1st relationship with ts

[gottalovetransexuals]

hey all hope your good
ive just started dating a ts, shes pretty, wonderful body and great fun to be with.
the prob is weve only met once at her place and im off to meet her tomorrow night to stay the weekend with her, the plan is quiet night in on friday and go out on sat night. (heres my problem) she wants to go out to a resteraunt (excuse crappy sp) for meal and well im bricking it in case someone says anything.
we did go out in public 1st time but literally accross road to get take out
what should i do?
tell her im not comfortable going out yet?
or just go for it and hope for the best?
any guidance much appreciated and please no timewasters
thanks in advance
Dave

[NYBURBS]

hey all hope your good
ive just started dating a ts, shes pretty, wonderful body and great fun to be with.
the prob is weve only met once at her place and im off to meet her tomorrow night to stay the weekend with her, the plan is quiet night in on friday and go out on sat night. (heres my problem) she wants to go out to a resteraunt (excuse crappy sp) for meal and well im bricking it in case someone says anything.
we did go out in public 1st time but literally accross road to get take out
what should i do?
tell her im not comfortable going out yet?
or just go for it and hope for the best?
any guidance much appreciated and please no timewasters
thanks in advance
Dave

Dude if you're actually going to date her then you have to take her out. I mean if you were dating someone and they wanted to keep you locked inside so as to remain a secret how would that make you feel? Just take her out and try to have a good time. Just concentrate on being with her, and ignore any looks ppl might give.

[lahabra1976]

Dave, I have to say got for it, tgirls want to be treated like any other women, and if you show that you are hesitate to show her out in public and afraid of what people think of you, it will never work. Girls like you too show them you are sure of what you want and if you hesitate like that, it makes it seem if you aren't really sure if you are into tgirls

[BeardedOne]

Dave, take a breath! :)

I've been out with a couple of T-gurls and though people stared a bit I can only imagine they were envious/jealous. At one venue we got the blessing of the owner of the restaurant and at another the staff and management fawned over us because we were the best looking couple to cross the threshold.

Ignore what's around you, man. Your attentions should be focused at the marvels across the table from you.

[NYTSJulie]

hey all hope your good
ive just started dating a ts, shes pretty, wonderful body and great fun to be with.
the prob is weve only met once at her place and im off to meet her tomorrow night to stay the weekend with her, the plan is quiet night in on friday and go out on sat night. (heres my problem) she wants to go out to a resteraunt (excuse crappy sp) for meal and well im bricking it in case someone says anything.
we did go out in public 1st time but literally accross road to get take out
what should i do?
tell her im not comfortable going out yet?
or just go for it and hope for the best?
any guidance much appreciated and please no timewasters
thanks in advance
Dave

Tell her you cant go out in public with her because you think your above her and she is less then you.

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

hey all hope your good
ive just started dating a ts, shes pretty, wonderful body and great fun to be with.
the prob is weve only met once at her place and im off to meet her tomorrow night to stay the weekend with her, the plan is quiet night in on friday and go out on sat night. (heres my problem) she wants to go out to a resteraunt (excuse crappy sp) for meal and well im bricking it in case someone says anything.
we did go out in public 1st time but literally accross road to get take out
what should i do?
tell her im not comfortable going out yet?
or just go for it and hope for the best?
any guidance much appreciated and please no timewasters
thanks in advance
Dave

Tell her you cant go out in public with her because you think your above her and she is less then you.

lol

Dave............

did you really think you could come on ANY website and ask this kind of question and get an answer you could stomach???

dude, go with your gut you knew the answer before you typed the 1st line

[gottalovetransexuals]

theres some fair comments its not that i dont wanna its just a nerves thing
been into tgals for years now (about 7-8) and ive only just had bottle to meet a gal for real i.e. not escort (been with 1 or 2 in amsterdam)
i wanna treat her good its just .... i dunno cant put finger on it prob just gutless i suppose but i hate a scene im a really laid back hate to be centre of attention in any situation and when i am i just go to shit
i fully respect her and dont wanna let her down so im gonna do it but fuck im prob gonna be looking like a school boy way outta my league
one step at a time i suppose eh?

[NYTSJulie]

hey all hope your good
ive just started dating a ts, shes pretty, wonderful body and great fun to be with.
the prob is weve only met once at her place and im off to meet her tomorrow night to stay the weekend with her, the plan is quiet night in on friday and go out on sat night. (heres my problem) she wants to go out to a resteraunt (excuse crappy sp) for meal and well im bricking it in case someone says anything.
we did go out in public 1st time but literally accross road to get take out
what should i do?
tell her im not comfortable going out yet?
or just go for it and hope for the best?
any guidance much appreciated and please no timewasters
thanks in advance
Dave

Tell her you cant go out in public with her because you think your above her and she is less then you.

lol

Dave............

did you really think you could come on ANY website and ask this kind of question and get an answer you could stomach???

dude, go with your gut you knew the answer before you typed the 1st line



lol and the gag is......you know he is 5'2..bald..with thick glasses..over weight..lives at home with his mother who is a widow and she still does his laundry.

Yet the trick thinks he is more important then she and cant be seen in public with her.

[NYBURBS]

theres some fair comments its not that i dont wanna its just a nerves thing
been into tgals for years now (about 7-8) and ive only just had bottle to meet a gal for real i.e. not escort (been with 1 or 2 in amsterdam)
i wanna treat her good its just .... i dunno cant put finger on it prob just gutless i suppose but i hate a scene im a really laid back hate to be centre of attention in any situation and when i am i just go to shit
i fully respect her and dont wanna let her down so im gonna do it but fuck im prob gonna be looking like a school boy way outta my league
one step at a time i suppose eh?

