TOM CRUISE NEW FLICK

[rico87]

Valkyrie ! Anybody see it ? thinking about checking it out tonite open today but his last few movies have sucked big time. Actually when was the last good Tom Cruise movie ? mid 90's ?

[Coroner]

He has no good movies. Oh yeah, just one, "The Firm" with Gene Hackman. Thanks to Gene Hackman.

[flabbybody]

I gotta problem with historical flicks when I know exactly how it turns out. we know the story... a bunch of high ranking German officers knew they were going to lose the war by the start of 1944 so they conspired to assisinate Hitler. he survived, got really pissed, and got back at everyone involved.

of course these same military guys thought Hitler was a genius when he was kicking the shit outta France, Holland and Poland in 1940

[GroobySteven]

He was awesome in Tropical Thunder!

[alpha2117]

Ugh. Valkyrie sucks all sorts of ass.

Putting aside Cruises religion (Scientology is a a scam and a cult) he can actually act but Valkyrie is a film that is just so plain wrongheaded. It really is a weak film.

[goldensamba]

Nothing like a movie about Germany with no German spoken in it.

[rico87]

Ugh. Valkyrie sucks all sorts of ass.

Putting aside Cruises religion (Scientology is a a scam and a cult) he can actually act but Valkyrie is a film that is just so plain wrongheaded. It really is a weak film.

:lol: Thanks for the advice and laugh. Will avoid this one. Isn't Travolta and half of Hollywood into that crazy shit. More I think about it Tom Cruise has gone way down since Rainman. But people are stupid and will go see it and support Cruise .

Its amazing the only good movies today are Foreign films like India's Slumdog Millionaire. I guess thats what happens these guys like Cruise get what like 15-20 million a movie if not more and they rob us of our money.

The best is when Julia Roberts said she won't do a movie for less than 25 million ...wtf ? when did she become better than Sophia Loren ?

[nosurrender69]

I hate when people base movie picks on actors alone ----look at the Writer/Director -- dont base movie choices solely on actors--

Valkyrie is a Bryan Singer flick and was co written by the same guy that did Usual Suspects with him....Tom Cruise btw is a dead ringer for the real Claus von Stauffenberg so it makes sense that the cast him.. If your into WW2 history give this movie a chance Tom Cruise or not...

[nosurrender69]

Ugh. Valkyrie sucks all sorts of ass. have you even seen this movie yet?....
or is this just some assumption?

Not that you should listen to critics buts....read some reviews before you nay say just cause you think Tom cruise is a looney...which Im not denying...


http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/film-reviews/film-review-valkyrie-1003921619.story

[GroobySteven]

Ugh. Valkyrie sucks all sorts of ass.

Putting aside Cruises religion (Scientology is a a scam and a cult) he can actually act but Valkyrie is a film that is just so plain wrongheaded. It really is a weak film.

:lol: Thanks for the advice and laugh. Will avoid this one. Isn't Travolta and half of Hollywood into that crazy shit. More I think about it Tom Cruise has gone way down since Rainman. But people are stupid and will go see it and support Cruise .

Its amazing the only good movies today are Foreign films like India's Slumdog Millionaire. I guess thats what happens these guys like Cruise get what like 15-20 million a movie if not more and they rob us of our money.

The best is when Julia Roberts said she won't do a movie for less than 25 million ...wtf ? when did she become better than Sophia Loren ?

What a silly statement "they rob us of our money" ?
Going to see a movie is a choice, not a necessity.
I can't find the quote where Julia Roberts stated that she wouldn't do a movie for less than $25 million (the amount she was paid for "Mona Lisa Smile" but she is the world's most successful female actress in terms of box office. I'd guess that is when she became better than Sophia Lorean who was always more of an icon than an actress (and I fail to see the connection with Julia Roberts?).

"Slumdog Millionaire" is a British/US film starring a British male lead. If it was Indian it would have a musical number in it. I agree though, that there are more interesting Foreign movies than what Hollywood has given us this year.

A recent report I read (I think in "Men's Health" or maybe online) by an economist stated that the name of the star in a movie, had very little to do with the ROI for a movie and often the cost of the star/s payment offset any profits.

