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JamesJones
05-10-2009, 12:28 AM
WHATS BEST AGE YOU THINK...FOR T.S TO GET OUT OF ESCORTING & SETTLE DOWN & SAY GET MARRIED OR BE WITH 1 MAN???

POST YOUR THOUGHTS...

LTR_Seeker
05-10-2009, 12:55 AM
this should be good

menacingmethods86
05-10-2009, 01:21 AM
until the die

Shining Star
05-10-2009, 01:25 AM
Before one has an arrest and or criminal record.

*LOL*

Danielle Foxx
05-10-2009, 01:35 AM
In my personal life,

I was working to get what I needed done as far as transition. Not only that but to give myself some kind of work after adult work. I had focus and ambitions, they were not just dreams filled with self doubt.

I think hopefully these young women that are just now starting to escort think wisely about those who came before them, where are they now, where were they then.

Use your examples wisely. I have seen some ladies fall flat on their face publicly and personally due to bad examples and empty dreams.

I think a lady is too old when she thinks she is too old, or obviously when she isn't paying for her advertising and travel expenses anymore. When business dries out then you know it is time to move on.

Age is nothing but a number. I know several ladies in their fourties who escort and who are extremely well kept and classy.

TsVanessa69
05-10-2009, 01:42 AM
I agree Danielle! Till you cant pay that ad anymore!
I am not tied to just escorting, so now I just do it for the extra money for my drag costumes and to travel.
I used escorting to pay for my transition and live comfortable and safe while I was doing it. Now after I get my new breast implants in october, I will be at where I want to be and how I wanted to look. So it will even be less relevant in my life.
I have a job now and in school to get my certifications to become a counselor. And I will be going back on stage with my real love in life, my drag shows.
I am making a whole new wardrobe and updating the costumes I already have.
Escorting for me was a means to the end, but not the end in itself. Of course now I will just see clients if I feel like it. The freedom of not depending on that to get thru in life, I am a much happier person.

Shining Star
05-10-2009, 01:51 AM
On A More Serious Note:

Have always felt and stated that one should "work" as a means to an end, then get out and move on.

The "end" could be medical/transitioning costs, education, short term financial need, or long term financial goal, whatever, the thing to do is have some sort of goal that upon reached, one quits.

By and large when one is "new" and or "young" hoe, that is probably the time when an escort is going to bring in his or her most income. Leaving aside certain "stars", most peak after that, then it is a slow decline. New photos, body and or face work may lessen or slow the decline, but with the advent of review sites, word get around fast. Also the ever increasing number of new and fresh competition entering the market tends to lower the rates of "older" workers. Again, leaving aside stars and famous performers, but even then.

For long as there have been hoes and madames, smart ones took their profits and did something with them that would or could provide them with income aside from escorting. This could range from investing to purchasing real estate, or laying the groundwork for a "legit" business or trade.

IMHO it has always been the height of good taste to leave anything when one is on top of one's game. If an escort once took in $1000 from dates, and now can barely get $200 or less, then it is time to move on. In short when an escort finds he or she is working harder and making less money, it is a clear signal their shelf life has expired.

OTHO, if an escort "retires" while he or she is still fresh, then a come-back tour every now and then will be warmly greeted.

Danielle Foxx
05-10-2009, 02:16 AM
Very well said.

Business aside, this also has more to do with psychological imbalance then money, really...

Sex work is in trans history, as our society is exposed to more and more ladies such as Candice Caine, Calpernia Adams, Roberta Close, even Gia Darling and her empire. Kids eventually will see that there is hope for the outcasts as well.

It is an understatement when I say that the influence for the internet media has made a tremendous impact in trans life. More and more you hear of girls growing up to be just like regular folk.

When trans women were more in oppression there was a higher number of ladies who would turn to sex work, on a psychological note that seems to be related to oppression and not self worth as much.