Yea one step at a time. Treat her like anyone else you would go on a date with and you will be fine.

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

lol and the gag is......you know he is 5'2..bald..with think glasses..over weight..lives at home with his mother who is a widow and she still does his laundry.

Yet the trick thinks he is more important then she and cant be seen in public with her.

I think you meant to type "thick" glasses

;)

Reality is he's not ready, and alot of dudes aren't. It is what it is......

[NYTSJulie]

lol and the gag is......you know he is 5'2..bald..with think glasses..over weight..lives at home with his mother who is a widow and she still does his laundry.

Yet the trick thinks he is more important then she and cant be seen in public with her.

I think you meant to type "thick" glasses

;)

Reality is he's not ready, and alot of dudes aren't. It is what it is......

changed it...thanks babe lol

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

if you feel that you are not ready to be in public with her . you are not ready to date her because if you really like her you will not care about others what they think . if that is the case leave her alone and stop waisting her time .

awwwwwwwww shaddup bottle rapist

[Legend]

hey all hope your good
ive just started dating a ts, shes pretty, wonderful body and great fun to be with.
the prob is weve only met once at her place and im off to meet her tomorrow night to stay the weekend with her, the plan is quiet night in on friday and go out on sat night. (heres my problem) she wants to go out to a resteraunt (excuse crappy sp) for meal and well im bricking it in case someone says anything.
we did go out in public 1st time but literally accross road to get take out
what should i do?
tell her im not comfortable going out yet?
or just go for it and hope for the best?
any guidance much appreciated and please no timewasters
thanks in advance
Dave


You must have self esteem issues.

[gottalovetransexuals]

so let me get this straight
all you guys jumped straight and didnt give a fuck or you just banged escorts til your wallet dried out? or you think yr cool cos you hide out in clubs behind closed doors only spilling out onto street to be seen with gals with enough guts only after a dozen or so jack and cokes piss easy in my opinion!
all you gals i suppose didnt feel at all nervous about going out for that 1st time dressed ?
cummon im only human its right to be nervous its natural just like giving that cute ass that passed you one more quick glimpse
you may all free to take the piss i really dont give a fuck
i will be going out with her and ill enjoy and make most of it cos iwant to and thats what its all about init?

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

lol, sup Legend

;)

[Ts CinthyaNY]

Well it seems that you are not completely ready to really have a relationship with any TS woman.

You should be sure of what you want, if you tell her you feel uncomfortable of being seen in public with her you just will hurt her feelings and if you care at least a little, you would not tell that to her.

Why not be honest and tell her that you just want to use her for sex.. ( like many men here ). There are a few men who have their mind set to be with a TG and they happy and comfortable to be around , people always will say something, for better or worse...

She is your woman and nobody can change that if you really like her and have feelings for her just stand up for what you think it makes you happy and who cares what everybody say.

Love...
Cinthya.

[ed_jaxon]

My 2 cents.

You have a couple of things going for you here. You like her, so you don't want to hurt her feelings. That's good.

Also you seem kind of naive. That too can be a good thing.

Be aware of your blind spots. You showing discomfort will hurt her feelings....so try to be conscious of that fact.

Teach yourself to ignore bullshit and just cuz cats are staring might be cuz she is cute. Let her take the lead on how she is feeling and be supportive.

After you have had a few great times with her out you will be more comfortable.

UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES TELL HER YOU ARE UNCOMFORTABLE! HONESTY LIKE THAT IS NOT TRULY HONEST, ITS JUST MAKING YOU FEEL BETTER WHILE MAKING THE OTHER PERSON MISERABLE.

[blonde_sweetheart]

Awwe take her out! I know I would be pretty sad if a guy with me wanted it to be a secret. And tell her i'm jealous she has a guy to take her out! I wish I did!

[Legend]

so let me get this straight
all you guys jumped straight and didnt give a fuck or you just banged escorts til your wallet dried out? or you think yr cool cos you hide out in clubs behind closed doors only spilling out onto street to be seen with gals with enough guts only after a dozen or so jack and cokes piss easy in my opinion!
all you gals i suppose didnt feel at all nervous about going out for that 1st time dressed ?
cummon im only human its right to be nervous its natural just like giving that cute ass that passed you one more quick glimpse
you may all free to take the piss i really dont give a fuck
i will be going out with her and ill enjoy and make most of it cos iwant to and thats what its all about init?

"nervous" about what? some strangers who could probably care less about you and will probably never see in your life again.The thought of you telling her that you're uncomfortable going out with her is kind of laughable,you care more some generic, random strangers then her.

[Legend]

lol, sup Legend

;)

Nothing much just got doing playing some old school doom.

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

so let me get this straight
all you guys jumped straight and didnt give a fuck or you just banged escorts til your wallet dried out? or you think yr cool cos you hide out in clubs behind closed doors only spilling out onto street to be seen with gals with enough guts only after a dozen or so jack and cokes piss easy in my opinion!
all you gals i suppose didnt feel at all nervous about going out for that 1st time dressed ?
cummon im only human its right to be nervous its natural just like giving that cute ass that passed you one more quick glimpse
you may all free to take the piss i really dont give a fuck
i will be going out with her and ill enjoy and make most of it cos iwant to and thats what its all about init?

here's the difference between me & you ( I can't speak for the other men on here)

I would NEVER ask a question like that on any forum. It's degrading to yourself to question your own judgement which is IMO what you're doing.

If it makes you feel better and you need to talk this out I'll jump in the chatroom, and it won't be some all out assault, we'll really have a man to man convo; because you might think you're being attacked, but it's a question that's been approached over and over and over again.

