How many guys here would actually DATE a TS?

[RubyTS]

Don't get your hopes up boys im not in the market 4 a man :P
BUT I AM curious to see who here would consider being in a serious long term committed relationship with a TS! Post your pictures... maybe some girls on here ARE looking for someone. And fot those of you who would NOT date a TS, post your reasons!

[ted naves]

Of course I would. Love is Love.

[Lick UR Lovely]

As long as she wasn't into drugs and the chemistry was right, I would be game material.... :P

[slinky]

I would date a TS. I'm not sure dating has to be a "serious long term committed relationship", though.

[altarica]

I would for sure.A femme TS is going to be so much more of a woman than all the foul mouthed skanky GG bitches I see these days,fucked up on alcohol, drugs and the opinion that they can do whatever they want no matter what the consequences for others.Pic of me first.
Here's my dream girl who I would date with a view to a permanent relationship.
While initially attracted to her sexually,Jo has always seemed like she is very together,down to earth and a nice person which is what really counts.
In my book she is totally adorable.

[MrsKellyPierce]

As long as she wasn't into drugs and the chemistry was right, I would be game material.... :Pthat stereotype bothers me. Not to bust your balls babe, but not all of us do drugs etc.

Sorry just burns my biscuits some!

Still love ya.

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

I've gone to dinner, movies, bookstore etc. with a few........

does that count?

[MrsKellyPierce]

I've gone to dinner, movies, bookstore etc. with a few........

does that count?manwhore

[RubyTS]

I would date a TS. I'm not sure dating has to be a "serious long term committed relationship", though.

i couldnt fit all that into the title, but yeah. Lots of guys would "date" a ts. Im interested in seeing which guys would consider being more intimate. Meeting parents, family gatherrings, social events as a couple etc.. without fear or concern of introducing her as HIS woman

[MrsKellyPierce]

I would date a TS. I'm not sure dating has to be a "serious long term committed relationship", though.Unfortunately this is how most guys see it. Transsexuals are more or less mistresses or something to do till they find someone they want to actually settle down with. I've been lucky to find guys that actually want to date me, and I knock on wood hee hee every day for that!

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

I've gone to dinner, movies, bookstore etc. with a few........

does that count?manwhore

I'm gonna punch you underneath your right titty just hard enough that when you go on another flight you get that Toni Braxton accident where her implant popped while she sat in coach.........yes coach!!!

Nothing wrong with dating, just make sure the muhfucka you're dating isn't a crazy fuck!!!!!!!

[flabbybody]

I would date a TS. I'm not sure dating has to be a "serious long term committed relationship", though.

i couldnt fit all that into the title, but yeah. Lots of guys would "date" a ts. Im interested in seeing which guys would consider being more intimate. Meeting parents, family gatherrings, social events as a couple etc.. without fear or concern of introducing her as HIS woman

yea, met my share of moms, little brothers and sisters
As far as subjecting a girl to MY family? I would rather spare someone from that, especially if I liked her

[RubyTS]

lol. And thank u on behalf of the girls who you've saved from your parents. Only if i were dating u and u told me that, i'd probably assume it to be bull.

[Lick UR Lovely]

As long as she wasn't into drugs and the chemistry was right, I would be game material.... :Pthat stereotype bothers me. Not to bust your balls babe, but not all of us do drugs etc.

Sorry just burns my biscuits some!

Still love ya.


You have cute biscuits Kelly :D Prescription drugs are ok Kelly. I've seen a lot of my friends lose everything they had over the years while addicted to meth and coke. I didn't mean to point the subject at TG woman. I just don't date users because it leads to problems in a relationship....

[JamesHunt]

No. I'm like most guys on here, in it for the thrill factor. Nothing beats a dirty secret :wink: I'm quite happy to pay my 200 dollars and pay em to leave :lol:

[flabbybody]

lol. And thank u on behalf of the girls who you've saved from your parents. Only if i were dating u and u told me that, i'd probably assume it to be bull.


I can see how that sounds bull shitty
so you'd have dinner with my family and then tell me I was right

[YasminLee]

i'll put it out there...i'm looking for that special someone.

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

i'll put it out there...i'm looking for that special someone.

uh huh

[dc_guy_75]

I've dated several (many) tgirls; dinner, museums, movies, whatever. Several of the girls are on this forum.

Granted, most have been relatively "passable", and I can't think of one time that I've been nervous in public (usually, they seem more nervous than me).

While I haven't brought one home to meet the family, I've only done that with one gg.

[Solitary Brother]

Don't get your hopes up boys im not in the market 4 a man :P
BUT I AM curious to see who here would consider being in a serious long term committed relationship with a TS! Post your pictures... maybe some girls on here ARE looking for someone. And fot those of you who would NOT date a TS, post your reasons!

Ok
Very good question actually and love the avatar babe.
I wouldnt and here is why.
Its not realistic.
Why.
I kinda would want one that wasnt an escort and most of the good looking ones ARE or have been escorts.
Why dont I want to date an ESCORT or an ex-ESCORT?
Ill give you an analogy.
I love porn.
I really really love the women that make porn movies.
There amazing and beautiful ect.........
But the nature of my attraction to them is also what repulses me.
Explanation.
They fuck SO many guys and that for me is a turn off plus you have the disease factor which is also a turn off.
So.
Even though I love what they do and think some of them COULD POSSIBLY BE relationship material what they do is fulfill FANTASIES.
The fantasy world is not the real world.
Same thing with tranny.....even MORE so in some cases.
Why would I EVER be in a relationship with someone who has slept with TONS of people?
I just couldnt do it.......
Im not that desperate to date a tranny.
My self respect and pride would allow it.
I think there are WAY WAY WAAAAAAAAAAAY more GG's that would meet my requirements than trannies.
So even though some of your girls I just love to death I could NEVER have a relationship with or sleep with.

That just how I feel and that feeling WONT go away.
I could say more but dont want even MORE hate directed my way.

[saifan]

I would and I've tried. My game just isn't quite up to par yet.

[RubyTS]

lol. And thank u on behalf of the girls who you've saved from your parents. Only if i were dating u and u told me that, i'd probably assume it to be bull.


I can see how that sounds bull shitty
so you'd have dinner with my family and then tell me I was right

i would rather find out for myself then to feel like u were holding back because ur scared. I personally feel that any man who will date a TS but is scared of what people think isnt a man at all.

When i use the word man, im referring to state of mind and NOT gender. A MAN can hold his own and doesn't give a flying f$#@ what people think. A man is a leader and not a follower and follows his heart, and lives his life to his fullest potential and happiness. A man is content within himself and doesn't feel the need to have to explain himself to others because its HIS life and god damn it he is going to LIVE IT AND LOVE IT. Some boys become men, but most the time they'll never be more than just boys.

[hwbs]

i would be but every girl i meet wants to have an open relationship....that shit is stupid....oh baby i cant fit u in i am meeting x today , y tomorrow , and z for the weekend hahahaha.....i have 2 that i am seeing right now but they are in no way looking for a committed relationship so i just keep it that way...

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

Don't get your hopes up boys im not in the market 4 a man :P
BUT I AM curious to see who here would consider being in a serious long term committed relationship with a TS! Post your pictures... maybe some girls on here ARE looking for someone. And fot those of you who would NOT date a TS, post your reasons!

Ok
Very good question actually and love the avatar babe.
I wouldnt and her is why.
Its not realistic.
Why.
I kinda would want one that wasnt an escort and most of the good looking ones ARE or have been escorts.
Why dont I want to date an ESCORT or an ex-ESCORT?
Ill give you an analogy.
I love porn.
I really really love the women that make porn movies.
There amazing and beautiful ect.........
But the nature of my attraction to them is also what repulses me.
Explanation.
They fuck SO many guys and that for me is a turn off plus you the disease factor which is also a turn off.
So.
Even though I love what they do and think some of them COULD POSSIBLY BE relationship material what they do is fulfill FANTASIES.
The fantasy would is not the real world.
Same thing with tranny.....even MORE so in some cases.
Why would I EVER be in a relationship with someone who has slept with TONS of people?
I just couldnt do it.......
Im not that desperate to date a tranny.
My self respect and pride would allow it.
I think there are WAY WAY WAAAAAAAAAAAY more GG's that would meet my requirements than trannies.
So even though some of your girls I just love to death I could NEVER have a relationship with or sleep with.

That just how I feel and that feeling WONT go away.
I could say more but dont want even MORE hate directed my way.

You fuckin closeted faggot. You've never dated a TS yet you sit on HA day & and day out and spew out crap like that?!?
I'm repulsed.......................seriously.

No every TS out there does not have a disease
No every TS out there is not a nasty whore who fucks tons of guys
and No not every TS out there would meet your requirements, but then again not every TS out there wants a pathetic NEVER WAS walking down the street with them thinking he's a man when he's really a bitch.


I don't know who made you pick up the soap in prison dude but your mindset as far as this site is warped.

I see alot of the girls who dudes like Slinky & Klikk post pics of at parties or other places around the city and for the most part they are very nice. I'm pretty sure the same can be said for TS' elsewhere in the world, the ones I met in Amsterdam were cool also. It's sick fucks like this who spit out crap based on a fucked up perception they have giving chicks in the scene a bad image, and making some semi-homophobic confused individual go out there and abuse a TS mentally and/or physically because they too are warped in the mind........

I'd say I've had enough SB, but you'll never stop so as long as you keep typing dumb shit you'll be my personal bitch and I'll treat you like the tampon you are by trashing everything I see that you type.

JWBL

[Solitary Brother]

Don't get your hopes up boys im not in the market 4 a man :P
BUT I AM curious to see who here would consider being in a serious long term committed relationship with a TS! Post your pictures... maybe some girls on here ARE looking for someone. And fot those of you who would NOT date a TS, post your reasons!

Ok
Very good question actually and love the avatar babe.
I wouldnt and her is why.
Its not realistic.
Why.
I kinda would want one that wasnt an escort and most of the good looking ones ARE or have been escorts.
Why dont I want to date an ESCORT or an ex-ESCORT?
Ill give you an analogy.
I love porn.
I really really love the women that make porn movies.
There amazing and beautiful ect.........
But the nature of my attraction to them is also what repulses me.
Explanation.
They fuck SO many guys and that for me is a turn off plus you the disease factor which is also a turn off.
So.
Even though I love what they do and think some of them COULD POSSIBLY BE relationship material what they do is fulfill FANTASIES.
The fantasy would is not the real world.
Same thing with tranny.....even MORE so in some cases.
Why would I EVER be in a relationship with someone who has slept with TONS of people?
I just couldnt do it.......
Im not that desperate to date a tranny.
My self respect and pride would allow it.
I think there are WAY WAY WAAAAAAAAAAAY more GG's that would meet my requirements than trannies.
So even though some of your girls I just love to death I could NEVER have a relationship with or sleep with.

That just how I feel and that feeling WONT go away.
I could say more but dont want even MORE hate directed my way.

You fuckin closeted faggot. You've never dated a TS yet you sit on HA day & and day out and spew out crap like that?!?
I'm repulsed.......................seriously.

No every TS out there does not have a disease
No every TS out there is not a nasty whore who fucks tons of guys
and No not every TS out there would meet your requirements, but then again not every TS out there wants a pathetic NEVER WAS walking down the street with them thinking he's a man when he's really a bitch.


I don't know who made you pick up the soap in prison dude but your mindset as far as this site is warped.

I see alot of the girls who dudes like Slinky & Klikk post pics of at parties or other places around the city and for the most part they are very nice. I'm pretty sure the same can be said for TS' elsewhere in the world, the ones I met in Amsterdam were cool also. It's sick fucks like this who spit out crap based on a fucked up perception they have giving chicks in the scene a bad image, and making some semi-homophobic confused individual go out there and abuse a TS mentally and/or physically because they too are warped in the mind........

I'd say I've had enough SB, but you'll never stop so as long as you keep typing dumb shit you'll be my personal bitch and I'll treat you like the tampon you are by trashing everything I see that you type.

JWBL

Ha ha
Thank you may I have another?
But seriously.
Its just my opinion.
Just like what you write is yours.
No worries.
Have a good evening.

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

thanks, you too

:)

[flabbybody]

nice JW
now that's what Ruby's talking about

[RubyTS]

i created this threat mainly because i wanted to prove a point to myself and to others. Its funny because u say tranny and relationship in the same sentence and all u hear back is ecorting, drugs and/or disease.

You hear people saying that all the hot trannies are escorts, yet you're all looking on escort sites for the girls. YOut think there arent any hot trannies who dont escort, well honey there! Their just living their lives and you guys are so wrapped in your porn world u cant find them because YOURE NOT LOOKING! And honestly the ones that ARE escorting and doein porn are only doing so because they dont wanna be 50 yrs old saving their pennies for their SRS or FFS! We are hot BECAUSE we escort!

And as far as us girls go, the ones who want relationships at least. Dont we always want the guy who DOESNT wanna be with us? We wanna take a boy and we want too be his reason for becoming a man. And lets face it, most the guys who actually want a relationship with a tranny only fool themselves into feeling that way because they are so physically attracted to us. And im sorry the ones who just wanna pump n dump are always so much hotter than the ones who wanna put a ring on our finger.

[RubyTS]

excuse the repost

[blckhaze]

done it before. wouldnt mind doing it in the future.


But i need someone as crazy as me. No more, no less

[El Nino]

I absolutely would and hope to someday for sure... if I am lucky enough. we'll see. It would be very very nice!

[Solitary Brother]

i created this threat mainly because i wanted to prove a point to myself and to others. Its funny because u say tranny and relationship in the same sentence and all u hear back is ecorting, drugs and/or disease.

You hear people saying that all the hot trannies are escorts, yet you're all looking on escort sites for the girls. YOut think there arent any hot trannies who dont escort, well honey there! Their just living their lives and you guys are so wrapped in your porn world u cant find them because YOURE NOT LOOKING! And honestly the ones that ARE escorting and doein porn are only doing so because they dont wanna be 50 yrs old saving their pennies for their SRS or FFS! We are hot BECAUSE we escort!

And as far as us girls go, the ones who want relationships at least. Dont we always want the guy who DOESNT wanna be with us? We wanna take a boy and we want too be his reason for becoming a man. And lets face it, most the guys who actually want a relationship with a tranny only fool themselves into feeling that way because they are so physically attracted to us. And im sorry the ones who just wanna pump n dump are always so much hotter than the ones who wanna put a ring on our finger.

Sound like you have it all sorted out already.
Like i have said before....many trannies are unrealistic about MANY things.
But I understand....how you feel is how you feel and that probably wont change.

[slinky]

i would be but every girl i meet wants to have an open relationship....that shit is stupid....oh baby i cant fit u in i am meeting x today , y tomorrow , and z for the weekend hahahaha.....i have 2 that i am seeing right now but they are in no way looking for a committed relationship so i just keep it that way...

Well, if the girl is an escort, that's just the way it's got to be. It takes a special kind of guy to be able to date an escort - whether TS or GG. I can only imagine it's just that much more difficult if she's TS. (and yes, I realize the original post wasn't about escorting).

[RubyTS]

i created this threat mainly because i wanted to prove a point to myself and to others. Its funny because u say tranny and relationship in the same sentence and all u hear back is ecorting, drugs and/or disease.

You hear people saying that all the hot trannies are escorts, yet you're all looking on escort sites for the girls. YOut think there arent any hot trannies who dont escort, well honey there! Their just living their lives and you guys are so wrapped in your porn world u cant find them because YOURE NOT LOOKING! And honestly the ones that ARE escorting and doein porn are only doing so because they dont wanna be 50 yrs old saving their pennies for their SRS or FFS! We are hot BECAUSE we escort!

And as far as us girls go, the ones who want relationships at least. Dont we always want the guy who DOESNT wanna be with us? We wanna take a boy and we want too be his reason for becoming a man. And lets face it, most the guys who actually want a relationship with a tranny only fool themselves into feeling that way because they are so physically attracted to us. And im sorry the ones who just wanna pump n dump are always so much hotter than the ones who wanna put a ring on our finger.

Sound like you have it all sorted out already.
Like i have said before....many trannies are unrealistic about MANY things.
But I understand....how you feel is how you feel and that probably wont change.

it would be different if the guy who wanted to be serious with me was young hot n hung. Its just the only dudes who seriously wanna date a ts are clients, former clients, guys who look like clients, and self conscious wierdos who just dont wanna be alone. Im sorry but i like urban dudes. Blk, hispanic young tall n slim. Im hot.. should i really settle for a guy who's missing that very important quality that keeps me interested?

[keepingitreal470]

i created this threat mainly because i wanted to prove a point to myself and to others. Its funny because u say tranny and relationship in the same sentence and all u hear back is ecorting, drugs and/or disease.

