Kanye West just went off

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

Live on NBC last line they allowed him to say "George Bush doesn't care about Black people anyway................................"

[TomSelis]

Good for him, it's true!

[Spiderman]

Yeah kanye is right!

[tsbrenda]

I WOULD not say he does not care about black people but I would say he has a preference and priority that many are not happy with.

am I diplomatic or what?

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

I WOULD not say he does not care about black people but I would say he has a preference and priority that many are not happy with.

am I diplomatic or what?

very diplomatic
lol

[TomSelis]

This guy doesn't care about us. He wouldn't even meet with the NAACP for god's sake! That's unheard of. Yeah you could say he's classist if you want to, but that's just a cover for "Racist." Trust me on that.

I hope (too late now) people are seeing how dumb they were for voting for a moron.

[tsbrenda]

i understand & agree completely with what u say.
no more bushes in goverment.

wow! that was amazing that just ignored there teleprompter and said that.

[soul4real]

http://media.putfile.com/Kanye79

[TomSelis]

LOL!!!

Did you see Mike Myers and Chris Tucker's faces when he said it!!

Sheer comedy!!

[soul4real]

LOL!!!

Did you see Mike Myers and Chris Tucker's faces when he said it!!

Sheer comedy!!

That was the highlight of it!!!

Kanye looked a lil shook saying it too
but even when he said "the shooting us down"
Mike was looking like damn did he just say that?

[Kramer]

who is that clown with Mike Myers anyway??

Race has nothing to do with this. Are you good people out of your minds?

[blckhaze]

kanye west speak more truth than any other rapper out there. In his interview with Sway on MTV, he spoke out for gays and gays amoungst black. thats a nigga who isnt afraid to speak his mind

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[NickTheQuick]

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[Kramer]

Man my boy Mike was one uncomfortable dude there. Right or wrong Kanye did those folk down there a lot of diservice. There is half the country (Republicans) with a reason to tune out the overall message and likely refuse to donate money because of what one pissed off guy said. That was not the proper platform to debate politics or Bush's stand on this. There were plenty of Republicans that have lost lives or homes in all of this also.


You are 100% correct Nick! I'll tell you right now, you read my mind.

I myself am Republican, and was gonna donate a few grand to those poor people down there, but now Im not sure I can send a dime. Iam so sick of the Race Card coming into play at the blink of an eye. What was that moron West, saying? Race, race,race. Im sick of it already!!! :evil:

[tsbrenda]

who is that clown with Mike Myers anyway??

Race has nothing to do with this. Are you good people out of your minds?

THATS THE MAN WHO SINGS THE HIT song JESUS WALKS!
I thought myers was the comedian?


kenya west produced alot of popular songs and has another hit GOLDIGGER featuring jamie fox

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

who is that clown with Mike Myers anyway??

Race has nothing to do with this. Are you good people out of your minds?

I don't usually play the race card but let's face facts
the majority of the area that needs aide right now is populated by African Americans
troops have been given orders to shoot looters on site, so that means in this case, anyone you see leaving a store with water, baby formula, diapers, etc. which is what MOST of the media has been showing, the assholes are showing the folks with the plasma screens etc. CAN & WILL BE SHOT ON SITE......................
let's be serious for a minute
if N.O. was in this situation with a 90% population of caucasians that order would not have been given..........

oh yeah partly
http://img354.imageshack.us/img354/660/11257189293231mv.jpg
little girls should not be kissing chimps in dress attire

[sexyredman]

People kill me with this "Race Card" myth, like the discrimination against races ceases to exist because of a few customary words in legislation that hold no weight. The very people who say things like "people are people, I judge everyone the same" are the very people who can afford to be oblivious to the priviledges afforded to them for being on the most benefited side of the racial divide. Racism in this country is so systematic, so woven into the fabric of our existence that people refuse to recognize it no matter the mountain of evidence is presented to them. And its understandable, why one would not WANT to recognize a system that repeatedly wrongs people if he or she is in the party of people reaping the benefits. Our national mascot shouldn't be a bald eagle, it should be an ostrich with its head planted firmly underneath the ground for fear of having to acknowledge the world around it.



