Job Opportunities?

[RubyTS]

I dont expect this thread to last long. Everyone talks smack about how an escort should stop hoeing and find a legit job, lets see how many of them stop flapping their lips at the chance to downtalk a ts and start actually helping!

I've been considerring getting back into the SO CALLED real world. I know jobs are scarce right now with the economy screwed up, but it would be nice to have a regualr routine and commute with all the "normal" people again.

So if anyone knows of any good job opportunities that will not discriminate against TS women please feel free to post. Im gr8 with people, well spoken and a quick learner. And i'm looking for something in the area of secretary/receptionish/assistant/clerical work.

BTW im asking all my clients about potential job oppotrtunities as well. I've already been offered a job in NJ at a hilton hotel :P

[RubyTS]

just like i figured........

[longwave]

I've already been offered a job in NJ at a hilton hotel :P

:lol:

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

I'll discuss my thoughts in chat ;)

cheap plug

[jaycanuck]

Ruby...it's tough out there. I'm sure someone would speak up if they were in your area (outside NJ/NY is kind of pointless).

I'm a graphic designer with 12 years experience and it's a struggle even for me. I can suggest something that helped me when I arrived in Toronto. I hooked up with a head hunter for graphic designers. I was getting steady work for about a year...before the economy started taking a dive. Perhaps hook yourself up with a temp / head hunting agency.

But the ultimate suggestion I have for you is school. Most of the time employers need to see credentials (unless you have around 10 years experience ). Where you're starting down a path, it's probably a good idea to train towards the career you want. A lot of schools will also place you in jobs towards the end of the course.

Just some thoughts. I hope you land something.

[jaycanuck]

Just another warning. And I'm not saying this person offering you a job is like this...but I have tgirl friends here who have been "offered" work or something to that effect. I've learned that people could be after something more in these situations. Just be careful.

[CaptainGeech]

If you want a job like that I would suggest contacting a local temp agency. If you have decent typing skills (good word per minute speed) and you aren't asking for an insane amount you should be able to find something. Usually these positions are temporary but if you show skill and work hard they can become permanent. I am actually looking for work myself but have put off contacting my local agency because I don't want to be stuck behind a desk all day. Unfortunately for me I cant fall back on being a hot in demand escort. :wink:

[RubyTS]

O and btw i do have college experience. I was 3 months from my assoc. in fashion design. I do plan on returning.

[TomSelis]

Verizon and At&t are hiring. Verizon is pretty trans-friendly. AFAIK they're always hiring...for something.

http://www22.verizon.com/jobs/search/searchresults/searchresults.htm?q=&b=false,false,true,false,false&c=Customer%20Service,%20Call%20Center%20and%20Oper ator|&l=US-NJ-,US-NY-&i=false&cg=false

or how about an MTA operator?

They start and like $27 or $28 and hour. It's a $60 application fee though.

http://www.nyc.gov/html/dcas/downloads/pdf/noes/200808098000.pdf

[Tika]

If you're serious, it would be a good idea to sit down with an employment counselor and figure out what you have for marketable skills. Being an escort means you've got a big gap in your work experience - that's going to have to be explained in some cases.

It would be a good idea as well to drop ANY kind of attitude you have. You're not going to get the kind of money you did as an escort. You're also going to have to work with people, not just shake your ass and get easy money. There's a reason people become escorts, I find. It's usually because they've got no other useful skills. That and they're lazy.

Also, don't get it in your head that any specific business discriminates against transwomen. It's on a case by case basis. If you make a good impression with a person, they may well hire you no matter what the official business position is. Conversely, you may apply to a "trans-friendly" business and not get anywhere just because you've got nothing to offer.

Being an escort is not a career. It's a job, and a poor one at that. Sure, the money's good, but most of you just piss it away on expensive clothes, jewelry, etc. and don't save or invest. You're not building any useful job skills, unless you want to fuck your way into getting hired.

Good luck, but I doubt you'll make it - to be quite honest. If you had the fortitude or temperament to work at a real job, you'd have done it already instead of choosing to be a whore.

[TomSelis]

She's asking to be pointed in the right direction, not lectured or shitted on.

[RubyTS]

i dont have the energy to argue anymore, nor do i feel it necessary either. Defending myself wasnt my interest in starting this thread. If u have nothing of use to add then please feel free to continue jerking off to pics in other threads

[GroobySteven]

We have a potential job available. Work from home - you'd have to pretty much spend most of the time surfing, cutting and pasting and sending emails.