Even older ladies who had given up hope have recently revived their lives and are doing extremely well for themselves such as Meghan Chevalier. Who continues to be an incredible light of inspiration with her recent accomplishments.

Not only are the ladies doing well for themselves but also to better educate people on the internet and discussion forums. It is not all about sex anymore in chat rooms and forum, as clearly seen here by the veteran posters. Men and genetic females are seeking understanding to their own sexual urges towards trans women and taboo "hook ups" such as Eros and other working girl sites.


It's not about age as you can see. I am 33 now and I feel more fulfilled then any time in my life and I can thank that to adult work. I hope in my "young age" I made an impression and gave people pleasure. Giving people pleasure is a great fulfilling trade, if you ask me.

I am blabbering lol

Jericho
05-10-2009, 02:32 AM
When the skanky tricks start haggling and you stop and consider it.

Dino Velvet
05-10-2009, 05:16 AM
Don't escorts stop aging at 26? Lisa Lawrence has been 26 for 15 years.

deadlyray
05-10-2009, 05:23 AM
ASAP! You never know when that next person is going to be a murderous freak. Also, people can get used to seemingly anything. Doing something like that too long will make it easier to do and harder to get out of the longer you do it I'd imagine. It only takes one freak.

Danielle Foxx
05-10-2009, 05:55 AM
Don't escorts stop aging at 26? Lisa Lawrence has been 26 for 15 years.


:roll:

BLKGSXR
05-10-2009, 08:01 AM
Don't escorts stop aging at 26? Lisa Lawrence has been 26 for 15 years.


:roll:I chuckled...

TsVanessa69
05-10-2009, 08:34 AM
Don't escorts stop aging at 26? Lisa Lawrence has been 26 for 15 years.
I just turned 37 and I own up to that! The boys tell me I got that "good good".

JamesJones
05-10-2009, 08:57 AM
No 401k For Hustlers...

Was wondering because after all the wear and tear...Are most getting out of the escorting/business what they set out for...

One thing to love sex but to be sleeping with differ people and still get nothing @ end of road...POINTLESS!!!

WAKE UP...But if you love sex...And setting goals for golden years more power 2 You.

Danielle Foxx
05-10-2009, 09:32 AM
I chose to excuse myself, I seem to have lost my marbles.

Peace

MacShreach
05-10-2009, 11:07 AM
I seem to have lost my marbles.



Nah, you make a lot of sense. And thanks to you and Vanessa, for the insights in this thread.

I would also like to say you are both looking GREAT. If you have good bones, good skin and look after yourselves, age is not to be feared, ladies.

DC
05-10-2009, 02:11 PM
Vanessa you look hot, anyway women are like a fine wine, they get better with age, and you are definitely getting hotter with every year...

alyssats
05-10-2009, 02:16 PM
Don't escorts stop aging at 26? Lisa Lawrence has been 26 for 15 years.

Me im always 21 jeje
but most guys even said i look more young than my forever 21 yrs age

kensterling
05-10-2009, 02:50 PM
I find this a very interesting topic, having lived it through the male side of escorting. As a male escort, I don't claim to have any knowledge of what a TG escort goes through, the paying for hormone treatments and surgeries, that is a tough nut to make.
I would say that I understand the rest, part of what you lose in your life, keeping it from freinds and family, etc.
I agree with Vanessa and Danille that it truely is a means to an end. If you go into it with a plan, it can work out for everybody. If you are in for the fast money and monetary things, that's where the trouble lies.
I started to support myself while opening a business, then once that was stabilized, to buy property, then for investment purposes, now just for extra spending money. LIke Vanessa, I now escort just for spending money, and to some extent, the positive feedback that people still want you and are willing to pay for you.
One poster said that when you get less money or less calls, that it is nearing the end, and I agree. I do feel, if you post your true age and pics, let the consumer decide if that is what they want. Most clients like different things and some want mature people. But, if you are desperate for the money and have to lie to clients, that is where the trouble can be.
I do disagree with the one poster about the 401K thing. While your employer is not is not funding it, you can do it yourself. I have a simple IRA that I fund through my business. Escorts can do the same if they claim their money as entertainers, set up an S corp, etc. There are many ways to skin a cat, as they say, so if you truely want to, you can make it happen.
I have left out the downside, like law enforcement and psycho clients. Def a problem. But I have seen other business people arrested for fraud and theft, and attacked by psycho business partners, so there is risk everywhere.
Just posting my experience. Escorting did me well, and I only do it now on my own terms. I hope all the girls (and guys that do it) get the same result. Best of luck to all!

