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sammy2
01-23-2009, 01:01 AM
Why is it every TS I have ever seen in my life has a price tag ?

I'm not the type of guy who is just out to have sex, I would really like to meet an average TS who isn't hustling away her body.

I live in Toronto with no clue of where to start looking.

I hate this :twisted:

saifan
01-23-2009, 01:08 AM
Dude, are you schizo or being treated for mental illness?

tsntx
01-23-2009, 01:08 AM
have you tried beating one up? maybe that will work

sammy2
01-23-2009, 01:11 AM
Dude, are you schizo or being treated for mental illness?

Are you crazy ? what kind of stupid question is that ?


beating one up ? I have never met a normal one outside the escort scene.

saifan
01-23-2009, 01:12 AM
Read back your posts, man. Perfectly reasonable question.

BeardedOne
01-23-2009, 01:14 AM
Best advice:

Stop looking.

Seriously, I met more TS before I realized I had a fetish/interest in them than I have since I landed in the middle of T-world here.

They're out there, beyond the adult entertainment world. I've met programmers, artists, contractors, consultants. And contrary to the old saw that the 'stealth' gurls aren't 'attractive', I've met a fair number that made my balls bounce just by saying "Hello".

Yah, it's chance, but sometimes chance is kind.

sammy2
01-23-2009, 01:26 AM
Read back your posts, man. Perfectly reasonable question.

Am I suppose to pretend like I know TS who aren't for sale ?

tsntx
01-23-2009, 01:28 AM
Read back your posts, man. Perfectly reasonable question.

Am I suppose to pretend like I know TS who aren't for sale ?


"hi im looking for love. i dont sell my body or escort. i want a real man who would be proud to be seen with ..... wait. Is that your dick? Oh wow. Sorry I'm not looking for sex... if all you want is sex... go get a hooker. Bye"

Helvis2012
01-23-2009, 01:29 AM
Something tells me you'd have a hard time getting laid laid in a morgue.

Good luck.

saifan
01-23-2009, 01:30 AM
I said "posts" as in every post you have made. And this one from me will be the last directed at you.

You are either a troll, a religious nut, or mentally ill. Either way you are a terrible addition to this site. Your best bet is to log-off and forget the address.

sammy2
01-23-2009, 01:31 AM
Read back your posts, man. Perfectly reasonable question.

Am I suppose to pretend like I know TS who aren't for sale ?


"hi im looking for love. i dont sell my body or escort. i want a real man who would be proud to be seen with ..... wait. Is that your dick? Oh wow. Sorry I'm not looking for sex... if all you want is sex... go get a hooker. Bye"

Can you quit talking crap to me ?

When I want sex from you I will PM you and ask you for some. It's that simple...

I guess you just don't get it.

tsntx
01-23-2009, 01:32 AM
i guesss you dont get it either faggot

trying to help a brotha out

get a clue, buy a vowel.... and get with the program idiot

sammy2
01-23-2009, 01:33 AM
I said "posts" as in every post you have made. And this one from me will be the last directed at you.

You are either a troll, a religious nut, or mentally ill. Either way you are a terrible addition to this site. Your best bet is to log-off and forget the address.

Dog are you serious ? I joined this website in Jul of 08, and i'm sure I made less than one hundred post.

lahabra1976
01-23-2009, 01:34 AM
Why is it every TS I have ever seen in my life has a price tag ?

I'm not the type of guy who is just out to have sex, I would really like to meet an average TS who isn't hustling away her body.

I live in Toronto with no clue of where to start looking.

I hate this :twisted:

patience

sammy2
01-23-2009, 01:36 AM
i guesss you dont get it either faggot

trying to help a brotha out

get a clue, buy a vowel.... and get with the program idiot

What if I like showing my body, proud of it and enjoy making others view it ? Can you be more compact in your thoughts ? Instead of having the predictable opinions about everything ?

Hendrix
01-23-2009, 01:53 AM
i guesss you dont get it either faggot

trying to help a brotha out

get a clue, buy a vowel.... and get with the program idiot

What if I like showing my body, proud of it and enjoy making others view it ? Can you be more compact in your thoughts ? Instead of having the predictable opinions about everything ?

