too. Cuz man, last night everything I said like that got twisted. Everything.... to make me mannnn lol. I held my tongue a lot.\

Lol, When they say "there goes the neighborhood" they not just talking about the gay black men and the foster children, they talking about the half black and half puerto rican transsexual activist, social worker, show girl, escort, prostitutes who move there too.
Im 100% Puerto Rican, and I am active in my neighborhood just like everybody else on my block. And I may OCASIONALLY escort, but I am not a prostitute. But I notice certain people on here want to twist it around and make the theif to be the poor victim. Well just so you know I ask black ts and black men what did they think should be done, and as they pointed out, the police don't give a fuck about the transexual or the black statistic. They said have that bitch beat, then piss on him.

TsVanessa69
05-31-2009, 06:38 PM
Change up your routine if possible, get long metal bolts or even a piece of wood to put in the window slide to prevent them being forced open, call an alarm company and buy stickers to put on your doors & windows, make a sign to put in the break-in window that says your apartment has a camera and/or is boobytrapped , harass your landlord mercilessly since you've been a tenant for years and are getting robbed by another tenant.
Thats the crazy part. A tenant being robbed by another tenant with the landlord living upstairs! Is that not some crazy ass shit? I cant change my routine, I go to work EVERY day just like MOST people do. I just want those who need to be held accountable to take responsibility for their actions. NO MATTER WHAT IT TAKES.

TsVanessa69
05-31-2009, 06:47 PM
You know sometimes, you can do the right thing in this situation.Go to the landlord go the Police, fill in the right forms , take all sorts of security precautions try and be reasonable with the person affecting your life but what is going on carries on.

Iam talking about where I live now, but sometimes the Police either can't or won't help you. And if they do the punishment is completely inadequate. Sometimes even going to the Police can inflame things even more. It's all very well saying don't do something else but the way lefties have infected our justice system sometimes people do have to take the law into your own hands. Should you have to? no .Is it acceptable? no because sometimes the wrong person gets his legs black and dekered And that means you put yourself at risk from more violence or a prison term.But sometimes you just can't accept the situation.

I once was involved in something that left a very bad taste in my mouth but this person had been warned , the Police couldn't help and I couldn't sit back and watch what was going on. Initally I was angry for going down a level but frankly Iam angry with the justice system and society in general making me feel and others feel we had no choice. My advice is not to do anything in the heat of the moment,make sure the only witness's are people who are in on it, as few people are involved or know as possible and get yourself a cast iron albi. Because if you have reported it to the cops and anything happens to the little shit ,the men in illfitting suits will be wanting to talk to you and sweat you out.

I get your point. And the thing is those stepping up to do the job wouldnt be people in the polices mind that even deal with transexuals. How many gang-related deaths go uninvestigated in Chicago? An asswhoopin of a black male by other black males is the least of the Chicago Police Departments worries, just like its obvious me getting robbed is not. So being that I have a job and I am employed in 2 night clubs, I'll be abled to prove where I was. He's a probem child, he doesnt go to schol, he smokes weed and steals. Getting his ass whooped is NOT something that the police would even pay any mind to.

TsVanessa69
05-31-2009, 06:53 PM
Stole $1500 and allot of my stuff.... If I were in that position I would want to shoot him. Stealing my rent money.... fuck that.

I think you should really look at the possibility of suing him. It takes much less evidence to win a lawsuit. If you can get your land lord to testify that the belongings stolen were yours and he saw the boy with them that could be enough. I mean heck you didn't sell them to the boy.

As for CPD they don't give a fuck about one of us getting stole from or anything else. Would that we just all up'n died they would not care. If we were found floating in the river, they would test to see if we were a missing white woman, then stop caring once our genes said we were male. (think I'm full of it? Consider this (http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=296690).)

good luck suing a juvenile. Im sure you have have that money deposited in your account by noon. N

A 17 year old is not a juvenile in the state of Illinois...as we all found out thanks to R.Kelly. As for the evidence she said she saw him, and her landlord saw him with the stolen property on his person. That, along with the other circumstances is good enough evidence that he stole it.

As for how she got the money, she could say she saved it. She could say she was an adult entertainer. Honestly I don't think the judge will even ask or give a damm. He stole the money. You can't rob someone just because they got whatever it is you take illegally, you can ask OJ about that.

As for that link I asked ya'll to consider that is a case where a body was found with womens underwear on, it was assumed to be a woman and proven by DNA to be biologically male. I think there is a better chance than not it's the body of some missing transwoman or the other.