It's a fairly menial job and it may be beneath your expectations (as may the pay) but it might tide you over until you find something better?

admin@grooby.com

[RubyTS]

Please pm me details searchai :)

[jjhill]

If you're serious, it would be a good idea to sit down with an employment counselor and figure out what you have for marketable skills. Being an escort means you've got a big gap in your work experience - that's going to have to be explained in some cases.

It would be a good idea as well to drop ANY kind of attitude you have. You're not going to get the kind of money you did as an escort. You're also going to have to work with people, not just shake your ass and get easy money. There's a reason people become escorts, I find. It's usually because they've got no other useful skills. That and they're lazy.

Also, don't get it in your head that any specific business discriminates against transwomen. It's on a case by case basis. If you make a good impression with a person, they may well hire you no matter what the official business position is. Conversely, you may apply to a "trans-friendly" business and not get anywhere just because you've got nothing to offer.

Being an escort is not a career. It's a job, and a poor one at that. Sure, the money's good, but most of you just piss it away on expensive clothes, jewelry, etc. and don't save or invest. You're not building any useful job skills, unless you want to fuck your way into getting hired.

Good luck, but I doubt you'll make it - to be quite honest. If you had the fortitude or temperament to work at a real job, you'd have done it already instead of choosing to be a whore.

Yo! If you can't say nothing positive, keep it to yourself. Don't be disrespectful and judgemental! People like you piss me off

[RubyTS]

pay him no mind he doesnt know me or my capabilities. some people just say things on here for shock value. I dont respect the opinions of people i dont know or dont respect

[jjhill]

pay him no mind he doesnt know me or my capabilities. some people just say things on here for shock value. I dont respect the opinions of people i dont know or dont respect

alright cuz I didn't respond the way I wanted to. I was polite about it, and good luck rubes! the music industry suffering big time. I would try to plug you, but all the companies I know been laying people off! If I hear of anything I'll let you know!

[RubyTS]

Thanx babe :) Have that bottle ready to celebrate when i get good news

[jjhill]

You welcome, and you already know it's going down!

[TomSelis]

Damn, I didn't get a thank you....

[CaptainGeech]

You should have no problem getting those types of jobs with having college experience. Having ANY college experience is HUGE when it comes to resumes in those fields. Even if you only went for one semester.

For the time you have spent escorting you can easily come up with BS job titles for your resume: Personal assistant, masseuse, tour guide, personal trainer, marriage counselor, model, makeup artist, etc... Having contact information for them might be a pain but if you have enough friends it shouldn't be a problem. None of those would be a real lie since I am sure you have done all of them in your line of work. Not in the traditional sense but still. You having such an active online persona might hurt you if they do a background check though.

[boogeyman2]

If you lived in Australia I would give you a job as my P.A.

[RubyTS]

LOL thank you TTOM

I get regular payments from niteflirt.com for the past few years. Im already aware of the fact that i might have to explain my absence. Im much better with dealing with people. I've gotten every job i ever applied for and i have experience in so many fields. I figure being a receptionist or a personal assistant or something of that nature would be a good choice for me right now. Im pleasant to be around, and to look at ;) and i'm professional. I speak well, write well and im very creative/artistic. I would love to get into the field of fashion and design, but i will glady work my way there.

[LTR_Seeker]

your got tons of talent even thoughthavent met you in persion but read many of your posts you do have talent from your thoughts your skilled

[RubyTS]

Thanx babe, i know im destined for more. All that i've been through is just stepping stones

[Tika]

pay him no mind he doesnt know me or my capabilities. some people just say things on here for shock value. I dont respect the opinions of people i dont know or dont respect

It's "she", not "he", you ignorant tramp. I'm starting to see where your employability is headed from the way you're reacting and expressing yourself.

This is why I'm a transwoman working in the medical field as a caregiver, bettering myself and being respected by my employer - and you're sucking cock for money.

It's people like me that make the world a better place by providing a positive example for the public. You and the other TS's working in the sex industry drag the rest of us down - the ones that want to be more than just sex objects.

I really don't give a fuck if it's judgemental, holier-than-thou, or whatever. I'm better than you and that's all there is to it. I'm sick and fucking tired of you shallow, plastic skanks thinking that big fake tits and silicone-injected hips make you a better person somehow.

[RubyTS]

lol someones got issues... honey take it up with ur shrink, its not my fault u look like a beast

[flabbybody]

sounds like tika needs a good f--k
sweetie, you're one bitter person

[SophiaI]

These "thing" has alot of nerves to be posting on a sexual related site, making itself feel good by saying how grand and fab "he/ she" is and blah blah.!!
just because she has a real job. I bet she gets clocked and laughed on just like the other girls do in public, so you see she is not that different, "it "has no reason to be making negative comments about escorts, because i'm sure she once did and and if she needed SHE WILL DO IT AGAIN. darling take the I'm so fab because im a nurse line someone-were else! people choose to live their lives how they want! and you are NO ONE to judge.