You hear people saying that all the hot trannies are escorts, yet you're all looking on escort sites for the girls. YOut think there arent any hot trannies who dont escort, well honey there! Their just living their lives and you guys are so wrapped in your porn world u cant find them because YOURE NOT LOOKING! And honestly the ones that ARE escorting and doein porn are only doing so because they dont wanna be 50 yrs old saving their pennies for their SRS or FFS! We are hot BECAUSE we escort!

And as far as us girls go, the ones who want relationships at least. Dont we always want the guy who DOESNT wanna be with us? We wanna take a boy and we want too be his reason for becoming a man. And lets face it, most the guys who actually want a relationship with a tranny only fool themselves into feeling that way because they are so physically attracted to us. And im sorry the ones who just wanna pump n dump are always so much hotter than the ones who wanna put a ring on our finger. Looks like you just answered your own question. You and most tgirls think the same way. And then when the so called hott guy treats them like shit, they come here crying and asking us why they cant find true love. And they do it over and over and over. I'm glad I personally have an age requirement when dealing with tgirls. Nothing under 27. I find thats the age where they usually become a little realistic and drop the Beverly Hills 90210 shit. Then we can have a decent conversation.

[YasminLee]

thank you johnny..that almost made me cry when he said that but i know better...and well said ruby

[hwbs]

i have a couple friends that are in a committed relationship but its more like the exception than the rule

[RubyTS]

i created this threat mainly because i wanted to prove a point to myself and to others. Its funny because u say tranny and relationship in the same sentence and all u hear back is ecorting, drugs and/or disease.

You hear people saying that all the hot trannies are escorts, yet you're all looking on escort sites for the girls. YOut think there arent any hot trannies who dont escort, well honey there! Their just living their lives and you guys are so wrapped in your porn world u cant find them because YOURE NOT LOOKING! And honestly the ones that ARE escorting and doein porn are only doing so because they dont wanna be 50 yrs old saving their pennies for their SRS or FFS! We are hot BECAUSE we escort!

And as far as us girls go, the ones who want relationships at least. Dont we always want the guy who DOESNT wanna be with us? We wanna take a boy and we want too be his reason for becoming a man. And lets face it, most the guys who actually want a relationship with a tranny only fool themselves into feeling that way because they are so physically attracted to us. And im sorry the ones who just wanna pump n dump are always so much hotter than the ones who wanna put a ring on our finger. Looks like you just answered your own question. You and most tgirls think the same way. And then when the so called hott guy treats them like shit, they come here crying and asking us why they cant find true love. And they do it over and over and over. I'm glad I personally have an age requirement when dealing with tgirls. Nothing under 27. I find thats the age where they usually become a little realistic and drop the Beverly Hills 90210 shit. Then we can have a decent conversation.

i think u misunderstood me honey. what i mean is that the guys who are only interesting in playing are the types of guys PHYSICALLY that we are usually attracted to. They are usually younger, cuter etc...

The guys who actually want a relationship usually arent very attractive, and im sorry to put it that way but its the truth.

if 90210 is wanting a guy that i can be emotionally, psychologically as well as physically connected to, then i guess... hi im brenda, nice to meet u

[RubyTS]

thank you johnny..that almost made me cry when he said that but i know better...and well said ruby

thank u gorgeous

[Solitary Brother]

i created this threat mainly because i wanted to prove a point to myself and to others. Its funny because u say tranny and relationship in the same sentence and all u hear back is ecorting, drugs and/or disease.

You hear people saying that all the hot trannies are escorts, yet you're all looking on escort sites for the girls. YOut think there arent any hot trannies who dont escort, well honey there! Their just living their lives and you guys are so wrapped in your porn world u cant find them because YOURE NOT LOOKING! And honestly the ones that ARE escorting and doein porn are only doing so because they dont wanna be 50 yrs old saving their pennies for their SRS or FFS! We are hot BECAUSE we escort!

And as far as us girls go, the ones who want relationships at least. Dont we always want the guy who DOESNT wanna be with us? We wanna take a boy and we want too be his reason for becoming a man. And lets face it, most the guys who actually want a relationship with a tranny only fool themselves into feeling that way because they are so physically attracted to us. And im sorry the ones who just wanna pump n dump are always so much hotter than the ones who wanna put a ring on our finger.

Sound like you have it all sorted out already.
Like i have said before....many trannies are unrealistic about MANY things.
But I understand....how you feel is how you feel and that probably wont change.

it would be different if the guy who wanted to be serious with me was young hot n hung. Its just the only dudes who seriously wanna date a ts are clients, former clients, guys who look like clients, and self conscious wierdos who just dont wanna be alone. Im sorry but i like urban dudes. Blk, hispanic young tall n slim. Im hot.. should i really settle for a guy who's missing that very important quality that keeps me interested?


So now that you got it all sorted out there is no more reason to complain.
It is what it is.

[Solitary Brother]

i created this threat mainly because i wanted to prove a point to myself and to others. Its funny because u say tranny and relationship in the same sentence and all u hear back is ecorting, drugs and/or disease.

You hear people saying that all the hot trannies are escorts, yet you're all looking on escort sites for the girls. YOut think there arent any hot trannies who dont escort, well honey there! Their just living their lives and you guys are so wrapped in your porn world u cant find them because YOURE NOT LOOKING! And honestly the ones that ARE escorting and doein porn are only doing so because they dont wanna be 50 yrs old saving their pennies for their SRS or FFS! We are hot BECAUSE we escort!

And as far as us girls go, the ones who want relationships at least. Dont we always want the guy who DOESNT wanna be with us? We wanna take a boy and we want too be his reason for becoming a man. And lets face it, most the guys who actually want a relationship with a tranny only fool themselves into feeling that way because they are so physically attracted to us. And im sorry the ones who just wanna pump n dump are always so much hotter than the ones who wanna put a ring on our finger. Looks like you just answered your own question. You and most tgirls think the same way. And then when the so called hott guy treats them like shit, they come here crying and asking us why they cant find true love. And they do it over and over and over. I'm glad I personally have an age requirement when dealing with tgirls. Nothing under 27. I find thats the age where they usually become a little realistic and drop the Beverly Hills 90210 shit. Then we can have a decent conversation.

i think u misunderstood me honey. what i mean is that the guys who are only interesting in playing are the types of guys PHYSICALLY that we are usually attracted to. They are usually younger, cuter etc...

The guys who actually want a relationship usually arent very attractive, and im sorry to put it that way but its the truth.

if 90210 is wanting a guy that i can be emotionally, psychologically as well as physically connected to, then i guess... hi im brenda, nice to meet u

The thing with me is this:
If your not bringing some of the same qualities you ask for in your mate your unrealistic.
How can some fat ugly chic think she has a chance with me.
Likewise I know i have no chance with Naomi Campbell.
Ruby
Your young.
Live a little longer and your attitude will change trust me.

[thatguywv]

I see that most of the people on this forum hail from areas with more liberal and/or modern views on alternative relationships. I unfortunately live in one of those closed minded, ultra conservative, racist, bible -thumping cultures. I doubt I have the balls to subject my self to the violence and prejudice of the community. Maybe somewhere else I could have a ltr with a special gurl, but not here.
For an example search "Torture in logan county, wv", and you can see the hate.

[keepingitreal470]

i created this threat mainly because i wanted to prove a point to myself and to others. Its funny because u say tranny and relationship in the same sentence and all u hear back is ecorting, drugs and/or disease.

You hear people saying that all the hot trannies are escorts, yet you're all looking on escort sites for the girls. YOut think there arent any hot trannies who dont escort, well honey there! Their just living their lives and you guys are so wrapped in your porn world u cant find them because YOURE NOT LOOKING! And honestly the ones that ARE escorting and doein porn are only doing so because they dont wanna be 50 yrs old saving their pennies for their SRS or FFS! We are hot BECAUSE we escort!

And as far as us girls go, the ones who want relationships at least. Dont we always want the guy who DOESNT wanna be with us? We wanna take a boy and we want too be his reason for becoming a man. And lets face it, most the guys who actually want a relationship with a tranny only fool themselves into feeling that way because they are so physically attracted to us. And im sorry the ones who just wanna pump n dump are always so much hotter than the ones who wanna put a ring on our finger. Looks like you just answered your own question. You and most tgirls think the same way. And then when the so called hott guy treats them like shit, they come here crying and asking us why they cant find true love. And they do it over and over and over. I'm glad I personally have an age requirement when dealing with tgirls. Nothing under 27. I find thats the age where they usually become a little realistic and drop the Beverly Hills 90210 shit. Then we can have a decent conversation.

i think u misunderstood me honey. what i mean is that the guys who are only interesting in playing are the types of guys PHYSICALLY that we are usually attracted to. They are usually younger, cuter etc...

The guys who actually want a relationship usually arent very attractive, and im sorry to put it that way but its the truth.

if 90210 is wanting a guy that i can be mentally, psychologically as well as physically connected to, then i guess... hi im brenda, nice to meet uWhere do u see me misunderstanding what u said. I understand perfectly. Been in this game for years. U wanna marry the young cute BOYS with the hopes that they become men. Good luck with that one. lol. Pretty much a dead end street but the UNREALISTIC girls just refuse to see that. Its normal to wanna play around when ur young. But dont come here saying that ur looking for love when u know the boys u play with aint gonna give it to u. Just keep having fun with them. This isnt directed towards u per say, but girls that think like u. And if u feel like older men are unattractive, oh well. Most of them are married, so someone thinks they're attactive. You're attactive, but very unrealistic. Maybe 5 more years will do it.

[Legend]

Don't get your hopes up boys im not in the market 4 a man :P
BUT I AM curious to see who here would consider being in a serious long term committed relationship with a TS! Post your pictures... maybe some girls on here ARE looking for someone. And fot those of you who would NOT date a TS, post your reasons!

Ok
Very good question actually and love the avatar babe.
I wouldnt and her is why.
Its not realistic.
Why.
I kinda would want one that wasnt an escort and most of the good looking ones ARE or have been escorts.
Why dont I want to date an ESCORT or an ex-ESCORT?
Ill give you an analogy.
I love porn.
I really really love the women that make porn movies.
There amazing and beautiful ect.........
But the nature of my attraction to them is also what repulses me.
Explanation.
They fuck SO many guys and that for me is a turn off plus you the disease factor which is also a turn off.
So.
Even though I love what they do and think some of them COULD POSSIBLY BE relationship material what they do is fulfill FANTASIES.
The fantasy would is not the real world.
Same thing with tranny.....even MORE so in some cases.
Why would I EVER be in a relationship with someone who has slept with TONS of people?
I just couldnt do it.......
Im not that desperate to date a tranny.
My self respect and pride would allow it.
I think there are WAY WAY WAAAAAAAAAAAY more GG's that would meet my requirements than trannies.
So even though some of your girls I just love to death I could NEVER have a relationship with or sleep with.

That just how I feel and that feeling WONT go away.
I could say more but dont want even MORE hate directed my way.

You fuckin closeted faggot. You've never dated a TS yet you sit on HA day & and day out and spew out crap like that?!?
I'm repulsed.......................seriously.

No every TS out there does not have a disease
No every TS out there is not a nasty whore who fucks tons of guys
and No not every TS out there would meet your requirements, but then again not every TS out there wants a pathetic NEVER WAS walking down the street with them thinking he's a man when he's really a bitch.


I don't know who made you pick up the soap in prison dude but your mindset as far as this site is warped.

I see alot of the girls who dudes like Slinky & Klikk post pics of at parties or other places around the city and for the most part they are very nice. I'm pretty sure the same can be said for TS' elsewhere in the world, the ones I met in Amsterdam were cool also. It's sick fucks like this who spit out crap based on a fucked up perception they have giving chicks in the scene a bad image, and making some semi-homophobic confused individual go out there and abuse a TS mentally and/or physically because they too are warped in the mind........

I'd say I've had enough SB, but you'll never stop so as long as you keep typing dumb shit you'll be my personal bitch and I'll treat you like the tampon you are by trashing everything I see that you type.

JWBL


lol,HA's resident closet case just got owned.

[RubyTS]

i created this threat mainly because i wanted to prove a point to myself and to others. Its funny because u say tranny and relationship in the same sentence and all u hear back is ecorting, drugs and/or disease.

You hear people saying that all the hot trannies are escorts, yet you're all looking on escort sites for the girls. YOut think there arent any hot trannies who dont escort, well honey there! Their just living their lives and you guys are so wrapped in your porn world u cant find them because YOURE NOT LOOKING! And honestly the ones that ARE escorting and doein porn are only doing so because they dont wanna be 50 yrs old saving their pennies for their SRS or FFS! We are hot BECAUSE we escort!

And as far as us girls go, the ones who want relationships at least. Dont we always want the guy who DOESNT wanna be with us? We wanna take a boy and we want too be his reason for becoming a man. And lets face it, most the guys who actually want a relationship with a tranny only fool themselves into feeling that way because they are so physically attracted to us. And im sorry the ones who just wanna pump n dump are always so much hotter than the ones who wanna put a ring on our finger. Looks like you just answered your own question. You and most tgirls think the same way. And then when the so called hott guy treats them like shit, they come here crying and asking us why they cant find true love. And they do it over and over and over. I'm glad I personally have an age requirement when dealing with tgirls. Nothing under 27. I find thats the age where they usually become a little realistic and drop the Beverly Hills 90210 shit. Then we can have a decent conversation.

i think u misunderstood me honey. what i mean is that the guys who are only interesting in playing are the types of guys PHYSICALLY that we are usually attracted to. They are usually younger, cuter etc...

The guys who actually want a relationship usually arent very attractive, and im sorry to put it that way but its the truth.

if 90210 is wanting a guy that i can be emotionally, psychologically as well as physically connected to, then i guess... hi im brenda, nice to meet u

The thing with me is this:
If your not bringing some of the same qualities you ask for in your mate your unrealistic.
How can some fat ugly chic think she has a chance with me.
Likewise I know i have no chance with Naomi Campbell.
Ruby
Your young.
Live a little longer and your attitude will change trust me.

so ur saying im a 7 looking for a 10
what im saying is im a 9 (lets be real im not a 10 yet) looking for a 9 or an 8

but i hardly think me being an escort in any way shape or form lowers my rank. There are worse whores out there than me who are male and do it for free! So if ur telling me to settle im telling u ur bugging! Whats unrealistic about me wanting to be happy in a relationship? the fact that im a tranny? Shyt sucks. I would rather be promiscuous with the hot guys and get my temporary fix than to be in a dreaded and depressing relationship with someone who i will only grow more and more tired of. In the end im only gonna hurt us both

[Legend]

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[keepingitreal470]

i created this threat mainly because i wanted to prove a point to myself and to others. Its funny because u say tranny and relationship in the same sentence and all u hear back is ecorting, drugs and/or disease.

You hear people saying that all the hot trannies are escorts, yet you're all looking on escort sites for the girls. YOut think there arent any hot trannies who dont escort, well honey there! Their just living their lives and you guys are so wrapped in your porn world u cant find them because YOURE NOT LOOKING! And honestly the ones that ARE escorting and doein porn are only doing so because they dont wanna be 50 yrs old saving their pennies for their SRS or FFS! We are hot BECAUSE we escort!

And as far as us girls go, the ones who want relationships at least. Dont we always want the guy who DOESNT wanna be with us? We wanna take a boy and we want too be his reason for becoming a man. And lets face it, most the guys who actually want a relationship with a tranny only fool themselves into feeling that way because they are so physically attracted to us. And im sorry the ones who just wanna pump n dump are always so much hotter than the ones who wanna put a ring on our finger. Looks like you just answered your own question. You and most tgirls think the same way. And then when the so called hott guy treats them like shit, they come here crying and asking us why they cant find true love. And they do it over and over and over. I'm glad I personally have an age requirement when dealing with tgirls. Nothing under 27. I find thats the age where they usually become a little realistic and drop the Beverly Hills 90210 shit. Then we can have a decent conversation.

i think u misunderstood me honey. what i mean is that the guys who are only interesting in playing are the types of guys PHYSICALLY that we are usually attracted to. They are usually younger, cuter etc...

