Can Someone tell me what a faggot is?

[deee757]

I'm not gay, and I am not into ts girls, so i don't want to offend anyone. But i hear this term thrown around up here a lot, and I just need a clear definition of what a faggot is. Thanks guys, lol

[Cubpocalypse]

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/faggot

[lorddigitalhighfixer]

If you want a clear definition look in the mirror

[deee757]

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/faggot

fag⋅got
2  /ˈfægət/ Show Spelled Pronunciation [fag-uht] Show IPA
–noun
Slang: Disparaging and Offensive. a male homosexual.

Which leaves me even more confused?

[Alyssa87]

not into ts girls? why do you visit HA?

[trish]

So what is a male homosexual who is not disparaging and offensive? :)

[Alyssa87]

So what is a male homosexual who is not disparaging and offensive? :)

a rarity

[Cubpocalypse]

So what is a male homosexual who is not disparaging and offensive? :)

In a coma

[deee757]

If you want a clear definition look in the mirror

"I'm in the local cacophonist society, and participate in general anarchy a la Remi Gaillard http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqOBR_Xbw2I

guess it's not really charity, unless you count surprise dance swarms inside subway trains and harassing police a noble cause. I also donate all ad revenue from a hollywood movie streaming site to my community hacker space which is also a dropin TG shelter at night, because there isn't one in my city."

Lol Oh really....

[deee757]

not into ts girls? why do you visit HA?\

Found some forum responses while searching for articles on the so called pregnant man one day. Been hooked ever since (plus the girl on girl with no strap on is pretty interesting)

[flabbybody]

if a Brit says he wants to go out for a fag it means he needs a smoke.

lead to some confusion in NYC bars when Bloomberg banned smoking a few years bac

[deee757]

if a Brit says he wants to go out for a fag it means he needs a smoke.

lead to some confusion in NYC bars when Bloomberg banned smoking a few years bac

Lol, now that's funny, lol

[dgs925]

I am not into ts girls

You need to answer Alyssa's question, since others have been nice enough to answer yours. You aren't into tgirls? Then why come here?

I think you are just full of shit, maybe not even aware of your own feelings.

[Alyssa87]

not into ts girls? why do you visit HA?\

Found some forum responses while searching for articles on the so called pregnant man one day. Been hooked ever since (plus the girl on girl with no strap on is pretty interesting)

sounds like a good excuse for the friends and family.

but not to people in the know.

just suck a dick and get it over with. :P

[deee757]

I am not into ts girls

You need to answer Alyssa's question, since others have been nice enough to answer yours. You aren't into tgirls? Then why come here?

I think you are just full of shit, maybe not even aware of your own feelings.

I did, scroll up, and i still could be full of shi........

[Alyssa87]

Susi's first read. awww

[deee757]

not into ts girls? why do you visit HA?\

Found some forum responses while searching for articles on the so called pregnant man one day. Been hooked ever since (plus the girl on girl with no strap on is pretty interesting)

sounds like a good excuse for the friends and family.

but not to people in the know.

just suck a dick and get it over with. :P

Lol, i think that's for "faggots" lol

[deee757]

Susi's first read. awww

Lol, she couldn't resist

[Jericho]

Can Someone tell me what a faggot is?


A faggot is a kind of meatball.

Faggots are a traditional dish in the UK, especially the Midlands of England.

It is made from meat off-cuts and offal, especially pork. A faggot is traditionally made from pig heart, liver and fatty belly meat or bacon minced together, with herbs added for flavouring and sometimes breadcrumbs.

The mixture is shaped in the hand into balls, wrapped round with caul fat (the omentum membrane from the pig's abdomen), and baked.

I've often slowly chewed a faggot, savouring it's meaty juiciness! :shrug

[archineer]

Faggot's are meat balls made from mince beef and onions. Eat with gravy, mashed potatoes and veg of your choice.....

[deee757]

Can Someone tell me what a faggot is?


A faggot is a kind of meatball.

Faggots are a traditional dish in the UK, especially the Midlands of England.

It is made from meat off-cuts and offal, especially pork. A faggot is traditionally made from pig heart, liver and fatty belly meat or bacon minced together, with herbs added for flavouring and sometimes breadcrumbs.

The mixture is shaped in the hand into balls, wrapped round with caul fat (the omentum membrane from the pig's abdomen), and baked.

I've often slowly chewed a faggot, savouring it's meaty juiciness! :shrug

I think you posted that on purpose

[Jericho]

Can Someone tell me what a faggot is?


A faggot is a kind of meatball.

Faggots are a traditional dish in the UK, especially the Midlands of England.

It is made from meat off-cuts and offal, especially pork. A faggot is traditionally made from pig heart, liver and fatty belly meat or bacon minced together, with herbs added for flavouring and sometimes breadcrumbs.

The mixture is shaped in the hand into balls, wrapped round with caul fat (the omentum membrane from the pig's abdomen), and baked.

I've often slowly chewed a faggot, savouring it's meaty juiciness! :shrug

I think you posted that on purpose


I always do! 8)

[Cubpocalypse]

smiling i am just bored

Why don't you hit the chat room then? :)

[Cubpocalypse]

Well, it's only me there. No drama here mama.

[Cubpocalypse]

Wha wha what? Who would complain about that??? My only complaint about that was when you'd leave. ;)

[Cubpocalypse]

You always had a lovely smile. And you'd make me smile by going on your cam in the chatroom. :peanutbutter

[jaycanuck]

Here. I think this may answer your question.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ph6zseLoK88

[Trowa]

To be serious. I've always heard it used in the context of stripping a man of his "manhood" or "machismo". This is atributed to homosexual men because some of them act very feminine but do not see themselves as women. So it's primarily used for gays. Anything not manly but done by men could be considered "faggoty". This isn't used to describe women at all, and it just doesn't sound right. It's kind of like calling a woman "asshole" or "motherfucker" it just doesn't register. IMO though faggot as it has been used in my life is rarely associated with being gay at all.