I applaud every girl who escorts (everyone has different reasons why they do it) but let me tell you darling its the oldest profession thru out human history, people think that its easy and what not, but its not! you run a risk of getting a psychopath or getting any kind of stds, thats why if you are going to play the game play it right.

people need to stop worrying about what others are doing with themselves wither its good or bad and fix their own life because i bet its not all that grand and Fabulous as they claim.

Bring it to the judges! brick!

[SarahG]

You and the other TS's working in the sex industry drag the rest of us down....

...I really don't give a fuck if it's judgemental, holier-than-thou, or whatever. I'm better than you and that's all there is to it. I'm sick and fucking tired of you shallow, plastic skanks thinking that big fake tits and silicone-injected hips make you a better person somehow.

Hmm, that's open to interpretation. If we're going to start arguing over "what trans girls drags the trans community down & how" there is plenty of blame to go around.

Its at best a weak argument to start drawing such lines based on occupation, especially given all the late transitioners who work "real jobs" then wake up one day, pre-everything, tell their boss (on a friday afternoon) that they're going to be fulltime (pre-everything) monday morning, and then throw shit fits when they're fired for it.

Does getting surgeries et al make someone a "better person"? Hell no, but tolerance is all about perception and perception can never improve if all the public ever sees are 50 y.o. unpassable, pre-everything midlife crisis transitioners at 9 to 5 jobs.... and it certainly won't ever improve if the general public thinks its some impulsive, rash "decision" or that transitioning is simply a "makeover & new wardrobe."

Reality is there are a lot of trans girls out there, in a lot of types of employment who are "better" or "worse" than others. Those distinctions aren't drawn by the type of employment, and they're not even drawn by passability (note I said that "if all the public ever sees...").

As to whether or not you're "a better person", I really don't know who you are, or what your situation is, and would only be able to speculate on that point (just as I'd only be able to speculate on that point for Ruby).

Now if I were to speculate on that point, I would have to take issue with any fucked up wacko-land logic that leads people to conclude that a "better person" would get pugnacious towards someone who is trying to "better them self." A better person would not respond to an entertainer trying to switch professions, reaching out for help, by saying "well, I doubt you'd succeed anyway." It's comments like that which cause "entertainers" to think they're better than those with "normal jobs."

[Quiet Reflections]

pay him no mind he doesnt know me or my capabilities. some people just say things on here for shock value. I dont respect the opinions of people i dont know or dont respect

It's "she", not "he", you ignorant tramp. I'm starting to see where your employability is headed from the way you're reacting and expressing yourself.

This is why I'm a transwoman working in the medical field as a caregiver, bettering myself and being respected by my employer - and you're sucking cock for money.

It's people like me that make the world a better place by providing a positive example for the public. You and the other TS's working in the sex industry drag the rest of us down - the ones that want to be more than just sex objects.


I really don't give a fuck if it's judgemental, holier-than-thou, or whatever. I'm better than you and that's all there is to it. I'm sick and fucking tired of you shallow, plastic skanks thinking that big fake tits and silicone-injected hips make you a better person somehow.

Why the fuck do you get on this site? Escorting is in fact the oldest profession. But anyway, For you to make a judgment like that based off the little you know her from her posts shows your ignorance. I know quit a few whores that went through the nursing program at the college near me and while they weren't " making the world better" for so called good money they were getting drunk and sucking cock for a shot of jagermiester, a cigarette and a backhanded compliment. if you really want to be positive instead of looking down on the ladies in the industry why don't you leave your holy pedestal and get the word out to the youth of America about tolerance of your fellow man. A job doesn't make a man it just pays his bills what you do in general has zero bearing on how good of a person you are. Example you have a good job and you are clearly a shitty person

[RubyTS]

:claps for reflections and sarah

[msbhaven]

We have a potential job available. Work from home - you'd have to pretty much spend most of the time surfing, cutting and pasting and sending emails.

It's a fairly menial job and it may be beneath your expectations (as may the pay) but it might tide you over until you find something better?

admin@grooby.com

I'd like to hear more about your job seanchai. It can't be much (if any) more menial and low pay then my current job. And who knows if it's work at home I might be able to do it and my regular job too. You can PM me or email me to share details if you don't want to list them publicly.