Here is a more complete clip of Kanye's statement. How dare a black man have the audacity to speak his truth and not the words fed to him. Trust that black people can't afford to forget that people have died for lesser infractions.

http://www.pixelmd.com/kanye.html

[VegasGuy]

Live on NBC last line they allowed him to say "George Bush doesn't care about Black people anyway................................"

I think the better way to have put it would be, "George Bush doesn't care about poor black people." My sociology professor said it best when he said that rich black people have more in common with rich white people then they do with poor black people. Do I think the response has been slow? Yes. Could more have been done? Yes. Do I think that the National Guard has been sent in to gun down black people? Hell No. With the way the situation has deteriorated the only way you are going to have a proper evacuation and or distribution of supplies is to regain control of the city, its in anarchy.

[TominNYC]

This is all about race and class !!! Can you picture a city like Seattle in the same situation with thousands of white people and blue eyed babies crying forced to stay in a place without food and water for 5 days???

[Kramer]

Hey JWBL, under the picture of Bush, are you calling HIM, the chimp?!?!

If so you have a serious mental problem.

Since when are white males called chimps? You are almost funny.

[Kramer]

You people playing the Race Card are officially out of control!!!!

Stop the complaining already and send them some $$$$.

I feel sorry for those people because they are poor and helpless. Race never entered my thoughts, until I hear people like you crying about race this and race that.

Iam sickened by youre crying over race, and cant send a dime now!! :evil:

[sexyredman]

Hey JWBL, under the picture of Bush, are you calling HIM, the chimp?!?!

If so you have a serious mental problem.

Since when are white males called chimps? You are almost funny.

You must have not cut the eyeholes in your white hood big enough to be blind to the fact that Bush is likened to a chimp on a regular basis by political pundits, politicians, cartoonists, and satirists.

Here is just an example

http://www.bushorchimp.com/

[sexyredman]

You people playing the Race Card are officially out of control!!!!

Stop the complaining already and send them some $$$$.

I feel sorry for those people because they are poor and helpless. Race never entered my thoughts, until I hear people like you crying about race this and race that.

Iam sickened by youre crying over race, and cant send a dime now!! :evil:


Where is the logic in that? You mean comments over an ichatboard are closing up your heart to an ounce of compassion for your fellow suffering humans, or is it that you never intended to write a check in the first place and just want to sell wolf tickets?

[Kramer]

You must have not cut the eyeholes in your white hood big enough to be blind to the fact that Bush is likened to a chimp on a regular basis by political pundits, politicians, cartoonists, and satirists


You are pathetic, sexyred!! No, I have never heard people say Bush looked like a chimp. I dont read liberal trash propaganda. White hood?? You mean clan? There you go again, people disagree with someone he must be a clansman!! What a fool you are.


And yes, I was gonna send bucks, but im so furious right now..............

[sexyredman]

You must have not cut the eyeholes in your white hood big enough to be blind to the fact that Bush is likened to a chimp on a regular basis by political pundits, politicians, cartoonists, and satirists


You are pathetic, sexyred!! No, I have never heard people say Bush looked like a chimp. I dont read liberal trash propaganda. White hood?? You mean clan? There you go again, people disagree with someone he must be a clansman!! What a fool you are.


And yes, I was gonna send bucks, but im so furious right now..............

I disagree with the implication you made about that photo, the fact that you questioned who should be referred to as a chimp in that photo, Bush or the little girl. That did not escape me.

Are you full of rage or full of shit? Nothing anybody on a message board TYPES should sway you from doing what you feel is right in your heart, unless it was just a meaningless gesture to excuse you from a guilt trip in the first place.

[Kramer]

I disagree with the implication you made about that photo, the fact that you questioned who should be referred to as a chimp in that photo, Bush or the little girl. That did not escape me



Whoa knock it off now. Everyone knows that blacks have been called chimps and gorillas in the past. You know it and I know it, cut the bullshit!

Look we can go back and forth on this all night. You believe what you want to believe. Name calling is a waste of time, and politics dont belong here.

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[Reddman]

Hey JWBL, under the picture of Bush, are you calling HIM, the chimp?!?!

If so you have a serious mental problem.

Since when are white males called chimps? You are almost funny.


WTF!!!! No Kramer not white men in general but Baby Bush in particular. Maybe you don't check the "liberal propaganda trash" i guess that your brand of propaganda trash is better huh???