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

the link

http://www.userplane.com/directory/index.cfm?action=chat.loadChatFrameset&domainCode=4E5CA3DE9B755EDF4B77641437362C84&app=ch&initialRoom=&adbanner=

[mbf]

show her the url to this website. I am curious to see her take on the subject :))

[tsntx]

lol and the gag is......you know he is 5'2..bald..with think glasses..over weight..lives at home with his mother who is a widow and she still does his laundry.

Yet the trick thinks he is more important then she and cant be seen in public with her.

I think you meant to type "thick" glasses

;)

Reality is he's not ready, and alot of dudes aren't. It is what it is......

exactly

[gottalovetransexuals]

jwalker im in there dude

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

anyone else wanna join in jump on in
I'll be on the mic

[jaycanuck]

so let me get this straight
all you guys jumped straight and didnt give a fuck


Yes

[Alyssa87]

Your feelings are totally valid!!!



i would LOVE for you to tell her all this.
then let her decide if her self-esteem is low enough to continue dating you.

[SarahG]

so let me get this straight
all you guys jumped straight and didnt give a fuck or you just banged escorts til your wallet dried out? or you think yr cool cos you hide out in clubs behind closed doors only spilling out onto street to be seen with gals with enough guts only after a dozen or so jack and cokes piss easy in my opinion!
all you gals i suppose didnt feel at all nervous about going out for that 1st time dressed ?
cummon im only human its right to be nervous its natural just like giving that cute ass that passed you one more quick glimpse
you may all free to take the piss i really dont give a fuck
i will be going out with her and ill enjoy and make most of it cos iwant to and thats what its all about init?

There's a difference between being nervous about a date, and being down right phobic of being seen with your date.

What's the big deal? You think she won't be able to pass? You think she's ugly?

You said you went across the street to eat earlier, what was that like?

[tstv_lover]

My advice - don't think "what if a friend saw ME, or a work colleague saw ME or a relative saw ME"....think about HER.

If you truly care for HER then go out, revel in the ocassion and make sure she knows just how special SHE is...flowers, presents, etc.

[dderek123]

hey all hope your good
ive just started dating a ts, shes pretty, wonderful body and great fun to be with.
the prob is weve only met once at her place and im off to meet her tomorrow night to stay the weekend with her, the plan is quiet night in on friday and go out on sat night. (heres my problem) she wants to go out to a resteraunt (excuse crappy sp) for meal and well im bricking it in case someone says anything.
we did go out in public 1st time but literally accross road to get take out
what should i do?
tell her im not comfortable going out yet?
or just go for it and hope for the best?
any guidance much appreciated and please no timewasters
thanks in advance
Dave

Just go for it. I'm guessing that once you are out together it won't seem that bad. If someone says anything it just means that they are uncomfortable and that is not your problem it's theirs.

I've been with my TS girlfriend for a while now. I take her out all the time and she tags along sometimes when I go out with friends. All of my friends have accepted her and don't seem to care at all. And if they did have a problem with it they wouldn't be my friend anyway.

One thing I've learned from being with her is that there are more important things in life than what you do in bed or who you do it with. Things such as: paying the rent, putting food on the table, planning/preparing for the future and whether you are doing what you want with your life or not.

I'm curious to hear what you decided to do in this situation. Don't sweat it too much. If you're not ready it's not that big of a deal. But if you have the feeling that she is something special (and finding a TS who is all the things you mentioned in your OP definitely is ... do the math there just isn't that many good ones around) you should think twice before deciding on not going out. She might sense that you are uncomfortable with the situation as well. And if she likes you a lot she may be understanding of that.

As always plan B is to just keep on givin'er.

[fred41]

Like a lot of the posters on here..I don't feel you're ready...or may ever be. The minute you asked the question:" What should I do......?" you weren't ready. What can anyone on this site possibly tell you that you can't figure out yourself.You must have done your best to get her interested in you (which you shouldn't have done if you weren't going to follow through)..so now go through with it. If she's smart she'll no longer sleep with you..(or won't if she hasn't yet) until you take her out and get comfortable with her.If you don't take her out she should dump you.

She always goes out the way she is ...everyday ...morning to night...and you're worrying about taking her to a restaurant for a meal.

...and if you're so afraid to be the center of attention that it gives you hives (figuratively or not) ..how can you ever take out ANY stunning date...TS or GG ??

[Danielle Foxx]

Tell her you think she looks like a man and you are embarrassed to take her out in public because someone may think you are gay... wait... if you think she is a man and you are attracted to her then... Oh wait .... let me not stir this one up again...

[tsntx]

Tell her you think she looks like a man and you are embarrassed to take her out in public because someone may think you are gay... wait... if you think she is a man and you are attracted to her then... Oh wait .... let me not stir this one up again...

i think what danielle is trying to say is youre a fag, mary

[pnwguy24]

Honestly the OP was a little crass in his initial response, and I understand why people would be bothered by such a post but give the dude a break.

I can tell you from personal experience that you will never be "ready" as some people are saying. It is something that takes getting used too and once you go out a few times and start to have a good time everything else just comes into place.

A lot of the girls on here don't like to hear this, and I think that's completely understandable. However this is a fact that a lot of guys have to deal with the first time they go out with a TG woman. It is not fair, but it is a consequence of our prejudice society. It is sad that we live in such a culture but that is the reality.

So anyway, if you like her GO OUT! Try and have fun, once you start having fun you will slowly forget about everything else, I PROMISE!

[baileyandkc]

Take her out and keep taking her out...

then report back to us how it went!

who knows, in a few months, you might be living together, the love of your life.

[Legend]

Blaming that you couldn't take anyone out in public because of society is pathetic,no one should let society dictate how they live their life,you'll always gonna be sheltered and paranoid if you think like that.If someone really lives on what society thinks of them they should really think about therapy.The OP even said the girl was pretty maybe he should just tell her the truth so she could find a guy who isn't ashamed to take her out in public.