The guys who actually want a relationship usually arent very attractive, and im sorry to put it that way but its the truth.

if 90210 is wanting a guy that i can be emotionally, psychologically as well as physically connected to, then i guess... hi im brenda, nice to meet u

The thing with me is this:
If your not bringing some of the same qualities you ask for in your mate your unrealistic.
How can some fat ugly chic think she has a chance with me.
Likewise I know i have no chance with Naomi Campbell.
Ruby
Your young.
Live a little longer and your attitude will change trust me.

so ur saying im a 7 looking for a 10
what im saying is im a 9 (lets be real im not a 10 yet) looking for a 9 or an 8

but i hardly think me being an escort in any way shape or form lowers my rank. There are worse whores out there than me who are male and do it for free! So if ur telling me to settle im telling u ur bugging! Whats unrealistic about me wanting to be happy in a relationship? the fact that im a tranny? Shyt sucks. I would rather be promiscuous with the hot guys and get my temporary fix than to be in a dreaded and depressing relationship with someone who i will only grow more and more tired of. In the end im only gonna hurt us bothAgain, you've solved ur own dilema. Continue with that way of life. Please. Spare us so called old and ugly men the headache of girls like u. Like I said, me, I wont talk to any tgirl under 27 and prefer them to be closer to 30. Our attractions are a little more advanced than yours. We actually like whats in the head and heart also. So please continue to play with the BOYS.

[ocguy]

I would totally love to date a TS. I just have yet to find any that are open to having any sort of relationship, other than friendship.

[JerseyMike]

Interesting topic since I would say that I have dated 3 ts so far in the course of my life and I'm only 24 right now. One was 20 and it was more of a friendship that I wanted to be more than a friendship and we did dating type things, nice dinners, go the movies, got dragged around the mall shopping and such. It was fun but whenever I mentioned us having a relationship or her meeting my friends she never wanted anything to deal with it. Another girl was my age and she actually did end up meeting my mom. Although it was in the morning and they met in the hall way so probably not the best time to introduce a girl to your mother. But I have no problem introducing a ts that I'm in a relationship with to my friends and family.

[slinky]

but i hardly think me being an escort in any way shape or form lowers my rank. There are worse whores out there than me who are male and do it for free! So if ur telling me to settle im telling u ur bugging! Whats unrealistic about me wanting to be happy in a relationship? the fact that im a tranny? Shyt sucks. I would rather be promiscuous with the hot guys and get my temporary fix than to be in a dreaded and depressing relationship with someone who i will only grow more and more tired of. In the end im only gonna hurt us both

I'm wondering what the point of this thread was when you started it? What were you looking to get out of it?

[andyuk]

one of my friends,who is ts.
moved in with me for 3 months while she was over here.we have a very good friendship,in fact she is like family to me and she is one of the most special people i have ever met.
but anyways,we where open about things with my family and stuff,sadly to say i have now lost contact with most of them,due to there bigoted attitude.mind it"s not that sadly looking back as most of them are a bunch of assholes :D

[RubyTS]

U wanna marry the young cute BOYS with the hopes that they become men. Whoa jumping the gun just a little.
dont come here saying that ur looking for love when u know the boys u play with aint gonna give it to u. I never said i was looking for love, actually if u read right darling it says im not in the market.


And if u feel like older men are unattractive, oh well. Most of them are married, so someone thinks they're attactive. I never said i thought older men are unatttractive honey. I like older men also, however i prefer someone a little closer to my age.


You're attactivethank you

but very unrealistic. i dont think that uiits unrealistic for a anyone to have to suffer in a relationship in which they are not happy.

[DS-Kika]

I would, but I'm too shy to ask...

[RubyTS]

Again, you've solved ur own dilema. Continue with that way of life. Please. Spare us so called old and ugly men the headache of girls like u. Like I said, me, I wont talk to any tgirl under 27 and prefer them to be closer to 30. Our attractions are a little more advanced than yours. We actually like whats in the head and heart also. So please continue to play with the BOYS.

u sound like a very bitter person.

[RubyTS]

but i hardly think me being an escort in any way shape or form lowers my rank. There are worse whores out there than me who are male and do it for free! So if ur telling me to settle im telling u ur bugging! Whats unrealistic about me wanting to be happy in a relationship? the fact that im a tranny? Shyt sucks. I would rather be promiscuous with the hot guys and get my temporary fix than to be in a dreaded and depressing relationship with someone who i will only grow more and more tired of. In the end im only gonna hurt us both

I'm wondering what the point of this thread was when you started it? What were you looking to get out of it?

lol nothing in partiicular. just a healthy debate i guess.

[keepingitreal470]

Again, you've solved ur own dilema. Continue with that way of life. Please. Spare us so called old and ugly men the headache of girls like u. Like I said, me, I wont talk to any tgirl under 27 and prefer them to be closer to 30. Our attractions are a little more advanced than yours. We actually like whats in the head and heart also. So please continue to play with the BOYS.

u sound like a very bitter person.No bitterness here. I just know how the young and less mature girls think. I keep it real. And if real to u is bitter, oh well. But if ur looking for sugar coating, u wont find it here. Sorry.

[DS-Kika]

ya, as I said, I'm very shy. I get way too nervous just thinking about it....Its sad, I know, but its who I am!

[RubyTS]

Again, you've solved ur own dilema. Continue with that way of life. Please. Spare us so called old and ugly men the headache of girls like u. Like I said, me, I wont talk to any tgirl under 27 and prefer them to be closer to 30. Our attractions are a little more advanced than yours. We actually like whats in the head and heart also. So please continue to play with the BOYS.

u sound like a very bitter person.No bitterness here. I just know how the young and less mature girls think. I keep it real. And if real to u is bitter, oh well. But if ur looking for sugar coating, u wont find it here. Sorry.

i dont understand how my idea of being in a committed relationship with someone, like i said before, where you connect on physical, emotional, psychological and a spritual level, makes me less mature. please explain this to me... im all ears

[keepingitreal470]

Again, you've solved ur own dilema. Continue with that way of life. Please. Spare us so called old and ugly men the headache of girls like u. Like I said, me, I wont talk to any tgirl under 27 and prefer them to be closer to 30. Our attractions are a little more advanced than yours. We actually like whats in the head and heart also. So please continue to play with the BOYS.

u sound like a very bitter person.No bitterness here. I just know how the young and less mature girls think. I keep it real. And if real to u is bitter, oh well. But if ur looking for sugar coating, u wont find it here. Sorry.

i dont understand how my idea of being in a committed relationship with someone, like i said before, where you connect on physical, emotional, psychological and a spritual level, makes me less mature. please explain this to me... im all earsThe lack of maturity is the fact that u want to connect with someone on all these levels, and you also want them to look a certain way and be at a certain age. Expecting to find young guys that connect like that is like looking for a needle in a haystack. Thats in a perfect world and this isnt a perfect world. Go find ur so called hott guy, just dont expect to connect on all those levels. When I was younger a lot of people told me I was too idealistic. i wanted the ideal situation as far as relationships go. It sounds like thats where ur at. But u might want to consider being a little more open and flexible in terms of what u want. I'm not saying settle for anyone, just be open a little more. Thats all.

[JamesHunt]

You're on a roll 2nite Ruby. My advice. Lay off've the pot :lol:

[Solitary Brother]

Again, you've solved ur own dilema. Continue with that way of life. Please. Spare us so called old and ugly men the headache of girls like u. Like I said, me, I wont talk to any tgirl under 27 and prefer them to be closer to 30. Our attractions are a little more advanced than yours. We actually like whats in the head and heart also. So please continue to play with the BOYS.

u sound like a very bitter person.No bitterness here. I just know how the young and less mature girls think. I keep it real. And if real to u is bitter, oh well. But if ur looking for sugar coating, u wont find it here. Sorry.

i dont understand how my idea of being in a committed relationship with someone, like i said before, where you connect on physical, emotional, psychological and a spritual level, makes me less mature. please explain this to me... im all ears

The problem is the guys you like only want to use you.
Your not the only one with this problem.
Now you might not think its a problem but really it is.
Its all about self respect.
If you gonna let some street trash use you and then lose you then thats your business.
I just think self respect is so important in relationships but a lot of people dont.

[JamesHunt]

Fuck me. After reading all this thread, I'm gonna have to reach 4 my weeping bucket. Make that a dustbin (trash can), A bucket isn't big enough to hold my tears :lol:

[RubyTS]

lmao i dont smoke weed baby. never liked it. i just enjoy debates.

And keepingitreal: im actually seeing someone now who treats me like a queen. i adore him very much and he was a client of mine at one point. I am open to new things which is why i decided to pursue a relationship with him. It's very new to me but i have been trying very hard to make it work.

[keepingitreal470]

lmao i dont smoke weed baby. never liked it. i just enjoy debates.

And keepingitreal: im actually seeing someone now who treats me like a queen. i adore him very much and he was a client of mine at one point. I am open to new things which is why i decided to pursue a relationship with him. It's very new to me but i have been trying very hard to make it work.And as I said in an earlier post, my comments werent directed at u, but at girls that think like u. Pass the info along to them. It might help them.

[the_corner]

From the title... How many guys here would actually DATE a TS?...

Short answer... I would... I have in the past and would do it again, if I found the right person at the right moment.

[RubyTS]

The problem is the guys you like only want to use you.
Your not the only one with this problem.
Now you might not think its a problem but really it is.
Its all about self respect.
If you gonna let some street trash use you and then lose you then thats your business.
I just think self respect is so important in relationships but a lot of people dont.

no i know girls who fall for trash and i stay farrrr from them, but i know what ur talking about! im attracted to men with a youthful appeal, and a certain swagger. Confident but not cocky. Someone intelligent, well spoken with goals who enjoys their independance, but would enjoy spending their spare time with me :) I don't like hoodlums at all. I like intellectuals. I dont want a guy who is flawless, or buff or rich or with a nice car or lots of money. I dont care about that, anything i want i could get myself. I dont think my idea is unrealistic at all. I would just like for a guy under 250 lbs, or not balding, or under 40 at least to be interested in the possibility of a long term relationship. I could even setttle for 35 yrs old lol as long as he has a full head of hair and a lil tone in his stomach

[speck]

The problem is the guys you like only want to use you.
Your not the only one with this problem.
Now you might not think its a problem but really it is.
Its all about self respect.
If you gonna let some street trash use you and then lose you then thats your business.
I just think self respect is so important in relationships but a lot of people dont.

no i know girls who fall for trash and i stay farrrr from them, but i know what ur talking about! im attracted to men with a youthful appeal, and a certain swagger. Confident but not cocky. Someone intelligent, well spoken with goals who enjoys their independance, but would enjoy spending their spare time with me :) I don't like hoodlums at all. I like intellectuals. I dont want a guy who is flawless, or buff or rich or with a nice car or lots of money. I dont care about that, anything i want i could get myself. I dont think my idea is unrealistic at all. I would just like for a guy under 250 lbs, or not balding, or under 40 at least to be interested in the possibility of a long term relationship. I could even setttle for 35 yrs old lol as long as he has a full head of hair and a lil tone in his stomach

Here is the problem...and this comes from a single unattached guy under 250lbs, 35 years old(and I look younger) with a full head of hair, and makes enough money to drive a gorgeous car and soon to own a house in a very expensive market(Los Angeles).....I don't get all those things without working my ass off. And in my situation(and in the situation of nearly every guy like me I suspect), there are career factors and social factors I have to be concious of.

I really would date and have a relationship with a transsexual...and even consider living together, long term commitment, marriage, etc...if the circumstances are right. But really, thats the same with GG also.

The things that really have to be present are that the person has to really present herself as a woman....in all aspects of life. My job and future earnings depend on this. If I were gay, thats not a stigma at all careerwise. But that I'm dating a "dude"(as the rumors would go), thats a real problem. Literally something that could keep me from promotions or choice jobs. Not to mention having to deal with rumors following me where ever I work. And then dealing with my friends isn't so much of an issue, but dealing with my family is. My parents are approaching 70 and its not fun or easy or anything I ever would want to deal with. I simply will never ever attempt to explain to my parents about people who are born with the wrong genetic parts. It's just not gonna happen.

[Gmanfromthechi]

If I could meet a sweet, sane, pretty girl who would be exclusive and open to a serious, full trusting relationship, I would be a very very happy man. These girls are hard to find tho, GG or TG.

So the answer is yes, in every sense of the word, so long as I got what I want and needed from the relationship. (Trust, love, and intimacy)

[Fox]

BUT I AM curious to see who here would consider being in a serious long term committed relationship with a TS! Post your pictures... maybe some girls on here ARE looking for someone.

As I said in past threads, I'm not looking, but I'm open to it.

[Justawannabe]

I would certainly want to date a TS, have dated two and brought both into my family, friends and community.

A lot of this thread has been just depressing to read though. The attitude, on both sides, is just terrible.

Sean

[hiwatt1000]

From the title... How many guys here would actually DATE a TS?...

Short answer... I would... I have in the past and would do it again, if I found the right person at the right moment.

...likewise. I've dated them and lived with them for quite some time. Some were just down-right fucking vampires and others were no different than dating/living with a GG...ya, I got confused as being an ATM and a urinal at times and that didn't last...some [good ones]-went on long rides on my motorcycle up the Coast or down to Baja for some off-road adventure, seeing some band play at a local club, yadda yadda yadda-just normal "couple stuff"...I just never saw the future in dating someone-transgendered-that would say, "I date only straight guys" when their whole life is one giant gay disco or the world famous, "...my hobbies include shopping and fine dining..." And to comment on the exclusivity of a relationship-the much adored, "no baby, I'm going out with friends...", just really sucks...take my $200.00 and let's call it a clinical hour, lady.

...man, it's hard...finding any partner [tg or gg]...I'm looking [again] and I'm a normal, straight dude with a normal productive adult life-do bitchen things, but I gotta go through a barrage of email exchanges and get subjected to some idiot's screening, have delightful options like hang out at some fuckin' dumb ass club checking out the girls and wonder if she's "working" or not...long and short-would I, yes...

...as for parent's and friends-ya, that gets to be kinda complicated...but if it's for thrills-don't bother sharing your adventure...if it's something that really turns the lights on in your house-be honest...folks like friends and family appreciate that...makes things real and worthwhile...some folks are ready for it, some aren't...don't subject those around you to your redundant libido's pursuits...

...I'm not the goon thinking that the BMW, house looks and cheesy, trendy threads are the trappings that chicks dig-quite contrary...those are "things" and anyone can get those, "things" and run that script...it don't last and the quality of chicks [tg or gg]out there you find with that-are just as fucking flimsy...

...phew...yes I would, yes, I'm looking...ya, it's cool...see you out there--

[speck]

I would certainly want to date a TS, have dated two and brought both into my family, friends and community.

A lot of this thread has been just depressing to read though. The attitude, on both sides, is just terrible.

Sean

You brought them into your social circle, or you presented them as transgendered into your social circle?

And without being too specific, what is your job? Self employed...ok, maybe....Coorporate, government, legal, medical, entertainment....are you sure you introduced this person as transgendered in those circles?

[clarknog]

Don't get your hopes up boys im not in the market 4 a man :P
BUT I AM curious to see who here would consider being in a serious long term committed relationship with a TS! Post your pictures... maybe some girls on here ARE looking for someone. And fot those of you who would NOT date a TS, post your reasons!

Ok
Very good question actually and love the avatar babe.
I wouldnt and here is why.
Its not realistic.
Why.
I kinda would want one that wasnt an escort and most of the good looking ones ARE or have been escorts.
Why dont I want to date an ESCORT or an ex-ESCORT?
Ill give you an analogy.
I love porn.
I really really love the women that make porn movies.
There amazing and beautiful ect.........
But the nature of my attraction to them is also what repulses me.
Explanation.
They fuck SO many guys and that for me is a turn off plus you have the disease factor which is also a turn off.
So.
Even though I love what they do and think some of them COULD POSSIBLY BE relationship material what they do is fulfill FANTASIES.
The fantasy world is not the real world.
Same thing with tranny.....even MORE so in some cases.
Why would I EVER be in a relationship with someone who has slept with TONS of people?
I just couldnt do it.......
Im not that desperate to date a tranny.
My self respect and pride would allow it.
I think there are WAY WAY WAAAAAAAAAAAY more GG's that would meet my requirements than trannies.
So even though some of your girls I just love to death I could NEVER have a relationship with or sleep with.

That just how I feel and that feeling WONT go away.
I could say more but dont want even MORE hate directed my way.

Can't direct hate toward honesty. Shouldn't, anyway.

I am in a similar boat as you. I am not going to assume all of the beautiful T-girls are escorts or porn stars, but alot are. And that would bother me. (Understatement of the year.) And I know I need beautiful or very pretty, i.e. extremely passable. Call me shallow if you must.

I tried, on a couple of occasions, to seriously date gg strippers. And, as wonderful as they were outside of work, I could not get passed what they did for a living - getting naked and giving lapdances to the horny masses. Again, call me shallow, but I just couldn't.

Are there extremely attractive T-girls out there who haven't and don't want to trick? Yes. Would I be in a serious relationship with one? Yes. But as I stated in my recent post, I can't even make it through a party without talks of cash. LOL (Damn, can I be jaded already?)