Ashlee

[Odelay]

Ruby, I am impressed how you handle yourself on this board. Often times, like in this thread, you don't take the bait on people trying to drag you down. Other times, when it seems timely and appropriate, you don't back down, you stand your ground, and dish it right back. Your stories are well written, and your concerns are legit, most of the time. If I remember right... you're in your mid or late 20's, and I'd say you're quite mature and experienced in life. Those are things that will come in handy in the broader workforce.

A couple of ideas....

Take a good look at your work history, even those jobs from way back when. When I take inventory of some of my very early jobs (30 yrs ago!), I marvel at how different they were... glass cutter, unloading produce trucks, putting up hay for farmers, back room food preparation, and hardware stock boy. Some of these jobs I really enjoyed. My point is there could be some hidden diamonds in your employment history that are a good fit for a position today.

Second, think about possible jobs that might be needed in this down economy. One that comes to my mind is someone who has initiative to put together housing co-ops, or even help transition people btwn housing situations. It's not just the foreclosed upon who are looking for new housing. Many others are economizing, going from solo living situations to group situations. Go to rental placement agencies, etc., and tell them you're interested in helping them fill up their apartments, houses, etc.

No knock against secretary, admin asst jobs... but your extroverted personality is largely wasted there. Show an employer you work well with the public and can close a deal, and they'll hire you. And if there's one thing good escorts are good at... it's closing the deal. 8)

Good luck!

[RubyTS]

LOL. Thats the best advice given to me so far, and im very impressed that u take notice of how i handle myself on here. Thaks so much.

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

my .02 cents

Tika I've read what you had to say in response to Ruby's question posted here in this thread and quite honestly it's appalling. She genuinely asked a question to better her life and you IMO looked to tear her down mentally. Your choice of words towards her were demeaning and my question to you is: What would you do if you were fired tomorrow and no other temp agency or medical provider offered to hire you? Please don't bullshit around saying you wouldn't consider escorting because let's face it, unless you're a crossdresser and can still throw on some dockers and a dress shirt you'd have a difficult time landing a job in these dire times.

Is it possible that you could have been sincere and humane towards Ruby and possibly told her how you slithered into the medicare field? Sure it is.....

Is it possible you could have supported someone who like it or not is a sister of yours in this lifestyle? Sure it is

Yet the best response you had was to try and insult her and anyone else like her on this forum who might have been curious about taking the path she's starting to walk.

Shame on you.................

JWBL™

[blckhaze]

http://www.hrc.org/issues/workplace/11832.htm

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

my .02 cents

Tika I've read what you had to say in response to Ruby's question posted here in this thread and quite honestly it's appalling. She genuinely asked a question to better her life and you IMO looked to tear her down mentally. Your choice of words towards her were demeaning and my question to you is: What would you do if you were fired tomorrow and no other temp agency or medical provider offered to hire you? Please don't bullshit around saying you wouldn't consider escorting because let's face it, unless you're a crossdresser and can still throw on some dockers and a dress shirt you'd have a difficult time landing a job in these dire times.

Is it possible that you could have been sincere and humane towards Ruby and possibly told her how you slithered into the medicare field? Sure it is.....

Is it possible you could have supported someone who like it or not is a sister of yours in this lifestyle? Sure it is

Yet the best response you had was to try and insult her and anyone else like her on this forum who might have been curious about taking the path she's starting to walk.

Shame on you.................

JWBL™

MOD EDIT

So let me get this straight you insulted Ruby for asking that question but you used to do this?


I used to work for FemmCams and it wasn't all that great. The income was more supplemental than primary, if you know what I mean.

Their rates used to be $1 a minute to the customer with the performer getting 40% of that. It's now at $1.50 a minute and 50% to the performer, which is about double - more reasonable, but still not a living wage.

Most of the time I just sat in my chair and read, listened to music or surfed websites. Most of the guys were pretty down to earth. A few just act like pigs. "Show ass. Show tits. Show cock." then they leave after like a minute. There was a lot of dead time during a session, but it's a fairly small site.

Anyways, if you have spare time during a day, it's not a bad way to pass the time. Don't depend on it for steady income though.

YOU FUCKING HYPOCRITE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Fuck outta here, people like you are the worst!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[flabbybody]

chalk one up for the mod

[barefootjoe69]

Ruby, Times are tuff right now but whatever you do, just believe in yourself and don't give up.
Good things will eventually come!

[2009AD]

It's people like me that make the world a better place by providing a positive example for the public. You and the other TS's working in the sex industry drag the rest of us down - the ones that want to be more than just sex objects.

Someone has not noticed that HA is a sex site.

[BLKGSXR]

It's people like me that make the world a better place by providing a positive example for the public. You and the other TS's working in the sex industry drag the rest of us down - the ones that want to be more than just sex objects.

