Fucking crime... I can't take it anymore!

[justatransgirl]

It's getting ridiculous...

This morning I'm coming home from dropping Jessica off at her college and as I turn off the freeway there were like 20 police cars. The other ramps were blocked and the whole freeway going the other way was blocked off by police cars. WTF?

Luckily I could make the turn toward our complex. As I turned I see a cop on the side of the road with a clipboard, at his feet was a stainless semi-auto pistol lying in the road. WTF?

Now to set the rest of the scene. Jessica and I are going to be moving soon. We currently live in a nice area of San Diego called Mission Valley that is mostly large condo communities and the regional shopping centers. Where we currently live the crime has been getting worse. Even in our guarded complex both my cars have been broken into inside the garage. Several cars have been stolen out of the complex right past the stupid guards. There was a shootout about a year ago down the street at the 7-11. And now this.

We have been looking to buy a house on Mission Bay, figuring we'd get away from the crime and be able to have our boats readily accessible and have a great party pad. But it seems no place is safe anymore.

So on the 6 o'clock news what happened was that a couple's BMW was carjacked outside their house by three armed men right in the middle of the residential area that we are planning to move to. Then they apparently had a shootout with the cops on the freeway about 3 blocks from our current house.

Fucking crime is everywhere. Maybe we will move to Montana.

Sigh,
TS Jamie :-)

[T Oracle]

Almost zero gun crime in the UK and it's quite difficult to live far from the sea.

[Jolt711ml]

It's just gonna get worst almost 5 million people laid off. Luckily I'm not affected but I got robbed twice in past 3 months so I do feel the pain.

[Jericho]

Almost zero gun crime in the UK and it's quite difficult to live far from the sea.


Almost zero gun crime over here? :?
Wanna re-think that one?

[T Oracle]

Almost zero gun crime in the UK and it's quite difficult to live far from the sea.


Almost zero gun crime over here? :?
Wanna re-think that one?

Murders per capita (latest figures)

USA. World rank 24th highest. 0.043/1000.
UK. World rank 46th highest. 0.014/1000.

UK 2006. Total gun killings 57.

City of Philadelphia. By 13th Oct 2007, 315 murders (mainly guns) for 2007. That's Philadelphia only, not the US total. Philadelphia is ranked as the 6th worst city in the US.

So the answer to your question is no, I don't want to re-think.

Where do you live?

Links for the stats.
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/cri_mur_percap-crime-murders-per-capita
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2007/jan/26/ukcrime.immigrationpolicy
http://www.keystonepolitics.com/story/regional-news/philadelphia/city-death-philadelphia-murder-rate-highest-nearly-20-years

[El Nino]

Move of the state, or at least up to Humboldt County...

[Jericho]

Where do you live?

The UK.

[T Oracle]

Where do you live?

The UK.

That I knew. Which part?

I'm middle aged and have lived mainly in (UK) cities all my life.

I have never, 1st hand, seen or heard knife crime.
I have never, 1st hand, seen or heard gun crime. News, yes. In person, no.

The policewoman killed (by a gun) about a year or so ago was wearing the body armour of choice in the UK - stab proof rather than gun proof - because we've got relatively low rates of violent crime, and the majority of what we've got is knife related.

So which part do you live in? Is it some sort of gun alley? Do you have 1st hand experience of gun crime?

[Jericho]

I'm middle aged and have lived mainly in (UK) cities all my life.

Sadly, so am i.
Currently, i live in a sleepy little welsh town where nothing ever happens (on the surface).
In the past, various cities in the course of work.



I have never, 1st hand, seen or heard knife crime.
I have never, 1st hand, seen or heard gun crime. News, yes. In person, no.

I'm curous about what you class as gun-crime, what's your yardstick?
So far, you seem to be relating it to murder per capita alone.
Yes, we have fewer murders, but year on year, whether you see it or not, gun-crime is on the increase.

A recent news story (there were plenty of others to choose from)

http://www.thisissomerset.co.uk/news/Undaunted-teenager-threatened-firearm/article-666604-detail/article.html

And that's turnip-cruncher country fer chrissakes!!! :shock:


So which part do you live in? Is it some sort of gun alley? Do you have 1st hand experience of gun crime?

If you mean, have i seen someone shot, then no.

[SarahG]

If you mean, have i seen someone shot, then no.

I know a lot of people in Philadelphia who've never actually seen someone get shot to death...

[thx1138]

As economic fears rise - families on the verge of unraveling. http://www.usatoday.com:80/news/health/2009-02-01-economy-stress_N.htm?loc=interstitialskip

[thx1138]

@ Jamie: what are you going to do when Schwartzeneggar declares bankruptcy this weekend?

[thx1138]

@ Jamie: are you going to accept state issued IOU's as payment for your services? :>)

[thx1138]

@ Jamie: are you going to accept state issued IOU's as payment for your services? :>)

[T Oracle]

I'm middle aged and have lived mainly in (UK) cities all my life.