[jaycanuck]

http://www.hungangels.com/board/files/fucksociety_350_icon_124.gif

Great graphic!

[Teydyn]

Honestly the OP was a little crass in his initial response, and I understand why people would be bothered by such a post but give the dude a break.

I can tell you from personal experience that you will never be "ready" as some people are saying. It is something that takes getting used too and once you go out a few times and start to have a good time everything else just comes into place.

A lot of the girls on here don't like to hear this, and I think that's completely understandable. However this is a fact that a lot of guys have to deal with the first time they go out with a TG woman. It is not fair, but it is a consequence of our prejudice society. It is sad that we live in such a culture but that is the reality.

So anyway, if you like her GO OUT! Try and have fun, once you start having fun you will slowly forget about everything else, I PROMISE!
Best answer IMO.

And i bet all of you were nervous the 1st time...

[NYTSJulie]

Tell her you think she looks like a man and you are embarrassed to take her out in public because someone may think you are gay... wait... if you think she is a man and you are attracted to her then... Oh wait .... let me not stir this one up again...

lol

[alyssats]

I just dont get it you want to have a relationship with her but you cant accept here for what she are?

[NYBURBS]

Blaming that you couldn't take anyone out in public because of society is pathetic,no one should let society dictate how they live their life,you'll always gonna be sheltered and paranoid if you think like that.If someone really lives on what society thinks of them they should really think about therapy.The OP even said the girl was pretty maybe he should just tell her the truth so she could find a guy who isn't ashamed to take her out in public.

You're either a) kidding yourself or b) suffering from a mental illness if you don't care or feel any pressure from society about something on some level. Granted you shouldn't get too wrapped up on what every other person thinks about every detail of your life, but nevertheless a normal human being is going to feel some amount of pressure.

This guy is just voicing the same concerns that virtually every other guy has felt before doing something that society in general would find unacceptable. Perhaps it's not the best forum for him to have asked this, but then again there probably aren't that many places where he could ask this. People might be right that he's not quite ready, and I can understand how asking this might be offensive to some of the girls here. However, everyone on this board would do well to be a little more patient with each other, and perhaps even show some compassion.

PS- Btw Legend while you're busy telling us all about how you don't give a fuck what anyone in society thinks, perhaps you might pause a minute and upload some photos of yourself and all the TS girls you must take on public dates with that manly and brave bravado of yours.

[Danielle Foxx]

Honestly the OP was a little crass in his initial response, and I understand why people would be bothered by such a post but give the dude a break.

I can tell you from personal experience that you will never be "ready" as some people are saying. It is something that takes getting used too and once you go out a few times and start to have a good time everything else just comes into place.

A lot of the girls on here don't like to hear this, and I think that's completely understandable. However this is a fact that a lot of guys have to deal with the first time they go out with a TG woman. It is not fair, but it is a consequence of our prejudice society. It is sad that we live in such a culture but that is the reality.

So anyway, if you like her GO OUT! Try and have fun, once you start having fun you will slowly forget about everything else, I PROMISE!

Give him a brake??? How about taking ownership for your own fucking idiotic actions and thoughts? As far as I know he is someone of a certain age who is adult enough to know this is a ridiculous way to treat anyone.

Unfortunately when I was younger I went with guys who would date me from " The door in ", and I would fall for the boyfriend crap and sorry excuses for us not going out in public.

I feel sorry for this girl and others who have to deal with this sort of oppression and further more for those who raise their kids to be haters.

This isn't about "OHHHHHH poor guy " crap. It is about you being a man and standing up for what you believe. Stand up and say " the hell with it" this makes me happy and that is what I want for myself and everyone else. Don't share your misery with others especially those who have to deal with it on a regular basis from people like your parents for example.

I known men to stay in relationships with gorgeous genetic females just to impress their family and friends, people stay in unhappy marriages for the most stupid of reasons. I have always thought marriage was the most beautiful union between two souls, for sickness and in health, till death do us part. But these words just seem to fly out of people's mouths these days.

We are too worried about the way other's see us, we need to get internal happiness before we can make anyone else happy.

Fuck all of those who are embarrassed of trans women. May you burn in hell with your ungodly sins - or maybe a priest can hit you upside the head with a bible - that would be a lot more fun to watch!

[Danielle Foxx]

This guy is just voicing the same concerns that virtually every other guy has felt before doing something that society in general would find unacceptable. Perhaps it's not the best forum for him to have asked this, but then again there probably aren't that many places where he could ask this. People might be right that he's not quite ready, and I can understand how asking this might be offensive to some of the girls here. However, everyone on this board would do well to be a little more patient with each other, and perhaps even show some compassion.

If you have to live your life for others you are not living - you are existing !

You are not a man if you cannot live for yourself! What is between your legs is a sorry excuse for your poor judgement and behavior.

[TsVanessa69]

hey all hope your good
ive just started dating a ts, shes pretty, wonderful body and great fun to be with.
the prob is weve only met once at her place and im off to meet her tomorrow night to stay the weekend with her, the plan is quiet night in on friday and go out on sat night. (heres my problem) she wants to go out to a resteraunt (excuse crappy sp) for meal and well im bricking it in case someone says anything.
we did go out in public 1st time but literally accross road to get take out
what should i do?
tell her im not comfortable going out yet?
or just go for it and hope for the best?
any guidance much appreciated and please no timewasters
thanks in advance
Dave

I have encountered guys with that issue, and the first time we do go out, they realize it wasnt anything to be worried about in the first place. When we are out in public, there is no flashing sign above our heads saying :Tranny". One of the reasons society doesn accept us is because the men who date us, date us behind closed doors. If more men would man up and be seen with us in public, society on a whole would be more open and accepting of us.

