THIS IS RIDICULOUS! poor management/organization for the

[tsbrenda]

THIS IS RIDICULOUS! Poor management/organization for the Katrina disaster. If this had been a war we would be in a lot of trouble.
Those dc-10/helicopters est. can drop water/mre's on the roofs of the homes of people who are stranded poor logistics. THIS IS OR COMMANDER IN CHEAF.

IF SOME ONE USE A SCHOOL BUS THAT NOT HIS TO TRANSPORT PEOPLE TO SAFETY , why? call them a thief or a looter and say there in big trouble why not say they are doing there best to get there necessities.
The priority should be not to stop looting but to get organization and priorities things such as water and medicine drops.

NO! Don’t call off search and rescue
To stop looting. People are mostly taking what’s needed

[stickpussygalore]

Our gentle readers might take you a tad more seriously if you would refer to President Bush correctly as our commander-in-chief, and not incorrectly as "commander & cheaf."

Additionally, a better command of the English language and basic grasp of grammitical precepts (i.e. punctuation, for one) would go a long way in getting your point across, and would make for a much more compelling, cogent, convincing argument.

[Ecstatic]

I disagree. This is the wrong sort topic to pick on someone's grammar, spelling or command of the English language. Brenda's point is clear enough even if her English is not. Perhaps she is Latina speaking English as a second language (though that's only a guess), but that doesn't mean she shouldn't speak her mind.

[tsbrenda]

people know what I mean I don't type very good & i hit many keys by mistake but THE POINT IS NOT MY SPELLING OR GRAMMER.
THE POINT IS AID IMMEDIATLY FOR NEW ORLEAN PEOPLE!

[tsbrenda]

OH AND I AM NOT SPANISH I AM AMERICAN

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

I got the message, as I'm sure others did........................
just so you know we have a thread going on Katrina already, you might find some interesting comments and links there

[tsbrenda]

THANKS & I beleived people needed to know how ridicoulous this is as far as the organization of relief efforts.

i believed it was so important that it needed its own thread.

the news keeps emphasizing that the military is takin weapons and there qualified to use them is insane when people are most takin what actually needed for survival such as water , gas and transportation

[Ecstatic]

Sorry Brenda. I didn't mean to imply that you are Spanish or any other nationality, only that grammar and spelling don't matter on a topic like this, and that we should welcome the comments of anyone regardless of background, language, or typing skills.

[tsbrenda]

hey its ok I was just clarifying that I am not hispanic or latin est.

[TgirlloverinPA]

How about...

George, George, George of the BUNGLE! WATCH OUT FOR THAT WMD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's a disgrace, welcome to the third world!

[TgirlloverinPA]

And just imagine, these are the same people that are keeping us safe from terrorists. And when they do attack again, the people that are supposed to rescue us. Gives me a warm fuzzy feeling.

This country needs to reconcile or we're doomed. Hate to be a downer.

[stickpussygalore]

Sheesh, talk about "killing two birds with one stone," so to speak.

This honey is American AND can't formulate a sentence in proper English.

In other words, you -- sir -- stand corrected.

Yet I digress...

Be that as it may, a natural disaster of this kind is unprecedented and will take weeks, if not months, to fully resolve.

Is President Bush to blame? Partly.

The Army Corps of Engineers did a study years ago indicating that New Orleans' levees needed to be reinforced against the possibility of a natural disaster.

Subsequently, President Clinton provided funding for the reparation of the levee system, but then President Bush turned around years later and diverted those monies toward the war in Iraq.

Now think about how much sense that makes: we now now have funds available to install our brand of democracy in Iraq, but we don't have money available to take care of our own at home.

You do the math.

[tsbrenda]

HEY I MADE IT TO MEDICAL SCHOOL ,I am the " GO TO PERSON" if you have issue that need medical attention, colleges say my reading and writing skill or up to date . I went to some of the better schools but my typing is terrible and it causes all type of problems but who has time to correct things? I could edit it but you got the message & you understand.

YOU UNDERSTAND SO WHATS THE USE!