Shallow-ass, jaded-ass Clark - No Glasses

[russtafa]

i have and i will again :D

[clarknog]

i created this threat mainly because i wanted to prove a point to myself and to others. Its funny because u say tranny and relationship in the same sentence and all u hear back is ecorting, drugs and/or disease.

You hear people saying that all the hot trannies are escorts, yet you're all looking on escort sites for the girls. YOut think there arent any hot trannies who dont escort, well honey there! Their just living their lives and you guys are so wrapped in your porn world u cant find them because YOURE NOT LOOKING! And honestly the ones that ARE escorting and doein porn are only doing so because they dont wanna be 50 yrs old saving their pennies for their SRS or FFS! We are hot BECAUSE we escort!

And as far as us girls go, the ones who want relationships at least. Dont we always want the guy who DOESNT wanna be with us? We wanna take a boy and we want too be his reason for becoming a man. And lets face it, most the guys who actually want a relationship with a tranny only fool themselves into feeling that way because they are so physically attracted to us. And im sorry the ones who just wanna pump n dump are always so much hotter than the ones who wanna put a ring on our finger.

You make a great point. Granted, I made a huge generalization a second ago, but I don't deny it is fueled by years of watching T-girl porn and creating a stereotype. My experience with T-girls live and in color, is limited, i.e. borderline non-existent. Admittedly, all of my years prior to this one have been spent in the company of GGs. So who is to say the girl I was checking out in the supermarket wasn't a T-girl. Or the cutie at the club. Or on the train.

So, in retrospect, I was ill-equipped to answer this question. Ignore my previous post. All those with the right to, please carry on. (heads to a Meow thread, head hung low)

[clarknog]

Note to self: Do not quote someone early in a thread without reading everything they wrote. They might say some things later that you don't want to be connected to, but by initial association, you could be. By then, it's too late. Dammit to Hell!!!

LOL

(I obviously need some sleep)

[Coroner]

Sure, if she´s down to earth and not a damn fucking bitch like many GG´s. This is why I avoid relationships, so I´m not looking for it but if it just happens to meet a nice T-girl, I´d be open about it.

[clarknog]

what im saying is im a 9 (lets be real im not a 10 yet) looking for a 9 or an 8



Ruby, from the pic, most def a 9. Who knows, another pic might yield the other point.

Clark - No Glasses

[RubyTS]

lol thanx clark.. and i also enjoyed your stumbling on your words :lol: it was cute.

[scroller]

Don't get your hopes up boys im not in the market 4 a man :P
BUT I AM curious to see who here would consider being in a serious long term committed relationship with a TS! Post your pictures... maybe some girls on here ARE looking for someone. And fot those of you who would NOT date a TS, post your reasons!

I would DATE a TS.

But I'm done with the "serious long term committed relationship" thing.

[Quiet Reflections]

I have and would again. Tg or Gg makes no difference to me as long as shes cool with how i juggle my life ie: kid,work,freetime

[clarknog]

lol thanx clark.. and i also enjoyed your stumbling on your words :lol: it was cute.

Then stay tuned. I intend to get much cuter. LOL

[luv2playwithTgirls]

I would definitely date a ts, even get in a long term relationship with one. I mean hell, why not!

[DL_NL]

Yes, in a heartbeat. If the chemistry's OK, the rest is irrelevant.

Alas, finding the right girl appears to be a bit of a challenge.

[littlenookie]

Sure!!! It's all about personality anyway.

[RubyTS]

im bored and no one else is posting any pictures, so here are some of me and the guy i've been dating. These were all taken before my FFS

[Solitary Brother]

Awww

[Solitary Brother]

Biiiitch!
That last picture of you pulling your hair back is giving me what the fuck I want!
Get into daaaaat carta!
You look like a different person in that one mama.

[RubyTS]

lol. my smile always saved me from getting spooked

[SF_Julie]

Don't get your hopes up boys im not in the market 4 a man :P
BUT I AM curious to see who here would consider being in a serious long term committed relationship with a TS! Post your pictures... maybe some girls on here ARE looking for someone. And fot those of you who would NOT date a TS, post your reasons!

Ok
Very good question actually and love the avatar babe.
I wouldnt and here is why.
Its not realistic.
Why.
I kinda would want one that wasnt an escort and most of the good looking ones ARE or have been escorts.
Why dont I want to date an ESCORT or an ex-ESCORT?
Ill give you an analogy.
I love porn.
I really really love the women that make porn movies.
There amazing and beautiful ect.........
But the nature of my attraction to them is also what repulses me.
Explanation.
They fuck SO many guys and that for me is a turn off plus you have the disease factor which is also a turn off.
So.
Even though I love what they do and think some of them COULD POSSIBLY BE relationship material what they do is fulfill FANTASIES.
The fantasy world is not the real world.
Same thing with tranny.....even MORE so in some cases.
Why would I EVER be in a relationship with someone who has slept with TONS of people?
I just couldnt do it.......
Im not that desperate to date a tranny.
My self respect and pride would allow it.
I think there are WAY WAY WAAAAAAAAAAAY more GG's that would meet my requirements than trannies.
So even though some of your girls I just love to death I could NEVER have a relationship with or sleep with.

That just how I feel and that feeling WONT go away.
I could say more but dont want even MORE hate directed my way.

Solitary Brother,

WOW, how many more TS stereotypes will you come up with? The worst part is that you actually believe them at heart!

I think the question was if you would date a TS, right? It WAS NOT about dating a porn star!. But then again, your generalizations and perpetuation of the over-publicized stereotypes show how ignorant you are, or rather choose to be.

I am a young, passable, attractive, intelligent, funny and sweet person who happened to be born with some physical and social challenges, hence a transsexual. My best TS friend is a nurse, we are very much alike and we both have not gotten, and we don’t plan to get into "the industry".

I have the most respect for anyone's profession, as long as it does not hurt anyone mentally or physically. I have the pleasure to be friends with some girls that work the late night shift. Whether it was their only option, or their career of choice, they posses the same qualities and virtues of any other individual. WE ARE EQUAL to each other (note that YOU are also included in that WE).

Please understand that you would not make anyone a favor by going out with you, gg or tg, I feel sorry for whoever decides to take a chance on you. Needless to say, me and my friends (ggs and tgs) would never go out with someone as narrow-minded as YOU

Sincerely

[Solitary Brother]

Don't get your hopes up boys im not in the market 4 a man :P
BUT I AM curious to see who here would consider being in a serious long term committed relationship with a TS! Post your pictures... maybe some girls on here ARE looking for someone. And fot those of you who would NOT date a TS, post your reasons!

Ok
Very good question actually and love the avatar babe.
I wouldnt and here is why.
Its not realistic.
Why.
I kinda would want one that wasnt an escort and most of the good looking ones ARE or have been escorts.
Why dont I want to date an ESCORT or an ex-ESCORT?
Ill give you an analogy.
I love porn.
I really really love the women that make porn movies.
There amazing and beautiful ect.........
But the nature of my attraction to them is also what repulses me.
Explanation.
They fuck SO many guys and that for me is a turn off plus you have the disease factor which is also a turn off.
So.
Even though I love what they do and think some of them COULD POSSIBLY BE relationship material what they do is fulfill FANTASIES.
The fantasy world is not the real world.
Same thing with tranny.....even MORE so in some cases.
Why would I EVER be in a relationship with someone who has slept with TONS of people?
I just couldnt do it.......
Im not that desperate to date a tranny.
My self respect and pride would allow it.
I think there are WAY WAY WAAAAAAAAAAAY more GG's that would meet my requirements than trannies.
So even though some of your girls I just love to death I could NEVER have a relationship with or sleep with.

That just how I feel and that feeling WONT go away.
I could say more but dont want even MORE hate directed my way.

Solitary Brother,

WOW, how many more TS stereotypes will you come up with? The worst part is that you actually believe them at heart!

I think the question was if you would date a TS, right? It WAS NOT about dating a porn star!. But then again, your generalizations and perpetuation of the over-publicized stereotypes show how ignorant you are, or rather choose to be.

I am a young, passable, attractive, intelligent, funny and sweet person who happened to be born with some physical and social challenges, hence a transsexual. My best TS friend is a nurse, we are very much alike and we both have not gotten, and we don’t plan to get into "the industry".

I have the most respect for anyone's profession, as long as it does not hurt anyone mentally or physically. I have the pleasure to be friends with some girls that work the late night shift. Whether it was their only option, or their career of choice, they posses the same qualities and virtues of any other individual. WE ARE EQUAL to each other (note that YOU are also included in that WE).

Please understand that you would not make anyone a favor by going out with you, gg or tg, I feel sorry for whoever decides to take a chance on you. Needless to say, me and my friends (ggs and tgs) would never go out with someone as narrow-minded as YOU

Sincerely

Please re read what I wrote.
I did not say ALL transexuals were escorts or porn stars.
I said most of the GOOD LOOKING one were....not all most.
Either they currently are or have been.
Im trying not to stereotype.
I dont say that are bad human being because of it and i understand why they do it but I cant date someone like that.
Im sorry to hurt your feelings.

Also
In my estimation transexuals and GG almost EXCLUSIVELY go out with narrow minded guys.
What you say isnt your truth but what you do is.

[hutmandu]

I would definitely date a TS. I've been into the TS/TV scene for about 10 years. I agree with everyone who is sick and tired of hearing the same stereotypes, but I have had a tough time finding a 'sane' TS. I'm sure there are many sane TSs out there, I just haven't dated the right lady yet. I would definitely like to 'settle down' with a TS, maybe I'll find someone here.javascript:emoticon(':wink:')

[RubyTS]

solitary, no shade, are u even attracted to trannies? what would you consider your sexual orientation im curious. U seem rather "cunt" and could easily be mistaken for a butchqueen. Some butchqueens like trannies... some just look up to them. And there are hetero males who know the ts and ballroom lingo. It seems very fluent with u though. I just dont wanna jump to any conclusions. Where does your attraction lie? with men, women, or trannies?

[SF_Julie]

This was your answer in a nutshell



I wouldn’t …
Its not realistic.
most of the good looking ones ARE or have been escorts.
Im not that desperate to date a tranny.
My self respect and pride would allow it.
I think there are WAY more GG's that would meet my requirements than trannies.
I could NEVER have a relationship with or sleep with


so, it kind of does not look like a nice answer to me, regardless of your "babes, you are hot, love you to death" comments/distractions. Bottom line, it sounds to me that we are not good enough. But then again, it's just my opinion, and no, rest assure I am not hurt, don't give yourself too much credit (although that seems to be the cause of you moronic comment/posts) hahahaha, just kidding.

your line about women dating EXCLUSIVELY narrow minded guys, on the other hand, was very, very funny :D

Loves and loves broda!

[snacks35]

I would with the right gurl anytime. As long as she is honest, attractive and will treat me as good as I would treat her...

It's a go! :wink:

[Justawannabe]

Since speck asked...

At this point in my life I have a trust fund that allows me to not work outside the family. My mother is very ill and requires a lot of care, so asked me to not work and restrict my availability.

At the time I was introducing the girls into my circle and family, I worked as a bookstore manager. At one company it did indeed cost me friends, social contact as far as party life goes and maybe one job, hard to say on that one.

That didn't stop me.

I brought my partner to my dad's b-day party despite the fears of everyone throwing the party that it would negatively impact his career. I could not check with him ahead of time as it was a surprise party and involved a lot of his co-workers/employees. He was supportive and good with it, even though my mother, sister and sister in law were against it.

They thought like you did, that you put your principles aside when there might be economic consequences. My sister wouldn't even go with her lesbian partner to a work event. To me that is why we continue to be a marginalized community, we don't confront the people we work with with who we are.

Until there is some pride you can't force back the bigots...

Oh, and I introduced them as they wished to be introduced. I didn't walk them in and say 'hey, my girl here is transgendered!' I let them decide how they would reveal, or be spotted. They were clockable at some level so the issue did come up.

Sean

[RubyTS]

i got into a huge argument with my bf's mom. It was about a church issue tho. long story short, i felt it was wierd how the were re-inacting the last supper but they were wiping their chalice before they drank. So after church she asked me how i like it and i told her (cuz i never hold m,y tongue) I didn't understand how they are supposed to be giving themself to christ, and talking about how the life we live on earth is not important because it's when ewe pass that we actually begin our life and la la la.. yet they are scared of catching germs from their so called brother's and sisters. So she said "OF COURSE! You wouldn't kiss someone on the mouth who has aids would u?" and i had to at that point educate her as to the ways hiv is transmitted. It hit hard though because my mom had hiv and i could only imagine the shyt she went thru with ignorant people. i dont get aloong with her, but she has no idea that im a tranny. Ive also been to dinner with his mom and brother, and he took me to his sports club to watch him play racketball. All his friends were drooling

[keepingitreal470]

im bored and no one else is posting any pictures, so here are some of me and the guy i've been dating. These were all taken before my FFSGood job Ruby. You actually have my respect now. He's an ordinary looking guy. And probably a lot more mature than the boys ur girlfriends mess with. He doesnt look like a hood rat and doesnt look like a model. Just a guy. Theres hope for u yet Ruby. lol

[RubyTS]

lmao :P

[ARMANIXXX]

Ok
Very good question actually and love the avatar babe.
I wouldnt and here is why.
Its not realistic.
Why.
I kinda would want one that wasnt an escort and most of the good looking ones ARE or have been escorts.
Why dont I want to date an ESCORT or an ex-ESCORT?
Ill give you an analogy.
I love porn.
I really really love the women that make porn movies.
There amazing and beautiful ect.........
But the nature of my attraction to them is also what repulses me.
Explanation.
They fuck SO many guys and that for me is a turn off plus you have the disease factor which is also a turn off.
So.
Even though I love what they do and think some of them COULD POSSIBLY BE relationship material what they do is fulfill FANTASIES.
The fantasy world is not the real world.
Same thing with tranny.....even MORE so in some cases.
Why would I EVER be in a relationship with someone who has slept with TONS of people?
I just couldnt do it.......
Im not that desperate to date a tranny.
My self respect and pride would allow it.
I think there are WAY WAY WAAAAAAAAAAAY more GG's that would meet my requirements than trannies.
So even though some of your girls I just love to death I could NEVER have a relationship with or sleep with.

That just how I feel and that feeling WONT go away.
I could say more but dont want even MORE hate directed my way.


__________________________________________________ _____________


Hey Solitary,

I hear what you are saying and I don't think your point is invalid. Hooker type chicks, for the most part imo, are not great choices for dating.

What I'm not feeling is your statement that most ts chicks are hookers and escorts. You living in the Bay Area, I feel you should know better if you bothered to go out and check. Most chicks around us are in fact not hookers and escorts.....lots of the hispanic (Mexican) ones are, but there's a huge contingent of ts girls living in the Bay Area that are not working girls.

You should get out a bit.

[SXFX]

The real question is what girl would want to date us?
After all here we are, looking at naked women, saying some rather rude and dirty things and having some great fantacies involving some naked volyball.

[DL_NL]

Naah, just keep going on your preconceived ideas. No use trying to find out if you might actually be wrong.

Leaves more nice girls for the rest of us.

[menacingmethods86]

Don't get your hopes up boys im not in the market 4 a man :P
BUT I AM curious to see who here would consider being in a serious long term committed relationship with a TS! Post your pictures... maybe some girls on here ARE looking for someone. And fot those of you who would NOT date a TS, post your reasons!

Ok
Very good question actually and love the avatar babe.
I wouldnt and here is why.
Its not realistic.
Why.
I kinda would want one that wasnt an escort and most of the good looking ones ARE or have been escorts.
Why dont I want to date an ESCORT or an ex-ESCORT?
Ill give you an analogy.
I love porn.
I really really love the women that make porn movies.
There amazing and beautiful ect.........
But the nature of my attraction to them is also what repulses me.
Explanation.
They fuck SO many guys and that for me is a turn off plus you have the disease factor which is also a turn off.
So.
Even though I love what they do and think some of them COULD POSSIBLY BE relationship material what they do is fulfill FANTASIES.
The fantasy world is not the real world.
Same thing with tranny.....even MORE so in some cases.
Why would I EVER be in a relationship with someone who has slept with TONS of people?
I just couldnt do it.......
Im not that desperate to date a tranny.
My self respect and pride would allow it.
I think there are WAY WAY WAAAAAAAAAAAY more GG's that would meet my requirements than trannies.
So even though some of your girls I just love to death I could NEVER have a relationship with or sleep with.

That just how I feel and that feeling WONT go away.
I could say more but dont want even MORE hate directed my way.