[Legend]

Blaming that you couldn't take anyone out in public because of society is pathetic,no one should let society dictate how they live their life,you'll always gonna be sheltered and paranoid if you think like that.If someone really lives on what society thinks of them they should really think about therapy.The OP even said the girl was pretty maybe he should just tell her the truth so she could find a guy who isn't ashamed to take her out in public.

You're either a) kidding yourself or b) suffering from a mental illness if you don't care or feel any pressure from society about something on some level. Granted you shouldn't get too wrapped up on what every other person thinks about every detail of your life, but nevertheless a normal human being is going to feel some amount of pressure.

This guy is just voicing the same concerns that virtually every other guy has felt before doing something that society in general would find unacceptable. Perhaps it's not the best forum for him to have asked this, but then again there probably aren't that many places where he could ask this. People might be right that he's not quite ready, and I can understand how asking this might be offensive to some of the girls here. However, everyone on this board would do well to be a little more patient with each other, and perhaps even show some compassion.

PS- Btw Legend while you're busy telling us all about how you don't give a fuck what anyone in society thinks, perhaps you might pause a minute and upload some photos of yourself and all the TS girls you must take on public dates with that manly and brave bravado of yours.


Of course i've felt pressure when i was younger but now i know better,i'm not letting total strangers affect me or possibly make me hurt someone i care about.I tend to care about love ones rather then strangers i'll never see again in my life.


PS i applied this to everyone if i wanted to date a girl with one arm i would, if i wanted to date a fat chick i would and i wouldn't care about what strangers thought of me,i live for myself.If you consider not hurting love ones a manly thing then oh well.

[TsVanessa69]

Honestly the OP was a little crass in his initial response, and I understand why people would be bothered by such a post but give the dude a break.

I can tell you from personal experience that you will never be "ready" as some people are saying. It is something that takes getting used too and once you go out a few times and start to have a good time everything else just comes into place.

A lot of the girls on here don't like to hear this, and I think that's completely understandable. However this is a fact that a lot of guys have to deal with the first time they go out with a TG woman. It is not fair, but it is a consequence of our prejudice society. It is sad that we live in such a culture but that is the reality.

So anyway, if you like her GO OUT! Try and have fun, once you start having fun you will slowly forget about everything else, I PROMISE!

Give him a brake??? How about taking ownership for your own fucking idiotic actions and thoughts? As far as I know he is someone of a certain age who is adult enough to know this is a ridiculous way to treat anyone.

Unfortunately when I was younger I went with guys who would date me from " The door in ", and I would fall for the boyfriend crap and sorry excuses for us not going out in public.

I feel sorry for this girl and others who have to deal with this sort of oppression and further more for those who raise their kids to be haters.

This isn't about "OHHHHHH poor guy " crap. It is about you being a man and standing up for what you believe. Stand up and say " the hell with it" this makes me happy and that is what I want for myself and everyone else. Don't share your misery with others especially those who have to deal with it on a regular basis from people like your parents for example.

I known men to stay in relationships with gorgeous genetic females just to impress their family and friends, people stay in unhappy marriages for the most stupid of reasons. I have always thought marriage was the most beautiful union between two souls, for sickness and in health, till death do us part. But these words just seem to fly out of people's mouths these days.

We are too worried about the way other's see us, we need to get internal happiness before we can make anyone else happy.

Fuck all of those who are embarrassed of trans women. May you burn in hell with your ungodly sins - or maybe a priest can hit you upside the head with a bible - that would be a lot more fun to watch!

BITCH you hit the nail on the head. These men need to man the fuck up and stop being so bitchass about being seen with us in public. I see it like this, if I am woman enough to give you some head and ass, you should be man enough to treat me like a woman in ALL aspects. I tell guys if the relationship is soley sexual and inside my house, thats a service, and I should be paid for my time.

[TsVanessa69]

show her the url to this website. I am curious to see her take on the subject :))
THANK YOU!! And guys wonder why so many girls escort. Ive said it before and I'll say it again, as long as men treat me like a dirty secret, I'm gonna keep charging. Dont look down on us because we are smart enough not to let men use us as a fuck and dash. Look at yourselves and how you treat us.

[jaycanuck]

or maybe a priest can hit you upside the head with a bible - that would be a lot more fun to watch!

Would that be new or old testament? :wink:

[arnie666]

hey all hope your good
ive just started dating a ts, shes pretty, wonderful body and great fun to be with.
the prob is weve only met once at her place and im off to meet her tomorrow night to stay the weekend with her, the plan is quiet night in on friday and go out on sat night. (heres my problem) she wants to go out to a resteraunt (excuse crappy sp) for meal and well im bricking it in case someone says anything.
we did go out in public 1st time but literally accross road to get take out
what should i do?
tell her im not comfortable going out yet?
or just go for it and hope for the best?
any guidance much appreciated and please no timewasters
thanks in advance
Dave

Mate, you call this a relationship so obviously you are saying to people on this forum that she isn't just a spunkdump right? So if so why then are you getting cold feet about taking her out and doing the normal things couples do? treating her like you would any other girlfriend? And if anyone says anything about her , you defend her like you would any other girlfriend.

I understand where you are coming from.Iam not one of the trans/shitstabber/homo rights brigade you get on here.Iam obviously not a transexual female who has her head in the clouds and only sees thngs from a limited perspectiveI do live in the real world. I know what my friends and family would be like if I started dating a TS. Let alone people on the street if any clocked her. But if I really liked a TS and she was more than just a spunkdump , I wouldn't just be hiding in my or hers apartment I would be showing the world and saying fuck them! Because I know my mates who were mates would stick by me , family is family and as for strangers sod them! So by the sounds of it she is either not that important to you or you just are not ready for it.