BrendaQG
05-10-2009, 04:35 PM
Those before me have said it's all about money, and psychological need. I haven't escorted since last August. I did it because I needed the money. I had some student aid money but really it is not enough to live in Chicago in any kind of independent way. I used the money I made to pay the bills, and build up my credit rating so that I could borrow what I needed to get work done. I got implants and I am finally getting braces, neither of these things are cheap. Now I need to pay that money back so guess what I'll probably be doing sooner or later.

I did get a mental boost out of having someone be willing to pay for me and then pay again and again.

So when would I stop and rule escorting out for good? :-? When I can get a really good job that will actually pay my bills.

Shining Star
05-10-2009, 07:30 PM
JamesJone:

There is a common myth that escorts and the profits derived from (as well as any other, well shall we say "criminal" activity), are not taxed nor can such proceeds be saved nor invested, which is not totally true, at least in the United States.

The IRS and tax laws are set up to collect tax on income, regardless of how it is earned. Remember Al Capone went to prison for failing to pay taxes.

Many escorts simply call themselves something else and declare all (or part), of their income, and pay taxes accordingly. Without tax payments one cannot purchase a home, a car, invest, save or any other transaction that goes over the cash reporting limits set up by the federal government.

Try showing up to purchase a house with 500K or even 25K in cash, and see where that gets you.

Some escorts also accept credit cards, which certianly involves bank accounts and reporting, thus one pretty much as to file a tax return.

Two problems however come to mind at once:

One, being a "cash" business, escorts face a greater chance of being audited (the IRS has a thing for all cash businesses).

Two, there is a fine line to walk so one cannot be accused of money laundering, but any number of good attorneys can advise on that matter.

Just for the record, escorts one knows who advertise on Eros.com and Exotics.com get calls and or emails from stock brokers all the time. Considering where they got their phone number/information it is a sure thing that they know what time it is, and probably have dealth with such things before.

baileyandkc
05-10-2009, 11:30 PM
well unless you're pointing toward a goal, like getting enough money for surgery, maybe its like Brett Favre...go until they don't pay you anymore..

Once they stop calling, you stop escorting because there's no one to escort..

Wonder if there are escorts in their 60s or 70s?

Dino Velvet
05-11-2009, 05:30 AM
Don't escorts stop aging at 26? Lisa Lawrence has been 26 for 15 years.


:roll:

Sorry Danielle, I didn't mean for you to get your feathers ruffled. I wasn't trying to take a jab at you. You've held up pretty well over the years and Cougars are in style these days.

Jericho
05-11-2009, 05:58 AM
You've held up pretty well over the years and Cougars are in style these days.

I knew if i waited long enough!

MacShreach
05-11-2009, 04:45 PM
You've held up pretty well over the years and Cougars are in style these days.

I knew if i waited long enough!
Geez, Jezz, why?

:why

deee757
05-11-2009, 05:56 PM
JamesJone:

There is a common myth that escorts and the profits derived from (as well as any other, well shall we say "criminal" activity), are not taxed nor can such proceeds be saved nor invested, which is not totally true, at least in the United States.

The IRS and tax laws are set up to collect tax on income, regardless of how it is earned. Remember Al Capone went to prison for failing to pay taxes.