I have pay stubs from my job and Niteflirt that surpass the amount stolen.
I pay taxes just like everybody else. I hate how people think because I'm a transexual the only thing I'm good for is escorting. I will admit I did turn a few clients to actually use the money to finance my Paseo Boricua Pageant. We didnt get alot of sponsors this year, and I didn't want my girls and guys to miss out on a beautiful expierence. So I personally took on the responsibility to make shure the pageant would go on.

deee757
05-31-2009, 09:07 PM
Stole $1500 and allot of my stuff.... If I were in that position I would want to shoot him. Stealing my rent money.... fuck that.

I think you should really look at the possibility of suing him. It takes much less evidence to win a lawsuit. If you can get your land lord to testify that the belongings stolen were yours and he saw the boy with them that could be enough. I mean heck you didn't sell them to the boy.

As for CPD they don't give a fuck about one of us getting stole from or anything else. Would that we just all up'n died they would not care. If we were found floating in the river, they would test to see if we were a missing white woman, then stop caring once our genes said we were male. (think I'm full of it? Consider this (http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=296690).)

good luck suing a juvenile. Im sure you have have that money deposited in your account by noon. N

A 17 year old is not a juvenile in the state of Illinois...as we all found out thanks to R.Kelly. As for the evidence she said she saw him, and her landlord saw him with the stolen property on his person. That, along with the other circumstances is good enough evidence that he stole it.

As for how she got the money, she could say she saved it. She could say she was an adult entertainer. Honestly I don't think the judge will even ask or give a damm. He stole the money. You can't rob someone just because they got whatever it is you take illegally, you can ask OJ about that.

As for that link I asked ya'll to consider that is a case where a body was found with womens underwear on, it was assumed to be a woman and proven by DNA to be biologically male. I think there is a better chance than not it's the body of some missing transwoman or the other.

So he is not a juvenile, so he is an adult foster child?, lol Is still hear say, what is to stop her from saying the boy too 3000 dollars? you cant just come to court with an amount and expect the law to do something about it because of your testimony alone.

deee757
05-31-2009, 09:07 PM
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deee757
05-31-2009, 09:08 PM
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TsVanessa69
05-31-2009, 09:13 PM
Stole $1500 and allot of my stuff.... If I were in that position I would want to shoot him. Stealing my rent money.... fuck that.

I think you should really look at the possibility of suing him. It takes much less evidence to win a lawsuit. If you can get your land lord to testify that the belongings stolen were yours and he saw the boy with them that could be enough. I mean heck you didn't sell them to the boy.

As for CPD they don't give a fuck about one of us getting stole from or anything else. Would that we just all up'n died they would not care. If we were found floating in the river, they would test to see if we were a missing white woman, then stop caring once our genes said we were male. (think I'm full of it? Consider this (http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=296690).)

good luck suing a juvenile. Im sure you have have that money deposited in your account by noon. N

A 17 year old is not a juvenile in the state of Illinois...as we all found out thanks to R.Kelly. As for the evidence she said she saw him, and her landlord saw him with the stolen property on his person. That, along with the other circumstances is good enough evidence that he stole it.

As for how she got the money, she could say she saved it. She could say she was an adult entertainer. Honestly I don't think the judge will even ask or give a damm. He stole the money. You can't rob someone just because they got whatever it is you take illegally, you can ask OJ about that.

As for that link I asked ya'll to consider that is a case where a body was found with womens underwear on, it was assumed to be a woman and proven by DNA to be biologically male. I think there is a better chance than not it's the body of some missing transwoman or the other.


So he is not a juvenile, so he is an adult foster child?, lol Is still hear say, what is to stop her from saying the boy too 3000 dollars? you cant just come to court with an amount and expect the law to do something about it because of your testimony alone.
I have receipts proving the value of the items he stole.
Yea I could be a bitch and lie about the amounts he stole, but what he did was bad enough. The $250 was a laser treatment, and the $1200 was a rent payment.

giovanni_hotel
05-31-2009, 09:18 PM
I get where jjhill is coming from, but in this particular case I'm feeling Vanessa's situation more!!

Let's step back for a minute, if Vanessa was truly a hothead and bent on doing this kid some violent intent, IMO it would have happened already.

She's mostly venting her anger and frustration, and still may feel she has little alternative but to retaliate in the future, but let's not convict her for something she hasn't done yet.