Dude...relax and don't be so uptight. Maybe you will find the right girl if you are at the right place. I don't think all TS women try to sell their bodies all the time. Even if some do sell their bodies that their business.
Ask yourself this,how open would you be with a TS woman with your friends and family? How conformable will you be in public with her?

sammy2
01-23-2009, 02:18 AM
i guesss you dont get it either faggot

trying to help a brotha out

get a clue, buy a vowel.... and get with the program idiot

What if I like showing my body, proud of it and enjoy making others view it ? Can you be more compact in your thoughts ? Instead of having the predictable opinions about everything ?

Dude...relax and don't be so uptight. Maybe you will find the right girl if you are at the right place. I don't think all TS women try to sell their bodies all the time. Even if some do sell their bodies that their business.
Ask yourself this,how open would you be with a TS woman with your friends and family? How conformable will you be in public with her?

I know it would be a cake walk to be in public with her, but I have a Jamaican family - Extrermely homophobic.

brickcitybrother
01-23-2009, 03:02 AM
Your fuzzy avatar tells a big part of the story. But if you're looking for a TS who isn't selling their body .. good luck. I have found that to be near impossible. HOWEVER, if you're looking to get to know people ... you just may find out that one of them HAPPENS to be transsexual. When you realize that you have relationships with people, but simple sex with bodies ... you'll talk about people when you're serious and bodies when you're horny.

sammy2
01-23-2009, 03:08 AM
Your fuzzy avatar tells a big part of the story. But if you're looking for a TS who isn't selling their body .. good luck. I have found that to be near impossible. HOWEVER, if you're looking to get to know people ... you just may find out that one of them HAPPENS to be transsexual. When you realize that you have relationships with people, but simple sex with bodies ... you'll talk about people when you're serious and bodies when you're horny.

Are you a fag ?

Only fags have opinion on other men appearance.

Teydyn
01-23-2009, 03:20 AM
Why is it every TS I have ever seen in my life has a price tag?


Are you a fag ?

Only fags have opinion on other men appearance.
And with a friendly attitude like that you REALLY wonder?

MrShow52
01-23-2009, 03:24 AM
haha what a nut, hey black dude, are you a fag? cause guys who like penis are fags!

sammy2
01-23-2009, 03:31 AM
Problem solved..

Hey black dude ? Is that how you greet black guys offline ?

hondarobot
01-23-2009, 03:38 AM
I have no real advice to give you, but this: Get employed at a GLBT nightclub and some stripper clubs.

I hang out with naked girls every day, and I get paid for it.

:wink:

sammy2
01-23-2009, 03:39 AM
I have no real advice to give you, but this: Get employed at a GLBT nightclub and some stripper clubs.

I hang out with naked girls every day, and I get paid for it.

:wink:

How much do they pay to work at a club ?

hondarobot
01-23-2009, 03:42 AM
The pay is lousy, and I haven't had a raise in five years. Can't really complain though. :shrug

tsntx
01-23-2009, 04:18 AM
i guesss you dont get it either faggot

trying to help a brotha out

get a clue, buy a vowel.... and get with the program idiot

What if I like showing my body, proud of it and enjoy making others view it ? Can you be more compact in your thoughts ? Instead of having the predictable opinions about everything ?

dumbass. thats all fine and dandy you like ure pp but YOURE the one looking for a non-working girl.... non-working girls DONT want to see your dick... you cant figure out why all the girls try to upsale you? i just told you why.

blckhaze
01-23-2009, 04:28 AM
normal?

While I understand fellas not wanting a chick who hasnt been with all the guys in your city, most girls want the same thing. And if your going to whine about it, be able to replace the income they get or shut up. They dont just pop up out of the ground, fully transformed saying "oh please marry me"

fitz207
01-23-2009, 04:47 AM
haha what a nut, hey black dude, are you a fag? cause guys who like penis are fags!
Then why are at this website??

Legend
01-23-2009, 05:07 AM
Why is it every TS I have ever seen in my life has a price tag ?

I'm not the type of guy who is just out to have sex, I would really like to meet an average TS who isn't hustling away her body.

I live in Toronto with no clue of where to start looking.