Many escorts simply call themselves something else and declare all (or part), of their income, and pay taxes accordingly. Without tax payments one cannot purchase a home, a car, invest, save or any other transaction that goes over the cash reporting limits set up by the federal government.

Try showing up to purchase a house with 500K or even 25K in cash, and see where that gets you.

Some escorts also accept credit cards, which certianly involves bank accounts and reporting, thus one pretty much as to file a tax return.

Two problems however come to mind at once:

One, being a "cash" business, escorts face a greater chance of being audited (the IRS has a thing for all cash businesses).

Two, there is a fine line to walk so one cannot be accused of money laundering, but any number of good attorneys can advise on that matter.

Just for the record, escorts one knows who advertise on Eros.com and Exotics.com get calls and or emails from stock brokers all the time. Considering where they got their phone number/information it is a sure thing that they know what time it is, and probably have dealth with such things before.

escorting is actually legal, prostitution is illegal. So all the escorts could call themselves legitimate business'

Jericho
05-11-2009, 05:58 PM
You've held up pretty well over the years and Cougars are in style these days.

I knew if i waited long enough!
Geez, Jezz, why?

:why

Oh, a willingness to share! :lol:

IMISSHER
05-12-2009, 12:22 AM
WHEN THE WOMAN U LOVE LOOKS IN THE MIRROR AND SAYS IM DYING INSIDE DAY BY DAY. THEN YOU SAY STOP BABY. SHE SAYS U DONT UNDERSTAND IT CHANGES YOU IN WAYS U CAN IMAGINE. IS THIS ALL I AM? THE THINGS I HAVE DONE ARE BURNED IN MY MEMORY FOREVER. MAYBE THIS IS A GOOD TIME TO GET OUT. WHAT DO YOU THINK GIRLS. BECAUSE WE ARE BOTH DYING A LITTLE EACH DAY.

kensterling
05-12-2009, 12:55 AM
Depends how you look at it.

Danielle Foxx
05-12-2009, 07:32 AM
WHEN THE WOMAN U LOVE LOOKS IN THE MIRROR AND SAYS IM DYING INSIDE DAY BY DAY. THEN YOU SAY STOP BABY. SHE SAYS U DONT UNDERSTAND IT CHANGES YOU IN WAYS U CAN IMAGINE. IS THIS ALL I AM? THE THINGS I HAVE DONE ARE BURNED IN MY MEMORY FOREVER. MAYBE THIS IS A GOOD TIME TO GET OUT. WHAT DO YOU THINK GIRLS. BECAUSE WE ARE BOTH DYING A LITTLE EACH DAY.

I know people don't believe in psychics however I was a bit skeptical because of my history with spirituality as a child, so...

I was at a plastic surgeon's office who my friend was doing business with and waiting in the room. So the doctor comes in and starts asking me about personal sexual encounters with females and males. He says he seen a peace of me would die each day.

I took that to heart. My soul was empty and my life had no purpose.

Then I found Jesus

JUST KIDDING ! hahahahahah

Hannibal Lecter
05-12-2009, 06:27 PM
Psychological imbalance - you are affected by this phenomenon in the early beginning of your "career", in fact, that is the cause of starting it off.

That thing, "psychological imbalance" is in fact a main reason for most of the ladies to start with that somewhat oddly named thing like "business" and "career"
and "industry" and whatever, which is nothing but simply abnormal way of living your life. And things like "I'm doing this in order to survive, get my surgeries done"
etc are mostly a plain bullshit, so to speak. Just have a look at some other ordinary people: Do i really have to sell my ass to buy me a house, a tv, car etc ?
No. I'll take a loan and work hard. But if i am sexually addicted to that oddly way of living, or if i desperately want to become rich in a cheap and somewhat miserable way,
then hell, let's do it, why not.