[TgirlloverinPA]

EXACTLY! Hey, the next time you're driving over an interstate bridge you can think to yourself...

Well I may not make it, the bridge may collapse, but at least that iraqi kid has a new school that he can't get to because the "most powerful" army in the world can't handle a fe w pissant insurgents.

Look, I fully support our troops, let them do what they're supposed to do! It's our policies I question. I mean we seem to be making enemies faster than we can kill them.

Hey, FREEDOM FRIES???? You want our French Fry OIL???? I wouldn't blame them if they gave us the french f'ck off. Well, at least let the neo cons suffer!

[TgirlloverinPA]

Brenda, I'm sure they could use your talents down there.

I tried to volunteer but apparently they don't need anymore corporate middle managers to hand out bottles of water. But they do want my money and blood which I gave happily.

[tsbrenda]

MY OPINION IS that you need more military in iraq TO COVER THE WHOLE AREA

GUESS WHAT THE NEWS JUST SAID ? THE POLICE OR FORCED TO LOOT THE STORES THEMSELVES TO GET NECCESSITIES SUCH AS WATER ECT AND the police or turning in there badges and quitting in new orleans

[TgirlloverinPA]

Yeah we need more troops in Iraq. But we shouldn't be there in the first place.

Just remember, no matter how pissed we are about 9/11 (which I lived through), Iraq had nothing to do with it. And if the neo cons that are currently running this country had their way we'd all be in jail.

[stickpussygalore]

Thank you.

Finally, a beacon of common sense.

[tsbrenda]

yeah but its for the oil remember, planes can not fly without oil we refine oil to get gas ,jet fuel,asphalt ect.

water is expensive in iraq but oil is cheap and gas is below $0.30/gallon


new orleans needs all our help

[TgirlloverinPA]

Sorry Brenda. But if it were for the OIL we wouldn't be paying 3.20+ for gas. That's a fallacy.

If it were about oil we could have taken Venezuala and the world wouldn't have been quite so pissed off. Not to mention the access to the TV/TS in south america!

[tsbrenda]

BUT YOU FORGET HIS WEALTH CAME FROM OIL, SO he benefits from this war and any oil price increases

I WANT EVERY ONE TO KNOW THAT www.shemaleescortsreview.com/sc/index.html

has removed all post concerning katrina and aid to the needy there. there website is barely making it fiannicially

[NickTheQuick]

...

[tsbrenda]

you have personnel issues! WITH NO ANSWERS or cure any time soon, THATS YOUR PROBLEM.

[tsluver247]

Bush and his Administration can not plan anything. They said that he did not have enough troops for the war. Not to fight the war, but to keep law and order and to keep insurgents to cross the borders. Not only did he did not have enough Hum-Vees in the beginning of the war, but the armor on the Humvees were inadequate. This is more of the same from Bush and his Administration. They do a good job as far as politicals and controlling their political critics and media, but the images of suffering Americans and all the many critics saying that the federal response was inadequate it is harder to control the message coming out since it is coming from all different angles. I am surprised that 48% of Americans still think he is doing a good job. Just look at the federal debt continue to grow to record levels, even though he came into office with the highest budget surplus on record.

[castabyss]

We also get roughly 25% of our oil through the New Orleans port from refineries in the Gulf of Mexico. That's why prices have gone up.

[tsbrenda]

all I am saying is that this rescue/aid operation is poorly & executed

[tsbrenda]

bush over all has very poor organization & management skills and he's not a very good public speaker.
this is the reason the situation is still bad now when it could be better.


how many will concur with what I say?

[tsbrenda]

maybeI should create a poll on this subject?

what do u think?

[geekmeat]

http://www.indybay.org/uploads/nagin.mp3

[chefmike]

Brenda! You're makin some excellent points...but it's saturday night...wouldn't you be happier if I turned you over my knee, and spanked you like the bad girl you are?...c'mon girl...pull down them panties...and talk dirty to me baby...