Good rated movies this year IMO:
The Dark Knight
Man on Wire
Ironman
In Bruges


Overall it's been the worst year for movies that I can remember - so if anyone has any other suggestions of movies I may have missed?

[rico87]

Didn't know that about Slumdog Millionaire.

But of course going to see a movies is a choice but did you ever come out of a movie feeling you wasted 3 hours and 40 dollars if you were on a date. I tried to do as much research as possible before investing those 3 hours for seeing 5 shit movies in a row and 200 bucks later yes I consider it robbery. Also my stupidity when these actors are getting paid big bucks and their performances sux.

Btw Sean Penn in Milk was flawless performance and that was worth every penny.

Just Like when I paid 500 pounds for a Chelsea match at the bridge against West Ham and the game was boring. It was my choice but never again will I pay that much money when the players like John Terry are being paid how many pounds a year and plays a half ass game. And Scolari leaves Drogba on the bench the whole 1st half, my favorite player.

[AmyDaly]

I really liked Vanilla Sky and Eyes wide shut. This movie looked appealing, but I don't like watching movies that you already know the ending to. I have also heard some pretty bad reviews as well.

[rico87]

I really liked Vanilla Sky and Eyes wide shut. This movie looked appealing, but I don't like watching movies that you already know the ending to. I have also heard some pretty bad reviews as well.

So Amy would Tom Cruise get the honor of a bubble bath with you if he wanted ? :wink:

[alpha2117]

Ugh. Valkyrie sucks all sorts of ass. have you even seen this movie yet?....
or is this just some assumption?

Not that you should listen to critics buts....read some reviews before you nay say just cause you think Tom cruise is a looney...which Im not denying...


http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/hr/film-reviews/film-review-valkyrie-1003921619.story

Yeah I saw a cut for award review purposes. It plays fast and loose with history. It also really doesn't flow well.

As I said I put aside Cruises looney religous views. I loved him in War of the Worlds for instance. A lot of people didn't realise that Tom and his two kids represented the three classic reactions to danger - flight, fight or the inability to do anything. It was beautifuly constructed and he played it really well. Valkyrie on the other hand feels like a vanity piece.

The best film at the moment is probably Aronofsky's The Wrestler with Mickey Rourke, thats a work of art.

I could see how people like Benjamin Button but it just didn't work for me, it felt too cold and sterile and I really didn't feel the empathy I was supposed too.

Slumdog Millionaire is simple but quite beautifully done.

This year really doesn't have the punch of some other years with award season films. Very few of them actually work. Valkyrie is a classic example. On paper it's a decent basis for a film but Cruise really doesn't work in the role and the whole thing never really comes together like it should.

One thing with Cruise is for most of his career he has played variations on the same character.

Name the Cruise film -

He is arrogant and cocky, he does something dumb, things go wrong, someone helps him see the light, he learns a important life lesson.

Risky Business, All the Right Moves, Top Gun, Rain Man, The Firm on and on all through his career it's largely variations on a theme. It worked well playing teenagers and 20 somethings, less so as a 30 somethiong and it works even less now as a 40 something. By the time you are 40 you shouldn't need to be taught important life lessons. That's why on the whole his career isn't what it was because the standard Tom Cruise character archetype is personality wise a young man. He's too old to play that guy anymore.

Cruise has acting talent but frankly I dont know if he has the right look, voice or attitude to really work that well in his 40's and 50's. I'm sure he will still do some good films but I think he'll be more inconsistent now because his fallback role doesn't suit him anymore.

Valkyrie's main character is played like the standard Cruise character and as I said that doesn't work for a 40 something.

[hwbs]

i saw that curious case of benjamin buttons instead ,cause we were bored @ home....it was real good but like 3 hours long !!!

[alpha2117]

i saw that curious case of benjamin buttons instead ,cause we were bored @ home....it was real good but like 3 hours long !!!

Did you connect with the characters? I'm interested because I wanted to like it so much but it felt like a museum peice to me beautiful but a little cold and sterile. It might just be me though.