Someone has not noticed that HA is a sex site.
And yet you have not noticed Im only guessing that she is telling people things from deep inside and that people should have the common courteousy that if they reply to be nice and not a ass and reply ill to her....Not saying that you are just stating what some people should do and its not only a sex site.

[Floyd R]

Ruby, you have the tools to succeed at whatever career you choose after escorting. What's making you want to get out of the escort business at this time?

[RubyTS]

Mainly boredom and the need to feel PURPOSE. Aside from that the social and dating aspects of living a life as an escort are lackluster. The people i encounter aren''t on the same level as me and i really want genuine friends. Dating will be hard because i have already developed major trust barriers but im willing to take a chance and see if people on the outside are any different. I don't dislike what i do, it has its ups and downs and im not planning on quitting escorting just yet, just mostly trying to explore other possibilities. I know i have the potential for much more and i'd like to challenge myself.

[phobun]

Ruby, I am impressed how you handle yourself on this board. Often times, like in this thread, you don't take the bait on people trying to drag you down. Other times, when it seems timely and appropriate, you don't back down, you stand your ground, and dish it right back. Your stories are well written, and your concerns are legit, most of the time. If I remember right... you're in your mid or late 20's, and I'd say you're quite mature and experienced in life. Those are things that will come in handy in the broader workforce.
I agree, you're smart and it is clear you have a good temperment and heart. So from what I've seen I bet you'd be phenomenal as a counselor of some kind. It would enable you to work with people and you'd probably really excel but you wouldn't have to put up someone else's temper or impatience in the clerical-type jobs you mentioned.

As far as being out of the conventional workforce, that is easy, you could just say you were taking care of an sick family member. Doubt that anyone would fault that, since females are generally the caretakers and keepers of the family.

Big cities have job fairs for transgendered people, and that is a potential place to look. San Francisco and New York have had them. Here is a news story on one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owdp0A6vgNk
But given that you look like a natural girl you can probably compete with the best anyway, but it is an option to consider nonetheless...

[Shining Star]

Have worked in nursing, been a secretary, administrative assistant, sales assistant and god only knows how many mind numbing positions. Finally got wise to myself and started my own business, and have never been more happy.

From one trans to another, my first advice would be to decide if one wishes to work as a "trans" or pass as a female. Having done the later, am here to tell you it is nerve racking and not always the best of choices.

That being said, know of trans who are nurses, airline hostesses, and everything else in between.

Personally, just like many gays, finding running my own show a better way of earning a living. However it is not for everyone, as some people need the structure of a 9-5 job.

Best advice can give is the standard response to anyone seeking out career: find something you like to do and are good at (no, not sex, *LOL*) and try to earn a living that way. If you like what you do, then going to "work" is not a "job" but something fun.

If you look around closely, you will find lots of trannies and gays doing their own thing, and making a decent living.

Good luck!

SS

[jjhill]

Mainly boredom and the need to feel PURPOSE. Aside from that the social and dating aspects of living a life as an escort are lackluster. The people i encounter aren''t on the same level as me and i really want genuine friends. Dating will be hard because i have already developed major trust barriers but im willing to take a chance and see if people on the outside are any different. I don't dislike what i do, it has its ups and downs and im not planning on quitting escorting just yet, just mostly trying to explore other possibilities. I know i have the potential for much more and i'd like to challenge myself.

Hey rubes, I'm one of your genuine friends/homies lol! And I'm still refraining from yelling at Tika. Well no need to now JW took care of her

[TsVanessa69]

pay him no mind he doesnt know me or my capabilities. some people just say things on here for shock value. I dont respect the opinions of people i dont know or dont respect

It's "she", not "he", you ignorant tramp. I'm starting to see where your employability is headed from the way you're reacting and expressing yourself.

This is why I'm a transwoman working in the medical field as a caregiver, bettering myself and being respected by my employer - and you're sucking cock for money.

It's people like me that make the world a better place by providing a positive example for the public. You and the other TS's working in the sex industry drag the rest of us down - the ones that want to be more than just sex objects.

I really don't give a fuck if it's judgemental, holier-than-thou, or whatever. I'm better than you and that's all there is to it. I'm sick and fucking tired of you shallow, plastic skanks thinking that big fake tits and silicone-injected hips make you a better person somehow.
Funny how as a silicone injected sex worker, I made a smooth transition into the work field and now work 20 hours for a community based organization as a peer educator, where I parlayed my expierences into helping other girls to better their lives, get legal help and get their lives on track and do things the legal way. My expierence has lead me to speak at several universaties on the trans expierence and how society and straight people played a role in the path my life took. So no bitch I didnt drag andbody down, I lifted myself up and am bringing up those around me up who want to make a difference, and am pointing the younger generation in the right and safe direction.
Miss Ruby my sister I am proud that you are speaking out on making a change. I;m sorry that you are not in my city and I cannot get you the help you are looking for. I wish you the best!