[phobun]

I'm not gay, and I am not into ts girls, so i don't want to offend anyone. But i hear this term thrown around up here a lot, and I just need a clear definition of what a faggot is. Thanks guys, lol

Dude you sound like a regular member of HA Forum:

- You're not gay.
- You're not into TS girls but you like to look at pictures of their cocks.
- You don't know what a faggot is.

[GIRUGAMESH]

I'm not gay

lol

[CindySin]

I don't know why you are all picking on him.
he might be telling the truth.

I am not gay or bi.
I just happen to think that sucking my best friends cock feels good.
and nothing is more beautiful than a woman with a cock (big or small)
and unicorns kick ass.
but we are not gay or even bi.


incase anyone is confused, YES, I am being sarcastic.

[giovanni_hotel]

[quote=deee757]

Dude you sound like a regular member of HA Forum:

- You're not gay.
- You're not into TS girls but you like to look at pictures of their cocks.
- You don't know what a faggot is.


LOL!!

THink of it this way, if all the girls were post-op TGs, how many of the 'straight' male members of HA would still be here?

I really don't like being called a cockhound, ( first time I even heard that word was when Mimi dropped it on me!!) 'cause I don't view myself that way at all, but I can admit the chemistry for me begins with the thought of a hot girl with a cock.

(ALthough I do admit some of these ladies would probably still get my attention post-op).

Still dig GGs. DOn't get sex vibes off guys.
But here I am, somewhere but not quite, close to the middle.

[deee757]

Is this a form of "straight" bashing? Lol, if that's the case....sorry I "came out"

[callahac]

[quote=deee757]

Dude you sound like a regular member of HA Forum:

- You're not gay.
- You're not into TS girls but you like to look at pictures of their cocks.
- You don't know what a faggot is.


LOL!!

THink of it this way, if all the girls were post-op TGs, how many of the 'straight' male members of HA would still be here?

I really don't like being called a cockhound, ( first time I even heard that word was when Mimi dropped it on me!!) 'cause I don't view myself that way at all, but I can admit the chemistry for me begins with the thought of a hot girl with a cock.

(ALthough I do admit some of these ladies would probably still get my attention post-op).

Still dig GGs. DOn't get sex vibes off guys.
But here I am, somewhere but not quite, close to the middle.

If all the girls went post op, I think HA would be out of business. The "straight" guys would move on to gay, bi, or as a last resort strap on sites. Everyone here needs to get comfortable with themselves here. Newsflash if you like Tgirls you are not straight. By pure definition you are into homosexual sex as the girls here have the same sex organ as you. Everyone has different things that turn them on. Some guys like blondes, some like brunettes, some like busty gals some like petite girls. Some gay guys like bears, muscle dudes. Some like twinks or fem boys. Shemales would just be another category of different body types that gay guys like, if we are being honest here.

As for me, I like shemales, twinkie guys, and petite chicks.

[deee757]

[quote=deee757]

Dude you sound like a regular member of HA Forum:

- You're not gay.
- You're not into TS girls but you like to look at pictures of their cocks.
- You don't know what a faggot is.


LOL!!

THink of it this way, if all the girls were post-op TGs, how many of the 'straight' male members of HA would still be here?

I really don't like being called a cockhound, ( first time I even heard that word was when Mimi dropped it on me!!) 'cause I don't view myself that way at all, but I can admit the chemistry for me begins with the thought of a hot girl with a cock.

(ALthough I do admit some of these ladies would probably still get my attention post-op).

Still dig GGs. DOn't get sex vibes off guys.
But here I am, somewhere but not quite, close to the middle.

If all the girls went post op, I think HA would be out of business. The "straight" guys would move on to gay, bi, or as a last resort strap on sites. Everyone here needs to get comfortable with themselves here. Newsflash if you like Tgirls you are not straight. By pure definition you are into homosexual sex as the girls here have the same sex organ as you. Everyone has different things that turn them on. Some guys like blondes, some like brunettes, some like busty gals some like petite girls. Some gay guys like bears, muscle dudes. Some like twinks or fem boys. Shemales would just be another category of different body types that gay guys like, if we are being honest here.

As for me, I like shemales, twinkie guys, and petite chicks.

To each is own, I dont like men, or ts, and dont want to see anybody's dick but my own. But if im watching porn I would rather see TS with a girl, than Male with a girl. Is kind of an extension to the girl on girl thing. But if that makes me gay, than I can be gay. I just not into what most of the people up here are into

[tracy]

Everyone on this forum (including the shemales) is considered a faggot in the outside world :(

[callahac]

[quote=deee757]

Dude you sound like a regular member of HA Forum:

- You're not gay.
- You're not into TS girls but you like to look at pictures of their cocks.
- You don't know what a faggot is.


LOL!!

THink of it this way, if all the girls were post-op TGs, how many of the 'straight' male members of HA would still be here?

I really don't like being called a cockhound, ( first time I even heard that word was when Mimi dropped it on me!!) 'cause I don't view myself that way at all, but I can admit the chemistry for me begins with the thought of a hot girl with a cock.

(ALthough I do admit some of these ladies would probably still get my attention post-op).

Still dig GGs. DOn't get sex vibes off guys.
But here I am, somewhere but not quite, close to the middle.