I feel u, the fact that they'd slept with hundreds of thousands of men and continue doing it is disgusting.

[flabbybody]

lol. my smile always saved me from getting spooked

that's why I said don't do the veneer thing, which I got attacked for

[RubyTS]

lol. my smile always saved me from getting spooked

that's why I said don't do the veneer thing, which I got attacked for

i didnt attack u lol, did it feel that way? Im sorry honey. Forgive me if it sounded that way, never my intention. *kisses*

[flabbybody]

no need to apologize
ur right, it wasn't an attack. more like a polite lecture

which I need to get every so often

[Solitary Brother]

Ok
Very good question actually and love the avatar babe.
I wouldnt and here is why.
Its not realistic.
Why.
I kinda would want one that wasnt an escort and most of the good looking ones ARE or have been escorts.
Why dont I want to date an ESCORT or an ex-ESCORT?
Ill give you an analogy.
I love porn.
I really really love the women that make porn movies.
There amazing and beautiful ect.........
But the nature of my attraction to them is also what repulses me.
Explanation.
They fuck SO many guys and that for me is a turn off plus you have the disease factor which is also a turn off.
So.
Even though I love what they do and think some of them COULD POSSIBLY BE relationship material what they do is fulfill FANTASIES.
The fantasy world is not the real world.
Same thing with tranny.....even MORE so in some cases.
Why would I EVER be in a relationship with someone who has slept with TONS of people?
I just couldnt do it.......
Im not that desperate to date a tranny.
My self respect and pride would allow it.
I think there are WAY WAY WAAAAAAAAAAAY more GG's that would meet my requirements than trannies.
So even though some of your girls I just love to death I could NEVER have a relationship with or sleep with.

That just how I feel and that feeling WONT go away.
I could say more but dont want even MORE hate directed my way.


__________________________________________________ _____________


Hey Solitary,

I hear what you are saying and I don't think your point is invalid. Hooker type chicks, for the most part imo, are not great choices for dating.

What I'm not feeling is your statement that most ts chicks are hookers and escorts. You living in the Bay Area, I feel you should know better if you bothered to go out and check. Most chicks around us are in fact not hookers and escorts.....lots of the hispanic (Mexican) ones are, but there's a huge contingent of ts girls living in the Bay Area that are not working girls.

You should get out a bit.

Most of the hot one are escorts Im sorry.

[Solitary Brother]

solitary, no shade, are u even attracted to trannies? what would you consider your sexual orientation im curious. U seem rather "cunt" and could easily be mistaken for a butchqueen. Some butchqueens like trannies... some just look up to them. And there are hetero males who know the ts and ballroom lingo. It seems very fluent with u though. I just dont wanna jump to any conclusions. Where does your attraction lie? with men, women, or trannies?

I dont understand the question.
Who cares what I am.
I am a person WHO posts on HA.

[Legend]

solitary, no shade, are u even attracted to trannies? what would you consider your sexual orientation im curious. U seem rather "cunt" and could easily be mistaken for a butchqueen. Some butchqueens like trannies... some just look up to them. And there are hetero males who know the ts and ballroom lingo. It seems very fluent with u though. I just dont wanna jump to any conclusions. Where does your attraction lie? with men, women, or trannies?

I dont understand the question.
Who cares what I am.
I am a person WHO posts on HA.


You are a judgemental closet case.

[Azanti]

I asked one to see me, but she passed away before we got the chance to see where that went.

I am off the market now, but, would I do it again, sure.

It occurs to me, taking out the issues involving the different aspects of the adult industry, the other issues discussed here are very little from those in any relationship, gay, straight or otherwise.

A good compatiable relationship is always hard to find, no matter who or where you are, especially if we are talking potential life partners here.

[ARMANIXXX]

Most of the hot one are escorts Im sorry.



There's tons of Filipina TS's in the Bay Area.......Daly City alone has a shitload of em, let alone the rest of the Bay Area.

You'll also notice that very few of the Filipino girls escort.

That's my example for you Solitary.

[samujack]

Went out to dinner with a popular TS Girl didn't get spooked but if I did didn't really care went to a Trendy spot and because of her big tities I think they just thought she was a porn star. It's really tough when you know that they (TS Girl) is tricking most of the day I find most guys that date TS Girls LTR are flunkies and the girls support them NO NEED for me to NAME NAMES if your in the scene long enough you see them. Oh and they have to be flawless aka unspookable except by men in the scene

[Azrial]

if i were single i would be open to it for sure and I'd evaluate it in the same manner i would my past relationships with GGs.

and I'll be completely honest. coming out would be very difficult. but, given the right circumstances and the right (t)girl. if i fell in love with her. I believe I would be willing to be open

but a lot of that is on the girl, and if she requires being out. Some girls may be of the idea that I should come out to friends and family and not be ashamed of it. Another school of thought would be that if she was passable enough and preferred to be stealth I'd support that as well.

Another thought is children. At some point I want them. But do I require that they have my genes? Would a surrogate be an option? Again I think if the circumstances were right and I was in love, that would take precedence over all other decisions.

interesting questions for me considering the extremely limited exposure i've had with the transsexual community besides the internet.

[icarus2112]

I have, and I am right now dating a TS girl. She is in Vegas now and Im going there this weekend to visit. No she has not met any of my family or friends that have no idea I like TS, but a previous girl that was more passable has. But my family has only met one other previous GF, so I guess it may seem weird I dont introduce too many girls to family but everyone runs in completely different circles it seems.

[TomSelis]

I took a minute to post not because I wouldn't date a transexual, because I will and do. It took me a minute because I really wanted to think about what I was going to say besides "Yes."

I've never had a problem dating a TS or going out with one doing average day to day stuff. Maybe because, I've learned that ultimately people don't really care beyond the internal feeling of the whole world knows or is watching.

I think a lot of guys would be willing to date a TS with non-issue. I think one of the problems is that a lot of guys live in areas where there are very few transexuals. But more importantly there is no outlet for guys and girls that want to date ANYWHERE. There is no speed-dating for TS and guys that like them (and there should be).

So the problem becomes it now seems like it's only a few guys that want to date TS. There's only three ways you can meet a ts. 1) Luck up, randomly bump into one and click (that's how I met the first transexual I've ever been with) 2) The internet. Obviously, that's going to be a mixed bag, because the same internet rules apply i.e people pretending, people lying, etc 3) Go where there are TS, then you run the chance of being labeled a freak or a trick or whatever preconceived notion you get slapped with for hanging out like that.


So let me sum this up. I think there are plenty of guys and girls willing to date. But there aren't any real venues that cater to a dating crowd. There needs to be.

[PapiBear]

Amen TomSelis

I have. I would again.

The trick for me is finding a woman, t or otherwise, who is interesting. It's really boring to date a t-girl who can only talk about being a T. Or gossip about other Ts. Jeez. Okay, you're a T. Got it. Now what do you think about the Proustian Hegalian dialectics?

Oh, and can you please stop admiring my butt and look into my eyes?

[krupaman]

I met a lovely and beautiful transgendered lady about a year ago and since then we have become best friends. I know I'm more attrackted to her than she to me but we spend quite a bit of time together. She used to be a show girl for many years but now only performs on certain occasions. I'm totally happier with her on this level than I ever was with my last 5 year relationship with GG. I think we've become begginning soul mates and it's the BEST! Guys out there --Go For It If your as lucky as me you'll be more than happy.

[nohj68]

Absolutely. As a matter of fact if my current situation fails that's going to be my next option.

[BeardedOne]

Jeez...I gotta catch up on the threads in this zoo.

Just coming on to this one.

Hmm...Dating, by whatever your definition may be, is a tough subject for me. Three dentists are buying new Maybach 62's on what they've earned from the multitude of kicks in the teeth I've received from previous relationships (Pansexual), so it's all relative.

I don't think I've had any issues with dating T-gurls, but the events are so rare that I really can't measure them.

I've been out to dinner with a couple of gurls from this very forum (You know who you are, but need not 'fess up ;) ) and introduced some of same to many friends and associates of mine (Outside the T fan genre).

Personally, I don't see myself having an issue with dating a T-gurl on a long term basis, but I am not what one might consider a viable test subject in such research as I am rather hermitic and unlikely to be in =any= LTR with =any= gender. :(

If your shopping, Lady Rubes, you may need to visit some other stores. :D

[ottorocket]

::raises hand::

[bklynboy]

I do. I don't see the big issue

[bte]

I would, as long as we have things in common.

[muhmuh]

I think one of the problems is that a lot of guys live in areas where there are very few transexuals.

thats the crunch isnt it? its already nearly impossible to find a suitable gg so the odd against finding a suitable ts are astronomical

[Quad]

I would definetly. On the same criteria as I would date any girl.

[WendyY0143]

Don't get your hopes up boys im not in the market 4 a man :P
BUT I AM curious to see who here would consider being in a serious long term committed relationship with a TS! Post your pictures... maybe some girls on here ARE looking for someone. And fot those of you who would NOT date a TS, post your reasons!

If I were not already in a good marriage (my wife knows I look), I would consider not just a long term relatioship with a TS, but a lifelong commitment.

For me, the important thing (besides someone I find good to look at) is an intellectual and emotional connection.

First time I saw my Annie, I knew she was the one for me.

If things had worked out differently, I could have found the man of my life or the TS of my life.

I'm comfortable enough to admit that I could have gone along any of these paths for a life companion.

Be well - Wendall (with the bit o' Wendy inside ,-)

[busventinc]

I have had a relationship with a Trans which lasted for about a year. Basically good times with a really nice persaon, although I had to end it due to serious trust issues.

She was working as an escort on the side, which she didn't tell me in the first place. After finding out, I just couldn't continue. I wish I could have another ltr, but I can't with an escort.

and that was not the only ts woman that I have dated and just was not honest with her self nor with me and they say good men are hard to find when it is all about the looks good dudes are not on TS women's agenda's
it is a rare find

BTW I pray all is well with your mom Ruby and that the familly is doing well

[artemis2085]

Let's be honest.

A lot of film and photo stars frequent this board so of course some men will say "Why yes, I would introduce her to my parents, etc.". Bogus. There are no doubt a few good men here who know and understand not only the pleasures but the compromise it can sometimes take to be in a relationship with a TS.

I personally have been in 3 serious TS relationships in my lifetme. The trials tribulations with any relationship existed, but there certainly was an added pressure in certain situations (whether it be social or what have you) simply because of what she was. My first experience like this was with my first TS GF when I was 19 years old. I was going to realize quickly if this is what I wanted or not. I made the decision and said "you're you - that's all I ask for".

Sadly, it was her who could no longer take the social and other pressures. She deteriorated into a sea of drugs, depression and shady people. It wasn't your typical ending.

Men who date TS have to be aware that it isn't cut and dry, but it isn't all bad either. If you're comfortable within yourself and with the other person, the two of you can persevere. And THAT is quite a romantic notion...

[SarahG]

A good compatiable relationship is always hard to find, no matter who or where you are, especially if we are talking potential life partners here.

That's a pretty important observation that a lot of people seem to forget. Dating is hard for everyone, every time I have had a relationship that didn't go anywhere- it was because of stuff totally unrelated to trans stuff.

Think of the long list of things that could ruin a relationship or prevent one from forming, the guy could be annoying, rude, nothing to talk about, no common interests, maybe they're too far away and you don't want to move or have a long-distance relationship, perhaps they have a job that makes it too hard (say someone who always has to travel, be deployed, be on the road, whatever). There's almost an infinite list of things that could be a problem before it even gets to the point where someone could say, cheat on you.



Another thought is children. At some point I want them. But do I require that they have my genes? Would a surrogate be an option? Again I think if the circumstances were right and I was in love, that would take precedence over all other decisions.


Finding a surrogate might be your only option. Some states, believe FL is one of them, have state laws prohibiting trans individuals from adopting (no idea if it applies to post ops). And other states may not have a written policy about it, but will have an unwritten policy that its to be frowned upon.

If the girl is preop, then with gay marriage being the issue it is, in most cases marriage won't be an option until/if she gets srs- so if you find a way to get a kid from any means prior to marriage (prior relationship, adoption, surrogate), the kid would in the eyes of the law be yours and yours alone, not hers. Even worse, if things go bad (say you die in a car accident) she might not have a chance in hell of gaining custody, meaning the girl that helped raise the kid might only end up watching as the state takes it to put it in the abusive foster care system. And then if the biological mother had a change in heart (at any moment in relationship) and decided she wanted joint or full custody, you'd be sharing or losing the kid to her- the tgirl wouldn't have any claims to the child if there is no marriage, and would have to overcome the "sexual deviant" stereotypes in court if there was a marriage.

Adoption in the US is, for non-trans people- slanted to be biased in favor of the middle & upper classes. It is very hard for lower SEC's to pull off an adoption, the system thinks your financial situation is directly related to your quality of care and then in addition the system tends to be very socially conservative. It is hard for even middle class single individuals to adopt without getting legally married first. I can't imagine the odds if a guy & a preop tgirl wanted to give it a shot, especially if they were working class on top of that. The alternative is adopting from overseas, but that's a big business that cares about money for separate reasons.

[MrsKellyPierce]

Let's be honest.

A lot of film and photo stars frequent this board so of course some men will say "Why yes, I would introduce her to my parents, etc.". Bogus. There are no doubt a few good men here who know and understand not only the pleasures but the compromise it can sometimes take to be in a relationship with a TS.

I personally have been in 3 serious TS relationships in my lifetme. The trials tribulations with any relationship existed, but there certainly was an added pressure in certain situations (whether it be social or what have you) simply because of what she was. My first experience like this was with my first TS GF when I was 19 years old. I was going to realize quickly if this is what I wanted or not. I made the decision and said "you're you - that's all I ask for".

Sadly, it was her who could no longer take the social and other pressures. She deteriorated into a sea of drugs, depression and shady people. It wasn't your typical ending.

Men who date TS have to be aware that it isn't cut and dry, but it isn't all bad either. If you're comfortable within yourself and with the other person, the two of you can persevere. And THAT is quite a romantic notion... I like the part where you said you have to be comfortable with yourself. So true, I never date a man that has no clue who he is, I know who I am. I tell them to go experiment with someone else and get back to me.

[Alaska Guy]

I would and have, and I will in the future. Never know when I will meet the one, but it will happen. And if it doesn't oh well too! lol At least I tried.

[speck]

Let's be honest.

A lot of film and photo stars frequent this board so of course some men will say "Why yes, I would introduce her to my parents, etc.". Bogus. There are no doubt a few good men here who know and understand not only the pleasures but the compromise it can sometimes take to be in a relationship with a TS.

I personally have been in 3 serious TS relationships in my lifetme. The trials tribulations with any relationship existed, but there certainly was an added pressure in certain situations (whether it be social or what have you) simply because of what she was. My first experience like this was with my first TS GF when I was 19 years old. I was going to realize quickly if this is what I wanted or not. I made the decision and said "you're you - that's all I ask for".

Sadly, it was her who could no longer take the social and other pressures. She deteriorated into a sea of drugs, depression and shady people. It wasn't your typical ending.

Men who date TS have to be aware that it isn't cut and dry, but it isn't all bad either. If you're comfortable within yourself and with the other person, the two of you can persevere. And THAT is quite a romantic notion...

Thanks for being truthful in your post. There is some serious white knighting going on in this thread, and I believe the majority of answers from the guys here are less than honest.

[NoSay]

Probably NOT, most I have encountered which is slim to none seem like they are far from wifey material. I stick to GG's maybe a post-op if they have dealt with their issues with trust lol.

[Floyd R]

It would have to be fate for me to date a transexual woman. In all honesty, I would not date a TS woman because it would only complicate my life. There is no way I can handle dating someone that works as an escort. With close to 95% of TS women working as escorts, finding the 5% that do not escort would be highly unlikely. It's much easier sticking to GG's that live traditional lives and appear to have less issues.

[OEMEnemyNum1]

I didn't bother with the rest of the forum but my response is yes I would.

I'm not planning settling down at all unless I can get that special girl that I can bring home to my parents. I just have a feeling it wont be happening for me. So woo hoo I can be a bachelor. But seriously, I'm down for a serious relationship. I just have to know you're not crazy first.