[TsVanessa69]

my .02 cents

Tika I've read what you had to say in response to Ruby's question posted here in this thread and quite honestly it's appalling. She genuinely asked a question to better her life and you IMO looked to tear her down mentally. Your choice of words towards her were demeaning and my question to you is: What would you do if you were fired tomorrow and no other temp agency or medical provider offered to hire you? Please don't bullshit around saying you wouldn't consider escorting because let's face it, unless you're a crossdresser and can still throw on some dockers and a dress shirt you'd have a difficult time landing a job in these dire times.

Is it possible that you could have been sincere and humane towards Ruby and possibly told her how you slithered into the medicare field? Sure it is.....

Is it possible you could have supported someone who like it or not is a sister of yours in this lifestyle? Sure it is

Yet the best response you had was to try and insult her and anyone else like her on this forum who might have been curious about taking the path she's starting to walk.

Shame on you.................

JWBL™
Its people like Tika that made me stay off this site for a while. A certain girl on here thought to make herself more appealing to those on here she would constantly attack me and even went so far as to make up lies about me. The reality of it all is some girls have low self esteem and need to put others down to make themselves look better. Life takes us down many paths and my past expierences have made me the stronger person and I have taken on a leadership role within both of my communitys. I say both, because I work in the Puerto Rican community, and I am a part of the trans community. I'm not ashamed to have done what I had to do to get where I wanted to be in my life. My advice to Ruby since many larger citys have resources within the community to find her work. A trans or gay help center is a good start. Doing comunity based work is always a good place to start. maybe even try volunteering a few hours to get seen and known and make contacts. Always point out the fact that you are ready to work. We as trans woman, need to make ourselves more visible in mainstream society.

[peggygee]

Ruby, we've updated the Transfriendly Job Listings (http://www.hungangels.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=16294) thread,
perhaps there is something there currently that you might
be interested in, or they may be something that a employer
has open that was previously posted.

At any rate, best of luck.

If there is anything that I can do to be of assistance, don't hesitate
to PM me.

[SoCaliDude]

This post speaks to the sheer ignorance most people have toward escorts GG/TS’s.

Their job is not easy money and for many it is the only option. Many escorts turn to business as a last resort not because they are lazy or for the GLA M of selling their souls to unsavory characters.

Most people, especially men, simply can’t fathom the psychological turmoil and physical havoc TS girls must endure to change genders.
My hat comes off to any TS woman who has transitioned and remains somewhat sane.

Ruby, good for you for you! Transitioning out of the biz and into mainstream is yet another hurdle you ladies must endure in an effort to rejoin the regular work force. Just like your name, Ruby, you are a precious jewel.

Godspeed Ruby!

[SarahG]

http://www.hrc.org/issues/workplace/11832.htm

Do NOT trust that list.

HRC's mechanism for grading companies for LGBT tolerance does not really care much about the trans component, you'll find every company listed on HRC's site is going to be completely hit or miss for someone who is trans.

[blckhaze]

http://www.hrc.org/issues/workplace/11832.htm

Do NOT trust that list.

HRC's mechanism for grading companies for LGBT tolerance does not really care much about the trans component, you'll find every company listed on HRC's site is going to be completely hit or miss for someone who is trans.


its just something i was passed. thought it could help.

[SarahG]

http://www.hrc.org/issues/workplace/11832.htm

Do NOT trust that list.

HRC's mechanism for grading companies for LGBT tolerance does not really care much about the trans component, you'll find every company listed on HRC's site is going to be completely hit or miss for someone who is trans.


its just something i was passed. thought it could help.

It might help in that it would stand to reason that a company that is tolerant towards gay guys might also be more trans tolerant than, say, working for Focus on the Family.

But, since HRC doesn't give a shit about trans issues, and doesn't put a lot of weight on it in making their lists like these, it can be entirely hit or miss as to what the company would think about hiring a trans person,or providing trans health care, or in prohibiting trans harassment. Although I wouldn't expect a gay friendly company to react to a trans applicant like Focus on the Family would... being gay is more accepted in the corporate world (and that's a big reason why HRC keeps dropping trans inclusion, they think if they take trans inclusion out of stuff like ENDA- they can say "after all, we're just normal conservative gay guys- we're not like those freaks over there.").