I hate this :twisted:


What girl would what a homophobic nutcase like you,no girl in their right state of mind would even give a guy like you a chance so good luck finding that average ts.Your lucky if you can score a brain dead crackwhore.

PeteIsHere
01-23-2009, 05:13 AM
This guy from Jamaica is claiming he is your cousin. He even looks a little like you.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miBQIjfIiLw&feature=channel



I know it would be a cake walk to be in public with her, but I have a Jamaican family - Extrermely homophobic.

HP1000
01-23-2009, 05:17 AM
Sammy you're a gabhcuod !

Ryz
01-23-2009, 05:24 AM
This thread is pretty boring

samstl99
01-23-2009, 07:52 AM
Ya Know.. I think I love Jenn...

Gorgeous, Sexy & Smart ass that tells it like it is... and did I mention she is gorgeous???

yodajazz
01-23-2009, 10:04 AM
Why is it every TS I have ever seen in my life has a price tag ?

I'm not the type of guy who is just out to have sex, I would really like to meet an average TS who isn't hustling away her body.

I live in Toronto with no clue of where to start looking.

I hate this :twisted:

I think Jen knows what she is talking about, seems like she has checked you out enough to form an opinion.

My solution would be to find gay bars that have drag shows and just hang out and buy a couple of people drinks. Dont hookup with the first thing that smiles at you. If you are not secure enough to do that, then maybe you should forget about the whole ts thing. If you family really loves you, then they will be better off knowing and accepting the real you.

dan_drade
01-23-2009, 10:23 AM
Why is it every TS I have ever seen in my life has a price tag ?

I'm not the type of guy who is just out to have sex, I would really like to meet an average TS who isn't hustling away her body.

I live in Toronto with no clue of where to start looking.

I hate this :twisted:

Sammy,
you need to take a chill pill and realx. Not every girl has a price tag. There are a lot of girls out there that would love to have a boyfriend. You just have to find one. With that said, you have to find out where Transsexual girls hang out in Toronto. I dont really know much about the area, but Totonto is a fairly large city and as with most larger cities there are many GLBT clubs, bars and communities. You need to go out and explore. I think you will be pleasantly surpeised with what you find.

Most of the newbies here spend all of their time looking on the Internet for the girl of their dreams. I can tell you by experience that this is the last place to look if you want a girlfriend that does not come with a pricetag. In fact, if you have chatted with a lot of girls on the Internet, you can be sure that a good number of them are men. I dont mean CD's or TV's, I mean big fat ugly hairy men that have nothing better to do but get off on guys fawning over them like they are young hotties.

My advice to you is to get out there in the community and see what it has to offer. Just do it!!!

If you have hangups about going into the GLBT community because you think it makes you gay, then get over it. Your only other option is to do what you dexcribed in your other thread. And that is to get rid of all your TS porn and do your best to surpress your feelings and desires. But I can tell you that it does not work. You will be back, you will download more TS porn and you will not be able to resist that urge. Get over your stupid little feelings about being gay and go out and get what you want man.

Trust me on this one ;)

justatransgirl
01-23-2009, 11:21 AM
Why is it every TS I have ever seen in my life has a price tag ?

I'm not the type of guy who is just out to have sex, I would really like to meet an average TS who isn't hustling away her body.

I live in Toronto with no clue of where to start looking.

I hate this :twisted:

Well, to start off with, I've never "sold" my body. Though my companionship is available for rent by the hour.

Though if any guy wants to buy me a house on the beach, a vacation home in Maui, a MB, and my new interest - a plane. And pay to sustain it, I will consider selling myself to you - I also want at least a 5 karat diamond ring. :-) :-)

OH, sorry. You meant a t-girl who will love you just for being you. Well sweetie, believe it or not ALL girls (in one manner or another) want a man who will take care of them and provide the lifestyle to which they would like to become accustomed. :-)

And here's my experience with just "being friends" with a guy who's specifically interested in TS's. It starts as bar friends, or perhaps phone chats. Then pretty soon - like in either 5 minutes or on the second "date" he wants sex. Then he stops calling.