[Remy757Photog]

The 'Carta' statement raised my eyebrows too. LOL

I've been in serious multi-year relationships with "ts" before, even some that escorted. I think the main reason they failed each time was their very "urban lifestyle" which I personally don't get into and they tend not to get into my "dark and moody Rock&Roll" lifestyle. Because of our initial physical attraction it worked but over time, I was too boring for them and the things I did like to do were too crazy. (I'm a book reading, motorcycle riding, hiking, and Rock shows) kind of guy, and the girls I invarible attract are the "hip-hop" club hoppers and drama creators, that get mad because I'd rather work than party all the time. If I do pop into a club it's to recruit new models not get wasted, so even then the business mindset is online. lol

I've been in the gay community since my 1st "ts" relationship, over 10 years now. She was in the House of Revlon, so I use to accompany her to all the various functions and events in the Mid-Atlantic area. Was even invited to join a few "Houses" but overall I found that particular aspect (Houses, Balls, etc) far too dramatic and unproductive (I'm big on Karma) for my taste so I separated myself from that stuff. I've gotten some "grief" from friends that are "tg admriers" claiming that my relationships fail cause they are "escorts" or because "they're looking for some guy to take care of them" but that was never the specific reason for any of my failed relationships. I was talking to one t-girl who escorted who couldn't put up with me doing photoshoots of models, yet I never made an issue of her escorting, so jealousy I guess can also creep in, thus making communication very critical for a relationship to work.

After a couple months of dating I introduce my "GF" be they "TG or GG" to the family. My mom is kind of a "fag hag" so she's always welcoming and understanding.

I've met a great majority of "TG's" that want that young, urban dude, that's always in the streets and getting into "shit". I'm most certainly not that dude, but that's what they use to tend to see in me in their first meeting me. You don't know how many Snoop Dogg, Katt Williams, Ludacris, references I get, especailly when I wear my hair down, and I am WAY taller (6'4") than the latter two. So I always make sure I'm being as outlandishly non hip-hop as possible, by rocking my 'weird' piercings, band shirts, and such. Im willing to give another relationship a shot (TG or GG as both have an equal chance) but we would absolutely have to have lots of things in common and understanding. My 'partner' mindset is what is most important to me, oh and a pretty face!! 8) Good luck in your relationship Ruby I hope the best for you and us all! Remember folks Positivity is Prosperity, Negativity is 360 and it comes back eventually.

[Fueled By Ramen]

I would seriously date a ts, but not for the reason that she's a ts. I would have the same expectations for dating a ts as I would dating a gg. If she were intelligent, funny, caring, and had a beautiful soul, I would date her, it wouldn't matter if she's ts or gg. Now, if the dating is only because of the sex, then those relationships never last no matter who you date. As someone posted on the first page, love is love; if the chemistry, love, and compassion for one another is there, then who you love should not matter. As for the parents thing, I would not be ashamed. It might be a little awkward at first, but I know that my parents would want me to be happy, first and foremost. Now, I'm not saying that all parents would accept it, most older folk can be very stubborn in their ways, but all parents want their children to lead happy lives. I know my parents would accept anyone I loved because they raised me with that same love.


Wait a sec...intelligent, funny, caring, beautiful soul...why, that describes...Alyssa!! So, whatta ya say, hmmm?
:wink:

lol, just kidding...well, maybe not... :lol:

[Bob's Tgirls]

It's been many years since I dated someone who wasn't a TS.

[Fueled By Ramen]

It's been many years since I dated someone who wasn't a TS.

Just another reason to envy you Bob!! You lucky SOB!! :P

[hwbs]

lol. my smile always saved me from getting spooked

that's why I said don't do the veneer thing, which I got attacked for

i didnt attack u lol, did it feel that way? Im sorry honey. Forgive me if it sounded that way, never my intention. *kisses*




damn that is a lot of ass in your avatar....wouldn't mind being stuck in between u2 :lol:

[Jane Marie]

I am ts andd would date a Ts no problem and wouldnt have any problem introducing them to friends and family. But this is aim at the men on the board. I live in alabama in a very conservative environment where being passable and stealthy is a matter of survival. I personally am attracted to common sense conservative yet open minded men. I am not attracted to their friends and family but I do want who ever I date to be as forthcoming to them as they would a GG. And actually Id prefer that their family didnt know about our sex life of the length of my genitalia. I often tell my friends and clients that the donations I am given are definitely not for sex or even my time, they are so I dont get attached personally which allows me to be a bit more discreet. I think it is only natural for a girl to want to be with a man that pleases her. Its an odd situation, the men wouldn't have been intrigued if I was a GG but they wont get close and and introduce me to friends and family for fear of being slandered by being called gay. Now if you are a man being Gay means you refuse to have sex with women. I seriously doubt any of the guys Ive seen would refuse to be with a beautiful woman and Id hope they were attracted to me for my feminine attributes rather than how big my girlcock is.
I am amused to hear how many guys make drug use the big issue as to wether theyd be with them. Well in my case I will have to take hormones everyday of my life for the rest of my life probably. Perhaps that is why I have heard that drug use is so prevalent with transwomen. I have seen alot of people lose themselves to drug use and have used drugs to comfort myself from the apathy and depression of when I had to pretend I was a boy to not be heckled, beaten up or worse. Now that I am able to live life on lifes terms as the woman I should have been I don't need to medicate from emotional pain . I rarely drink but do hit a joint if its passed to me as it helps deal with the nausea that accompanies stupid people in the south. I mention this because drug use should not be a dealbreaker for love. Though such things like the lack of honesty,respect and the ability to trust someone very much are reason to stop something in its tracks. While I say this I am sure their are those guys who have been used, abused , robbed, blackmailed, and manipulated by overemotional drama queens who are true emotional sadists. GGs and Ts women can both be evil and ruin it for funloving honest girls who want a true gentleman as a lover and partner. I am sure their are guys out there that one day would be proud of their girlfriend enough to integrate them in the rest of their lives, but this is something both persons must do. First see if he is willing to meet your friends and is willing to hang out with you and them together. Then tell him youd like his friends to hang out as well. If you cant make that happen then I think that is a dealbreaker in long term relationship. It is so refereshing to know that you are more than some booty sometimes. Hugs to all of you I hope some part of this made sense Mwah Janey

[sexyshana]

although some would and do, I think that actually dating a ts for most is part of a bigger fantasy, an extended "GFE" experience.

[PrinceVince99]

yea I would totally date a ts, the question should be would they date

[DL_NL]

I mention this because drug use should not be a dealbreaker for love.
For me it would be with a GG, why would it not be with a TS?

I appreciate the reasons you mentioned for taking drugs, but those don't belong in a relationship. I tend to think that our relationship in itself would remove the need for drugs.

Also, I appreciate the problems associated with a gender problem and those resulting from the transition itself, but those in itself could, with a little help, be dealt with. I agree with the comment that I would not date someone with serious psychological problems, and the same goes for a GG. BTDT, not doing it again because it d@mn near cost me my own mental health. A relationship should yield positive energy, not suck it up.

[Crawler]

For me it was a wonderful romance and as full of emotional, love and tender passion as any gg I've fallen in love with - no different and perhaps even more special. From the first moment she swept into the area of the roof I was at over the Vault when they had Club Third Sex, to the evenings and afternoons at her place where we dined, chatted, or made love. To the little morning meetings for brunch near 1st Avenue and 1st - and of course our evenings at Robots. She's in Italy now, happily married and I wish her the world. For me it was wonderful and for her I hope the same.

Peace

[trannybanger]

I think that my handle makes it very clear that I am all about the relationship. :lol: :lol:

But for real, nowadays, in my experience I think a relationship with anyone is difficult. With pressures coming from both sides as well as outside of a relationship, I think through my decisions well when pondering dating someone seriously. The things I think about reflect the importance of communication, trust, respect and sense of humor. After those and many other important factors, what is between her legs is really of little importance.

[jcld]

I was in a committed relationship with a TS woman for 4 years, all they way through her GRS. She dumped me about a year later for another trans gendered woman. Go figure.

[RubyTS]

ooh shyt :shock:

[JamesHunt]

I was in a committed relationship with a TS woman for 4 years, all they way through her GRS. She dumped me about a year later for another trans gendered woman. Go figure.

shit happens :lol:

[EyeCumInPiece]

I would.......but my standard for dating at this stage in the game, whether it be TS or GG, is very high. If i cant connect on a physical and mental level with the person, its not gonna happen. im definitly more open-minded to it than i was when i was younger.

[Jane Marie]

That is the same question I had why should anything relationship related be different for GG or TS or whatever their identity? And yes it is very much those positive relationships that brought me through those times when I was in my own downward spiral. Now 4 years later I am probably the most discriminating when it comes to bridging the gap of integrating the people I date into my personal life of friends and family, but it does happen for those who understand and respect my preference of polyamory at this point in my life.

[kevin2008]

i am looking for a long term relationship with a ts woman

[T-girl hound]

I have and would date a ts again, it was actually one of the best relationships i ever had

[marcelloNYC]

I have been in two relationships with transexual girls. One was somewhat long term. We were in love and ended on great terms. She moved to San fran. Last time we spoke she said she had reaasignment surgery and is getting married. The other ended with drama-major trust issues on her part.

I would again. I looked at those relationships no different than with a bio-girl/boy.

[RubyTS]

major trust issues on her part.


Thats my problem i dont trust anyone

[marcelloNYC]

Trust is hard and especially if you have had your heart broken. I have been there and decided to try and look at each relationship seperate from past ones. It sounds cliché, but I would rather have loved and lost than to have not loved at all. I wear my heart on my sleeve.

[jaycanuck]

Have in the past...but have (as stated above) run into trust issues. I would date again, but I'm pretty guarded these days.

[BeardedOne]

Trust issues. Did we all come to town on the same bus? :?

If two people enter into a relationship admitting that they don't trust each other from the start, does that cancel everything out and let them live happily ever after?

Or maybe they just end up buying lots of security cameras and band-aids. :!:

[TommyFoxtrot]

Don't get your hopes up boys im not in the market 4 a man :P
BUT I AM curious to see who here would consider being in a serious long term committed relationship with a TS! Post your pictures... maybe some girls on here ARE looking for someone. And fot those of you who would NOT date a TS, post your reasons!


Most Definitely! If she can handle a guy with a job that takes him out of the country for 4-7 months at a time, who talks about politics and current events like it's his job, isn't a particularly good dancer, can't be out at the club every week hmm what else?

[LibertyHarkness]

i would date a TS, but i am a TS as well, does that count?

[jaycanuck]

i would date a TS, but i am a TS as well, does that count?

You could date yourself. No trust problems there.

[LennyKoopa]

Before I met my ex, I nevvvvver thought I would date a ts. of course I was attracted to them but couldn't really see myself going out on dates and doing public things with a ts.

I met her, and she totally changed me and my mentality. We had a relationship, lived together and I fell in love with her. I met her family and would have introduced her to mine.

I would date a ts again but I do know that I couldn't be comfortable being with a girl like that unless she is passable.

[phobun]

But if ur looking for sugar coating, u wont find it here. Sorry.
But might she find some brown sugar?

[phobun]

Here is the problem...and this comes from a single unattached guy under 250lbs, 35 years old(and I look younger) with a full head of hair, and makes enough money to drive a gorgeous car and soon to own a house in a very expensive market(Los Angeles).....I don't get all those things without working my ass off. And in my situation(and in the situation of nearly every guy like me I suspect), there are career factors and social factors I have to be concious of.

I really would date and have a relationship with a transsexual...and even consider living together, long term commitment, marriage, etc...if the circumstances are right. But really, thats the same with GG also.

The things that really have to be present are that the person has to really present herself as a woman....in all aspects of life. My job and future earnings depend on this. If I were gay, thats not a stigma at all careerwise. But that I'm dating a "dude"(as the rumors would go), thats a real problem. Literally something that could keep me from promotions or choice jobs. Not to mention having to deal with rumors following me where ever I work. And then dealing with my friends isn't so much of an issue, but dealing with my family is. My parents are approaching 70 and its not fun or easy or anything I ever would want to deal with. I simply will never ever attempt to explain to my parents about people who are born with the wrong genetic parts. It's just not gonna happen.
You have issues.

[phobun]

If the chemistry's OK, the rest is irrelevant.
Look for a mad scientist and perhaps she'll take care of the chemistry.

[fred41]

I suppose various forms of this question are gonna be asked a lot on a site like this. Here are two of the most recent threads dealing with very similar subject matters:

http://www.hungangels.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=28295

http://www.hungangels.com/board/viewtopic.php?t=39641

[TommyFoxtrot]

Here is the problem...and this comes from a single unattached guy under 250lbs, 35 years old(and I look younger) with a full head of hair, and makes enough money to drive a gorgeous car and soon to own a house in a very expensive market(Los Angeles).....I don't get all those things without working my ass off. And in my situation(and in the situation of nearly every guy like me I suspect), there are career factors and social factors I have to be concious of.

I really would date and have a relationship with a transsexual...and even consider living together, long term commitment, marriage, etc...if the circumstances are right. But really, thats the same with GG also.

The things that really have to be present are that the person has to really present herself as a woman....in all aspects of life. My job and future earnings depend on this. If I were gay, thats not a stigma at all careerwise. But that I'm dating a "dude"(as the rumors would go), thats a real problem. Literally something that could keep me from promotions or choice jobs. Not to mention having to deal with rumors following me where ever I work. And then dealing with my friends isn't so much of an issue, but dealing with my family is. My parents are approaching 70 and its not fun or easy or anything I ever would want to deal with. I simply will never ever attempt to explain to my parents about people who are born with the wrong genetic parts. It's just not gonna happen.
You have issues.


That's pretty reasonable though. He said at the beginning of his post why it's problematic. You also have to factor in children. If you don't want to adopt you have to find a surrogate mother etc. Obviously this is long term, but at 35+ you're probably starting to look long term. I'm not even 30 and I'm looking long term.

[phobun]

In my estimation transexuals and GG almost EXCLUSIVELY go out with narrow minded guys.
Well if transsexuals and GG almost exclusively go out with narrow minded guys, perhaps there are some dudes who might be interested in an open minded guy like yourself.

[phobun]

You should get out a bit.
The last time he took that advice he had to duck from all the falling girls.

[phobun]

Most of the hot one are escorts
Totally false.

[phobun]

Absolutely. As a matter of fact if my current situation fails that's going to be my next option.
Pessimism is the lot of losers.

[phobun]

Probably NOT, most I have encountered which is slim to none seem like they are far from wifey material. I stick to GG's maybe a post-op if they have dealt with their issues with trust lol.
The people that whine about trust the most are usually the biggest girly men of all. A man can get hurt, but it shouldn't phase him. He should never betray a wound, but instead always be optimistic and generous.

A guy needs a few things to be successful in life: the brains to understand that not everything or everyone is like his last bad experience, the cojones not to fear getting hurt and the will to keep on in pursuit of what he wants. With the right attitude, most guys can find happiness, and without living in fear about trust or whatever.

[jaycanuck]

I know at least 3 people who have married tgirls here in Canada. So why isn't it possible?

[blonde_sweetheart]

Wow wheres all the guys that would date me = / I hate my lifeee. No boyfriend ever , first kiss or been on a date before . . and I'm 18 , how pathetic am I ?! =(

[jaycanuck]

Wow wheres all the guys that would date me = / I hate my lifeee. No boyfriend ever , first kiss or been on a date before . . and I'm 18 , how pathetic am I ?! =(

If you were local...in a second. :)

[blonde_sweetheart]

Wow wheres all the guys that would date me = / I hate my lifeee. No boyfriend ever , first kiss or been on a date before . . and I'm 18 , how pathetic am I ?! =(

If you were local...in a second. :)

Well thanks LoL too bad NO guy around here would even look at me twice =( I just feel like I'm missing out on so much and I really just wanna have fun with a guy! Idk what is wrong with me , I do my makeup everyday and try to look as best as I can but nothing is working! I really think surgery is the only answer to my guy problems.I just don't think I'm attractive enough for guys!And I could use big boobs too . . : Sigh : =(

[LennyKoopa]

Wow wheres all the guys that would date me = / I hate my lifeee. No boyfriend ever , first kiss or been on a date before . . and I'm 18 , how pathetic am I ?! =(

Hey, at least we are friends on Myspace

[blonde_sweetheart]

Wow wheres all the guys that would date me = / I hate my lifeee. No boyfriend ever , first kiss or been on a date before . . and I'm 18 , how pathetic am I ?! =(

Hey, at least we are friends on Myspace

Yeah true, still doesn't help me find a guy =(

[LennyKoopa]

Wow wheres all the guys that would date me = / I hate my lifeee. No boyfriend ever , first kiss or been on a date before . . and I'm 18 , how pathetic am I ?! =(

Hey, at least we are friends on Myspace

Yeah true, still doesn't help me find a guy =(

you can have meeee

[marcelloNYC]

Probably NOT, most I have encountered which is slim to none seem like they are far from wifey material. I stick to GG's maybe a post-op if they have dealt with their issues with trust lol.
The people that whine about trust the most are usually the biggest girly men of all. A man can get hurt, but it shouldn't phase him. He should never betray a wound, but instead always be optimistic and generous.