So in this time of great need you go all pussy (I'm keeping my money,blah, blah) about what an entertainer says the heat of the moment. Please spare us your brand of compassionate conservatism :roll: . Just do what you feel is right and true to your heart. True a TS porno board might not be the place for politics esp now as let's agree to disagree and keep the help keeping on.

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[Reddman]

Live on NBC last line they allowed him to say "George Bush doesn't care about Black people anyway................................"

I think the better way to have put it would be, "George Bush doesn't care about poor black people." My sociology professor said it best when he said that rich black people have more in common with rich white people then they do with poor black people. Do I think the response has been slow? Yes. Could more have been done? Yes. Do I think that the National Guard has been sent in to gun down black people? Hell No. With the way the situation has deteriorated the only way you are going to have a proper evacuation and or distribution of supplies is to regain control of the city, its in anarchy.


Vegas i concur with ya. The folks of NO who could not evac have two strikes against them 1) class and 2) race. Neo Con writer David Brooks
had a very interesting column in the NYT on the historicial intersection of class, race and floods from America's past. check it out http://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/01/opinion/01brooks.html?n=Top%2FOpinion%2FEditorials%20and%2 0Op-Ed%2FOp-Ed%2FColumnists

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

a few things:

#1: I was in no way shape or form calling anyone else that is caucasian a chimp, merely stating something many comedians, news anchors, and even politicians have said about Bush Jr.......................

#2: This country has been about things revolving race for centuries.

#3: Kramer this is directed solely to you....................I have sent money along with others in my community to the Red Cross for aide in the southern states that were affected. I did it without question as I am sure some others on the board have also. The very fact that this thread has enraged you to the point where you are so furious you can hardly contain your fingers from shaking on the keyboard worries me. That might be a sign for a vacation away from electronic devices...............just a thought not trying to make your blood pressure any higher than it obviously already is........................

#4: Don't think a little flooding will unite the masses for good, Walmart (an equal opportunity employer corporation worth billions) sent very little $$$ to N.O. for aide, sadly Vegas has sent more money than Walmart come to think of it.
Other countries have even offered us fuel to help control the oil supplier spikes, let's see if the prices go down (highly doubtful) why? race issue/cock size fight Bush vs. any other leader of any other country.

#5: Buy gas today!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Dont be fooled by this bullshit strike on gas on September 3rd. Right now 87 octane in NYC is $3.19, you hold out for a day if you want, tomorrow it will be $3.59, oil suppliers have us by the balls; lol, China has had citizens riding bicycles for decades to & from work now they are seeking oil, the U.S. has had citizens driving for decades, now they might be seeking bicycles......................go figure!!!!!!

oh yeah: thank you so much for that animated pic with West & Myers, thats staying in my signature until Curious George the chimp is out of office; expect to see Kanye in a guest clip in Austin Powers #4 because of that little statement, Myers uses shit like this to his advantage.

[Slither]

I don't usually play the race card but let's face facts
the majority of the area that needs aide right now is populated by African Americans
troops have been given orders to shoot looters on site, so that means in this case, anyone you see leaving a store with water, baby formula, diapers, etc. which is what MOST of the media has been showing, the assholes are showing the folks with the plasma screens etc. CAN & WILL BE SHOT ON SITE......................
let's be serious for a minute
if N.O. was in this situation with a 90% population of caucasians that order would not have been given..........

I'd feel a lot more sympathy for those people if they weren't shooting at the planes and helicopters trying to come rescue them.

Kanye West is a dumbass, plain and simple. What makes him think George Bush doesn't care about black people? Because a yahoo AP news story showed white people "finding" stuff and black people "looting"? Brilliant idea! Now let me go on TV and call the president a racist! Marketing 101 would indicate you don't piss off half your viewing audience who might have donated money before you opened your big mouth, by being a self-centered jackass.

It isn't about blacks and whites, it's rich vs. poor, plain and simple. America is an affluent, comfortable, capitalist society that doesn't give a fuck about the poor. Whether they are black/white/tan or any other color, is of little importance.

The Race Card - Don't leave home without it :)

[TomSelis]

I myself am Republican, and was gonna donate a few grand to those poor people down there, but now Im not sure I can send a dime. Iam so sick of the Race Card coming into play at the blink of an eye. What was that moron West, saying? Race, race,race. Im sick of it already!!! :evil:

Whaaaaat? Did you just say "Now I'm not sure I can send a dime?" because of what that man said? You are not sending money now because....? Are you kidding me? This is thinly veiled bull. What he said shouldn't affect you giving anything if it was in your heart, nor anybody else.