If all the girls went post op, I think HA would be out of business. The "straight" guys would move on to gay, bi, or as a last resort strap on sites. Everyone here needs to get comfortable with themselves here. Newsflash if you like Tgirls you are not straight. By pure definition you are into homosexual sex as the girls here have the same sex organ as you. Everyone has different things that turn them on. Some guys like blondes, some like brunettes, some like busty gals some like petite girls. Some gay guys like bears, muscle dudes. Some like twinks or fem boys. Shemales would just be another category of different body types that gay guys like, if we are being honest here.

As for me, I like shemales, twinkie guys, and petite chicks.

To each is own, I dont like men, or ts, and dont want to see anybody's dick but my own. But if im watching porn I would rather see TS with a girl, than Male with a girl. Is kind of an extension to the girl on girl thing. But if that makes me gay, than I can be gay. I just not into what most of the people up here are into

I don't know man, I think thee protesteth too much. Try hooking up with a guy some time turn the lights off if that makes you more comfortable. I think you might like it.

[tracy]

To each is own, I dont like men, or ts, and dont want to see anybody's dick but my own. But if im watching porn I would rather see TS with a girl, than Male with a girl. Is kind of an extension to the girl on girl thing. But if that makes me gay, than I can be gay. I just not into what most of the people up here are into
I reminds me exactly when i started 8)

[jaycanuck]

[quote=deee757]

Dude you sound like a regular member of HA Forum:

- You're not gay.
- You're not into TS girls but you like to look at pictures of their cocks.
- You don't know what a faggot is.


LOL!!

THink of it this way, if all the girls were post-op TGs, how many of the 'straight' male members of HA would still be here?

I really don't like being called a cockhound, ( first time I even heard that word was when Mimi dropped it on me!!) 'cause I don't view myself that way at all, but I can admit the chemistry for me begins with the thought of a hot girl with a cock.

(ALthough I do admit some of these ladies would probably still get my attention post-op).

Still dig GGs. DOn't get sex vibes off guys.
But here I am, somewhere but not quite, close to the middle.

If all the girls went post op, I think HA would be out of business. The "straight" guys would move on to gay, bi, or as a last resort strap on sites. Everyone here needs to get comfortable with themselves here. Newsflash if you like Tgirls you are not straight. By pure definition you are into homosexual sex as the girls here have the same sex organ as you. Everyone has different things that turn them on. Some guys like blondes, some like brunettes, some like busty gals some like petite girls. Some gay guys like bears, muscle dudes. Some like twinks or fem boys. Shemales would just be another category of different body types that gay guys like, if we are being honest here.

As for me, I like shemales, twinkie guys, and petite chicks.


Dude, you keep coming on here harping that this guy likes "x" he's gay. We get it...you want everyone to "come out and be honest" and that you like girls, tgirls and guys and that your wife is fine with it.

I have an idea, leave people to believe what they want to believe. Let them be straight, gay, bi or all of the above. Quit labeling.

[trish]

Trish’s Word Dominatrix Dictionary: Where words are made to mean what I want them to mean. (Excerpt)

faggot –noun one who practices the art of faggotry.

faggotry –noun 1) The special art of discriminating between gay and straight.
-verb 2) To persistently deny the pronouncements of a faggot.

[callahac]

[quote=deee757]

Dude you sound like a regular member of HA Forum:

- You're not gay.
- You're not into TS girls but you like to look at pictures of their cocks.
- You don't know what a faggot is.


LOL!!

THink of it this way, if all the girls were post-op TGs, how many of the 'straight' male members of HA would still be here?

I really don't like being called a cockhound, ( first time I even heard that word was when Mimi dropped it on me!!) 'cause I don't view myself that way at all, but I can admit the chemistry for me begins with the thought of a hot girl with a cock.

(ALthough I do admit some of these ladies would probably still get my attention post-op).

Still dig GGs. DOn't get sex vibes off guys.
But here I am, somewhere but not quite, close to the middle.

If all the girls went post op, I think HA would be out of business. The "straight" guys would move on to gay, bi, or as a last resort strap on sites. Everyone here needs to get comfortable with themselves here. Newsflash if you like Tgirls you are not straight. By pure definition you are into homosexual sex as the girls here have the same sex organ as you. Everyone has different things that turn them on. Some guys like blondes, some like brunettes, some like busty gals some like petite girls. Some gay guys like bears, muscle dudes. Some like twinks or fem boys. Shemales would just be another category of different body types that gay guys like, if we are being honest here.

As for me, I like shemales, twinkie guys, and petite chicks.


Dude, you keep coming on here harping that this guy likes "x" he's gay. We get it...you want everyone to "come out and be honest" and that you like girls, tgirls and guys and that your wife is fine with it.

I have an idea, leave people to believe what they want to believe. Let them be straight, gay, bi or all of the above. Quit labeling.

Honestly dude, in the end I really don't care what people label themselves- to each his own. I just get tired of the people on here that either try to stir shit by starting an "Am I gay thread" or the other people that are gay bashers. So I stir a litte shit myself.

I really don't get it, whatever your reason for coming here, we all still have one thing in common we dig tgirls. So we should band together, since there are plenty of people in the truly straight world that would love to bash us.

[jaycanuck]

Paranoid much?

[MacShreach]

THink of it this way, if all the girls were post-op TGs, how many of the 'straight' male members of HA would still be here?


I would; I don't see what difference it would make. :shrug

However, somebody said that there are some 55,000 registered users on this forum, but I doubt if there are even a hundred regular posters.

What are the other 54,900 or so doing?

[MacShreach]

Everyone on this forum (including the shemales) is considered a faggot in the outside world :(

So what?

[deee757]

THink of it this way, if all the girls were post-op TGs, how many of the 'straight' male members of HA would still be here?


I would; I don't see what difference it would make. :shrug

However, somebody said that there are some 55,000 registered users on this forum, but I doubt if there are even a hundred regular posters.