[igotmacedbymimi:(]

Mainly boredom and the need to feel PURPOSE. Aside from that the social and dating aspects of living a life as an escort are lackluster. The people i encounter aren''t on the same level as me and i really want genuine friends. Dating will be hard because i have already developed major trust barriers but im willing to take a chance and see if people on the outside are any different. I don't dislike what i do, it has its ups and downs and im not planning on quitting escorting just yet, just mostly trying to explore other possibilities. I know i have the potential for much more and i'd like to challenge myself.

Good attitude!

First things first:

Get back to college and finish your education, i dont know why you stopped but it was the worst thing you couldve done.

Secondly, when you have completed and passed your education you must find out from the career's advisors your best path. You could do this right away if you went back to your college and you explained to them your current situation, im sure that they would be sympathetic, they are there to help you succeed in life. It would be upsetting to them to find out that someone in their college has become a prostitute.

Thirdly, you say you will get your qualification in fashion? What other experiences have you got? Have you worked in fashion or mall shops fashion before?

Perhaps you could get a job in a mall or high street for a brand right now. They must be looking for work. If it is part time it will work in three ways, firstly you can show any future employer that you worked during this period, you could say you were living with a boyfriend therefore you only worked part time. Secondly you also get a basic (low) but basic wage which can keep you ticking over, i presume you will still be on the game at this stage so at least you can cut down your clients and gradually become part of normal life. Thirdly you will meet interesting people, you will be part of society again, you might meet nice guys in the mall as well, regular guys (by this, i mean regular jobs, not guys who see prostitutes, some good looking, friendly and peaceful guys who are there to work with you or in other shops.) You can also make contacts.

Then when you have completed your course you might have something more to offer them. Least of all you have some experience in retail to then show to a future employer. You could go further after college and try to go to university. If you can get a degree then you stand a very good chance of being hired by a fashion house, around $40-50k a year.

When in the fashion industry you will find that transexual discrimination is the last thing you think about.

The right path to take would be to go back to your college, explain how you are very unhappy and be honest with them about your life, how you have ended up like this and how you want to change.

Ive written this as advice to help you. You wont be able to get straight into a job because those higher paid jobs, which are harder to get these days due to the recession, are going to be given out to people with more experience and probably degrees.

Please do not listen to any other escort that comes on here and tells you 'girl power, you go girl, you go, keep selling that arse for dollars'.

Remember, this is your life. By making this post you seemed to have matured incredibly, it is welcoming to see. Now with the correct attitude and enough will power, give it a few more years of education (but you can still work in retail and other areas in the meantime, like any other young women is expected to do) then once you have that experience and eduation behind you, you will be ready to step upto a whole new level.

The level of being a classy woman, who has worked hard, someone who will get a good man, the type of man you are after, good looking, succesful, friendly, caring, hung etc and be able to live a regular life for a long time :)

It is there for you, all you have to do is reach out and take it! The first step (esspecially with trans women) is that you have to open your eyes in order to reach out. :)

[Celeste]

What was wrong with the hilton job, that you didnt take it? just curious. Im going to be job hunting AGAIN, soon as well.

[dan_drade]

Being an escort is not a career. It's a job, and a poor one at that. Sure, the money's good, but most of you just piss it away on expensive clothes, jewelry, etc. and don't save or invest. You're not building any useful job skills, unless you want to fuck your way into getting hired.

Good luck, but I doubt you'll make it - to be quite honest. If you had the fortitude or temperament to work at a real job, you'd have done it already instead of choosing to be a whore.

The words of a true Douchebag.

[dan_drade]

O and btw i do have college experience. I was 3 months from my assoc. in fashion design. I do plan on returning.

Maybe you should go back to school and finish your degree. That will give you something to go on when being interviewed. There are many people out there that are more than willing to hire someone that is Transgendered as long as they feel, you are qualified. I have hired a Transgendered woman before and it worked out well for me. I would have probably hired more if I could, but it's not like I get a ton of Transgendered applicants in my line of work.

[alyssats]

Big cities have job fairs for transgendered people, and that is a potential place to look. San Francisco and New York have had them. Here is a news story on one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owdp0A6vgNk
But given that you look like a natural girl you can probably compete with the best anyway, but it is an option to consider nonetheless...

wow i think this kind of transgender job fairs rock
and even SFPD looking for TG staff thats hot having Tgirl policeman/poliwoman jeje

[LTR_Seeker]

here in oklahoma city we had or still have i dont if she still ther had ts woman on the job but that been years ago .