The sad thing, however, is that many people here are in one way or another always trying to make a logical connection with prostitution and transsexualism
as things that are mutualy inclusive. That's wrong. Only a small percent of transsexuals are "sex workers", and it's allways been the case. Statements
like "More and more you hear of girls growing up to be just like regular folk" are totally wrong, because it's always been a case, we always had plenty
of the girls trying to live normal (and regular) lives from the beginning to the end. Seeing all theese "sex workers" trying to show themselves in a light
of self-declared front end representatives of transsexualism in it's entirety is nothing but sad.

So, the best age to leave escorting? Well, if you are an escort, then you are having worst ages of your life, and when you leave escorting, then your life begins for real..

Danielle Foxx
05-12-2009, 07:47 PM
That thing, "psychological imbalance" is in fact a main reason for most of the ladies to start with that somewhat oddly named thing like "business" and "career" and "industry" and whatever, which is nothing but simply abnormal way of living your life. And things like "I'm doing this in order to survive, get my surgeries done"

Possibly true but like I said... kids are not bread to be hookers nor will they be if they have good positive influences in their lives, less oppression, more understanding... That's all we need - Love
It is the cure for it all.


Just have a look at some other ordinary people: Do i really have to sell my ass to buy me a house, a tv, car etc ?
No. I'll take a loan and work hard. But if i am sexually addicted to that oddly way of living, or if i desperately want to become rich in a cheap and somewhat miserable way, then hell, let's do it, why not.

I seen people prostitute what they believe in to work for a corporation, lawyers who hate their jobs...
As far as loans... you have to have an established income to be able to get a loan these days. It is extremely difficult unless you have near to perfect credit. But that is not the point. It is the "American" trend to live in a nice house, drive a nice car, eat great food at expensive restaurants and yet your credit card bill and loans could brake you if the wind blew the wrong way.

That is one of the reasons why so many "rich" folk are in a bad situation with the economy and all.

My car is payed off, my school loan is down to $3000 I have 3 credit cards with a 1500 balance that I use to build my credit. I have only my rent and utilities to pay, which is more then most americans can say. I only spend money when I have it to spend. I don't buy on credit simply because it isn't my money to use as I wish.


The sad thing, however, is that many people here are in one way or another always trying to make a logical connection with prostitution and transsexualism
as things that are mutualy inclusive. That's wrong. Only a small percent of transsexuals are "sex workers", and it's allways been the case. Statements
like "More and more you hear of girls growing up to be just like regular folk" are totally wrong, because it's always been a case, we always had plenty
of the girls trying to live normal (and regular) lives from the beginning to the end. Seeing all theese "sex workers" trying to show themselves in a light
of self-declared front end representatives of transsexualism in it's entirety is nothing but sad.

So, the best age to leave escorting? Well, if you are an escort, then you are having worst ages of your life, and when you leave escorting, then your life begins for real..


Your ideal of "good light" is extremely negative, even if your words speak of a truth that is painted with sorrow and judgement.
I am not sure if you actually have any experience in the trassexual community aside from sitting behind a computer screen basing your opinions of what a transsexual is by looking at sites such as these.

I am sure you and my therapist ( who is also a TG ) have a lot to discuss. My former therapist is actually an ex porn star who went to college while she was doing movies and escorting. Now she has turned her life around.

It is sick to me that people judge prostitution and something so horrible and yet they are only bring people pleasure ( and an occasional std or 2 ), and yet the ones who are so harsh in their views, and those who practive oppression think of themselves as "know it all ".

Puzzling how a former escort and porn star can seem so in-tune with what's real isn't it?

Judging people on the paths they take is not fair. Everyone has a destiny and we cannot help where life takes us, we just flow through it. Of corse we can change how we perceive problems and hardships as simply a lesson to be learned. If one focuses on such acts in a negative light then yes... It could have some severe psychological side effects.

We are all born pure, humanity and the environment is what pollutes us.