Sadly, so am i.
Currently, i live in a sleepy little welsh town where nothing ever happens (on the surface).
In the past, various cities in the course of work.



I have never, 1st hand, seen or heard knife crime.
I have never, 1st hand, seen or heard gun crime. News, yes. In person, no.

I'm curous about what you class as gun-crime, what's your yardstick?
So far, you seem to be relating it to murder per capita alone.
Yes, we have fewer murders, but year on year, whether you see it or not, gun-crime is on the increase.

A recent news story (there were plenty of others to choose from)

http://www.thisissomerset.co.uk/news/Undaunted-teenager-threatened-firearm/article-666604-detail/article.html

And that's turnip-cruncher country fer chrissakes!!! :shock:


So which part do you live in? Is it some sort of gun alley? Do you have 1st hand experience of gun crime?

If you mean, have i seen someone shot, then no.

My response to the OP was meant to be a little lighter than the OP, as I don't expect anyone to relocate from San Diego to the UK on crime statistics.

My responses to you have been more considered. It was not a case of having a go, nor of belittling. I simply wondered if you had personal experience of gun crime that undermined the national stats. Or if you happened to live in an area where gun crime was more prevalent.

The second link I provided in my references runs something like 'Gun Crime and Murder Rate Down'. So either gun crime is down, or Gordon is cooking the books.

PS. Up for a snowball fight? England V Wales? I live in England but I'm Scots so perhaps that makes it a 3 way? I get the impression that that while you live in Wales you might not be Welsh. What are we we up to?

Two way? Three way? Four way? All in the best possible taste!

[Helvis2012]

New York is getting a little wacky again. A lot little gang kids running around with guns, playing cowboys and indians. Naturally, the little pricks never hit their targets and it's usually the poor schmuck passing by who gets it.

[sdtgfan]

Mission Valley is full of condo complexes and business complexes that criminals can blend into. Plus, when they steal your car they've got quick access to four freeways. I live in Normal Heights and we've got our share of crime up the hill from you, that's life in the big city.

[justatransgirl]

@ Jamie: are you going to accept state issued IOU's as payment for your services? :>)

LOL :-) No IOU's here baby, we're strictly cash and carry! Though I will accept Rolex watches, diamonds, and BMW's. :-) :-)

As for El Nino's suggestion of moving to Humbolt county, I don't think so sweetie. We were up in Eureka a couple of summers ago and I was chatting with the girl who runs the local sex toy shop. She said the bible thumpers were picketing her business and had actually vandalized the store. I can just imagine what our reception would be.

LOL,
TS Jamie :-)

[T Oracle]

If you mean, have i seen someone shot, then no.

I know a lot of people in Philadelphia who've never actually seen someone get shot to death...

I had no intention on picking on the good people of Philly.

It's just that I chanced upon an official list of the people murdered in 9 months in Philly some time ago and I thought FUCK that has to be more than the UK.

Stats. UK - population = 60 million. Philly - population = ?

Then I compared murders. And the obvious question comes up.

Why does a city like Philly murder 5 or 6 times more frequently than the entire population of the United Kindom?

For the record. I have visited Philly twice. Did the touristy bit. The touristy bit is very nice. Liberty Bell. How you are all free and equal.

My total time in the US on various visits is close to zero. I reckon 6 weeks max.

Never saw a gun crime. Never saw a knife crime. Never saw a crime of any sort.

OK I have to retract. Various peeps offered to sell me various drugs in central New York, which I'm pretty sure is/was a crime.

But no evidence of violence from my time in the US.

Also for the record. The UK does not allow you to use 'unreasonable violence' against someone who breaks into your home. Here, I prefer the American way of doing things. If some wankstain breaks into your house and threatens to to kill you, it seems perfecly reasonable for me (one) to shoot said fuckers head off

[SarahG]

If you mean, have i seen someone shot, then no.

I know a lot of people in Philadelphia who've never actually seen someone get shot to death...

I had no intention on picking on the good people of Philly.

It's just that I chanced upon an official list of the people murdered in 9 months in Philly some time ago and I thought FUCK that has to be more than the UK.

Stats. UK - population = 60 million. Philly - population = ?

Then I compared murders. And the obvious question comes up.

Why does a city like Philly murder 5 or 6 times more frequently than the entire population of the United Kindom?

For the record. I have visited Philly twice. Did the touristy bit. The touristy bit is very nice. Liberty Bell. How you are all free and equal.

My total time in the US on various visits is close to zero. I reckon 6 weeks max.

Never saw a gun crime. Never saw a knife crime. Never saw a crime of any sort.

OK I have to retract. Various peeps offered to sell me various drugs in central New York, which I'm pretty sure is/was a crime.

But no evidence of violence from my time in the US.