[Buhdook]

so let me get this straight
all you guys jumped straight and didnt give a fuck or you just banged escorts til your wallet dried out? or you think yr cool cos you hide out in clubs behind closed doors only spilling out onto street to be seen with gals with enough guts only after a dozen or so jack and cokes piss easy in my opinion!
all you gals i suppose didnt feel at all nervous about going out for that 1st time dressed ?
cummon im only human its right to be nervous its natural just like giving that cute ass that passed you one more quick glimpse
you may all free to take the piss i really dont give a fuck
i will be going out with her and ill enjoy and make most of it cos iwant to and thats what its all about init?Dave, I'm going to go out on a limb here and take a guess...but it English your second language? I'm having a hell of a time deciphering what you're writing!

[alyssats]

show her the url to this website. I am curious to see her take on the subject :))
THANK YOU!! And guys wonder why so many girls escort. Ive said it before and I'll say it again, as long as men treat me like a dirty secret, I'm gonna keep charging. Dont look down on us because we are smart enough not to let men use us as a fuck and dash. Look at yourselves and how you treat us.

wow such a nice post I love it

[NYBURBS]

double post woops

[NYBURBS]

If you have to live your life for others you are not living - you are existing! You are not a man if you cannot live for yourself! What is between your legs is a sorry excuse for your poor judgement and behavior.

Danielle I understand you are going to have a certain perspective, and for the most part I would agree with you. I am a pretty self confident guy, and I have been on public dates with TS girls; however I'd be lying if I said I wasn't worried or overly conscious of the event the first couple of times. Now I'm at the point where it doesn't matter to me if someone snickers or says something under their breath, but that doesn't mean that I can't understand this guy and try to give him some advice.



Of course I've felt pressure when i was younger but now i know better,i'm not letting total strangers affect me or possibly make me hurt someone i care about.I tend to care about love ones rather then strangers I'll never see again in my life.

PS I applied this to everyone if i wanted to date a girl with one arm i would, if i wanted to date a fat chick i would and i wouldn't care about what strangers thought of me,i live for myself.If you consider not hurting love ones i manly thing then oh well.

Look Legend I completely understand the whole family and close friends issue, and I'd be lying if I said it's not something I've considered also. In fact while there might be someone worth rocking that boat for I'd certainly make sure of it first.

My main point to you in the earlier post though was that most people have been where this guy currently is, and a little compassion and encouragement go a long way. Dismissing him as unfeeling, or thoughtless, or pathetic (which are all things various ppl have said here) is just not the way to go in my personal opinion. Of course ppl are free to disagree me.

[Legend]

My main point to you in the earlier post though was that most people have been where this guy currently is, and a little compassion and encouragement go a long way. Dismissing him as unfeeling, or thoughtless, or pathetic (which are all things various ppl have said here) is just not the way to go in my personal opinion. Of course ppl are free to disagree me.

How else are you to interpret when someone says they are embarrassed to be with someone in public but unfeeling, thoughtless, and pathetic.Just because they are transgender doesn't mean they feel any different from any other girl if you tell her you don't want to be with them in public.

[bossman]

take her out.

of course you'll be nervous about someone seeing you but when it's all done you'll be glad you did it

[TsVanessa69]

My main point to you in the earlier post though was that most people have been where this guy currently is, and a little compassion and encouragement go a long way. Dismissing him as unfeeling, or thoughtless, or pathetic (which are all things various ppl have said here) is just not the way to go in my personal opinion. Of course ppl are free to disagree me.

How else are you to interpret when someone says they are embarrassed to be with someone in public but unfeeling, thoughtless, and pathetic.Just because they are transgender doesn't mean they feel any different from any other girl if you tell her you don't want to be with them in public.

The 2 things I notice most that guys bitch and moan about with ts are this:
1. Most ts are escorts, nobody meets up for fun.
A guys version of fun with a ts is, come over maybe smoke a blunt, fuck, nutt and leave.
You can't call them when you need somebody to talk to. You not going with me to the club to chill and you not even gonna walk with me to McDonald, yet have the balls to get mad because I want to be compensated for my time. Fuck that! If all I'm good for is a fuck, then you gotta pay me for that fuck, because you are acting like a TRICK!
2. Why do ts like thugs?
Plain and simple, the guy man enough to go out with me, be seen in public with me, is a thug. These pussy ass bitchs who hate on thugs and why they get no love from ts , NEWSFLASH!!!! We are human, we need affection and friendship just like evrybody else. So what if you havce a legit job???? That doesnt make you man enough to deal with a ts. That means you have business sense. I'll take a caring thug over a pussy ass white collar anyday!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[TsVanessa69]

show her the url to this website. I am curious to see her take on the subject :))
THANK YOU!! And guys wonder why so many girls escort. Ive said it before and I'll say it again, as long as men treat me like a dirty secret, I'm gonna keep charging. Dont look down on us because we are smart enough not to let men use us as a fuck and dash. Look at yourselves and how you treat us.

wow such a nice post I love it
Its the truth. I used to escort to pay for stuff I needed done, thinking when I got all pretty and worked, men would treat me different, they don't .So if I'm gonna be used and left aside, pay me, that way I can enjoy a lavish lifestyle alone, then be broke and alone. With all the men bitching and moanning on sites like these about ts this and ts that, only 1 in 10000 have actally even seen a ts in real time.

[jaycanuck]

My main point to you in the earlier post though was that most people have been where this guy currently is, and a little compassion and encouragement go a long way. Dismissing him as unfeeling, or thoughtless, or pathetic (which are all things various ppl have said here) is just not the way to go in my personal opinion. Of course ppl are free to disagree me.