So my rule... if you ride my train you buy a ticket. I get somethign out of the deal other than a sore ass. :-)

OK - now that I beat you up... :-) Here's what you do if you want to meet a "normal" TS for a relationship. Go to your local GLBT center and get involved with TG rights issues. NOT because you are going to get laid, but because you truly have in interest in ending discrimination of minorities in this country. Go to regional conferences, etc.

You will meet "normal" TG people but they will have actual real jobs, like nurses, computer people, govt disability, etc. Many will be over 40, most will be marginally "passable." Some will be outright fruitcakes. But if you spend enough time you just might meet someone special.

But before you do that you need to ask yourself WHY do you want to meet a transsexual girlfriend? Because if what's under the hood has any bearing on why you like or love an individual then you will probably never find a lasting relationship with a t-girl who isn't charging you by the hour.

Cause we know when we are being used - and it's OK - IF you don't mind paying for your fun.

Best wishes in your quest.

Hugs,
TS Jamie :-)

simianantics
01-23-2009, 11:30 AM
Everyone speaks from personal experience.
You are entitled to your own opinion.
Don't get put off by naysayers.

But there's always a silver lining in the cloud.
Keep looking.

slinky
01-23-2009, 11:38 AM
Why is it every TS I have ever seen in my life has a price tag ?


How many have you met and where are you meeting them?

sammy2
01-23-2009, 11:40 AM
I just want a ts friend, most don't even have time for building friendships.

sammy2
01-23-2009, 11:42 AM
Why is it every TS I have ever seen in my life has a price tag ?


How many have you met and where are you meeting them?

Ts forums

simianantics
01-23-2009, 11:53 AM
Everyone speaks from personal experience.
You are entitled to your own opinion.
Don't get put off by naysayers.

But there's always a silver lining in the cloud.
Keep looking.

neverforget
01-23-2009, 04:46 PM
they are out there. it takes patience and love. just remember that once a ts takes the step to leave the business for you its a major step. you have to be ready for everything that comes with it. ive been there , it does work. it just takes a lot of understanding. . it can happen. the past is the past. never bring it up. start fresh, love her like there is no tomorrow and make her see that no matter what we are true love and respect is for everyone. its one of the best decisions i ever made. i am a very lucky man.

alyssats
01-23-2009, 05:01 PM
from my experience most guys who wants to make contacts and date me in the end ill just find out that he just wants a free sex with me and after having sex with me will just leave you alone and look for another TS victim. so much bullshits and broken promises.

at least now im stronger and smarter and get paid and promise to myself will not be able to be used again

show me the money first and sign the contract jeje just kidding

i just hate bullshitters and broken promises

samstl99
01-23-2009, 05:06 PM
Alyssa.. unfortunately that is the case with most Girls. I am fortunate that I have become VERY good friends with a couple of girls that are not in the business and live life as a female in every day occupations. Dating for them is difficult because they want a Str8 Guy that is understanding, but most of the guys that are interested in a TGirl are looking to.."cross it off their list of things to do".

My Friend Ashe is Gorgeous and if she didnt live 5 hours away.. I would pursue a relationship with her... she is a beautiful girl inside and out.

But that is my luck.

alyssats
01-23-2009, 05:14 PM
I understand what you mean samstl99 and yes I think they are still very very few guys there that are for real in terms of looking for friends or ltr. good luck to you and enjoy life ;)

Odelay
01-23-2009, 05:50 PM
Dude...relax and don't be so uptight. Maybe you will find the right girl if you are at the right place. I don't think all TS women try to sell their bodies all the time. Even if some do sell their bodies that their business.
Ask yourself this,how open would you be with a TS woman with your friends and family? How conformable will you be in public with her?

Addressing the general question as to how to have a non-paying relationship with a TS, I think Hendrix nails it.

First step... come out to your friends and family. If you want a TS to take a risk by abandoning her work, or by blowing her stealth cover, then it's best if you take the first risk. If she knows you're out to your friends and family, she'll know you're serious.