There are many reasons for my depression and trust me when I tell you this... It has NOTHING to do with adult work. AT ALL ! It has all to do with the fact I wish I was born a genetic woman. It gets to me, it haunts me, it lingers in my mind and it weighs my soul, but as my logical side speaks it tells me that life is in the future and not in the past and we should all make our marks in the world and help those who are less fortunate. That gives me purpose in life, fulfillment, passion, makes me driven, gives me power, energy, good karma.

MacShreach
05-12-2009, 08:06 PM
Then I found Jesus

JUST KIDDING ! hahahahahah

Waah! You had me going, there. kiddo. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

MacShreach
05-12-2009, 08:13 PM
There are many reasons for my depression and trust me when I tell you this... It has NOTHING to do with adult work. AT ALL ! It has all to do with the fact I wish I was born a genetic woman. It gets to me, it haunts me, it lingers in my mind and it weighs my soul, but as my logical side speaks it tells me that life is in the future and not in the past and we should all make our marks in the world and help those who are less fortunate. That gives me purpose in life, fulfillment, passion, makes me driven, gives me power, energy, good karma.

Honey, I can't walk the mile in your shoes. You know that. So I can't see it from inside. What I can say, though is that I have known many women, and from our online exchanges, you are a witty, intelligent, funny, kindhearted, warm, and caring WOMAN.

It may not help, but Peggy said a while ago, "It doesn't matter how we got here, we're just women." I know that there are things you can't have because of your history, but when all is said and done, you do have a lot.

Hannibal Lecter
05-13-2009, 12:01 AM
That thing, "psychological imbalance" is in fact a main reason for most of the ladies to start with that somewhat oddly named thing like "business" and "career" and "industry" and whatever, which is nothing but simply abnormal way of living your life. And things like "I'm doing this in order to survive, get my surgeries done"

Possibly true but like I said... kids are not bread to be hookers nor will they be if they have good positive influences in their lives, less oppression, more understanding... That's all we need - Love
It is the cure for it all.


Just have a look at some other ordinary people: Do i really have to sell my ass to buy me a house, a tv, car etc ?
No. I'll take a loan and work hard. But if i am sexually addicted to that oddly way of living, or if i desperately want to become rich in a cheap and somewhat miserable way, then hell, let's do it, why not.

I seen people prostitute what they believe in to work for a corporation, lawyers who hate their jobs...
As far as loans... you have to have an established income to be able to get a loan these days. It is extremely difficult unless you have near to perfect credit. But that is not the point. It is the "American" trend to live in a nice house, drive a nice car, eat great food at expensive restaurants and yet your credit card bill and loans could brake you if the wind blew the wrong way.

That is one of the reasons why so many "rich" folk are in a bad situation with the economy and all.

My car is payed off, my school loan is down to $3000 I have 3 credit cards with a 1500 balance that I use to build my credit. I have only my rent and utilities to pay, which is more then most americans can say. I only spend money when I have it to spend. I don't buy on credit simply because it isn't my money to use as I wish.


The sad thing, however, is that many people here are in one way or another always trying to make a logical connection with prostitution and transsexualism
as things that are mutualy inclusive. That's wrong. Only a small percent of transsexuals are "sex workers", and it's allways been the case. Statements
like "More and more you hear of girls growing up to be just like regular folk" are totally wrong, because it's always been a case, we always had plenty
of the girls trying to live normal (and regular) lives from the beginning to the end. Seeing all theese "sex workers" trying to show themselves in a light
of self-declared front end representatives of transsexualism in it's entirety is nothing but sad.

So, the best age to leave escorting? Well, if you are an escort, then you are having worst ages of your life, and when you leave escorting, then your life begins for real..


Your ideal of "good light" is extremely negative, even if your words speak of a truth that is painted with sorrow and judgement.
I am not sure if you actually have any experience in the trassexual community aside from sitting behind a computer screen basing your opinions of what a transsexual is by looking at sites such as these.