Race card being played. Let's see, what has the media done so far? When black people are taking things it's "looting" when white people are taking things it's "finding." When a white person saves somebody they're a "hero" when a black man steals a bus (doesn't even know how to drive the bus) and takes it to another state to save people he's a "thief" and they're trying to decide whether or not to press charges.

I'm not pulling this out of the air, this is how the media has been covering events.

I'm not on the race thing, but I'm glad someone said it. It's out there now and it should be.

[Quinn]

It seems to me that people from all political and racial persuasions are looking to use this disaster as a means to further their own agendas. Pathetic.

In the last year, I have purchased a number of properties in Georgia and Pennsylvania, many of which I chose not to rent to anyone. These properties are being made available to people from New Orleans at no cost to them. What's my point? It's the refugees -- and they are refugees -- that matter, not anyone's narrow political agenda. There will be plenty of time to hold the appropriate people accountable once the situation has stabilized.

-Quinn

[castabyss]

All that matters is money and support. Send it if you can (even if it means you can't pay for your favorite porno site this month). Volunteer for the relief effort if you live near there. All the rest is window dressing.

CA

[brickcitybrother]

JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel:

Sorry to come late to the discussion. But Late support is better than none. You got it right ... leave it at that. If we can get US Corproations to pledge support for the Tsumani victims... is it tooo much to ask them to do the same (or at least not price gouge the citizens at the pumps) Nothing's stopping them from saying that they would hold their PROFITS to pre-hurricane levels. Yes PROFITS. Oh well I can dream the dream ... that can't gouge that from me.

[tsluver247]

Live on NBC last line they allowed him to say "George Bush doesn't care about Black people anyway................................"

I can see his point, but I think he is wrong. George Bush does NOT like BLACK people AND POOR people.

After Bush and his Administration have continued to say America has been safer under his Administration, we see now how this is just another Bush LIE. After seeing the response to Hurricane Katrina, which was a WARNING, I would hate to think of the response to a terrorist attack that would most likely have NO WARNING.

[steeveX]

[quote]
I'd feel a lot more sympathy for those people if they weren't shooting at the planes and helicopters trying to come rescue them.

Kanye West is a dumbass, plain and simple.
It isn't about blacks and whites, it's rich vs. poor, plain and simple. America is an affluent, comfortable, capitalist society that doesn't give a fuck about the poor. Whether they are black/white/tan or any other color, is of little importance.

The Race Card - Don't leave home without it :)

kanye west will never be as dumbass as the guy you use as your avatar. a white racist drugaddict. that was polluting airwaves and music television back in the early 1990ies. that you use him as an avatar tells a lot about you.

ps: maybe THATS excactly the problme with this country, that it is a capitalist society that doesnt give a fuck about the poor. on local and global perspective. USE YOUR ILLUSION!

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

ahhhhhhhhhhhhh isnt it nice to actually have a conversation? LOL
for those of you that have sent even $1 for aide I applaud you; I just dropped off a bunch of old clothes I was never going to use, hopefully it makes it's way down to someone who can use it, if not I tried.
At this point in time I honestly feel grateful that I am in a position to do anything at all to help, as I am sure many of you probably feel the same way.

This is only the 1st step, we've got homeless people in our own areas and they should be taken care of next (I know wishful thinking) but the ball is rolling so why stop it.

One key note: there's alot of orphans now, many parents did not make it........ let's hope they get a place to grow up, that's the future

[geekmeat]

It seems to me that people from all political and racial persuasions are looking to use this disaster as a means to further their own agendas. Pathetic.

In the last year, I have purchased a number of properties in Georgia and Pennsylvania, many of which I chose not to rent to anyone. These properties are being made available to people from New Orleans at no cost to them. What's my point? It's the refugees -- and they are refugees -- that matter, not anyone's narrow political agenda. There will be plenty of time to hold the appropriate people accountable once the situation has stabilized.

-Quinn

Let me ask you a question genius.
When bush stepped off that plane and went through a pre planned walk through was that a "narrow political agenda"?
When bush thanked the F.E.M.A people for the "great" job that they were doing after it was appearant they had failed worse than any human endeavor ever was that a "narrow political agenda"?
People like you sicken me.

