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dbev
12-28-2008, 06:09 PM
In 1959, in his seminal paper "Homage to Santa Rosalia," G. E. Hutchinson asked, Why are there so many kinds of organisms? This paper focused attention on problems of species diversity and community organization.

Here he observes two species of waterbugs living in the same pond in a cave at the Shrine of Saint Rosalia on Monte Pellegrino, Sicily, and asks, "Why are there so many kinds of animals?"

The scientific significance of the paper is undeniable. Hutchinson extends the conception of niche that he first presented at a Cold Spring Harbor symposium in the subtly named paper titled, "Concluding Remarks". Hutchinson's conception of niche came to be known as Hutchinsonian (or realized) niche as opposed to the Eltonian (or fundamental) niche. Arguably Santa Rosalia is the origins of the study of biodiversity. In fact, Santa Rosalia has become shorthand for the basic question of species numbers. Although many of the concepts Hutchinson wrote about did not begin with him, he might be credited with bringing order to the discipline by shifting focus to the central role of energy in food chains, available habitat, community stability and environmental grain, and how all this relates to the maintenance of biodiversity.

Hutchinson, G. E. (1959). Homage to santa rosalia or why are there so many kinds of animals? The American Naturalist 93 (870), 145-159.

http://www.mtholyoke.edu/courses/srachoot/ecoevo/HomagetoSantaRosalia.pdf

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My question, now and very respectfully, is: why are there so many transgender people?

Please reply nicely.

DL_NL
12-28-2008, 06:35 PM
Apparently nature gets it wrong quite often.

dbev
12-29-2008, 10:29 PM
Any replies?

slinky
12-29-2008, 11:04 PM
Define "so many"? What actual facts are you basing your question on?

SarahG
12-29-2008, 11:24 PM
In 1959, in his seminal paper "Homage to Santa Rosalia," G. E. Hutchinson asked, Why are there so many kinds of organisms? This paper focused attention on problems of species diversity and community organization.

Here he observes two species of waterbugs living in the same pond in a cave at the Shrine of Saint Rosalia on Monte Pellegrino, Sicily, and asks, "Why are there so many kinds of animals?"

The scientific significance of the paper is undeniable. Hutchinson extends the conception of niche that he first presented at a Cold Spring Harbor symposium in the subtly named paper titled, "Concluding Remarks". Hutchinson's conception of niche came to be known as Hutchinsonian (or realized) niche as opposed to the Eltonian (or fundamental) niche. Arguably Santa Rosalia is the origins of the study of biodiversity. In fact, Santa Rosalia has become shorthand for the basic question of species numbers. Although many of the concepts Hutchinson wrote about did not begin with him, he might be credited with bringing order to the discipline by shifting focus to the central role of energy in food chains, available habitat, community stability and environmental grain, and how all this relates to the maintenance of biodiversity.

Hutchinson, G. E. (1959). Homage to santa rosalia or why are there so many kinds of animals? The American Naturalist 93 (870), 145-159.

http://www.mtholyoke.edu/courses/srachoot/ecoevo/HomagetoSantaRosalia.pdf

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My question, now and very respectfully, is: why are there so many transgender people?

Please reply nicely.

Well, you did say transgender and not transsexual in your question.

Anytime you group TV's and TS's together, you're going to have a population figure that is skewed larger. There are far more TV's than TS's out there IMHO.

As to why, well thats harder to answer. TV is generally considered a fetish. Why do people have any given fetish? You'd have to figure that out first before you could address why there are so many TV's.

dbev
12-29-2008, 11:57 PM
http://www.med.monash.edu.au/gendermed/sexandgender.html

What is the difference between sex and gender?

Sex = male and female

Gender = masculine and feminine

So in essence:

Sex refers to biological differences; chromosomes, hormonal profiles, internal and external sex organs.

Gender describes the characteristics that a society or culture delineates as masculine or feminine.

So while your sex as male or female is a biological fact that is the same in any culture, what that sex means in terms of your gender role as a 'man' or a 'woman' in society can be quite different cross culturally. These 'gender roles' have an impact on the health of the individual.

In sociological terms 'gender role' refers to the characteristics and behaviours that different cultures attribute to the sexes. What it means to be a 'real man' in any culture requires male sex plus what our various cultures define as masculine characteristics and behaviours, likewise a 'real woman' needs female sex and feminine characteristics. To summarise:

'man' = male sex+ masculine social role

(a 'real man', 'masculine' or 'manly')

'woman' = female sex + feminine social role

(a 'real woman', 'feminine' or 'womanly')

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Having saying that, a person taking hormones because s/he was born in the wrong body and want to readjust his/her appearance to his/her feelings is both a transsexual and a transgender or not?

A boy dressing like a girl, such as a scene/emo boy, is a transgender?

Then, getting back to the original question: given the number of people born in masculine bodies but feeling like a woman that I see in this forum, in real life the amount of this "erroneus assignations" should be very large.

tsntx
12-29-2008, 11:59 PM
why are there so many idiots out there?

tsntx
12-30-2008, 12:22 AM
why are there so many idiots out there?

You saying that this thread and the original question are ridiculous? :wink:

or maybe just in general

but if the shoe fits..... ;)

hippifried
12-30-2008, 12:24 AM
why are there so many idiots out there?
Because they can't think unless somebody from the alphabet soup of academe writes a paper. I can't pinpoint the date, but I'm pretty sure I asked the same question before 1959, & I've never heard of Santa Rosaria. I think it popped up about the same time as such earth-shattering questions as "Why is the sky blue?" & "...but why because?". But it's good to know that somebody finally discovered biodiversity.

slinky
12-30-2008, 01:22 AM
Why do people have any given fetish? .

The single biggest reason for fetish development comes from associating a non-sexual act with sexuality at some time in pre-puberty/puberty.

flabbybody
12-30-2008, 01:24 AM
Apparently nature gets it wrong quite often.

some would say a tgirl is nature getting it right

DL_NL
12-30-2008, 01:32 AM
I'd say it's someone correcting nature's mistake. What the result is like depends on lots of factors.

Nowhere
12-30-2008, 02:14 AM
I really don't even think the premise of this argument is correct.

Less than 0.1% of people are TG.

Just because you're in a centralized group of people related to it doesn't mean there are remotely "many" trans people out there.

It just happens to be that there are over six BILLION people in the world with now the means to network the rare who are somewhat unique like that.