What are the other 54,900 or so doing?

Is a very good point. If I wanted to hide my "ts obsession" it would be easier to just not post. The point of the thread was that Ts girls call the men up here faggots all the time. I was just wondering if the term extended beyond a derogatory term for a male homosexual. Males on this form don't call out Ts's who throw around derogatory comments unless they are directed directly at a specific male.

[SarahG]

Is this a form of "straight" bashing? Lol, if that's the case....sorry I "came out"

LOL, not everyone likes the breeders here.

[deee757]

Is this a form of "straight" bashing? Lol, if that's the case....sorry I "came out"

LOL, not everyone likes the breeders here.

Lol, is the story of my life, Im always the minority being "oppressed" lol

[SarahG]

If all the girls went post op, I think HA would be out of business.

Not convinced of that, because it takes time to get to the point of having SRS. As long as that happens, some people will be willing to make porn before getting it.

However, if early transitioning caught on globally and reforms made it easy to transition before puberty, and get SRS at 16... then yes, that would probably put an end to a lot of the TS porn since you can't use 16 y/o actresses in porn.

Would the genre die? Fuck no, look at all the guys who like the clubkids thread or tv threads... SOME would just move on to whatever else they can find w/ a cock under a skirt, even if its klinger or a guy at the scottish games.

[SarahG]

Everyone on this forum (including the shemales) is considered a faggot in the outside world :(

And if the idiots at the APA get their way, we'll all be considered mentally ill come time for the DSM5 to come out.

[SarahG]

Is this a form of "straight" bashing? Lol, if that's the case....sorry I "came out"

LOL, not everyone likes the breeders here.

Lol, is the story of my life, Im always the minority being "oppressed" lol

The world wouldn't be the world without the oppressors & oppressee's

[MacShreach]

Is this a form of "straight" bashing? Lol, if that's the case....sorry I "came out"

LOL, not everyone likes the breeders here.

Is that it? I wondered why some of them didn't like me.

[SarahG]

Is this a form of "straight" bashing? Lol, if that's the case....sorry I "came out"

LOL, not everyone likes the breeders here.

Is that it? I wondered why some of them didn't like me.

LMFAO

:lol:

Its true, in some places straights are not liked by gays.

There are dyke clubs I would readily fear walking past.

[MacShreach]

a guy at the scottish games.

Sarah, not to be pedantic (moi?) but they're called Highland Games, and I really wish you wouldn't keep giving these fuckers ideas.

Mind you, it might be funny to watch.....

[SarahG]

a guy at the scottish games.

Sarah, not to be pedantic (moi?) but they're called Highland Games, and I really wish you wouldn't keep giving these fuckers ideas.

Mind you, it might be funny to watch.....

LOL, sorry but 'over here, they call them "scottish games" rather than "highland games"

Not that Americans have ever cared about using language, especially English languages, properly.

[JeniferTS]

a faggot is whatever you want it to be.

[SarahG]

a faggot is whatever you want it to be.

Yea but around here some people say the same thing about words like straight, and transsexual.

Calling a chicken a duck doesn't make it a duck.

[Hara_Juku Tgirl]

lol True. I guess whatever makes them happy, SarahG! ;)

~Kisses.

HTG

[SarahG]

lol True. I guess whatever makes them happy, SarahG! ;)

~Kisses.

HTG

EXACTLY!

Now if only everyone else could come to that conclusion...

[JeniferTS]

a faggot is whatever you want it to be.

Yea but around here some people say the same thing about words like straight, and transsexual.

Calling a chicken a duck doesn't make it a duck.

if i honestly believe a chicken is a duck then it's a duck regardless what anybody else tells me..lol

i was really being sarcastic..

[fred41]

However, if early transitioning caught on globally and reforms made it easy to transition before puberty, and get SRS at 16...

I'm not so sure if making it easy to get SRS at 16 would be wise. It's not like getting a nose job or someone's rich mommy buying her daughter a pair of boobs for her H.S. graduation.

[SarahG]

However, if early transitioning caught on globally and reforms made it easy to transition before puberty, and get SRS at 16...

I'm not so sure if making it easy to get SRS at 16 would be wise. It's not like getting a nose job or someone's rich mommy buying her daughter a pair of boobs for her H.S. graduation.

If someone is otherwise fully transitioned by then, and has been for years, I don't get what the big deal is.

HRT is a sterilizing, irreversible process anyway. All keeping young patients from SRS does is increase the chances for HRT complications (liver damage, DVT, strokes, etc.).

As to "right before graduation," most HS graduates are 18 and would be able to get SRS right now -anyway- right before graduation. Depending on your DOB you could get SRS at the very beginning of your senior year of HS and spend the whole school year postop. The SoC does not put any real restrictions on "how young is too young for srs," they simply say that you have to be old enough to be an adult in your country. If you failed a year in K-12, you could, at least in theory, spend the last half of HS postop.

In the US the states determine who is an adult, not the feds- outside of alcohol purchases, people are always considered an adult by 18... sometimes earlier (its a gray range depending on what we're talking about).

[fred41]

However, if early transitioning caught on globally and reforms made it easy to transition before puberty, and get SRS at 16...

I'm not so sure if making it easy to get SRS at 16 would be wise. It's not like getting a nose job or someone's rich mommy buying her daughter a pair of boobs for her H.S. graduation.

If someone is otherwise fully transitioned by then, and has been for years, I don't get what the big deal is.

HRT is a sterilizing, irreversible process anyway. All keeping young patients from SRS does is increase the chances for HRT complications (liver damage, DVT, strokes, etc.).