[tubgirl]

THANKS & I beleived people needed to know how ridicoulous this is as far as the organization of relief efforts.

i believed it was so important that it needed its own thread.

the news keeps emphasizing that the military is takin weapons and there qualified to use them is insane when people are most takin what actually needed for survival such as water , gas and transportation

so how do you explain the people that are looting color tv's, dvd players, games, etc. how about the ones that are raping children in the astrodome?

[tsbrenda]

you have a small amount that are takin non essential such as
tv that can not be used, RADIO AND BATTERIES OR IMPORTANT TO GET THE NEWS. PORTABLE TV OR IMPORTANT TO GET THE NEWS AND THE EMERGENGY ANNOUCMENTS.


WATER IS IMPORTANT TO TAKE.


1)WATER
2)FOOD
3)PORTABLE TV AND RADIOS


Ssome or taking beds from furniture places damaged in the storm so there children and pregnant wifes can lie on something besides concrete.

THE NEWS HAS BEEN TELLIN THE OTHER SIDE OF THE STORY LATELY.
the police were takin water and food from stores.

there was a guy who seen a bus with the keys in it and he had never drove a bus b4, he drove it to evaculate the city, some news programs say that he was in trouble I SAY HE WAS A HEREO , he had got the 1st people to the astrodome out of new orleans.

[tubgirl]

great job in dodging the question

[tsbrenda]

great job in dodging the question

in a hot climate its best to travel at night and sleep during the day.
the goverment is saying to shoot people who are out at night , thats ridicoulous.

here msn explaing that its a big issue, when the news see's a black person removing water from a store there looting but when they see a cacausin family there getting food and water


video.msn.com/v/us/v.htm?g=03ac64ed-a1e3-4c65-aa47-a38a6ea66fc5&t=m18&f=34/64&p=Source_Nightly%20News

[tsbrenda]

http://aolsvc.news.aol.com/news/article.adp?id=20050904090609990005



aolsvc.news.aol.com/news/article.adp?id=20050904090609990005

[tubgirl]

great job in dodging the question

in a hot climate its best to travel at night and sleep during the day.
the goverment is saying to shoot people who are out at night , thats ridicoulous.

here msn explaing that its a big issue, when the news see's a black person removing water from a store there looting but when they see a cacausin family there getting food and water


video.msn.com/v/us/v.htm?g=03ac64ed-a1e3-4c65-aa47-a38a6ea66fc5&t=m18&f=34/64&p=Source_Nightly%20News

oh wow, i can almost feel myself losing braincells reading your posts. the reason they don't want people out late at night is because they have finally started enforcing marshall law. something the state should have done from day one. maybe if the cops would have shot to kill on the first day, we wouldn't have had all the looting, rapes, and other assorted crimes.

i noticed that you still haven't mentioned the rape issue, but that's ok, we'll just drop it. btw- the kid who took the bus to the astrodome should be a hero, but he was far from the first one there. they actually told him they were full when he got there...

[skulley69]

I have read this entire thread from start to finish. I must say I am amazed at the people of this country. tsbrenda is nuts....period. If you have enough time to read and post to this forum, you certainly have enough time to use proper english and to proof read and correct your mistakes. As far as everyone complaining about President Bush's dealing with all of the issues at hand, I ask you this....Do you SERIOUSLY think that his competition would have been better. Now this is a rhetorical question yet I am sure that this post will get countless replies hammering me. That's OK. I served my country so that the people of this country could have the freedom to do so. I now understand why vicki leaves this board for long periods of time. I realize that I am new to this board and I initially thought it was the greatest thing ever when I found it. Now I have a serious problem. I hope not everyone in the country has the views or our country is seriously doomed. I see lots of complaints but no serious suggestions or solutions..... :( :(

[GroobySteven]

I served my country so that the people of this country could have the freedom to do so.

You served or you were doing a job?
seanchai

[lucx]

in a hot climate its best to travel at night and sleep during the day.
the goverment is saying to shoot people who are out at night , thats ridicoulous.



In a HOT climate?!? i dont think NEW ORLEANS is the SAHARA... or do you want to tell me that BEFORE the hurrycane everyone went out only at night because the days where too hot in the city....