[castabyss]

Geek,

Why don't you put some of the bile and energy you spew all over this board into action and head down south to help with the relief effort instead of pathetically trying to bully people with your partisan sound-bytes. It might be therapeutic for you. I have always voted Democrat (not always happily) and I'm NO fan of Bush, but Jesus, get over yourself. Quinn is right, responsibility for better preventative measures will be assigned later. Right now you're just spewing leftist platitudes and I, for one, would like to remind the more conservative members of our constituency here that Geekmeat does not represent the majority of more liberal minded thinkers. Last time I checked, we hadn't made him King. On behalf of more thoughtful Democrats/Independents, I apologize for his intellectually challanged outbursts.

Please allow more healthy and reasonable discussion to continue, instead of making it all about YOU, Geek.

CA

[swamprat4077]

[quote]
I'd feel a lot more sympathy for those people if they weren't shooting at the planes and helicopters trying to come rescue them.

Kanye West is a dumbass, plain and simple.
It isn't about blacks and whites, it's rich vs. poor, plain and simple. America is an affluent, comfortable, capitalist society that doesn't give a fuck about the poor. Whether they are black/white/tan or any other color, is of little importance.

The Race Card - Don't leave home without it :)

kanye west will never be as dumbass as the guy you use as your avatar. a white racist drugaddict. that was polluting airwaves and music television back in the early 1990ies. that you use him as an avatar tells a lot about you.

ps: maybe THATS excactly the problme with this country, that it is a capitalist society that doesnt give a fuck about the poor. on local and global perspective. USE YOUR ILLUSION!

Seems to me that's what all of us are doing right now.
Using our own illusion.
NONE of us unless we are there can even begin to know what's going on in the minds of those people.

Bush is an idiot, but that's not exactly new news.
We all have our own views on how we would do it, or fix this.

Focus on the people, and forget this bullshit about racism, politics, and all that other meaningless crap.

Wishing ill will on people doesnt solve a thing.

[tsluver247]

What is appalling is the FEMA people actually enacted a scenario of a hurriance and the levies breaking before this event (CNN reported). WTF did they learn from the enacted event? Obviously, NOTHING.

[Quinn]

It seems to me that people from all political and racial persuasions are looking to use this disaster as a means to further their own agendas. Pathetic.

In the last year, I have purchased a number of properties in Georgia and Pennsylvania, many of which I chose not to rent to anyone. These properties are being made available to people from New Orleans at no cost to them. What's my point? It's the refugees -- and they are refugees -- that matter, not anyone's narrow political agenda. There will be plenty of time to hold the appropriate people accountable once the situation has stabilized.

-Quinn

Let me ask you a question genius.
When bush stepped off that plane and went through a pre planned walk through was that a "narrow political agenda"?
When bush thanked the F.E.M.A people for the "great" job that they were doing after it was appearant they had failed worse than any human endeavor ever was that a "narrow political agenda"?
People like you sicken me.

Geakmeat,

Listen, you dimwitted poltroon. I hate Bush at least as much as the next guy – but I am smart enough to know that helping people when they are down is much more important than running my mouth in pursuit of some ill-timed agenda. During the next Congressional election and the next Presidential election is when the American people get to settle up with all who are responsible for this fiasco – both Republican and Democrat.

Over time, I have enjoyed your utterly ignorant and unstable ramblings as much as the next guy, mostly because I view you as a clown who isn't to be taken seriously. This situation is different. People need help, not empty rhetoric that won't produce any result. Look, the sooner you realize that you are just a sad, ineffective, and angry little man who has nothing to offer anyone, the better off we will all be because then you just might stop wasting our time.

-Quinn

[geekmeat]

FORGET IT

[Quinn]

Smartest thing you've said all day.

-Quinn

[geekmeat]

Man my boy Mike was one uncomfortable dude there. Right or wrong Kanye did those folk down there a lot of diservice. There is half the country (Republicans) with a reason to tune out the overall message and likely refuse to donate money because of what one pissed off guy said. That was not the proper platform to debate politics or Bush's stand on this. There were plenty of Republicans that have lost lives or homes in all of this also.


You are 100% correct Nick! I'll tell you right now, you read my mind.