[AmyDaly]

I really liked Vanilla Sky and Eyes wide shut. This movie looked appealing, but I don't like watching movies that you already know the ending to. I have also heard some pretty bad reviews as well.

So Amy would Tom Cruise get the honor of a bubble bath with you if he wanted ? :wink:

Oh yea

As long as there was no Xenu involved :lol:

[ILuvGurls]

i seem to remember another movie about this, goggled and found nothing......

[nosurrender69]

The best film at the moment is probably Aronofsky's The Wrestler with Mickey Rourke, thats a work of art.

I love his shit I really need to check that out. and i think the fountain is very, very underrated. It was brilliant. I really think is transcended standard storytelling motif's and it's one of my favorites films he's done.

Sorry wasn't trying to dog on you but it really gets my goat when people assume actors make the movie.....and they only go because they like or dislike the actors.

I do think Cruise can be very "stale" but I think has done some decent stuff last 10 years like Collateral and I think his performance was alright in the Last Samurai but Ken Watanabe really carried that film.

[EyeCumInPiece]

Ill go see it, although im not expecting much. I think Tom Cruise gets a bad rap. Hes not my fav. actor but he certainly isnt the worst. Vanilla sky, eyes wide shut, Interview with a vampire, Collateral, ect were all outstanding.

[Coroner]

You guys should definitely check out foreign movies. There´s much more to see than just Hollywood. Check out Russian, French, British, Italian, German, Polish, Japanese, Israeli, Indian etc. movies. It will be another experience for you. No Hollywood director can top guys like Ingmar Bergman, Andrei Tarkovsky, Akira Kurosawa, Federico Fellini, Luchino Visconti, Max Ophüls, Bernardo Bertolucci, Jean-Luc Godard or Francois Truffaut.

[EyeCumInPiece]

You guys should definitely check out foreign movies. There´s much more to see than just Hollywood. Check out Russian, French, British, Italian, German, Polish, Japanese, Israeli, Indian etc. movies. It will be another experience for you. No Hollywood director can top guys like Ingmar Bergman, Andrei Tarkovsky, Akira Kurosawa, Federico Fellini, Luchino Visconti, Max Ophüls, Bernardo Bertolucci, Jean-Luc Godard or Francois Truffaut.

Love your list, Especially Kurosawa, Bertolucci, and Luc Godard, but where is Herzog??? And are you aware that not all American movies are made in Hollywood? You cant compare Hollywood Directors to the likes you just named. But there are many great American Directors who do not come out with Hollywood Blockbusters.

[GroobySteven]

Sergio Leone
Spike Lee
Wim Wenders
Werner Herzog
Ridley Scott
Shane Meadows
Terrence Malick
Richard Attenborough
Sydney Pollack
David Lean
and based on his movie, "Gone Baby Gone" ... Ben Affleck - one of the best US movies of the year.

[Coroner]

You guys should definitely check out foreign movies. There´s much more to see than just Hollywood. Check out Russian, French, British, Italian, German, Polish, Japanese, Israeli, Indian etc. movies. It will be another experience for you. No Hollywood director can top guys like Ingmar Bergman, Andrei Tarkovsky, Akira Kurosawa, Federico Fellini, Luchino Visconti, Max Ophüls, Bernardo Bertolucci, Jean-Luc Godard or Francois Truffaut.

Love your list, Especially Kurosawa, Bertolucci, and Luc Godard, but where is Herzog??? And are you aware that not all American movies are made in Hollywood? You cant compare Hollywood Directors to the likes you just named. But there are many great American Directors who do not come out with Hollywood Blockbusters.

Sorry for missing Werner Herzog. Btw, I saw "Aguirre" last week. Of course, I know that not all American movies were made in Hollywood and there are many independent film makers like Jim Jarmusch or Wayne Wang (Smoke, Blue in the Face) used to be. But I doubt that most Americans even heard of Jim Jarmusch for example. I didn´t mean to underestimate American directors because there´re a few I really like: Stanley Kubrick, Dalton Trumbo, Michael Cimino, Sidney Lumet, David Lynch (sometimes overrated though) etc.