I am not out to my friends and family... therefore I don't ask Sammy-type questions on this board. 8)

dan_drade
01-23-2009, 06:02 PM
from my experience most guys who wants to make contacts and date me in the end ill just find out that he just wants a free sex with me and after having sex with me will just leave you alone and look for another TS victim. so much bullshits and broken promises.

at least now im stronger and smarter and get paid and promise to myself will not be able to be used again

show me the money first and sign the contract jeje just kidding

i just hate bullshitters and broken promises

I cant belive it, but I have been with my gf for over four years now. There is hope for Samy, he just has to look. I was also with my last gf for a year.

menacingmethods86
01-23-2009, 06:44 PM
There's no such thing as a normal TS. TS's are just sexual fetishes and they seem to enjoy being viewed that way.

Jericho
01-23-2009, 06:47 PM
There's no such thing as a normal TS. TS's are just sexual fetishes and they seem to enjoy being viewed that way.

That is a fucked up viewpoint, dawg!
It says more about you than them. :shrug

dan_drade
01-23-2009, 06:59 PM
There's no such thing as a normal TS. TS's are just sexual fetishes and they seem to enjoy being viewed that way.

So what you are really saying is that the only thing a TS is good for is to get on your knees and take her cock down your throat and then pull your pants down and take her cock deep in your ass?

sammy2
01-23-2009, 08:35 PM
There's no such thing as a normal TS. TS's are just sexual fetishes and they seem to enjoy being viewed that way.


Good point, they are shallow and superficial. You notice not one TS entered here and said they wish to be in a relationship. crazy.

Jericho
01-23-2009, 09:03 PM
There's no such thing as a normal TS. TS's are just sexual fetishes and they seem to enjoy being viewed that way.


Good point, they are shallow and superficial. You notice not one TS entered here and said they wish to be in a relationship. crazy.


Damn, dude yer right. I mean, how could they resist such a prince?

lahabra1976
01-23-2009, 09:12 PM
There's no such thing as a normal TS. TS's are just sexual fetishes and they seem to enjoy being viewed that way.


Good point, they are shallow and superficial. You notice not one TS entered here and said they wish to be in a relationship. crazy.

What is normal?

Isa_Decadent
01-23-2009, 09:19 PM
Sammy, you´re a troll, lets face it, you have NO intrest in having any kind of realationship with a trans woman from what youve posted before.

And ive been with my boyfriend for almost 3 ˝ years now!

sammy2
01-23-2009, 10:25 PM
There's no such thing as a normal TS. TS's are just sexual fetishes and they seem to enjoy being viewed that way.


Good point, they are shallow and superficial. You notice not one TS entered here and said they wish to be in a relationship. crazy.


Damn, dude yer right. I mean, how could they resist such a prince?

I wasn't going to try talking to any of them, I already know the TS here have the worst attitude. None can really elaborate on past or current relationship they been in.

blckhaze
01-24-2009, 02:11 AM
There's no such thing as a normal TS. TS's are just sexual fetishes and they seem to enjoy being viewed that way.


Good point, they are shallow and superficial. You notice not one TS entered here and said they wish to be in a relationship. crazy.


Damn, dude yer right. I mean, how could they resist such a prince?

I wasn't going to try talking to any of them, I already know the TS here have the worst attitude. None can really elaborate on past or current relationship they been in.

Why should they tell someone who:
1) Has no intent on getting know them
2) thinks hes gay for liking them
3) Thinks hes going to hell for liking them
4) Thinks there not normal for fulfilling your fantasy
ANYTHING about their relationships.

Maybe you need to log off, go outside and actually meet a TS without intentions of fucking her silly and get to know her on a level that you do "normal" females. Thinking they all just lay on their backs all day masturbating or getting fucked by the latest character to pay them and dont have lives outside that even if they do escort is so ludicrous.

Silcc69
01-24-2009, 02:55 AM
My family would never ever except this. Some would'nt be that keen on me dating a white GG lol. If I ever did get in a serious relationship with a TG i'd probably end up leaving my fam.

slinky
01-24-2009, 06:23 AM
Why is it every TS I have ever seen in my life has a price tag ?


How many have you met and where are you meeting them?

Ts forums

there is your answer

yodajazz
01-24-2009, 09:11 PM
Why is it every TS I have ever seen in my life has a price tag ?


How many have you met and where are you meeting them?