I myself am Republican, and was gonna donate a few grand to those poor people down there, but now Im not sure I can send a dime. Iam so sick of the Race Card coming into play at the blink of an eye. What was that moron West, saying? Race, race,race. Im sick of it already!!! :evil:


I myself am Republican,

Unbelievable

[chefmike]

Smartest thing you've said all day.

-Quinnthat pretty much sums it up...

[MoonAndStar]

Man... Kanye is the truth....

in the entire programme he was the only brother out there who had some balls... the whole world had the same thoughts as Kanye.... difference is he said it.... and good for him....

i dont know why the help didnt come for sooo long.... all i know it was a fuked up situation and america is suposed to have the 'interests' of the people..... regardless of colour, race, religion, culture, etc...

[Kramer]

Hey geek, you and I appear to be in the same boat. Forget trying to talk politics with liberal/dems they are still sore over the last 2 elections.
We are outnumbered on this topic, and nothing we say will change their closed minds.

We all have 1 thing in common here though...............buck naked trannies!!! Lets enjoy them!

[chefmike]

Yo Kramer!! maybe you better read the geekster's rants a little closer BEFORE you two start your kindler, gentler nation...hehe...I'm not sure you guys are of the same mind...EXCEPT for the fact you are both wound WAY too tight...and don't forgit!! fight terrer!! everywhar!! them sumbitches are jealous of our freedom!! we must bring freedom to them bastids, whether they want it or not!! like we did for Chile, when that godawful, democratically elected, socialist sumbich Allende had the temerity to lawfully govern his people!! they are jealous of our freedom!! just be careful of what you check out of the library, slick... semper fi...

[geekmeat]

Hey geek, you and I appear to be in the same boat. Forget trying to talk politics with liberal/dems they are still sore over the last 2 elections.
We are outnumbered on this topic, and nothing we say will change their closed minds.

We all have 1 thing in common here though...............buck naked trannies!!! Lets enjoy them!

I am a liberal.
I dont want to call you names and such because I know most republicans are braindead.
By the way,if you and I were in the same boat I would toss you out!

[geekmeat]

Yo Kramer!! maybe you better read the geekster's rants a little closer BEFORE you two start your kindler, gentler nation...hehe...I'm not sure you guys are of the same mind...EXCEPT for the fact you are both wound WAY too tight...and don't forgit!! fight terrer!! everywhar!! them sumbitches are jealous of our freedom!! we must bring freedom to them bastids, whether they want it or not!! like we did for Chile, when that godawful, democratically elected, socialist sumbich Allende had the temerity to lawfully govern his people!! they are jealous of our freedom!! just be careful of what you check out of the library, slick... semper fi...

You see what Im dealing with?
These republican nazis cant even read and comprehend on a basic level.
By the way the above post is hillarious!

[geekmeat]

http://bayarea.indymedia.org/news/2005/09/1764214.php

[DatNigga4Real]

Kanye crazy yaw, a nigga goes 6 times platinum and dont know how to act. But yeah. it took 5 days (and counting) to act on da Hurricane, but it took da 9-11 incident 15 minutes. Bush gotta get his priorities in line.

[Kramer]

Er......................................my mistake geek. I didnt realize you were one of those close minded liberals I cant stand.

And now onto another topic......................................

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[lurker]

K West is rapper. He uses his rights by the first amendment to get his message out. Good for him.

But i don't believe I heard the president ever say 'black are looting' and 'whites are finding'. It is the media and the individual agenda of the reporters and their networks that are bending the facts. It struck me as funny that right after the hurricane, the studio reporters were interviewing the field reporters on how they handled the storm. Once again the media had stopped reporting the story in order to become the story.

And I'm tired of hearing all the comparisons to The Destruction of the Towers. In the case of the towers there wss no warning before the first plane struck. The second plane did not strike for another 30 minutes. And by then the NYFD and NYPD were en route and then stepped up the number of personnel on the way. And the NYPD is damn near to being an army by itself! Why does this not compare? Because it was a localised site. The surrounding area was not flooded. The surrounding area provided access by road and not just by air.

And no amount of simulations and enactments can really get you ready for the real thing. Practicing, without the actual imminent threat and danger will never evoke the fear, panic, and sever emotional reaction that comes with the real thing. Don't believe... ask any cop about the first time someone pulled agun on him, ask any fireman about the first time he had to run into a burning building not knowing if there were actual victims in danger. go ahead, ask. I'll wait.