As to "right before graduation," most HS graduates are 18 and would be able to get SRS right now -anyway- right before graduation. Depending on your DOB you could get SRS at the very beginning of your senior year of HS and spend the whole school year postop. The SoC does not put any real restrictions on "how young is too young for srs," they simply say that you have to be old enough to be an adult in your country.

In the US the states determine who is an adult, not the feds- outside of alcohol purchases, people are always considered an adult by 18... sometimes earlier (its a gray range depending on what we're talking about).

Because it's still complicated, major surgery...and I honestly believe that at 16 yrs. of age - many (not all ..granted)..kids-don't seriously know shit..about themselves or the world.So I would prefer that they be a little older - maybe just a couple of years. That's just my gut feeling on his.

[fred41]

..

[MacShreach]

a faggot is whatever you want it to be.

Yea but around here some people say the same thing about words like straight, and transsexual.

Calling a chicken a duck doesn't make it a duck.

if i honestly believe a chicken is a duck then it's a duck regardless what anybody else tells me..lol

i was really being sarcastic..

Damn you know, every time I see that avatar I find myself nodding in agreement with whatever you say...Okay, so it's a duck. Anyone got a problem with that?

:D :D

[SarahG]

However, if early transitioning caught on globally and reforms made it easy to transition before puberty, and get SRS at 16...

I'm not so sure if making it easy to get SRS at 16 would be wise. It's not like getting a nose job or someone's rich mommy buying her daughter a pair of boobs for her H.S. graduation.

If someone is otherwise fully transitioned by then, and has been for years, I don't get what the big deal is.

HRT is a sterilizing, irreversible process anyway. All keeping young patients from SRS does is increase the chances for HRT complications (liver damage, DVT, strokes, etc.).

As to "right before graduation," most HS graduates are 18 and would be able to get SRS right now -anyway- right before graduation. Depending on your DOB you could get SRS at the very beginning of your senior year of HS and spend the whole school year postop. The SoC does not put any real restrictions on "how young is too young for srs," they simply say that you have to be old enough to be an adult in your country.

In the US the states determine who is an adult, not the feds- outside of alcohol purchases, people are always considered an adult by 18... sometimes earlier (its a gray range depending on what we're talking about).

Because it's still complicated, major surgery...and I honestly believe that at 16 yrs. of age - many (not all ..granted)..kids-don't seriously know shit..about themselves or the world.So I would prefer that they be a little older - maybe just a couple of years. That's just my gut feeling on his.

So its a major surgery. Kids have to deal with major surgeries all the time, that's part of life. No one knows what they're going to be dealt in life, some people can live a long life without getting sick or needing surgeries, other people end up in the hospital all the time. Being trans is just one of those random things that, regardless how its caused, just happens sometimes.


kids-don't seriously know shit..about themselves,

That's the argument they've been using to prevent young access to hrt for decades. I have run into trans therapists who thought it should be illegal for anyone under 35 to START hrt because "anyone younger than that doesn't know who they are." Nothings worse than having people refuse to believe you have your own identity, even for children. Look at how many trans people have insisted their assigned-body was wrong from as far back as they can remember, only to have their parents go "aww, how cute" instead of getting them help.


I would prefer that they be a little older - maybe just a couple of years

I'm not talking about srs on 5 year olds here. You're really going to have a hard time showing that there will be a major change in thinking between a 16 year old trans person, and an 18 year old trans person (or between a 18 and a 20 year old trans person). A two year wait, just for formalities & protocols shake, really doesn't make a lot of sense. Some people are just ready for srs, regardless how old they are. If therapists don't have the power to take case by case situations into consideration, then you're really not helping any given specific patient, you're just doing whatever you suspect will help "the majority of the time" at the cost of the specific patients who have unique situations.

The reason why most young transitioners get SRS during college isn't because "they're older and know who they are," but because it takes so freaking long to go through the letter process, to save up for srs (since it isn't covered in most US healthcare), and thats only all the harder to do for busy students who are, like non-trans students, all the more likely to be BROKE college students working mim wage jobs.

[ed_jaxon]

if i go people start going and want to put rules . hate that .i can not even get naked there without someone complaining

Whoever chased you off needs to be dickslapped.

You still ain't topping me though.

and to Dee....relax on slapping labels on both yourself and others.

and to Sarah, props on the reference to the DSM-V although to your point, that is putting labels on folks to the nth degree.

[BLKGSXR]

if i go people start going and want to put rules . hate that .i can not even get naked there without someone complaining

Whoever chased you off needs to be dickslapped.

You still ain't topping me though.

and to Dee....relax on slapping labels on both yourself and others.

and to Sarah, props on the reference to the DSM-V although to your point, that is putting labels on folks to the nth degree.LMFAO!

[MacShreach]

kids-don't seriously know shit..about themselves,

That's the argument they've been using to prevent young access to hrt for decades. I have run into trans therapists who thought it should be illegal for anyone under 35 to START hrt because "anyone younger than that doesn't know who they are." .

In the UK, there is no minimum age per se. The clinicians will take a view on what is in the best interest of the young person, taking into account the young person's feelings and desires and-- and this is the important bit--after making an assessment of the person's ability to make a rational judgement. They will then proceed on that basis. The idea of a legal minimum age is obviously inappropriate; this is not cosmetic surgery, it is treatment for an innate intersexed condition, and in appropriate cases, treatment should be given as early as possible, given the serious potential effects of delay.

Now that is the policy, according to several professional bodies I have spoken to about this, but as to how effective that is in application, then it's pretty difficult to get any real understanding at all, which is very frustrating. Very, very little stats evidence is available and of course, individual cases simply cannot be discussed.

There is an increasing impetus to prescribe strong anti-androgens to delay the onset of male puberty, and while in some ways I welcome this, in others I don't; it would be a bad thing if it became a blanket policy and thus denied some young people the opportunity to go for GRS and then get on with their lives more quickly. On the other hand, in cases where an assessment is more difficult to make, it may "buy time" for more investigation.