[smokeslv]

Ruby...you might want to apply for work at a local college or university. I work in that field and we are still hiring for most positions...also most colleges and universities are very LGBT friendly and are unlikely to discriminate.

[LTR_Seeker]

Whats your burning passion career you want to pursue Ruby?

[russtafa]

nurseing ,davidjones dept store,grace brothers dept store=in australia

[Tika]

Yup, I used to work on FemmCams. It was... kinda fun, but was it escort work? No. There's a line there and yes, I think it's close, but there's no contact with people, just the webcam.

Have I ever exchanged sexual favours for cash? No. Never. Never would, never will. Again, there's a line I, personally, will never cross, out of pride. I'd rather die.

I live pretty modestly. Always have, always will. I've dealt with my share of shit, but I've been lucky to have strength of character and perseverance to carry me through. Yes, I've been desperate for money. I've been on welfare when nothing presented itself, work-wise. I hated it. I like earning my keep, MY way. I'm very intelligent and I don't like bullshit, so when I say something, it's blunt and to the point.

Amusing how a couple of shot from the girls are about my looks, as is so utterly typical. Very shallow and pointless, since none of you know what I look like. I'm *not*, in any way, a "brick", as it happens. If I get "clocked", so what? I'm a transsexual woman. It's just another variation of woman, like a black woman, or a short woman, or a this or that woman. I'd rather have someone realize I was born physically male and get over/past it to see that I'm an amazing person than live in fear of "discovery". FUCK hiding. That's for cowards.

Good luck getting out of "the life", Ruby. I hope it works. Try your hardest. It's not going to be easy. *Life* isn't easy.

To the people calling for "shame on you": Ummm. No. Shame on ALL of you, for supporting sex work, for living off it, for perpetuating a culture of shallowness and physical appeal, rather than reality. Shame on ALL of you for objectifying transsexual women and making it all about looks, making them insecure, making them feel inadequate unless they're silicone pumped caricatures of what real women look like.

All of you either want to fuck pornstar lookalike women with cocks, or you want to BE pornstar-lookalike women with cocks. God it's depressing. If all of you were any shallower, you'd be a puddle on the sidewalk.

Say the word transsexual and people conjure up images of the Maury freakshow parade, the Jerry Springer "She's a MAN, man!" bullshit, porn and sex work. I'm a normal person, trying to live a normal life. I don't have the time or energy to undo the damage all this nonsense causes me and my life.

Holier-than-thou? Yeah, maybe. I get ranty now and then. Deal. Am I going to apologize? No. Apologies are for the weak. I said what I said. I'll own it. I stand by everything. It's easy to be a whore.

You want me to be proud of you? Do some *real* work. Make a positive difference in the world. Don't just rent your ass for cash and think you're all that. *I* make a positive difference in the world.

[jjhill]

^^^^^^yo kind not wanted here^^^^^^

[RubyTS]

i dont know why i havent been recieving emails from replieds but im glad i checked back cuz it looks like i missed a lil bit. I just want to thank u all for ur contributions to this thread it has been very helpful and i have a lot to work with here.

[TomSelis]

Ever thought about being a flight attendant?

[RubyTS]

Im way too scared with all this plane crashing stuff, plus i cant go without cigarettes it would be torture

[BLKGSXR]

Im way too scared with all this plane crashing stuff, plus i cant go without cigarettes it would be torture SUCK IT UP WOMAN!!! got my phone im giddy :D

[Solitary Brother]

Ruby
I am so happy you are even CONSIDERING leaving escorting.
You have a great personality....I have told you that a million times and would be an asset to almost any company.
You will be of course facing different challenges working a legit job but you can handle anything thrown your way.
Good luck to you.

[LOAS]

Look your some what Famous
Perhaps you should refine your Craft
Most people succeed in life with what they are good at.
From what I understand you are your own BOSS
Maybe RUBY INC. needs to expand into other areas of the market.

- write a book
- make a new video with your name on it but not starring you
- start doing seminars for escorts or people who want to get into escorting
" in and out how to get into escorting"
- Be a TGIRL consultant

the list goes on Ruby. Its one thing to be your own HO but to be a HO and work for someone Else (burger flipper, customer service rep, cashier, ect)
now that really sucks

[flabbybody]

Im way too scared with all this plane crashing stuff, plus i cant go without cigarettes it would be torture

statsically there's a much better chance of getting killed in a car accident.
As far as cigs, you can't smoke in offices anymore so just about any job nowadays requires long stints between smoke breaks

[LTR_Seeker]

i know a ts woman Ruby through another website she workedin a office in i think queens im not familar with layout of nyc but she worked there was paid decent money & was the office manager in title