Now go get in a helicopter, fly low, watch out for power lines, watch out for news helicopters, and try to find people on the rooftops.

For any interested in getting a full grasp and trying to understand the logistics and size of this operation download google earth and then grab the images of the flooded areas. It is unrealistic to think a search and rescue can find and feed all the lost people in a city the size of N'awlins in two days. But hopefully, we will all be better prepared next time.

--lurker.

[steeveX]

Mr. West has got my support anytime. simply because he is the only rapper reaching the mainstream these days that actually uses his brain if you like his statement or not (i for my part think he is RIGHT).

for instance a song critisizing the bling bling foolishness of the current hip hop lot (yes i m talking about you, NELLY, musical and intellectual nadir of 30 ys rap history) and the bloodshed and oppression that is connected with the diamond industry is a brave, bold and unique act unseen in todays spiritually, intellectually and i might add musically poor bling bling ringtone rap .

[Angel]

i respect kanye even more after seeing that

[geekmeat]

Wow
I just saw the video of Kayne West and he was really feeling it.
You can tell he was VERY emotional about the situation.
I have to say I agree with him.
I have another thing to say........I was living in Virginia at the time hurricane
Andrew hit.
I was very poor and living in the housing projects of Virginia a place called the bottom with my sister and beleive me it IS the bottom.
THEY EVACUATED US and we had to stay overnight in a school.
We had NO transportation........most poor black people DONT HAVE CARS!
So I can empathize with whats going on in New Orleans because I have gone through it.
This crap about blaming the victim is typical right-wing republican bullshit.
I say horay to Kayne West!
I might even buy one of his records now.

[chefmike]

Wow
I just saw the video of Kayne West and he was really feeling it.
You can tell he was VERY emotional about the situation.
I have to say I agree with him.
I have another thing to say........I was living in Virginia at the time hurricane
Andrew hit.
I was very poor and living in the housing projects of Virginia a place called the bottom with my sister and beleive me it IS the bottom.
THEY EVACUATED US and we had to stay overnight in a school.
We had NO transportation........most poor black people DONT HAVE CARS!
So I can empathize with whats going on in New Orleans because I have gone through it.
This crap about blaming the victim is typical right-wing republican bullshit.
I say horay to Kayne West!
I might even buy one of his records now.I'm from Virginia and was living there when Andrew hit FLORIDA and LOUISIANA...you mention living in the bottom, meaning Richmond, correct?...feel free to show me proof if I'm wrong, but either you're playing fast and loose with the facts or? were you evacuated because of rain? please enlighten me? Virginia Beach, where I lived, is on the OCEAN, unlike Richmond, and there has never been anything close to Katrina there, or anywhere else in VA...maybe it's time to cease this drama queen vibe you got goin on...it's histrionics like that that give libs and dems a bad rep!!

[geekmeat]

This is the Kanye West video everyone is talking about.
http://www.indybay.org/uploads/kayne-west-bush-black-people.mov

The photo is what bush was doing last tuesday.
Notice the concerned look on his face.

[geekmeat]

Wow
I just saw the video of Kayne West and he was really feeling it.
You can tell he was VERY emotional about the situation.
I have to say I agree with him.
I have another thing to say........I was living in Virginia at the time hurricane
Andrew hit.
I was very poor and living in the housing projects of Virginia a place called the bottom with my sister and beleive me it IS the bottom.
THEY EVACUATED US and we had to stay overnight in a school.
We had NO transportation........most poor black people DONT HAVE CARS!
So I can empathize with whats going on in New Orleans because I have gone through it.
This crap about blaming the victim is typical right-wing republican bullshit.
I say horay to Kayne West!
I might even buy one of his records now.I'm from Virginia and was living there when Andrew hit FLORIDA and LOUISIANA...you mention living in the bottom, meaning Richmond, correct?...feel free to show me proof if I'm wrong, but either you're playing fast and loose with the facts or? were you evacuated because of rain? please enlighten me? Virginia Beach, where I lived, is on the OCEAN, unlike Richmond, and there has never been anything close to Katrina there, or anywhere else in VA...maybe it's time to cease this drama queen vibe you got goin on...it's histrionics like that that give libs and dems a bad rep!!