A guy needs a few things to be successful in life: the brains to understand that not everything or everyone is like his last bad experience, the cojones not to fear getting hurt and the will to keep on in pursuit of what he wants. With the right attitude, most guys can find happiness, and without living in fear about trust or whatever.

I agree 100%—that is exactly what I wrote a few posts back. :D

[The Azmun]

wow...I only just sat and read this whole thread just now...unreal. Everyone: Love is difficult at best and we all carry a lot of pain and misery given to us by the evil, the insane and the misguided. Personally I have come to believe that "trust issues" is as much of a cop-out as any other excuse...translation being, you're simply not up to the effort of conducting an adult relationship in a mutually fulfilling and respectful manner...but that's just my 2 cents worth. I think I can see what some men are talking about in the sense that if they live in Shithole, DeepSouth then they may not be interested in risking their life, your life, your/their loved ones lives for the integrity of having announced to the surrounding community that you are in what may be perceived as an alternative lifestyle; it's not worth your life. Far too many TS, TG, gays, lesbians and other definitions are murdered all the time because they showed integrity around bigotry and ignorance; for someone living in LA while this is still a possibility it is far less of one than say for example Tennessee. I am not going to claim these are facts, because I honestly don't know what the true statistics are for much of anything and out in the midwest where I live not only are there damn few transgendered people but I often think I rarely notice the ones that are there. I see a woman. If I were to be in a LTR with one, likely I would still see a woman, with a little more flexibility in bed. I was raised in a VERY liberal family so it is unlikely that if I brought a stunning beauty like Alyssa or blonde sweetheart home to meet my parents she would be met with anything other than warmth and compliments and a glass of wine.
I think a lot of the men should try to put themselves in the shoes of a TGirl when it comes to how the world has treated her; inversely, ladies, there's nothing wrong with seeing things from a guy's standpoint.
My own difficulty in relationships comes from American culture, but not in terms of orientation, in terms of expectations. Ladies if you think you know what a man "should be," then remember that you are still expressing what you would like a man to be...if he is different, it doesn't necessarily make him less of one...I notice several men here getting slightly testy and sensitive about that but being too nice to say so.
Quite simply, it takes two...I was married once and my wife seemed to think I should be independently wealthy, never work, spend thousands on her every week, never look at another woman, clean for her, massage her for hours, wait on her hand and foot...nowhere in there was there anything about my feelings...she seemed to think if she cooked me a meal occasionally it was enough to show she cared. But we live in a society where people like to say, "It's all about me." This is not what I want. But most people don't want equality; they want the upper hand. So I remain alone. It's certainly not from looks or lack of courage or intelligence...incidentally, one thing I AM fairly ignorant about is stereotypes about Tgirls others have mentioned in this thread, having met so few Tgirls. I guess that must be a good thing. Oh well, just my 2 cents worth. The guys n the girls all kiss n make up now:)

[MacShreach]

In my estimation transexuals and GG almost EXCLUSIVELY go out with narrow minded guys.
Well if transsexuals and GG almost exclusively go out with narrow minded guys, perhaps there are some dudes who might be interested in an open minded guy like yourself.

ROFLOL

The series of posts of which this is but one is the most hilarious I have read on here in years. Phobun, your wit is rapier-like.

[LilWyte]

hmmmmmmmmmmmm well i got 1 in mind

[alyssats]

owww i love dating guys especially cuties and holding hands together in public and kissing so sweet...

where are all of you guys?

[The Azmun]

we're everywhere. It's all a matter of timing, beautiful

[Ts CinthyaNY]

There are plenty guys who would date a TS, reason not to are many but if you do not give a shot than how would you know.

Ok, many of you are dragged by the stigma in society and how it could affect with family, work. But seriously there are plenty girls who are in the hunt for those brave men who are not a cock bandits and can see beyond other people can see in a TS woman.

On my part I never have problems with guys dating me, but the difficult part it's how to confront everyone about and to me it's ok since I am not interested in telling everyone I am a TS woman so they can treat me as the " TS wife, TS friend, TS gf " or so . Every TS woman have to choose the right guy that it compliments her mindset, so far I do.

But there is always a "what people may say", many men I talked to are more interested in a TS that carry herself as a normal woman and have a regular normal life. The Escort part it's the hardest to understand for many guys but you do not necessarily met a TS woman at church.

If a guys it have the means to date a TS and in the long run to have a LTR with her, he should just accept her with all the issues she have to go trough in life, and that could be a good start of a committed relationship.




i am looking for a long term relationship with a ts woman

I am sure I saw your posting in CL the other day... At least change the pics dude... btw You hot.!

Love...
Cinthya.


PS> I know some girls that would be interested in you, hard part you only requested a TOP girl..figure it out.

[slinky]

Right now there are a few TS girls I would consider dating.

[The Azmun]

I'm actually not very clear on one thing...if you have no problem paying an escort for her services, why would you have a problem being in love with an escort? I mean, if she demanded you stay pristinely faithful to her knowing how she makes money, that would be pretty one-sided, but if you had the freedom to wander where you will with the understanding that she isn't going to quit working, what's the problem as long as things are fair and equal? I guess if someone wants something completely monogamous, that's one thing, but to stigmatize an aspect of someone's lifestyle as I not-naming-names have noticed some have done in this thread while actively participating in that exact same aspect of their lifestyle seems, well, nonsensical, if I'm going to be nice about it. Maybe there's a way of looking at it that I don't understand.

[LTR_Seeker]

i would date them yes & not need sex at end of date or even bring it up

[slinky]

I'm actually not very clear on one thing...if you have no problem paying an escort for her services, why would you have a problem being in love with an escort?.

WHOA. I may be the most liberal guy out there when it comes to this, but even I don't follow that logic.

[jaybee]

Have done, hope to again!!

[LilWyte]

owww i love dating guys especially cuties and holding hands together in public and kissing so sweet...

where are all of you guys?
im gonna take my future gf to a amusement park for our first date n make out on the rides n hold hands n eat cotton candy :P

[blonde_sweetheart]

owww i love dating guys especially cuties and holding hands together in public and kissing so sweet...

where are all of you guys?
im gonna take my future gf to a amusement park for our first date n make out on the rides n hold hands n eat cotton candy :P

See I want somethin like that . . before I'm too old =/

[jaybee]

owww i love dating guys especially cuties and holding hands together in public and kissing so sweet...

where are all of you guys?
im gonna take my future gf to a amusement park for our first date n make out on the rides n hold hands n eat cotton candy :P

See I want somethin like that . . before I'm too old =/If there is any justice in the world, you will sweetheart! :)

[blonde_sweetheart]

owww i love dating guys especially cuties and holding hands together in public and kissing so sweet...

where are all of you guys?
im gonna take my future gf to a amusement park for our first date n make out on the rides n hold hands n eat cotton candy :P

See I want somethin like that . . before I'm too old =/If there is any justice in the world, you will sweetheart! :)

Not for me there isn't.Hate to sound like I'm complaining but my "love life" really needs a boost . . actually wait I don't have one and never did. I really jjust wanna know what's wrong with me so I can fix it already!

[jaybee]

owww i love dating guys especially cuties and holding hands together in public and kissing so sweet...

where are all of you guys?
im gonna take my future gf to a amusement park for our first date n make out on the rides n hold hands n eat cotton candy :P

See I want somethin like that . . before I'm too old =/If there is any justice in the world, you will sweetheart! :)

Not for me there isn't.Hate to sound like I'm complaining but my "love life" really needs a boost . . actually wait I don't have one and never did. I really jjust wanna know what's wrong with me so I can fix it already!But you're only about 18 aren't you? I wouldn't worry quite yet. :)

[blonde_sweetheart]

owww i love dating guys especially cuties and holding hands together in public and kissing so sweet...

where are all of you guys?
im gonna take my future gf to a amusement park for our first date n make out on the rides n hold hands n eat cotton candy :P

See I want somethin like that . . before I'm too old =/If there is any justice in the world, you will sweetheart! :)

Not for me there isn't.Hate to sound like I'm complaining but my "love life" really needs a boost . . actually wait I don't have one and never did. I really jjust wanna know what's wrong with me so I can fix it already!But you're only about 18 aren't you? I wouldn't worry quite yet. :)

I'd have to disagree . . only 18 ? Who doesn't have a first kiss by them honestly ? I've literally had NOTHING. Guys don't even flirt with me or hit on me .. it's so sad and depressing!! Never been asked out , had a boyfriend. That's just SAD. It really really really hurts me to be honest.

[jaybee]

"I'd have to disagree . . only 18 ? Who doesn't have a first kiss by them honestly ? I've literally had NOTHING. Guys don't even flirt with me or hit on me .. it's so sad and depressing!! Never been asked out , had a boyfriend. That's just SAD. It really really really hurts me to be honest."

Well, I can't understand the fact that no guys ask you out. That's bizarre. All I can say is that it's not due to looks, because you are a knock out! Trust me. :)

[LilWyte]

owww i love dating guys especially cuties and holding hands together in public and kissing so sweet...

where are all of you guys?
im gonna take my future gf to a amusement park for our first date n make out on the rides n hold hands n eat cotton candy :P

See I want somethin like that . . before I'm too old =/pft arent u like 16

[marcelloNYC]

I'd have to disagree . . only 18 ? Who doesn't have a first kiss by them honestly ? I've literally had NOTHING. Guys don't even flirt with me or hit on me .. it's so sad and depressing!! Never been asked out , had a boyfriend. That's just SAD. It really really really hurts me to be honest.

I agree with you. At 18 you should have had at least a kiss! On a totally superficial note—is that you in your avatar, because you are beyond cute and should be getting hit on like crazy.

[nobbieq]

I dated a ts a couple of months ago, she was going through her final transition. I'm East Indian and so was she and also Muslim like me. For me it was too hard being with her, just going out in public and stuff. Everyone could tell she was "different" but I tried to fight that and tried to be okay with it. But I really wasn't.

She was the first TS girl I dated ever asides from going out with her in public, she was also going through a lot which made it difficult for as well to be with her. I felt it was a different type of intimacy when compared to a GG, kissing a GG was definately more sensual but then a TS had the obvious package in between her legs which made it extra exciting. I wish there was more support for TS girls and that their surgeries were all free. The suicide rate is so fucking high, I feel bad for her and others and many are forced into escorting to pay off all their surgeries.

Overall, I don't think I could seriously date another TS girl, but I wouldn't mind action. Long term there's too many problems but I wanted to try it out so now I know.

[LTR_Seeker]

I would date you Ruby in heartbeat go whever youwanted just sit n talk for hours enjoy the evening

[fred41]

Overall, I don't think I could seriously date another TS girl, but I wouldn't mind action. Long term there's too many problems but I wanted to try it out so now I know.

Nice that you're honest about it (also nice that you don't mind action --you're really gonna slay the gals with that line..lol).

...just wish you didn't make it sound like you were trying out a puppy..to see if you can handle the walking chores.

[blonde_sweetheart]

No I just turned 18 in Feb. And actually I NEVER get hit on, literally never.I really can't see what else it would besides looks then.In the end it'll all work out,I plan on getting a lot of surgery on my face and I want my boobs first and foremost.Lets see what guys ignore me when I have a 36DDD =)

[LilWyte]

for all the ppl in this thread talkin bout if a girl is escorting well thats kinda irrelevant cuz that goes for any chick whether she is a ts or a gg......if the girl im datin is sleepin wit other ppl then so am i its simple lol

[igotmacedbymimi:(]

i created this threat mainly because i wanted to prove a point to myself and to others. Its funny because u say tranny and relationship in the same sentence and all u hear back is ecorting, drugs and/or disease.

You hear people saying that all the hot trannies are escorts, yet you're all looking on escort sites for the girls. YOut think there arent any hot trannies who dont escort, well honey there! Their just living their lives and you guys are so wrapped in your porn world u cant find them because YOURE NOT LOOKING! And honestly the ones that ARE escorting and doein porn are only doing so because they dont wanna be 50 yrs old saving their pennies for their SRS or FFS! We are hot BECAUSE we escort!

And as far as us girls go, the ones who want relationships at least. Dont we always want the guy who DOESNT wanna be with us? We wanna take a boy and we want too be his reason for becoming a man. And lets face it, most the guys who actually want a relationship with a tranny only fool themselves into feeling that way because they are so physically attracted to us. And im sorry the ones who just wanna pump n dump are always so much hotter than the ones who wanna put a ring on our finger. Looks like you just answered your own question. You and most tgirls think the same way. And then when the so called hott guy treats them like shit, they come here crying and asking us why they cant find true love. And they do it over and over and over. I'm glad I personally have an age requirement when dealing with tgirls. Nothing under 27. I find thats the age where they usually become a little realistic and drop the Beverly Hills 90210 shit. Then we can have a decent conversation.

i think u misunderstood me honey. what i mean is that the guys who are only interesting in playing are the types of guys PHYSICALLY that we are usually attracted to. They are usually younger, cuter etc...

The guys who actually want a relationship usually arent very attractive, and im sorry to put it that way but its the truth.

if 90210 is wanting a guy that i can be emotionally, psychologically as well as physically connected to, then i guess... hi im brenda, nice to meet u

As a guy who is the type you have described as pump n dump, i will answer your question.

To put it plain and simple look at it this way.

Guy: Tall, strong, good looking, hung, great job, ripped, great career ahead of him, wants a monogomous relationship with a girl he loves.

Tranny: decent looking, escorts, no job prospects, wants her man to stay faithful whilst she fucks repulsive clients and he must accept this.

Can you not see how there is a serious miss-match down the line?

Instead the competition that you are dealing with is.

Girl: sexy, university educated, daughter of a millionaire, owns her own property, also wants a monogomous relationship and doesnt want to cheat on her man.

If you put yourself in the position of the man that you are after, what looks more tempting to him, the tranny or the girl?

You have your answer.

[phobun]

As a guy who is the type you have described as pump n dump, i will answer your question.

To put it plain and simple look at it this way.

Guy: Tall, strong, good looking, hung, great job, ripped, great career ahead of him, wants a monogomous relationship with a girl he loves.

Tranny: decent looking, escorts, no job prospects, wants her man to stay faithful whilst she fucks repulsive clients and he must accept this.

Can you not see how there is a serious miss-match down the line?

Instead the competition that you are dealing with is.

Girl: sexy, university educated, daughter of a millionaire, owns her own property, also wants a monogomous relationship and doesnt want to cheat on her man.

If you put yourself in the position of the man that you are after, what looks more tempting to him, the tranny or the girl?

You have your answer.
Here's the same scenario from the escort's perspective, without using tranny as a synonym for escort:

Guy: Short, bald, middle-aged, thinks he's hung, makes a decent living or better, fat, unhappy with his life, dreams of a monogamous relationship with a transsexual escort.

Escort: considers herself hot but perpetually unhappy with her own looks, escorts, not interested in conventional employment at this time, no real savings (all spent on surgeries and pleasures), willing to love a hung stud but he must accept that she fucks strangers for money.

So she tells the guy, can't you not see how there is a serious mismatch down the line? Here is your competition:

Stud: Tall, strong, good looking, hung, great job, ripped, great career ahead of him, wants a monogomous relationship with a girl he loves.

She doesn't see the whole picture, who her real competition is, and thinks she has more than a fleeting chance with the stud!

[dan_drade]

My last three girlfriends were all TS's. The first one I dated for a little over 6 months. She ended up dumping me because I was such a retard with her. Dating a tgirl for the first time is kinda like dating a gg for the first time as a teenager. Guys just fuck it all up because we are retards. LOL.

The second girl I dated only lasted a little over a month. She was cool, but she lived almost 100 miles away from me and it turned out to be more of a hassle than anything else. The breakup was pretty mutual and I think id we saw each other walking down the street, we would probably have a good talk and a few laughes.

The third Girl I am still with. I have been with her for a few years now and things are good.

If I break up with my current gf or if she dumps me, I would probably end up with another TS girl.

[nobbieq]

Overall, I don't think I could seriously date another TS girl, but I wouldn't mind action. Long term there's too many problems but I wanted to try it out so now I know.

Nice that you're honest about it (also nice that you don't mind action --you're really gonna slay the gals with that line..lol).

...just wish you didn't make it sound like you were trying out a puppy..to see if you can handle the walking chores.

LOL, I didn't mean it that way. Honestly, I think she's materialistic and expected to be pampered or some bs. Like I would treat her mostly, but sometimes would expect her to go 50-50 on some costs. I remember she caused a fuss about some of that stuff. I never ever had a problem with that with a gg, but she dumped me later the next week and freely admitted that that's what she wanted. On top of all of that, we didnt't have much in common except our heritage.