[SarahG]

and to Sarah, props on the reference to the DSM-V although to your point, that is putting labels on folks to the nth degree.

Not really, they're going after the chasers next because they want to find a way to remove the legitimacy of anyone who may support trans people in getting reforms. I guess they see chasers as a threat to their establishment.

[MacShreach]

"But it wasn't the bullet that laid him to rest,

Was the low spark of high-heeled boys..."




Good man. Fine stoner stuff.

[Danielle Foxx]

A faggot, like nigger, dike, chink, cracker, honkie, etc... is a way of degrading someone. It's a bad term that speaks deep into someone's vulnerability. It's an attack to their existence and sexual preference.

To put it in simpler terms....

Faggot = Tranny chaser - JK ROFFL

[ed_jaxon]

and to Sarah, props on the reference to the DSM-V although to your point, that is putting labels on folks to the nth degree.

Not really, they're going after the chasers next because they want to find a way to remove the legitimacy of anyone who may support trans people in getting reforms. I guess they see chasers as a threat to their establishment.

That is fuckin' interesting and I will have my eyes opened for that.

Interesting how the DSM was framed to me in my courses. Thanks for the different point of view.

[Ben]

not into ts girls? why do you visit HA?

Exactly....

[russtafa]

it goes back to the spanish inquisition whe they threw people on the fires=gays were being persacuted then

[ed_jaxon]

Thus the definition of a fag being a bundle of kindling

[fred41]

kids-don't seriously know shit..about themselves,

That's the argument they've been using to prevent young access to hrt for decades. I have run into trans therapists who thought it should be illegal for anyone under 35 to START hrt because "anyone younger than that doesn't know who they are." .

In the UK, there is no minimum age per se. The clinicians will take a view on what is in the best interest of the young person, taking into account the young person's feelings and desires and-- and this is the important bit--after making an assessment of the person's ability to make a rational judgement. They will then proceed on that basis. The idea of a legal minimum age is obviously inappropriate; this is not cosmetic surgery, it is treatment for an innate intersexed condition, and in appropriate cases, treatment should be given as early as possible, given the serious potential effects of delay.

Now that is the policy, according to several professional bodies I have spoken to about this, but as to how effective that is in application, then it's pretty difficult to get any real understanding at all, which is very frustrating. Very, very little stats evidence is available and of course, individual cases simply cannot be discussed.

There is an increasing impetus to prescribe strong anti-androgens to delay the onset of male puberty, and while in some ways I welcome this, in others I don't; it would be a bad thing if it became a blanket policy and thus denied some young people the opportunity to go for GRS and then get on with their lives more quickly. On the other hand, in cases where an assessment is more difficult to make, it may "buy time" for more investigation.

If that's how it's done in the UK.. it seems reasonable at first glance. I'm not exactly sure what the guidelines here in the states are.My point is- not to make it soooo easy that teenagers could do it on impulse (and please don't tell me this couldn't happen)..and regret it for the rest of their lives.

[SarahG]

kids-don't seriously know shit..about themselves,

That's the argument they've been using to prevent young access to hrt for decades. I have run into trans therapists who thought it should be illegal for anyone under 35 to START hrt because "anyone younger than that doesn't know who they are." .

In the UK, there is no minimum age per se. The clinicians will take a view on what is in the best interest of the young person, taking into account the young person's feelings and desires and-- and this is the important bit--after making an assessment of the person's ability to make a rational judgement. They will then proceed on that basis. The idea of a legal minimum age is obviously inappropriate; this is not cosmetic surgery, it is treatment for an innate intersexed condition, and in appropriate cases, treatment should be given as early as possible, given the serious potential effects of delay.

Now that is the policy, according to several professional bodies I have spoken to about this, but as to how effective that is in application, then it's pretty difficult to get any real understanding at all, which is very frustrating. Very, very little stats evidence is available and of course, individual cases simply cannot be discussed.

There is an increasing impetus to prescribe strong anti-androgens to delay the onset of male puberty, and while in some ways I welcome this, in others I don't; it would be a bad thing if it became a blanket policy and thus denied some young people the opportunity to go for GRS and then get on with their lives more quickly. On the other hand, in cases where an assessment is more difficult to make, it may "buy time" for more investigation.

If that's how it's done in the UK.. it seems reasonable at first glance. I'm not exactly sure what the guidelines here in the states are.My point is- not to make it soooo easy that teenagers could do it on impulse (and please don't tell me this couldn't happen)..and regret it for the rest of their lives.

It couldn't happen.

For kids to be able to quickly, impulsively get SRS it would have to be free or nearly free so they can pull it off financially.

Yet to do that that would mean insurance would pay for it, or government health care- neither likes to impulsively pay for anything, especially stuff like this. The kid would have to prove medical neccessity, and that itself is a long drawn out process that requires documenting and proving that you need it (shrinks, letters, however this is handled- its going to occur).

Ok, so the parents could just buy it for them, bypassing the "convincing health care you need it" part. That's great only that's the way it is now for GG's getting cosmetic surgeries, and you don't see parents running out and buying their 15 year old daughters breast implants.

You don't see 15 year olds running out and buying breast implants with their lunch money either. Yet there is almost no screening process for implants for GGs... and its (compared to srs anyway) pretty damn affordable.

Everyone likes to sensationalize plastic surgery, but it really isn't like how its depicted on south park. Minors get cosmetic surgeries all the time, sometimes they're even (gasp!) in charge of their own medical decisions. Yet it doesn't seem to be a big problem.