[Coroner]

That's the problem with generalizations....."No Hollywood director can top guys like...."

When it comes to directing films, there are great directors of all nationalities, including Americans.

Just to name a few....

Martin Scorcese
Robert Altman
John Frankenheimer
Orson Wellls
John Ford
Stanley Kubrick
Clint Eastwood
Oliver Stone
David Mamet

ps: And yes, all those you mentioned are great directors, I will add Sir. A. Hitchcock.

I agree on the bolded sentence. What I´m trying to say is that many great directors remained unknown and underrated because people declare Quentin Tarantino a genius or think that Francis Ford Coppola and George Lucas are the best movie directors ever. I do respect them but sorry, they´re not even in the Top 20. I remember watching a documentary with Martin Scorsese, Coppola and Lucas sitting around a table and discussing cinematography. The person who filmed this docu said something like "we have the best movie directors od the present sitting together" and I was like WTF. George Lucas made two good movies: "American Graffiti" and "THX 1138" and spent the rest of his life and work on Star Wars. What makes a director a good one or even the best or one of the best in the public today? Not his work but how much money his blockbusters brought in. Where´s the art in this? I´m tired of predictable movies and can´t remember when beeing to the cinema the last time.

However, you have some great names in your list: Robert Altman, Kubrick, Orson Welles (the great master!) and Martin Scorsese.

[Coroner]

Sergio Leone
Spike Lee
Wim Wenders
Werner Herzog
Ridley Scott
Shane Meadows
Terrence Malick
Richard Attenborough
Sydney Pollack
David Lean
and based on his movie, "Gone Baby Gone" ... Ben Affleck - one of the best US movies of the year.

How could I forget Sergio Leone? Although he´s most famous for his "Spaghetti Westerns" (which are far better than American Westerns), my favourite Leone movie is "Once Upon A Time in America". It is one of the best American movies directed by a non-American film maker. He couldn´t even speak English. Wim Wenders is one of the most important German directors today (German cinematography is quite poor today). I also like Spike Lee a lot because he has his own contrast and way to tell stories. My favs by Spike Lee are "Mo´ Better Blues" and "Do The Right Thing". His only handicap is that screws up the endings sometimes. David Lean, Richard Attenborough, Terrence Malick..... great names.

[Coroner]

Another director from Hollywoood: Sidney Lumet

12 Angry Men (1957), Serpico (1973), Dog Day Afternoon (1975), Network (1976)

I recommend "The Pawnbroker" and check out the awesome soundtrack by Quincy Jones.

[Remy757Photog]

Ugh. Valkyrie sucks all sorts of ass.

Putting aside Cruises religion (Scientology is a a scam and a cult) he can actually act but Valkyrie is a film that is just so plain wrongheaded. It really is a weak film.

:lol: Thanks for the advice and laugh. Will avoid this one. Isn't Travolta and half of Hollywood into that crazy shit. More I think about it Tom Cruise has gone way down since Rainman. But people are stupid and will go see it and support Cruise .

Its amazing the only good movies today are Foreign films like India's Slumdog Millionaire. I guess thats what happens these guys like Cruise get what like 15-20 million a movie if not more and they rob us of our money.

The best is when Julia Roberts said she won't do a movie for less than 25 million ...wtf ? when did she become better than Sophia Loren ?

What a silly statement "they rob us of our money" ?
Going to see a movie is a choice, not a necessity.
I can't find the quote where Julia Roberts stated that she wouldn't do a movie for less than $25 million (the amount she was paid for "Mona Lisa Smile" but she is the world's most successful female actress in terms of box office. I'd guess that is when she became better than Sophia Lorean who was always more of an icon than an actress (and I fail to see the connection with Julia Roberts?).

"Slumdog Millionaire" is a British/US film starring a British male lead. If it was Indian it would have a musical number in it. I agree though, that there are more interesting Foreign movies than what Hollywood has given us this year.

A recent report I read (I think in "Men's Health" or maybe online) by an economist stated that the name of the star in a movie, had very little to do with the ROI for a movie and often the cost of the star/s payment offset any profits.