Also for the record. The UK does not allow you to use 'unreasonable violence' against someone who breaks into your home. Here, I prefer the American way of doing things. If some wankstain breaks into your house and threatens to to kill you, it seems perfecly reasonable for me (one) to shoot said fuckers head off

You misunderstand me, I am not far from Philly and I can attest to how much violent crime that city has had in the last year in terms of cops getting killed (and I've been in that dunken donuts before), murders, shootings etc- but even with it being "as bad and out of control as it is," I don't know anyone who lives in Philly who has actually SEEN that violence first hand.

Does it happen? Absolutely. Is it a problem? Absolutely. But its not common to the point where every single citizen of that city has been a witness of it.

[russtafa]

people who live in western democracys must expect crime and the more democracys decaye the more crime build up. in years to come its going to get far worse especialy if the democracy is very liberal

[justatransgirl]

double post...

[justatransgirl]

Ahem... someone is trying to hijack my thread... just don't do it... LOL

PS: Tijuana beats you both - with over 380 killings in 2008.

Giggles,
TS Jamie :-)

[Caff_Racer]

@ Jericho: That story in Somerset (sorry: Zummerrzet :lol: :lol: ), sounds like pikeys to me. I would have thought that true native West Country "Oi be drinkin' zoider" types would still be getting to grips with blunderbusses let alone sawn-off shotguns or handguns :lol: :lol:

[OEMEnemyNum1]

Not many gun crimes where I live (even though everyone owns a gun). I'm in that part of the country that 1 person goes on a serial style killing spree, but these are usually picked on hs kids.

[Jericho]

My responses to you have been more considered. It was not a case of having a go, nor of belittling.

Didn't think they were.
I'm just an abrasive fukker! :lol:


I simply wondered if you had personal experience of gun crime that undermined the national stats.

Like i said, i've never seen anyone shot.


PS. Up for a snowball fight? England V Wales?

Brrrrrrrrr, do not mention the snow!!!
I've had enough of it already! :lol:


I get the impression that that while you live in Wales you might not be Welsh.

Not the land of my fathers :wink: , but born here.

[Jericho]

@ Jericho: That story in Somerset (sorry: Zummerrzet :lol: :lol: ), sounds like pikeys to me. I would have thought that true native West Country "Oi be drinkin' zoider" types would still be getting to grips with blunderbusses let alone sawn-off shotguns or handguns :lol: :lol:


They were still working on the sling, whacking apples at each other last time i was down that way! :lol:




:P @ Jamie :lol:

[smoof]

i live in humboldt and it is not to bad here just alot of hippies and rednecks. the bad thing here is that there is not alot going on so most of the time i am either golfing, surfing or rideing my quad on the beach or my familys ranch. not much of a drinker so i dont go out to the bars all the much.

[justatransgirl]

LOL - yeah smoof - it's the rednecks that worry me... LOL

And surfing? What you mean with the Great Whites - in the 45 degree water?

No thanks honey. I have a house across the bay from the Wedge in Newport , and my condo is like 15 minutes from Wind an Sea in San Diego, I think I'll just clean my Glock...

Giggles,
TS Jamie :-)

[tg4me]

I've lived in San Diego many times over the last 30 years. Sad that mission valley is now considerd a crime area. Overall I think the beach area might give you the same problem. Too many younger guys willing to rip anyone off for their own benefit. On the other hand , OB,MB, PB are cool places to live. Better than my last place....El Cajon !

Well I haven't been any help, but if I was there I would enjoy giving you a spanking.

[smoof]

just got to wear a wetsuit if ya surf here and the odds of a great white getting you is extreamly remote all you have to do is stay away from the mouth of the river cuz that is where they feed on the seals.

[justatransgirl]

I've lived in San Diego many times over the last 30 years. Sad that mission valley is now considerd a crime area. Overall I think the beach area might give you the same problem. Too many younger guys willing to rip anyone off for their own benefit. On the other hand , OB,MB, PB are cool places to live. Better than my last place....El Cajon !

Well I haven't been any help, but if I was there I would enjoy giving you a spanking.

LOL, my bottoms hot and ready... :-)

Yeah, the carjack thing happened right at Crown Point in PB. It was actually pretty unusual. Most of the "crime" in PB involves drunks at the beach. And El Cajon - well at least you can get a condo there for like 30 grand now...

LOL,
TS Jamie :-)

Oh yeah, thanks Smoof, I'll get what like a 5/8 inch suit? LOL :-) And I have to admit, no place is really safe. A few years ago a whale carcass washed up by the Newport jettys with two great whites hitting it while the Harbor Patrol tried to tow it back out to sea. You could actually see the splashes and the sharks from the bluff about a quarter mile away. They were probably 18-20 feet long.

And dumb ass here went surfing with some other idiots anyway. We figured they preferred whale over surfers.