Newport News Virginia

We WERE evacuated........school buses picked us up and No I didnt say it was as bad as Katrina.......please read S-L-O-W-L-Y from now on.

Peace

[geekmeat]

MR. RUSSERT: All right.

MR. BROUSSARD: ...that have worked 24/7. They´re burned out, the
doctors, the nurses. _And I want to give you one last story and I´ll
shut up and let you tell me whatever you want to tell me. The guy who
runs this building I´m in, emergency management, he´s responsible for
everything. His mother was trapped in St. Bernard nursing home and
every day she called him and said, "Are you coming, son? Is somebody
coming?" And he said, "Yeah, Mama, somebody´s coming to get you.
Somebody´s coming to get you on Tuesday. Somebody´s coming to get you on
Wednesday. Somebody´s coming to get you on Thursday. Somebody´s coming
to get you on Friday." And she drowned Friday night. She drowned
Friday night.

[chefmike]

"So I can empathize with what's going on because I've been through it."..maybe you should read SLOWLY, your OWN posts, that is...and you told us earlier you're an expert on hurricanes, because supposedly you lived in Florida, also? I'm beginning to think you were raised in an incubator...now you've been abandoned, without your meds, and only the media to fuel your pathetic fantasy world...but I've got some succulent smoked ribs to eat, so you're gonna have to entertain me later, geekboy...

[geekmeat]

"So I can empathize with what's going on because I've been through it."..maybe you should read SLOWLY, your OWN posts, that is...and you told us earlier you're an expert on hurricanes, because supposedly you lived in Florida, also? I'm beginning to think you were raised in an incubator...now you've been abandoned, without your meds, and only the media to fuel your pathetic fantasy world...but I've got some succulent smoked ribs to eat, so you're gonna have to entertain me later, geekboy...

fuck you homo

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

lol

temper temper incubated one

[DatNigga4Real]

Wheter u agree with Kanye or not, he speaks his mind. LOOK AT MIKE MYERS FACE AFTER KANYE SAID THAT SHIT! LMAO LMAO :lol:



http://media.putfile.com/Kanye79 The funniest thing i ever seen live, next to the Pacers-Piston fight

[NickTheQuick]

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[partlycloudy]

http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/2180/211b2bc.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img13.imageshack.us/img13/8277/fb1b5yu.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[geekmeat]

fuck you homo

How many times do I have to flush before you go away?

PS If you would have read S-L-O-W-E-R you would have seen the video already posted on the 1st page.

Your a racist........I notice your from germany.......figures.
Uh........moderators?
You always want to ban me.........Allanahs ALWAYS talking about this and that.
Do you all see what he did?
It doesnt get more racist than that.
Im sure you will over look it though.

[brickcitybrother]

And to think I thought you were making a different reference with your name ... NickTheQuick. Oh well, be that as it may, I am totally lost as to your need to attack and denegrade Kanye West.

You don't like what he said - fine.
You think he should'nt have said it - fine.
You think that he doesn't have a moral leg to stand on - to make such remarks - fine and fine again.

These are debatable points.

But for you to go on and on, severly diminishes any credibility your might have possessed. As to the subject of Mr. West's remarks ... or indeed, their obeject - I have seen your other posts I do believe that you miss both points sorely!

The the absolute crisis left by Katrina is shedding an unwelcomed light on the government. I doubt you believe that the plight depicted everynight on the news - was caused by Mr. West.

~Brickcitybrother~

"Men fear thought as they fear nothing else on earth -- more than ruin -- more even than death.... Thought is subversive and revolutionary, destructive and terrible, thought is merciless to privilege, established institutions, and comfortable habit. Thought looks into the pit of hell and is not afraid. Thought is great and swift and free, the light of the world, and the chief glory of man."

[NickTheQuick]

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[rick_932]

I realize the pic can potentially be viewed as insensitive by some. It has been on AllHipHop.com (a site that receives a lot more black traffic than this one) and not one person has complained so far. And they complain and argue far more there than we do here. But I will respect anyone's wishes (other than the Nutty Professor) to remove it.

that shit's funny man. thats where i first saw those pics

[chefmike]

fuck you homo Now there's a witty retort!! It reminds one of the old expression "I refuse to engage in a battle of wits with an unarmed man"...well done, geekboy!!