I am sure you and my therapist ( who is also a TG ) have a lot to discuss. My former therapist is actually an ex porn star who went to college while she was doing movies and escorting. Now she has turned her life around.

It is sick to me that people judge prostitution and something so horrible and yet they are only bring people pleasure ( and an occasional std or 2 ), and yet the ones who are so harsh in their views, and those who practive oppression think of themselves as "know it all ".

Puzzling how a former escort and porn star can seem so in-tune with what's real isn't it?

Judging people on the paths they take is not fair. Everyone has a destiny and we cannot help where life takes us, we just flow through it. Of corse we can change how we perceive problems and hardships as simply a lesson to be learned. If one focuses on such acts in a negative light then yes... It could have some severe psychological side effects.

We are all born pure, humanity and the environment is what pollutes us.

There are many reasons for my depression and trust me when I tell you this... It has NOTHING to do with adult work. AT ALL ! It has all to do with the fact I wish I was born a genetic woman. It gets to me, it haunts me, it lingers in my mind and it weighs my soul, but as my logical side speaks it tells me that life is in the future and not in the past and we should all make our marks in the world and help those who are less fortunate. That gives me purpose in life, fulfillment, passion, makes me driven, gives me power, energy, good karma.

I won't try to discuss our opposite opinions further on, simply because i see in front of me an endless loop of negativity
and that is nothing i'm looking forward to. Not any more. I have made that mistake few times before and i do not want it to
happen again. Both you and me are decent people and we really do not deserve that kind of situation.

In fact, i would like to give you a big credit for being brutally honest, ambitios, goal-oriented and brave. A girl
of that size, those qualities and that strength, but unfortunately... I will not finish that sentence, i will keep it
for myself, because it seems to me that whatever i say it will only bring me trouble and nothing else. Do i deserve that?
No, i do not.

One thing that we seem to have in common is our horrible past. I will not tell you about my history, it's not relevant here,
i will only point out that i am, pretty much like you, depressive because of just that - the history. And the cure is,
as you mentioned it yourself, to forget the past and look into the future. And even more important, to prevent the history
from happening again.

Danielle Foxx
05-13-2009, 01:49 AM
That thing, "psychological imbalance" is in fact a main reason for most of the ladies to start with that somewhat oddly named thing like "business" and "career" and "industry" and whatever, which is nothing but simply abnormal way of living your life. And things like "I'm doing this in order to survive, get my surgeries done"

Possibly true but like I said... kids are not bread to be hookers nor will they be if they have good positive influences in their lives, less oppression, more understanding... That's all we need - Love
It is the cure for it all.


Just have a look at some other ordinary people: Do i really have to sell my ass to buy me a house, a tv, car etc ?
No. I'll take a loan and work hard. But if i am sexually addicted to that oddly way of living, or if i desperately want to become rich in a cheap and somewhat miserable way, then hell, let's do it, why not.

I seen people prostitute what they believe in to work for a corporation, lawyers who hate their jobs...
As far as loans... you have to have an established income to be able to get a loan these days. It is extremely difficult unless you have near to perfect credit. But that is not the point. It is the "American" trend to live in a nice house, drive a nice car, eat great food at expensive restaurants and yet your credit card bill and loans could brake you if the wind blew the wrong way.

That is one of the reasons why so many "rich" folk are in a bad situation with the economy and all.

My car is payed off, my school loan is down to $3000 I have 3 credit cards with a 1500 balance that I use to build my credit. I have only my rent and utilities to pay, which is more then most americans can say. I only spend money when I have it to spend. I don't buy on credit simply because it isn't my money to use as I wish.


The sad thing, however, is that many people here are in one way or another always trying to make a logical connection with prostitution and transsexualism
as things that are mutualy inclusive. That's wrong. Only a small percent of transsexuals are "sex workers", and it's allways been the case. Statements
like "More and more you hear of girls growing up to be just like regular folk" are totally wrong, because it's always been a case, we always had plenty
of the girls trying to live normal (and regular) lives from the beginning to the end. Seeing all theese "sex workers" trying to show themselves in a light
of self-declared front end representatives of transsexualism in it's entirety is nothing but sad.