[tubgirl]

I served my country so that the people of this country could have the freedom to do so.

You served or you were doing a job?
seanchai

out of his whole post, you picked this line to quote? if you are going after the angle of people enlisting only for the paycheck, just ask all the soldiers families who are on foodstamps or gov't assistance because the pay level is so low... :roll: :roll: :roll:

[GroobySteven]

I understood the rest of his post - I failed to understand this line - was asking for clarification...although now you brought it up, if those soldiers you mention whose familes are doing so bad, didn't join for the paycheck, then why? I don't see many of them having believe in what they're doing?
seanchai

[tsbrenda]

in a hot climate its best to travel at night and sleep during the day.
the goverment is saying to shoot people who are out at night , thats ridicoulous.



In a HOT climate?!? i dont think NEW ORLEANS is the SAHARA... or do you want to tell me that BEFORE the hurrycane everyone went out only at night because the days where too hot in the city....

THE ANSWER IS : they are without fresh water so to conserve water travel at night so you'll sweat less and stay cooler.

also instead of the news tellin stories and selling pictures/advertising they should help coordinate the efforts since they have satelitte communication and can tell were people who or stranded are at. what happen to the EBS OR EMERGENCY BROADCAST SYSTEM?

[rick_932]

theres many more places in the US that have hotter temperatures than New Orleans. at least in NO theres an afternoon shower that passes through every other day to cool us off for a while. the only bad thing about NO during the summer is the humidity. other than that, i dont have a problem staying outside for a long amount of time during the day. then again, ive been there my whole life so im used to it.

[tubgirl]

I understood the rest of his post - I failed to understand this line - was asking for clarification...although now you brought it up, if those soldiers you mention whose familes are doing so bad, didn't join for the paycheck, then why? I don't see many of them having believe in what they're doing?
seanchai

most of the soldiers i know didn't have families before they enlisted, they went right out of high school. my brother-in-law, for instance, went into the navy after HS. he went in to get training for a welding career. he basically did it to get a little structure in his life, and learn some skills for after military life.

my friends who are in, they knew what they were signing up for. but they were also willing to take the gamble for the educational rewards. i am pleased to say that bro-in-law is now home and doing well after three stints in iraq.

[skulley69]

I served my country so that the people of this country could have the freedom to do so.

You served or you were doing a job?
seanchai

I served in the US Navy onboard sub's....I did this of my own free will as a member of the Armed Forces of this country....Quite frankly I find your question offensive and your Patriotism questionable....Without the support of Civilians, the Servicemen and Servicewomen of this country are done a great dis-service. Whether they agree with the politics or not, they took an oath to defend the Constitution of the United States and to follow orders given by the Commander in Chief (George W. Bush, if you do not know who tha is---which I could believe), and while some people find this as merely a formality, most of the people I served with took this quite seriously, as do I. I think you have quite a bit of nerve to even bring up such a question. I read on other threads of your complaints of others posting images obtained from sites such as yours. Let me pose this question to you.....without the efforts of our men and women who volunteered, you would not have the freedom to run your porn site that you whine about people steaing from. Have you ever served???? If not, you have absolutely no fucking ground to ask me such a question, however, out of respect for others who enjoy reading posts on this board I have opted to answer your worthless question.....ASSHOLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :x :x :x

[tubgirl]

I served my country so that the people of this country could have the freedom to do so.

You served or you were doing a job?
seanchai

I served in the US Navy onboard sub's....I did this of my own free will as a member of the Armed Forces of this country....Quite frankly I find your question offensive and your Patriotism questionable....Without the support of Civilians, the Servicemen and Servicewomen of this country are done a great dis-service. Whether they agree with the politics or not, they took an oath to defend the Constitution of the United States and to follow orders given by the Commander in Chief (George W. Bush, if you do not know who tha is---which I could believe), and while some people find this as merely a formality, most of the people I served with took this quite seriously, as do I. I think you have quite a bit of nerve to even bring up such a question. I read on other threads of your complaints of others posting images obtained from sites such as yours. Let me pose this question to you.....without the efforts of our men and women who volunteered, you would not have the freedom to run your porn site that you whine about people steaing from. Have you ever served???? If not, you have absolutely no fucking ground to ask me such a question, however, out of respect for others who enjoy reading posts on this board I have opted to answer your worthless question.....ASSHOLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :x :x :x