I think most trans therapists heads would spontaneously detonate if they realized I was making my own medical decisions by 12, and had a round of plastic surgery (not trans related) in 2nd grade that surgeon-hours was longer than srs usually is (~7-10 depending on the surgeon for srs iirc).

Plastic surgery for deformities are regularly performed on children, even when its a purely aesthetic issue that could be safely delayed until they're legal adults. SRS is far closer to a situation like this than "a 15 year old running out to get breast implants."

[deee757]

A faggot, like nigger, dike, chink, cracker, honkie, etc... is a way of degrading someone. It's a bad term that speaks deep into someone's vulnerability. It's an attack to their existence and sexual preference.

To put it in simpler terms....

Faggot = Tranny chaser - JK ROFFL

Is what I thought, that's why I became confused when people are being called faggots in this forum. Even more confusing, nobody's calling them out on it

[Silcc69]

Why are these threads being hijacked like this? And for the OP how can you be on this site yet not be inot TS? That makes no sense at all. And If this forums were to close down I would'nt migrate to a gay forum. This is the only adult forum that I visit.

[runamok]

I'm not gay, and I am not into ts girls, so i don't want to offend anyone. But i hear this term thrown around up here a lot, and I just need a clear definition of what a faggot is. Thanks guys, lol

Then, what in the fuck are you doing here?

[JeniferTS]

I'm not gay, and I am not into ts girls, so i don't want to offend anyone. But i hear this term thrown around up here a lot, and I just need a clear definition of what a faggot is. Thanks guys, lol

Then, what in the fuck are you doing here?

maybe he has a school project and his topic is on faggots

[Silcc69]

I'm not gay, and I am not into ts girls, so i don't want to offend anyone. But i hear this term thrown around up here a lot, and I just need a clear definition of what a faggot is. Thanks guys, lol

Then, what in the fuck are you doing here?

maybe he has a school project and his topic is on faggots

Joined: 24 Feb 2009
Posts: 267
Location: Richmond


Well he has 267 post's so this must be an extensive project.

[deee757]

I'm not gay, and I am not into ts girls, so i don't want to offend anyone. But i hear this term thrown around up here a lot, and I just need a clear definition of what a faggot is. Thanks guys, lol

Then, what in the fuck are you doing here?

maybe he has a school project and his topic is on faggots

Joined: 24 Feb 2009
Posts: 267
Location: Richmond


Well he has 267 post's so this must be an extensive project.

Feel free to peruse all 267 (now 268) to see if u can call me out on not being into ts's

[deee757]

Why are these threads being hijacked like this? And for the OP how can you be on this site yet not be inot TS? That makes no sense at all. And If this forums were to close down I would'nt migrate to a gay forum. This is the only adult forum that I visit.

Dont take yourself so seriously, is all entertainment. Relax, people are into different things

[MacShreach]

I am not into ts girls,







Feel free to peruse all 267 (now 268) to see if u can call me out on not being into ts's

Okay so now my head hurts. Are you saying you really are not into TS girls, in which case, why are you here, or was the OP a typo?

I'm not saying go away or anything like that-- I am just curious to know, if you really are not into TS women, why you would spend time here. Is it just the scintillating wit and informative banter?

[deee757]

I am not into ts girls,







Feel free to peruse all 267 (now 268) to see if u can call me out on not being into ts's

Okay so now my head hurts. Are you saying you really are not into TS girls, in which case, why are you here, or was the OP a typo?

I'm not saying go away or anything like that-- I am just curious to know, if you really are not into TS women, why you would spend time here. Is it just the scintillating wit and informative banter?

Ok, this is about my fifth variation of this answer, due to others who keep posting the same repetitive question without reading previous threads. Here goes...... If a person is into traditional porn (male on female) and this person is "straight" he is interested in watching the couple have sex, hes not into the male. I do not like traditional porn, cause im not interested in watching naked males. I do LOVE lesbian porn. Like i previously said i found this forum while reading various articles about the so called pregnant man, than I was turned on to TS girls on girls, and it was pretty cool. I than started reading the posts, and eventually started responding. Don't know how to make this point any clearer, but people are into different things. You may come in here for a specific reason, but my reasons can be different. So maybe me saying that I am not into TS girls is a little inaccurate, being that I am a member of this site, so i will clarify by saying that I am not attracted to TS girls and am not interested in ever having any type of relationship with a TS girl. I don't mind future ridicule about being straight and being in denial, but you cant say your confused.

[jjhill]

I believe Dee, he don't post in all those other threads where its "naked women, who is this woman, and wow look at that dick and all that other stuff." I believe ya Dee

[MacShreach]

I am not into ts girls,







Feel free to peruse all 267 (now 268) to see if u can call me out on not being into ts's

Okay so now my head hurts. Are you saying you really are not into TS girls, in which case, why are you here, or was the OP a typo?

I'm not saying go away or anything like that-- I am just curious to know, if you really are not into TS women, why you would spend time here. Is it just the scintillating wit and informative banter?

Ok, this is about my fifth variation of this answer, due to others who keep posting the same repetitive question without reading previous threads. Here goes...... If a person is into traditional porn (male on female) and this person is "straight" he is interested in watching the couple have sex, hes not into the male. I do not like traditional porn, cause im not interested in watching naked males. I do LOVE lesbian porn. Like i previously said i found this forum while reading various articles about the so called pregnant man, than I was turned on to TS girls on girls, and it was pretty cool. I than started reading the posts, and eventually started responding. Don't know how to make this point any clearer, but people are into different things. You may come in here for a specific reason, but my reasons can be different. So maybe me saying that I am not into TS girls is a little inaccurate, being that I am a member of this site, so i will clarify by saying that I am not attracted to TS girls and am not interested in ever having any type of relationship with a TS girl. I don't mind future ridicule about being straight and being in denial, but you cant say your confused.