Good rated movies this year IMO:
The Dark Knight
Man on Wire
Ironman
In Bruges


Overall it's been the worst year for movies that I can remember - so if anyone has any other suggestions of movies I may have missed?

Some movies I watched this year to pass the time, nothing blockbuster though:

Let The Right One In - Swedish Film

Zack & Miri Make A Porno - Funny as hell

Dead Set - UK Zombie Mini-series

The Zombie Diaries - UK release was in 06 but US release is 08 :) while it's yet another Zombie movie the underlying story was Very good and gave the appropriate "uh ha" moment at the end

The Strangers - I liked the cam work in this

Midnight Meat Train - I am a Huge Clive Barker and Vinnie Jones fan

REC (not Quaratine) - You have to read Subtitles but production is much better than what Hollywood did to this movie

[alpha2117]

That's the problem with generalizations....."No Hollywood director can top guys like...."

When it comes to directing films, there are great directors of all nationalities, including Americans.

Just to name a few....

Martin Scorcese
Robert Altman
John Frankenheimer
Orson Wellls
John Ford
Stanley Kubrick
Clint Eastwood
Oliver Stone
David Mamet

ps: And yes, all those you mentioned are great directors, I will add Sir. A. Hitchcock.


You guys should definitely check out foreign movies. There´s much more to see than just Hollywood. Check out Russian, French, British, Italian, German, Polish, Japanese, Israeli, Indian etc. movies. It will be another experience for you. No Hollywood director can top guys like Ingmar Bergman, Andrei Tarkovsky, Akira Kurosawa, Federico Fellini, Luchino Visconti, Max Ophüls, Bernardo Bertolucci, Jean-Luc Godard or Francois Truffaut.

I'm sorry but you had Eastwood on that list ... after Million Dollar Baby his name can never be put on a list of great directors for mine, that was literally the worst film I have ever seen on every level. It was so bad it actually hurt other films for me. I cant watch a film with a Morgan Freeman voiceover without having flashbacks to the horror that is Million Dollar Baby!

[GroobySteven]

Just Like when I paid 500 pounds for a Chelsea match at the bridge against West Ham

Er, why the feck would you pay that money for a Chelsea vs West Ham (!?!?!?!) game? Madness!

[transmaven]

if any of you have a Netflix queue and an wide interest in film

I can post 100 masterpieces likely unknown to you

but you have to be able to enjoy old movies, foreign movies, trash films, etc.

Here's a few:

1. The Set-Up
2. Straight Time
3. Knife in the Water

[goldensamba]

Just Like when I paid 500 pounds for a Chelsea match at the bridge against West Ham

Er, why the feck would you pay that money for a Chelsea vs West Ham (!?!?!?!) game? Madness!


LOL, I agree. One crap team and one very annoying team. Nither of which play good football!

[Tepres]

I don't know if it'll be good, but I'll check it out. At least it's not another bad movie remake, of a Television show or cartoon.

[lahabra1976]

I don't know if it'll be good, but I'll check it out. At least it's not another bad movie remake, of a Television show or cartoon.

Saw it last night, it wasn't bad (not great either). But I tell you what, the theatre I went to hasn't had a full house in like forever, but last night it was so it seems everyone is interested in this one.

[Remy757Photog]

Haven't seen this 'A Great American Snuff" movie but I did download this documentary a couple weeks ago called "Snuff: A Documentary About Killing On Camera" which was informative and decent. I will look for this movie to see what's up though.

[rico87]

Just Like when I paid 500 pounds for a Chelsea match at the bridge against West Ham

Er, why the feck would you pay that money for a Chelsea vs West Ham (!?!?!?!) game? Madness!

When was the last time you went to an EPL Match ?
madness ? no doubt but thats the going price at the bridge, I could always go to South End and watch lower leagues for 20 pounds but the EPL ? Forget it and thats cheap try going to see Manure..(Man U )match.
People are losing jobs and and the pound is going down the toilet (now1.49 vs us dollar as opposed to 1.98 a year ago) but if you want to watch the best in the world thats the Market price today :(

[rico87]

Just Like when I paid 500 pounds for a Chelsea match at the bridge against West Ham

Er, why the feck would you pay that money for a Chelsea vs West Ham (!?!?!?!) game? Madness!