very well said, thank you

[tsbrenda]

theres many more places in the US that have hotter temperatures than New Orleans. at least in NO theres an afternoon shower that passes through every other day to cool us off for a while. the only bad thing about NO during the summer is the humidity. other than that, i dont have a problem staying outside for a long amount of time during the day. then again, ive been there my whole life so im used to it.

YES BUT REMEMBER THERE WITHOUT FRESH WATER BECAUSE THE INFRASTRUCTURE WAS DAMAGED and you can die from not having fresh water within 3 to 5 days. a way to conserve water is to travel at night to places like the astrodome or any place that relief and aid is set up

[GroobySteven]

I served my country so that the people of this country could have the freedom to do so.

You served or you were doing a job?
seanchai

I served in the US Navy onboard sub's....I did this of my own free will as a member of the Armed Forces of this country....Quite frankly I find your question offensive and your Patriotism questionable....Without the support of Civilians, the Servicemen and Servicewomen of this country are done a great dis-service. Whether they agree with the politics or not, they took an oath to defend the Constitution of the United States and to follow orders given by the Commander in Chief (George W. Bush, if you do not know who tha is---which I could believe), and while some people find this as merely a formality, most of the people I served with took this quite seriously, as do I. I think you have quite a bit of nerve to even bring up such a question. I read on other threads of your complaints of others posting images obtained from sites such as yours. Let me pose this question to you.....without the efforts of our men and women who volunteered, you would not have the freedom to run your porn site that you whine about people steaing from. Have you ever served???? If not, you have absolutely no fucking ground to ask me such a question, however, out of respect for others who enjoy reading posts on this board I have opted to answer your worthless question.....ASSHOLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :x :x :x

So you took a job, for pay and other benefits? Well done - there are plenty of teachers, medics, fireman and other worthy jobs - are they also serving. In fact, is anyone who pays taxes contributing to your wages which kept you on your submarine, serving?
I don't feel it's disrespect I just miss the point of saying you're "serving"- it was just a job. Unless of course, you were drafted or volunteered for a war effort?
I fail to see exactly what "your efforts" have done for me but if it makes you feel good, then by all means give yourself a pat on the back.

seanchai

[tsbrenda]

bush's approval rating drops, femma head pads his resume. looks like he was over his head and could get things organized for this disater

[AllanahStarrNYC]

so skully basically anyone who disagrees with anyone's comments is reason to leave the boards? what a bunch of horseshit. people love to be dramatic on here and make these grand exits and end up right back here only making complete asses of themselves.

if you are gonna post an opinion then stick to it and that's that.

don't be a drama queen.

going back to the service men question - yes bush is an asshole- a complete idiot. hence why he can't manage public speaking after 5 years in office, why he looks completely uncomfortable and stiff in public and when interacting with people, and why the truth about some of his federal appointments are coming out now- like the head of fema.

i have met many soldiers on leave from iraq, who have to return. i get many emails from them as well. most of the ones who i am have spoke with tell me about the stuff u do not see in the media, what a mess it really is, and how they disagree with it. but as they are doing a JOB-it is a job that they enlisted for and have to follow orders. though i am proud of the few who have refused to return on ethical beliefs.

i have always supported the troops but not the goverments or the war in iraq. i am saddened that so many people have to lose their lives for the failure of the american goverment in intelligence, the war on terror, and for mr. bush's will.

this hurricane was not predicatable and the truth is that nothing could ever be done fast enough when it comes to a response to such a disater- but the the failings here are in the hands of both the federal, state, and local goverments-but they are majorly in the hands of the president who cut fema funding, made it part of homeland security, and appointed people with no experience on such matters.

as far the rights that we have attained through the blood of the soldiers, dear friend, those are many of the rights that the right wing agenda is trying to strip away. i find it impossible to be involved in an alternative lifestyle, enjoy adult entertainment, support free speech, and support bush and the bush administration- that is hypocritical, at best.