How else are you to interpret when someone says they are embarrassed to be with someone in public but unfeeling, thoughtless, and pathetic.Just because they are transgender doesn't mean they feel any different from any other girl if you tell her you don't want to be with them in public.

The 2 things I notice most that guys bitch and moan about with ts are this:
1. Most ts are escorts, nobody meets up for fun.
A guys version of fun with a ts is, come over maybe smoke a blunt, fuck, nutt and leave.
You can't call them when you need somebody to talk to. You not going with me to the club to chill and you not even gonna walk with me to McDonald, yet have the balls to get mad because I want to be compensated for my time. Fuck that! If all I'm good for is a fuck, then you gotta pay me for that fuck, because you are acting like a TRICK!
2. Why do ts like thugs?
Plain and simple, the guy man enough to go out with me, be seen in public with me, is a thug. These pussy ass bitchs who hate on thugs and why they get no love from ts , NEWSFLASH!!!! We are human, we need affection and friendship just like evrybody else. So what if you havce a legit job???? That doesnt make you man enough to deal with a ts. That means you have business sense. I'll take a caring thug over a pussy ass white collar anyday!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Disagree with both points, but that's ok. Everyone has opinions.

[pnwguy24]

The response to this thread is absolutely ridiculous. Every single person has trouble coming to terms with themselves related to this issue. Be it the girls having to be open and honest with their family about being transgendered, dealing with transitioning while working in public etc etc... Guys that date trans women go through struggles as well. It takes TIME to get used to. I never said it was right, or fair, but its a fact deal with it. Its easy to say you should just " be yourself" and not give a fuck. I agree that we all should be ourselves, and love who we love and not care what others think. That does not mean that is easy, and there is no pressure or nervousness involved. This is a reality of the world we live in. I am open with everyone I know, and really don't care what people think. But you know what, growing up when I was younger it was hard. It was confusing and scary. That is a natural fucking reaction to the culture we live in. I speak from the perspective of someone who has dated TG's openly and honestly. I was always proud of whoever I was with, but I would be LYING if I said I wasn't a little nervous or hesitant the first or second time. Most of these guys just refuse to tell it straight.

[TsVanessa69]

My main point to you in the earlier post though was that most people have been where this guy currently is, and a little compassion and encouragement go a long way. Dismissing him as unfeeling, or thoughtless, or pathetic (which are all things various ppl have said here) is just not the way to go in my personal opinion. Of course ppl are free to disagree me.

How else are you to interpret when someone says they are embarrassed to be with someone in public but unfeeling, thoughtless, and pathetic.Just because they are transgender doesn't mean they feel any different from any other girl if you tell her you don't want to be with them in public.

The 2 things I notice most that guys bitch and moan about with ts are this:
1. Most ts are escorts, nobody meets up for fun.
A guys version of fun with a ts is, come over maybe smoke a blunt, fuck, nutt and leave.
You can't call them when you need somebody to talk to. You not going with me to the club to chill and you not even gonna walk with me to McDonald, yet have the balls to get mad because I want to be compensated for my time. Fuck that! If all I'm good for is a fuck, then you gotta pay me for that fuck, because you are acting like a TRICK!
2. Why do ts like thugs?
Plain and simple, the guy man enough to go out with me, be seen in public with me, is a thug. These pussy ass bitchs who hate on thugs and why they get no love from ts , NEWSFLASH!!!! We are human, we need affection and friendship just like evrybody else. So what if you havce a legit job???? That doesnt make you man enough to deal with a ts. That means you have business sense. I'll take a caring thug over a pussy ass white collar anyday!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Disagree with both points, but that's ok. Everyone has opinions.
I'm only stating facts.
The guys who bitch and moan about ts only escoting /and or dating thugs are the same guys who have never seen a ts in real life unless it was for an escort service. Not one of those guys has taken us out to a movie, dinner or even McDonalds. I hear it time and time again. Even from my paying clients, about how they like me and it shouldnt be about the money. Then I ask them where are we going when we go out and they cum up with the: "Well you have to understand, what if somebody thinks I'm gay" bullshit. So if you not man enough to do normal shit with us, shut the fuck up, keep paying or stick to females!

[dan_drade]

hey all hope your good
ive just started dating a ts, shes pretty, wonderful body and great fun to be with.
the prob is weve only met once at her place and im off to meet her tomorrow night to stay the weekend with her, the plan is quiet night in on friday and go out on sat night. (heres my problem) she wants to go out to a resteraunt (excuse crappy sp) for meal and well im bricking it in case someone says anything.
we did go out in public 1st time but literally accross road to get take out
what should i do?
tell her im not comfortable going out yet?
or just go for it and hope for the best?
any guidance much appreciated and please no timewasters
thanks in advance
Dave

Hey Dave,
The first thing is that you have to be comfortable going out in public. But that doesnt mean that you have to take her to the local bar where all your friends hang out. It's really difficult to go out with a Transgendered girl for the first time. Most guys that date T-girls have had this issue in the beginning including myself. The first girl I dated ended up dumping me after about six months for just that reason.

My suggestion to you is to maybe go somewhere that is very GLBT friendly. I don't know where you live, but there is probably a GLBT community nearby. This way you wont have to feel so uncomfortable being out in publc. It is a lot easier when you know that everyone around you is accepting of you and your girl.

If you end up dating her for a long time, you will eventually have to come out at some point in tim, but you can deal with that when the time is right.

I don't know if everyone here will agree with what I have said, but that is how I handled it when I first started dating and it made me feel a lot more comfortable. I also helped put things in perspective with me and the whole GLBT community.