LOL, I agree. One crap team and one very annoying team. Nither of which play good football!

Um Blue is the color Chelsea is the name and we're gonna win the champions league this year. Chelsea finished second in Europe last year but they don't play good football :roll: watching Chelsea is a pure art my friend.

[rico87]

If you guys wanna see an great movie that has won all kinds of awards wait this month Gomorra true story about the Mafia in Caserta(Napoli), where right now there is a bounty for the head of Roberto Saviano, who may be hiding out in the states.

Cannes-winning film bidding for the foreign film Oscar in February

It will be released in LA,NY, and Miami this month. This movie will blow your fucking mind, no fiction here.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x6oijx_gomorra-english-trailer_shortfilms

[GroobySteven]

Just Like when I paid 500 pounds for a Chelsea match at the bridge against West Ham

Er, why the feck would you pay that money for a Chelsea vs West Ham (!?!?!?!) game? Madness!

When was the last time you went to an EPL Match ?
madness ? no doubt but thats the going price at the bridge, I could always go to South End and watch lower leagues for 20 pounds but the EPL ? Forget it and thats cheap try going to see Manure..(Man U )match.
People are losing jobs and and the pound is going down the toilet (now1.49 vs us dollar as opposed to 1.98 a year ago) but if you want to watch the best in the world thats the Market price today :(

It's not the regular price for a Chelsea regular game - 500 quid? Your joking right.
I saw Sunderland vs Arsenal last year for about 30 quid - and at St.James's a few months earlier for Newcastle vs Blackburn ... I was in a box but I saw ticket prices weren't that bad.

I've just found Chelsea vs Man Utd tickets (tasty!) for under 200 quid.

Here's West Ham vs Chelsea - less than 150 quid (still over priced)
http://www.official-chelsea-tickets.com/prodView.asp?idproduct=620

Sorry mate but if you paid 500quid - you've been had. I will take a bet on Chelsea not winning the Premiership this year though - but only if you were not born in London or anywhere near the ground :-)

[rico87]

Hammersmith/ West London we don't care about Premiership thats for the rich north London snobby Arsenal Blokes to worry about.

We want the Champions League trophy. Plus no bet weren't born there but lived for 8 years where I got my Masters from London Business College in Woolwich, best experience I miss the UK everyday. But Miami or Hawaii are the only spots I prefer in the states so at least I got one right.

[GroobySteven]

Hammersmith/ West London we don't care about Premiership thats for the rich north London snobby Arsenal Blokes to worry about.

We want the Champions League trophy. Plus no bet weren't born there but lived for 8 years where I got my Masters from London Business College in Woolwich, best experience I miss the UK everyday. But Miami or Hawaii are the only spots I prefer in the states so at least I got one right.

Ever get to Hawaii come and watch some games with me!

[rico87]

Hammersmith/ West London we don't care about Premiership thats for the rich north London snobby Arsenal Blokes to worry about.

We want the Champions League trophy. Plus no bet weren't born there but lived for 8 years where I got my Masters from London Business College in Woolwich, best experience I miss the UK everyday. But Miami or Hawaii are the only spots I prefer in the states so at least I got one right.

Ever get to Hawaii come and watch some games with me!

No doubt have a time share every April near Diamond Head across from the "W" where all the lovely ladies go on thursday nights. Bishop street used to be a good spot, don't know what happened. Anyway see you in the April. Last time out there I missed a few matches fawk 6 am sunday morning I'm usually Knocked out by 5AM but nothing a few Bloddy Mary's can't cure.

[GroobySteven]

Hammersmith/ West London we don't care about Premiership thats for the rich north London snobby Arsenal Blokes to worry about.

We want the Champions League trophy. Plus no bet weren't born there but lived for 8 years where I got my Masters from London Business College in Woolwich, best experience I miss the UK everyday. But Miami or Hawaii are the only spots I prefer in the states so at least I got one right.