[tsluver247]

bush's approval rating drops, femma head pads his resume. looks like he was over his head and could get things organized for this disater

I am glad that Brown is no longer managing the disaster, but he still heads FEMA, who was just handled over $50+ billion dollars of funding for the disaster. If he mismanaged the disaster, can he manage a $50+ billion dollar budget?

Personally, I do not like the $2,000 debit card idea. How can you verify that person was the person the card was initially given to? Too many unwanted variables that can happen. Direct deposit is a better idea, which they are doing now.

I thought this was an interesting story that raises some questions that will have to go in planning of dealing with disasters.

Some Companies Got Unneeded 9/11 Loans (http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050909/ap_on_bi_ge/sept_11_lax_loans_22)

[GroobySteven]

The rebuilding money has already been assigned to a Halliburton Co. subsidiary Kellogg Brown and Root as well as Shaw Group, which is a Whitehouse crony company.
How much more blatent can it get?
With $1.1 billion missing in Iraq spending why do the US people continue to allow the Whitehouse to steal their money...
Oh dear.
seanchai

[chefmike]

as far the rights that we have attained through the blood of the soldiers, dear friend, those are many of the rights that the right wing agenda is trying to strip away. i find it impossible to be involved in an alternative lifestyle, enjoy adult entertainment, support free speech, and support bush and the bush administration- that is hypocritical, at best.

But i am very weary about patriotism since its a very dangerous propaganda tool to use against people to get behind the govt when it wants to get away with something unjust. yes, Samuel Johnson may have said it best..."patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel"...the scoundrels in question being prez shrub et al... ...and lest you say that I haven't served my country...this is coming from a former sailor, who put his ass on the line for four years, on the flight deck of the USS Kitty Hawk aka "the shitty kitty"

[tsluver247]

The rebuilding money has already been assigned to a Halliburton Co. subsidiary Kellogg Brown and Root as well as Shaw Group, which is a Whitehouse crony company.
How much more blatent can it get?
With $1.1 billion missing in Iraq spending why do the US people continue to allow the Whitehouse to steal their money...
Oh dear.
seanchai

It seems like they like to be continually lied to. :lol:

[geekmeat]

bush's approval rating drops, femma head pads his resume. looks like he was over his head and could get things organized for this disater

I am glad that Brown is no longer managing the disaster, but he still heads FEMA, who was just handled over $50+ billion dollars of funding for the disaster. If he mismanaged the disaster, can he manage a $50+ billion dollar budget?

Personally, I do not like the $2,000 debit card idea. How can you verify that person was the person the card was initially given to? Too many unwanted variables that can happen. Direct deposit is a better idea, which they are doing now.

I thought this was an interesting story that raises some questions that will have to go in planning of dealing with disasters.

Some Companies Got Unneeded 9/11 Loans (http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20050909/ap_on_bi_ge/sept_11_lax_loans_22)

If you so angry at our government giving 2,000 dollars to each person displaced in Loisiana then I have a good one for you.
You all remember the Israeli pullout of Gaza that happened recently.
Oh sure you do it was the leading story for all the big 4 news outlets......FOX,ABC,NBC and CBS.
Well guess what WE DID!
We are paying every jewish family between 300,000-400,000 dollars each!
Thats right.
Remember all the crying and sobbing?
(I did feel bad for those people although I dont agree with what they are doing)
We all should be crying because the bill is like 2.2 billion dollars.......this is all verifiable like everything else I said.
Israel is a welfare state and WE supply whatever they need.....anyways.......
Before any of you start to complain....(I know the sight of a black person getting 2,000 dollars makes you angry) remember we are giving israelis,jews 300,000-400,000 dollars so there is a precident.

I just wish the middle class american had as much influence on the president as the neo-cons(jews) do............Why dont you help us Mr.President?