Thank you. I was not prepared to wade through 10 pages of same old same old to piece that together.

So you're into porn where the TG is fucking a GG. Well, there's no shortage.

[deee757]

Yeaaaaaaa!!!!!!!! In counseling this is what we call a treatment breakthrough

[SarahG]

I'm not gay, and I am not into ts girls, so i don't want to offend anyone. But i hear this term thrown around up here a lot, and I just need a clear definition of what a faggot is. Thanks guys, lol

Then, what in the fuck are you doing here?

maybe he has a school project and his topic is on faggots

LOL

You never know.

[MacShreach]

Yeaaaaaaa!!!!!!!! In counseling this is what we call a treatment breakthrough

Are you always this much of a twat or only when people talk to you?

[deee757]

i dont even know what twat means. But i would say yea i guess?

[MacShreach]

i dont even know what twat means. But i would say yea i guess?

Woo, you really are challenged in the vocabulary department, aren't you? But that was the right answer. :wink:

[fred41]

i dont even know what twat means. But i would say yea i guess?

Woo, you really are challenged in the vocabulary department, aren't you? But that was the right answer. :wink:

:lol: :lol: :lol:

(deee757,even if you had nooooo clue...did you really think it was going to mean a "good thing"?)

[alex_c]

I'm not gay, and I am not into ts girls, so i don't want to offend anyone. But i hear this term thrown around up here a lot, and I just need a clear definition of what a faggot is. Thanks guys, lol

I am gay and im into TGs (TS/TV), This word can mean 2 things, 1. slang for a cigarette or 2. slang for a gay person.

The way its used on the forum, is mostly by the TG's as slang to demoralize the person being talked to, Many TG's use this with context relating to themselves or their past lives, many also use this to distance themselves from being categorized as gay men. This is why you have so much "mud slinging" on the forum.

[blacktgirls]

a FAG or FAGGOT is a name that SOME of the TS girls here on HA call the men when they get MAD at us because THEY THINK IT HURTS the men here on the board the same way it HURT these GIRLS growing up as a child...... the only problem with this INSULT is it doesn't mean anything without them feeling that only a FAG or FAGGOT WOULD BE ATTRACTED TO THEM since they're TSgirls !!!!........PS , the sad part is that some of the younger TSgirls on HA look up to them as inspiration to follow in their foot steps towards transformation .

[damakai]

Sacrificing first post for another perspective

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-otAJrtY-w

And if I could fold my body so I could suck my own dick...
would that make me a fagot or just a very sad yet determined masturbator.

[SarahG]

And if I could fold my body so I could suck my own dick...
would that make me a fagot or just a very sad yet determined masturbator.

Which part of it would be giving you the thrill?

[damakai]

Which part of it would be giving you the thrill?

No idea...I never got that far :D

[SarahG]

Which part of it would be giving you the thrill?

No idea...I never got that far :D

LOL

Its one of those things where if you ever do get that far, no one will believe it unless you get it in film.

[yodajazz]

A faggot, like nigger, dike, chink, cracker, honkie, etc... is a way of degrading someone. It's a bad term that speaks deep into someone's vulnerability. It's an attack to their existence and sexual preference.

To put it in simpler terms....

Faggot = Tranny chaser - JK ROFFL

I agree with you, except that last sentence. I assum you'r joking, right?


a FAG or FAGGOT is a name that SOME of the TS girls here on HA call the men when they get MAD at us because THEY THINK IT HURTS the men here on the board the same way it HURT these GIRLS growing up as a child...... the only problem with this INSULT is it doesn't mean anything without them feeling that only a FAG or FAGGOT WOULD BE ATTRACTED TO THEM since they're TSgirls !!!!........PS , the sad part is that some of the younger TSgirls on HA look up to them as inspiration to follow in their foot steps towards transformation .

Yeah, it doesn't add up, except it is just to hurt someone. Most transwomen work very hard to develope and display feminine attributes. All people are attracted to secondary sexual characteristics of the sex they prefer. Even though many trans women say that men only want them for one thing, the same man is also ususally attracted to women with vaginas.

[Helvis2012]

Go to the mirror and look directly into it.

[natina]

BELOW PICTURES OF FAGGOTS

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fags

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faggot

Fag may refer to:

Fag, a British colloquialism for cigarette
Fag, a junior boy who acts or acted as servant ("fagging") to a senior boy at a British independent school
Fag, or Faggot (slang), a slur for a homosexual or effeminate man

n.

A student at a British public school who is required to perform menial tasks for a student in a higher class.
A drudge.
Chiefly British. Fatiguing or tedious work; drudgery.

v., fagged, fag·ging, fags.

v.intr.
To work to exhaustion; toil.
To function as the servant of another student in a British public school.

Faggot or fagot may refer to:

Faggot (slang), a pejorative for gay and effeminate men, or those presumed to be gay and effeminate.
Faggot (food), a British meatball commonly made of pork offal
Faggot (volume), an archaic unit of measurement for bundles of sticks
Faggot (wood) (or fagot), bundle of sticks or branches
Faggots (novel), a novel by Larry Kramer
Faggoting (metalworking), a metalworking technique
Faggoting, a knitting term (see Basic knitted fabrics#Faggoting)
Faggot stitch, a traditional embroidery stitch also known as Straight Open Cretan

http://sporeflections.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/faggot.jpg
http://www.pantagraph.com/blogs/main/wp-content/uploads/2006/11/spotteddick.jpg
http://www.zeitgeistworld.com/v3/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/secret-faggot.jpg

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u59/DAMM51318/faggot.jpg

http://treestemcreations.com/images/products/detail/6lograk4.jpg

Thus the definition of a fag being a bundle of kindling