Trust me, if a kid is willing to jack your apartment, it's not that much of a reach for him to jack you on your way home from work either.

Best case scenario might be that this punk kid robs another resident in the neighborhood to solidify her case against him.

It's hard to get a visual on this kid, how big he is and what he looks like, but if I were there assuming the kid isn't banging, I'd go talk to him and his step father on Vanessa's behalf and do all I could, if it's still in their apartment, to get some of her merchandise back.

I don't have a violent criminal record and haven't been in a physical altercation since I was 19, but that doesn't mean there isn't an opportunity to confront this kid/foster parent and have this situation resolved, more or less like adults.


Number One, I don't want Vanessa to lose her apartment because of some nonsense with this kid.

Number Two, I don't want to see law enforcement take the wrong side in this case because of something that happens to the perpetrator.

Now, if something does happen to him, I hope you never go into any details about it on HA, Vanessa, just let us know if it's still a problem for you or not.

deee757
05-31-2009, 09:20 PM
Stole $1500 and allot of my stuff.... If I were in that position I would want to shoot him. Stealing my rent money.... fuck that.

I think you should really look at the possibility of suing him. It takes much less evidence to win a lawsuit. If you can get your land lord to testify that the belongings stolen were yours and he saw the boy with them that could be enough. I mean heck you didn't sell them to the boy.

As for CPD they don't give a fuck about one of us getting stole from or anything else. Would that we just all up'n died they would not care. If we were found floating in the river, they would test to see if we were a missing white woman, then stop caring once our genes said we were male. (think I'm full of it? Consider this (http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=296690).)

good luck suing a juvenile. Im sure you have have that money deposited in your account by noon. N

A 17 year old is not a juvenile in the state of Illinois...as we all found out thanks to R.Kelly. As for the evidence she said she saw him, and her landlord saw him with the stolen property on his person. That, along with the other circumstances is good enough evidence that he stole it.

As for how she got the money, she could say she saved it. She could say she was an adult entertainer. Honestly I don't think the judge will even ask or give a damm. He stole the money. You can't rob someone just because they got whatever it is you take illegally, you can ask OJ about that.

As for that link I asked ya'll to consider that is a case where a body was found with womens underwear on, it was assumed to be a woman and proven by DNA to be biologically male. I think there is a better chance than not it's the body of some missing transwoman or the other.

I have pay stubs from my job and Niteflirt that surpass the amount stolen.
I pay taxes just like everybody else. I hate how people think because I'm a transexual the only thing I'm good for is escorting. I will admit I did turn a few clients to actually use the money to finance my Paseo Boricua Pageant. We didnt get alot of sponsors this year, and I didn't want my girls and guys to miss out on a beautiful expierence. So I personally took on the responsibility to make shure the pageant would go on.

I dont know your financial situation, my comments were based on things u said. you said, and I quote, "I had to suck dick and have my dick sucked for that money" Now you are contradicting yourself

TsVanessa69
05-31-2009, 09:45 PM
Stole $1500 and allot of my stuff.... If I were in that position I would want to shoot him. Stealing my rent money.... fuck that.

I think you should really look at the possibility of suing him. It takes much less evidence to win a lawsuit. If you can get your land lord to testify that the belongings stolen were yours and he saw the boy with them that could be enough. I mean heck you didn't sell them to the boy.

As for CPD they don't give a fuck about one of us getting stole from or anything else. Would that we just all up'n died they would not care. If we were found floating in the river, they would test to see if we were a missing white woman, then stop caring once our genes said we were male. (think I'm full of it? Consider this (http://www.dailyherald.com/story/?id=296690).)

good luck suing a juvenile. Im sure you have have that money deposited in your account by noon. N

A 17 year old is not a juvenile in the state of Illinois...as we all found out thanks to R.Kelly. As for the evidence she said she saw him, and her landlord saw him with the stolen property on his person. That, along with the other circumstances is good enough evidence that he stole it.

As for how she got the money, she could say she saved it. She could say she was an adult entertainer. Honestly I don't think the judge will even ask or give a damm. He stole the money. You can't rob someone just because they got whatever it is you take illegally, you can ask OJ about that.

As for that link I asked ya'll to consider that is a case where a body was found with womens underwear on, it was assumed to be a woman and proven by DNA to be biologically male. I think there is a better chance than not it's the body of some missing transwoman or the other.