She's with some older dude now, who has more moolah than me. I can see what kind of a shallow person she is. She's pretending to be all happy now, but I remember how depressed she was with her transition and even mentioned suicide to me a few times!

Yeah I'll freely admit I can't lie to a t-girl and be in a LTR with her, but any kind of short term action is fine. Hell, I was the one that forced an LTR with the last t-girl because it started out as just fucking around. We talked online for like 30 mins and she invited me over, so it's not like I was the only person wanting some ooh la la.

[alyssats]

I love dating guys makes me feel like im a real girl ;)

[LibertyHarkness]

I would happily date a Transsexual or Male or Female....As long as they had attributes that i value and were kind and fair..and treated me with respect ...

Yes you can me a lesbian if you wish :)

Libb x

[The Azmun]

I'm actually not very clear on one thing...if you have no problem paying an escort for her services, why would you have a problem being in love with an escort?.

WHOA. I may be the most liberal guy out there when it comes to this, but even I don't follow that logic.

I guess I didn't phrase the question very well...it was just about the whole fairness issue, of the way people sometimes expect monogamous devotion from their partner that they are not prepared to give. I think others clarified it for me very well, however.

[JamesHunt]

Sure. If she was a true tranny, and not a cross dressing whore out to make money, I'd have no probs with the situation 8)

[dan_drade]

No I just turned 18 in Feb. And actually I NEVER get hit on, literally never.I really can't see what else it would besides looks then.In the end it'll all work out,I plan on getting a lot of surgery on my face and I want my boobs first and foremost.Lets see what guys ignore me when I have a 36DDD =)

Shit, I cant belive that no guys ever hit on you.

[blakpadi]

Yes I would and have...

[T-girl hound]

I love dating guys makes me feel like im a real girl ;)


You dont need a guy for that, you already are :peanutbutter

[Frank-ftgw]

I have dated a few and they were great relationships. I have never had a LTR though. They all ended for the same reasons that relationship with GG's have ended (IE distance, my travel schedule/job). I have come to the conclusion however that I am not a monogamous person so I am better off dating

[blonde_sweetheart]

No I just turned 18 in Feb. And actually I NEVER get hit on, literally never.I really can't see what else it would besides looks then.In the end it'll all work out,I plan on getting a lot of surgery on my face and I want my boobs first and foremost.Lets see what guys ignore me when I have a 36DDD =)

Shit, I cant belive that no guys ever hit on you.


Nope. The most I get is "Got any cute friends?"

I.Hate.My.Life.

[LibertyHarkness]

Blonde the problem with having big boobs, I have 32DD now is that people talk to your tits not your face :( i have to click my fingers at the moonbabies to tell them my face is actually up here :)

Libb x

[Richctdude]

i would hand down:)

[alyssats]

I love dating guys makes me feel like im a real girl ;)


You dont need a guy for that, you already are :peanutbutter

your such a sweety mwahhh

[JohnnyWalkerBlackLabel]

Blonde the problem with having big boobs, I have 32DD now is that people talk to your tits not your face :( i have to click my fingers at the moonbabies to tell them my face is actually up here :)

Libb x

right, like thats a problem you cant handle

;)

[LibertyHarkness]

JW you dog, you talk to my tits all the time on chat cam :) lol xxxx come on cam later i am woneleyyyyy :)

[jay_se6]

yer id go on a date

[blonde_sweetheart]

Blonde the problem with having big boobs, I have 32DD now is that people talk to your tits not your face :( i have to click my fingers at the moonbabies to tell them my face is actually up here :)

Libb x

Lucky! I want 36DDD's

[LibertyHarkness]

Well with DDDs your gonna be needing some strong anti Turk Male weaponary :)

:) xx

[saintpatrick]

I would date a TS. I'm not sure dating has to be a "serious long term committed relationship", though.

i couldnt fit all that into the title, but yeah. Lots of guys would "date" a ts. Im interested in seeing which guys would consider being more intimate. Meeting parents, family gatherrings, social events as a couple etc.. without fear or concern of introducing her as HIS woman

The one TS i dated in the sense of we went out to movies and shows regualrly, as well as had sex: I did meet her mom and stepfather, sat down and had dinner and everything. The one awkward moment was when her stepfather sat me down and gave me the discreet little "you're dating my little transgendered daughter and I hope you act like a decent human being" speech. It was twice as awkward because he was at least ten years younger than his stepdaughter and I.

[dan_drade]

No I just turned 18 in Feb. And actually I NEVER get hit on, literally never.I really can't see what else it would besides looks then.In the end it'll all work out,I plan on getting a lot of surgery on my face and I want my boobs first and foremost.Lets see what guys ignore me when I have a 36DDD =)

Shit, I cant belive that no guys ever hit on you.


Nope. The most I get is "Got any cute friends?"

I.Hate.My.Life.

Damn,
Now I wish I was 20 years younger. LOL

[horndog]

RubyTS,

I meant to post a comment a while back, anyway, better late than never.

I was in a 2 year (1998 to 2000)relationship with a TG. She was completely passable, as far as I know. She met my friends, and family. Hell, even the "Ex" met her. Most of my buds considered me the LUCKIEST S.O.B. on the planet earth... She was (is...)super pretty, super smart, super sweet and super cool. She's a classy and discrete lady. No lie.

Ohh, and a hard cock that I would "sword-fight" with at every available opportunity...

WHY would I let someone like this slip out of my life? After two years she rightfully asked me for a "long-term" commitment.

I freaked a bit and blinked... AND broke her heart. With damage to mine also...

I have a good relationship with my GG right now. ALTHOUGH, she knows nothing of my secret (now) fantasy life.

With age one of two things happen to most folks, either you become increasingly narrow-minded, OR, you become more open-minded.

In my case I've become more open-minded. If I were to have met "Maria" now, I might do things differently.

[MrsKellyPierce]

2 percent lol

[blonde_sweetheart]

RubyTS,

I meant to post a comment a while back, anyway, better late than never.

I was in a 2 year (1998 to 2000)relationship with a TG. She was completely passable, as far as I know. She met my friends, and family. Hell, even the "Ex" met her. Most of my buds considered me the LUCKIEST S.O.B. on the planet earth... She was (is...)super pretty, super smart, super sweet and super cool. She's a classy and discrete lady. No lie.

Ohh, and a hard cock that I would "sword-fight" with at every available opportunity...

WHY would I let someone like this slip out of my life? After two years she rightfully asked me for a "long-term" commitment.

I freaked a bit and blinked... AND broke her heart. With damage to mine also...

I have a good relationship with my GG right now. ALTHOUGH, she knows nothing of my secret (now) fantasy life.

With age one of two things happen to most folks, either you become increasingly narrow-minded, OR, you become more open-minded.

In my case I've become more open-minded. If I were to have met "Maria" now, I might do things differently.


Now why can't I have that? I just don't understand.

[horndog]

Ms. KellyShore,

Quote" 2 percent lol" Unquote

Is this in response to my post? In which case, what does it mean? My HA jargon is underdeveloped... :oops:

[horndog]

blonde_sweetheart,

I just want to say that you look really cute in your pics. Realy nice.

Your still very young. Don't be in BIG rush to get those new boobs, or whatever...

I'm not professionally qualified to give any TG person advice. Hell, there's plenty of make-believe doctors and psychologists here at HA as is...:lol:

However, I am especially sympathetic because I was in a such a wonderful relationship with a terrific TG gal.

[TommyFoxtrot]

blonde_sweetheart,

I just want to say that you look really cute in your pics. Realy nice.

Your still very young. Don't be in BIG rush to get those new boobs, or whatever...

I'm not professionally qualified to give any TG person advice. Hell, there's plenty of make-believe doctors and psychologists here at HA as is...:lol:

However, I am especially sympathetic because I was in a such a wonderful relationship with a terrific TG gal.

I prefer the small ones from hormones better than the implants, unless they're really, really nice.

[BiGuy4TS]

I would and have. I know I'm about 24 pages late to the original discussion; but to answer the original question, I would/will/do.

[happychris]

I would have, had i not met my current gal first.

[salvador]

Maybe

[jaybee]

Ashley/blonde_sweetheart is absolutely breathtaking! I wish she grew up where I did! She is a knockout.

[Shining Star]

Being in a relationship often involves more than just the two people, but a merging of friends, family and other social networks from both sides.

Given how few men whom are "into" trannies are comfortable with their sexuality, even to themselves, the numbers willing to be "out and proud" about it has always been rather small. Even today with increased exposure of transpersons, and it seems an expansion of men willing to engage in sexual relations with same, the number willing to admit to God and the world, their choice for a partner still is rather small.

Aside from the outed Eddie Murphy, we have very few public admissions of men who go with trannies, but as MANY girls know, there are lots of famous, rich and or powerful men who like them. That liking however rarely extends to being seen in any sort of major public venue though.

Now there are many trans admireres who say "oh I'd be with a TS in a minute, but they are all escorts", and or "I don't wish to be involved with anyone who is or was a hoe". Well that is all well and good, but there are trannies out there who never have taken money for sex, much less anything else, and am here to tell you the dating options are not that much better either.

The only exception to the above I have found, seems to be with Asian trannies. Asian, Phillipine trans seem to have something that men are willing to go for. Am not knocking anyone else, but that is how things appear to petite moi.

The other argument men use is they would only date a trannie who is "totally passable". In short they want Megan Fox with a d**k. Well am here to tell you there is no such thing as a "totally passable" TS, all of the time. Have known and seem some of the most gorgeous girls going about their business along the streets of Manhattan, and someone, it could be a child, construction worker, teenager, Mexican delivery boy, or whatever, will clock her.

Just as expecting a hot and beautiful twenty-something year old girl to stay that way long past her 50's, transgirls and transwomen change as well. It is rather easy for some if not many to be totally passable and such when one is in one's late teens through say twenties or early thirties, but nature, time and gravity effect us all. People change as they age, and for some trannies, despite all efforts to fight nature, Mother Nature often wins, or at least puts up a good fight.

What am saying one has to accept the person for what and who they are, and not project upon them wishes and desires of what you wish them to be.

[phobun]

The other argument men use is they would only date a trannie who is "totally passable". In short they want Megan Fox with a d**k.
No, there are more attractive girls than Megan Fox, with respect to both looks and brains, and not everyone is into transsexuals with dicks.

[Shining Star]

The other argument men use is they would only date a trannie who is "totally passable". In short they want Megan Fox with a d**k.
No, there are more attractive girls than Megan Fox, with respect to both looks and brains, and not everyone is into transsexuals with dicks.Have read some of your posts regarding Miss. Fox, and one's only question is, what has she done to you?

SS

[LTR_Seeker]

I would date a TS. I'm not sure dating has to be a "serious long term committed relationship", though.Unfortunately this is how most guys see it. Transsexuals are more or less mistresses or something to do till they find someone they want to actually settle down with. I've been lucky to find guys that actually want to date me, and I knock on wood hee hee every day for that!.... Didnt know you was single Kelly?

[mcaextreme69]

I already had 2 long term relationships with 2 TGirls. I even brought one home to meet mom. Neither one worked out, too much drama, and I got screwed over, really screwed over. But, there was love, so you take the good and the bad. Would I do it again, don't know. I've avoided relationships for over 4 years, that's kind of telling. I can say one thing for sure, the girls I dated were treated as such, like ladies. Just the way it should be. My 2 Cents....time for bed.

[MacShreach]

The other argument men use is they would only date a trannie who is "totally passable". In short they want Megan Fox with a d**k.
No, there are more attractive girls than Megan Fox, with respect to both looks and brains, and not everyone is into transsexuals with dicks.Have read some of your posts regarding Miss. Fox, and one's only question is, what has she done to you?

SS



Phobun's right on both points. I have nothing against Ms Fox, and she is beautiful, but there are, self-evidently,far, far more attractive women than she. I am not sure I know who the most attractive woman on the planet is, but I do know that, easy on the eye though she may be, it's certainly not Megan Fox; indeed she doesn't come into the top rank at all.

Secondly, as Phobun says, not all men who have an interest in transwomen are looking for a dick. Far from it.

And there are many transwomen who do "pass" all the time--the reason they don't register on the radar is that they use that ability to simply vanish altogether. What is certainly true is that, in the long term, the effects of testosterone simply cannot be held at bay forever, and without at the very least a bilateral orchidectomy it will eventually catch up. There is simply no reason why a woman who has had her testes removed should masculinise any further and her subsequent physical development, given the proper hormone therapy, will be completely female. This does not undo the damage that may have been done by testosterone before her decision to remove her testes, however. The fact is that transwomen are working to a very harsh biological clock, but the trick can be pulled off and it often is. Even Lynn Conway, who has become very well known, lived in total stealth, unnoticed and certainly not outed, in a pretty public position, for nearly thirty years before it was realised that the work done by the man she was previously known as (without which you would not be looking at your computer) and the later work done by the woman she is, was in fact done by the same person--in other words, she was outed by her history, not by being clocked, and Lynn is definitely not alone.


Regarding the OP, and talking about serious romantic engagements, the kind of transwoman I personally might be interested in having such a relationship with (and I am not looking so it's hypothetical anyway) would probably not be interested in a man who had any interest in "trannies" in the first place; so I am somewhat hoist by my own petard. It happens a lot. :shrug

[Dengoza]

Just for the record, I would and I did date a ts. Great experience but there was some drama and I tried to find another over the years but ended up looking for and choosing genetic female but I still dream of the right tgirl...

[slinky]

Now there are many trans admireres who say "oh I'd be with a TS in a minute, but they are all escorts", and or "I don't wish to be involved with anyone who is or was a hoe". Well that is all well and good, but there are trannies out there who never have taken money for sex, much less anything else, and am here to tell you the dating options are not that much better either.

I think I found out tonite that I can not, as I previously thought, date a TS working girl. I realized over the past few nights that the work schedule of most TS working girls is very, very different than most GG working girls, and with my current life situation, it's just not going to be feasible to find someone who is a working girl, who I like and is independent, and has a schedule which I can offer her what she would need in a BF.

[fred41]

I think I found out tonite that I can not, as I previously thought, date a TS working girl. I realized over the past few nights that the work schedule of most TS working girls is very, very different than most GG working girls, and with my current life situation, it's just not going to be feasible to find someone who is a working girl, who I like and is independent, and has a schedule which I can offer her what she would need in a BF.

You're right about schedules.It's a real challenge..and sometimes a heartbreaker, but something positive sometimes comes out of that too. For instance (and without trying to get all faggy over it)..I learned that sometimes the time you have to spend together is far more important than previously realized.I used to get a little bitter about it (WTF..I probably still do ..lol) but I know that the time we have together is precious.. (and sometimes given to me at great personal inconvenience..which when I got over my pouting-came to realize..so that I try to cherish the moments all the more). Sometimes obstacles like that can make a relationship stronger (..or admittedly destroy it)..just gotta get over the hurdles...(be easier if I wasn't such a basketcase...lol)

[NeedBlackup]

To be honest, it's really more of a sexual fetish for me.

I like my relationships to be relatively free of drama and baggage. Tgirls, through no fault of their own, typically have a lot of it because of the extreme difficulty society gives them while they grow up and transition.

[dunkiex]

We have been dating that long. We don't live in the same city and she lives with her mother and father who are both very old and suffering mental and physical deficits. So, we get together and spend each Saturday together. It is so much fun and so special. Yup. I date a tgirl.

[Shining Star]

I think I found out tonite that I can not, as I previously thought, date a TS working girl. I realized over the past few nights that the work schedule of most TS working girls is very, very different than most GG working girls,.

Suppose that would depend upon what sort and type of "escort" one is dating.

A girl with regular clients and or an other means of income besides working (such as a 9-5) probably could run on your "schedule".

Think the problem at the moment is with the economy being so tough, girls are having to work harder and longer to make ends meet. If a girl hasn't turned a date all week, and one calls at 1AM and is on her "corner", guess what is going to happen?

Do know of gay, trannie and GG escorts that work on a schedule. Mainly either because they have school or other things to for part of the day, or in most cases to keep "traffic" in and out of their apartment restricted to certian periods of the day.

SS

[loveburst]

I would date a TS. I'm not sure dating has to be a "serious long term committed relationship", though.

i couldnt fit all that into the title, but yeah. Lots of guys would "date" a ts. Im interested in seeing which guys would consider being more intimate. Meeting parents, family gatherrings, social events as a couple etc.. without fear or concern of introducing her as HIS woman

I would definetely like to get more intimate, if the "Vibe" was correct, and the love was mutual, and it would feel good for both of us. Then there wouldn't be any reason not to get into a loving relationship with her - I Guess.