So, the best age to leave escorting? Well, if you are an escort, then you are having worst ages of your life, and when you leave escorting, then your life begins for real..


Your ideal of "good light" is extremely negative, even if your words speak of a truth that is painted with sorrow and judgement.
I am not sure if you actually have any experience in the trassexual community aside from sitting behind a computer screen basing your opinions of what a transsexual is by looking at sites such as these.

I am sure you and my therapist ( who is also a TG ) have a lot to discuss. My former therapist is actually an ex porn star who went to college while she was doing movies and escorting. Now she has turned her life around.

It is sick to me that people judge prostitution and something so horrible and yet they are only bring people pleasure ( and an occasional std or 2 ), and yet the ones who are so harsh in their views, and those who practive oppression think of themselves as "know it all ".

Puzzling how a former escort and porn star can seem so in-tune with what's real isn't it?

Judging people on the paths they take is not fair. Everyone has a destiny and we cannot help where life takes us, we just flow through it. Of corse we can change how we perceive problems and hardships as simply a lesson to be learned. If one focuses on such acts in a negative light then yes... It could have some severe psychological side effects.

We are all born pure, humanity and the environment is what pollutes us.

There are many reasons for my depression and trust me when I tell you this... It has NOTHING to do with adult work. AT ALL ! It has all to do with the fact I wish I was born a genetic woman. It gets to me, it haunts me, it lingers in my mind and it weighs my soul, but as my logical side speaks it tells me that life is in the future and not in the past and we should all make our marks in the world and help those who are less fortunate. That gives me purpose in life, fulfillment, passion, makes me driven, gives me power, energy, good karma.

I won't try to discuss our opposite opinions further on, simply because i see in front of me an endless loop of negativity
and that is nothing i'm looking forward to. Not any more. I have made that mistake few times before and i do not want it to
happen again. Both you and me are decent people and we really do not deserve that kind of situation.

In fact, i would like to give you a big credit for being brutally honest, ambitios, goal-oriented and brave. A girl
of that size, those qualities and that strength, but unfortunately... I will not finish that sentence, i will keep it
for myself, because it seems to me that whatever i say it will only bring me trouble and nothing else. Do i deserve that?
No, i do not.

One thing that we seem to have in common is our horrible past. I will not tell you about my history, it's not relevant here,
i will only point out that i am, pretty much like you, depressive because of just that - the history. And the cure is,
as you mentioned it yourself, to forget the past and look into the future. And even more important, to prevent the history
from happening again.

The reason why we are not going to discuss it further is because you have a very radical way of seeing this topic. I on the other hand have a more passionate soul driven answer.

Life is worth more when one attempts to see it in good light and it doesn't matter if you sell it for 25 cents or 1000 dollars, it matters how strong your mind and heart are.

There is no argument there. However I can see how your past has made you a very cold individual when it comes to your opinions, and I empathize.

peggygee
11-19-2009, 05:18 AM
Insightful responses, and an interesting contrast to this thread - Why do so many TS go into escorting? (http://www.hungangels.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=50799)

Nicole Dupre
11-19-2009, 05:33 AM
A. When your hole is all dried up and rancid
B. When you need the time to take up the accordion
C. When human trafficking becomes more lucrative
D. When your drug connection gets locked up
E. When Dancing with the Stars starts in a few minutes

sugdaddie69
11-19-2009, 07:35 AM
Most,not all will continue to "escort" even after transitioning is complete,accustom to a lifestyle,pay bills,etc.gettin' out the game isn't easy in any hustle.even the physical transitioning is usually build around being a escort,as oppose to releasing some inter-woman.Its not true for all,but it is for most.you stay in the game until it doesn't want you any longer,or until you die.