I have pay stubs from my job and Niteflirt that surpass the amount stolen.
I pay taxes just like everybody else. I hate how people think because I'm a transexual the only thing I'm good for is escorting. I will admit I did turn a few clients to actually use the money to finance my Paseo Boricua Pageant. We didnt get alot of sponsors this year, and I didn't want my girls and guys to miss out on a beautiful expierence. So I personally took on the responsibility to make shure the pageant would go on.

I dont know your financial situation, my comments were based on things u said. you said, and I quote, "I had to suck dick and have my dick sucked for that money" Now you are contradicting yourself
I did turn a few clients, but EVERYBODY on here knows I have a 9-5 job, I do Niteflirt and am a show girl. I just helped open a new club here in Chicago. Maybe i should have worded it correctly, but if you are so in the mix as to reply to every post made in this thread, you would have paid more attention to what I have been saying the whole thread.
SO:
Yes
I have a 9-5 job as a Peer Educatot/HIV Prevention Counselor and Tester, certified by the American Red Cross, and The City of Chicago Department of Health.
I am a showgirl and cast member at Cattle Call and Curcuit Nite Club, Noche Loca.
I work doing cam shows on Niteflirt.
All verifiable income, with pay stubs and taxes are paid.
So to sit here and think that all I do is turn tricks all day, you are so sadly mistaken.
I am educated, employed, and a part of normal every day society.
Turning a trick here and there, funds things like the Paseo Boricua Pageant and other events in the communitys that I am involved in. It also pays for the custom made costumes that I wear on stage, which I happen to like the best quality fabrics, Swarovski Crystals, made by the top costume designers in Chicago. My wardrobe and shoe collection are known around the country.

TsVanessa69
05-31-2009, 10:21 PM
I get where jjhill is coming from, but in this particular case I'm feeling Vanessa's situation more!!

Let's step back for a minute, if Vanessa was truly a hothead and bent on doing this kid some violent intent, IMO it would have happened already.

She's mostly venting her anger and frustration, and still may feel she has little alternative but to retaliate in the future, but let's not convict her for something she hasn't done yet.

Trust me, if a kid is willing to jack your apartment, it's not that much of a reach for him to jack you on your way home from work either.

Best case scenario might be that this punk kid robs another resident in the neighborhood to solidify her case against him.

It's hard to get a visual on this kid, how big he is and what he looks like, but if I were there assuming the kid isn't banging, I'd go talk to him and his step father on Vanessa's behalf and do all I could, if it's still in their apartment, to get some of her merchandise back.

I don't have a violent criminal record and haven't been in a physical altercation since I was 19, but that doesn't mean there isn't an opportunity to confront this kid/foster parent and have this situation resolved, more or less like adults.


Number One, I don't want Vanessa to lose her apartment because of some nonsense with this kid.

Number Two, I don't want to see law enforcement take the wrong side in this case because of something that happens to the perpetrator.

Now, if something does happen to him, I hope you never go into any details about it on HA, Vanessa, just let us know if it's still a problem for you or not.
Lets just say he will be taken care of by his peers! :wink: :wink:

deee757
05-31-2009, 10:52 PM
I have a 9-5 job as a Peer Educatot/HIV Prevention Counselor and Tester, certified by the American Red Cross, and The City of Chicago Department of Health.
I am a showgirl and cast member at Cattle Call and Curcuit Nite Club, Noche Loca.
I work doing cam shows on Niteflirt.
All verifiable income, with pay stubs and taxes are paid.
So to sit here and think that all I do is turn tricks all day, you are so sadly mistaken.
I am educated, employed, and a part of normal every day society.
Turning a trick here and there, funds things like the Paseo Boricua Pageant and other events in the communitys that I am involved in. It also pays for the custom made costumes that I wear on stage, which I happen to like the best quality fabrics, Swarovski Crystals, made by the top costume designers in Chicago. My wardrobe and shoe collection are known around the country.[/quote]

Please scroll up and tell me where I implied thats what you do. And with all of these sources of income why would put your safety and freedom on the line to turn tricks? Plus with all this income, Im sure u have a bank account, why are utilizing large amounts of cash and the currency exchange instead of writing a check to pay your bills? 60 percent of the crime wave is eliminated by better decision making. Wheres your ADT security system? You have all these extravagant collections with no security system? Wheres your renters insurance, you would have had a check cut to you with in three days. And maybe its not a good idea to have your clothing collection known world wide. Lil larry from the back yard is not the only person that can come in your windows.

deee757
06-01-2009, 02:59 AM
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