Ts forums

there is your answer

I did notice that he did not respond to the suggestions of how to meet people in his own city. If you can't be bothered to go downtown/across town in your own city, how do you really expect to have a real friendship with someone much further away?

Some people here, have given him some sincere answers, yet he agrees to the negative comments about t girls.

peggygee
01-24-2009, 10:25 PM
There's no such thing as a normal TS. TS's are just sexual fetishes and they seem to enjoy being viewed that way.


Good point, they are shallow and superficial. You notice not one TS entered here and said they wish to be in a relationship. crazy.


Damn, dude yer right. I mean, how could they resist such a prince?

I wasn't going to try talking to any of them, I already know the TS here have the worst attitude. None can really elaborate on past or current relationship they been in.

Why should they tell someone who:
1) Has no intent on getting know them
2) thinks hes gay for liking them
3) Thinks hes going to hell for liking them
4) Thinks there not normal for fulfilling your fantasy
ANYTHING about their relationships.

Maybe you need to log off, go outside and actually meet a TS without intentions of fucking her silly and get to know her on a level that you do "normal" females. Thinking they all just lay on their backs all day masturbating or getting fucked by the latest character to pay them and dont have lives outside that even if they do escort is so ludicrous.

I'm a a normal Black woman.

I'm a highly educated, professional woman. I go to work everyday.
I am a extremely driven woman of integrity, and have many goals
and ambitions.

I do not work in the sex industry. Nor do I seek or need a man to take
care of me financially.

The OP has made derogatory comments about post operative
transwomen, which I am, and I take great umbrage and offense
to said comments.

He has also made the derisive comments outlined above.

I find his viewponts to be misogynistic, transphobic and homophobic.

They are also poorly written and articulated.

That he is a person of color, and a member of this forum is also
disheartening to me.

It is my policy not to engage in pointless and fruitless dialouges with
trolls or flamers thus this will be my last discourse with either this poster
or on this thread.

However, I have tendered this response as neither I nor IPOWA can
remain mute to such vile and reprehensible rhetoric and sentiments.

dan_drade
01-24-2009, 11:59 PM
Why is it every TS I have ever seen in my life has a price tag ?


How many have you met and where are you meeting them?

Ts forums

there is your answer

I did notice that he did not respond to the suggestions of how to meet people in his own city. If you can't be bothered to go downtown/across town in your own city, how do you really expect to have a real friendship with someone much further away?

Some people here, have given him some sincere answers, yet he agrees to the negative comments about t girls.

Of course her did not. It seems obvious to me that he is a fool. His contact with TS's is in forums and probably in chat rooms too.He has no idea that half the girls he chats with are really just old fat men getting off behind their computers.

He probably also calls escorts on CL and Eros. I'll bet his first line to them is "I don't pay for sex, but if you want me to suck your cock I'll be right over" LOL.

bezane
01-25-2009, 01:19 AM
Well Sammy, I guess you're the subject of the day. While some of the posters here come off as cruel and insensitive, in regards to you, they do have a point.

Start soul searching. Have you REALLY decided that you are going to end up with a TS? Or do you need to convince yourself of it still? If it is a fetish of yours, then go with it. Start a relationship with a favorite escort. See her twice a month and pay her what she asks. Make those sessions real and not creepy. Over time you will get to know each other on levels besides sex. And as far as the sex goes maybe you will become better informed to know if this is the only sex you want. Or is this sex with transsexuals just a midpoint stop on the way to Gayville. I'm serious here. Nothing wrong with either. And I'm not implying that you will end up with this escort but it will leave you more savvy and better equipped as an eventual suitor to someone else.

And before my so called future wife spots this post and starts accusing me of going to escorts, I haven't and my situation is a bit different.

The other part of the soul searching Sammy if you have made that decision in the affirmative to be with a TS, is to be okay with it. It doesn't mean getting in people's faces and telling them. If it comes up be concise and clear about your attraction and be done with it. If people disown you over it, then you have to accept that, family included and it is their close mindedness that they are living with.