[alyssats]

I seconded Vanessas post well i cant conclude all men but most guys are

Some guys they contact TS girls owww im dont like to be your client I want to be your friend. They said they dont pay to have sex. Then you hang out with them but they dont really treat you more of a friend but mostly as a sex object.

Your treating them as friend but in return you couldnt feel they are treating you as a friend in return. So weird just like to have a free ride and take advantage of your niceness. Careful careful careful!

[jaycanuck]

My main point to you in the earlier post though was that most people have been where this guy currently is, and a little compassion and encouragement go a long way. Dismissing him as unfeeling, or thoughtless, or pathetic (which are all things various ppl have said here) is just not the way to go in my personal opinion. Of course ppl are free to disagree me.

How else are you to interpret when someone says they are embarrassed to be with someone in public but unfeeling, thoughtless, and pathetic.Just because they are transgender doesn't mean they feel any different from any other girl if you tell her you don't want to be with them in public.

The 2 things I notice most that guys bitch and moan about with ts are this:
1. Most ts are escorts, nobody meets up for fun.
A guys version of fun with a ts is, come over maybe smoke a blunt, fuck, nutt and leave.
You can't call them when you need somebody to talk to. You not going with me to the club to chill and you not even gonna walk with me to McDonald, yet have the balls to get mad because I want to be compensated for my time. Fuck that! If all I'm good for is a fuck, then you gotta pay me for that fuck, because you are acting like a TRICK!
2. Why do ts like thugs?
Plain and simple, the guy man enough to go out with me, be seen in public with me, is a thug. These pussy ass bitchs who hate on thugs and why they get no love from ts , NEWSFLASH!!!! We are human, we need affection and friendship just like evrybody else. So what if you havce a legit job???? That doesnt make you man enough to deal with a ts. That means you have business sense. I'll take a caring thug over a pussy ass white collar anyday!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Disagree with both points, but that's ok. Everyone has opinions.
I'm only stating facts.
The guys who bitch and moan about ts only escoting /and or dating thugs are the same guys who have never seen a ts in real life unless it was for an escort service. Not one of those guys has taken us out to a movie, dinner or even McDonalds. I hear it time and time again. Even from my paying clients, about how they like me and it shouldnt be about the money. Then I ask them where are we going when we go out and they cum up with the: "Well you have to understand, what if somebody thinks I'm gay" bullshit. So if you not man enough to do normal shit with us, shut the fuck up, keep paying or stick to females!

Ohhh sorry. My mistake. I missed the "guys who bitch and moan". Different context. My bad.

[phobun]

hey all hope your good
ive just started dating a ts, shes pretty, wonderful body and great fun to be with.
the prob is weve only met once at her place and im off to meet her tomorrow night to stay the weekend with her, the plan is quiet night in on friday and go out on sat night. (heres my problem) she wants to go out to a resteraunt (excuse crappy sp) for meal and well im bricking it in case someone says anything.
we did go out in public 1st time but literally accross road to get take out
what should i do?
tell her im not comfortable going out yet?

Here's some advice: grow some balls and start to act like a man. A relationship should not be hindered by a prissy, self-centered woossy who hides in the closet and is too afraid to be seen in public with his girlfriend.

[Marilyn]

You are nervous about what people might say or think when/if they see you with her out in public.
First, if you are thinking that way then may be she still very clockable (not that it really matters), however, that doesn't stop you from enjoying sex with her does it?
In other words, you worry about people that would never give you what she gives you sexually...but yet...you rather keep it a secret.......Then Keep paying for sex! Geeeshhhh! 2009 and still this issues!
Lawd help us all!

[scroller]

hey all hope your good
ive just started dating a ts, shes pretty, wonderful body and great fun to be with.
the prob is weve only met once at her place and im off to meet her tomorrow night to stay the weekend with her, the plan is quiet night in on friday and go out on sat night. (heres my problem) she wants to go out to a resteraunt (excuse crappy sp) for meal and well im bricking it in case someone says anything.
we did go out in public 1st time but literally accross road to get take out
what should i do?
tell her im not comfortable going out yet?
or just go for it and hope for the best?
any guidance much appreciated and please no timewasters
thanks in advance


Hey Dave, I say good for you, sounds like you have a pretty good thing shaping up.

Now, I'll say this: I understand where you're coming from but you probably will draw heat if you drag your feet on this. Personal anecdote: Started going out with my first serious girlfriend (gg), went about 6 months and she started making noise about why didn't I bring her to my parents. I said, "Look, my parents are nuts," and she started bawling and making a scene about how I was ashamed of her, I'm using her, etc. Okay, so pretty soon I take her with me on a trip to my parents. Afterwards, she's apalled and offended and upset by how cold, emotionally distant, rude, and wierd they are, and we drive away with her crying in the car, etc. LOL.

Anyway you're not terrible, you're just growing through this. The people throwing the "you're terrible" drama at you are really just a bunch of queens in denial (that's how chicks act, IME), and they're probably a bit jealous that you're working to develop and actual relationship here.

You're going to have to take her out. Find a place you're comfortable with, throw your shoulders back, and go do it. Feel free to IM me if you need someone to talk to afterwards.

[Helvis2012]

Dude, live your life.
Who gives a shit what anyone thinks. If you don't, others won't. Don't empower oppressive douchebags.

[Detroit]

man up, a t-gurl IS a real woman! Take her out treat her like a lady and fuck everyone else, you have made your choice in life.

[alyssats]

man up, a t-gurl IS a real woman! Take her out treat her like a lady and fuck everyone else, you have made your choice in life.

Youre such a man my dear, yes go for it go go go

[daveskarety]

man up, a t-gurl IS a real woman! Take her out treat her like a lady and fuck everyone else, you have made your choice in life.

That's what I did, go with your heart, you WON'T regret it!