Ever get to Hawaii come and watch some games with me!

No doubt have a time share every April near Diamond Head across from the "W" where all the lovely ladies go on thursday nights. Bishop street used to be a good spot, don't know what happened. Anyway see you in the April. Last time out there I missed a few matches fawk 6 am sunday morning I'm usually Knocked out by 5AM but nothing a few Bloddy Mary's can't cure.

You mean Merchant Street for the trannies? (crosses Bishop) - typical lazy Hawaiian culture - the girls cannot be arsed to go to work! I DVR everything so watch when I get up - much healthier than a 5am rise!

[rico87]

Yes merchant, yea met alot of hot asian trannies on that street for years, but today I see them advertise in Eros San Fran section, ha once they get to mainland they triple their prices funny shit.

[smithken]

uhhh tom cruises pics still bring in money. it doesnt matter what the reviews are. and dont go calling one religion a scam because they ALL are. dont think the one you belong too is the best.

[LilWyte]

i always liked tom cruise's movies idk why he gets so much hate yea he's crazy but so is 80% of this msg board

[MrsKellyPierce]

MMMM Tom Cruise!!!!! I want him and Bradd Pitt in a threesome...I can handle look alikes too if there are any haha

[ron30bi]

I totally look like Brad Pitt and Tom Cruise. 2 for the price of one! Just kidding.

[saifan]

Just got back from it. I liked it. Well paced and pretty suspenseful considering most people knows how it ends.

[longwave]

I gotta problem with historical flicks when I know exactly how it turns out. we know the story... a bunch of high ranking German officers knew they were going to lose the war by the start of 1944 so they conspired to assisinate Hitler. he survived, got really pissed, and got back at everyone involved.


i was thinking this too. i'll probably just wait for the dvd.

[luv4Tgirls]

Just saw it today, I liked it.

Go see 7 pounds

[alpha2117]

Frankly I hated the attempt to downplay how hardcore the assassins of Hitler were. These guys were hardcore Nazi's. In the film they try to portray them as noble but in reality they were just unhappy with Hitler's shoddy military decisions not his whole final solution nutjob Nazi party. I really think they tried to make them"good guys" where really it should be a film about bad guys and even worse guys.

[Remy757Photog]

While I'm not going to go to the theater to see this, I will download it and possibly get the dvd if I like it. I do not discredit a movie simply because I know how it will end, and I find the thought quite ludicrous. As an example I had already read the book "Into The Wild" as I like the author of which all his stories (I believe) are based on real events. I knew the boy was going to die alone in the Alaskan wilderness, but being able to watch the story unfold on film was still a great joy. The camera work was fantastic, the actors spot on, the score fitting, and it followed the book closely enough for my satisfaction.

Just my 2 cents

[jordyd19]

mission impossible 2.

MI3 had so much wirefighting and a fight sequence between non-super human people trading blows for 10 minutes.... It was ridicuous.

This movie coincided with his freak religion and ego, there will be people who remember hitler as the guy tom cruise almost killed in valkerie there 9th grade history class.

There needs to be celebrity boxing between him and Van Damme, there both washed up but tommy doesn't know it.

[jordyd19]

uhhh tom cruises pics still bring in money. it doesnt matter what the reviews are. and dont go calling one religion a scam because they ALL are. dont think the one you belong too is the best.

have you read the blind watchmaker? I was thinking about it since monday... seems up your alley.

[goldensamba]

Just Like when I paid 500 pounds for a Chelsea match at the bridge against West Ham

Er, why the feck would you pay that money for a Chelsea vs West Ham (!?!?!?!) game? Madness!


LOL, I agree. One crap team and one very annoying team. Nither of which play good football!

Um Blue is the color Chelsea is the name and we're gonna win the champions league this year. Chelsea finished second in Europe last year but they don't play good football :roll: watching Chelsea is a pure art my friend.

Chelsea play efficient football not good football. Totally different......Arsenal, United, even Villa actually try and play proper attacking football.

Credit Scolari for at least making them bearable unlike under Mourinho.