Every genetic girl I've ever dated either for a single date or a five year span or so, I've always been playful with, eyeballing them, cupping her pussy under the table, looking down her shirt etc., so as far as some here saying you can't want to keep grabbing a TS's cock is probably something I disagree with. But I do agree with them that if your only interest in them is their cock then maybe you need to have a long discussion with yourself about the possibility that you may like men. And being a fag is only negative to some people. The Gay community has become a vibrant one. Politically active. Economically solid. Competent and beyond in the workforce. There will always be those that see your attraction to same sex as an issue of degradation. Me and many others don't agree.

I think you hear that attitude about fags here on the board because many girls here have had to deal with more abuse than you and I can ever imagine. And when it comes from men here I think there is a certain level of denial in their own hearts so they do play up their machismo a bit to the ones in charge here.

And that point will bring me to the biggest issue of all. If you think it is difficult for YOU to find a relationship with a TS, put yourself in their shoes. They have it far more difficult. They are given more bullshit lines from men than we'll ever know. I think it is a fair estimate that over 95% of all men that are attracted to TS would not enter into an open relationship with a TS. Of course there's the contingent that say they would. But they don't. The girls would rather take $300 from you and have a nice roll in the hay than date you, get gifts etc. and get their hopes up only to find that you are sick son of a bitch that went on an elaborate bullshit trip just to get laid.

You see Sammy, it's the mindset of us men that have created the scenario you speak of in regards to selling their bodies. There is an overwhelming culture of being ostracized whether they experienced it first hand are were educated into it. Have a heart man. Think about the decisions you've had to make in your life. Then think about having to live with the fact that you feel feminine in every way and you're a guy and have to make a decision to pursue your happiness by being the opposite sex that you were born. This is something you and I don't ever have to deal with. A bit more difficult than deciding what to major in at college or what house or car to buy. And yes, way more difficult than someone like me, that decided to spend my life with a TS.

I did my soul searching Sammy. I consider myself bisexual and never went out with a man. I am instantly turned on by TS and genetic women. I love to watch them walk by. Love their form and when it is about a TS I'm wowed by something I look at as being highly evolved. I'm proud of them all. Both their sexuality, their bravery, their unique perspective and their plight.

So I hope Sammy that you are not the troll and idiot that some here have tagged you as. Only because I just wrote this long winded post that no one else will read but you and probably that Blond-headed little tart from Ohio if she notices that I posted something (it's okay though, most days she hates me anyway and depending on the day I hate her too).

Good luck to you. If you continue with your pursuit of a TS wife or girlfriend, take the advice of others here and be cool. Actions speak louder than words and just because a girl is a TS doesn't mean she says "Eureka!!!!!!, I found a serious man!!!!!" Deal with their cynicism. It is not misplaced or misguided. It is instilled by decades of jerked off guys making them constantly feel beaten down. They will decide when you are cool with being around them. And for your info, someone like me that has dated "non-working" TS girls as well as formerly "working" TS, goes out to dinner with groups of them or mixed groups for dinner. Give an occasional call to see how they are doing. Goes shopping with them. You will not build credibility by being a closet freak.

And just one more point. If you date a man, publicly, people will say "you're gay" and get over it quickly because they've seen it many times. If you date a TS, and people know that she is, they will look at you as a freak. People are stupid remember. They are gladly uninformed. Are you ready for that? And before you say that you want to insult the girls further by saying you will date a "passable" TS, just be sure. Ask my friend on this board what I don't like about her. She will not hesitate and say because she is a poor excuse for a TS. Everyone, and I mean EVERYONE assumes her to be a girl. And I'm honest enough to admit I actually get super turned on by a tinge of tranny in a beautiful girl. So if you do too, then get ready for even further public scrutiny. But as far as me, I met her, befriended her, stayed in touch and actually like her. So what can I do? She is what she is.

TsVanessa69
01-25-2009, 03:42 AM
I escort but I'm still a normal person and have likes and needs too. Just because one escorts doesn't mean every guy she meets in life is going to be a trick. We have boyfriends and fuck buddies just like anybody else. If the girl you are trying to wife up or hook up with is no where remotley attracted to you, she will tell you up front she is a working girl. I do that to send them off gently. I don't have a problem having a boyfriend and escorting.

Tika
01-25-2009, 04:01 AM
I'm a TS, have not and never will be an escort, and I'm single. However, I'm also a lesbian. Sucks to be you, Sammy.